/vr/ - Retro Games

>>4121110
>BloodGDX

Haven't played much blood but my duke experience is similar. The pig cops are just fuckers. I think the game was just a product of being made by hardcore doomers that decided doom was too easy.

>>4121169
>The pig cops are just fuckers
Uh, what? Pigcops have a huge wind-up time compared to Blood cultists and you can dance around them with relative ease. They don't even do that much damage unless they surprise you at close range. In Blood they get more accurate AND fire faster AND do more damage AND take more hits as you increase the difficulty.

>>4121110
It takes a while to get the twitch rhythm right. There are also patterns you can exploit, like how they come to investigate when you pop out around a corner, and how you can reliably stun them for a couple seconds with a bullet while you move closer or shoot a different enemy. Aside from that it's reflexes, angles, covers, and being really quick/accurate with your dynamite throws. To be really good at Blood you need to be able to switch to dynamite and throw it accurately almost like you have a modern quick-grenade key.

The most common mooks in the game have hitscan weapons as strong as yours that they can fire as fast as yours can. And since they're computer controlled they react instantaneously.

There's a reason they were given bullshit traits like this, and that's because their AI limitations are laughably bad and the difficulty would be too low otherwise.

See they can fire, stand/go prone or turn one frame in their animation per AI tick but no combination of the three. With proper positioning you can exploit this to keep them in aim ticks instead of fire ticks.

Basically by jumping around like a monkey you can keep them turning to aim at you but never getting a chance to fire.

I burned through Blood and the incredible Death Wish mod over the course of a week or so, using the dosbox versions. It's a pretty tough game but more than beatable once you get the hang of it.

A little while after, BloodGDX dropped and it is just insane. Enemies are so much more accurate and deadly, and even a relatively small amount of cultists can be extremely dangerous.

The problem is BloodGDX. If you play it through dosbox, you will find a much more forgiving game.

>>4121356
>Enemies are so much more accurate and deadly in BloodGDX
I have not found this to be the case at all. My performance (skill-wise) in GDX is very similar to DosBox, maybe slightly worse because it's not the exactly same mouse sensitivity or whatever.

>>4121356
>The problem is BloodGDX. If you play it through dosbox, you will find a much more forgiving game.
Huh, I've actually beaten the game on dosbox and am replaying it on BloodGDX. I thought that it wasn't as hard last time I played it.

>>4121352
>See they can fire, stand/go prone or turn one frame in their animation per AI tick but no combination of the three.
Does BloodGDX alter this? Does running the game at a higher FPS increase the amount/speed of AI ticks? That would explain why they're reacting so fast if that's the case. Just cranking down my FPS would probably fix it.

>>4121342
>Aside from that it's reflexes, angles, covers, and being really quick/accurate with your dynamite throws. To be really good at Blood you need to be able to switch to dynamite and throw it accurately almost like you have a modern quick-grenade key.
I'm getting better with 'em. I didn't remember until Dark Carnival how to toss dynamite without having it explode on contact. Tapping altfire to light then holding fire to charge the throw is an odd way to do it, but the dynamite feels so good that I can excuse quirks like that. I love the sound when a horde of enemies get caught in a single explosion.

>>4121356
lol this is complete bullshit.

>>4121363
I do much better in GDX because of the much better mouse accuracy

>>4121110
try throwing dynamite around corners with the alt fire.

Yes they can be tough, blood aint no cake walk. Hit them first, don't be in line of sight. 1 on 1 at close range you can pitchfork them to lock them in pain.

>tfw alt-fire napalm launcher down a room full of cultists
>tfw toss a flaming hairspray can into a room full of cultists
>tfw alt-fire flair gun into a room full of cultists
>tfw gargoyle melts from alt-fire voodoo doll
>tfw butcher splits in two with skeleton still standing
>tfw alt-fire akimbo sawed-offs into stone gargoyles face
>tfw blowing up a group of zombies with TNT and punting around their heads
>tfw alt-fire Tesla cannon into group of hell hounds
>tfw life leech

Best weapons in any game ever

is Blood GDX good and finished enough?
I want to play Blood and I'm not using doxbox.

>>4121110

>there will never be a Blood remaster with high-quality images of the models
>the models probably don't even exist anymore

MODERN ARTS AND FEAR BOOKS

>>4121860
>MODERN ARTS
>not MILD OXEN

>>4121858
Good, but not finished yet. Some features are still missing and room over room is broken. But gameplay-wise it's already very accurate to to original game.

>>4121356
I'm pretty sure it's because GDX doesn't have a bug with the skill levels that was present in the original game. Basically, GDX is much harder on the last 2 skill levels.

>>4121830
>alt-fire voodoo doll
Still not sure how to use this effectively. I always just spam regular fire with the voodoo doll and it kills gargoyles well enough.

>>4121869
GET OUT SHIT BEATBOX MAALOX

>>4121367
> Does BloodGDX alter this? Does running the game at a higher FPS increase the amount/speed of AI ticks?
No, it's always 30 tics.

>>4121367
>Huh, I've actually beaten the game on dosbox and am replaying it on BloodGDX. I thought that it wasn't as hard last time I played it.

Well, does GBX fix the dmg glitch when loading a save on difficulty settings 1 to 3 ? That'd explain why you think it's easier, because it would be.

>>4121946
It does.

>>4121872
>Still not sure how to use this effectively.
Last I heard alt-fire voodoo was glitchy on GDX if that's what you're using.

blood wr got improved recently if any of ya'll are interested

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0tAH04Xaaw

>>4122074
thanks

>Episode warping (a recently discovered trick that allows the runner to skip a bunch of levels)
it's insane how they keep finding new tricks for speedrunning this shit even for 20 year old games. i think I learned from sgdq that they recently found new stuff for half life, too.

>>4122084
yeah shadow warrior classic got a similar skip aswell just before the blood one was found

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U3MP54ifL4w

>>4121870
>Basically, GDX is much harder on the last 2 skill levels.

Which is intended.
Enemies are harder to kill and there's more of them.

The last two difficulties are technically meant for co-op, but if you're crazy and extremely patient enough, you can do it on singleplayer.

>>4123261
>The last two difficulties are technically meant for co-op, but if you're crazy and extremely patient enough, you can do it on singleplayer.
only extra crispy is intended for coop

>>4121858
>is Blood GDX good and finished enough?

Yes it's good.
It's not finished, no, still in beta. But it's absolutely playable and I've already dumped a ton of hours into Blood using BloodGDX in recent weeks.

>>4121141

What's wrong with it?

>>4121110

Whenever you smell cultists around, just peek behind corners before just rushing in, and use dynamites as your main weapon.

>>4121872

It's very gimmicky compared to the superior accuracy and stunlock ability of the regular firing. It's just a single shot at the enemy nearest to your crosshair, or at least that's how I've understood it. There's a bit of delay before it actually fires, so you gotta use it for sniping or against non-hitscan enemies.

>>4121859
are these made out of clay doe? they look so fucking neat

>>4121110
You get like 6 metric tons of dynamite per level. Use it. Light the fuse and toss it into every nook and cranny. It can really bounce around corners if you light it first and throw it hard.

Because this game is balls to the walls. The only way to improve is to play it over and over to memorize the enemy positions.

>>4121110
Blood isn't as good as Duke and Shadow Warrior, but it's still better than Redneck Rampage and the Build version of PowerSlave.

>>4123903
>isn't as good as Penis Jokes: The Game

Get out.

>>4121110
Have I ever told you the madness that is E5M9: The Mall level?

>>4123342

Here's how they were made

http://www.the-postmortem.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1181

>>4121110
I thought this was DOOM.

I stick my head out of the gutter for one second and fate shovels shit in my face

>>4123903
>>4123981
Redneck Rampage Rides Again(the sequel) is as good as at least duke nukem 3D.

Blood>Shadow Warrior>Duke=Redneck:Rides Aagain

>>4124073

Go away, NESfag

>>4124080
Who the fuck is that?

>>4124083

The fact that you asked who it was rather than what it is indicates that you know who it is. On that basis, I assert again that you are he.

>>4124087
Well Id think you'd assume I were a person and not a thing.

I love bloods soundtrack, shit sets the mood immensely.

>>4124094

I could have been calling you an NESfag, as a simple noun. You correctly read it as a proper noun. Strange.

>>4124119
Not the NESfag, but you're reaching a bit here.

I love Rides Again I wouldn't go as far as calling as good as DN3D. DN3D has the "innovation" on its side.

>>4124080
>8:30 am
>on a sunday
>thinks I'm awake

What the hell, do you think I have a kids and/or I'm a productive member of society or what?

>>4124119
post your autism papers I know you got a copy around

>>4124060
go get some sleep

>>4124098
I don't like the CD version honestly. The midi shit (and the high quality one at that) is amazing though.

Does anyone have any idea what is this blood related project people on duke4 keep talking about?

>>4123295
Empirical aproximation of code

Playing bloodgdx and im stuck on e1m4 because it is impossible to actually hold the swim up button and get out of the water

>>4124650
Jump.

>>4124650
I had a similar problem. Checking, I found that my jump and crouch keys were bound to two different things and it was causing problems. Try that out.

>>4124462

For someone who's been playing the original Blood for at least five years, I can't notice any difference in the gameplay or the general feel. Only visual glitches with the room over room stuff.

I like Blood.
It's clever the way it teaches you the proper fighting technique with its basic enemies. To beat them you have to start fighting like a cultist but better: shoot fast and first; if in doubt, dynamite.
It is more true to the theme of western gunfights than most western-themed computer games I know.

>>4126079
Yeah or you can bunny hop in circles around them like a retard and they can't actually fire at you.

>>4126079
>It is more true to the theme of western gunfights than most western-themed computer games I know.
yeah that's what I love about it. it kinda feels like desperado on crack. that sawn off is too sweet too. game is so fucking explosive as well. has a really unique style of fps action.

>>4125959
>For someone who's been playing the original Blood for at least five years, I can't notice any difference in the gameplay or the general feel. Only visual glitches with the room over room stuff.

Yup, the gameplay is fuckin spot on, just have to work out the remaining rendering issues.
Mouse support is already outstanding and blows DOXBox away.
Playing it in high resolution with over 100 buttery smooth FPS is fantastic.

>>4126101
yeah? put up an episode 5 single playthrough on well done. let's see you 'jump around cultists like a retard' and we'll see how often you get shot.