/vr/ - Retro Games

>play non-mf% character
>Diablo drops a yellow shako

diablo > diablo 2

retro > not retro

How do I get 12k Hammerdin damage?

>>4113545
Would it have been unique with a certain amount of MF?

>>4113168
released in 2000
not retro

>>4115565
>released in 1992
>a retard

>>4115558
Not any more so than if it had been blue, white, or green; it checks separately for each tier. But since it is Diablo, it very likely would have been unique if he'd had MF.

Which class and build should i go for untwinked? I haven't played the game much after normal but i feel like playing it again. I don't really want to play sorc though.

Retro > Not retro

>>4118023
Skellymancer or trapsin

>>4118041
Thanks. Could you please tell me which other things i should get for single player and how to install them, i remember plugy was for the inventory space and i needed the 3d wrapper or something, right?

>>4115494
Bump.

I have 3.5k at 65th level.

>>4118023
here have a selection for each of the non-sorc classes
>Amazon
Frozen Arrow / Lightning Fury, it's like the classic javelin zon but with something against light-immunes, farms cows like a charm and is amazing against single-target (Charged Strike)
>Assassin
trapsin, as other anon said, or a hybrid of kick/trap
>Barbarian
berserker, you deal humongous magic damage that few resist, have decent phys damage, and your defenses are taken care of because you have an AoE stun, least grindy of barb specs
>paladin
hammerdin is obvious, but there's also holy shock or holy freeze paladin (or hybrid)
>druid
either wind druid or werebear, the latter I have plenty of experience with, the AoE stun + 10k+ hp total makes many encounters easy mode, werewolf is also good if you farm Ribcracker
>necro
skellymancer with maxed Corpse Explosion

Retro > Not Retro, no wonder you have to bump this 2000 hunk of shit thread.

Just dropped from chest in Hell. Siked.

>>4120607
Psyched*

>>4120621
save it for eth death in colossus sword or exile in vortex shit??

>>4119992

Are builds for trapsin from 3-4 years ago still valid? I would assume so, but I don't know patches for this game.

Does anyone still play this?

>>4121412
I recently did with the belzebub mod, really enjoyed it.(First time ever playing a diablo game as I'm just getting into the series.)

I was just playing some d2 and i got a second horadric cube drop on normal from the council, literally what the fuck?

>>4122059
it's not a bug, it's a feature

>>4122059
>>4122063
I never noticed this on normal Diablo, only on PlugY.

Also on PlugY Radament chest doesn't drop the scroll, you already have the quest started. There are some other tweaks as well I think.

>>4122107
>The game constantly checks whether the cube is still in the player's possession after it is first acquired. This can happen if an inventory mod such as PlugY is installed, as the game can't locate the cube unless it's placed on the inventory spaces normally used by the regular game. If the cube isn't found in either the inventory or in the stash, the cube can be dropped again. The Council Members in Travincal tend to drop it under these circumstances.
It's a feature.

What's the point of shrines in hell when the effects get overridden by every damn unique mob?

What's the point of variable results on high rune runewords? Just built CtA and got 5/2/2 :(

>>4123304
have better luck

>>4119715
max it and its synergies, get +skill gear and +paladin skill grand charms

hammers being physical or magical(I forget) is bullshit btw

>>4124703
Basically yes, I thought it would require something else, but I'm sitting at 12k at 80th level.

Maxed out Conc, Aim, Vigor, Hammer.

Shako, Mara, HoZ, Vipermagi, SoJ, Raven, Arachnid, Hoto, Magefist, Waterwalk, Anni, Torch.

>>4121785
Want Multires for D2 that actually works with 1.13 and Direct3D? The one on ModDB is garbage, only works on 1.12 and DirectDraw (so no 3D perspective and no colored lighting).

>>4125442
That sounds great, does it work with the Glide wrapper?

>>4125553
No but you don't need it when using MultiRes. The entire point of Glide is to make the game look a bit better despite being limited to 800x600.
With MultiRes you're no longer limited to that so you don't need Glide. D3D and Glide are also identical in functionality in terms of rendering.

>>4125563
Where do I download it?

>>4125814
I'll upload it now if you want. Was waiting on your response.

>>4125817
Ah, thanks. I thought you just had a link.

>>4125823
https://mega.nz/#!dp9inLAC!SdsMLj-VqeS0924F3XEdUBEhDy9QndpUwCxV7ZYS860

Alright here it is anon, MEGA was slower than usual.

Start with D2SE.exe, it's the D2 Mod Manager which will do it all for you, you can either play vanilla 1.13c or with Vanilla Frosting mod:https://github.com/fearedbliss/Diablo-II--Vanilla-Frosting
Basically restores a lot of functionality that Jewzzard removed in later patches, fucking over SP/Offline players.

If you want 60 FPS gameplay, you need to use Multiplayer (Other Multiplayer->TCP/IP in Main Menu, it's basically same as SP anyway) since Blizzard is clinically retarded and hardcoded SP with 25 FPS lock.

You change your resolution ingame once you actually create your character.
Just remember you MUST use DirectDraw or Direct3D renderer, MultiRes won't work with Glide and will cause your game to crash upon loading character.

There's also AutoHotKey script in a folder that allows you to move with WSAD buttons in addition to mouse if you wanna use that.
Anyway I'm going sleep so if you have any questions I'll answer tomorrow.

>>4125905
Thanks! I'll give it a try once it's done.

>>4124742
targets resistance, the cast rate break point for your class, and if what your casting has multi-hit capabilities.

so if you wanna track down +skillers just keep in mind the sheet damage might not be as big of increase as you might expect.

>>4126254
where is this spreadsheet

also why doesn't it static

>>4126254
>Most bosses
>forgot Meph has more defenses than other brothers

>>4126283
factoring in static and teleporting away would be a more real world comparison, but I made the spreadsheet to clear up what builds might be like numbers-wise.

>>4121785
>recently did with the belzebub mod,
Same. First time D1 did it with belzebub mod last year. Was the best.

beelzebub
but what about, TCHERNOBOG

>>4126760
Not a source port ergo shit since it's still stuck with D1 original resolution and retarded quest mechanics (you can't get all of them in 1 playthrough, pure RNG).
Honestly Beelzebub is pinnacle of D1 but purists will disagree with me on that.

>>4125945
So, how did it go?

>>4126845
>since it's still stuck with D1 original resolution
Is this real life?

>>4126850
Oh wait it's the Beelzebub's successor with MP support, I'm a faggot. I confused it with some other D1 mod that's basically MedianXL equivalent.

>>4126845
Still downloading, the transfer limit on MEGA tripped and gave me a huge waiting time. Still 1 hour 27 minutes to wait.

>>4126915
>not resetting your IP

>>4126916
I have a static IP.

>>4126917
>2017
>having static IP

>>4126918
>2017
>he doesn't know how monopolies work

>>4126920
>living in a 3rd world shithole like Murrika that allows monopoly

>>4126921
No, I just live in the boonies and there's only one ISP here.

>>4126923
I live in the suburbs and even here there's 3 ISPs, 2 of which offer 100+ MBit connections with dynamic IP and unlimited traffic relatively cheap.

>>4126924
>suburbs
My closest neighbor is about 6km away.

>>4126926
What the fuck are you? A treehugger?

>>4126929
A farmer. You don't think the supermarket makes your food on some underground factory, do you?

>>4126931
>implying I buy anything in a supermarket where everything is GMO trash infested with chemicals
>implying I don't buy directly from local farmers I personally know

>>4126934
Then why is the concept of a farmer so alien to you?

>>4126935
Mostly because where I live even farmers get 20mbit connections minimum, with dynamic IP which is basically standard issue here. It's static IP that you need to fork out extra for.

>>4126936
And where do you live?

>>4126938
United Kingdom of Pooland.

>>4126945
GMOs are outlawed in Poland.

>>4126946
Not imported ones. That one trade deal with Canada signed by EU sometime ago allows imported GMO trash to be sold here.
I wasn't buying imported food in general on principle but now this goes double for me.

Anyway enough chitchat, back to Diabolo.
1080p is overkill so I don't recommend using that. It also makes looting stuff a pain the ass due to how small everything becomes.

>>4126957
Here's a much more optimal 1360x768, alternatively you can go with 1280x720

>>4126961
720p

>>4126965
And finally original 800x600, this is what D2 looks like without resolution mod.

>>4126971
Yeah, I remember having those same issues with the old patch. I usually limited myself to 720p because the enemies would stop reacting some distance away from the standard 800x600 viewfield.

>>4126976
From my experience they still aggro just fine at 1360x768. Blizzard is full of shit by saying resolutions higher than 800x600 aren't possible. It only goes to hell at substantially higher resolutions like 1080p but for me the lack of ranged aggro isn't even the core problem at that res, it's everything including loot being ant-sized.
D2 just needs high resolution support with 2x scaling like the Widescreen mods for Fallout 1 and 2.
That way you can get high resolutions but also proper scaling so shit doesn't become ant-sized and aggro stays intact.

>>4126982
Blizzard's support for older games is utter garbage, yeah. Warcraft 3 still doesn't have widescreen support, for one. It just pretends it does and stretches everything out. I've lost count of the number of people playing in 16:9 resolution thinking it was normal.
I don't mind resolution restrictions too much, I have a spare CRT exactly for that, the more the usually better.

>>4126991
WC3's stretching is indeed a problem, but even bigger issue is the fact that the camera in game is stupidly fucking low.
I literally had to use some multimaphack to increase the FOV because that original FOV designed for 800x600 resolution is sickness inducing.

>>4126991
WC3 doesn't have any cutscenes if you play in any newer version of Windows.

>>4127074
Win7 x64 here, poster above you in fact, and all cutscenes in WC3 worked fine for me.

>>4113168
http://annihilus.net/content.php
good private server.. 1280x720
new content, new events. take a look. :)
blizzlike xp rates

>>4127101
KYS shill

>>4127101
>Blizzlike
>Custom currency
>Gold being main currency
>You can only get Gold through Cash Shop on website
See >>4127109

>>4127114
gold is not important. just to buy cosmetics. like dyes

>>4127176
>CASH SHOP

Necro gonna necro.

>>4128172
I agree.

>>4128204
Why play the buggy shitfest that is Tchernobog instead of Beelzebub?
Tchernobog is literally just a super pre-alpha Multiplayer-enabled port of Beelzebub.
Bub is far more polished and stable for now.

>>4128208
Tchernobog 0.1.1 has some balance changes that I prefer, also muh multiplayer

>>4128210
Enjoy no quests and bug shitfest galore. Seriously fucking why

>>4128214
You tell me.

>>4128223
You do realize those are changes from previous Tchernobog version and not from Beelzebub right?
You fucking cockmuncher.

>>4128228
someone likes game
oh no
OH NO

>>4128228

Jesus Christ, please try a bit harder!

Is Enigma really that crucial to a Hammerdin? What's the real benefit of it, MF or Teleport or FRW?

I manage a 13k Hammerdin with Vipermagi, and have runes for Enigma, but thinking about Chains of Honor as well.

So, I just started some sin, looks like magic dmg traps don't increase dmg with melee stats, should I use only the 3 traps base don weapon dmg?

This bitch gameplay is weird as fuck

Also, I remember 15 years ago that I needed to finish the game to get a fucking yellow and I got two in 15 minutes, was the drop increased with patches?

>>4129593
>Also, I remember 15 years ago that I needed to finish the game to get a fucking yellow and I got two in 15 minutes, was the drop increased with patches?
Result of /players 8 command.
Vanilla Frosting works so that mobs have loot and exp like on /players 8 but their HP is like on /players 1

>>4129593
1.13 superupped drop rates for runes at least, now you can actually see high runes drop.

>>4129595
Oh, thats nice, I guess since most gear was outdated so fast having only blues was retarded

>>4129662
Yeah just don't use the players command when playing VF, since it basically altered values for /players 1 to be like loot/exp of players 8, but if you were to type /players 8 mobs will get their retarded bullet sponge HPs.

Are there any private servers or something?

>>4130701
let us know if you find out

>>4129467
Bump

What do?

>>4131332
cry?

>>4130701
Yes, but mostly for mods.

>>4131373
Pride or wait for second one to make Zod?

>>4125905
Multires isn't working. Isn't it supposed to be a different .exe?

>>4131606
All ok, I'm retarded. Had to run everything in Win98 compatibility in Win10, sorry.

>>4131708
Use WinXP SP2 or SP3 compatibility, and you're supposed to run through D2SE.

>>4125905
getting the c00005 in windows 10 even with -w option

wat do?

>>4131796
nvm
figured out that after the vid test the game gives you 3 options and if you dont chose dd it wont work

>>4131826
D3D may work but see >>4131730 and mind you it doesn't work for everyone, you can try rebooting PC (i swear it helps) after choosing D3D. As in pick D3D, try launching, let it fail, open VidTest, pick D3D in vidtest, reboot then try starting game in D3D. It's tricky cause D3D was last minute implementation in D2 shortly before release so it's hacky as fuck and has poor compatibility on modern OS.

>>4126852
You're probably thinking of this schizophrenic pile of garbage

>>4132730
let's just throw in all the sprites we can find lmao who cares if it looks like ass

do necro wands that give poison damage apply the poison to spells cast with the wand?
also would poison on an assassin weapon apply to kicks?

>>4132820
>do necro wands that give poison damage apply the poison to spells cast with the wand?
no
>also would poison on an assassin weapon apply to kicks?
yes

>>4125905
So I was trying to change resolution, and now I'm stuck on a black screen but I still here the game playing (I can hear myself moving around).

This leaves me to conclude that I chose a resolution that leaves me blind and unable to change it to any other resolution.

Is there any other way to change the resolution other than ingame?

what pally build should I roll for a 3 person party if I dont want to do hammerdin

>>4133246
fist of heavens only

>>4133246

zealot

>>4133232
>Is there any other way to change the resolution other than ingame?
No, but you can delete the registry entry for D2, run VidTest and then run through Diablo II.exe and switch resolution there to 640x480.
Then you can go back to D2SE and it will boot up in 480p

>>4133246
I ditto the Zealot option.

>>4133246
Conviction zealer

I just finished my trapsin normal run, it was pretty fucking boring

I want to just edit the character and start nightmare on another class, which editors don't fuck the vanilla frosting + plugi characters?

What should I play for hell fun?

Not Retro.

>>4134625
lol read the rules newfriend

>>4134635
According to the rules, PC games released after 1999 are not retro.

>>4134642
>This board is for the discussion of classic, or "retro" games. Retro gaming means consoles, computer games, arcade games (including pinball) and any other forms of video games on platforms launched in 1999 and earlier. With the release of the 8th generation of consoles, the Sega Dreamcast will now be considered "retro", though the remainder of the sixth generation (Xbox, PS2, GameCube) will not.

Show me the part where you think it specifies that PC games are different from console games.

>>4134649
So the PC cutoff is entirely arbitrary then because the "personal computing platform" came out before 1999. We should be able to talk about Minecraft here I guess since it runs on Java and Java came out in 1995.

>>4134653
The rules are stupid, but I didn't make them. A game that runs in Windows 95 is perfectly acceptable under them.

If you don't like Diablo, just ignore the thread but shitpost trolling about the rules is weak.

FUCK THE JANNY
FUCK THE JANNY
FUCK THE JANNY

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>4134659
Just allow sixth gen already. That would solve all the shitpost trolling.

>>4125905
To the anon that posted this mega link.
Vanilla Frosting Doesn't seem to work.
I reached level 22 after killing Duriel.
And mobs dont drop that much loot, same as if it was still /players 1
Same about the EXP, feels like it's /players 1
When I switched to /players 8 I suddenly started leveling much faster and mobs started to drop more loot.
Is your Vanilla Frosting fucked?

>>4134649
>computer games[...]launched in 1999 and earlier
pretty simple

>>4134717
>>4125905
I just checked with fresh copy of 1.14d and Vanilla Frosting
Your version doesnt seem to work properly, exp and loot drop is still as if it was /players 1

>>4134717
>I reached level 22 after killing Duriel.
I just killed diablo and I'm lvl 25

>>4134659
>A game that runs in Windows 95 is perfectly acceptable under them
Not if it's came after 99, no, it isn't. Console games are specified separately in the rules.

>consoles launched in 1999 and earlier
Only includes the consoles.
>computer games launched in 1999 and earlier
Only includes PC games
>arcade games (including pinball) launched in 1999 and earlier
Only includes arcade games
>any other forms of video games on platforms launched in 1999 and earlier
Console games would be included in here, but are only specified for platforms launched in 1999 and older, not the games themselves like the previously mentioned PC and arcade. So, yes, even your example of Pier Solar is applicable by the board rules, as is a discussion of the first Diablo, but not of Diablo 2.

>shitpost trolling
There's no shitposting going on here. If you followed the rules, there wouldn't be a problem.

>>4134713
nope, we'd get a whole new batch of shitposts, which i'm sure is exactly what you want

>>4134752
And I'm using the pack from said anon*
Now that I think about it, everything after first act was shit drops

>>4134754
You wouldn't know unless you tried. If /vr/ gets worse after allowing sixth gen, we can just revert the rules back to how they are now.

>>4134759
please feel free to tell hiro your truly genius suggestion, then

>>4134759
>we can just revert the rules back
Yeah, that won't happen or work and will just push shitposting even harder.

The rules do need a year boost, though, IMO.

>>4134752
>>4134756
I just checked it on 1.14d without plugy.
What mod only does is giving you cube, letting you have more diablo 2 instances running at once, etc.
But the EXP and LOOT drop is same as with /players 1
Anon simply fucked up repacking of the mod, good intentions tho.
I'm downloading actual version, I will post results later.

>>4134774
>Anon simply fucked up repacking of the mod
If you manage to make it work with plugy+HD upload it please

>>4134783
Yeah, IF is a good word here.
But mod works as it should on 1.14d.

>>4134787
HD and plugy don't work over 1.13, you shouls aim for that version

>>4134790
I know.
I'm just saying it works as intended but anon's version doesn't.

>>4134790
What version should I make it for? 1.13c or 1.13d?

>>4134820
c I guess
I can confirm its not working, just downloaded >>4125905 killed a red fag and got just 18 exp (normal exp), killed some packs and loot is just vanilla

>>4134753
>Console games are specified separately in the rules.

No they aren't. Stop shitting up threads with this.

>>4134872
>No they aren't.
They literally are if you read my post, but okay, denial works, too.

>>4134878
Your post is just your misinterpretation of the rules. You're literally only in this thread to shitpost. If you really have a problem, report and hide. Trolling doesn;t help anything.

>>4134834
>>4134820
I just noticed I cannot do 1.13c because mod autor never made one for that version.

>>4134904
1.12 is fine too

>>4134901
>Your post is just your misinterpretation of the rules
I was literally just laying out the rules exactly as they're said. Consoles, PC games, and Arcade games are specifically defined. Everything else is defined under the last catchall term, including console games.

>You're literally only in this thread to shitpost.
No, I'm here to explain how the rules work because there's an increasing number of people making threads about content not relevant to this board's rules and then following up it with lame justifications. If you don't like it, complain to Hiro and maybe things will change. Otherwise, fuck off.

>Report
because that works so well half the time, especially when the mods and janitors are explicitly ignoring this thread despite them obviously being in here and the game already being stated as off-topic.

>>4134909
There is only 1.09/1.13d/1.14d
So no multires
well fuck

>>4134901
>Your post is just your misinterpretation of the rules
I was literally just laying out the rules exactly as they're said. Consoles, PC games, and Arcade games are specifically defined. Everything else is defined under the last catchall term, including console games.

>You're literally only in this thread to shitpost.
No, I'm here to explain how the rules work because there's an increasing number of people making threads about content not relevant to this board's rules and then following up it with lame justifications. If you don't like it, complain to Hiro and maybe things will change. Otherwise, fuck off.

>Report
because that works so well half the time, especially when the mods and janitors are explicitly ignoring this thread despite them obviously being in here and the game already being stated as off-topic. Also as evidence by my post being erased.

>>4134968
Fuck, I'm too used to 720p now
I wonder if we can get just vanilla+multi without plugy

Glad to see /vr/'s moderation staff is as willfully incompetent as most of this website's.

You know what? Fuck it. Who cares about the rules. PC was before 99? Let's talk about Diablo 3. It's on PC. That means it's good to go.

>>4134981
We was having a nice thread before you came here to austistrage about diablo release date

>>4134984
I wouldn't have raged if the thread was deleted almost a week ago.

oh whoops guess this post is going to be deleted too

>the /utg/ autist is back
what a shame

>>4135028
>/utg/
What the hell is that?

>>4135034
a cancerous place

>>4128172
Hey what'st he name of your high res mod? I can't find one that I like.

>>4129467
If you do runs saving time is an important factor. Teleport lets you skip walls. FRW is useful in town. Paladin also has good fcr frames.
Additional MF and dmg reduce are insane.
That would be already great but you also get a big strength boost pts you can put in vita or dex for maxblock.
This item is way too op.

>>4135047
Read the thread or something

>>4125905
>>4134979
>>4134968
https://mega.nz/#!d15SBYKQ!GxT4upmhNQ4nmTsxNAa4NJqDBsRyzG-8JR1Ga5VeAw4

Here is Vanilla Frosting+PlugY but no HD since it's 1.13d.
I will try to fuck around and maybe get 1.13c to work, somehow.
Screenshot for a proof.

>>4135730
Main issue is the lack of HD mod, plugy do almost the same as vanilla thing anyways

>>4135751
What about respec and shared/bigger stash.
Vanilla Frosting doesn't do that.
But yeah I can't get 1.13c to work.
So it's no HD.

>>4134717
>>4134751
I think it's because the Vanilla Frosting players thing doesn't work in MP, but the mod itself most definitely works since you start out with the Cube, the cows resistances are like in 1.09 etc.

>>4115494
Items and skill GCs.

>>4136010
To further elaborate, Vanilla Frosting does this shit:

D2Client.dll:
- Fixes the infinite loop CPU bug that caused the CPU to stay at 25%~+ and 50%~+ CPU usage in single player
and multi-player games respectively.

D2Game.dll:
- Ability to open Cow Level even if King was killed
- Experience beyond two screens
- Monster HP, Experience, and Monster/Chest Item Drop Amounts are the same between /players 1 and /players 8

D2gfx.dll:
- Multiple Diablo II Windows

CharStats.txt - Horadric Cube at Character Creation
CubeMain.txt - New Cube Recipes
Experience.txt - Experience Table (Experience Ratio doesn't decrease after 70)
Inventory.txt - Stash & Cube Size
LvlMaze.txt - Room Sizes
Misc.txt - Lysander sells TP/ID Books & Scrolls
MonStats.txt - Cow Resistances
Runes.txt - Runewords
TreasureClassEx.txt:
- Improved rune drop rates (including monsters & chests)
- Countess can drop up to Zod

Basically anything that comes from the .dll files doesn't work in my package because the .dlls won't work with multires. CPU fixes, Opening cow level unlimited times and multiple D2 windows are already built into PlugY itself, so the only things you lose is the players thing and exp beyond 2 screens.
Sucks but you need to blame whoever made Multires for not updating it to 1.13d

>>4118052
Just get d2se. Mrllamasc has a install guide video on YouTube, just watch that, takes like 10 minutes. D2se acts as a loading program, and has plugy built in. You can also choose which patch you want to play on.

>>4136035
If he wants to have Multires he'll be fucked regardless, D2SE or no. Just not doable to get it to work with Glide or any version other than 1.12a (for older multires) and 1.13c for the newer one.

>>4136031
And the exp/loot from 8player

Shit sucks

Anyways I just wanted to do a "story mode" play so meh

Can diablo 3 even be played offline?

>>4136089
>Can diablo 3 even be played offline?
Not on PC. Have fun gettting it on consoles :^)

>>4136090
Meh, and there is any HD thing of D1?
I played it in a fucking pentium 2 with a monochrome broken monitor

>>4136097
Beelzebub, google it.
Basically reverse engineered source port of D1 with a lot of improvements and changes, restoring all the cut content, making all quests accesible on one playthrough, adding some D2 features, adding Necromancer and whatnot. It's great.

>>4136089
I found these:
http://d2mods.info/forum/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=63578
http://d2mods.info/forum/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=62595
Gonna read through it and see if I can replicate the process he used for 1.13c dlls

>>4136124
An update on this, this shit is all in assembly and I spent the last hour trying to comprehend this insanity but this is way beyond my level.
Contacted Vanilla Frosting author to see if maybe he'll be willing to make 1.13c compatible version since that would alleviate our problems.

>>4136247
I think the code is somewhere but yeah, having that would let us with a "perfect" version for the future

>>4136372
Welp, the guy responded with basically "I abandoned the mod but all documentation is there bro lol just do it urself xD".
Real helpful when it's all aimed at people that understand and know how to work Assembly and most trained programmers on this planet don't know it let alone someone like me.
Fucking hell.

>>4136010
>>4136031
It doesn't work tho.
Anon version doesn't work.
I already tested it
I got to level 22 at the end of Act II
but with fresh version on 1.13d from>>4135730
It does work, I got to level 27 at the end of act II

wait so i've been playing this anons version >>4125905 all this time with /p8 and having benefited literally nothing from it? i played by hosting a local game. i did get a lot of uniques and reached 35 by end of act 4 and no farming

>>4136850
Did you even read anon? Everything except the players Exp/Loot functionality works.
Learn you read you fucking inbred dipshit.

>>4136859
No anon, that's not it.
The players command works like default.
So Players 1 = you get regular exp, monster hp, damage and drops.
Players 8 gives you vastly increased values for all of those.
Vanilla Frosting modifies one of the game's .dll files so that you get the benefits of Players 8 (better Exp and Loot) but without the disadvantages (increased monster HP and damage).
With the premade package you don't get this one particular functionality since it doesn't include the .dll as it doesn't work with Multires.
It does however include the modified Patch MPQ archive which gives you all this:
CharStats.txt - Horadric Cube at Character Creation
CubeMain.txt - New Cube Recipes
Experience.txt - Experience Table (Experience Ratio doesn't decrease after 70)
Inventory.txt - Stash & Cube Size
LvlMaze.txt - Room Sizes
Misc.txt - Lysander sells TP/ID Books & Scrolls
MonStats.txt - Cow Resistances
Runes.txt - Runewords
TreasureClassEx.txt:
- Improved rune drop rates (including monsters & chests)
- Countess can drop up to Zod

>>4136870
is this a yes or no

>>4136892
How about you learn to FUCKING READ YOU INBRED COCKMUNCHER SHITSTAIN?

>>4136895
what i got from reading it a few times is either
/players 8 works like vanilla
or
/players 8 doesn't do anything at all
which one is it

>>4136904
It works like vanilla, you clearly lack reading comprehension.

>>4136907
i guess
also i had four uniques drop from a chest in act 3 normal, what the heck

>>4136916
Perfectly normal if you're using Players 8 anon, you get same kind of loot as if there were 8 people playing.

>>4136920
should i try to grind that chest or was this super rare? it was in the great marsh.

runes

>>4136921
Spamming Andariel, Mephisto, Diablo and Baal are the best ways to get loot.

>>4136925
i tried but it's pretty slow in normal with a skeleton army and no teleporting. this chest might be easier to farm but only if it continues to drop this mad amount of uniques

my skeletal army grows

>>4136927
Chests are random, they don't have fixed loot tables like bosses which is why you can't rely on them.

>>4136939
ah alright.
also i had this beast drop when i just started out some day ago
don't think anything will replace it ever with how terrible my luck has been ever since i started playing this game over a decade ago

>>4136949
Hold my beer.

>>4136862
No need to be such a rude /v/ tier faggot.

>>4136958
how? how do people ever get this shit? is my luck just terrible? i've never had a good unique drop, ever. over ten years of casually playing, getting two characters to 80+ once a year, thousands of hours... only memorable item i've had drop was a nagelring out of a fucking urn i accidentally kicked

So the working HD with vanilla frosting will never werk?

I'm still using lvl 16 weapons because no loots

>>4136972
They run the same places over and over and over for days, bascially.

>>4136970
I just get angry when I write a wall of text to explain and people can't even read it properly.
I honestly don't know how to dumb down my explanations any more.

>>4136980
It does work, just not completely. You get ALL of VF's features working in that package above EXCEPT the Players 8 EXP/Loot benefits with Players 1 HP values.

Feel free to find someone who knows Assembly since the documentation is all there and I'm sure someone who knows Assembly can whip out 1.13c compatible .dll within less than 30 minutes.

>>4136972
Tons and tons of grinding the same bosses anon, that's what D2 endgame always ever and forever was.
D3 has no good and interesting loot worth grinding though since it's on a constant powercreep with palette swaps and asset flips so it's boring as shit not to mention the awful procedurally generated infinite dungeon they call endgame.

>>4136980
This version>>4125905
All the shit this anon said works>>4136870
But no EXP/LOOT
This version>>4135730
Everything works but no HD since mod author never made a version for 1.13c

>>4136993
Oh yeah, I forgot some anon made a different package that's same as mine minus Multires but with the .dll files.

Basically you gotta pick between having high resolution support but vanilla /players command functionality or not having high resolutions but having 8 players worth of exp and loot in single with no HP bullet sponges.

>>4136993
Good god D2 looks like utter shit without high res these days. Not even Glide can save it really.
I honestly can't imagine playing without Multires.

>>4136996
I'm playing the one with no HD.
I can live without it.

>>4136993
loot and works if you do /players 8 and it's the better way to play anyway

>>4137002
Apinians.

>>4137002
Anon, you don't seem to understand what Vanilla Frosting does.
The /players command is a stock game command and it ALWAYS works.
Thing is, that doing /players 8 in umodified game results in not only Drop and Exp being better, but also Monsters becoming Bullet Sponges due to having 8 times more HP (actual value is different but let's say 8 for the sake of simplicity).
Vanilla Frosting makes it so that you get the benefits without monsters becoming bullet sponges among many other improvements, but this one particular feature (players 8 loot/exp benefits without the bullet sponge disadvantage) doesn't work in the package with HD resolution support. All the other features do.

>>4137008
yeah I know that but somebody said it's broken or something and I wanted enemies to be bullet sponges regardless I like the grind

>>4136949
plz make hero editor item file

>>4137010
That somebody said wrong as we already established.

>>4137012
Wouldn't you rather >>4136958 if you're gonna cheat?

>>4137017
y-yes please?

>>4137023
http://modsreloaded.com/kingpintz-item-pack
Know yourself out.
Has every item worth having outside of some newer post 1.10 runewords, but you can just cheat yourself the runes into inventory and do the runewords yourself assuming you're running the premade package here which has PlugY, that thing enables ladder runewords in SP/Offline/Lan.

>>4137012
no
i had to grind for this view

>>4137026
thanks

why d2 is better than d3 in a single pic

>>4136993
>>4136996
Thats my point
A perfect version would have both, this game looks too good at 720p in any modern display to don't use it

>>4136972
80+ is nothing.

Try 90+. Thousands of runs on each character. Eventually you'll get everything, even that famed Enigma. And patch 1.13 fixed loot drops so you can get high runes.

My schedule is same every time I start playing. First MF farm with Summonmancer. Get all the desired loot, and in meantime get even more from random, unsuspected drops (my favorites are Ber rune drops from skull pile in Chaos Sanctuary).

And never, never ever play to find something. Play the game to have fun, and you'll be surprised how quick you get good stuff. If you play the game to find Shako, it will become frustrating when you do 31st Hell Meph run and it still didn't drop. Took me approx 200-300 before first Shako, then 100 more for second.

>>4137085
>tfw I never used Shako because cosmetics matter to me and I found it to be extremely fucking ugly
Am I a pleb? I always went for alternatives like Andariel's Visage for example.

>>4137083
I'm playing it in a 4k TV with godlike scaling, its so damn good

Why not just grind ancient tunnels and only ancient tunnels all day every day?

>>4137116
That's what I used to do with my sorc. But I never got anything good there, besides an Ohm rune. I might come back sometime, though, I like them better than the pit.

>>4137086
>mask
>not ugliest helmet in the game

so with imbuing an item through charsi it can only be a normal white/grey item right? I can't find like a decent rare and imbue it into an exceptional?

>>4137816
yes

>>4137816
dont waste it till what is it lv 45 or else every item will be shit

>>4137832
>>4137836
then I dont really get the point of imbuing, why bother with unstat'ed weapons

>>4137851
because it turns an item rare and it stats by your level

you can get some nice stuff from her

>>4137086
That's ridiculous. Entire game is kitsch, why bail over one item?

>the repack /players8 is broken

And I was wondering why fuck I'm on Baal at lvl 26 with no gear at all

>>4137878
works for me

when the fuck does dragoon barb become useful
even with 2 crushing blow weapons I'm dealing fuckall damage on normal

>>4137884
No, retard, the dll that change the /player mode is not even in the pack

just had this god like wand appear in a vendor

>>4137930
that aint a gift from god I got this retarded staff in act 1 before lv 10 once +3 firebolt warmth and inferno and turn into a leaf staff pure fucking cheese till mid nightmare

>>4137953
almost beats this random ass god tier drop i got below lvl 10 >>4136949

>>4137956
turn it into splendor

>>4137976
what does this mean

wew
got 100~ mf now before even finishing normal

>>4137978
runeword

>>4138059
won't that remove the current +2 skelly skills?

>>4138062
No

>>4138062
ayyyy you best start reading into runewords
>>4137953
this was +6 plus +3 to all fire skills thus giving me +9 to important skills at lv 18 runewords are powerful but a bitch to make

>>4138081
>>4138091
cool will make it into that when i get these runes

>>4137247
I honestly prefer that over the disgusting medieval drunken pleb equivalent of a cap.

>>4137878
It does work you retard, it's not broken.
It simply works like in vanilla unmodded game.
People liek you shitposting that it doesn't work at all need to be executed.

>>4138062
The thing with runewords is that they DON'T remove whatever shit is already on the item, so if you find a godly blue wand for example you can rune the shit out of it and it will keep whatever it had before runeword in addition to runeword shit.

>>4138253
Listen, subhuman, create a new character go outside and kill a red shit, if it gives you 18 exp IS NOT WORKING YOU FUCKING RETARD

>>4138260
>>4138253
lmao at these posts
>>4138256
this is awesome, had no idea. mostly because i never played this solo until now and always had shit handed to me or whatever, never crafted runewords

>>4138260
RETARD

>>4138260
>>4138278
I bet you're a moron and typed "/players 8" instead of "/players8"

how the fuck am I supposed to deal with these lightning beetles in act 2, my frenzy barb had almost all his points being put into vitality and I've got 40 lightning resist and he's the second character I've lost this week to a mob even while downing rejuvs
is there some trick to dodging their lightning retaliate attacks?

>>4138284
Try not playing Barb.

>>4138289
I've got no interest in casters and my paladin died just as easily to them

>>4138280
>>4138278
>he did it manually

holy shit you fucking retard the point here is having /players8 without the 800% HP monsters, RETARD

>>4138291
Play on players1 if you're doing HC.

>>4138295
if I'm alone in a private game is it not on a 1 player setting by default

>>4138293
Keep moving the goalposts, you were clearly saying it doesn't work at all when it does work.
And if you had minimum of reading comprehension you'd read the thread and see like 30 posts that already say that you don't get VF's .dll functionality since it doesn't work with Multires and it's not a bug, it's simply impossible to make that one feature work with Multires.

And to blow you the fuck out even more, >>4138260 here your own post claiming it doesn't work at all.

Now get cancer and die dipshit.

>>4138297
It is if you haven't used the command.

>>4138303
so it is on 1 player by default? I've never used commands and I'm just on the regular bnet servers

jesus you guys are so fucking AGGRESSIVE

>>4138298
THE MOD MAKE PLAYERS8 DEFAULT WHILE KEEPING THE MONSTERS NORMAL, WHO FUCK NEED A MOD TO USE A GAME COMMAND, FUCKING BRAINDEAD TRASH

>>4138308
Ye.
You can't even use the command in multiplayer at all, as in it does nothing in MP since the game is hardcoded to only allow it in single player.

>>4138316
The mod does a lot more than just this, you're a fucking moron that can't even read. Get cancer and die already motherfucker.

>>4138319
You are already here for the cancer, go to >>4136031 fucking piece of shit the ONLY thing working is the cube at character creation which is USELESS TRASH just like you

>>4138321
>only cube
Yep, you are confirmed fucking retard because ALL OF THESE:
CharStats.txt - Horadric Cube at Character Creation
CubeMain.txt - New Cube Recipes
Experience.txt - Experience Table (Experience Ratio doesn't decrease after 70)
Inventory.txt - Stash & Cube Size
LvlMaze.txt - Room Sizes
Misc.txt - Lysander sells TP/ID Books & Scrolls
MonStats.txt - Cow Resistances
Runes.txt - Runewords
TreasureClassEx.txt:
- Improved rune drop rates (including monsters & chests)
- Countess can drop up to Zod
- Ability to open Cow Level even if King was killed

ARE

FUCKING

WORKING

THE ONLY ONES THAT DON'T WORK ARE THESE:
- Fixes the infinite loop CPU bug that caused the CPU to stay at 25%~+ and 50%~+ CPU usage in single player
and multi-player games respectively.
- Experience beyond two screens
- Monster HP, Experience, and Monster/Chest Item Drop Amounts are the same between /players 1 and /players 8

Seriously I want to murder you for your idiocy.

>>4138327
And you need to sacrifice HD mod to get the WORTHLESS TRASH AS YOUR FUCKING EXISTENCE crap and you lose the actually usefull features, RETARD

>>4138334
>being THIS fucking RETARDED that you can't CHEAT in a fucking VIDEOGAME
Somebody please execute this moron, I will pay you 1000$ if you do and timestamp it.

>>4138317
dammit, so all there is to avoid that shit is get better at dodging their lightning then?
I already stayed up all night grinding out this barb to catch up to my friends waiting to kill diablo and now I'm having to start all over again

>>4138339
Anon, you're clearly new at this game, stop playing HC cause you're too fucking casual for that.
HC is for people that know the game like the back of their hand and don't mind spending a shitton of time kiting mobs and whatnot.

>>4138337
>YEAH I'M RETARDED AND I ADMIT MY 150 SHITPOSTS ABOUT IT WORKING WAS CRAP BUT IF THE MOD WAS WORKING YOU WILL BE CHEATING I KILL YU IRL XDD

Stop punching your keyboard and crying you will wake up your mom and she is already tired of your fucking basement existence

>>4138337
>Somebody please execute this moron, I will pay you 1000$ if you do and timestamp it.

>moooom lend me 1000 bucks i need to kill some guy from the internet

>>4129467
So it is a single item that gives you:
+2all skills
Massive FRW
8% reduced damage
8% more life
Insane strong bonus allowing you not to put a single point in that useless stat
Mf bonus
AND A FUCKING TELEPORT ON TOP
go figure why it is so desired

>>4138343
>>4138347
Have a last (You) since you clearly are incapable of basic reading comprehension. Nowhere was it claimed that this feature works, the thread is full of repeating thousand times that this one particular feature doesn't work and literally nothing can be done about it short of getting rid of higher resolutions. The rest of the features do work and having them is still thousand times better than playing unmodded, the fucking revised EXP table alone makes reaching max level actually doable without a metric fuckton of grinding past level 70, unlike unmodded.
Also good job samefagging like the /v/ trash that you are. You clearly are desperate to have the last word so here you go dipshit, it's a freebie.

>>4138342
I'm not beating this game on babbymode before I beat the real game
also my friends are all HC characters and one of them is an even bigger casual than I am, I can't even play with them if I went to ezmode

>>4138354
The missing feature is the only one that matters, kill yourself and never post here again, cancer with a keyboard

>>4138327
>- Ability to open Cow Level even if King was killed

This one doesn't work for me, actually I can't even open the fucking portal at all. everything else works though

>>4138357
They're already laughing behind your back at what a casual you are, you are beyond lost anon.

>>4138360
Did you beat Act 5? You need Act 5 finished before you can open it anon.

>>4138361
they know it and I know it, but they also know that I'm still better than our shittiest friend who lost 9 necros before even getting to duriel

>>4138363
To be perfectly honest, there is nothing harder than Act 2 as Necro. Especially the bug caves, the fucking sanctuary and then Duriel.
Way too many tight narrow spaces to make Necro count and then Duriel resists Necro's shit so you're fucked in general.

>>4138362
Yeah I did, also opened up once into nightmare and went back to normal to see if that made it work but nope

>>4138354

I'm not that guy, are you going to kill me too?

>>4138284
>is there some trick to dodging their lightning retaliate attacks?
Try standing still, or at least not running around like an idiot and attracting all of them.

>>4138367
Wait, it opened in Nightmare but won't open in Normal or what? I'm confused.

>>4138365
but bone spear rips through enemies in those little tunnels and having a barb and an assassin guarding you 90% of the time gets rid of most of that risk

So, skellytard memers, what the fuck do you do when the boss wiped your shit and you have no corpses to raise more boners?

>>4138373
>Bone spear
Not every Necro is a Bonemancer.

>>4138371
No I mean I finished normal, tried to open the portal and it didn't work. So I exited, and opened a new game on nightmare, exited, went back to normal and tried again and didn't work still.

>>4138378
well all of his have been boners

>>4138380
What are you using to open the portal? On VF you open it with regular TP book.

>>4138385
Then he's a pleb indeed.

>>4138386
uh.. I put wirt's leg and a tp book into the cube and clicked the transform button

>>4138390
Put just the book, no wirt's leg.

>>4138391
Oh, alright, thanks. will try later

>>4138393
I guarantee you it works, Wirt's leg is simply removed from the recipe to make it faster to spam cow level in VF.

>>4138376
Assuming normal, just use bone spear or a good weapon, if you have one.
If you're still having trouble on NM/Hell, you need to git gud.

>>4138376
RAISE MORE SKELINGTONS

hmm what might this be!

>>4138459
War Travelers?

>>4138468
nah...

>>4138471
Welp. Still good low level find.

>>4138350
>strength
>useless stat
HURRRRR MUH VITALITY
fuck off, autist

>>4139064
Yes anon, it's useless.
You only put enough in Str and Dex to equip gear.

>>4139110
enjoy not being able to deal damage or hit anything ever, you vitality autist, you millennial, you TROLL

>>4139116
You are confirmed retarded, gear and skills give you so much shit you never have to worry about those.

>>4138284
Hit and run. Do a few hits then run away so you can actually dodge some of the lightening bolts and that you aren't constantly hitting a mob of beetles throwing a bunch of damage everywhere.

Also anyone thinking they are getting the Diablo 1 experience from the Tchernobog mod is just getting a Diablo 2'fied experience of it.

>>4139202
>a Diablo 2'fied experience of it.
>no runeword autism
>no vitality autism
>no level 85 grinding spot autism
>no botting autism
>no duping autism
>no rainbow facet autism
k

>>4139216
>no rainbow facet autism
can you explain this one?

>>4139231

>>4139234
yeah i know about them but did people farm and use them for real? are they any good?

>>4139216
>no duping autism
That was one of the big problems with Diablo 1's multiplayer and duping is an exploited glitch in speed runs for the game.

>>4138365
you fix faggot lair with merc and terror. despawn all fucken skelefags and let merc and amp+CE do the job. fix bugs blocking the doors with terror.

same for arcane sanctuary

and spend few more minutes leveling to 24 so you get decrep for duriel

end of fucking story

summonmancer is the most op class ever

I got him to 94th lvl and forgot I still had +2 wand from act 1 normal

>>4139236
They are literally some of the best socket items for weapons/shields you can get.

>it's an anon runs around the great marsh thinking there must be something there episode

>>4139252
>I got him to 94th lvl and forgot I still had +2 wand from act 1 normal
That's because Summonermancer is basically the only build in the entire game that doesn't rely on gear at all for the most part.

>>4139202
it is more like diablo 3 than diablo 2

>>4139771
t. person who never played diablo 2 or diablo 3 and is just trying to troll for replies

>>4139771
That's so fucking wrong.
Beelzebub and Tchernobog are, at their core, D1 with D2 elements.

>>4138471
>25% CB
Time to make a kicksin for fun. Stack CB/leech, keep venom and cloak of shadows up. Use a dagger or something that ignores monster defense and have fun. I actually managed to beat (barely, it was ass compared to a smiter because of hit chance) the special bosses including Tristram and get a torch with one. Super fun build but it sucks so bad at crowd control that it takes forever to kill anything end game. 100% boss killer in late hell mode

crutching blow

>>4139946
Just toss death sentry onto any assassin build for crowd control. It is only 20 points investment for what is some of the best gear-independent crowd control in the game.

>>4129467
allows for fast runs and perfect placement ontop of mobs so each hammer can hit them 2-3 times

Anyone got any pastebin's or any sources for builds? I'm kinda new to the game. (Lived under a rock most of my life)

Ive always been tempted to do a permadeath run of vanilla diablo

>>4140826
there is literally an option to do exactly this called hardcore. you check it when creating a character.

in my opinion it is bullshit especially in Hell when something can fly at you at the speed of sound and instantly delete you without you even being able to react.

How the hell was the orchestral music (not the ambient or guitar tracks) made for this game? A live recorded orchestra?

>normal Duriel

>>4140826
Pointless, you can press esc if you are going to die and return to town

>>4140930
>ice merc with ice bow
>freeze him back
>lel duriel

>>4140930
>potion of thawing x3
lol

hey guys what class do I use for polearms?

>>4141205
I think it's been repeated many times that Duriel's freeze isn't curable.

>>4141662
Barbarian or druid

>>4141697
Okay I'm using barb, what do I do, whirlwind?

>>4141662
You can make a cheap whirlwind barbarian with a random Elite rare polearm (you can try rolling your imbues for one in a pinch). Berserker builds should work for that too, if you're looking precisely for polearms for the flavor/looks.
>>4139116
>can't hit anything ever without Dex
>with a Hammerdin

>>4141710
>>4141728
thanks man, I just got to act 2, d2's hella comfortable and good

>>4141690
Even if it were the case (which it isn't), Thawing Potions give you cold resistance, which helps with his spikey damage. Even then, every class has a way to deal with him. High block (with any shield that is specifically blocking focused; Drognan sells those, I believe) helps.
Necroes can just spam Clay Golem+Iron Maiden in his face and be patient. Paladins have Holy Shield. About the only class I'd be scared to fight with Duriel at this point would be Bowazon, because of low damage combined with little room for kiting and a lack of shield. Then again, Bowazon is really crippled in Diablo 2 without uber gear. Anyhow,. it's a tough, but fair fight.

>>4141728
>playing Scrubadin

>>4141759
This post chain originally referred to a Hammerdin, so that's why the post referred to a Hammerdin.
Even then, no caster class in this game needs a single point in Dexterity (unless max block is needed) because you don't need Attack Rating to hit with any spells.
Not to mention that Strength and Dexterity, and Energy don't really give you much enhancement in the area of damage done, attack rating, and mana sustain, respectively. That is the only reason people pump Vit so much - becauee it's the only stat left that makes sense to pump, as it determines your survivability (which is of utter importance in HC, and also prevents you from making nuisance Travincal runs for gold in SC when you're in a bit over your head). Hell, high AR won't even help you in fights like Baal - on Normal, he's a level 60+ mob that you'll fight at level 40, tops; this is why physical characters have such a hard time hitting him no matter how much AR they stack.

If aiming is an issue, a way easier way of getting your attack rating up to speed is simply to get a cheap item nullifying the issue. Angelic Ring + Amulet will give you way more AR than you'll ever have to do with.

Strength doesn't give a lot of damage either, and on some builds it doesn't even matter. A Fireclaws Werebear or Holy Shockdin will deal kilotons of damage even with a Cracked Kris.

Only class that could max Dexterity above all else is a Bowazon - to offset the rather low base damage on bows and her skills with raw stats, and relying on your Valk + Frozen Arrows to do the defense for you.

Aside from that, there's mathematically no reason to put points into STR, DEX, and ENE above the bare minimum.

>>4140917
It was recorded by the Slovak Radio Philharmonic, yes.

>when night just keeps delivering

>>4142264
>over 9 and a half hours in one sitting
what is this outrageous autism

>>4142276
a 24 hour stream

>tfw finally killed diablo with the bruvs for the first time last night
>tfw harrogath is already infinitely more interesting than the rest of the game

>>4142293
THE BRUVS

>>4138256
How do you even make something without sockets into something with a runeword?

>>4142345

add sockets to it

>>4142373
How? You would only have 3 chances if you use the act 5 rewards

>>4142380
there are other ways

>>4142416
Is it the cube recipes? Because I thought those didn't work on items unless they were common.

>>4142424

you can cube most types of item (white, blue, etc) but you can only make runewords in white or ethereal.

keep in mind that higher level white items often spawn with + to skill modifiers. using this, you can take a white item with good bonuses, socket it, and insert your runeword, resulting in an item with a ridiculous amount of bonuses

>>4142513
Got it. Thanks for the info, anon. Might boot up D2 again then. Haven't touched it in about a year. People still play bnet?

>>4142524

yes, many

>>4141738
You're right about the cold res but Duriel has an aura. Holy Frost chills through Cannot be Frozen and ticks every couple of seconds. Planning on using thawing potions to get rid of the chill is not a plan which works for more than a second at a time.

I finished normal just fine I went to nightmare and I'm getting raped
Fuck necros

>>4142594
What level did you start Nightmare at? Around 45 is recommended (and achievable, if you don't skip any areas in your Normal clear).

Jumping into Nightmare might initially be a little bit of a shock, but in the end, Nightmare ends up being somewhat easier than Normal because your high-scaling skills should kick in at this point and pulverize everything. So if you're a Skelemancer, you probably should have your Raise Skeleton already maxed and be way on your way to max Corpse Explosion and Skeleton Mastery. Plus you should at least have a point in Amp. Damage and Decrepify (and its prereqs), though all curses are worth putting a point into. Revives are also going to be great.

>>4142594
you must be doing something super wrong. 20 in skeletons, 1 point in amp and clay golem, 5ish in both CE and buff skele.

GG through til start of hell.

>>4142702
agree with all of this except
>start nightmare at 45

Bloody hell. Don't think I've ever been beyond 35 at nightmare start with a skelemancer.

>>4138256
you can't runeword magic items retard

>>4142702
>What level did you start Nightmare at?
28

>>4141738
Duriel's cold is actually a damaging slow aura. It cannot be resisted with any amount of cold resistance items or thawing potions.

Why is the act2 merc the only one used?

Since my necro is shit, how should I build a pala to go for nightmare at lvl 28?

>>4142891
Because range AND slows my man.

>>4142891
relatively easy to keep alive
auras
can use weapon types with good runewords that give auras (insight/infinity)

a1 can be decent with skeles (faith bow)

>>4142891
Try not starting NM at level 28, otherwise enjoy not hitting anything

>>4142891
You should be lv30 before you finish Act 3 with no grinding or running areas twice. Are you using /players?

Auras for buffs, especially Holy Freeze for easier range dictation/kiting and for managing the little shits that like to run away.

>>4136916
I always get the opposite
>kill end of act boss for first time with players 8 on
>drops 2 rares and a couple of blues
>decide fuck it i'll do a quick Countess run to make up for it
>Countess doesnt drop runes

>>4142978
I killed baal at lvl 24, I'm 28 just because I did some diablo runs to get gear

I did all the quests and stuff so its not like I teleported to the bosses or shit

I think that thanks to the broken repack from >>4125905 the "get exp at more than 2 screens distance" is fucked up so when my spooky army kill something away I just don't get exp

I replayed this due nostalgia and holy shit, the gameplay is a fucking horrid shit

>literally spam 1 skill and pots to kill EVERYTHING
>the story is "evil here, kill evil ktxnbai"
>you can clear the game in 2 hours
>most of builds/classes can run naked since gear do NOTHING unless you are melee using melee and most melee classes don't even use melee stuff
>stats are only there to let you equip gear and don't die in 1 hit

The game/zones/monsters are gorgeous and the loot system is awesome yet useless but everything else is fucking shit

>>4143326
Some streamer did a full run (full normal to full hell) with a melee sorc in 8 hours a couple days ago, yes, this game is not here to be hard

>>4143326

>its a "this game that is loved and adored by everyone for 17 years is actually garbage" post

>>4143326
>>most of builds/classes can run naked since gear do NOTHING unless you are melee using melee and most melee classes don't even use melee stuff

???????????
Are we pretending Zealots and Whirlwinders aren't some of the most popular builds in this game?

>stats are only there to let you equip gear and don't die in 1 hit
But gear supposedly does nothing?

>one monster left

>>4143540
Every time

>>4135730
Is there anything I have to do to install this, or can I just launch it from the d2 exe or the plugY exe?

>>4145165
this desu. I need help. I already have a few random d2s scattered around my PC and when I go to launch from pluggy it instead opens one of those.

I can run it from the Diablo II exe but that doesn't have plugy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oXfBdBA1wxU
xtimus and cuck llama confirmed for lying, cheating, jews

>>4145165
Never mind. I'm an idiot. The version of D2 in my program files was interfering with the plugy shortcut.

Even managed to get my old characters and plugy stash transferred over, now I can continue in my quest to get all items.

>tfw you already have Tyreals but can't get a SoJ

>running a fresh barb with 3 piece cleglaws
>35% Crushing, 50% deadly

GG til nightmare.

>>4142764
Duriel has holy freeze and holy freeze deals cold damage. There is no such thing as a slow damage type. Not only that, but holy freeze gives him cold damage to his attacks. In fact, the majority of his damage is cold damage since he is pulsing cold damage and dishing out a heavy amount of melee cold damage.

>>4142583
Holy freeze does not chill, it slows. The blue is merely a state that has slow, the cold damage itself has no cold duration, and thus cannot chill. Thawing potions are still useful though, since they apply cold resistance and max cold resistance for 30 seconds.

manald shield

>>4145195
run nm andy

what the fuck boys?

i'm playing singleplayer and going for radament right now. right before the entrance there were no enemies and i have NOT been there before, this random ring is just lying here? what the shit is happening?

holy FUCK, knew i shouldn't give up picking up and iding ALL rings and amus that drop.

Where can I find some tchernobog lads

>>4145976
spooky time, that's what's happenin

>>4146243
theres at least me and one other dude here that plays it

i'm not hosting though

>>4146397
I'll host if you're up for a game
difficulty?

>>4146406
torment or hell are fine

>>4146409
172.76.110.69

>go afk
>one of my skelelals decide to wander off in a random direction suddenly and open some door
>didn't even see, i just heard the door opening noise and turned around to look at monitor
>skeletal idiot gets disintegrated, swarm of demons storm through door and kill me instantly before i can even reach mouse to do anything

fucking dumb skeletons

oh what can this be?

>>4146703
Nagelring

>>4146723
nah.. was hoping for a 2nd nagelring though

big green dead?

>>4146424
>door opening noise
>not playing with -ns while listening to manilla road

>d2jsp

just incredible how people are still buying this retarded virtual currency and feeding some autistic manchilds life to this day.

you'd think that with d3 launch and its youtubers somebody would have taken a shit on it already and got blizzard to shut it down

>>4148281
autism never dies

>>4148281
>>4148302
i was about to post this in the diablo 3 general and there isn't even one. nobody even plays it anymore apparently

what the fuck happened, jesus christ...

>>4148334
Did blizzard release the Necro already, and if so, is it even worth playing?

>>4148352
yes they did.. and somehow nobody even gives a shit. i think blizzard is dying actually, all their games are dying it looks like

Does anyone play the path of diablo mod on their servers?

so I used the staff of kings in the tomb and got to duriel solo but quit out because I nearly died instantly, then got a friend to join a new game and I dont have the staff and that quest is done but the duriel quest is still there

>>4148551
if you make a game the tomb will be open

>these stupid zealots in act 3 that do nothing but run away
>they don't even attack
wtf is the point

>>4148586
When you break the Orb, the remaining Zakarum start fearing you because they know they dun fukked up, so that's why they run away. It's a nice detail to the game, something totally unconventional.

Not many games pay attention to such random details, it makes D2 special even though it's pretty basic in storyline.

I reckon most other games would never reflect back on previous acts and change something so insignificant. Maybe Fallout 1 & 2...

>>4148602
huh, i swear some of them run away before i broke any orb.

also i really hope they make you able to set /players x in multiplayer if they make a remake, like if you're hosting and want to have /players 8 it should be possible

>>4148564
I'm askin because every game I make the real tomb isnt anywhere in the canyon, if I follow the icons on the waypoint it's not where it should be and not on any of the others too

>>4148606
well.. it is you just failed to find it
i'm guessing you can't see the symbol in the quest, but if you go to summoner the real tomb is the one icon that is missing from the ones floating around his area

>>4148618
no, I can see the symbol in the quest log, and I follow it's icon on the ground from the canyon waypoint but when I get to that tomb it's not that symbol, and none of the tombs have the area where the staff would go
I've made 5 games and explored every tomb in each of them

holy shit this book quest in act 3 is the worst

>>4148626
holy shit, i have been literally everywhere and it doesn't exist.

>>4148604
Also, another detail is that those Doom Apes Uniques escape if you don't kill quick enough. When they're down to some low health, they'll run off the screen and disappear.

>>4148632
It's ALWAYS in the Ruined Temple in Kurast Bazaar.

>>4148632
ruined temple anon
it's always the ruined temple
and it's always in the bazaar

>>4148624
the symbols around the waypoint are in a circle
all of the tombs are on two lines that intersect at a right angle
how the fuck do you think that tells you where it is?

you are just being retarded and it isn't like the tombs even move
look at the symbol right outside the tomb or use this map


>>4148626
it can be bad but the fucking jade bird quest annoys me more (in mp at least)

>>4148638
>>4148639
haha, i have never actually looked it up and every time i play i just go inside all the shitholes in act 3 until i find it