/vr/ - Retro Games

>>4058804
If it's less than $70 then sign me up

I still like this one and it's only $20

>>4058804
bluetooth? is that any good?

what happened to game port

>>4058816
Bluetooth is great. You can also use it with its USB cable in PC mode if you prefer a corded setup.

>>4058804
where can I buy it??

>>4058845
Won't be out till probably November at the earliest. It was just announced. Then you can get it on Amazon.

Is it going to have four shoulder buttons? Clicky sticks?

Why not use dual shock instead?

I hope they fixed the dpad misreading diagonal inputs this time around.

>>4058905
You have to change your bluetooth stack for dual shocks to work then no other bluetooth devices will work and 8bitdo controllers are flatter so more pocket friendly, though the analog sticks do look kinda tall. They also work with Wii or the NES30s did so I see no reason these wouldn't.

>>4058927
Just came in here to complain about this.

It'd be nice if these shills would at least answer questions. :^)

>>4058889
It has 4 shoulder buttons. The NES30 Pro has L3 & R3. I don't see why this model wouldn't.

Not retro

>>4058991
I'll probably get one then

>>4058996
Are you fucking kidding me? It's a retro style controller capable of playing retro games, AKA Retropie. Or even an actual console with the Bluetooth adapters.

That is one of the ugliest things I've ever seen.
Don't get me wrong, I like the idea, but don't go with those colors, it's awful.

>>4058804
Kind of wish it had grip handles, but oh well. It looks nice.

>>4059047
But... that's the original SNES colors.

>>4059243
No they aren't you bloody americuck.

>>4059052
uhm...like a dualshock??????

>>4059254
Americuck here, I have to agree with the bongistanian on this one. Not even sure why they changed that for the NA release.

>>4058804
does it have l and r triggers?

>>4059254
Listen twatwaffle. The version they showed was the American version with the American colors whether you like it or not. They are keeping with tradition. I thought you were bitching about the grey tone.

>>4059263
It has 4

>>4058804
oh hey I have one of those but mine looks a little different.

>>4058804
I'm glad you assholes are finally agreeing that the analog sticks are in the correct position. It's settled.

>>4059302
I don't agree. Sega/Xbox got it right.

>>4058804
>usa style button and colour scheme

into the trash it goes.

>>4059256
>>4059283
>>4058905
We get it. You use a PS3 controller with your phone.

>>4058804
I saw a similar controller at Wal-Mart yesterday, but that's for the XBONE.

Is there a better alternative to the MOGA Pro out there? Specifically a bluetooth controller I'm after needs to have:

A rechargeable lithium ion battery.
360/Dualshock-style layout as far as buttons/sticks.
And an integrated clip to hold the device (An S8 Plus in my case)

>>4059308
>>4059265
>>4059243
>>4059047
guys...

It's not like they had not already released both versions with previous models.

>>4058804
>only 4 face buttons
>stick in wrong place
Into the trash it goes.

>>4059348
I don't understand why anyone uses Sony's stick placement, it's objectively inferior to your pic related, as SEGA, Microsoft, and Nintendo have shown us many, many times.

>>4059321
You could get a dualshock clip for your phone and use a PS3 controller.

>>4058804

if they didn't fix the input delay then i dont want it

>>4059381
bluetooth = lag

>>4059393

can you elaborate? i'm open to fixes

>>4059394
Any wireless controller has input lag, it's basically part of the deal, however small. The solution is to wire up, but even standard USB polling is slower than say, a retro game console, so there's lag there too.

>>4059419
>>4059419

thanks for the suggestion

>>4059338
>forwhatpurpose.tiff

>>4059393
And you'll never fix it, no matter how hard you try.

Feels awful

>>4059419
>even standard USB polling is slower

You can increase that to be faster iirc. Maybe not on this gamepad though. My mouse can do that.

>>4059467

too bad there isn't such a thing as lag compensation

>>4058804
why not just get a dualshock 4?

>>4059472
>Software in the console accurately predicts your inputs before it receives them over the bluetooth
It's almost the ultimate technology, just take it one step further and people will be able to play games just by intending to. It's the LP generation's final solution.

>>4059350
Beautiful symmetry and the understanding that the D-pad's main purpose is to move your character in a 2D game and rather than select potions and open menus. A big, prominent and proud-looking d-pad makes the controller more universal. It is selfish and arrogant of a game company to design their controller to be only ideal to play the games from their own systems, which is what the "analog stick first" controllers do by giving priority to modern DMC/CoD derivatives and providing the user with tiny/ugly/barely functional d-pads that "probably nobody will use".

>>4059731
>implying analog controller shouldn't take priority for consoles that mostly have 3D videogames

Stop being a dingas. If you want 2D, use a controller designed for it, like Saturn or SNES.

adfsaergad

>>4059309
Plot twist: i dont own and never played on the ps3

>>4059743
Are you illiterate or just fucking retarded?

>>4059309
What the hell do phones have to do with anything?

>>4058804
Yeah, I'm getting it.

Looks like it's perfect for indie retro-style games and for using the Retro Receiver for Super Famicom that 8Bitdo and Analogue made.
I rarely give a damn about emulators.

I have the original Super Famicom controllers but I think the 8Bitdo controllers are great substitutes which feel really authentic, they also have very little input lag which is really nice.

>>4058812
This is the better layout, by far. I wish this were standard. How does the dpad feel? I might be sold on this one!

>>4058804

>joysticks

Staying the fuck away. Any controller that has both just screams "we have a joystick so it doesn't matter if the d-pad is barely-functional shit" to me.

>>4059869
They've released dpad only gamepads in the past. It'll be fine.

>>4059747
If i dont have a ps3 how autistic would it be to have its control? Stop acting like /v/

>>4059472
Some AIs in fighting games have that. They read your input so they can react before the frame starts to draw of you even starting your move.

>>4058812
my understanding is that this one has shit build quality. Damn shame if that's the case

>>4060083
I really hope its good. It'd be a controller for classic and modern gaming alike.

Hows this one?
I want to grab something for my Switch because the default dog controller doesnt handle games with diagonals like Blaster Master well at all.

>>4060353
It's good. If you have the bux go ahead and buy that and then buy the snes one when it comes out. I'd hold off on it if you're in a tight budget.

>>4058804
Joypad with analog stick must has a grip.

>>4059419
>>4059393
>USBs 8ms of input lag
>noticeable
Also post how much bluetooth lags by, or GTFO.

>>4060353
i held this controller at a frys store

man its quality as fuck

well worth the asking price

>>4058804
It looks like it only has 2 shoulder buttons and 4 buttons on the right thumb area (excluding pressing the right joy stick down.)

Does anyone (including these guys) have a game pad have 4 shoulder buttons and 6 buttons in the right area?

>>4060353
I have the NES30 Pro. It's okay.
The entire setup is kind of awkward. It defaults to DInput instead of XInput, so you have to hold X while powering it up to use XInput. Meanwhile you need to hold Y while powering it up to connect to a Switch. This means you don't have to re-pair it if you want to use it on multiple systems, but it's weird regardless.
Besides that, the d-pad is a little wonky and I think the analogs report strange values. The rest is fine.

>>4058804
Boggles my mind that N64 didn't use this controller design. The snes controller is comfy.

>>4059321
GameSir products are alright/maybe better than MOGA

they also work on PC (as Xinput devices), also work corded if you want to minimize input lag

they have like 3 models with built-in phone clips

I have the T1S model (mimicks a DS4 shape) and the only complaint I have is diagonals are a little too sensitive, I find myself accidentally crouch crawling instead of running right or left in Wario GBA for example

the sticks though are tuned great as far as 3rd party controllers go, extremely usable for modern PC games

>>4061106
>>4059321
diagonals on the d-pad*

the analog sticks are great

this is now a stealth switch thread. are any of you excited for arms?

>>4061014
Not the anon you're replying to but BT lags by infinity if you're far enough away. It gets slightly better as you get closer. If you're not aware of this it's the appropriate time of year for you to have joined us here.

>>4061207
what about Wi-Fi Direct like the Shield controllers use?

>>4060353

Do NOT listen to these shills:
>>4060361
>>4061024
>>4061040

It's bad. The D-Pad's circuit board is designed wrong; you're going to have an awful time with any game that relies on successful diagonal inputs, or anything that makes a hard-distinction between horizontal and vertical inputs.

You can't play fighters on this thing. You can't play Alien Soldier on this thing. You can't even play fuckin' Sonic, Castlevania, or Contra on this thing. It's well-designed otherwise but for actually playing actual retro games, the D-Pad is straight up shit.

And the sticks aren't too great either. Deadzones ahoy.

>>4058804
>PS4 style analog sticks
How can you fuck up so much?
Why not put the Dreamcast analog stick and d-pad while you are at it?

>>4061325
im extremely disappointed

Yeah man. Fucking sweet

You should buy 4. One for you, one for your wife, one for your wife's son and one for your wife's boyfriend.

>>4058804
my wife and I both love them for our RetroPie setup, don't know about Android or PC though

>>4061282
Also infinite lag if your far enough away. kek.
In theory wifi could have worse latency due to more more overhead. But transfer rate could make up for that. Especially when you factor in signal strength. BT might have trouble across a large room where as wifi could be solid from the next room.

>>4061325
Yeah bad d-pad kills it. Read some other reviews before asking here and they said the same.
Dunno why the other posters here are being insincere about it.

Lets see if Hori can deliver a good alternative pad.

>>4058812

That thing is a piece of shit and you can't comfortably reach the d-pad or buttons.

>>4061325
I have the US NES version which I would imagine is identical aside from the case and have never had any issue with the d-pad, even on the specific games you mentioned. And I'm well aware of the differences between good d-pads and shit ones.

Main problem I've had, which applies to most controllers, is that the thing needs more buttons for controlling emulators and stuff without relying on combinations of the main buttons which could conflict with some games. It has two extra buttons on the bottom edge, one is remappable, the other isn't. If it had like 8, it'd be perfect.

>>4062129
Mine's the NES coloured model too. If you're really not having any issues with yours, lucky you, I guess. It's really unfortunate because I really love how the D-Pad itself feels under my thumb, but the bad reading kills it.

>>4058935
I just use mine wired.

>>4062476
>wired
No thanks.

>>4059321
I fucking hate my Moga Pro. The deadzone on the joysticks is atrociously huge, and buttons are too hard to press, and the d-pad is kinda shit. Not to mention the small but noticeable lag.

Just get a DS3 or DS4 clip instead. Those are actually competent, very low latency controllers.

>>4058804
I have the FC30 and I really like it a lot. I Don't really like the look of the pro versions of the FC30 or the NES30, but this super nintendo pro model looks great. I'll probably get it.

How is the general quality of the D-Pads on 8bitdo's stuff?

>>4063109

Short answer: bad.

Long answer: >>4061325

>>4058804
It's missing a 6 button layout and analog triggers, they are almost there.

But I don't think they will ever release their receivers for Genesis or Saturn.

>>4061106
enjoy your chinese malware