/vr/ - Retro Games

Better than Americans, worse than Japs desu

Why are europeans obsessed with the same games? Those are what I call "anti-classics".

They're everywhere.

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>>4126196
Because we DEMANDED IT!

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>>4126205
Why the fuck they remade this and not Marko Magic Football, that was clearly the superior game and it was developed by a british team too!

>>4126210
Oh fuck, even DS. Because that's the game we all needed when DS was released.

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>>4126221
Remake when? They're all ports.

>>4126224
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qHBvJbrjcfY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AT5nJ6NfU9U
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dce951BFFDM

>>4126231
Will James Pond be the next Tekken 7 guest character? Will James Pond be in /vr/ Fighters?

>>4126245
https://store.playstation.com/#!/en-bg/games/james-pond-2-codename-robocod/cid=EP4037-NPEF00056_00-GROBOCODXX000001

>>4126245
Pond could actually run faster than Sonic if he walked down a slope

>>4126058

Eurofags love this dogshit so much they made like 20 of them. I can't think of one worth playing.
If it weren't for good soccer games, you could write off the entire continent's contribution to video gaming.

Another one with countless ports.

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>>4126273
A GBC remake, not the same GB port. Because we realy need Alfred Chicken for GBC.

>>4126275
At least the character is cute.

Meanwhile, I want to punch the Soccer Kid face. The most punchable face in gaming.

>>4126281
And the Playstation game had an awesome OST.
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLRM_iTuH7vbxuohWoxeWValy5HJfEB3dk

>that last battle
>Alfred crashing down like a meteor to defeat this bizarre thing that's supposed to be a robo-chicken
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7lijiasre4
Hype as fuck.

Superfrog was a fun game though. It doesn't really have any issues except for that one weird long jump moon stage.

>>4126269
This, however, was irredeemable garbage and I can't believe there's more than one version. The music still haunts my nightmares. These two tracks are in every stage.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z3DA5WGTp94
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S2XINrX8Ia0

just as bad as americans desu, if it's not jap it belongs in the trash

>>4126058
It's only so bad when they attempt to emulate (or god forbid, directly port) Japanese games with some exceedingly rare exceptions. Just about every Euro mascot or licensed game especially from /vr/ days is god fucking awful.

That said, they also gave us Rare, Factor 5, Codemasters, Llamasoft, Rockstar/DMA, and pic related also gave us Worms... but yeah, these were games made on the cheap from hobbyists or semi-pros at best with piracy all but guaranteed. It's amazing that good stuff saw the light of day at all.

>>4126302
American arcade games from the early 80s were some of the best ever, pleb.

>>4126267
But Japanese people developed that game though. Were you perhaps thinking of Great Mission?

>>4126058
because they literally hate fun

>>4126267
I don't know about you but I actually liked the Infogrames game for the Gameboy. It sucks that the original version didn't have a password system (unlike the later Gameboy Color one) but it had some interesting levels and the music was pretty good for a licensed game. I wouldn't put it on the same pedestal as Wario Land or Link's Awakening but it's still a great Gameboy game to me.

>Barely anyones mentioned the horrible, rehashed garbage that is the Worms series
>Straight from the Queens arse

I used to love the few WORMS games I played on my computer growing up

Until I realised they kept making them

>>4126267

>Eurofags love this dogshit so much they made like 20 of them.

It's a comic strip, the most famous one in France. It's like asking why people keep making Garfield games.

what really bothers me in euro games is
>press up to jump

>>4126701
If you're emulating, that is easily fixable by remapping or a macro program like autoit or autohotkey

>>4126267
Most Asterix games are great, your taste is shit.

>>4126058
nipland > yurop > clapistan tbqh

Your opinion is invalid.

don't know why I'm replying to bait thread but what about Grand Theft auto and all those great games Rare used to make and then you've got Bullfrog games like Populous, Theme Hospital, Dungeon Keeper etc

>>4126281
But his name is SOCCER kid. If he were European his name would be football kid.

>>4126267
The Asterix games are great. What are you even talking about? Asterix is one of the very few great games on the SMS. Also one of the technically most advanced games on the GBA. I have 2 Asterix games for GB and enjoyed the hell out of them as a kid. Non Euros will never understand the Asterix feel.

Also there are plenty of great Smurf games. You people know shit. If you love simulators (I don't) then German companies did a lot of great titles like MAD TV.

>>4126661
Almost everything Infograms did was epic and they are Euros or rather were. Always amazing music.
Tintin in Tibet for GB was a lot of fun.

Also why is everyone forgetting about Rayman?

Yes, Europeans are terrible at making games

The problem is most European games were developed for home computers. This meant a lot of the best games were either a) unsuitable for consoles due to their controls (usually joystick and keyboard, then later mouse) and b) idiosyncratic and odd as fuck. This meant few of them left their country of origin.

The lack of general interest in consoles also meant there was a poor understanding of genres the Japanese were running rampant with, so must european platformers - and especially shoot em ups - are just terrible. Even worse the players themselves didn't have the context of console games to realise how shit most of the home brewed were so to this day big up absolute turds they loved when they were 7 because they didn't know better.

From what I can tell, yurop only makes good PC games. Rare aside, they can't develop shit on consoles.

>>4126986
they only started making good games after nintendo took them under their wing

>>4126986
Tons of Rare's games on the NES are hot goddamn garbage. Back then, if I saw Rare & LJN on the title screen of a game I'd rented, I knew I'd made a terrible mistake.

>Hugo.jpg

>>4127663
>Tons of Rare's games on the NES are hot goddamn garbage.
>what are RC Pro-Am, Snake Rattle N Roll, Wizards and Warriors and Battletoads

And those are just a few that I were thinking of at the moment.

>>4127591
Jetpac and Sabrewulf would like to have a word with you.

>>4126058
Best European games are PC games.
This can't be known if you play only consoles.

>>4127856
um superfrog is a pc game

Europeans are good at making autism games like strategy and simulation but not much else

Also they were good at graphics during the Amiga era but it seems they forgot how to do those

>Ctrl+F "Turrican"
>0 of 0
Turrican 1 + 2 + 3 for Amiga, Super Turrican, and Mega Turrican are all fantastic Euro platformers that any self-respecting /vr/ trooper should play and enjoy. I say this as an American who grew up obsessed with Mario.

>>4127992
Mega Turrican is the only good one IMO

>>4127995
This
Even Duke Nukem 2 is better than most Turrican games

>>4127992
only good thing about turrican is the ost

>>4127992
My nigga! is turrican 1 any good an amiga?
It seems they forgot to program the controls on MD and TG16. Turrican II on Amiga is my all time favorite game.

>>4127995
Did you even play Turrican 2? T2 was designed for the Amiga as the lead platform, while Mega Turrican was designed for the Genesis and later ported back to the Amiga as Turrican 3. It was a significant downgrade if you ask me.

>>4127996
Don't make me fuckin' pick between Duke 1 and Turrican (though I suppose Turrican wins just based on superior graphics and sound), but the entire series is superior to Duke 2.

>>4126058
>Calls a good platformer a piece of shit
If you want shit look up "Zool">>4126070

>>4127995
This

Mega Turrican is a top 10 Genesis game. Only con is the Alien level is a bit too long

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>>4126231
Are there a million ports of the other James Pond games as well?

>>4126663
I'm willing to forgive all the shitty games because it allows them to still support Armageddon which they do on occasion.

>>4128530
Nope, there's not even a port of James Pond 3 outside of the megadrive and snes.

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>>4128062
>Don't make me fuckin' pick between Duke 1 and Turrican (though I suppose Turrican wins just based on superior graphics and sound), but the entire series is superior to Duke 2.

Oh wait, I almost forgot, Duke 1 and 2 stole graphics from Turrican, so I guess Turrican wins by not cheating.

>>4126836
>nipland >= clapistan >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> u rop
FTFY

What is Alone in the Dark, the thread.

War Craft 2. Good RTS.

>>4126058
What the fuck are you talking about?
It's usually the european developers who push the hardware to its limits. Think about Factor 5, Velez & Dubail Dev Team, Shin'en, DICE (but I don't care much about Rare btw). Most of them started on the C64 and Amiga and later switched (for whatever reason) mostly to the Nintendo Platform. Obviously their experience with the home computers was a school of hard knocks.

Well DICE is a chapter of it's own. I fucking loved the earliest DICE games. Their Pinball series (Pinball Dream/Fantasies/Illusions) is a instant classic and was groundbreaking. Most games of that genre did follow the DICE formula since then (Pinball Mania, Pinball World, Slamtilt etc). Benefactor was also fucking awesome. But I don't like their later and especially recent games at all. Those racing games looked boring and Battlefield is a waste of time (the gaming equivalent of big-budget-garbage á la Michael Bay), while they still have an unreleased and almost finished 16-bit gem up their sleeve. "Hardcore" (Amiga and MegaDrive) despite being a obvious Turrican-Clone looked much more promising than those annual Battlefield/Battlefront crap.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wD_oFVeYZYo

And Velez & Dubail Dev Team did things with the Gameboy and GBA, that even Nintendo themselves never accomplished. Hell, Factor 5 afaik were involved in the development of the GameCube somehow.

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>nipland >= clapistan
lmao how deluded can you be

European games are far better than American games but worse than Japanese games. It's astounding how teenagers writing games in simple code for home computers made better games than the heavily corporatised American industry.

>>4126231
The CD32X cutscenes are admittedly nifty. Sort of a Hanna-Barbera/Danger Mouse vibe to them.

That PS1 intro is fucking terrifying tho.

>>4126058
It's already been said but it really has to be driven home how different the markets were.
the Euro side of things was much more focused on shit like the Amstrad CPC, ZX-Spectrum and Amiga. Even the C=64 was a bigger presence there than the states.

The games reflected this especially given the life cycle of those computers were much longer lasting two or three generations of home consoles at the time.

That's why you have so many Euros having fond memories of shit like the Dizzy games...

>>4130571
>fond memories of shit like the Dizzy games
my god

>>4130571
Again to the topic. There's like 20 Dizzy games and they all have been ported a thousand times.

>>4126663
Nope, Team17 is a living dinosaur. All they can do is chase after the fame they got from Worms:Armageddon game by making more and more gimmicky Worms games that stray away from original concept as far as they can. They will never make another game like that unless they make another game in Worms 2 product line without touching a single line in core gameplay and physics code.

It should've folded years ago and had the one russian who still maintains W:A source code release it to the public.

>>4129405
Whatever happened to them? Whatever happened to Silvia Schmidt? I need information!

>>4130654
Brits just LOVE Dizzy. I know Chris D. made a "new" Dizzy game called Spuds Quest I think. You know the Team 17 guy who made The Escapist or whatever its called again.

Anyways Simon the Sorcerer is a great adventure game.

>>4133640
Factor 5's separation from Nintendo didn't worked well. And the release of "Lair" around the Launch of the PS3 was disastrous and pretty much caused the bankruptcy of their US branch. Of course the closure of their publisher caused this too. But it looks like they reopened at least their german company in February 2017 again and are slowly starting business again. I think I heard they were recollecting their old licenses/IPs (Turrican and the Rainbow Arts games) until now.

About Silvia Schmidt... I don't know what she's doing now.