/vr/ - Retro Games

=== CURRENT EVENTS ===

QUMP
-Still one map left to be finished
-https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Zlfb2U2VCeS70uS6Klc2ZEOC9KtnYyCyBXEmeetjh0c/edit
-https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mp_ZqCZPJKk

OP
-2016 torrent of idgames archive is gone; needs replacement?
-Looking for more unique images to start each thread with

=== NEWS ===

[7-3] Anon makes a joke map while waiting for QUMP
https://mega.nz/#!lQQSSIjC!TtptcHyxmxi0STHHkYm067tbfCm8yBI77CiIsUIC18k

[7-3] ROOTPAIN V2; the sequel nobody wanted
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/94860-rootpain-v2/

[7-2] scalliano's SUPER Shuffle released
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=56220

[7-1] Doom Retro 2.5 released
https://www.doomworld.com/profile/13784-bradharding/?status=1728077&type=status

[6-29] Wildweasel releases No Shotguns For You 2, replacing all shotgun-related entities with automatics
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=57073&p=1006547

[6-26] Russian Overkill 2.5 released
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=29915&start=1365#p1005931

[6-25] BloodGDX updated to 0.769, improves mouse control
http://m210.duke4.net/index.php/files/viewdownload/9-java/50-bloodgdx

[6-24] Spaceman333 released a Slo-Mo addon
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=57013

[6-24] Anon release; Lawgiver weapon
https://www.dropbox.com/s/f0mph24m8vglyu8/lawgiver.pk3?dl=0

[6-24] TerminusEst's pre-release of High Noon Drifter, a ZScript-driven mod
https://www.dropbox.com/s/in25xkxxr2wxe6t/HighNoonDrifter.pk3?dl=1

[6-20] Anon shares some stuff about ZScript HUDs
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1WmmsefkkMHMz1EN_3F-Y3_NR94uFr-2xxVJ7VvlJyPA/

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=== PROTIP ===

If you would like to submit any news or your personal map or mod releases here, or want to contribute to the OP, please reply/backlink to the OP or this post.

Am I totally a giant pussy for absolutely refusing to play Breakdown ever again?

Is there a mod where you get to kill KKK members?

>>4098935
Whats breakdown?

>>4098923
>That pic
wow anon, great stuff.

Its coming along, we have 2 maps in progress (one guy who had disappeared re-appeared with a mostly completed map) and our other WIP friend is still coming along.

Working on a visual effect for the fifth strike you get for Blaz's sword combo when you pick up a chainsaw tier item, it's a book that gives you an automatic finishing strike that works like GMOTA's old sword, where it strikes multiple times on hit

>>4098987
and here's what it looks like as a full combo. Shit's on fire, yo.

== DEFINITIVE DOOM GUIDE ==

http://culture.vg/reviews/videogame-art/not-art-doom.html

>>4098992
I think that a medieval melee weapons mod like this non-magical sword combined with a all hellish megawad will be my instant favorite :D

Local demon queen on unable to stand up straight.

>>4099013
The tits are too heavy

Just noticed something weird about the Doom mod image -- why isn't Brutal Doom in historically notable shit?

It's literally the most widely played and most well-known mod for Doom in the last 5 years, and Doom 4 is based on many mechanics from BD.

What's up with that?

>>4099017
try again another time

>>4099013
I've heard of a skewed perspective before but this is ridiculous.

>>4099013
i can be your angle or your devil

>>4098919
4 burgers, that's 4 burgers

>>4099021
Burgers.

>>4098987
>>4098992
Oh so the sword's no longer that strange shaped blue thing?

>>4099026
It still is, you tap the reload key to toggle between the powered and unpowered states.

>>4099028
I'm glad to see the Dildo of Destiny is still in.

>>4099029
I know they say anything's a dildo if you're brave enough but damn dude.

AUSTRALIA MODE ENGAGED

>>4099038
> hands-free hand stand

>>4099017
>and Doom 4 is based on many mechanics from BD

I think its cute that there are people who still believe this.

Angry man wakes up in a bad mood.

>>4099038
"Dang it, I can't take you anywhere!"

>>4099049
>Oh no
>Dr Betruger's class

>>4098952
I hope you're not just looking at the pic instead of playing all thirty seconds of "gameplay." it took two fucking days to make

>>4099023
beefy

This is an important feature.

>>4099081
Do not lewd the manlet.

>>4099085
rule34, motherfucker

e v e r y t h i n g

>>4099085
Is the player height shorter than normal in GMOTA

>>4099118
Yes. I made that a point to lower Blaz's player sprite and lower his viewheight, Samson is gonna have a shorter one, and Kustam will have one that's a little taller than the average doomguy

>>4099119
wait. is gmota getting new classes?

>>4099127
It's been something planned for eons but I've been a lazy asshole about adding them because Blaz's development has been so slow and muddled. Kustam is going to be a 7 foot tall warforged with a spear, rifle, and a mighty boot that'll be capable of blasting enemies into the stratosphere with charge kicks.

and Samson will be a little kobold who throws flasks, shoot crossbow bolts, and whack shit with an enchanted saber.

>>4099135
cool!

>>4099135
fucking finally.
i don't have to play as a manlet

>>4098919
JUST MADE THIS WALLPAPER

this is going to be shit.

>>4099194
What?

>>4099198
meme expansion. dont get your hopes up.

>>4099204
If it's not made by pillow, it's gonna be shit.

>>4099204
I assume it's a fan-made effort?

>>4099207
>implying a ro expansion from term or gmota guy wouldn't me better than what pillow is doing

kek

>>4099237
I'm curious, what would you expect to see from RO expansion if Term or GMOTA guy made it?

>>4099238
better sprites and better coding.

>>4099240
But neither of those guys really do sprites, they get stuff from other folks or edit what's already out there. Plus Pillow has been overhauling all of the sprites for RO and they look damn good now.

>>4099238
If Term made it, expect camera recoil, painstakingly edited sounds and lots of clicking
If GMOTA guy made it expect retro videogame sounds and arcadeyness

>>4099256
Oh right also if GMOTA guy made it expect a bouncing ball weapon somewhere

Anyone knows which wad is being played here? The train station and the train itself look really well-done
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hCY52focgfI

>>4099013
>>4099038
Wait, isn;t this High Noon Drifter? Someone tells me what the hell is going on here. I went away for a week and now there are demons in this Wild West mod now?

>>4099194
Personally what I would love is a extremely-nerfed RO. The gun sprites look so fucking fun, but is it so unreasonable that I don't like shit being easy and bombastic all the time?

>>4099282
Come to think of it, much less extreme versions of Pillowblaster mods could be pretty interesting. I would be genuinely curious as to how RO, Guncaster, and Trailblazer would play when trimmed-down.

>>4099278
A few threads ago Term teased a playable titty monster as part of a weapon.

>>4078662

>>4099278
She has a familiar now who she can unsealed and let go out for walks, I think

>>4099274
Looks like Sgt Mark's Hell on Earth Starter Pack.

>>4099240
> pillow does bad sprites
have you not seen the stuff he actually has made that aren't 5 year old edits of 10 year old sprites?

>>4099305
trailblazer isn't THAT OP (except maybe for the skullthrottle+browning)
i'd say that a simple +100~150% HP to monsters (there's a plugin that can do that, no?) and a good monsterpack (DRLAMonsters+RLME) and you should be good, no?

>>4099396
I've tried to get DRLA monsters to run with trailblazer and I get this error about puffs. I wanted to run some wads with it but I have no idea how to fix it because I'm retarded and have never tried to map/mod in my life. Doomkrakken's monster randomizer works, but it kind of sucks since a lot of the themes and visuals clash with each other imo. What I'd really like to do is to put a few more zombiemen/shotgunner variants like torm667's Dune trooper into DRLA monsters and get that to work somehow, I like how they're really fast and toss those grenades.
The best I could do is use slade and omit some of Doomkrakken's monsters but that makes a lot of the earlier monsters mostly zombieman and imps in a lot of wads.

Another thing I'd like to do for Trailblazer is also get Demonsteele's nazis or those dodge rolling Doom 3 troopers from metadoom to work too. I generally just enjoy zombiemen replacements that are a little more intelligent, that crouch and roll and shit.

>>4099396
>trailblazer isn't THAT OP

I dunno, it's arguably easier to become more overpowered than in Guncaster, which is also where you have to deal with a bloated inventory store. Trailblazer you just collect scrap metal and upgrade nearly anything you want. But otherwise yes, nothing comes close to RO.

is 'limit removing' and 'boom compatible' the same?

>>4099487
Limit Removing = same map format as Vanilla, just without vanilla's limitations taken into account, and thus, requires a port that raises/removes such limits. Uses the same complevels as vanilla wads use (2-4) in PrBoom+.
Boom compatible = uses the boom map format and requires a port that supports it. Bit of a misnomer, as plenty of modern boom format maps will not work with the original boom.exe, due to incompatible nodebuilders or exceeding its limits (prboom+ raised some limits higher than what boom initially did)

>>4099487
what >>4099520 said, the difference is basically whether or not you use any of Boom's mapping features (new linedef/sector specials etc.)

>dtwid.wad from idgames
>5.073.523 size

>dtwid.wad from official site
>5.073.423 size

>both have the same txt
>the one on idgames was modified 2 days later but maybe it was because of the upload process

which one should I play/keep?

>>4099085
That's a fun effect, but I think it should go in a more upward arc, and not as far. Like he's just tossing the bone, not using it as a projectile.

>>4099561
i don't think the upload process modifies wads, i think they only modify textfiles to remove email addresses and repack the zip in that case, but i don't think they touch the wad

my copy's md5sum is 73f2c37d5b42a3eada2127dbdd23907b . i don't think i've messed with it at all.

>>4099561
>>4099568 me
i also seem to have size 5073423 date 2012-02-07 13:54:56 (+0000) so i guess that's the second one? but i thought i had got it from /idgames. i didn't actually know there was another version

>>4099573
>>4099568
I mixed up the sizes, you both have the idgames one

this is the official site, where the other version can be downloaded: http://dtwid.herokuapp.com/

I wonder what the difference is. Probably nothing relevant.

>>4099561
I think those are different versions with different levels, where one had its own Thy Flesh Consumed but the other didn't.

>>4099578
>both
did you not notice the "me" ?

>I wonder what the difference is. Probably nothing relevant.

i'm going to figure this out

--- dtwid-idgames.wad
+++ dtwid-officialsite.wad
@@ -388,12 +388,12 @@ c3bf55ef 2744 NODES
7d282ddb 4972 BLOCKMAP
00000000 0 E3M9
48390dd2 5670 THINGS
-8ef249dd 22890 LINEDEFS
-7993375e 66720 SIDEDEFS
+71a9d453 22904 LINEDEFS
+534bfad3 66780 SIDEDEFS
a4dcd6a6 5836 VERTEXES
-2225ea32 29028 SEGS
-ccab4c05 3304 SSECTORS
+a14d0dc8 29052 SEGS
+df1cd198 3304 SSECTORS
1d9d5527 23100 NODES
9f0df669 6526 SECTORS
6c912748 7876 REJECT
-4315f380 14234 BLOCKMAP
+c00120f2 14236 BLOCKMAP

the official site one has one extra linedef, three extra sidedefs (wtf, why more than two for a single extra line!?), and rebuilt nodes.

...on e3m9, if it wasn't obvious

dumping the maps to text is producing huge diffs, it must be more than a trivial change

>>4099604
which one was released later?

Okay so I have this spawning actor I use instead of randomspawners, that when the level starts or a monster spawns from a script it contextually spawns whatever monster it needs to, with ambush flag, specials and tids intact.
Getting the DORMANT flag across to the spawned monster however is harder than I thought it'd be. (had to make all spawners SwitchableDecorations as only them and monsters accept the dormant flag to begin with)
I got it sorted out in the end though, hooray!

>>4099613
2012-02-07 13:54:56.000000000 +0000 dtwid-idgames.wad
2012-02-05 15:06:18.000000000 +0000 dtwid-officialsite.wad

the one on idgames has a timestamp two days later than the one on the official site.

>>4099018
You responded, he still won anyway.

Holy shit, I'm trying to play Quake through Quakespasm, but for the life of me I cannot get the fucking music to work, I downloaded the music pack from quaddicted, removed the extra 0 from the track names, triple checked the folder and the readmes, and the music still wont play automatically. I can force the music to run with the "music" command so I know it can recognize them but it still wont play normally.

>>4099636
do you have 'play external music' enabled
is the folder in the right spot

>>4099204
>meme as an adjective

Fucking stop. NOW.

>>4099639
External music was enabled by default, and the music folder is where everything I've read has told me to put it: in the id1 folder.

>>4099653
Stupid question: what's the full path to your Quakespasm folder? Sometimes if a folder name is too long (i.e. quakespasm-0.92.win64.73896712 or whatever the default folder name is) QS will have issues. Not guaranteed but I've had it happen.

>>4099667
the full path is
C:\Users\------\Downloads\Quake\Quake I
the dashes obviously aren't there in the actual path.

>>4099709
Try getting rid of the space in Quake1.

>>4099710
still nothing, I even tried changing the numeral to an actual one, and still nothing.

draw pain elementals

>>4099718
I don't know why so many people have this same issue. Has anyone tried asking the sourceport's creator?

>>4099635
nah

>>4099641
lol, what's your beef dude? do words on the internet strike a never?

Currently playing Unloved, the DOOM II WAD. Holy shit it's so good. Recommend more amazing WADs please.

guys, I am a retard and google couldn't help me.
I have downloaded meta doom. how do I play a wad (alien vendetta) using it? I'm using gzdoom.

>>4099783
Select both metadoom and alien vendetta wads and drag them onto the gzdoom exe. Alternatively, get ZDL.

>>4099783
gzdoom -file av.wad av.deh metadoom.pk3

>>4099240

Pillow does, like, infinitely better sprites than me. Hell, he does infinitely better sprites than both of us combined, and Kegan already does sprites five times better than me.
Pillowblaster's really taken self-improvement and honed it to a fine art. If there's something he can't do, he'll hammer at it until he can do it. It's really admirable.

>>4099783

Click both MetaDoom and AV. Remember, you can hold ctrl to click on multiple things at once.
Drag and drop both onto .exe.
Play on Doom 2.

>>4099017
>Doom 4 is based on many mechanics from BD.
oh hi mark

>>4099061
What's happening in that pic?

>>4099816
quakeguy is becoming an astronaut

>>4099789
>>4099790
>>4099791
thanks

>>4099816
HUUHmander Keen in: Shamblers Ate My Squadmates

I've never played Wolfenstein 3D before so I'm trying out ECWolf. Game seems to run really fast, but maybe I'm just used to DOOM running in DOS so the high framerate is throwing me off. How close to the original DOS version is ECWolf?

>>4099396
Upgraded dual sawn-offs are probably even scarier, because they are always in abundance and making them triple barreled and with increased pellet count while still only using 2 shells is pure madness.

>>4099850
It puts them in line with what they were in earlier versions of Trailblazer, since they took a slight nerf since then

Trailblazer just has some really overpowered weapons, but there's a lot of underwhelming ones too

Dual SMGs for example, that shit is just lame

>>4099895
>Dual SMGs for example, that shit is just lame
They outgrind the machine gun with their pure DPS though, although Heavy Machine Gun is far cooler upgrade than some silly random rockets.

>tfw the only mapsets I want to play are not released

Really itching for BTSX E3, TNT2, and FDTWID.

>>4100013
>TNT2
that came out last month didn't it?

>>4099723
Okay I normally don't draw stuff, but here you go.

>>4100018
TNT Revilution is not TNT2.

>>4100026
oh then i guess i don't know what TNT2 is

what are the demonsteele pro strats

>>4100059
1: dodge a lot, a LOT
2: cut a lot, save guns for long-range or softening up enemies
3: save up meter, only use sword special moves for crowds (or the CUNTING blackened) and gun-special moves for big targets
4: repeat until proficiency is acquired

>>4100070
another thing.
how do i defeat the devil driver?
i've played the mod quite alot and the best strategy seems to be to just wale on him with the sword like a madman and take a few hits, or use the iron maiden. What do those sphere things around him do?

>>4100026
Then is it Devilution?

>>4100072
the higher-up enemies are what you're saving your special attacks for
abuse the gun specials on him, especially the shotgun special and grenade special
an iron maiden is fine too

also, they heal

>>4100093
>>4100070
I see a lot of people, especially on YouTube, completely waste their special meter. And it's all "uuugggghhh nooooooooo" to see because they're just fucking themselves down the line. When I play Demonsteele I try to always keep at least one full bar for emergency situations.

>>4100109
i tried watching icarus stream it and after 40 minutes i just couldnt handle it anymore

>>4100117
Icarus is not particularly great at Doom, and he REALLY cannot into melee

>>4100120
I love Icarus' vids and watching him to death, it's clear he has a real love for Doom and love playing stuff
BUT USE THE MELEE MORE
PLEASE
PLEEEEASE
PLEEEEEEEEASE

>>4099723

There you go.

This is fine and all but Caco is still superior and cuter.

>>4100147

Pain Elemental is like Caco's introverted little brother. Looks kinda unsure of himself, can't fight by himself, bursts into really bad smelling coughing fits when in danger, but does his best to look like he fits among the other guys.

>>4100147

The Icon of Sin should've been architecture rather than just a texture.

>>4100179
It's architexture.

Given the limits of the vanilla engine and the target hardware at the time, it probably would have looked like butts.

>>4100192
i would be okay with a final boss that's just one giant butt

it would be an assault

https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/93568-%F0%9F%98%88-solace-dreams-%F0%9F%98%88-alpha-046/?do=findComment&comment=1767494

>>4100201
I'm sure people will be SO EAGER to make maps for him.

How would you fix the Icon of Sin?

How would you fix Shub-Niggurath?

>>4099845
I wondered so too when I first played it.

wolf3d is really fast. as in, REALLY fast. you gotta grow used to the mobility, cause BJ is fast as fuck and the gameplay is really forwarding.

>>4100270
I'm assuming we're talking something like GZDoom here

Give Icon Of Sin arms (they can be like 3 or 4 segments each) which reach out of the floor or walls, they either lumber slowly towards you to slam you, or they throw big exploding fireballs. Once you get up on the platform to shoot him in the brain, one of the hands will begin to reach for you to swat you off or grab you.

>>4100270
>How would you fix Shub-Niggurath?
Make the game a dating sim.

>>4100347
>H-Quake
I guess you wouldn't be teleporting inside of her.

>>4100354

Or maybe you would, depending on how kinky you want to get.

>>4100367
Telefragging =/= Sex

>>4100372
What about telefugging?

>>4100270

> Icon of Sin

Honestly just make the arena more interesting and you're good to go. Maybe give the face a pain texture, another set of textures when it's on low health and a death texture. And make it go more aggressive when it's on low health.

> Shub Niggerath

The arena would be a massive outlandish cavern with a ton of space to move in. Shubby is sleeping in the middle inside an impenetrable cocoon at first. There would be smaller Shubs cocooned around the arena guarded by some kind of forcefields. The teleporter is now used for feeding the younglings and you'd have to use it to teleport inside the forcefield so you can destroy the baby. After killing all of them Shubby would come out of its cocoon and you'd have to just shoot it a fuckton while fighting the mobs. After she dies it would reveal some kind of smaller creature that you'd have to smack with your axe to cut it into pieces.

Yeah. English isn't my first language also.

>>4100375
Seems dangerous, like it'd require very very high precision, wouldn't want your dick to suddenly occupy a space it shouldn't, that would be horrible for all parties involved.

>>4100372

Ever heard of vore? Not talking about the hostile spidery kind.

>>4100270
>How would you fix the Icon of Sin?
Make it a regular boss monster like the cybedemon or the mastermind instead of a fucking level geometry entity. He'd have a homing attack like the revenant, and to make things interesting, he would still be able to summon monsters, but he would never be targeted for infighting.

>How would you fix Shub-Niggurath?
Make the fight more arcade-y. Something like having to lower pillars so you can shoot her, but they only stay lowered temporarily. All the while she spawns minions to aid her. Something like that.

>>4100385
>How would you fix Shub-Niggurath?
>Make it an Icon of Sin fight
???

>>4100382
>hostile

>>4100275
I just checked out the DOS version

Does Wolf3D really run at a higher framerate than DOOM? Seems crazy. Also is there a way to make ECWolf display the game like DOS? Even at 640x400, the graphics in the distance are a lot crisper.

>>4100382
>>4100430
> three legs
how many vaganias is that

>>4100593
No vaganias, just a butt and a cocke and also balls.

>>4100593
Not enough.

>>4100598
Why does a Shalrath need one? It's not gay if it's an eldritch abomination from realms uncharted of dimensions unknown.

>>4100462
>▶
wolf runs at 70 while doom runs 35, so a half time slower.

If I gave a Lost Soul kind of monster the +PUSHABLE flag, I could push it out of my way even as it hits me with a melee attack, right?

Just kinda wondering, what would Rootpain's "legacy" be if the author just did some throwaway account on some random map depository site, uploaded it there and never touched that account again? Just remove all references to himself from the 'mod' and just let it be?

>>4100593
i don't know but it makes me angry there is SO MUCH doom porn (even just doom 1) and less than one page of quake (all games)

>>4100615
probably hardly any

rootpain isn't quite a demonstration of the streisand effect, but half of the novelty is the fact that he defended it so vehemently to the point where he harassed his critics and got banned
if it was just another shitty pretentious map, there's a hundred dozen of those already out there

>>4099636
I have mine set up like pic related and works fine.

make sure the files are in .ogg format, named exactly like mine are, make sure they're all in a 'music' folder inside the 'id1' folder, inside your quakespasm folder.

>>4100430

I fucking swear these guys were originally meant to be the d64 revenants but they placed them as textures because they couldn't get them in the game

>>4100606
Yeah but for flying monsters this may result in the behavior of pushing them back with a high kickback weapon, a.k.a they stop attacking until they are stopped by a wall, i think, you should test this to see if the behavior becomes present.

>>4100754
That's actually fine with me I think, these things are gonna be dumb.

>>4100754
>>4100783
>Huge open map with a massive outdoor area
>Lost Soul tries to attack player
>Get clipped with a shotgun
>Lost Soul flies off into the stratosphere

I like the sound of this already.

>>4100843
That sounds pretty good actually.
Though generally I intend for them to be kind of brittle, and that they bite a lot up close but that you can just shove through a bunch of them if you need to.

>>4098919
>>4098923
Just want to express some gratitude to OP and the effort put into maintaining the news post. I really enjoy reading the news ticker and often find good stuff while browsing through it. Makes me feel happy.

Thank you.

>>4098919
>>4098923
Just want to express some gratitude to OP and the effort put into maintaining the news post. I really enjoy reading the news ticker and often find good stuff while browsing through it. Makes me feel happy.

Thank you.

>>4100859
This. It's really convenient to have the news rundown for the things that slip through or the very small-scale releases from anons here.

>>4099723
pain elemental-tan learning how to pistol start

Anyone has Doom 3: BFG edition on Steam?
If so, is it true that it adds originals except for Final Doom to your library?
If that's true 5$ would be pretty damn low.

>>4100983


yes but they are censored, they are not the originals

http://www.movie-censorship.com/report.php?ID=337145

>>4100983

also, they aren't in your library, they are inside the game, you choose them from a menu

>>4100983
I got the retail version from gamestop on a hell of a clearance (like a couple bucks) and the code worked, however it only unlocked BFG edition. I mean, BFG edition does come with versions of Doom 1 and 2 but they're modified versions that essentially run in DOSBox that also requires sitting through a forever long set of splash screens to get to. If the world ended and all you had was a PC hooked up to a portable atomic generator and a BFG edition disc then sure you'd have the original games to play, but most people would consider those versions to be trash especially when tons of sourceport options exist.

>>4100983

but the bfg edition adds a second expansion to doom 3 and the doom 2 expansion from xbox

>>4100987
>replaced SS guys with zombiemen
>not even SS guys with zombie skin
>just pistol fodder
FCUK

>>4100987
That sucks. Fuck (((Germany))).
>>4100992
So should I buy Doom 3 Pack (with DLC) but no BFG or are there any good source ports? Any way to download game data?

>>4101009

->

>>4100995

also, I think the original doom 3 doesn't support 16:9

>>4101012
It does to a degree. You've gotta set it in the console or ini but the HUD gets stretched.

Was anyone else bummed out that they showed Mecha Hitler in the new Wolfenstein trailer? Just before they show the robo dinosaur you can see homeboy fighting something that looks just like the old boss. Why do trailers always spoil things?

Also, I can't play games with these HD graphics, it's too good damn distracting to look at everything, why does everything have to be so detailed?

I've been playing nothing but Zdoom ports and mods and it's the most fun I've had playing Vidya in years, fuck the fancy gfx

>>4101018
>Mecha Hitler
Wow they actually decided to add that? I gotta see that trailer. I do agree that spoiling remarkable things that would have worked best as a surprise sucks.

I also do agree with the HD graphics. I've played all the newer wolfensteins and a lot of other modern fps games with fancy gfx, but all that detail really cuts into the gameplay in a negative way for sure.

The most prominent example of this is the 100.000 Revenants video, then the 1.000.000 Revenants video and finally the NuDoom's 12 Revenants video contrasting the others.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wh261nfSn3E
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ss8SyOhqk1I

>>4101018
>Was anyone else bummed out that they showed Mecha Hitler in the new Wolfenstein trailer?

If anything, I'm rather happy they did. I was extremely disappointed Hitler didn't make any appearance in the previous games, so having them straight-up go "YUP HE'S IN THIS ONE" is good.

>>4101018
Were you bummed out when the original teaser for Doom 2016 showed the Cyberdemon?

>>4101045
I was bummed out when it showed the old tech doors and didn't use it in the final.

why do you continue to post on an anonymous board about doom instead of the many, many, many other communities out there?

>>4101048
I'm already familiar with the autism here.

>>4101048

I like to have intelligent discussions with fellow gentlemen and scholars

>>4101048
>anonymous board

Gee, that was easy.

>>4101048
Because I'm sick of other communities.
I'm sick of the people who start kissing my ass as soon as my name comes up.
I'm sick of the people who've made up reasons to hate me and the things I've done.
I'm sick of the people who claim to want to help with stuff and then either do nothing or get pissy when I ask.

Anyone can be anonymous. Anyone can post anything as anonymous. Anyone can say anything. I don't have to worry about people trying to look good for me. I can actually get feedback and criticism for initial ideas and things that might be cool to work on.
Well, for now, at least. There's always gonna be shitposters, especially as communities expand. I wonder what will happen then?

>>4101053
i sense lewdness
provide source

>>4101048

Because I like how people don't have a fucking record of your post history here.

>>4101048
>implying I'm not posting about quake

>>4101048
because 90% of the time there's actually discussion about doom instead of gossip

>>4101060
https://e621.net/pool/show/11919

>>4101048
Why not both?

>>4101048
Because I don't have to get to know a bunch of cunts I don't like on a forum

So I'm doing an alternate flavor arch-vile, and I'm thinking he should be lightning themed, largely, but what should his attacks be?

I'm thinking his main attack should be similar enough to a normal vile, except instead of surrounding you in flames and then blowing you up, I'm thinking he coats you in lightning that does tiny gradual damage every other tic, then hits you with a thunderbolt as the attack finishes (breaking the line of sight preventing this).

I'm wondering also if he should be able to raise dead enemies (possibly by zapping their corpses), or if he should have an alternate attack.

>>4101074
You could likely make great use with the Arc of Thunder from Hexen.

>>4101078
What the fuck is that?

>>4101079
it's actually the arc of death
but it's a weapon that launches lightning bolts that lock onto enemies and pin to them, spraying them with lightning the whole while

pretty metal weapon
could probably be useful for your lightning lock-on idea

>>4101053
>>4101056
This.

As much as anonymity can allow people to be dicks, I feel it makes us all more open to be honest, direct and equal to one another. I value that.

>>4101083
I guess maybe I could make it inherit it's behavior.

There is now a kinda sorta working menu that demonstrates the basic idea. I ended up having to go the titlemap route for the menu background which is something entirely new to me. Anyways, progress is happening.

>>4101090

Looks like it could be really cool with some graphics.

>>4101092
I have graphics for it, I just have to run some numbers to put them where they need to be.

I'm not sure if I should go forward with this or consider a different effect. I'll post another webm in a bit showing a different idea i have in mind

>>4101101
Rather than have plain text messages to explain weapon effects, why not have a little buff icon or graphic of some kind that indicate fist attacks build mana? That was one little detail in Space Hunter that kind of bugged me.

>>4101105
Because I'm not about to cram the HUD to the brim with 8+ different icons, I spent like 2 weeks making the HUD clearer compared the jumbled mess that was the old HUD. Plus in the past I've had a lot of people get confused as to what powerups do what in older versions of GMOTA, and combined_arms, so I've had to kinda just flat out explain stuff to people.

>>4101018
>showed Mecha Hitler in the new Wolfenstein trailer?
What trailer?
Does anyone have it?

>>4101112
maybe use this hand sprite?

>>4101119
Oh hey I've been looking for that. Yeah, lemme recolor it and I'll get that in.

>>4101120
thanks. that Hexen style hand cut off began to trigger me.

>>4101121
You and me both. Though there's a few other sprites that have cut off that I'm not sure if I can fix.

>>4101121
>what you don't want to see when you light the stove

>>4101090
>INSTANT ACTION
[UT2004 intensifies]

>>4101119
>>4101121
Hey look, full arms!

>>4101148
good.

post doom gifs

>>4101163

>>4101163

>>4101163
shame you can't post multiple pictures in one post

>>4101179
who is the girl?

>>4101182
Thi Barret from ROTT

>>4101182

Thi Barrett from Rise of the Triad

>>4101183
>>4101184
cool. thanks.

>>4100995
if i remember well, D3BFG isn't moddable. it comes with it's own flashlight on weapons (duct tape mod?) thing, but it also messes with some things (you have a lot more ammo pickup, i think)
also, the original wads have a few extra levels that you can find elsewere (look for nerve.was or nrftl+.wad) on top of having some sound pitch issues and yeah, censorship on the nazis and medikits (and i'm 99% sure that it can make multiplayer fail)

really, just grab the iwads from here and send 20 bucks to romero or carmack when you can.

>>4101163
Fresh off the presses.

>>4101194

>>4101163
i have after effects open and im bored.
will do gif edits like this
>>4101169
>>4101171
>>4101174
>>4101176
>>4101178
>>4101179
>>4101181
just post the gif and i will do it.

>>4101198

>>4101198

>>4101198
Replace the baseball with a lost soul.

Is it me or is Wrath of Cronos unbalanced as fuck? I barley have enough health or mana to get through the first few levels of any typical megawad. I'm glad discs of repulsion aren't littered everywhere anymore, but they were better than nothing

>>4101201

>>4101067
"The monsters appearing in this book are all male. The presentation involves male on male action."
Oh. So that's what you meant by that pic.

>>4101208
I think the newer versions are rebalanced for coop

>>4101218
It was strangely fitting, might as well use it.

>>4101203
done.

>>4101235

>>4101018

>Was anyone else bummed out that they showed Mecha Hitler in the new Wolfenstein trailer? Just before they show the robo dinosaur you can see homeboy fighting something that looks just like the old boss. Why do trailers always spoil things?

Fuck you for getting my hopes up.

I hope your parents die.

>>4101237
Is... is that cat eyes on a dog? This is really upsetting to me.

I was watching evolution of the wad last night and got an oc donut steel idea for a map that uses the Dead Simple functions.
>player starts in a room with a locked door to the exit and the different types of monster corpses in a row with empty spots where arachnotron and mancubus should be
>you have to go through the open-ended sandbox map and hunt down the single fatty and spider, and then you can leave

>fucking around with quake idbase textures
>there's like five different types of the normal 'triangle wall' texture- flat, flat rusted, thin horizontal stripes, thick horizontal stripes, and squared
>none of them match properly with each other, and only certain detail textures for computers/walls/etc were made for certain wall patterns, despite them all being essentially the same fucking thing
>decide to mash them together and fill out the missing texture types
>constantly losing which editor tab is which because when upscaled they're all fucking tan and brown messes
I'm drowning in pixels, send help and a kick in the ass to whoever painted these.

>Map 10 of Reverie
This key and switch hunting is so goddamn boring, holy shit.

>>4101264
The guys on Evolution of WAD sound really annoying, I can't really put my finger on why. Especially the guy with beer.

>>4101212
>>4101235
Man these are so smooth, I like it.

>>4101198
This with an Arch-Vile, just cut out his pixely head and scale it up.

>>4101320
ok doing this one.

>>4098919
How the fuck are you supposed to pronounce this niggu's name?

>>4101329
ask romero

>>4101329
Chub-Nigg-oo-rath, at least is how i think it is.

>>4101329
>shub nig-gu-ruff
or
>shub nig-gur-raft

I dunno

>>4101329
shhhuhhhhhb-niggawrath
it's amazing id didn't get a letter from the naacp

>>4101273
>Especially the guy with beer.

Whats wrong with MTrop?

>>4101345
In my opinion, only thing missing from him would be if he ate during podcasts and smacked like a fucking monkey.
In my ears he just sounds like a guy I wouldn't like to be around, alcohol or not.

>>4101329
Shibe cmonBruh

>>4101329

Shub nig-gu-rath. Really, you pronounce it exactly as it's written.

>>4101198
Perhaps something with this?
doomguy versus revenant?

>>4101329
xylophone

>>4073747
This looked better in my head

>>4101373
Give it an olive green tint.

>>4101320
sorry that it took a while.
>>4101371
ok i will try.

>>4101379
Like this?

>>4101385
looks jank to be honest.

>>4098926
>No SJ-Doom mod.

>>4101346
>In my ears he just sounds like a guy I wouldn't like to be around, alcohol or not.
He sounds pretty chill, to me.

>>4101235
heh, nice job

>>4101390
make up your mind

>>4101383
Looks great, thank you!

>>4101385
Yes, like that. What are you working on exactly?

Which version of ZDL works with the latest version of GZDoom?

>>4101432
they should all work, I have a bunch of gzdoom versions available on my zdl

>>4101423
See >>4073747
Just messing around with the Kirby mod concept and GB colours, really. I'm already busy with my first mod so I dunno when I'll get around to fleshing it out, it could be neat though.

>>4101439
Is there a proper download link that still works?

>>4101456
nevermind, found one.

>>4101543

>>4101336
>>4101329
better ask lovecraft than romero

http://lovecraft.wikia.com/wiki/Shub-Niggurath

>>4099561
i just took another look at this. i can confirm the one you want to keep is the one from /idgames, with the later date, and smaller filesize.

the difference is that in the one from the official site, E3M9 has linedefs 890 and 904 superimposed. this is a bug which can cause walls to not be drawn properly. in the later version line 904 is deleted, which caused a bunch of other stuff to get renumbered and made it hard to see what had actually changed.

>>4101582
thanks for taking the time to check that
well that solves the mystery

>>4101402
Be real, we'd probably get a PersonaDOOM first.

just played this game for the first time ever. fuck man its cute.

Made a tiny mod that standardizes difficulty skill levels and explicitly explains them.

https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=46&t=57135

>>4101641
some of those sound like daft punk songs lol. what's tough represent? i know fast monsters but is tough some zdoom thing?

>>4101645
tough = 2x monster health.

Some weapon gameplay mods are a bit extra powerful, so this is an extra mode that slightly compensates for that. Or if you just want a slightly harder challenge.

>>4101651
right i figured it would be something like that. i sometimes wish vanilla had that kind of option, instead of respawning monsters, which are annoying and are why i've never had much interest in playing on nightmare skill.

Dammit

>>4101701
Dammit

>>4101701
>>4101707
Dammit

>traipsing through abandonware games
>get this

this is why doom was king, huh?

>>4101712
is this a cylon or a terminator?

>>4101712
http://www.3dshots.nl/Archive/Spel_Dukescrew.htm

>>4101701
>>4101707
>>4101709
Dammit

>>4101701
>>4101707
>>4101709
>>4101718
...Dammit

>>4101701
>>4101707
>>4101709
>>4101718
>>4101720
Fucking hell

I'm working on something. Can you guess what?

>>4101727
Kenshiro?

>>4101723
what skill level are you playing on? the distance you have to run depends on it (higher skills add obstacles to block off shortcuts)

>>4101717
>lengthy blog
> no dl link

>>4101735
UV, I know that normal for Scythe isn't UV like it is for everything else, but goddammit I've gotten this far already, I'm not going to pussy out now.

>>4101390
Yeah playing the game through essentially a pee filter isn't fun.

>>4101736
There's one on legendsworld.

>>4101373
>>4101385
>>4101748
I think the textures would need to be designed specifically for monochrome for it to look good.

>>4101734

YOU GUESSED RIGHT

I want to work on a smaller project while making my own game, so I'm mixing my love for FoTNS and Doom together and aim to create a short Action Doom-y experience. Of course I can't promise anything. I do this stuff just for the funsies.

Oh and here's a cel-shading test. I wanna go with the show's style. I'm gonna make most of the textures by taking screenshots of the show, huehue.

>>4101754
Yeah, no way am I redoing every single doom texture, though. This works well enough for me.

>>4101776
you can use those *ahem*HD textures

>>4101212
Amazing.

>>4101641
What problem was there in the first place to make this? It looks like you've added more difficulties rather than standardising them (and what's overkill mode supposed to be?)

>>4101787
>HD Game Boy
The horror

How come in MetaDoom, the axe appears first before the chainsaw, when i press 8?

>>4101812
i don't know what determines the order if two or more weapons share the same slot. i've had this trouble with other mods. it certainly doesn't seem to be user configurable.

>>4101801
what is that monstrosity

somebody here has the OP Quake pastebin?

>>4101917
Did you try... scrolling up to the OP?

>>4101920
obviously is not working this is why i'm asking for a alternative link

>>4101921
Works just fine for me.

for me is the only page expiring everytime , just won't load, anyways somebody knows a alt. link?

Any decent weapon mods for Heretic?
I decided to play it again, and spice it up with some guns, and turns out there isn't much to choose from. Copy-paste weapons from Doom, and same with Quake. There's Guncaster and Brutal Heretic, which left me with nothing but bad taste, and that's pretty much it.

Anyone?

why would there be an alt link when the one we already have is working perfectly fine!?

https://a.uguu.se/waaN8oz4aWZ7_ezestquakepasta.txt

>>4101943
Samsara?

>>4101943
>Guncaster
>Bad taste
Why so?

>>4101952
don't get me wrong, it's well made, just not for me. Too much egde. At least it's not as tasteless as Brutal Whatever.

>>4101963
Edge?

>>4101963
i can understand it not being for you, given how overpowered it is to the point of negating all challenge

but "edge" is not the term for guncaster

>>4101965
>>4101967
didn't mean to offend, let's just drop this topic

>>4101943
Shooting Monsters With Guns

it's kind of primitive even for its time, but still one of my favorite weapon mods

>>4101968
Not offended, I'm just curious how edgy could be used to describe it. Since that's the last thing I'd associate with Guncaster.
If anything, it felt like OC power-wank to me, not edge.

>>4101943
Order and Chaos is an alright weapon pack for Heretic, though with difficulties it provides by default your experience will be between "too fucking easy" and "race against time" as you navigate through levels while fighting enemies that respawn, all while your health slowly wastes away.

>>4101972
looks pretty fun, but can't find download link that works. They're either dead, or redirect me to some shady sites deep in Motherland.
How big it is? If small, could you up it on mediafire?

>>4101993
https://my.mixtape.moe/ahtsvv.zip
Here's a modified version I made to fix a couple of bugs and to split the custom monsters out so it's compatible with other monster mods.

>>4102009
SMWG DM is ridiculously fun

>>4102009
thanks. Looked few youtube videos meanwhile, and it looks freaking awesome. Looking foward to play it.

Wew, almost done

>>4102026
>755
Uhoh

>>4102026
get ready for an insane map

>>4102026
you got past 28? nice

>>4102040
it took me far too long to notice the similarity with the start of E4M2.

>>4102042
Just barely, only managed to get through because I started the level with 200 health and could body the damage long enough to get through the exit
also
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

Since I'm failing horribly, I'd like to know what the general strategy should be to tackle map 30 if you kinda suck and have been barely scraping by up to that point? Is it more about running around and letting monsters infight, or methodically taking out each room before moving on to the next?

>>4102070
correct, take each room one at a time

>>4101981
looking remotely dark = edgy to /v/irgins

>>4102070
there's a handy monster blocking line in the corridor to the right of the start area, and a secret area immediately inside said corridor which you can use as cover. this lets you clear the start relatively safely. don't go too far down that corridor though else you trigger a door with a load of revenants+archviles behind it.

>>4102086
But Guncaster is edgy, it's designed to be an edgy deviantart character blowing up demons/ghosts/liches etc.

>>4102116
again, how is it edgy

I'm sick and on bed guys, what .wad should I play?..

>>4102126
Giant guns, excessive gore, main character is powerful beyond belief. I honestly think you're just being pedantic here.

>>4102130
play quake

>>4102132

I have quake too

>>4102130
dawn of the dead.
https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom/d-f/dodead

>>4102131
none of those are edgy, dude

i don't think you know what edgy means

>>4102131
>Giant guns
>Main character is powerful beyond belief

That's not edgy, dude.
Do you think Ratchet and Clank is edgy?

Thought it would be cool to take one of my old Heretic maps (using Baker's legacy texture pack) and try to make it work for Doom. I feel like Heretic's art style would clash badly with Doom's enemy/weapons. Thoughts so far?

>>4102140
see
>>4102086

>>4102139

let's see

>>4102140
No, I don't think YOU know what edgy means. I think you're just deliberately being retarded for the sake of argument.

Edgy
Adjective. Taking coolness to its extreme and generally beyond the realm of actual possibility, while at the same time seemingly unaware of how ridiculous it is.
>>4102141
It certainly was when it came out, I'm pretty sure you're confusing edgy with something totally different.

>>4102092
That's definitely helping.
Also, is using the invuln to take out the revenant archvile closet to the right of start and the two cyberdemons down that way a good use of it, or do I NEED it for something else?

>>4102151
>Adjective. Taking coolness to its extreme and generally beyond the realm of actual possibility, while at the same time seemingly unaware of how ridiculous it is.

this is not the definition of edgy

>>4102151

UrbanDictionary is not actually a good resource, friend.

>>4102151
please do not refer to urbandictionary for your definitions, they literally make words and definitions up

>>4102151
>he uses urbandictionary for his definitions

It's okay, dude. You're wrong on the internet. It's fine to have an incorrect definition about a mod for a 23-year-old game on a taiwanese basket-weaving forum.

>>4102157
>>4102158
>>4102159
Define it then cunts.

I just finished Ancient Aliens. What a fucking amazing WAD. Best I've ever played. Such a wholesome, funny, pretty, lengthy, girthy, moist and jazzy experience.

NOW WHAT WILL I DO WITH MY LIFE

ARE THERE MORE WADS LIKE THIS

>>4102162
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/edgy

>>4102162
Webster defines it as "having a bold, provocative, or unconventional quality", and the keyword here is "provocative".
It's something that's intended to "provoke" people, and does so very badly.

>>4102162
something that tries to provoke people and fails because it's really fucking bad at it

i.e. rootpain is edgy

>>4102165
>>4102167
Would you say that Postal isn't edgy then, since it generally succeeds at being crude and offensive?

>>4102162
DmC: Devil May Cry is edgy because it's trying way too fucking hard to be provocative and grim.
DMC is not edgy because it is not trying to be provocative and grim.

>>4102164
You do realize Guncaster fits that even better than the other one right?
>>4102165
Do you even know what provocative means? I don't really think you do.
>>4102167
>>4102169
>the inverse of edgy
And here we have the guys who're convinced the other person is wrong while also being wrong.

>>4102168
Postal 2, not really at all. It's taking the piss, sometimes quite literally. It's making a mockery out of everything.

>>4102170
>And here we have the guys who're convinced the other person is wrong while also being wrong.
sshhh

it's time to stop

hmmm, something tells me this guy is posting in bad faith... i can't place my finger on what tho...

>>4102175
Nice argument fag

>>4102170
Please explain how Guncaster is intended to provoke people.

>>4102178
Provocative doesn't just mean provoke to anger you dumbass, it means create some kind of emotional reaction in someone. In this case Guncaster is a power fantasy and is made to provoke feelings of invulnerability and, well, power.

>>4102170
>You do realize Guncaster fits that even better than the other one right?
>having a bold, provocative, or unconventional quality
it's not bold, it's not provocative, or unconventional

>>4102181
>it means create some kind of emotional reaction in someone.
That's EVOCATIVE

Back in my day, we called it tryhard.

>>4102164
By this definition, even something universally accepted as being edgy, like F.A.T.A.L. wouldn't be considered edgy.

>>4102182
>Flying a deviantart OC around shooting giant guns and hucking magic isn't unconventional
>>4102183
https://www.merriam-webster.com/thesaurus/provocative
Consider tying a noose and using it. Yes I'm being provocative.

>"edgy" is if it makes you feel powerful

Man, I can't believe Chex Quest is edgy.

>>4102191
>Flying a deviantart OC around shooting giant guns and hucking magic isn't unconventional
in doom?
no, it really isn't

>>4102191
>Consider tying a noose and using it. Yes I'm being provocative.
lmao, this is your argument, now? damn, that's edgy.

>>4102154
all the maxdemos i've watched seem to save it for the red key, but that's to push for time and BFG two cyberdemons up close in the dark.

so no i don't think you !!!NEED!!! it anywhere especially if you're playing slowly. although there's a lot of places where it would be a nice-to-have obviously.

>>4102191
>Consider tying a noose and using it. Yes I'm being provocative.

>>4102195
>>4102197
>one minute apart
Fuck off. You have nothing to contribute. Read the definition you waste of space.
>>4102194
Then please describe something unconventional.

>>4102198
>one minute apart
it wasn't even
lol

>>4102169

More importantly, DMC isn't edgy because it's very self-aware and the crazy over the top stuff is purposely made funny instead of an angry teen yelling "fuck you" at demons. DmC: Devil May Cry is self-aware to some extent, but the grim setting and ludicrous swearing and tasteless teen jokes still makes it edgy.

i thought you people were smarter than this

>>4098919
so i read the OP but i'm having trouble regarding info on quake 3 online, i want to play with some friends quake 3, some of us have steam and have quake live and we play there but we have some friends who can't spend money on it, so i want to host a server and play there, i checked the links but apparently ioquake doesn't have a dedicated server option for windows, what should i do? also can i import the steam maps to the original quake?

>>4102139

I was memed into that starting point, was I?..

>>4102163

pls rebly

>>4102163
>>4102228

Skillsaw's other wads might be a starting point, they play quite similar.

>>4102231

thnak

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1__VGCe96Y

What map is this guy using? I like how it's kind of like a metro station at 3:30 and want to get it so I could use it as reference material.

are quake 2 and 3 fun

>>4102254
yes and yes, though quake 3 is multiplayer focused

>>4102253
Looks like one of the early Scythe 2 maps

>>4102224
i just have fond memories of playing dodead on a sunny but freezing cold winter morning, while being hungover. that's why i suggested it. the secret level which has nice outdoor shadowcasting is especially nostalgic.

>>4102258
It is. I searched through some screenshots of the original 2005 release, it's the 4th map. Thanks for helping me find it.

>>4102278
No problem

>>4102254
For about 30 minutes each

>>4102305
Alright, everyone that only plays Doom and Doom spinoffs need to get over the hating Q3A meme. If not for Quake Live, I would never have played Quake 1, and by extension, I would've never gotten into playing Doom mods. Q3A is solely responsible for my interest in 90s FPS and I love that dark, industrial metal multiplayer gorefest to death. Fuck the hate this game gets!