/vr/ - Retro Games

Games.

>>4125068
rpgs

Everything including what the other two consoles are good for

N64 was ace for 3D games in general, Saturn was ace for 2D games in general.
PS was a middle-ground... its strenght was actually the FMV encoder.

>>4125073
I honestly like Panzer Dragoon Saga and Paper Mario more than any RPG on Playstation.

>>4125068
>the PS1 was good for ___
Overrated dogshit like pic related.

>>4125084
you're entitled to your opinion. haven't played PDS because I'm a poorfag, what makes it better than the final fantasy games?
>>4125085
wow that's a very contrarian thing to say, here's a reply for your troubles.

>>4125081
cause if there's one thing videogames needed, it's FMVs.

having the best controller, jrpg's, fmv's

>>4125094
>fmv is a pro
seriously, kek. no wonder modern games are movies with occasional quick time events

>>4125094
>best controller
Not with that d-pad.

>>4125101
It's not even a d-pad. It's just four unconnected buttons. To me it feels terrible.

>>4125069
.

>>4125095
so all the n64 games and saturn games with video clips in them are worse off for it? ok

>>4125109
yeah actually, except maybe the ones in NiGHTS

>>4125068
RPGs
Fighting games

>>4125114
>fighting games
>ps1

>>4125113
pretty contrarian. games have featured unplayable cinematics in them since nes. fmv is just an easier and seamless way to achieve this.

>>4125118
>innuendo arrows

>>4125120
it is and always has been shit unless you like ugly old CGI with bad voice acting and terrible compression

>>4125068
PS1 is good for 3D gaming. However the Saturn is good for 2D & 3D being done at the same time, but it was hard to program for because of Quadrilateral Polygons.

>>4125129
if you enjoy the art style and the characters there's nothing ugly about dated cgi. bad voice acting compared to what? no voice acting? do you honestly think every video game character being mute would be a good thing?

>>4125068
literally everything

>>4125136
Monkey island proves that voice acting isn't necessary. Shenmue and Resident Evil 1 prove that cheap voice acting cheapens the rest of the game

>>4125139
Yeah it's a jack of all trades, it doesn't excel in anything, but it can do everything.
Well, a lot of 3D games on playstation have issues, but the same happens on Saturn.

>>4125105
>It's just four unconnected buttons

Ummmm...no

>>4125141
Wacky acting was a highlight of Resident Evil

>>4125068
2D games (a lot of which weren't sold in burgerland)

Fun 3D games

I won't go through the trouble of listing all the games, because some vr contrarian edgykiddo Nintendo ' drone will just respond with "all those games suck tho". It's literally pointless to discuss this with Nintendo ' drones.

>>4125068
>N64 - shitty, ugly games that aren't fun at all, except smash.
>Saturn - literally nothing but anime trash games for manbaby weebs.
>PS1 actual games that are good.

Faggot SEGA and Nintendo losers assblasted their lame consoles got BTFO

>>4125118
KoF98
Tekken

Saturn - virtua fighter =shit

N64 - nothing

>>4125391
Smash Bros. is the best fighting game of all time

>>4125385
>PS1
>actual games that are good

>>4125379
Why do you think that anyone who doesn't fellate Sony's system is a "nintendo' drone"?

Ape Escape is better than any platformer on N64

>>4125456
In what way? It's a fun game but control-wise I wouldn't call it better than Mario 64.
At least Ape Escape is unique with the whole monkey-chasing thing, and one of the very few PS1 games that used the analog sticks.

I remember someone saying the N64 can display 480p but when it's using Scart and ingame it's set to HIres would a tv really see it as 480p?

>>4125463
>one of the very few PS1 games that used the analog sticks.
that's fucking wrong though.
shit thread full of trolls. ps1 is a very solid system and only a fool disagrees.

Prerendered backgrounds

>>4125068
Playstation was the jack of all trades with all different kinds of developers, publishers, genres, and fun. You can count all of N64's STGs on one hand while sucking the thumb.

>>4125608
It's one of the few games that used the actual analogues, instead of just mapping the d-pad to the left stick.
Why are you so defensive? Let people have different opinions, not everyone need to like the ps1, a lot of people don't even like console games.

>>4125418
Melee at best is a fighting game, Smash on 64 is straight up a party game

>>4125652
This, Parasite eve is a prime example.

>>4125418
Nobody take this bait please.
Only a nintendo autist would actually believe this

>>4125094
>best controller

Saturn model 2 controller won that gen

>>4125391
Saturn had superior ports of all capcom and snk figters, it also had DoA

>>4125068

N64: 3D platformers, FPS, racing
Saturn: space shooters, 2D fighting games
PS1: JRPGs, 2D platformers

>>4126084
Are you saying only one of those offer decent racing options?

>>4126105
I think they're saying that's what the systems are best at. The PS1 had some really solid racers and much better sim racers thanks to GT, but the N64 hardware was better for racers in general and it has an incredible library of arcade style racers.

Shovelware.

For real, like others have said, it's a jack of all trades, master of none. My personal ranking is N64 > PS1 > Saturn.

>>4126171

agreed.

>>4126171
Saturn > N64 > Playstation X

The only true ranking.

>>4126417
49PBP

Man I dont think I'll ever not despise yet continuously be amazed by Nintendo fanboys who still engage in their little circlejerks and echo chamber discussions, they literally have zero integrity as gamers.

I'd love to know how Nintendo made total brain dead loyal nutcases out of so many people but the more I think about it these subhuman shitstains were probably weak to begin with who would've joined any cult who showed them the lowest hanging fruit first.

The N64 was a fucking garbage console, it had no games and bombed globally and you will never rewrite history. Great games are far more important and worth being recognized and celebrated far more than your continued loyalty to Nintendo and such a shit console you sad, pitiful subhuman cockroaches.

>>4125085
Dont you have a general to make?

Hmmmmmm yet the best platformers were on ps1 (Crash and Spyro)

>>4126860
Shut up Wario, you're just butthurt you didn't get a console title until the Gamecube.
You should be grateful Nintendo decided to put you on Mario Kart 64 instead of Kamek.

>>4125101
D-pads: Saturn > PS > N64

I've never liked Nintendo's cross d-pads. They feel really stiff and make my thumb ache after a while. My favourite d-pad is the one for Mega Drive and Saturn, but basically any d-pad I've used except the Xbox 360 and Master System ones are better than the Nintendo one.

>>4126883
TG16 has a pretty horrible d-pad.

>>4126886
I've never played one (or even seen one), to be honest. Looking at pictures it looks like a good d-pad, but obviously I couldn't possibly tell without using one for myself, so I'll take your word for it.

>>4125068
>the N64 was good for platformers
Collectathons are not real platformers.

>>4126883
To me it's Saturn>N64>PS

I never liked the sony d-pad, I know it's basically the same as the SNES but the segmented form of it makes it feels less comfortable.
The SNES/N64 d-pad stops feeling stiff once you give it some use. Most SNES pads are very used by now, but the N64 d-pads are still stiff because most people who only got a N64 to play games like Mario 64, OOT or Goldeneye, never really gave the d-pad any use, so it's still brand-new, 20 years later.

>>4126894
I think OP means Mystical Ninja 2.

>>4125091
When i was a kid, anime was expensive and not plentiful. anime fmv in an rpg like lunar was a big selling point. even though it was compressed, at the time i thought it looked crazy good. I even played through the ps1 ff remakes for the cgi cutscenes. you knew shit was going down or getting interesting in an RPG when the fmv started kicking in.

>>4126894

>"Collectathons"

is this buzzword still a thing?

>>4126860
>remotely criticizing sony makes you a nintendrone
fanboy mentality

>>4127116
>platformers
Go from point a to point b.
>collectathons
There's your level, have fun looking for shit.

>>4127141
it is fun though. PS1 is only good for RPGs and Racing, everything else was done better elsewhere

>>4127142
PS had more traditional platformers tho. It just that it was pretty shitty with the whole collectathon branch. It had like what, Spyro and Ape Escape?

>>4127147
you know, I gave spyro a try and it was charming, but overall it was fairly bland. even the worst rare platformer on n64 is better. that said, I only played the first one. crash bandicoot can get pretty engaging, but frankly it's terribly mediocre, especially compared to mario - and the awful 90's 'tude shit doesn't do it any favors. I get that for some people crash was their childhood but honestly it isn't very good

>>4127142

>racing
>better on ps1

For games.
PS1>Saturn>N64.
Controller.
Saturn>PS1>N64.

>>4127253
GT x2
Ridge Racer x4
Wipeout x3
CTR

Need I go on?

>>4125069
fpbp

>>4125069
Nice.

>>4127150
I prefer Spyro to Conker and Glover

>>4127150
>>4129872
>rare
Disregard glover in that context

>>4129876
wuuuut

>>4125068
Why are ps1 fags so fucking delusional?
It was an horrendous port machine for the third world. It's just a snes with fmv rpg's. That's it.

It didn't push any shit for the industry. Having cd's with such weak hardware didin't help no one just hollywood fags to turn videogames into movies.

>>4131005
b-but 6000 games

>>4125391

N64 - smash bros, killer instinct gold, rakuga kids (only europe and japan though). I prefer the fighting games on the N64 than on ps1 or saturn

>>4127705

yes, you do, cause your list is shit.

mario kart
diddy kong racing
star wars racer
bettle adventure racing
f-zero x
wipeout 64
rush x3
wave race
road rash 64
excitebike 64
snowboard kids x 2

>>4125068
A little bit of everything. If you're going to pare every console down to one standout genre, I'd say the ps1 had the market cornered on stealth games, vehicular combat games, jrpg's, survival horror, and extreme sports games (snowboarding, dirt bikes, skateboarding and bmx)

Although I regularly play my saturn and n64 and don't even own a ps1/2 these days, there's no denying that the first 2 PlayStations have some of the absolute best libraries

>>4126860
If anything I'm a Sega fanboy, but there's no denying that Mario 64, Ocarina of Time and Goldeneye are 3 of the most enduringly popular and influential games of all time. If that was it's entire library the n64 would still be a kick ass system.

Sure, the library is pretty small for a major console and gas what feels like a disproportionate amount of shovelware, but the 20 or so good games on the system are bona fide, stone cold classics.

>>4127141

>Duke Nukem 3D
Go from point a to point b.
>Deus Ex
There's your level, have fun looking for shit.

>implying one of this concepts are bad

>>4131028
>bettle adventure racing
If you want to include games of that caliber:

Dare Devil Derby 3D
Street Racer
007 Racing
Sesame Street Sports
Renegade Racers
Walt Disney World Racing
Hi-Octane
Rally Cross x2
Test Drive Off-Road x3
Test Drive x3
NASCAR x 10^12

>>4134276

>games of that caliber

Dude, do you realize bettle adventure racing is one of the best racing games ever made? No, you don't, cause you haven't even touched the damn thing. Take your shitty list and get out of here.

>>4125068
Being the best goddamn console ever created by man

Resident evil series, Tomb Raider, Caslvania, Skull Monkeys, Omega boost
Also huge list of Rpgs. I'm still finding ps1 gems even to this day.

>>4125068
Ape escape.

N64 is one of the worst consoles of all time

>>4135108
No.

>>4135046
Interesting choice for a example.

It's not a bad game, but I think it was a bit unpolished.

>>4125068
saturn was good for arcade ports. ever play xmen vs streetfighter on ps1?

>>4126460
saturn > ps1 >n64
the 64 was Nintendo's shark jumper

>the PS1 was good for ___
Everything
It had Rhythm games. You can buy a dancepad for DDR for PSX.

>Play Spider-Man on PSX
>uses FMVs
>Play Spider-Man on N64
>Had to turn FMVs into screensshots.

Been a fan of rpgs since the nintendo first launched and my path took me from nes, snes, sega cd, saturn, ps1, and ps2 after that things just seemed to go downhill.

Trying to find a game that I rented as a kid on the PS1.

>It was an RPG of sorts
>one of the first party members you meet is standing in a field and uses a scythe as a weapon.
>It also had lockpicking mechanics in it.

Does this sound familiar to anyone?

>>4136059
Sometimes this was for the better.
On Shadows of the Empire, I much prefer the sprite art on the cutscenes (remind me of classic LucasArts graphics from adventure games) rather than the ugmo CGI FMVs from the PC version.

I never played Spider-Man though so I don't know how these compare.

>>4137906
Can you narrow it down anymore? Was it turn based? was it strategy like? Can you describe the scythe wielder with more detail?

>>4127705
I likes me some CTR, but it's not better than Mario Kart or Diddy Kong Racing

>>4137917
That's the thing. I can't remember it too well, because it was an overnight rent.

I believe it was turn-based, and the scythe character kinda looked like a scarecrow, and you meet him while he's out in a field.

>>4137931
The only thing that even comes to my mind it tactics ogre.

>>4125068
Silent Hill 1
Symphony of the Night
Resident Evil 1-3

The first two are legit one of my favorite games to this day.

>>4137906
it's shadow madness
not a very well received game

>>4136059
>>4137909
This. Video cutscenes have the same problem CGI from the 90s and 2000s have. Cutting edge for its time but utterly laughable when seen just years later. Spiderman on the even stronger Dreamcast just is a mess whenever it goes into video.

Opinion. The less FMV, the better the game will age. There's a reason the SNES and 64's (very) small list of hits will just be far more relevant in the future than anything released on early 90s CD consoles, with exceptions like FFVII.

>>4137959
You're absolutely correct!
I remember that shitty cover art!

>>4137959
I'm actually really happy that I can play this again. Thank you so much anon!

Do you have snapchat so I can show you my tits as a sweet little thank you? x

>>4125391
N64 MK4 made PS1 MK4 look like dog shit. Played better too.

>>4138060
glad you're enjoying yourself, but I'm not into manboobs

>>4125675
Smash 64 is actually closer to a traditional fighting game than Melee.

>>4131260
That's because nintendo fanboys are fucking insane who build their entire value system on nostalgia and Nintendo's branding.

>Zelda 64
Runs at 20 FPS and has huge open fields of nothing to "impress" people.

>Goldeneye
Have you seen this game lately? It looks like shit, it runs like shit, it plays like shit. It's worse in every possible way than Doom or even Wolfenstein is. It's a bad game only loved because it allowed multiplayer on a console.

>>4125136
>do you honestly think every video game character being mute would be a good thing?
Yes. Text is fine, but voice acting has no place in video games.

>>4126860
>>4138318
Imagine being this mad at a video game console.

SM64 has some of the best and deepest platforming options in any video game.

>>4125068
PS1's pretty ace for racing and RPGs.
even pre-DualShock games have analog support if you get a neGcon or a compatible wheel (and since the device launched with the PS1, it's widely supported)

>>4125105
>never actually used a PS1 controller
it physically is a true d-pad in one solid piece
the dualshock 2 (and the 3, but it's less of a problem there) has issues with diagonals because they only generate a digital input when the buttons are pressed at max pressure, but the original digital PS1 controller and original DualShock do not suffer from that problem (actually, due to the design, it's too easy to hit diagonals sometimes because you'll be pressing entirely on down, rock your thumb a little to the side, and bam, accidential down+left/right)

>>4138434
>Everyone who doesn't like something must feel extreme emotions because I only work on an emotional spectrum.

>>4138465
>Everyone
No, I'm just referring to you.

>>4138465
yeah man you suck and are unstable. Look at what you're saying.

I'd say Playstations strength would be it's library. Both Saturn and N64's libraries consist of around 200 games whilst PS had almost 1000 titles to choose from.

>people are actually this vehemently hateful towards the n64
>despite it unarguably having the best games

why are they so mad?

name a better console shooter than perfect dark

name a better console platformer than sm64

name a better console party game than mk64/mp/ssb

name a better console adventure game than ocarina of time

>>4139639
>name a better console shooter than perfect dark
Halo.

all the others I agree with though.

>>4131028
>mario kart is their first listed
and into the trash it goes

>>4125602
Possibly? I know a select few games like Rayman 2 could display resolutions higher than the N64 standard if you had an expansion pack.

>>4127043
>you knew shit was going down or getting interesting in an RPG when the fmv started kicking in.

And this is why RPGs are shit.
The gameplay is the worst part of the game.

>>4139631
>people are actually this vehemently hateful towards the ps1
>despite it unarguably having the best games of its gen

why are they so mad?

>>4139631
>despite it unarguably having the best games
Lie

>>4125084
ok.....

>>4125114
>and fighting games

im a playstation fag and I suggest u watch this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_2C-jpMQmFY