/vr/ - Retro Games

>>4061145

>set a render resolution beyond what arcade machines were capable of back then
>be surprised that the assets don't scale well at all

>>4061164
The first Tekken is ugly even on the native resolution. And it was released on 1994, the same year Virtua Fighter 2 was released.

>>4061181
Stop using that horrible texture filter

This one

>>4061145
Ballz > Blockz

>>4061184
Stop stretching to 16:4 and stop using that horrible 2xsal texture filter, faggot.

>>4061145
Kek I thought that was Gamera and it was some Godzilla like kaiju fighting game at first.

>>4061201
nice spheres

I did't find a better pic, but the multiplayer of star fox 64 on foot have some of the blockiest models of ALL TIME!

>>4061213
fukken circles, man

>>4061216
(2/2)

The bike part in FF7? Shit's hilarious.

No pic.

I didn't want to post this in the bikini armor thread.

>>4061223
ellipsoids

>>4061238
Sexy

>>4061164
Tekken 1 is an ugly game naturally (seriously, the whole point of Tekken 1 is that it's a budget 3D fighter that uses far cheaper PS1 hardware instead of a custom high-end board like Virtua Fighter 2 so operators would spend a third of the cost).
but OP's shot makes it look even worse

>>4061216
>>4061227
I played MP quite some times but never in those 20 years I played this game see those models. Is this some reverse mandela effect stuff or is my memory just lacking lately?

>>4061145
>>4061169
I like those low poly models. It gives them some weird kind of aesthetic that makes them unique compared to modern 3D models.

>>4061252
I like them too, the models of this mode in particular are funny

I love this one too

>>4061145
>b-b-but it looks good that nostalga you XD

>>4061252
>I played MP quite some times but never in those 20 years I played this game see those models. Is this some reverse mandela effect stuff or is my memory just lacking lately?

You probably never unlocked the option. It required you to get all medals on expert mode, if I remember right.

>>4061267
Exact, my friend was a expert in this game, we played in this cart back then

>>4061264
Beautiful game. Looks weird as fuck.

>>4061241
This one was made by the same people of ballz?

Arcade one was fine, but the ps1/64 port was a little ...

GRITTY

This one manages to look ugly even with filters on.

>>4061280
nope. different devs.

Sega saturn port

Fuck textures. We have Vertex Shading.

>>4061308
Sorry, vertex coloring.

Blocky clipping tits are the best tits.

>tfw we have sprite porn but no low-poly porn yet

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fn-AcYvCzF0

>>4061308
Isn't gouraud shading?

>>4061321
We have Nude Raider.

>>4061327
Cloud is best girl

>>4061328
Gourad shading with vertex coloring.

>>4061164
>>4061186
>>4061204
In the past when a console game got a PC release everyone praised the options to increase the rendering resolution and filter the textures. It was even a marketing point for those ports.
Now if someone uses emulators to do that /vr/ goes "that's not the developers vision".

Most games look better emulators than on a blurry pixelated small screen. Some that would hurt my eyes like Legaia actually look good.

Some games just didn't gave a fuck and embraced the low poly graphics and the flat shading.

Like I wrote on a "weird looking games" thread, it seems that they hadn't defined yet how good graphics should look and work and were just experimenting.

>>4061360
Tobla is an example of that. It mixes flat sahding with soft shading and vertex coloring.
The bocky characters clash with the almost ethereal stages that make heavy use of vertex coloring and almost no textures.

After 1997 those kind of art choices disappeared and Playstation games became more homogeneous.

This game looks better in motion

>>4061369
This aesthetic and those details are some things that inspired me to move on low poly 3D modelling.

I hope one day I can create full games in all those styles (not indie meme polygons, please), but that will be really hard as, although I have plenty of pretty solid ideas and love 3D modeling, I'm just one guy and can't model and do the programming at the same time.

I have some ideas for games with Virtua Fighter-like graphics, another one that would have a style closer to Dragon Ball Final Bout (making heavy use of vertex coloring), at least two simple cel shading (like Jet Set Radio) games... but I'm still just one guy.

>>4061375
High resolution Saturn games are truly a fascinating sight.

>>4061389

>>4061390

>>4061380
beta virtua fighter was even more blocky.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l123vCUALDU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dOJ7mp6o73w

>>4061354
the point is youre trying to play games that are clearly not made for this level of upscaling and are completely distorting the assets to the point of them looking hideous.
there is a very huge difference and your selective ignorance is doing no one any favors

Fuck 3D games. We had 4D games!

>>4061397

>>4061390

Activate it.

>>4061404

>>4061406

>>4061241

DESU I find this kinda endearing. It's much better looking than most of the realtime 3D art of mid 90s.

>>4061310

But those faces are textures tho.

>>4061397
I love this one. Wing War. It's a shame this board had so few games.

>>4061398
So the difference is that I can only scale games that originaly had a PC release that allowed for this, like Mortal Kombat 4, Gex 2 and House of The Dead 1 and 2?
Many games look way better scaled up, like Legend of Legaia, Megaman Legends and Doctor Slump. Games with no textures, like Virtua Fighter also scale really well. Some still look bad, like Spawn and Tekken.
Tekken was hideous in every way. The game had no art direction. The textures were just ugly textures taken from dreadful high poly 3D models. One of the ugliest games I have ever played.

>>4061145
d-did you see what I did there?

>>4061418
there is no magic rule for what can and cant be upscaled, and i know you know this. some games were just designed in a way to look good only in the context of the original system, and fucking with them outside of that results in things the original artists never intended. In some games it ends up working out anyways because like you said it all depends on how textured they are, how well the models are made and so on.
Like that project justice screenshot earlier in the thread looks fucking hideous and is embarrassing compared to the original

>>4061415
Only the faces and some details here and there.

Arcade version.

>>4061327
ZOMG TEH CLOUD!!!1

>>4061437
They actually modeled fingers! That looks pretty cool, actually.

>>4061423
Yes, and i love It!

>>4061307
>>4061315
There needs to be a new Toshinden game, so that we can see Sofia's beautiful tits rendered with modern tech

>>4061489
A game with cell shading like the new dbz and guilty gear will be GOAT

>>4061489
They released one on Wii, no one gave a shit.

>>4061493
>that transparency dithering

>>4061503
That was a spin off that used the same name only, not a real sequel.

>>4061476
>>4061479

there are really good anon

>>4061145

>>4061532
Is this Sailor Moon?

>>4061145
I just want a thread dedicated to how old Tekken 1 looks.

>>4061145
You start

>>4061540
Nothing is blockier and uglier then this bear, anon.

>>4061539
B-B-B-B-B-B-BUT GAMES DON'T AGE!
THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH OLD PRE-RENDERED CGI

>>4061468
Yeah, the Arcade version have individual fingers, some more polygons here and ther, one extra stage and higher resolution textures.

>>4061561
god those faces are severely fucked

>>4061145
The leap from Tekken 1 to 2 in both ingame graphics and CGI is actually insane and underrated.

>>4061194
Aww FX Fighter was cool.

>>4061570
It was a huge leap. Not as big as Vf1 to Vf2 in regards to character models, but those CG movies were insanely well done.

>>4061560
They look as hilarious as they did back then. They didn't magically change over time.

>>4061278
What's this called?

>>4061597
Tobal no.1

>>4061606
Thank you

>>4061539
I dumped dozens of Tekken images on our last pre-rendered thread.
Funny that the first Virtua Fighter is ugly, but does have its charm, while Tekken is just plain disgusting.

>>4061565
The girls were cute.

>>4061623
What's aged worst, tekken real time models or prerendered ones?

>>4061636
Hmm, I need to take a look at low poly models topology to answer that, but considering they used high poly models renders as textures, I guess the high poly models aged even more.

Topology and texturing in low poly models is a fascinating subject. I mean, some SFEX models had way more polygons in some areas than the SFEX2 models, but SFEX2 models had better texturing and clever topology than SFEX.
Virtua Fighter 2 models had less polygons than the first one too, I guess. The first one was way over Playstation-tier (Akira alone had about 2100 polygons, while Playstation characters even in fighting game usually are around 700 polys) but looked blocky as fuck. Every VF1 port had a smaller polycount than the arcade original.

>>4061636
none games don't age

>>4061560
Tekken 3's CG still looks beautiful now, and it's from the same generation.

>why are those boxes fighting?

The very first Winning Eleven.

>>4061660
Excuses.

>>4061660
Tekken 1 looked like shit even for the time.

These graphic look fine. Games don't age.

Are you a Winner like Tao Pai Pai?

>>4061679
Yes I know but my point is not all CG age like shit. They just didn't know how to deal with 3D during Tekken 1.

I love so many of these. They're endearing.

>>4061689

>>4061418
This is really a case-by-case thing. There are different ways to upscale and modify a game's appearance, and that's the tricky thing. Some games will only look better if you modify them a very specific way. You can't just apply the same filters and settings to every game and expect good results.

If you really want to upscale your games, I suggest you experiment a bit, really get the most out of your options here. There's room for improvement.

>>4061597
It's literally in the filename dude

>>4061668

>>4061660
Namco caught up quick as hell. By the time Tekken Tag Tournament came out (and this is with the PS1 based arcade board), Tekken's pre-renders were stellar.
They came a hell of a long way from shit like pic related in fairly little time.

>>4061697
Of course 1998 CG looks better than 1993 CG, what the fuck. Why are you denying that games DO age like piss and shit?

>>4061636
both are pretty awful
I'd say the pre-renders look worse nowadays than the real-time stuff.
It's really fucking bad.

actually, I'd personally argue that pre-renders from the mid-90s in general have "aged" worse than real-time stuff mostly due to the absolutely awful, plastic-like lighting on everything (it's raytraced, but it's still shit) -- realtime stuff generally avoids that

>>4061651
With texturing, you could afford to skimp on polygons. VF1 needed more detail in spots, so it had to rely on more polygons. VF2 could just throw somewhat high resolution textures around instead.
I remember reading that the same thing holds for Virtua Racing to Daytona USA.

>>4061310
> mfw you figure the filename

>>4061506
It looks perfectly fine on screen (in fact, the real issue with that 50% pattern on the Saturn is that everything with 50% mode enabled has a nasty rough outline), and ends up not looking as odd as in the PS1 version where you see the polygons flickering around underneath.
Saturn's true transparency mode sucks though (Saturn transparency overwrites what's behind it on a given layer, and the VDP1's output is all on one layer, so if they were really transparent on the machine, you'd only see the background showing through and not her legs)

>>4061532
this game is an embarrassment for no real reason on the Saturn
like, they didn't even fucking make an attempt, why the living fuck isn't it gouraud shaded

>>4061308
More PS1 games needed to use vertex colors. You end up with loads cleaner results than texturing absolutely everything.

>>4061265
>b-b-but it looks good that nostalga you XD
what is this trainwreck of a post trying to convey

>>4061850
You completely missed his a second time. Not the smartest cookie..

Alone in the dark

>>4061273
These don't even look bad honestly. There are worse errors like floating trees and objects in this game.

>>4061861
I don't get it.

>>4061401
4D Boxing was MY SHIT

Cosmic Race

>>4062015
This one is worse than Superman 64.
Underrated as far as "worst games ever" go.

>>4061315
>>4061489
THUNDER RING
THUNDER RING
AUUROOOOORA REVOLUUUUUTION

Canceled FX Fighter

>>4061163 >>4061307 >>4061315 >>4061321 >>4061489 >>4061493

Y'all remember when Earthworm Jim was a Battle Arena Toshinden character

>>4061795
Heh

>>4061412
Those were actually bullshots afaik, heavily massage to look presentable for promotion

>>4061872
>Saturn transparency overwrites what's behind it on a given layer, and the VDP1's output is all on one layer, so if they were really transparent on the machine, you'd only see the background showing through and not her legs

That's VDP2 transparency, not VDP1. It was used more often because it is uses 0 fillrate to do.

VDP1 transparency works just as on the psx, but it has only 1 mode (addition) while the psx has 4, and you get pixel overwrite artifacts due to the quad rendering, which makes everything look like cracked glass.
The big problem wasn't that though, but the fact that it was
- stupidly slow, on a chip that was already way too slow
- it did not combine with the VDP2, so a transparent polygon was opaque in front of the background.

Also, as long as you use square shape (ie. all corners are 90 degrees regardless of width and height), you get no artifacts.

Probably the first 3D platformer.

>>4061539
>>4061560
Tekken was made the same year Toy Story was released.
You can't show an objectively bad CGI and use it as an example of aging graphics.

>>4061369
>>4061278
>>4061264

For those who have never looked up a vid on this game: still images are a disservice. It was one of the few games that had 60fps (or very close) on PSX, if I recall correctly.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q9IGMZAXjpc

>>4062245
those look pretty good
valve incompetence resizes all non power of 2 textures and makes them look worse in the steam version with openGL

>>4062551
And before anyone says
>but muh tekken was considered ground-breaking at the time
I would like to point out that Tekken was the first 3D game that used textures. The reason it was considered ground-breaking was because of the technical achivement, not the aesthetics. The game itself did blew minds, but the renders on the arcade cabinet always looked hilarious especially for people who watched Toy Story.

>>4062392
Pandemonium! had great art direction.

>>4062591
>Tekken was the first 3D game that used textures
How does this argument work?

>>4061947
I would argue that Alone in the Dark models still look nice because they didn't try to be realistic to begin with. Stylized graphics are timeless regardless of technology.

>>4062596
Name one real-time 3D game that had textured polygons before Tekken.

>>4062602
Ultima Underworld

>>4062591
>I would like to point out that Tekken was the first 3D game that used textures.
Didn't Daytona USA and Ridge Racer came before Tekken?

>>4061241
https://www.unseen64.net/2011/01/18/urban-decay-pc-cancelled/

I hope one day some indie dev decides to imitate Ecstatica. With today's programmable GPUs it should be possible to do this kind of thing with full hardware acceleration.

>>4062603
>ultima underworld is 3d
Even Doom is considered pseudo-3D. We are not talking about perspective projected walls here. We are talking about actual polygonal objects.

>>4062606
You're right! I guess Tekken was a such big deal because it BTFO'd Virtua Fighter.

>>4062618
Poor people chose PS1. Of course the systems games were more played.

>>4062606
What is wrong with the floor in that pic? I played Tekken 1 for years and never see it bending upwards like that.

>>4062618
Ultima Underworld has texture mapped polygonal objects such as doors.

>>4062618
>However, let me second what Dan Schmidt said in the guestbook back in August about the description of the UW engine you guys have up on the page. Namely, UW _was not_ a raycasting engine. While UW did use a tilemap to store the world, that has nothing to do with the rendering model. In general, I'd suggest that the "world rep" and "rendering engine" be considered separate things when discussing game technology, because they very often are. In UW, we had a tile based world. The renderer used the tiles to explore the view cone and do a high level cull operation. From the list of visible tiles, we generated full 3d polygons, in the traditional XYZ sense, and handed them off to a rendering back end and rendered each poly in 3d as is. That is also how the 3d models like the ankh shrines or benches were done, which clearly aren't "raycast" model 3d objects. Now, in practice, many of our 3d primitives did things like normal checks first, and then chose which algorithim to rasterize with based on scale/normal/etc of the surface being rendered.
http://www.peroxide.dk/underworld.shtml

>>4062618
>it BTFO'd Virtua Fighter.
Not the first Tekken.

Is brown Kuma the scariest 3D character ever? The white one is almost cute.

>>4062623
Shit emulation on ZinC. It's the arcade version.

Here's the emulated Playstation one.

>>4062621
I'm talking about when it first hit the arcades.

>>4062626
You're right! I looked at some screenshots and it even has 3D tables and stuff. But I do remember textures in Tekken being a huge deal though. I guess people were just comparing it to Virtua Fighter and since I never played Ultima Underworld, I thought Tekken was the first.

>>4062630
Thanks

>>4062631
Why Kuma's torso have less polygons than Kazuya's? He clearly needs them the most.

>>4061238
Is Deathtrap Dungeon good? I never bought it back in the day.

This game must be seen in motion to be fully appreciated.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_AQC2Gb76-0&t=44s

>>4061265
try displaying it at its native resolution you stupid faggot

>>4061375
Saved for future use.

>>4062657
Believe it or not, Saturn version looks like exactly like that. And I do believe it's the Saturn version because Lara's skin color.

>>4062602
>Name one real-time 3D game that had textured polygons before Tekken.

Tekken
Release Arcade
JP: December 9, 1994

Daytona USA
Release Arcade
JP: August 1993

>>4061238
hot

>>4061560
It is obviously true that, as with most things in life, distance and experience help you see old games more clearly for what they actually are without the hype. Arguing whether "games age" is arguing the semantics of the word "age", and thus not very interesting. You can express this notion without using the word "age" to avoid the autism surrounding it.

>please post only the ugliest ones
Fuck you, I post whatever I want.

>>4061375

>>4062656
>Jaguar

>>4062646
All those polygons wasted on the fur spikes could have been used on his body. But no, fuck that, he's a bear!

>>4062710
At least they got their shit together with Tekken 2.

>>4062641
Maybe it was the first to have textured 3D humans but I'm not sure if that was a huge step from the untextured humans of VF or AitD and various mentioned textured games.

>even has 3D tables and stuff.
Tables only show up in UW2. A lot of the furniture was also still untextured. I guess the texture mapping only worked well for rectangles.
I should post the PS1 version since we're speaking of blocky models.

These graphics look like shit. How can you say that games don't age???

>>4062801
>>>/v/

>>4062812
No fuck you, 5th gen aged like dog piss and old milk.

It's funny in the case of Tekken 1 because the gameplay ALSO aged poorly compared to the later games even in the same generation. So much for games don't age.

When you try everything to make Deus Ex run on close to minimum specs (300MHz PII).

Not pictured: Auful sound, low framerate with frequent drops to the low 10s.

>>4061689
Wait wasn't that a Dragonball character?

>>4062832
>running well below recommended specs
>GEE I WONDER WHY IT LOOKS LIKE SHIT
Another /v/ babby.

>>4062835
yep

>>4062328
That looks cool.

Also it says 'fighting polygon' which appeared in Smash Bros for 64.

>>4062831
I don't see any reason why anyone would pick Tekken 1 over 3 or TAG. Game was obsoleted by own series.

>>4062841
For the story.

>>4062631
That legit looks better untextured.

>>4062842
What Story? Nina's story is that she loses a fucking shoe in Tekken 1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iw3Get9w2s8

>>4062849
Go back to /v/, kid. You don't belong in here.

>>4062832
Deus Ex was always buggy. More glitchy if you don't run it with a Voodoo card.

>>4062836
>>running well below recommended specs
>>GEE I WONDER WHY IT LOOKS LIKE SHIT
>Another /v/ babby.

He mentioned 300MHz PII, you try hard trolol b8er.

>>4062852
>>>/v/ is that way

>>4062665
No, the Saturn did not render at 240p and upscale to 480i. Nor did it render at 480i. That's a 240p screenshot blown up to 640x480.

>>4062854
>Don't agree with me goto /v/

Why I don't play modern games unless GBA counts? Why don't you tell me to kill myself too?

GAMES. DON'T. AGE.
They still look the same they did back in 1993.
It's just you who aged like shit.

>>4062859
>Why I don't play modern games unless GBA counts?
Because it's againt the rules. What the fuck is your point?

>>4062581
60 fps and 480i

>>4062602
Virtua Fighter 2 came out the month before, didn't it?

>>4062392
ah, you're right
I honestly forgot you could do it on the vdp1 because of all the issues.

>>4062849
That CGI don't look THAT bad.

>>4062636
Yes, it's the ugliest model ever, it's look like a giant turtle or something.

>>4062864
You're telling people who play only old games to go to /v/ because you're either retarded or trolling badly.

>>4061273
God I hate the fucking text in this game. Why's it look like shit?

>>4062860
Thanks for your valuable contribution.

Games may not "age" but peoples tastes become more refined and expand based on what they grow up with.

>>4061172

>>4062903
This looks good, though.

>>4062836
Posted this just for fun, many people would own a similar system when the game was released. That being said, the models are still ugly, even with default settings.

A question, Kunimitsu is a female in tekken 1 too? She have a Male voice in this game.

>>4063121

Why did a bunch of posts get deleted? What the fuck, mods. Delete the entire conversation as well as the replies then don't leave a bunch of posts with dead links.

>>4061380
That's a pretty rad Flicky shirt ya got there /vr/ tan.

>>4062720
He (it?) lost his red laser claws.

>>4062831
Aged? It was shit even in 1994. The first Virtua Fighter was way better.

>>4063296
Anon-kun, you are killing me with this wrong aspect ratio and upscale resolution nonsense. I don't know how you can even play this. I'm assuming you're one of those vaporwave faglords who never lived through the PS1 console generation.

>>4063296
>The first Virtua Fighter was way better.
Too true, didn't stop Tekken from miraculously selling well though.

>>4062883
Is this the greatest fighting game ending ever? Only the SFEX endings get close.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o4gNtaSj1zM

>>4062835
Yes.
Lao = Mercenary Tao
Jacky = SS Goku or SS Trunks
Pai = Chun Li
Jeffry = some real fighter whose name I forgot

Tekken also ripped DB
Kazuya = Vegeta
Lee = Trunks
Nina = VF Sarah
Wang = Shun Di
King = Tiger Mask
Ganryu = Kazuya but fat. Seems to be based on a real sumotori whose name I don't know.
Kuma = Gamera

>>4063367
>Jacky = SS Goku or SS Trunks

Goku. Lion was Trunks, and Shun Di was Master Roshi.

Jacky always reminded me of Trunks rather than Goku.

>>4063386
Shun Di was Yuen Siu-tien as Beggar So

Why were Paul hands so big? They look like Mokujin's iron ball hands.

>>4063453
And they have way more polys (most unnecessary) than Kuma's body. This is almost gore to me.

Any other game that looks like Tekken 1?

>>4061172
They changed Law's yellow suit on the PS port to make him a Bruce Lee ripoff instead of just Bruce Lee in awful 3D.

Ecstatica is one the few games that blended prerendered bgs and 3d characters fantastically.

>>4063453
oh my god stop
how can you even play like this
are you trolling

>>4063519
That's Tekken in glorious 1080p you bitch.

>>4063459
Fx fighter looks very bad, don't have anything like kuma, but...

>>4061213
That game used to creep me out so hard.

>>4062841
>over 3 or TAG
What about 2?

>>4063367
Funny how they made a 3D CGI scene look like it was filmed on a cheap movie set with that background texture.

>>4061241
>>4062356
*balloons squeaking*

>>4063618
They all look like this. King's even use real children.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JzN9fA-aL4Y

>>4063808
>Those saggy tits
Mamma mia

>>4061164
who is Suprised?
I think an ugly 3d model thread is funny... why is everything some odd issue?

>>4062591
>I would like to point out that Tekken was the first 3D game that used textures
evidently that's arguable

>>4063519
Better?

>>4063828
wat

HUGE HANDS

>>4063898
This is okay.

>>4063986
Sarah is my waifu

>>4063898
Cute

>>4061295
When I rented this game back in 1999, I thought it was the most hideous thing I've ever seen. This, MK Special Forces, and Fighting Force 2 were the worst games I ever rented from my local Blockbuster.

>>4062656
That shitty Nirvana rip off song...

>>4064382

Those exact chords have been ripped off more times than any I know, I think The Damned used them first, then Killing Joke, then Nirvana, probably more since.

>>4063808
I love this ending

>>4064382
>>4064421
shit, I was trying to remember where I heard that song before, thanks for helping me find it.

>>4062656
dat silky smooth 6 fps

I wish like there are pixel artists there were CGI artists who made low poly art, I really want to see characters from modern games with 1000 or 2000 less triangles

>>4064885
So do it yourself. You should find plenty of information on /3/.

Even in the flyer the characters are blocky

>>4064885
But Anon, that's exactly what I am. Here's something I did.

I love low poly, that's why I have so many emulator screens showing old games in high resolution.

>>4064885
Another one

>>4064885
And there's this. And this >>4061380

Now, modern games... modern games don't have any interesting character design for me to model.

>>4061390
>the goyim know

>>4065013
Love that look, much better than lying deceiving cgi renders that look nothing like the in-game graphics.

I love Granstream Saga, but even when it came out it looked pretty bad. Say what you want about FF7's lego people, but at least they had eyes.

Beautiful game.

>>4065218
>>4065013

>>4065542
*tires screeching*

>>4065543
>WELCOME TO VIRTUA CITY, MOTHERFUCKER!

>>4065510
Granstream Saga was widely panned on it's release, I recall. It pretty much got buried. But it's actually a pretty enjoyable action rpg. I like the treasure mechanic, it's risky and fun.

Also dat shower scene.

>>4065539
AM2 did a damn fine job. Nack/Fang needs to make a return.

>>4065539
I love this game, it's great for people like me who are terrible at fightan games.

>>4065139
>>4065141
>>4065146
Oh this is super cool, everything I wanted.
Beside Karnov have you done models from other already established characters?
I hope soon you find a programmer and make the game you want.

I unironically think horrible 5th generation 3D graphics are just as charming and a e s t h e t ic as le spriteshit, and in 30 years I'm going to be vindicated.

>>4065546
Didn't know Sam Raimi wrote the script for Virtua Cop!

>>4061489
>ywn call her queen.

>>4065806
Well, besides Karnov, this guy >>4065141 is Epsilon Eagle from Alien Soldier and this >>4065146 is Andy from Heart of Darkness.
I also did Tre/vr/, PC Engine Bomberman, Bubsy, Phalanx cover hillbilly, Popful Mail and Wario (the last two never finished) in Virtua Fighter style for my /vr/ Fighters mockups, Pepe the Frog (Gex style, for my "Pepe - Enter the Kek" proposal), Palmon and many Fantastic Four characters, for a FF fangame that I'm trying to develop to celebrate Jack Kirby's 100th birthday and how comics used to be fun.
The style I used for the FF characters is inspired by Jet Set Radio but also by the cartoonist Peter Arno.

>>4065815
I think some were charming. Virtua Fighter 2 was charming, while Tekken 1 was just really bad.

>>4065815
Here's Sue.
I also did many OCs of my own creation. Some I posted on /co/ ages ago.

>>4065862
>>4065870
Amazing, keep it up

>>4065907
And here's something I did for a friend, inspired by old Sega Saturn games.

>>4063808
Some one in a Tekken 7 thread noticed the "kids" in King's ending are just Japs but made King's model larger so the Japs look like kids

>>4063367
Hmm, and Wang is supposed to be Master Roshi, as his textures are named just as "Roushi".
Heihachi is Papa, Ganryu is Sumo and Michelle is just Chan. Perhaps she was originally an asian character named Chan, but they changed her design and kept Chang as her surname.

Oh, and here's Kuma textures from textures-resource.com.

>>4065969
Kuma's face is fucking terrifying

>>4065146
I love this model so much. You've done such a great job and I really hope you finish it.

>>4065925
sopa de macaco

>>4065969
>Hmm, and Wang is supposed to be Master Roshi, as his textures are named just as "Roushi".

"Roshi" means "old master" in japanese.

>>4065925
Is that Marcelo Pretto

>>4061145
I thought that was Godzilla

Also this
youtube.com/watch?v=-_5eiuo4nbg
>:06 that sexy gut-sucking Saladin pose

N64 official sports games were full of treasure like this

>>4066272
what a intense match
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EsD74mwwdEc

>>4066365
>that horrible rigging
SFM was a mistake

So you're in the Mishima Zaibatsu Headquarters and this... guy slaps your gf's ass. What you do?

>>4066227
Fuck
You're making me hungry.

>>4066249
No.

>>4066735
The worst model ever

>>4065815
I have a thing for 5th gen 3D cars like what Gran Turismo 1 and 2 did.

>>4062528
Do you know the correct CPU speed to run it at in DOSbox?

>>4066941
Try MAX.

>>4066847
I think I will port it to Skyrim. I'm having so much fun with this shitty model.

>>4067079
This gonna be GOLD!

This game is like one of those trash Amiga games that only yuropoors like, but in 3D and on Playstation.

>>4061843
>kazyua

>>4067408
not feeling Sasha Grey's new look desu

>>4061145
For a brief moment I thought that was Gamera in the thumbnail.

>>4063828
>why is everything some odd issue?
The subject matter of this board gathers a lot of people desperate to prove their retro gamer cred so they gotta nitpick the fuck out of everything.

>>4061560
Tekken 1 always looked like shit.

>>4062618
>Tekken was a such big deal because it BTFO'd Virtua Fighter.
Gameplay is totally subjective but you're insane if you thought Tekken looked better than VF2 which came out like half a year earlier.

>>4062830
JANITOR I DEMAND YOU DELETE THIS POST IMMEDIATELY!

>>4061843
I love how in tekken 7 this cutscene (alongside the buttload of cutscenes/endings from the rest of the series) appears during a scene with kazuya.

>>4061973

>Here to complain?

I find incredible that when Osamu Tezuka defined the "anime" style, he created a style that not only was easy draw quickly but also good for animation and even for low poly modeling, decades before three-dimensional facial modeling was a thing.
Meanwhile, western style almost invariably look bad in low poly, even if cartoony.

Aydin Chronicles is a good example. Although everything is stylized, it looks bad. The art choices and the designs being bad doesn't help

When I started in low poly modeling, I found very few western artists whose style would go well with low poly, like New Yorker's Peter Arno, that, as I said, inspired me on the Fantastic Four models.
I believe some of the art by Jack Kirby himself, like his blockier works, would work too, perhaps Devil Dinosaur, but I haven't tried to model Kirby in 3D yet.

>>4067812
The Tobal no. 1 thread and Dragon Ball PSX shots in this thread really made me appreciate Akira Toriyama's designs.

Goran Parlov does nice chunky exaggerated designs that'd work well in lowpoly.

>>4062647
It okay. Nothing amazing but worth a go.

>>4067812
Not to diminishing Osamu Tezuka contribution to comics and animation, but he borrowed a lot from Western artists like Disney. Silent era and early golden age Western animation that inspired Tezuka had simple character designs that were easy to draw and well suited for low-poly. It was only later that Western /co/ art got less cartoony, more complicated and more baroque. But even later Western TV animation had a lot of ingeniously simple art, mostly for cost reasons; Hanna-Barbera cartoons are the prime example.

Nude Raider

>>4067932
I think Goran Parlov designs are good on the paper, but would look like this >>4067395 >>4061682 in 3D. I can almost picture a low poly Barracuda looking like this. Although it may work, perhaps, in a style tailored for small scenes like that Hokuto no Ken Playstation game.
It needs do have the right amount of curves and edges.

>The Tobal no. 1 thread and Dragon Ball PSX shots in this thread really made me appreciate Akira Toriyama's designs.
So go take a look at the Playstation Dr Slump game. You will love it. As it is based on the Dr Slump remake, the designs are actually by Katsuyoshi Nakatsuru, who also did Dragon Ball GT, but he does a great job in emulating Toriyama style.

>>4068074
I know. Hanna-Barbera and Warner are a mixed bunch. I like how "Sheep, Dog 'n Wolf" looks too, but most Looney Tunes characters have too many curves, and their eyes have volume, while anime eyes are big but mostly flat on the face.
Almost every Disney movie design is tricky to model and animate efficiently in low poly.
You know what would look good in 3D? Old UPA cartoons. But they also have a problem. They are too simple and TOO 2D, being tailored for the cheap TV animation.
Although anime style is basically simplified stylized designs for cheap animation, they used many different camera angles, and the characters were created for such, while western cartoons were stuck to the same shots everytime. So many characters designs were intended only for a side view. I bet Mr Magoo would look good, while Pink Panther's "Little Man" would look bad, or at least, would only look good in one angle.

>>4068301
Of course, each game used a different method to render its designs, as each game had a different style. Some designs work in some modeling styles, while others don't.
But what I say is that most anime characters look decent even in BAD looking games, while western ones do not.

This subject is, like I said before, fascinating. But most 3D modelers don't see to care. If I'm now a decent 3D modeler, that's because I spent countless hours not only looking at games but also analyzing countless artists. But in /3/ they only talk about 3D modeling and, usually, anatomy and all those weird effects that modern games use. Anatomy is important, of course, you can't be a good artists without understanding anatomy, but they're just trying to copy art without understanding it, like if this was a magic method to become a good 3D modeler. That's a problem with everyone nowadays. Indie game developers are just stupid game fanboys that do nothing but play games, not real creators and artists, and they think they're developing good games just because they like it. They never read a book or stop to watch a good old cartoon.

And all this talk is making me itch to model some of those characters in 3D.

Sorry if my english is a bit rocky, I need to eat my monkey soup before it gets cold.

>>4061145
I'm glad that Wild ARMs 1 got remade, because it's an impressively ugly game.

>>4068301
>Looney Tunes characters have too many curves, and their eyes have volume, while anime eyes are big but mostly flat on the face.
>So many characters designs were intended only for a side view.
Both good points, and I totally agree. When I mentioned Disney I meant the earlier, black and white shorts, not the features. I am not a fan of the Kingdom Hearts series, but I can't help but admire the effort it must have taken to reproduce all those characters faithfully in 3D. Imagine if they had to do the same on the original PlayStation. I think old Sullivan or Fleischer cartoons like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EYRNqGJjpwk would work well for low-ploy for the same reasons anime does.

>>4065552
There's rumors floating around that he'll appear as a boss in Sonic Mania, but that could easily be bollocks.

>>4067454
Maybe he meant the first game?

I love his face texture.

Why is everybody posting GOOD examples of 3D?

>>4062891
The characters are too big/cut off, I'd say...

>>4068380
I thought it was cool that you could see his face reflected in his helmet when you go in first person. A nice attention to detail that will later be made famous by Metroid Prime.

>>4068335
i dunno i really like those chunky little models

>>4068346
I disagree.
Those rubber hose limbs and curves don't lend well to low poly. Fleischer characters have the same problems of most western cartoons characters when it comes to low poly.

When you start learning drawing with, let's say, Loomis, what do you learn? To start with simple shapes and add other shapes on top of that to create details like the eyes. Fleischer, Disney and Warner cartoons are mostly derived from this because that's the best way to design good looking characters that are easy to animate, as not every inbeetweener is as talented as the main character designer.
But this is only how you START drawing. Try that to create a complex design using this method and you'll end with a complete clusterfuck.
And this in 3D only adds more and more geometry, what means more polygons. While the thin limbs, a defining element on the 2D art, would just look bad in low resolution thanks to the aliasing.

Once you actually learn how to draw, you move beyond this phase and start composing your drawings with traces, as the simple shapes phase happens in your mind before you start the actual drawing. And in the case of artists that need to create a great volume of art, this usually leads to some stylistic choices and changes. That's why Jack Kirby art became blockier and blockier.
And that's when anime move beyond the Disney influences Tezuka had and people talk so much. While Disney characters are build over simple shapes, anime characters are build over traces.
You can draw Porky Pig with simple shapes, but you can't draw Trunks using the same method.

Tezuka drawing. If he used the simples shapes method, he would start with a ball for the face and then would add details.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cnX-DRf5IBk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6W3UcZwUBQ
Toriyama drawings are almost a fight between traces and lines. Amazing.

Many artists never move beyond the first phase. And many want to drawn manga before actually learning how to draw.

I unironically love Bubsy 3d.

>>4068489
How's your platform game?

>>4068625
Im not Ulillillia just another autismo. Bubsy 3d is a legit good game once you get the tank controls down.

Post blocky waifus

>>4068972

>>4068972

>>4068972

>>4069112
Better then marvel vs capcom infinite

>>4069112
>saving the gouraud shading for her thighs

>>4069142
Well, she is blocky, not ugly so it is actually better than MVCI.

I would gladly marry a blocky girl and I would make sweet love to her. Then we would have PS2-tier sons and build the perfect low poly family.
>tfw when normal-mapped grandsons

>>4068375
That's a really dumb comparison then since no one would be impressed that a game in 95 looks better than a game in 93 that had a much better looking sequel.

>>4069287
But anon, games don't age!

>>4061324
Massively underrated post.

>>4062832
I managed to get Deus Ex to run on my P1...though "run" might be an overstatement. It was more like a powerpoint presentation.

>>4061324
>>4069510
fucking christ, you ain't kidding

>>4068972
see
>>4061327

>>4069595
It's pretty impressive they managed to get marionette physics so right in 1995.

Too many good faps

>>4069735
not blocky, very smooth. not even ugly. come on man, read the op!

>>4069595
>>4069614
>Sailor Mercury only appears for 1 sec
aw shes so shy ;_;

>>4069735
>mfw I hav no face

>>4069735

FF8 hasnt aged a day

>>4061489
CLAMP? is that you?

>>4070175
No, that's Masami Obari

BLOCCC

>>4070260
In glorious 16:9 1080p, yes.

>>4070260
One of my waifus, she gave me the milf fetish

>>4070275
That's not 16:9 bruh

>>4065552
You know as much as people hate Sonics friends, Fang's pretty cool
He's a dingo in a cowboy hat. How can you dislike that?

>>4069735
I feel the same way about you.

>>4070615
Sonic's friend designs were more creative in the 90s before SHADOW & SILVER the edgehog and the other sonic reskins. Fang was designed by the artist Touma.

why are Zelda 64 models nightmare fuel?

N64 had the most beautiful graffix

LOOK AT IT

donkey lips

dude weed

My god, these guys are from Beta?

>>4061843
>They came a hell of a long way from shit like pic related in fairly little time
While the algorithms and technology were available, the tools to make realistic renders largely did not exist at first, and companies developed in-house tools as they published games. They were just laying the foundations in the first game.

hello friend

>>4071008
yes

>>4065925
a mexican vigilante with reinforced concrete armor
i want this game

>>4068972

>>4071037
Cute

>>4071024
Brazilian. He's Concreto Armado ("Reinforced Concrete", but a pun in portuguese that means "Armed Concrete"), a deranged vigilante who tries to clean the city by killing hobos.

>>4070989
Oh, nice head! Let me try it too.

>>4070975
Funny that they were done by the same guys who did the artwork, all when they were learning how to work with 3D. They also did Mario 64 renders.

I think most look pretty good for N64. They're all recognizable.

>>4070964
>that clipping
Wait, what?

Too sexy to handle

>>4072242
>ahahaha
Anna really does things to my dick

>>4068641
sunk cost fallacy at work

>>4071638
I think he shit his pants or something.
>>4071469
"WATTA"
>>4072265
Okay I admit the underwater stages are terrible.

This is ugly and beautiful at the same time.

>>4072250

Anna is the best fighting game girl.

>>4072423
I fapped to that Nina ending where she takes off Anna's bikini top. Good stuff.

>>4069146
Wonder when they used Phong shading.

Hey low poly modeler dude, could you model >>4069146 in low poly? You'll be my hero and potentially create a permanent part of /vr/ culture if you do.

>>4072517
Kek, I may give it a try.

>>4070175
She had a long day.

>>4071469
:<>

>>4072421
I'm really digging the model of that crown guy.

>>4069895

Released last year :3

>>4071437
>concreto means concrete

>>4061292
I loved this game, back on SEGA Megadrive :)

>>4072421
What's this?

>>4061184

One of my first waifus

>>4074058
Tobal, with designs by Akira Toriyama.