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4048981 No.4048981 [Reply] [Original]

Any idea what this is about? Got an e-mail from Atari linking to the site earlier today.

Was thinking it's just another Atari Flashback, but it has an email address for developers who are interested in developing for the new platform at the bottom to request info. Is Atari getting back into the console game? I kind of doubt they have the money or tech to compete...

>> No.4048982
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4048982

Image from the video, clearly modeled after the 2600 whatever it is.

>> No.4048983

Sounds silly imo.. Steam has very good versions of most Atari games it would just be a novelty item trying to cash in on Nintendo success

>> No.4048989

So where is the video link?

I cannot find anything for Ataribox on YouTube.

>> No.4048994

>>4048989
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5WNsmCpdhhY

>> No.4049001

>>4048994
Oh, just noticed too, appears to be 4 controller ports on the front?

>> No.4049004

Is this a modern console or a flashback console?

>> No.4049005

well it would be pretty nice if they finally made an Atari console that could play all 2600/5200/7800 and atari computer games

>> No.4049040

>>4049004
Well, like I said, it's weird that they'd have an email address for interested developers if it's another Flashback console. Also, I don't think they really hyped up their previous 10 or whatever Flashbacks at all prior to release.

Maybe it's something like an Ouya? That'd be a terrible investment on their part, but I don't really see Atari competing Sony/Nintendo/Microsoft on the real console market.

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4049072

Atari isn't the real Atari. It's Infogrames who bought the Atari brand name.

>> No.4050918

Leaks are claiming that it's a "modern" console being developed that licensed the Atari name.

Most likely it'll go the way to the Coleco Chameleon. There's no way it could compete with mainstream consoles in terms of tech, and it's not like AAA studios will line up to produce games for it. Small studios and indies don't really have to luxury of developing for a niche device with a limited market.

If they have some gimmick they're going for, we'll have to wait and see.

>> No.4050985

>>4049072
INFOGRAMES IS INNOVATION

>> No.4050992

>>4048981
Calling it now. This is just going to be an Atari based NES Classic kinda thing

>> No.4051009

>>4050992
there's already 6 atari flashbacks that all predate the nes classic

>> No.4051212

http://atariage.com/forums/topic/266460-not-sure-where-to-drop-this-ataribox/?p=3779920

Someone with knowledge of the industry says it's a real product from Atari working with a new company and that he saw a sample unit. No details beyond that.

>> No.4051323

>>4051212
I just don't see how it's going to carve out a market. They're going to need a lot of first party titles to prime the system for any kind of market penetration. Even shoving every classic game that Atari has rights to onto the thing and releasing a couple flagship titles alongside it to showcase its modern capabilities wouldn't do much...

Going to be kind of disappointed if the damn thing's just an Android box.

>> No.4051457

>>4051009
What?

Fucking Atari copying Nintendo.

>> No.4051461

>>4050918
>Most likely it'll go the way to the Coleco Chameleon. There's no way it could compete with mainstream consoles in terms of tech, and it's not like AAA studios will line up to produce games for it. Small studios and indies don't really have to luxury of developing for a niche device with a limited market.
I wish something like that could work but there's just no way I guess

>> No.4051497

Atari doesn't seem to be in any partnerships with Intel/nVidia/AMD or any other of the major chip manufacturers. So this is either going to use off the shelf parts or possibly they're working with a smaller manufacturer of components for embedded devices. In either case, that would imply at best mobile-tier performance. Really no idea what they're going for with this.

>> No.4051508

>>4051497
not the gaystation killer we've all been hoping for then

>> No.4051523

>>4051508
More like, not even in the same league. Thing's going to be a toy. There doesn't seem to be a lot of exact numbers of what it usually costs to develop a console these days, but one article I saw claims $3.32 billion to develop the PS3. There's no way Atari has even a fraction of that amount even if they found investors.

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>yfw Atari and Sega team up to design the ultimate console

>> No.4051559

>>4051545
Ultimate failure console.

>> No.4051682

>>4049005
It'll probably be something like this, an Android emulation box that can run all their IPs on their "exclusive platform" maybe even with arcade licensing available and/or some enhanced editions that will be exclusive until they come out on phones and steam after a few months depending on the success of the console.

I wonder what kind of controllers it'll come with.

>> No.4051823

>>4051682
>I wonder what kind of controllers it'll come with.
If it's got a spinner and/or trackball for Tempest and/or Centipede I'll buy it day one, even if it's an unmitigated disaster

>> No.4052023

>>4051823
Maybe it'll come with a color vector monitor

>> No.4052063

>>4048981

It's a Steam box packed with an emulated atari library, calm down.

>> No.4052745

>>4052063
This.
Although I doubt it's even that much.

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>>4052063
This was also my guess. They can't really be thinking of launching their own service can they?

>> No.4052816

This COULD be possible.
Here's how you do it:
Contract AMD to do an APU for you, do 12GB unified GDDR5 RAM, x86 architecture, and have a discrete GPU on the motherboard that matches the APU in Crossfire.

If you can keep the costs down, you could conceivably make this as a game console for $350-$400.

It would be somewhere closer to a linux PC than a PS4 is.

Next, license every game that supports xinput and make a decent OS to download and launch games. Put in a laptop blu-ray reader and give it a 2.5" SATA3 hard drive, one USB3 port for external storage, and 2 usb2 ports for controllers.

>> No.4052819

>>4052816
lol this is atari we're talking about here, they ain't doing any of that cool shit

>> No.4052821

>>4052819
So the power of 2 flashbacks then?
How many Chinese shovelware games will they stick on it?

>> No.4052823

I don't know what it is and I'm already feeling
disappointed.

>> No.4052824

>>4052819
If they were smart, they would.
But, yeah, it's Atari.

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>>4049040

> That'd be a terrible investment on their part

>> No.4052829

>>4051545
>Atari in charge of hardware
>Sega in charge of games

What could go wrong?

>> No.4052843

I thought Atari filed for bankrupcy between the time Midway and THQ shut down. Did they somehow survive that shitshow?

>> No.4052845

>>4052829
You implying SEGA doesn't make good games? Because almost every IP they push out besides modern Sonic is great.

>> No.4052847 [DELETED] 

>>4052845
They fired Overworks. They don't push out IPs anymore.

>> No.4052849

>>4052845
>Because almost every IP they push out besides modern Sonic is great

That's like saying Islamic terrorists barely kill any Americans as long as you ignore 9/11

>> No.4052859

>>4052845
Yeah like Hatsune Miku and Yakuza. And that's it.

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>>4052849
>>4052859
>Yakuza 0 just released, Yakuza Kiwami coming in a few months
>PuyoPuyo Tetris is a hit
>Sonic Mania looks great
>New Valkiriya
>New Shenmu soon™
>7th Dragon III was fun
>Phantasy Star Nova was decent and might help put the series back on track
>Total War pumping out installments and expansions too quickly
>Still top dog for rhythm games

Just because specific games don't appeal to you doesn't mean they don't exist.

That said, Sega has it's fair share of awful games, just as any major company does.

>> No.4052915 [DELETED] 

>>4052890
>>New Valkiriya
>>New Shenmu soon™
Not Sega. Good points on the other games, though.

>> No.4053098

>>4048981
>Got an e-mail from Atari
You sure about that? I'm sure people would like to see that.

I'd love this to be real but there's a lot of reasons to be skeptical. Some guy saw it a few months ago. Never said anything. Domain was registered two weeks ago. Website made in free web site builder, etc.

>> No.4053124

I must admit, I'm curious about this thing. Maybe a smartphone turned into a console ? Using a middle-end ARM CPU that isn't too far from the Switch so developers could port it easily with some downgrade.
We often see smartphone with snapdragon 650 around 140-150$ and you don't have to put all the features of the phone in your console.

>> No.4053126

>>4052823
yep

>> No.4053264

>>4052890
You can add Football Manager, Persona and others Atlus IPs now.

>> No.4053275

>>4051545
>yfw Atari and Sega team up with atgames
https://www.gamespot.com/articles/sega-and-atari-micro-consoles-to-launch-this-fall/1100-6450723/

>> No.4053318

>>4048981
Hasn't Atari died like five times or something

>> No.4053392

>>4053318
They are like cockroach, everytime you think they are dead, they move again.

>> No.4053440

>we live in the timeline where we get a new atari console instead of a new sega console

>> No.4054138
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>>4053098
It wasn't anything secret, just a general marketing email. I'm sure anyone with an Atari account got it.

>> No.4054292

>>4049040
I'm leaning on a low cost steambox type console. They switched the name back to Atari Interactive (original name for the pc publishing division)
And it looks to be of higher quality/price than the flashbacks. If they comeout with a woodgrain box that can play undertale with classic paddles they have a hipster goldmine on their hands.

>> No.4054697

>>4053440
It might or might not interest you to know that considering replying you should buy a RingWide led me to check if Let's Go Island was emulated yet and discover that a 0.5 version of a brand new emulator should be releasing any hour now and I'm actually kind of excited about it so thanks!

Also, check it out it's called TeknoParrot

>> No.4054936

>>4054292
Can Steamboxes do emulation? They're just Linux, right? Something with a paddle that could be loaded with gen 1 ROMs would be nice.

>> No.4055106

>>4054138
I get Atari newsletters and didn't get this. There could be many reasons for that. But an email with an atari mailbox in the from proves exactly as much as an email with a nigerian prince in the from.
I'd love to believe it's real but I've found skepticism to be one of the most important virtues.

>> No.4055112

>>4055106
Dude, have you never heard of google? The news is all over the place. It's not a worldwide hoax to fake a new Atari console.

>> No.4056571

>>4055112
>Dude,
You could have stopped underage shitposting there.

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>>4056571
You don't have to get mad just because you forgot Google existed for a second there.

>> No.4056729

Remember getting that E-mail from Atari about that dumb wrist watch thing that was useless and was essentially no better than a dumb thumb drive in a bracelet and pretty much ended up having nothing delivered? Why would anyone have hopes for this shit when it's mostly just going to be OUYA 2: Atari Boogaloo?

>> No.4056732

>>4056729
For those who don't know:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ujKxVNEHVS0

Yes, Atari literally slapped their name on this shit, and seriously you shouldn't be trusting or even giving a dime to post Driv3r Atari, they're literally just a bunch of hack frauds who just bought the likeness just to scam people and abuse the name recognition, Alone in the Dark: Illuminations and Roller Coaster Tycoon: World is proof enough of their utter incompetence.

>> No.4056752

>>4056732
Thanks for posting that

>> No.4056771

>>4056732
Doesn't seem to be any evidence that that project is actually associated with Atari at all besides this unverified quote on the kickstarter:

>"Atari created video games and arcade gaming, and later pioneered the rise of consoles by bringing arcade gaming into the living room. It's exciting to now bring gaming to another frontier, wearables, with Gameband Atari Edition," said Fred Chesnais, CEO of Atari SA.

Assuming the quote is true, it says "Gameband Atari Edition", which would heavily imply that this is simply a 3rd party product (Gameband) that licensed the Atari name (Atari Edition). I doubt the Atari name and logo is very expensive to license considering it's about all the company has going for it at this point.

This is supposedly an actual Atari product that was apparently funded by Atari and private investors since they're not asking for money. It'll probably still be shit and/or vaporware, but it clearly not a scam begging for kickstarter funds.

>> No.4056774

>>4056771
I still don't trust Atari to deliver anything good after most of their recent games just flat out suck dick and are basically just cash grabbing on the name. At best, it will another flashback, at worst, it will be Coleco Chameleon yet again

>> No.4056792

>>4056774
Coleco Chameleon was fun.
>just cash grabbing on the name.
That's all they've ever done.

>> No.4057018 [DELETED] 

>>4056717
Ah, the smell of underage in the summer. They should be offering preorders for gullible fucks like you.

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>>4051212
>Someone with knowledge of the industry
>Got an e-mail from Atari linking to the site earlier today.

This is what the shills say. Why the fuck would Atari register the domain through GoDaddy and build the site with Wix, hmmmm?

Did you collect enough email addresses yet, Mr Shill?

>> No.4057968

>>4054138
Nice 3rd world grammar, dipshit. Can't Atari hire copywriters with an education?

>> No.4057970

>>4055112
>The news is all over the place.

The shills are all over the place. Anybody with half of an investigative brain cell can see great big warning signs. Not everybody on the internet was born yesterday, you know.

>> No.4058037

I think I speak for all "retro-game freaks" when I say I'm really excited about this mysterious new video entertainment product from Atari. And if it can duplicate the authentic gaming experience of the genuine Atari game consoles I have hooked up in my living room, my wife will thank Atari for letting us clear out some of these cables! LoL!

>> No.4058062

>>4058037
You are so right. My wife's son is really going to appreciate this. I should send him that funny banana picture so he lets me play it with him.

>> No.4060151

>>4048981
Atari was a great system!

>> No.4060241

>>4057018
>>4057968
>>4057970
Jesus, did Atari kill your mother or something? You need to take a break from the internet, kiddo.

>> No.4060790

>>4060241
Nah. Clearly even parents are too young to know anything about Atari.

>> No.4061293

This just in. Breaking news. This week at E3 Atari announced absolutely fucking nothing. Six kids spending their summer on the fourth channel were shocked.

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>>4061293
>Fred Chesnais, CEO of Atari confirms Atari is back in the hardware business when asked at the E3 food court by some tech blogger
Literally who

>> No.4063580

>>4063305
>tfw he was talking about the 77

>> No.4063602

Here's some more info from the guy who saw a prototype:

http://atariage.com/forums/topic/266480-new-atari-console-that-ataribox/?p=3785698


I'm glad VentureBeat was able to speak to Fred Chesnais directly, if only for the fact that I no longer have to be evasive. Being PC-based is about all you need to know at this point anyway. Everything else, we can wait to see how they roll it out.

http://atariage.com/forums/topic/266480-new-atari-console-that-ataribox/?p=3785760

Well, for one thing, it's probably best not to think of it as a full-blown general purpose computer like what you're comparing it to. I don't think it's giving too much away by saying that it's meant to have a home in an entertainment center (although I don't personally want wood grain in my entertainment center). It also would be priced quite a bit less than a traditional computer would typically be. Like I said previously, if they can get the price/performance ratio they were targeting (I think it would be tough), it might have some interest in the type of niche that something like the Nvidia Shield TV occupies. Beyond that, it comes down, of course, to the value-adds (services, games, etc.) that Atari and their partner come up with. I have no idea what direction they went with that (or are planning to go with that). EDIT: Pretty positive that it wouldn't have changed to streaming of any type.

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>>4063602
Yeah this is gonna suck.

>> No.4063792

>>4063614
Starting to sound like it'll be a budget gaming PC with some kind of retro-style interface and maybe some exclusive bloatware that includes licensed Atari emulation while conveniently stealing your credit card information. Maybe they'll be made from those Alienware steam boxes that nobody bought.

>> No.4063801

>>4048982
>Atari return to the hardware business after a 30 year hiatus
>release a wooden console
Not gonna lie, this gets me HARD.

>> No.4063814

>>4063801
>yfw its just a plastic panel with a wood looking decal on it

>> No.4063916

>>4063801
They never released hardware before.

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>>4063614
This symbol means "hope"

It's all some of us have

>> No.4065313

>>4064708
To me, all it really means is hostile take over by scam artists, pretty much just about everything they released in the past decade that isn't some compilation has been some rushed cashgrab or scam.

>> No.4065346

I fucking hate sony and xbox. modern gaming is cancer. i wish atari and sega could come back and make hardware again. consoles shouldnt be computers.

>> No.4066067

>>4065346
Not really their fault, there's absolutely no GPU more powerful than those we have in our PC
As for the CPU, it basically is the same, they could go for some IBM architecture but it wouldn't offer better performance nor a better price than the x86_64. ARM is too specific to the low-energy market although it could probably be interesting on a higher end.

And you can guess than none of them will take a powerpc cpu just to say "look it ISN'T a pc, even though we have a cpu that are used in servers and others shit like this"


But I would sign anyday for Sega's return

>> No.4066071

>>4065346
>consoles shouldnt be computers.
The real Atari produced the 5200 and the XEGS based on their 8 bit computer series.

>> No.4066086

>>4066071
The same goes for Sega, the SG-1000 and the SC-3000 had the same hardware (but not the same amount of ram and rom)

>> No.4067737

>>4048981
You boys wanna come and say hi to us turkeys?
>>>381062597

>> No.4067773

>>4066086
And the dreamcast ran windows CE for fuck's ake

>> No.4067779

>>4067773
Yep, I also hesitate to talk about the Megadrive, using a Motorola 68000, just like the Amiga and the Atari ST
So yeah, no matter the time, console were always computer-like

>> No.4068195

>PC-based
>hackable
>RGB and component video output

Finally, a modern replacement for the Wii for emulation on a CRT?

>> No.4068371

Bet it'll be some shitty android based thing

>> No.4068602

>>4052843
No Atari is dead. It's just a license holder at this point

>> No.4068639

I dont like to troll about things that doesnt even exist (like around 98% of the people who visit 4chan.), but, as things stand, to say this is a 'bad idea' it would be the understatement of the fucking millenium!

Theres ZERO chance this is gonna be anymore than a retro emu box, and what kind of company would try to make a first machine with a power on par with the XBonerX? Theres no way this project will stand against 3 companies with decades of experience. No one is gonna buy this.

If i wanted an atari emubox i would fabricate a retrofuture case, slap a x86 sbc, slap some woodgrain vinyl and done!

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>>4068195
>RGB and component video output

That would be amazing if they actually put analog output on the thing as a nod to the retro community they know will hack the shit out of it for emulation

>> No.4068771

>>4049040
Rumors suggest it's a new console with PC parts, not like Ouya. So my guess is that it's a very low end PC with a couple exclusives like Tempest 4000 or some shit

>> No.4068783

>>4068771
Atari 2600 used entirely off the shelf parts. They're just following tradition.

>> No.4068845

>>4057970
You are just denying something that's everywhere. Don't you feel like a moron?

>> No.4068846

>>4063916

Atari hasn't?

>> No.4068858

>>4068845
Not that anon but it's not everywhere in fact it's nowhere. At this point it's a video and random rumors.

>> No.4068865

>>4068771
>So my guess is that it's a very low end PC with a couple exclusives like Tempest 4000 or some shit
I'd actually buy that and be happy with, so much the better in the unlikely event that it doesn't die on arrival

>> No.4068913

>>4052829
Sega left the console market because it couldn't compete with Sony and Microsoft spending literal billions to make a foothold in the console market

They werent like Nintendo where they had the loyal fanbase and money to weather the storm in the console market in the longrun.

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>> No.4069051

I suspect it will be an android box with a MAME emulator prepackaged inside. It will send you to their web site where you can download arcade roms for between 2 to 5 dollars American,from years 1980 to 1995 or so.

>> No.4069118

>>4052023
>Maybe it'll come with a color vector monitor
Now that would be fucking awesome, like a color updated Vectrex. I think the Chinese can still deliver new CRTs given a large enough order and XY monitor chassis are easy enough to make new.

>> No.4069191

>>4068846
The company calling itself Atari has no connection to Bushnell's Atari or even the companies it was split into.

>> No.4069352

>>4068913
Not exactly, they have a loyal fanbase, smaller than the Nintendo one but that's not the issue. Their main problem was financial: they lost a lot of money in the second part the 90s and the arcade market was declining too, so unlike Nintendo who had the GameBoy to earn easy money, Sega had nothing left. With a debt of 4 billion, of course they had to give up, the Dreamcast should have sold way better than what it did in order to just not drown.