/vr/ - Retro Games

>>4058817
>Does anyone know why there aren't any applications that allow you to play PS1 games on the actual hardware?
Maybe because a modded PS1 is 20$.

You can also use psxlauncher with a case mod that lets you swap discs. This is easier to accomplish on the slim and you have to burn the games

>>4058842
Having a complete collection of PS1 you can simply launch from a harddisk would be ideal tho.

>>4058857
PSIO for playstation

>>4058857
It would, but most people don't have CRTs anymore and for those its all the same if they emulate. Those who still cling to fat tvs are too small of a market to spend effort on developing something like what you want.

PSIO will be functional, some day.

>>4058817
>Does anyone know why there aren't any applications that allow you to play PS1 games on the actual hardware?
Because nobody has worked out how to launch homebrew while the PS2 has switched into PS1 mode.

Basically when the PS2 goes into PS1 mode pretty much the entire OS is deloaded and changed into a modified PS1 OS.

If you want to play pirated PS1 games on a PS2 you'll need a modchip since that'll defeat DVD/CD copy protection for everything and anything.

>>4058871
not to mention how the very last ps2 line doesnt even have the fucking ps1 support.

talking about the scph90004 8d.

>>4058875
Even the last PS2 model off the production line has PS1 support. It has to, since PS2 games use the PS1 components.

Only thing those last few PS2 models lost was FMCB support.

>>4058881
You got it wrong, especially the last part which is a fucking common as hell myth on the internet and a massive misinformation. I know it because i fucking have it.

FMCB support is there, you just cannot get the ps2 boot menu (OSDSYS or whatever its called) to display FMCB and/or any other custom entries. Instead you have to hold Triangle as the console boots to manually boot up the uLaunch and to there manually load whatever app you desire. Shit works flawlessly, been using it for years now.

And ps1 games do not work on the 90004 8D, not a single one. Not original ones, nor the pirated copies via any method.

Hey, this is exactly what I was looking for.

I just recently picked up a Maxtor HDD 250GB for my PS2.

There's a guide I've followed online - http://imgur.com/a/2rUST that I'm stuck on.

Once I hook up my HDD and load Winhiip it tells me that the hard drive does not have a master boot record. Any thoughts on this?

Afraid to move any further as I don't want to spend another 25 dollars on buying an extra hard disk.

>>4058941
Put a PS2 utility on your memory card or USB stick to format the hard drive in the PS2. There's probably a PC utility to do it too but it'll be easier just to do it in the PS2.

It's interesting that Wiis can boot Gamecube games from the hard drive in native mode but not PS2s and PS1 games. Presumably the GC has enough i/o to address mass storage while the PS1 doesn't. That's probably why PSIO is such a mess too. Someone like the Rhea guy should really just develop a true ODE for PS1

>>4058817
I was gonna get a fat PS2 but did my research and found that out. I got a slim one and did the tape mod so I can use PSX Launcher and play burned PSX games naively.

I think you need one of those flip top cases to do that on the fat PS2.

>>4058817
It only emulates the CD IO part, everything else is the same
Compatibility is only 70% though

>>4059058
>It only emulates the CD IO part, everything else is the same
What does that mean? Does it run like it would on original hardware?

>>4058954
>Put a PS2 utility on your memory card or USB stick to format the hard drive in the PS2. There's probably a PC utility to do it too but it'll be easier just to do it in the PS2.

Sorry. I'm having trouble understanding this part. I do not have a HDD Utility Disc - unless you are saying I can do it another way?

>>4059164
ignore the tripfag and do it through windows like all the guides say. it's not hard if you're not retarded.

>>4058941
Winhiip can format the drive to a PS2 format. So as long as you connect the drive to your computer and the application can see the drive, you're good to go. Just select the drive and format it, then add games. That's how I did it, worked even though my file manager couldn't open the hard drive.

>>4059205
Oh by the way, if you format it, make sure you select the 48bit option, otherwise it won't be able to store more than 128gb of data.

>got free PS2 with semi-dead disc drive
>network adapters are fucking expensive here in EU
Fugg.

>>4059075
Pretty much. But some games still don't work.

There are compatibility lists online

>>4059225
Can't you import a JP one?

>>4059230
Not really worth it, I guess I will use an USB HDD
Also still need to get a SCART cable and PS2 controller

>>4059225

Buy one of the aliexpress ones, they've got IDE and SATA too and are like 12 quid. Will probably take an age to be delivered but that's the standard.

>>4059240
Do they just werk with Free McBoot?

>>4059246

Yep, should do if you have the memory card ready. If you don't you can always install Free McBoot through the hard-drive via Free HDboot. Beats hunting down a copy of Agent Under Fire or whatever.

>>4059236
PS2's usb port is slow usb 1.1.

>>4058885
>And ps1 games do not work on the 90004 8D, not a single one
Other than every PS1 game ever made.

>>4059164
Yeah, I checked and HDLOADER the same utility you'll be using to run PS2 games from the HDD can format it. You're going to want that utility up and running anyway so you might as well get in running from the memory card now and use it to format your hard drive.

>>4059198
You don't have to be retarded to want to do things the easy way but some people are better off just following guides precisely step by step. It seems like OP skipped some steps already though. I'm just trying to get him on track the easiest way.

>>4059164
Yeah, I checked and HDLOADER the same utility you'll be using to run PS2 games from the HDD can format it. You're going to want that utility up and running anyway so you might as well get in running from the memory card now and use it to format your hard drive.

>>4059198
You don't have to be retarded to want to do things the easy way but some people are better off just following guides precisely step by step. It seems like OP skipped some steps already though. I'm just trying to get him on track the easiest way

>>4058954
but I just played Spyro on my PS2 slim

>>4059260

Yeah, unless it's to play a light 2D puzzle game or something I wouldn't go that route. FMV's lag to shit every time and loading times are abysmal.

>Instead you have to hold Triangle as the console boots to manually boot up the uLaunch and to there manually load whatever app you desire

wait what? are you saying this is possible on a console without a modchip?

>>4059412
He said app, not game.

FMCB doesn't need a modchip to function nor to load games. Once you're in that's it, happy days.

>>4059427

i've got a scph-90001 that wont boot free mcboot, but its on the memory card. Are you saying theres still a way I can boot ulaunch? without a modchip?

>>4059427

everything i'm reading says I need swap magic or a modded ps2 to run ulaunch. I held triangle but it did nothing. Ive got mcboot installed to the mem card

>>4059253
>Beats hunting down a copy of Agent Under Fire or whatever
You can also use a lot of EA Sports games, which are still incredibly common in thrift stores etc.

>>4059317
A likely story.

>>4058858
>never in stock

I did the soft mod for free mcboot on my slim ps2 (star,tape and paper?) method. It was working, but I took the tape/straw and everything out, now the modded memory card/usb is not doing anything.

Anyone know what i missing to have it work again?

Is there anything wrong with playing PS1 games on popstarter?

>>4059756
Slower load times due to the PS2 using USB 1.1 and massive incompatibilty

http://www.ps2-home.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=173

>>4058857
get a PSTV and literally play them from a USB hard/flash drive. they just have to be in eboot form

>>4059662

Even if you could get one, the compatibility is rubbish and most people are unhappy with it and the 'support' it's gotten. Before long someone like krizz or the Rhea guy will do it right, PSIO has that N64 Myth Cart stop-gap stench all over it.

>>4059816
Not all games work for example Dragon Quest VII

>>4058817
i have a slim and have a program on free mcboot that stops the drive for easy disc swap trick. you fucked up bruh.

>>4058817
>the only way to launch PS1 games on a modded PS2 is with Popstarter.

That's not right. Use a modchip or swapmagic with burned games.

>>4059776
>Slower load times due to the PS2 using USB 1.1
Avoided by loading from internal IDE drive (in the fat) or from a samba share (on the slim which has a 100mbps network port built in).

>>4058885
>And ps1 games do not work on the 90004 8D, not a single one. Not original ones, nor the pirated copies via any method.
This is bullshit. I have that model and PS1 games work fine.

>>4058817
You should get a FAT then.
Popstarter on a FAT actually uses the hardware and built in compatibility layer.

>>4058875
>>4058881
>>4058885
>>4059272
>>4060191
Only FAT PS2's do PS1 in hardware.
Slims do it in software.
The last Slims can't do it natively at all, unless you use a hacked emulator on a modded console.

>>4059776
Who the fuck uses a USB disk with a FAT PS2?
Who the fuck uses a Slim without a hard drive and native support for PS1 games?

>>4059412
>>4059427
>>4059432
>>4059443
You only need a corresponding Boot.elf on the memory card to boot FreeMcBoot.
It's called softmodding, you don't need a modchip.

It can be done owning a compatible game and replacing a file on the game disc and swapping the discs while the game is loaded to load uLaunch and install McBoot.

On FATs you can also just write FreeHDBoot onto the hard drive on a PC and pop it in.

Swap Magic and other tools are unnecessary.

>>4059225
>>network adapters are fucking expensive here in EU
What the fucka re you talking about, you can get one for 10 bucks off eBay.

Ps2 has like the easiest swap trick ever. just go to the bowser put in real ps1 disk, wait for disk to show up, swap to burned disk, press x. you are now playing a burned game.

obviously you need a slightly modified console to swap disks. i have a fat ps2 i just ripped the top off of and leave off, makes for easy swapping. you need to get the magnet from the top of the cd drive throw on top of the disk to hold the disks down.

>>4058817
>>an emulator
>>on a console
POPStarter is not an emulator for the system, it uses the compatibility layer of the actual PS2, depending if its a Fat or Slim one, it uses the actual hardware or software, if you got a Slim PS2, then you already are doing emulation for PS2 games, even without POPStarter.
POPStarter is just a way to launch PS1 games as images instead of physical disks, it only does the CD I/O part.

>>4060212
Absolutely incorrect.

>>4060238
Source?

POPStarter is just a starter for POPS. The built in compatibility layer for PS1 games on PS2.
All Fats actually have the original PS1 CPU. They don't do the whole PS1 system in software like latter Slims do (Except V12/13).

>>4058817
I love how all these people are suggesting swap magic and stuff and nobody's suggesting that you just tapemod your PS2.

>>4060254
see
>>4060221

>swapmagic
what is this, 2005? this shit is not needed these days

>>4058817
>>decide I want to play some PS1 and PS2 classics
>>an emulator
>>on a console
Yes, that's how PS2 backwards compatibility works.
Unless you have a Fat (if you say HDD, you probably mean internal, so you do), that is not fully software emulation and pretty spot on.

>Does anyone know why there aren't any applications that allow you to play PS1 games on the actual hardware?
Yes, a random PS1 and a $3 modchip.

Another thread made by a (hopefully) 18 year old that can't read or research.

I've been wondering recently, do PS1 games get better audio quality from the PS2's optical out? Or is the built in DAC good?

>>4060328
Both are fine, you're not going to hear any difference.

>>4058817
You can boot a burned copy of the ps1loader with the ps2loader.

>>4058817
You're gonna have to burn discs and swap with an original PS1 game. Since it sounds like you've got a fat, you'll probably want to get a swap top (basically, it replaces part of the case to put a lid where the disc drive is so you don't need to do nasty drive yanking bullshit).

there are a tiny handful of games with issues still (read: any that use redbook audio instead of XA -- like Wipeout and Rollcage, which will have screwy music tracks, there's a list on Wikipedia IIRC)

>>4060009
>swapmagic
>for PS1 games
you do know that it only works for PS2 discs, right?
mind you, if you've got ulaunchelf (and if you're extra lazy, psxlauncher, although it's completely unnecessary), doing a PS1 swap is still just as zero effort and nearly zero wear on the machine as doing a PS2 swap with SM

>>4060258
if you're lazy as hell, it makes installing FMCB zero effort (put installer on usb, boot using SM, run installer, keep SM discs around for any CD based PS2 games you're too lazy/stupid to convert to DVD and patch and for whatever tiny handful of PS2 games won't boot with ESR)
but a better option is to just know a guy with fmcb already

>>4060349
>if you're lazy as hell, it makes installing FMCB zero effort
>take out your PS2 hard drive
>connect to PC via USB-ATA bridge
>write FreeHDBoot image
>put back hard drive and done

>>4060349
You aren't up to date much with the PS2 scene, are you?

>>4060215
>Slims do it in software.
No they do not. They don't have the original MIPS 3000A CPUs that's true, but instead they include a PowerPC processor with microcode designed for cycle-accurate emulation of a MIPS 3000A. For all intents and purposes, it's like they have a real MIPS 3000A. Slim PS2s do not emulate the PS1 CPU using any "core" PS2 hardware.

Hence why backward compatibility still works.

90004 8d faggot here again.

Then why the hell don't any of the legit PS1 games work on my console? Hell, whwy don't any of the burned ps1 games that work on my psone work on my hard and soft-modded ps2?

>>4060381
>Then why the hell don't any of the legit PS1 games work on my console
Probably because your laser is fucked. PS1 and PS2 games require different lens settings so PS2 games working doesn't mean PS1 has to work.

>>4059412
Correct. You won't be able to install the FMCB from a burnt cd onto your memcard because of >no modchip but you can order a fixed up memcard that already has it off ebay or whatever, have someone do it for you, and yes, you can boot it up.

The only real drawback for these final revisions of ps2 is that you have to manually reboot the console every time you want to change an app/game/whatever due to not having your shit listen in the ps2 boot menu.

OpenPS2Loader and most apps have some sot of IGR (in game reset shortcut) that can take you back to the main menu of the app so there is that at least.

>>4060384
Nope, laser is in pristine functional condition, I have spent more time playing on OPL than with actual physical cds. All the ps2 games get booted on the first try, zero freezing or anything and I have never, ever managed to boot a ps1 game and I tried a bunch. Ultimatively not a huge issue because I have a modded PSone and few of my personal favorites work well enough on POPstarter too so who cares.

>>4060385
>Correct. You won't be able to install the FMCB from a burnt cd onto your memcard because of >no modchip but you can order a fixed up memcard that already has it off ebay or whatever, have someone do it for you, and yes, you can boot it up.
are you selling memory cards? it's easy as fuck to do it yourself, no reason to buy a card with it on already

>>4060390
I don't sell them. And that's far easier since its a price of a regular memcard anyway, than having to niggerrig your ps2 into somehow reading a burnt cd.

>>4060379
source?

then why do the latter slims with the powerpc chip have difficulties with accuracy and require a different and more bloated pops emulator/compatibility layer?

>>4060394
>than having to niggerrig your ps2 into somehow reading a burnt cd.
if you have a PS2 you probably already have a game that can be used to softmod, so it's cheaper and faster than ordering a card

>>4060394
>And that's far easier since its a price of a regular memcard anyway, than having to niggerrig your ps2 into somehow reading a burnt cd.
Typical /vr/ tard, ignorant, lazy and dumb, can't do any of their own shit

>>4060395
You can look it up yourself, but the reason slims require more pops overhead is because the PowerPC isn't truly 100% cycle accurate, but close to it.

The reason that pops even needed to exist on fats is because although the PS2's GPU was designed to be backwards compatible with PS1's GPU down to a pixel pipeline cycle, it wasn't 100% accurate either.

>>4058817
>OPEN "PS2" LOADER

>>4060416
>You can look it up yourself
you make the argument
you post the source

still, the argument is true that Fats and the Slims with the old I/O processor are more compatible than the latter Silms

>>4060386
Do CD-based (blue disc) PS2 games work on your console?

>>4060423
>still, the argument is true that Fats and the Slims with the old I/O processor are more compatible than the latter Silms
I'm fairly sure they removed the original I/O processor (MIPS 3000A) well before the 9000x revision.

Riddle me this /vr/

I got my hands on a SCPH-90006 without knowing it was modded. It is region free and can boot both burnt PS1 and 2 discs by pressing the power button 2 or 3 times on startup. Just wondering what I have my hands on if anyone knows, thanks!

>>4060469
Well, what do YOU think?

>>4060442
Yep they do. It makes the console super fucking loud tho.

>>4060469
If you have to hold down the power button to boot PS1 games then you probably have a PS2 with a modchip, most likely a Matrix Infinity.

>>4058817
Only.way to play ps1 games on ps2 softmodded is through popstarter or swapmagic sorry senpai. Popstarter is bretty good desu, been playing entirely policenauts on it and it ran flawlessly, I recommend popstarter, good stuff

>>4060443
That's a argument? Already mentioned V12/13 Slims had the original I/O processor, learn to read

>>4060394
Might as well get one of those usb ps2 memory card adapters they made for the ps3. Has worked to install FreeMCBoot for a while now.

>people jumping through hoops just to play PS1 games
>all this effort, and most of them will end up with emulation anyways
>PS1's are $20
>the modchip is $4
Why?

>>4060824
then $200 for a PSIO because you get tired of the laser dying all the time.

>>4060245
You are an idiot. Go read the fucking Free McBoot forums. This has been asked and answered a billion fucking times. It's emulation, regardless of model.

Yes, a fat PS2 contains PS1 hardware. That's exactly why there is no way for PS2 software hacks to do what you are ignorantly claiming. When a fat PS1 is operating in PS1 mode, it's literally a PS1. A PS1 has no idea how to access HDDs, USBs, or anything else which don't even exist to it. The PS2 hardware has no way of interacting with the PS1 hardware, and it sure as fuck has no way of tricking the PS1 hardware into thinking an ISO on a USB stick is the optical drive that the PS1 hardware is physically designed to access because THAT'S LITERALLY NOT HOW ANY OF THIS WORKS.

>>4060386

there's a different adjustment for cd games, if you fix that it will prob read the games. I literally just went through this

>>4060871
>$200 replacement for $20 console or $10-$15 part
That doesn't make sense unless you chainsmoke or live in a jungle.

>>4060443
>>4060423
>>4060416
>>4060395
>>4060379
https://github.com/PCSX2/pcsx2/wiki/PSX-mode#how-the-hardware-does-it-later-slim-consoles

>>4060824
A lot of people have never used a soldering iron before and think it's more difficult than it is.

>>4059240
I bought two other aliexpress (~$19 each) because I knew that they would be shitty so the first would broke easily. 3 years of using it and it still works & the 2nd one is still in its box

>everything went better than expected

>>4058817
Just burn a CD-R, you big baby.

How do I boot Japanese PS1 discs on a fat PS2? Can you do it through freemcboot?

>>4061149
By getting Japanese PS2, for sure!

>>4060386
>Probably because your laser is fucked. PS1 and PS2 games require different lens settings so PS2 games working doesn't mean PS1 has to work.
>your laser is fucked. PS1 and PS2 games require different lens settings so PS2 games working doesn't mean PS1 has to work.
>PS1 and PS2 games require different lens settings so PS2 games working doesn't mean PS1 has to work.
>PS1 and PS2 games require different lens settings
>PS2 games working doesn't mean PS1 has to work.
>doesn't mean PS1 has to work.

>>4061206
What was the point of that?

Anyhow, it's CD and DVD games which have different lens settings. Some PS2 games come on CD, some on DVD. All PS1 titles are CD. Therefore if anon only tested DVD-based PS2 games it would prove nothing. You need to do a round robin on all 3 disc types to be sure.

>>4061228
The anon said CD-based PS2 games work but PS1 games do not.
However other anons with the same late-model PS2 slim say that PS1 games work on theirs, which suggests some deficiency in the above anon's PS2, even if it's not the laser's ability to read CDs.

Could there possibly be a difference in how the laser reads the blue-surface PS2 CDs compared to the black-surface PS1 CDs? As I understand it both colored plastics are transparent to the infrared wavelength of a CD laser (about 780 nm, outside of the visible which is why you can't see the foil at all through the plastic on PS1 discs even though the laser can), but maybe there is some other variation that can interfere with the tracking on black discs but not blue ones.
Of course it could also be nothing to do with the disc drive at all.

So can anyone tell me how to run ulaunch or freemcboot on a SCPH-90001 without using swap magic/007 swap trick/modchip? Or is it impossible since they did that thing to the bios

>>4061012
A lot of people don't have soldering irons.

What's objectively the best PS2 model to own?

ALL THIS MOTHERFUCKING GOING BACK AND FORWARDS JUST TO SEE WHO HAS THE BIGGER SHITPOSTING PENIS SIZE!

JUST FUCKING TELL THE FACTS GUYS!

>>4061482
Original model had HDD as a option. Otherwise later Slim versions (except the 9000 series)

>>4061564
What's wrong with the 9000 series?

>>4061601
Can't use softmod and the only change it made was being a tiny bit lighter

>>4061527

Google exists for a reason.

>>4060469
What's going on here?

All I want to know is this, can I play burned copies of Rule of the Rose or Haunting ground with this installed?

>>4060351
I've got a slim, and it doesn't have the header for me to stick a hard drive on.
I've also got a fat lying around, but I haven't touched it in forever after it started having horrible drive issues with CDs (it screeches) and occasional issues with DVDs, could probably get it running entirely off the hard drive if I cared enough, but I mostly played PS1 games on it, so eh.

>>4060354
did this shit like three or four years ago
are you telling me that you don't have to swap anymore for PS1 games to run "natively" on the PS2 anymore?
or is it in regards to installing fmcb?

>>4060216
huh? I use a slim. Just burn the games

>>4061832
You could use the fat to install free mcboot on a memory card, and then stick the card in the slim. The slim is good to have because they all have an ethernet port built in.

Do I need a PS1 controller to play games with POPStarter?

>>4062480
Anon, I...why would you even?
Dualshock and Dualshock 2 controllers work natively with both PS1 and PS2 consoles. With free mcboot you can even use dualshock 3 and 4 controllers over USB, supposedly, although I haven't tried it.

>>4062480
I swear, the stupid shit that gets posted here.

>>4058817
I don't feel like reading the rest of the thread but the only way to play PS1 games natively on your PS2 is to invoke the PS1 mode which can only be done using the laser. In other words, you need to pop a PS1 disc in there (fake works too I think?). PS1 mode doesn't utilize USB modules so I don't think it's possible to modernize the way you play unless you rely on emulators like Pops.

>>4062747
POPS is not an emulator, it's more like a compatibility layer (that takes advantage of hardware support to a certain extent for PS1 instructions).

>>4058817
USE A FUCKING MOD CHIP!
DONT USE THE CHEAP POOR MAN WAY
BUY A PS2 MODCHIP AND SOLDER IT PROBLEM SOLVED!

>>4062862
Even if that's the case, Pops being a wrapper or whatever of some sort, the results were all over the place back on PSP, which produced similar results on Vita, meanwhile Pops on PS2 had entirely different problems the handhelds didn't have. It's really mixed and disappointing.

>>4062873
>BUY A PS2 MODCHIP AND SOLDER IT PROBLEM SOLVED!
But then you lose the ability to play PS1 games.

>>4062876
of course not, I have a matrix infinity chip and even ps1 translations work flawless
with and only freemmcboot setup oyu have to rely on crap with flaws like poops

>>4062552
Thank you.

>>4062669
You need a PS1 controller to play original games with PS2.
It's a logical question, anon.

>>4063198
>You need a PS1 controller to play original games with PS2.
No. No you don't.

So much trolling and stupid, misinformed people in this thread. Holy shit, my heart goes out to anyone new to this shit.

>>4062862

Popstarter (which is what everyone's talking about here) is an emulator, it's a straight-up emulator. It was developed by Sony for a PS2 Bishi Bashi compilation, leaked online and has been hacked and improved since but has a low ceiling we've probably hit because, again, it was developed solely to play a 2D button pressing game. It is not a 'compatibility layer' and I have no idea why you keep saying that. If you want to use the native PS1 support to load burned discs you have to use either PSXLAUNCHER (with your sensors blocked) or have a modded console. The Pops on PS2 is not REMOTELY comparable to the Pops on PSP, the compatibility is night and day.

>>4063218
>an emulator, it's a straight-up emulator
Then why do people keep saying it isn't?

>>4063340
They're confusing POPS (software emulator) with the PSX chip (hardware emulator).

>>4062480
yes

Speaking of emulators for PS2, have any of you tried to emulate GB games on this console? I usually play these games on my PC, but my niece loves playing old games on my PS2. So far we have been using Snes Station and FCEUltra. They are not perfect but the work.

>>4058817
>>4064453

>>4064329
You know what else works? A PC.

It's funny how much misinformation there is in the PS2 hacking community. Everything is so spread out.

>>4064329

8-bit stuff works okay as I recall, if you have a hard drive you can throw an emu or two on there and boot them from the Open PS2 Loader. It really doesn't compare to the Wii, X-Box or Pi though, I'd only suggest emus if you have literally nothing else to use.

>>4065103

It's the same with any hacking community, you get the same shit when there's Wii hacking threads on here too - a mixture of people who haven't checked anything in years giving their irrelevant or outdated two cents and newbies who post after checking the first few results on Google which are always, ALWAYS outdated.

>>4065193
I've found it's particularly bad in the PS2 community, I think because it never got any sort of mainstream support unlike the Wii, PSP, 3DS communities.

>>4062873
>mod chip on a ps2
What's the point? You can get the same results from FMCB.

>>4066243
Not if you want to play backup or import PS1 games which is the entire point of this thread and the only reason it hasn't been nuked.

>>4061228
>What was the point of that?
The anon I responded too obviously didn't read the part where the other anon stated just because it loads PS2 games doesn't mean the laser is "pristine"

What should I check before buying a used PS2? Also which version is the preferred one for piracy stuff?

Ehh, I just emulate PS1 now. It's decent enough. I don't have the space for a damn CRTV and they aren't even that worth the hassle.

>>4066763
Get a 39xxx or 50xxx (missing the i-link/firewire port)

They run quieter and have better lasers than earlier models and are much more softmod-friendly than later slim models. I presume you wish to fit a hard drive and load it up with disc images right?

>>4066763
Make sure the laser work for both PS2 and PS1 games.
Make sure the memory slots actually can read the memory cards and obviously inputs from controllers and video output.
Best version are chip modded versions, you can buy a DVD-RW for like $15 and 100 DVDs for the same amount.

>>4066780
>I don't have the space for a damn CRTV and they aren't even that worth the hassle
What the fuck am I reading

>>4058817
I have a modded PS2 and can play PS1 games just fine. That said, an android device+controller or PSP is much better.

>>4067190

>>4066820
>>4066780

I know this Ot, but how do I mod a ps2 to play all the games from a flash drive?

>>4067957
>USB 1.1
You really, REALLY don't want to go down that road, anon.

>>4058857
raspberry pi, nigger.

>>4068039
Emulation is for cucks.

>>4068041
>emulation is for cucks unless it's a PS2 or 3
How do you even function normally?

>>4068047
The PS2 doesn't use emulation.

>>4063198
>Thanks me for my post explaining that PS1 and PS2 controllers are mutually intercompatible
>Proceeds to state exactly the opposite

Swap trick is pretty easy. Stop being so cheap and buy a stack of cd-r's.

With freemcboot you can just use a swap magic iso.

>>4068047
PS2 has PS1 hardware in it.
BC PS3s have PS2 and PS1 hardware in them.

It's not emulation in those cases.

>>4068261
Only first gen or so ps3's have the hardware. The rest of the bc units are software.

>>4068052
>>4068261
If you followed the reply chain, you'd realize they're discussing PS1 games on a PS2 harddrive.

And if you read the thread, you'd know they can't be loaded naively like a disc.

>>4059756
Just entered this thread but honestly it would feel like massive cockblock and completely counter-intuitive to be emulating a console on a console which has the native hardware right there in it.

>>4060007
what program? please respond. I thought PS1 backups was impossible on PS2 as well.

Just get a modded psOne with mm3 modchip. Works flawless with any and all games.

>>4069828
I thought ONEchip was the best option for PSOnes?

>>4068039
reddit pi shills are the cancer of any community of retro games or emulation

>>4070029
we are making a killing off this board :~DDDDD

upvote me daddy