/vr/ - Retro Games

=== CURRENT EVENTS ===

QUMP
-Still one map left to be finished
-https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Zlfb2U2VCeS70uS6Klc2ZEOC9KtnYyCyBXEmeetjh0c/edit
-https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mp_ZqCZPJKk

OP
-2016 torrent of idgames archive is gone; needs replacement?
-Looking for more unique images to start each thread with

=== NEWS ===

[7-2] scalliano's SUPER Shuffle released
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=56220

[7-1] Doom Retro 2.5 released
https://www.doomworld.com/profile/13784-bradharding/?status=1728077&type=status

[6-29] Wildweasel releases No Shotguns For You 2, replacing all shotgun-related entities with automatics
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=57073&p=1006547

[6-26] Russian Overkill 2.5 released
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=29915&start=1365#p1005931

[6-25] BloodGDX updated to 0.769, improves mouse control
http://m210.duke4.net/index.php/files/viewdownload/9-java/50-bloodgdx

[6-24] Spaceman333 released a Slo-Mo addon
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=57013

[6-24] Anon release; Lawgiver weapon
https://www.dropbox.com/s/f0mph24m8vglyu8/lawgiver.pk3?dl=0

[6-24] TerminusEst's pre-release of High Noon Drifter, a ZScript-driven mod
https://www.dropbox.com/s/in25xkxxr2wxe6t/HighNoonDrifter.pk3?dl=1

[6-20] Anon shares some stuff about ZScript HUDs
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1WmmsefkkMHMz1EN_3F-Y3_NR94uFr-2xxVJ7VvlJyPA/

[6-19] New Intermission and Evolution of the WAD podcasts
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ApNaH3c9Q2c
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nTOWTMOa1os

[6-19] Top HP Bars; a small plugin that displays monster health bars
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=46&t=56910

[6-17] Build DOSBox launchers added to the OP
http://buildgamedosboxlaunchers.weebly.com/

=== PREVIOUS ===

http://pastebin.com/PZDkqABT

=== PROTIP ===

If you would like to submit any news or your personal map or mod releases here, or want to contribute to the OP, please reply/backlink to the OP or this post.

>>4094251
Err am I missing something? Doom Enhanced's monsters don't seem to be crushable, tried zombies, imps and mancubi. Something may have broken with the mod in later GZDoom versions or something.

Wonder how this guy bit it. There's nobody, or nothing here who would have killed him, and everything looks clean.

>>4094278
Uh, couldn't tell you, doesn't do that for me.

>>4094279
The fuck was that noise, did I do that?

>>>/wsg/1761129
>Doom Enhanced pinkies

>>4094291
You should hear the arch-vile.

>>4094282
What version of (G)ZDoom do you use? as for Doom Enhanced, I used the download link for the "Final" version in the first post of Kinsie's forum thread.

>>4094295
Really fucking old version actually, so it's possible that Graf broke something somewhere.

>>4094283
Is that a TV? Standing in water?

>>4094297
>Graf broke something
Yeah, I can't use the mod's fist weapon either.

>>4094278
Their enhanced skeletons prevent crushing.

The new Call of Doom looks promising and looks to have much better weapon rips than the RGA mods ever had, but did the guy really have to put a scope on every gun?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hCY52focgfI

>>4094297
>>4094304(me)
Oh, thanks for trying to help, at any rate!

>>4094302
It was in fact not a TV.

>>4094310
It was not a TV at ALL.

>>4094321
This kind of looks like... oh.

>>4094335
What wad, you wad?

What is the largest height an actor can have without being stuck in your average map's ceiling?

i wonder if someone could port some warframe enemies (like the grineer grunt or the juggernaut) using the tutorial in >>4089998

What is going on in Blade of Agony 1 + 2 that makes frames drop so hard when looking in specific directions? Is it GZDoom chugging dick on reflections or something else? I'm not quite sure what to turn down/off.

>>4094335
I hope there's no more arch-viles when I get back to the 'normal' world.

>>4094345
TNT Revilution, kind of devised as a sequel of sort to TNT Evilution (Final Doom), and it's not bad, some of the levels are really good, but fairly little of it feels like TNT at all.

>>4094363
I guess maybe this path leads somewhere? It looks like it branches out into the void forever

what is this image blogging?

>>4094304
How do you even make that not work?
It should work with current Decorate logic.

GIVE ME AN IDEA FOR A QUAKE MAP
I'M GONNA STOP PROCRASTINATING

>>4094445
Green Hill Zone

>>4094445
Slavic city hell murder death area

>>4094445
Foresty cliffsides full of zombies?

>>4094450
This, with lots of fog. The first few encounters consist of dogs, then it's some vores with lots fiends.

Or alternatively just fiends. Fiends everywhere.

>>4094443
Doom Enhanced has its own "DoomGuy" class with starting items "Pistol" and "Fist" (which don't have weapon slots assigned), but the mod's actual weapons are "Fist2" and "Pistol2", which aren't given to the player. I guess Player.StartItem used to account for actor replacements? It doesn't now.

Im playing japanese community project, im stuck in the dark room with the 4 corner switches for the fucking 4 layer blast door, HELP

>>4094465
don't touch the shadows

>>4094468
the shadows ARE EVERYWHERE, the whole room is in darkness

>>4094465
JPCP had some stupid and silly gimmicks. Sadly, despite the "Kill 13 Keens" map looking pretty great, the gameplay of the level itself was kinda "Eh"

>>4094470
he meant the flashing segments on the floor

>>4094363
>but fairly little of it feels like TNT at all.

Have to agree. The overall colour scheme of TNTR's maps remind me more of stuff like Memento Mori 2 and Requiem.
Theres also a few too many large levels. I really don't get why there are people who remember TNT for large levels. Outside of the Drake O'Brien maps, and Map18, its mostly small-medium sized levels.

>>4094512
>Outside of the Drake O'Brien maps, and Map18
Map25 was also large, but yeah. First half overall has no large levels whatsoever.

Who uses tape reel computers in this day and age?
Whatever future year this is.

>>4094512
It had tighter levels yeah, with a lot more moody and dark music at times.

That's why I liked Map 12 a lot, though it was pretty vast, it was a bit tighter in the quarters and it was very moody and dark, even had that dual reality thing from Wormhole.
Bit ambush heavy though.

Overall, I could definitely recommend it, but not on the premise that it's a lot like TNT, because it pretty much isn't.
I remember playing a 4 level demo of another TNT sequel a while back, whatever happened to that? I recall liking it a lot and getting way stronger TNT feels from it.

>>4094526
TNT2 is still in development. Though that old demo is very dated now, especially since it was from before the split.

>>4094445
Make a map that makes fun of QUMP.

>>4094531
Oh right, I forgot about all that stuff.
Why did they split and what's taking so long?

>>4094538
It already exists, it's that one map from Scourge of Armagon with the monorail and the Vores.

because you spend the whole fucking map WAITING

>>4094542
A lot of people wanted to do large drake o'brien maps, but not everyone agreed. The biggest spark that made the split happen was someone making modifications to anothers map without permission, resulting in drama. So that someone started TNTR, and the people who wanted to do large maps moved over to there. Not sure if all this is correct, but thats my understanding.

>>4094445
An inverted castle

Y'know, if *I* had a screensaver like this, I'd never hear the end of it from HR.

>>4094559
>A lot of people wanted to do large drake o'brien maps
I'm like almost halfway in and I don't think there's a single map in there that feels at all like his style.

>>4094558
I'd be funnier if it was a walking simulator map of corridors filled with skeletons of the poor souls that died waiting.

And at the end, the player will encounter the last surviving fan who's gone mad and yells constantly QUMP WHEN?

Gameplay wise, its a like a final boss map, where there is a long walk of anticipation, then a final confrontation with an epic ending.

>>4094565
Its more the size of the maps, than the style. Drake O'Brien made the largest maps in TNT.

>>4094571
So is that why it's nothing like TNT despite being presented as such?

>>4094580
Well, that, and the fact that they were making a sequel, not a twid.

>>4094591
I guess? But Plutonia 2 and PRCP both feel very much Plutonia in style.

>>4094216
Been trying to post for a couple hours now, keep getting connection errors, wonder if it's the post itself.

>>4094565
Wait wait wait... where am I? Am I still in the milkyway? Could I even see another galaxy with my naked eye like this, this clearly and this close, if I was in the Milkyway, much less on a Jovian moon?

>>4094445
abandoned techbase with sections taken over by elder gods

>>4094564
A castle turned on it's side.

>>4094609
Elder gods temple taken over by techbase

>>4094564
>>4094620
Ranger can't double/super jump or turn into a bat, though

>>4094634
speaking of which
why is term named after that poison sword that i never got, that probably sucks compared to the super fire sword that blows up half the fucking screen

>>4094634
floating platforms

>>4094570
>don't have the time/skill to make a full walking simulator
>decide to make a compact shitpost map
>an hour later and all I've done is detail a computer desk
FUCK.

DOOB

>>4094637
terminus est is a very common latin phrase

>>4094637
It's a really good sword
So is Marsil

>>4094637
>>4094695
>not the heaven sword
>not the duplicator with maximum throwing weapon spam
You guys are dorks.

>>4094697
I can't think of any other sidescroller which lets you break the game balance so brutally without the input of a cheatcode.

>>4094634
You could make it a destroyed castle and put some rubble around to climb on

>>4094637
>>4094692
so it's not "terminus's mod emporium, est[ablished] 2013"? i've been reading it wrong forever

here's 4 demos for that oblige wad posted yesterday
>>4092948

https://a.uguu.se/RjdttcvRzDjg_OB4_11RA01-1226.lmp
https://a.uguu.se/5CvH6U2O6sdg_OB4_11RA02-1002.lmp
https://a.uguu.se/jU8cUC2MFz1B_OB4_11RA04-1105.lmp
https://a.uguu.se/Nhublt3XQvgP_OB4_11RA05-1624.lmp

>>4094279
Anon, what's that wad?

>>4094789
TNT Revilution with a modified version of Immoral Conduct I believe

>Map requires you to find a secret

Is it possible to copy the arch-vile fire attack beat for beat and give it new graphics and sound while keeping the regular one on the normal arch-vile?

>>4094845
Nevermind, I should check the wiki before asking these questions.

>>4094797
>walking through a mandatory corridor unlocks 15 secrets in succession

>>4094773
Did you use any mods or just vanilla?
(I wanna watch, but gotta know if any mods were used so I wouldn't be out of sync.)

>>4094278
>>4094291
>>4094295
Is doom enhanced any good?

>>4094881
they're plain -complevel 9 demos.

>>4094883
It's kind of ok, I guess.

>>4094595
Actually, Plutonia 2 and PRCP have a lot of differences to Plutonia itself. Plutonia maps are usually fairly small and methodical, and often took ideas directly from doom 1 and 2's maps. Where as Plutonia 2 and PRCP have a lot of big chaotic levels, and takes a lot of gameplay cues from Alien Vendetta and Kama Sutra. Though I will give you that they do a better job of keeping the same kind of color scheme of Plutonia itself, than TNTR does with TNT.

>>4094883
It's old and outdated, maybe look at Re-Doom: Enhanced Evolved instead (it's less old)
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=45&t=26656

>any texture starting with sky in quake loads as a skybox texture
>skybox textures 'eat' projectiles and prevent particle effects from appearing on impact for hitscan weapons
>somehow something's gotten fucked up that's causing the skybox to act like a standard texture, including weapons leaving particle effects and having rockets explode on contact
>it's not even limited to custom maps, it's happening in bone-stock id1 maps on a fresh install
What in the goddamn? Did I remember wrong this whole time and skyboxes never acted that way, or what?

Ayyy I got the crushable+shootable corpses to work in the end.

>>4094278
Strange, all actors in ZDoom have a generic Crush state that turns them into a pool of blood. It's possible the modders defined their own Crush state and didn't really add anything to it or maybe they forgot to put a Stop keyword at the end of it.

Or maybe it has something to do with ZScript, I don't really know anything about it.

>>4094936
I really can't figure it out, Kinsie didn't replace the Crush state, the Death states seem fine, and the edited monsters are inherited from their originals, too.

>>4094936
>>4094964
Ohh, the default Crush actor was replaced, this probably fucked up and made all monsters un-crushable in current GZDoom.

How come there are no good Doom mods for Stalker and no good Stalker mods for Doom

>>4095124
The last hub of A Morte is S.T.A.L.K.E.R. based. Complete with some of the voice acting and radiation.

Stalker could definitely be done in doom.

>>4094928
You're fixing Enhanced, right? You best share that shit nigger.

>>4094913

I like how a bunch of people are like "yeah I'm so hardcore I can totally beat <difficult map> with Hideous Destructor".
There's never a video or stream. In fact almost nobody dares to record HD. My guess is that they aren't so tough and they abuse savestates like little bitches.

>>4095265
I don't even get the appeal of Hideous Destructor

>>4095269
I think it sucks too, but some guys are like "I'm the ultimate badass for playing HD" but I think they are just bluffing. They act like if they were super elite military pros but I think they can't even finish a level without savescumming or being unable to withstand that stupidly slow moving speed and "realistic" (lol yeah right) mechanics for more than one map at a time.

Another day, another Alien Vendetta map. Join the fun! Even if you start out late, I won't complain if you post about maps I've already finished. Just don't go over the map corresponding to the day in the month. That way you won't burn out. I've played AV about 1/3rd of the way through, but never finished it. That changes this month.

MAP02:
94% Kills
100% Secrets
0 Deaths, but I feel like swiss cheese after all the damage I took from hitscanners. Thank the Doom gods I found all the secrets.

For me the highlight of this map was the pincer attack after you get the yellow key. There's an archvile above you, but there's no way you have the RL/BFG to zerg him quickly yet. Hiding down below seems like a good idea. Then you notice the army of chaingunners on either side of you. I actually took an archvile blast to the face rather than stick around to fight the hitscanners. It was easier to mop them up when I wasn't sandwiched.

Fun fact: I'm carrying over my weapons from level to level, so I missed this health until I came back. It's locked behind a shotgun pickup I just didn't need since I had the SSG from MAP01.

>>4095302
Those chaingunners are actually optional- the closets they're in don't open until/unless you pick up the soulsphere in that room.

is SiN gold worth an dl, or is it another pos on q3a engine?

>>4095435
It's the Q2 engine and it's alright.

>>4095435
I want someone to make a Doom mod where Doomguy punches a rabble rousing sea of lava into submission.

>>4095383
Triggered by the secret? I love it! Punishing the player for picking up goodies has been a doom fetish of mine since I played Going Down.

>>4095485
Wait the soul sphere wasn't a secret was it? I think the blur sphere and green armor were...so confused. Oh well.

https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/94860-rootpain-v2/

are you fucking kidding me

>>4095495

>>4095495

>If you'd taken a step back to re-evaluate you wouldn't have brought this pile of trash back from the dead.

At least somebody gets it.

>>4095495
what is this?

>>4095495
>After a large amount of negative response my classic rivalry received, i took a step back to reevaluate.
That would be a good thing.

>I needed to put myself back on the map with something new but broad.
Yeah!

>so i came up with the idea to create the most disturbing but original mod i could think of,
Oh.

>I needed to gain a reaction from the doom community to go ahead with this idea,
>so one evening i spent roughly 2 hours putting together a mod with as little effort as possible but riddled with hidden messages (13 in total).
Not really selling it with the "as little effort as possible" thing.

>A experiment to see how much controversy i could steer up in the doom community, as expected it received alot of bad attention.
Well it was edgy tripe. And edge doesn't have to be bad even, but Rootpain is like the empty calories of edge, it's just fucking lame.

>People mistook the mod as a scare peace when I wanted to give the player a sense of discomfort, it was quite successful at that which was good news.
It basically felt like someone trying to one-up Ghoul's Forest but with a shitty idea.

>At that point i found a new job an was unable to continue through with it, then it was eventually forgotten..... until now.
What a shame.

>>4095627
A miserable pile of faggotry.

>>4094269

So I'm thinking of making an edited version of Trailblazer and releasing it here; I want to add some more blueprints to it and maybe some tweaks.

My blueprint ideas so far:
>Colt 'Mindfire' Blueprint: Aim at an enemy to have the Colts shoot automatically. Toggle with 'reload'.
>Machete 'Bloodblade' Blueprint: When berserk'd, melee attacks against bleeding targets will have a small chance of restoring a small amount of health, but only up to your current max. The closer it is to max, the less likely it will restore. Toggle with 'reload'.

Other ideas:
>Option in 'Blaze-It' menu to change what happens when you hit 'melee' key; Punch (standard), Machete Swing, Machete Throw, Spikebomb Trigger.
>The Skullthrottle initially must be reloaded; you have to pick up and construct a blueprint to make it fire continuously. Probably call it the 'Championship Belt' or something, in reference to the fact that the ammo comes in belts.

Feel free to submit ideas of your own.

>>4095629
>He made a shitty wad, he must be advocating something, herp dee durr
>MUH BETA, MUG FAGZ

Maybe go peddle this shit on 2^3chan where you'll get a pat on the back and a free cookie

>>4095629
ok thanks anon.

>>4095642
Zygo, pls

>>4095649
>if your reasons for disliking a shitty pseudo-terrywad that tries to make abortion look edgy aren't /pol/shit, you must actually be the author sockpuppeting

WEW
E
W

>>4095659
>/pol/shit
Oh, so you're not Zygo, you're just a generic retard.

>tfw wanting to make a map for use with a weapon and player features and have the general idea down but no idea how to actually execute it and wouldn't even be a big map

>>4095661
He's right that /pol/ is shit though. That's regardless if you agree with that cap or not.

>>4095741
What's /pol/shit? The word faggot? Calling a pathetic shit a beta? I don't think you've been here particularly long if you're making that assessment.

>>4095776
I've been here longer than half of /v/. I know what /pol/shit looks like, trust me.

>>4095279
>>4095265
because maps that would normally take 10-15 minutes to complete in a normal doom run would take you at least a half hour or more in HD depending on difficulty and sheer luck.

I still don't get what you mean by people who bluff about it. I barely even see it mentioned on these threads, and I don't think it's unforgivably bad either. it's an acquired taste.

>>4095495
And to think he was trying to turn a new leaf.

>>4095495
I don't quite understand, someone explain?

>>4095804

Rootpain was bad, made him a laughingstock in how it tried to be so edgy and ended up just being so amateur, and ended up getting him banned when he started harassing its critics.
Then he tried going to Zandronum, where he got banned for sockpuppeting.
Now he's on Doomworld, which is probably the avenue which would be the absolute least favorable to his works.

>>4095804
the video xaser linked in that thread will explain everything.

>>4095815
>Now he's on Doomworld, which is probably the avenue which would be the absolute least favorable to his works
I can only assume he went there out of desperation.

What does the doom thread think of level editors like SLADE or eureka?

>>4095495
so... buttpain V2 soon?

>>4095495
So rootpain was about an abortion?

>>4095845
In a sense.
Also fitting is that rootpain IS an abortion, so it's very symbolic in that way.

>>4095630
what i'd love for trailblazer is a mechanic where if you leave a monster alive in a level, it has a chance to come back in a later level as a stronger miniboss-tier variant
guess you could call that the "tough motherfucker" option

>>4095842
BUTTPAIN 4: ANALOCALYPSE

>>4095815
>I HEARD A SCARY NOISE BUT I DIDN'T MIND IT AT FIRST

>THIS IS WHERE THINGS TRULY GOT SERIOUS

>>4095856
Or the badass like the elite enemies in borderlands?

>>4094269
<<Ehanced image

>>4095151
N-No I was just looking at it since an Anon suggested its crush features to help reach what I was aiming for, but the mod's pretty broken in current GZDoom.

>>4095856
>LoTR:Shadow of Mordor's 'Nemesis' System
>In a doom mod

Hm. You'd have to run an UNLOADING-type script, pull a list of the types of monsters left, randomly pick one type, then have an ENTER-type script in a later level randomly gift the same type of monster with the extra stats/abilities, then rinse and repeat.

I mean, it's not really any different from how most mods do random, more powerful mobs as-is. Unless you code an intro sequence for the monster when it appears.

What do you think of the doom leagacy source port?

>>4095890
i have no idea if it's possible as i'm just an >idea guy
but if you can check (on level load) the number of spawns for each enemy type, then when an enemy dies check it's type, it could be relatively easy to decrease the counters for what enemies are left.
it will probaby cause issues if a level has spawners for custom enemies, or if an enemy spawn is replaced by a swarm (looking at you, Hungry assshole) but other than that, it should be fine, no?

>>4095892

I'm looking at a list of features, and I'm not seeing anything unique.

As it is, you've got Choco and prBoom if you need oldschool compat, GZDoom if you want crazy mod capability, and Zand if you need to play ComplexDoom+LCA+ eighty billion times

>>4095910
Why prBoom/prBoom+ over the original boom?

>>4095842
>>4095860
laundry was rootpain 3: buttpain 2, iirc
now shivers and yholl just need to fucking finish the next laundry

pls yholl

i'll zuck yo dick

>>4095913
Meant to type prBoom+. Anyways, for MBF compat. Original Boom never had that, right?

>>4095914
>now shivers and yholl just need to fucking finish the next laundry

And get DRLA out.

is this the precursor to metadoom?

https://youtu.be/Pi6w5f6gpYs

>>4095930
doubtful

>>4095930
>a doom mod with duke stuff
>being the precursor to a doom mod that takes stuff from every iteration of doom game

now let's all use our heads and think very carefully about this

>>4095930
It is more of a precursor to Samsara, in which the latter is better for obvious reasons.
You could say the precursor to MetaDoom was something like D4D except that MDoom is about the entire franchise, while those mods were always ONE part of the series.

>>4095941
I do like how MD just makes its own hacked together sprites for newere weapons to line up with the classic aesthetic

>>4095941
For thr D4 mods im not asking for a whole new cyberdemon sprite, just some modifications to the existing one, like a blade on the arm and a mossile pod on the back, and a couple animations for the new attacks, just something to help the player not be blindsighted by it

>>4095976
I think it's because Kinise want to represent multiple weapons without actually adding more than one type.
Specially since most are all diverse and have different purposes.

Ghost rider guy here, open to suggestions for enemy composition, as of now im focusing on a D4T style roster, with maybe a couple additions

>>4095495
>Warp to first actual map
>Instant 4 FPS

Why do people do this? Doom is not optimized to handle this much shit.

>>4096006
Is the map "overdetailed" or something?
People seem to forget that the reason for playing Doom is because some people happen to have pc's that can handle that, but not big AAA games.

>>4096006
I still find it funny and somewhat surprising how a stupid random phrase I made up stuck for so long.

Are there more monster replacer/randomizer mods like DRLA monsters? Something which possibly even makes trailblazer challenging? Using DRLA+that expansion but even high noon drifer is bit of a breeze.

>>4096014
The map is packed to the brim with Voxels and it also uses high-res textures. Judging by the single screenshot he provided, the HUD weapons are also 3D models.
This is only the first room in the map, and look at how many voxels there are.

>>4096021
This really needs an engine that doesn't crap itself over voxels.

>>4096021
>not retrieving the screen size/aspect ratio and stretching that gradient graphic to fit it

honestly I don't know what more I should have expected, and fucking hell do those voxel trees look lousy

>>4096021
>using voxels
>to make trees
>a large and common decoration
>in an engine that handles voxels like dogshit and literally renders each voxel as a 1x1x1 box model
>in an engine that slows down to a crawl because of this

>>4096035
You could probably make a pretty good looking tree using voxels, just not like this.

>>4096021
>>4096032
>>4096041
I'm impressed at how fucking clueless this guy continues to be

>>4096021
how did his computer not implode while testing

>>4096032
>>4096041
>>4096046

I wonder if the guy made all these models himself, I want to see them un-voxelized at any rate (WHY ARE THEY VOXELS TO BEGIN WITH).

>>4096032
>still using voxels
>he hasn't embraced actual models and moved on to id tech

How hard do I need to punch Graf in the dick to get him to make skies work on 3D floors?

>>4096058
>post deleted

>>4096021
i've heard of green hell but not like this. & is that a vietnamese girl?

>>4096063
God damn it. Every time I get an idea of something cool to do, it either ends up being a gimped version or impossible because Graf hates modders.

>>4096064
I cheated in some infrared goggles because the map is almost completely black. Also, it'd like to add that it only uses dynamic lights as light sources.

>>4096079
>Zygo uses voxels everywhere
>only uses dynamic lights
Might as well develop on unity at this point

>>4096021
>and look at how many voxels there are.
I know quite a bit about voxels and let me tell you there's got to be at least two in that pic

I wonder if this guy's coding at least has impro--

WHAT
THE
FUCKING
BLOODY
FUCK

>>4096095

>>4096095

>>4096095
wh...what's in the wads

>>4096095
Is he trying to do everything as inefficiently as possible?

>>4096095
>zip instead of pk3
>blank SND market
>everything's a wad instead of organized into folders
>INCLUDING THE .INI IN THE FILE ITSELF

You can interact with a camera to save your game. It shows this unskipabble message and freezes the player. The problem is, it never went away and unfrozed me, so I just got stuck here forever.
I would say this is because I'm not playing with the GZdoom version he packaged with the mod if it wasn't for the fact that when I got the knife the pickup message thing worked just fine. I mean, I'd say this is an alpha of the full thing, but how do you fuck up your only means of saving the game? (he removed the "save" option from the menu, so the only way to save is using the cameras or by having menu_save binded)

>>4096095
wew lad

>>4096095
We Temple of the Lizard Men now

>>4096102

Fun is in them, anon.
Fun.

>>4096095
WHY WOULD YOU DO THAT

WHY

W H Y
H
Y

>>4096118
>>4096095

>>4096109
When you have voxels like those barrels at such high resolution, why not just have them be models?

>>4096118
>that formatting

Did we just find someone more incompetent than Mark

WHY, HELLO THERE SPORT. WHATCH'A GOT THERE?

>>4096126
YOU'RE HUGE

THAT MEANS YOU HAVE HUGE BUST

>>4096115
>Temple of the Lizard Men

Isn't that a level from Jill of the Jungle?

>decide to see what the fuck this wad is about
>follow installation instructions
>still get an error

Wow.

>>4096141
>finally get it running

I CAN'T SEE WHAT THESE FUCKING OPTIONS ARE

>>4096145
>hit new game
>it's just default Doom 2

Why do I have to jump through hoops just to get this fucking thing working?

>>4096095
jesus fuck

>>4096147
Is it really worth it, anon? Just let it go.

The new "It" remake looks like shit

>>4096147
Warp to map03

>>4096147
>listmaps in console, see that there's a testmap
>go to it, have to rebind all my controls and enable mouselook and disable lookspring because DESPITE COMING WITH ITS OWN INI IT DOES NOT TAKE ADVANTAGE OF IT
>pick up items and weapons

You used custom 3D models for the weapons and you still don't fucking have widescreen support?

>>4096159

Did he fucking use voxel TEXTURES?!

Has anyone come with Basilissa art yet?

>>4096163
dat bump mapping

>>4096163

Okay, so I see he's doing the shitty version of a flashlight where it's just a bulletpuff and lights up around where it hits.
More bafflingly, it's an inventory item with separate items for toggling on and off.

If you turn on the flashlight, it takes away that item and gives the item for toggling it off. Which means you'll have to scroll through the itemlist again.
Why?

>>4096171
>swapping weapons is done this way as well, rather than the tried and true "next weapon" and "previous weapon"

I see!
But here's a question.
WHY?

>>4096168
the big red one just got made 6 days ago

>>4096163
nam remake for doom when?

>>4096174
>the big red one just got made 6 days ago
I dunno man, people can work pretty fast sometimes.

>>4096174
Oh man that'd be awesome. Actually is there any way to play Nam without using dosbox?

>>4096172

And this is probably the biggest problem with the whole project, all of the voxels.
As mentioned before, the way voxels are rendered is that each separate box of a voxel is rendered as a separate model. I hear there's plans to change this, but it doesn't matter because Zygo is intentionally using an older build of GZDoom from the start of the year, before the 3.0 jump.
This means framerate is going to chug. I simply got to the rest room and I went to a powerpoint slideshow. Now, my computer isn't exactly a beefy powerhouse, but it still stands that THIS IS NOT THE ENGINE YOU WANT TO USE FOR THIS.

Also, witness to the fact the OTHER BIG problem with voxels--for a game like this, lighting is a HUGE key element to it. Voxels are essentially sprite replacements in the same way models are, you set a sprite and the voxel arrangement replaces it. This means you can link various patches of voxels together, but all of them are going to be bordered. For lighting, when a sprite is lit up, it lights up the ENTIRE sprite--and this extends to the voxel as well!
This essentially means lighting effects with voxel textures is going to make it look like a fucking checkerboard, as you see here.

Speaking of buttpain.

I'm still buttpained they deleted Post Hell. It was just the perfect showcase of the things you should not do on Doomworld, or internet forums for that matter.

Which makes me fear that the Solace Dreams thread might get deleted and will be lost like tears in the rain.

>>4096183

But what if I turn the voxels off? Surely Zygo would recognize the engine troubles and provide an alternative option, right?
NOPE.
PITCH-BLACK TEXTURES.

>>4094271
Anxious and bored to tears of waiting for QUMP, Anon makes a tiny joke map emulating his experience.

https://mega.nz/#!lQQSSIjC!TtptcHyxmxi0STHHkYm067tbfCm8yBI77CiIsUIC18k

>>4096189

I literally have 1 FPS with the voxels on.

>>4096194

And with the voxels off there's no indication of what anything is. No placeholder sprites. Nothing.
I'm stumbling blind.

>>4096194
>>4096196
What's the chance he BabyRages and gets banned from Doomworld as a result?

>>4096196

These lighting effects are fucking awful, too! This isn't a torch, this is a fucking lava lamp! Without the fucking lamp! These are crystals straight from the most boring-ass MMO ever!
I feel like an Elf Lord is about to lead me on a mystic quest to teach me the value of friendship or something.

>>4096198
wut Quak mod is dis?

>>4096198

When did this become fucking Hexen 2?
Yeah, this is a really spooky horror mod, guys, we're about to go into the dungeons and fight some fucking slimes and skeletons and shit.
Also bravo on the clipping there, Zygo, your hands are actually higher than their border.

>>4096207

Yeah nah fuck this.

>>4096141
>>4096145
>Why do I have to jump through hoops just to get this fucking thing working?
>GZDoom 2.3.2
Gee Anon I dunno

>Scalliano's 667 shuffle
This is like the lowest-effort trash I've ever played in my life. I was expecting something maybe a bit better balanced than AEoD, but somehow it's almost worse.

>>4096207
>When did this become fucking Hexen 2?

You tell me

>>4096221
Who is this qt?

>>4096223
Hands off my waifu. She's 12 feet tall and she shoots demons

>>4096168
request something

>>4096191
I don't have Quake but I'm just replying because this was kinda lost amongst all the Solace Dreams stuff.

>>4096243
th-thanks

I don't have anything clever to say, I just wanted to post this because it's funny.

>>4096248
HIM BIG

>>4096253
Now I want to see him in that pose.

>>4096248
what is this supposed to be?

>>4096257
Basilissa's brother, before he got his ass kicked and turned into this

>>4096248
Hey it's the disturbing tiny head guy from Battleborn dead game

>>4096261
is this canon?

>>4096261

Man, demons getting shafted seems to be a common theme.

>>4096265
No, it's a cannon.

and yes, Term and I wound up bouncing ideas off eachother and we loved it that much. Though I think his head probably isn't THAT tiny canonically.

>>4096269
gmota and drifter being canon to each other is amusing to me

next up, include hdoom and russian overkill

Where are people getting the solace dreams link? I can't find it anywhere.

>>4096272
>include hdoom
Funny you should mention that, Mystical made me a set of Imptan Maiden sprites for rescuing for GMOTA but I appear to have lost the damn sprites.

>>4096283

poor mystical
so many grand ideas
so little actual output

>>4096286
I genuinely feel bad for losing those sprites, they were excellent.

>>4096287
i think it's a hilarious and appropriate end to his legacy

but lost sprites are always a sad thing

>>4096289
>tfw all he draws are circleheaded blobs now

Is run speed in Trailblazer supposed to be increased? If I load it alone it seems increased, but I swear to god if I load it with DoomKrakken's monster randomizer which is a .pk3 I feel like I'm running even goddamn faster. Is there a zdoom/gzdoom console command I can use to see my speed?

>>4096363
Malcolm moves faster if you have less health.

>>4096369
Oh shit, ok, I'm not crazy. Thanks.

>>4096283
Oh man, I would have loved that!

Is this okay for first attempt at making weapon WAD?
http://www.mediafire.com/file/ag11jp6fu21krba

>>4096395

Nope, terrible. Git gud.

>>4096395

You can condense a lot of the code in Ready to just one line--why not use a simple CFGG ABEC 3 loop with the A_PlaySound calling the Idle sound on loop instead of calling it every time?
Flash state is extraneous, too.

Graphics are neat, I love the design of the gun.

>>4096395
Feels like I'm driving a fucking vehicle man.
Other than that, this is a novel take on a BFG and I like the sounds

>>4096410
That looks like the grips are vertical handles at the top, how is he supporting that monstrosity? With his knees? With his boner?

>>4096410
HELP_BFG?

>>4096419
It's on a shopping cart.

>>4096419
With his angery

>>4096395
WHAT THE FUCK DID WE JUST SAY ABOUT FORMATTING
180+ LINES OF THIS SHIT

>>4096431

>>4096419
There's a smaller demon underneath holding it up, obviously.

>>4096395
looks neat, handles pretty neat if not very simple

work on polishing your code and sprites and this could be the start of something fun

>>4096425
That could work, or maybe it has a SteadiCam-like support mount like the Smartguns in Aliens

>>4096446

So that dude from Vinesauce managed to get his immune system to run Doom? that's awesome!

>>4096446
Emthiccened via Xsplit

>>4096447
lul

Has anyone had a glitch with GZDoom where the Set Video Mode displays no resolutions to pick from no matter how I change the settings?

>>4096441
Talking about Aliens, do you guys think this would fit an Aliens wad?
I'm still not sure what music to put on it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4zpzUe2Exm0

https://my.mixtape.moe/hohalb.webm

One anon pointed out that the rifle-looking scope wasn't too good for the bow and it'd be better to go with something magical.
This good?

>>4096478
looks stylish as fuck, though turn up the transparency just a touch

I want to play pirate doom with a friend

Am I going to have to hamachi this or is doomseeker/zandronum possible? I'm having a shit tonne of problems getting doomseeker to load the pwad instead of just loading doom 2, despite being told to use GZdoom (it does) and the pirate doom pwad.

suffering

>>4096497

Pirate Doom doesn't have a Zandronum-compatible version, so only hamachi can be done, unfortunately.

>>4096464
Sign of Evil is always interesting to run through different soundfonts

>>4096446
What is this?

>>4096478
Stylish, but think the center needs to be a little more clearer. The slit iris(?) could be a little more rounder.

just muh opinon

>>4096502
>Pirate Doom doesn't have a Zandronum-compatible version, so only hamachi can be done, unfortunately.

time to kill myself I guess

Action Doom 3, when?

>>4096021
This ain't Red Alert 2 or Tiberian Sun, what the hell he thinks he's doing?

I'm not gonna say the kid isn't ambitious, but all the voxel shit needs to go if he's gonna do it in GZDoom

>>4096534

Or he could get an engine that isn't plebshit, like BUILD.

>>4096535
I don't expect him to be able to wrap his mind around that.

>>4096535
Pretty sure it'd kill even Build.

>>4096535
or id tech

>>4096536

True, he is your typical doombabby.

>>4096546
Every time you say doombaby, I'm reminded of that Muppet Babies cartoon and its awful theme song.

>>4096552

I'm okay with this.

>>4096552
I'd watch Doom Babies

Models don't work all that bad in gzdoom all things considered. And if the models are optimized instead of being several hundred models with 2000 tris on screen (which would tax even modern engines) it's pretty good desu.

>>4095914
>>4095920
fuk

I can't even bring myself to make a simple projectile right now. Fuck my inconsistent piece of shit motivation, no wonder I never get anything done.

I'm sorry I haven't finished anything in a long time. ;__;

>>4096163
you can do that!?

>>4096589
is ok

i'll still love you <3

>>4096643
Don't do it.

>>4096646

I won't.

>>4096643

Yup, it works great. You should try it.

>>4096649
>>4096653
i can make semi decent looking voxels using magicavoxel, but slab6 doesn't work with my computer for some reason, so even if i wanted to give it a shot...

i mean, it's cool for a proof of concept, does that mean these switches from the voxel pack could be properly added in now?

>>4096658

Yes.

>>4096586
the problem is without proper lighting the tend to look horrendous

>>4096658
Switches would have to be map specific, you'd have to add them into a map manually I'm pretty sure.

>>4096667

Everything looks horrendous in idtech.

>>4095495
Good lord

>>4096681
Doom isn't id tech.

>>4096692

Sure is.

>>4096695
>Google it
>id tech 1 is Doom and id tech 2 is Quake AND Quake 2
>this whole time I was 100% sure the Doom engine was counted separately from the brush-based engines and id tech started with Q1
I am completely astounded to discover this, what in the goddamn? I thought that Berenstein/Berenstain hogery was a bunch of bullshit but I can see where they're coming from now.

>>4096703

I love how it took a shitposter for you to realize this. It *really* tickles my oinkers.

>>4096708
C-can I tickle your oinkers too?

>>4096518
Ey oh, i made a zan compat version a while ago to play with my friends, let me search.

>>4096709

Sure, m80. ;^)

>>4096708
It's not something that's brought up very often- how often do you refer to old engines like that by name, especially when Doom and Quake are so different in terms of asset and map creation? Doom people are more concerned with per-sourceport compatibility where the ports have so many features over the vanilla engine they're practically a new game, and Quake 1ers are basically 'Quakespasm and call it a day.'

We can all agree that HD sprite projects are pretty universally hideous and bad, right?

>>4096718
Isn't Doom modding a choice between vanilla or GZD these days?

I am so glad I could bring this back

>>4096723
There's limit-removing as well.

>>4096720
Yes. They're fucking awful.

>>4096518
>>4096713
Here u go: One zan 3.0 compatible pirate doom.
https://ufile.io/f0mti

>>4096720

Middle looks better than vanilla.

>>4096667
I feel like GZDoom is the only 3D source port that doesn't do vertex lighting on its models.

>>4096730
You say that but see that shit in motion and it'll look janky as shit.

The limited frames and rotation work for the scale of graphics Doom uses, but not for a resolution like that, it'll look like cardboard cutouts walking around, even if you squeezed in more frames.

>>4096720
>The left one

>>4096747
the majority of blox's works, t b h

>>4096667
However something like megaman legends could work pretty well in it.

>>4096006
Whats the actual map?

>>4096734

Nah, you're just assmad.

>>4096734

Nah you're just assmad.

>>4096734

Nah you're just assmad.

>>4096734

Nah, you're just assmad.

>>4096720
>hideous
Hurr

>>4096720
HD sprites: Not Even Once

I dont even know what I'm working on

>>4096779
>>4096768
You're right, I'm jelly of the people putting out masterpieces like these.

>>4096801
make those light beams additive

>>4096765
MAP03 is the first one with something in it. Map02 is just a black room

>>4096828
>That middle Doomguy sprite

>>4096512
Vinny was playing a shovelware collection through a VM that happened to contain a shaeeware version of Doom95, it would appear the VM doesn't play well with the port though.

>>4096828
> noise filter on caco
> copy pasted belt pouches
> lazily rotated hands
> clipa0 slapped on the gun
> helmet from title screen with the rest super blurred

>>4096838
Weird. My version only has map01 replaced.

Would anybody be interested in a karnov wad?

>>4096902
Fuck yeah, can you make that ladder a mechanic too? Like being able to pull a ladder out, climb up it, and then pick it back up to use again later?

>>4096904
Hell yes I'm gonna try to get the ladders

>>4096908
and you must have this after dying
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jO2wyZ-hnqE

>>4096191
Morning bump/qump in case any of the other three people that play Quake are alive.

>>4096926
> low res ranger face
ya did good

>>4096926
HUUUUUH

>>4096902
>nuclear powered superrussian
fuck yes!

>>4096952
Like most russians. Haven't you seen their maps?

Post russian maps.

>>4096720
middle is fine
left is just poorly drawn, that has nothing to do with it being "hd"

>>4096006
>tfw i can run it fine

Still. Voxels are ugly as sin.

>>4096926
Looks awesome man. Will we see you in [spoilerQUMP 2][/spoiler]?

I should buy the old Thief games on Steam or just torrent all them conveniently?

A lot of people complain about how poorly optimized Doom is to put certain content, but we gotta keep in mind that the way that content is handled is usually the opposite of "optimization". Of course an slaughtermap with 2000+ monsters all with 2000 tri meshes on top of 7000+ linedefs and 2000+ explosions and sprites is gonna be pretty taxing even for an optimized engine. It doesn't matter if "it's Doom" if it's just misused.
It actually keeps up pretty decently all things considered.

>>4097056
They're like five buckaroo on steam.

>>4097068
yeah but anyway i think i gonna refund it after reading the OP and knowing all the fix links.

>>4096720
i never looked into it, but this pixel per pixel redraw makes no sense in a esthetical level, looks like the demon is bringing grass in his hand.

>>4097078
A whole weed to blaze.

This is probably the most violent death animation I've made, and I'm very proud of it.

https://my.mixtape.moe/dkpzxc.webm

>>4097083
NO WAY

That skeleton always cracks me up. Never stop doing that.

>>4097083
>NO WAY

>tfw getting a summoner rune right before the most slaughterific part of a map

>>4096936
>>4096937
HEURGH
Why is brush modeling and making things using (mostly) only vanilla textures so fun? I can see why Doom fans get so worked up comparing sector toilets.

>>4097052
If there's ever one before we all die of old age? Absolutely, now that I've got Trenchbroom all worked out, a handful of different, (hopefully) solid map layouts and plans, and a bunch of working setpieces/proof-of-concepts so I don't get screwed over later by designing a whole shebang around something vanilla Quake isn't capable of.

Might just make something on its own, of course, but not many people here play Quake, and func_msgboard is way above me in terms of both skill and circlejerkiness.

>>4097083
if this is a normal monster: way too long and messy

if this is a boss: HOLY SHIT IT'S PERFECT

what the heck is going on with this

>>4097159
Confetti Quake!

>>4094348
I believe its 56, because the barons have (64?) and there are standard doors they cant maneuver under.

>>4097083
Please tell me that thing is your new cyberdemon

>>4097056
I buyed them in gog.com cause ma drm-free games :D

>>4097065
It doesn't help that GZDoom doesn't even support multicore rendering in hardware mode despite working perfectly in software

>>4097159
You're shooting it from the front and you shouldn't do that. His defense screen only works on the front, so get behind him somehow and blow his back out. Maybe shoot some rockets behind him.
> if you get him to reel/flinch, you can get behind no problem.

In terms of aesthetic one thing I hated about Q2 was the lack of sprite based weapon effects, even the bullet piffs were a combination of a 3d model and particles. There should have been some serious high res electric sparking effects (sprite based) being cast off by hitting a defense screen like this.

Also the BFG projectile should have been an Additive Transparency effect instead of a simple translucent (67%), all it does is make it look ghostly and washed out.

I call this the Nintendo 64 syndrome - just because its maxed out 3d that must mean somehow they have to make everything 3d, even when sprites would still provide an even better experience when properly used.
> pic related illustrates this nonsense

>>4097183
> Ive got one core
> so I wouldnt notice

Spoonfeed me some monster wads. Something that adds new cool kinds of monsters without messing with weapons, so you can use it with weapon mods to get a new experience.

>>4097184

Oh, it's been so long since I last played Quake 2 that I thought it was some sort of visual bug. Thanks, buddy.

>>4097159
You can also just overload their shields by shooting them a lot.

Why has never been a community effort to make an actual and semiofficial Doom III as a direct sequel to Doom II?

It could be made as a community contest; everyone can submit their creations under certain guidelines for X months: weapons (1-2 new), enemies (5-6 new + maybe 2-3 bosses), textures, etc... all trying to make something similar as D1->D2. People would vote what they like, always fitting the Doom style and gameplay, trying to expand a bit on it much like the new monsters of D2 did.

After that the same but with the actual maps and last the music for each map and other details like cover art and shit.

>>4097184
and pic related, Additive Translucency has been available in games since at least 1994, within a 256 color palette

>>4097169
Hm that's not much. Oh well, thanks man.

>>4097196
Too busy making map packs I guess?
And stupid shit like Brutal Doom.

>>4097202
Though I would say 60 is a fair assessment since the human size enemies all have a height of 56.

>>4097195
Yes, it provides you a good way to waste extra time and get rid of some railgun slugs (since I always have near maximum RG)

>>4096410
>>4096421
>>4096419

It must have antigravity on it, so the whole thing weighs like 5 pounds even though its like carrying around a chair.

>>4096378
mildly hardening...
> give her the D poster in background
> what did she mean by this... doom?

>>4096378
>>4096283
Who drew them?
Is it impossible to recreate them?

>>4096095
>>4096107

Actually I do this a little bit myself too. I hate calling #include and all this other shit pointing to different text files, I want to handle that coding in slade so I just keep it as lumps. But the only way to make sure they load in order is to save it in a wad, that I put in the pk3. Pic related, I know what each lump has in it.

Speaking of which now that its GZ v3.1... has there been any major differences or updates to the Decorate options since 2.4?

>>4096054
Maybe voxels are easier to design than 3d models since 3d modelling programs crash every 15 minutes?

Since its basically like using paint except in 3d terms

>>4095435
I kekd so much to this webm
> so true

>>4097229
>since 3d modelling programs crash every 15 minutes?
Time to upgrade the Amiga, gramps.

>>4097236
No they crash because of what you try to do with them, like at random for no reason. Try to cut a hole in something or join two objects together, and there's about a 1/3 chance it barfs (and if you hit undo it just makes it worse because it cant put it back together the way it found it).

I guess Google Sketchup is pretty foolproof, but you've got to really hold its hand to be able to model anything (those index points you have to place on the end of objects just to have a handle to properly grab them).

>>4097204
Set height and viewheight to 56 and seems to put the character at eye level with barons. At least the first few maps of Doom2 seem to not give issues with it.
Thanks dude. I'd like to to a bit taller but I guess I can abstract it a bit by making other characters a bit smaller.

Does anybody else here plays Samsara just because of the Hexen and Heretic characters?

They're literally the only classes that aren't straight Doomguy clones and have interesting gear.

>>4096703
>this whole time I was 100% sure the Doom engine was counted separately from the brush-based engines and id tech started with Q1
at some point around when rage was coming out they announced rage was running on "id tech 5" and retroactively renamed all the previous engine generations to fit in with the theme. no doom or quake game was ever contemporaneously described as having an "id tech X" engine.

If Doomguy died at the end of E1M8 does that mean we play as a Former Human infighting for the rest of the game? There are few things to support this theory
>Doomguy doesn't lose sanity in hell
>he can use soulspheres and other paranormal shit
>can snipe with chaingun the same way those fucking chaingunners can
>square head
it's obvious we are the demons

>>4097240
>No they crash because of what you try to do with them, like at random for no reason.
wow, all 3d modeling programs crash every 15 minutes? the whole computer art industry must be informed about this! why has no one ever spoken up about this insane crash epidemic!

>>4097249
Thats just the way it is. 3d modelling is very unintuitive.

I guess voxels are easier to design as well since you can just paint them as-is.

>>4097240
>Try to cut a hole in something or join two objects together, and there's about a 1/3 chance it barfs (and if you hit undo it just makes it worse because it cant put it back together the way it found it).
What the hell programs are you using, Bobby? Blender 2.0? I've used everything from 3DS Max to Solidworks and have never had anything as unreliable as you describe.

>>4097264
I use Blender and never had it crash on me. No idea what he could be using that fucks up so much. Maybe he should update his drivers or something.

>>4097264
> checks the
> people are still going on about this
> this issue is literally the reason I gave up on modelling with pretty much any program
> every few years I try to get back into modelling and whenever I try to make anything really detailed the program crashes in some way, usually subdivision errors or some shit
> doesnt matter what program it is

what the hell is Bobby?

>>4097269
> maybe he should update his drivers
son, they dont make new drivers for mine, its intel

>>4097278
pretty much ive given up on 3d art altogether, slating it as being completely beyond redemption, and im just waiting for whatever next major leap in modelling art comes about

same with programming, im never going to touch anything object-oriented, until it literally becomes object oriented (as in drag and drop, objects, visual) - also not going to bother until people stop reinventing the wheel every time they go to make something

again there's no arguing it, its all beyond redemption as far as im concerned, im galvanized... its probably not going to improve until 2030

>>4097278
Oh, there's your problem then. Intel chipsets are notoriously shitty for anything.

Fuck Revenants and fuck Plutonia
>hehe but it's better Doom 2 :)
it's not because D2 was fair and didn't spawn chaingunners and revies literally out of thin air besides all maps are samey and fucking boring.
But let's go back to trashing revenants. What a shit fucking enemy. Every twat who wants to make his map challenging makes few of those revenant traps where you have to face 30 of them in a place with no cover, their AAAH sound annoys me, they are all around shit altough still better than Pain Elementals.

I know you all grew up on baby's first game aka PC Doom and savescummed or used IDDQD but I grew up with PSX one with no saves and no knowledge about cheats (I wonder if there even were any) so there were plenty of times when one fucking homing missle made me replay the whole map. Fuck Revenants. To this day I get triggered when I see a skeleton I love to dig out graves and just bash every boney fucker with a hammer in case he respawns as a Revenant.

>>4097278
You are Bobby, 'cause your shit ain't right.
If your craptop is too old to run a 3D modeling program, there is no way it's gonna be powerful enough to actually render whatever it is you make without going Hiroshima or at least leaving you sterile.

However, given that people made full games and mods on old-ass computers with 486s and no dedicated graphics card, I'm willing to bet you've got something fucked up on your system, whether it be improper drivers or just a bad stick of RAM that crashes shit when you do anything too intensive (although normally that'd spit out a BSOD, so whatever).

>>4097290
Oh hell, it's this retard again.

>>4097305
> implying ive used the same system each time

>>4097298
> implying its the chipset when actual modelling and math is typically handled by the cpu

Though I guess it could be ive just used old programs up til now, it has been awhile. I wont use anything that costs money, on principal.

>>4097309
>implying its the chipset when actual modelling and math is typically handled by the cpu
Absolutely not, 3D modeling is very heavily reliant on the GPU. Graphics cards can handle hundreds of thousands of floating point calculations at very high rates, far above what a CPU can do, and that's what 3D modeling itself (not the later rendering) uses. There's a reason you see $4,000 workstation-oriented graphics cards with staggering theoretical performance, but no real use for gaming- they're meant for one thing, and that's being used for modeling.

>>4097309
Well modeling programs do use the GPU for rendering, and depending on setup also for math, so your chipset actually has an impact on things.

If you use blender make sure to update, 2.78c is pretty solid and brings very good optimizations and ease-of-use tools. I'm using it for my gzdoom needs adventures and been pretty happy with it.

>>4097290
>pretty much ive given up on 3d art altogether, slating it as being completely beyond redemption,
what the fuck does this even mean?

>and im just waiting for whatever next major leap in modelling art comes about
what are you expecting? 4d??