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Just picked this up today and I am having a great time so far. More Zelda than FF in my opinion, but hey, it is fun as hell. I like that they kept leveling up, but gave it more of an action twist.

The dialog is awful though. What were the translators on?

>> No.407862

Fucking palmtrees and 8.

Oh my fucking god fuck that puzzle. Bane of my child hood

>> No.407872 [DELETED] 

>>407852

It's not actually a FF game at all, it's the first Mana game.

>> No.407916

>>407852
>More Zelda than FF in my opinion

That's because it's not a FF game. It's a Mana game.

>> No.407961

>>407916
Yeah. I can tell. The word Mana is in every other sentence.

>> No.408002

>>407862

mine too

>> No.408008

>>407916

but it's called Final Fantasy so it's a Final Fantasy game.

>> No.408017

>>408008

Eh, that's not how it worked. It wasn't developed as a Final Fantasy game and shares nothing in common with the rest of them outside of the name and some creature crossovers.

It's part of the Mana series.

>> No.408030

>>408008
It's called Final Fantasy so baka gaijins would buy it.
It's Mana series game.

>> No.408034

>>408008
Yeah. It was meant to be a Mana game, you can tell. But it says Final Fantasy, and I agree with you.

just like Persona

You don't see people calling SMB2 Doki Doki Panic all the time.

>> No.408041

>>408008
It was localized as FF for NA but in Japan was released as a Mana game.

>> No.408036

>>408017

Nah, it's still Final Fantasy because of the name.

>> No.408087

>>408034

Persona games are SMT spinoffs. This is not a FF spinoff.

>> No.408102

>Final boss music

8-bit masterpiece.

>> No.408095

>>408041
Released as "Seiken Densetsu: Final Fantasy Gaiden" in Japan.

Sounds like Final Fantasy to me. But you can tell it was meant to be and developed as a Mana game.

>> No.408126

>>408017
it uh was developed as a final fantasy game. It's called final fantasy gaiden: legend of the holy sword.

>> No.408131 [DELETED] 

>>408034

Because it was entirely reskinned as Mario, man.

>> No.408206

>>408087
Well according to wikipedia it is, and wikipedia is a lot smarter than me.

>> No.408242

How's Sword of Mana compared to this game?

>> No.408298

>>408242
pretty awful remake but it's an alright game. Like some of the story changes are really weird.

>> No.408346

>>408298
Is the dialog any better? beccause this is ungodly engrish

>> No.408358

>>408242
the controls are really clunky. The game moves a really slow pace. It's ugly as hell too.

>> No.408381
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408381

i kinda forgot i have this one, i should play it someday...
wait, can the gamecube GBA player also play GB games?

>> No.408464

>>408346
What? There's nothing enrishy about Final Fantasy Adventure.

>> No.408458

>>408346
? The translation for FFA is actually pretty good. The dialogue i felt was worse in the remake.

>> No.408478

>>408381
yes

>> No.408490

>>408458
>>408464
Hm. I have seen a lot of grammatical errors, as well as clunky wordings. I'll try to find some for ya.

>> No.408537

>>408490
Don't play Final Fantasy Legend, your head will explode.

(Though FFL2 is probably around a similar level of translation as adventure, IIRC. SNES's FF24 (er, 2) also has that simple, odd-but-mostly-passable style).

>> No.408550

>>408490
>>408458
>>408464

"Many girls have disappeared in that place. They must be kept in the caskets at the basement."

Just clunky, and a little incorrect.

>> No.408582

>>408550
There's nothing grammatically incorrect about that. Nor spelled wrong.

>> No.408590

>>408582
It is clunky and contextually incorrect. A basement is a container, so the correct term would be "in" not "at"

>> No.408594

>>408590
a basement is a location.

>> No.408632

>>408590
A basement is a location, not a container. You should check your autism.

>> No.408625

>>408590
Well you know why it's clunky right? You are aware of how translation had to work back then yea?

>> No.408626

>>408594
But it is an indoor location. It is an "in" you don't say "I'm at my bedroom" or "I'm at the kitchen" though they are grammatically correct, it is improper context.

>> No.408648

>>408626
I suppose.

>> No.408645

>>408625
Yeah. It is understandable. Just pointing out that is is one of the more clunky ones I have seen. But I like the game. It isn't an insult.

>> No.408654

>>408632
You should calm down.

>> No.408664

>>408590
Wouldn't the casket be a container?

>> No.408669

>>408664
It is also a container. When something is in a container, it is IN the container, not AT the container. That is all I was pointing out. The basement is indoors, a container. And the casket is also a container.

I feel like this all got blown way out of proportion. It is just awkward to say. It doesn't detract from the game, which is very good.

>> No.408683

>>408645
If that's one of the clunkier ones then that pretty much says it is a pretty good translation.
I actually love how goofy the game's dialogue is. The remake has such a super serious overly dramatic tone. While rabbit people are trying to scam you.

>> No.408689

>>408669
I was making a joke about the casket. Breathe in man.

>> No.408721

>>408689
I know you were. I wasn't meaning to come off as buttmad. Grammer aside, this game is fucking awesome. I wish the map was better than it is, but fuck. I am impressed this is on GB. It is like a full Zelda adventure.

I just upgraded to the battle axe. I am liking it so far. It feels like a perfect mix of RPG and action.

>> No.408730

>>408721
oh yea, the map is awful. like, NEVER fucking save and quit in the middle of a dungeon. Because when you get back you're like "oh shit there goes the map."

>> No.408852

>>408730
It doesn't save the map? I was talking about the overworld map with no detail

>> No.409012

>>408852
The remake is no better in that regard.

>> No.409045

>>408721
FFA comes off a bit more dark and gritty.

Sword of Mana tends to dumb the story and visuals down and make it more childish.

Also I prefer the music in FFA, but maybe that's just because I grew up playing it that way.

>> No.409078

>>407862

I'm not one of /v/'s asshole gamers but I am proud to say I figured this puzzle out the first time through. It just made sense.

20 years ago? Fuck me, I'm old.

>> No.409097

>>409078
Not either of those guys but the thing that threw me off was that there was a screen with 8 palm trees. I dicked around that one screen for a long fucking time.

>> No.409103

>>409045
The story seems a bit generic thusfar, but I am only at the first boss.

Probably doesn't need pointing out, but it is pretty much the boss from dungeon 1 of LoZ... Aquamentus was it?

>> No.409110

>>409045
Sword of Mana was pretty much terrible all around, to a distracting degree.

>> No.409379

>>409045
other way around

>> No.409384

>>409103
aquamentus was the unicorn dragon. The first boss there is a two headed dragon.

>> No.409432

>>409384
Ah. Aquamentus only had one head. Well, similar bosses. and Zelda had a multi headed dragon in a later dungeon.

But this boss fight was very similar to Aquamentus in other ways. It was on the right side of the room, and just shot fireballs at you as you damage it.

>> No.409515

>>409432
Im getting real fed up with this limited inventory. It would be fine if it told me what the items did, but it is like a grab bag and I don't know what to let go of, and it doesn't stack items.

>> No.409649

>Sleep spell
>Slep

Is that a typo, or are they only allowed 4 characters per spell?

>> No.409747

>>409649
only 4 per spell. Lightning is LIT and the last spell i'm not sure what it's suppose to be, but it's NUKE.

>> No.409793

>>409747
Nuclear probably. Like the almighty spells in persona, they have a radioactive hazard as the symbol.

>> No.410930

Dude, just be careful about running out of Mattock. If you run out in the wrong area, there is no fucking way to go anywhere. This is before you get a weapon that takes down what Mattock does. That is pretty far into the game anyway.

>> No.410950

This song defines my childhood pretty much.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jz-sVQlCoDI

>> No.410960

>>407916
>More Zelda than FF

well, at least it's not Neutopia.

>> No.411717

>>410930
Yeah, thats pretty fucked up. But you can always buy more. It is like the keys in Zelda 1. But there are keys in this too... Mattock is much more valuable than keys though for some reason. They could have just combined them into one item seems like.

>> No.411729

Just got to what I assume is the midpoint where Julius kidnaps your sister? She is your sister right? Well I'm at that point at lvl 13 and I have to say, this is a really addictive Final Fantasy adventure.

>> No.411731

>>410950

Fucking great dude- Ito knew what he was doing.

Sword of Mana kinda butchered it

>> No.411748

>>410950
This is pretty much stuck in my head right now. Also, another note on what I assume is misspelled spells-

>CURE: heals you
>HEAL: cures you

>> No.411792

>>411748
nope that's right. WELCOME TO FINAL FANTASY.

>> No.411803

>>408036
Because it's a Mana game and the FF title was just tacked on, it's only considered a spinoff:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Final_Fantasy_video_games#Spin-offs

But it is the first game in the Mana series:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mana_series#Games

It's not a Final Fantasy game.

>> No.411813

>>411803
>crisis core isn't a final fantasy game
okay bro

>> No.411817

>>411803
We came to a conclusion on this early in the thread. It was developed in Japan as a final fantasy spin off. Literally a side story. "Supplementary story" is in the title of it.

Mana is a FF spin off just like Mario is a Donkey Kong spin off. But yes, it is the first of the Mana series.

>> No.411879

Try the Legend games OP. I remember playing them when I was a little kid on my gameboy. At least play 3, it was awesome.
>Dat Faye, Dat Dion.

>> No.413712

>>411879
I'm most definitely going to. I wasn't much into FF before this, but I just bought a GBP so I figured I needed something substantial on it. Bought this and Link's Awakening. The handheld FFs seem really good. I liked FF9 and X-2 for some reason... But the rest of the series never really struck me as anything special.

That might have changed.

>> No.413801

>>413712
Well for the handheld, the Final Fantasy Legend trilogy is the SaGa trilogy. Final Fantasy Legend III being the easiest to get into and also easiest to complete. Made by the Mystic Quest team and it only has a few aspects related to the first two games.

Final Fantasy Legend I and II are worth playing because they have different races that develop in different ways (no experience points or levels). They also have weapon durability and no real defined setting, you go traveling among different worlds with their own settings. From more typical RPG landscapes to even ruined future cities in which you use a hover cycle to traverse the map.

I HIGHLY suggest finding booklets online and reading through them because the booklet is required reading for the Final Fantasy Legend (SaGa) series.

>> No.413812

>>413801
Booklet is required? I might just try to pick them up CIB because... In box is funner I guess.

>> No.413846

>>413812
Yeah, otherwise you will be trying to figure out some of the growth mechanics. In the first game humans are completely item dependent, you need to buy their armors, weapons, and stat growth potions to make them stronger. Monsters need to eat monster meat so they can transform into different monsters. If you just played the game blind without any information you would have no clue what would be going on, and even think some races were useless. I say this because I have read some user reviews online and some people didn't know about using potions on humans to make them stronger thus they had a human with unaltered stats by the time they could go into the tower. That is just asking for your human to die, and eventually run out of lives and perma-die.

>> No.413862

>>413846
>perma die
I am going to buy this right now. Which one is it?

>> No.413905

>>413862
The first Final Fantasy Legend. All characters start with three hearts, you can lose them when they die. You COULD buy more hearts, but they are very expensive, and pretty much impossible to get early game because of the cost. If someone dies you can just recruit someone new. You can have a party of a minimum of one person and maximum of four. There have been solo runs.

>> No.415281

>>413905
That sounds fucking cool

>> No.415303

>>415281

It is.

Not that guy but the FFL games are some of my favorites.

>> No.415337

>>415303
I will be looking out for them.