/vr/ - Retro Games

>>4044290
You can't be serious. You're trolling, right? This has to be trolling.

>>4044290
>literally "babby's first RPG"
>wrecking anybody
If you just wanted to start a thread about Final Fantasy Mystic Quest you could have just posted music.

yeah man that first battle was pretty hard, good thing I figured out there was an attack button

>>4044290
I couldn't get past jabu jabu...
Fuck you I was 7

>>4044290
The hilarious thing about FFMQ is that since it's so "easy" bosses aren't balanced at all.

It's totally possible to get both your party members stoned during boss fights.

>>4044294
>>4044313
>>4044318
I ran away from fights, leaving my party underleveled.
>>4044325
Some of the status affecting bosses were ridiculous.

>>4044290
Someone at Squaresoft went "well our games are selling like shit overseas CERTAINLY must be because they are too complex! Let's dumb them the fuck down."

I got my ass kicked in every game I played until I was like 9, I was intimately familiar with the first two to three stages in every game I played.

The first game I ever beat without some kind of warp zone was Donkey Kong Country and I rejoiced with every ounce of autistic fury that I had because that was a long and bumpy road.

I actually never "raged" at a game until after then, I had no concept of "beating" a game.

>>4044325
that also applies to almost every encounter in the last few areas of the game if you aren't overleveled like the game expects you to be. enemies get the initiative and if they use the right status effects then you just lose. sure, the game lets you retry any battle, but it's still dumb.

the defend mechanic was neat though; i'd like to see that in an actually decent game. pity it's only necessary in ffmq with min-level runs, which are super mega dumb.

every time I try I get frustrated and give up before the 3rd dungeon, I'm considering suicide

>>4044290
Is mystic quest the ancestor of lufia?

this thread is fucking awful

These place never fails to find new ways to disappoint me

>>4044290
more like wrecked my ears
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SUGDp39srk0

>>4044859
>>4044313
The games music is really too good
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdWiyWgSdzc&index=4&list=PLe0LPbpC0Di6JJ5sSgp58tZsvOlddBtdI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0UNwLHA6x1Y&list=PLe0LPbpC0Di6JJ5sSgp58tZsvOlddBtdI&index=5
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0UntJvpjABg&list=PLe0LPbpC0Di6JJ5sSgp58tZsvOlddBtdI&index=7
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=saqiswTUOj8&index=8&list=PLe0LPbpC0Di6JJ5sSgp58tZsvOlddBtdI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lKlboLq0_AQ&index=11&list=PLe0LPbpC0Di6JJ5sSgp58tZsvOlddBtdI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ChDgocUcGMw&index=15&list=PLe0LPbpC0Di6JJ5sSgp58tZsvOlddBtdI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s9CyAvVuwz0&index=16&list=PLe0LPbpC0Di6JJ5sSgp58tZsvOlddBtdI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2qkBT_6klKs&index=18&list=PLe0LPbpC0Di6JJ5sSgp58tZsvOlddBtdI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mDjmoA_7Meo&list=PLe0LPbpC0Di6JJ5sSgp58tZsvOlddBtdI&index=19
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3O2k8kdbn8c&list=PLe0LPbpC0Di6JJ5sSgp58tZsvOlddBtdI&index=20
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OOZw35By9f0&index=22&list=PLe0LPbpC0Di6JJ5sSgp58tZsvOlddBtdI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Tj_CsCt6vY

This shit right here. That fucking glider stage man. Fuck that shit.

>>4044290
I loved Mystic Quest. Played it at 5, my gateway to rpg games.

>>4044859
Are you fucking kidding me. This game has stellar music.

>>4045335
but it did. after hearing those, it made everything else sound worse.

>>4044384
7th Saga has a Defend option during combat, but that game is hard as shit. It's entirely possible and quite likely that you will die during your first encounter outside the starting town if you meet up with a Wyvern at all. The Hermits though aren't hard at all. Not to mention there's a boss that is essentially one huge reason to never grind in the game, as he levels up with you.

>>4044290

>>4045809

Did somebody actually think those were good character designs?

>>4044290
It's just me or Mystic Quest feels like it originally started as a Gameboy game but got ported to the Snes/Sufami in mid-development?

I don't know, it has a strong Gameboy feel to me somehow.

>>4044290
Why would you ever waste time out of your life playing a piece of shit game like FF Dumb Burger Edition

>>4044290
How do you lose at Mystic Quest? You can literally be carried by the party guests 99% of the game.

Young Merlin. These fucking minecart skateboard levels are the bane of my existence.

>>4045781
so i looked it up, and it seems like it's focus attack + defend all-in-one. wouldn't that just slow down the game?

ffmq's is completely different. it's simply damage-reduction if done on yourself but it's an uber-cover if done on your teammate (teammate takes zero damage and you don't take any additional damage from attacks that would have hit you both). gives you a surefire way to get off healing so variable turn order doesn't screw you over. so, a game can retain that element of uncertainty with turn order and put you up against bosses that can two-shot you without it ever being bs. it's bs in ffmq low-level runs because the game shits the bed with status effects, but it could allow for nail-biting-yet-fair battles in a well-designed game.

>>4044290
i beat this without the life spell, which is apparently impressive? i dont know man, i just didnt find the thing. this was before i had internet

I didn't even know how to read of course I couldn't play this fucking game.

>>4044290
h-how? this is somebody from /v/ trolling right?

>>4045436

>>4044621
anon, this is a really good game. there's no reason to be afraid

>>4046424
Have you ever played a game that you find really easy, then handed the controller over to someone else and watched them suck shit through a straw?

Kids today stuggle to play through the super casualized modern Mario games, is it hard to believe that kids of yesterday might also not do to well against a casualized Final Fantasy?

>>4046525
I think I might just be too shit at games to fully enjoy it, idk what to do

>>4046534
Wait a second...

...could this be the related to why kids these days watch lets-plays instead of actually playing games?!

Hmm, but which is the cause and which is the effect? Do they suck at playing because they watch LPs, or do they watch LPs because they suck at playing. Truly a chicken-or-egg scenario...

>>4046557
You have dishonored your thumbs, faggot. You must seek a doctor and have them surgically removed to prevent them from bearing any further shame!

>>4046560

I don't think the watch letsplayers because they suck, most letsplayers suck too. If anything they think sucking at the games is like some kind of funny meme,

They watch lets players because they're popular and they think their weird over reactions are funny.

They could also watch lets plays because they can't afford the game themselves or to see if it's any good. A shitty way of guaging weather or not a game is good would to be watching the fucking game grumps play it, but what can you do, kids don't really have good judgement.

>>4044290
Such fond memories of playing this game with my best bro and NEVER GETTING PAST THE FUCKING STAGE 4 BOSS AGH.

Only game 5 year old me called "worst game ever". 10 years later I returned to it and it became one of my favorites.

>>4046571
>but what can you do, kids don't really have good judgement.

I think that phrase alone could sum up about 10%-15% of human history.

>>4045813
It is considering the universe.

>>4045813
The elephant is my favorite character design.

>>4046574
Thats pretty hilarious because 5 year old me hated this too.

Only difference is I still hate this piece of garbage.

>>4046574
My Sharruba.

Pic related, mostly because when your team gets KO'd before you've saved at the Inn for the first time, it's game over and the intro sequence takes decades to get through. The only time I did make it through a few towns/cities, I had to give the game back to a friend/library/can't remember.

The wild west boss is horrible. As a kid I assumed I was doing something wrong because it would just never die.

>>4046560
No they do that because their parents won't get them games outside of rare occasions and they're too dumb to search videos without commentary.

>>4047542
Only once have I ever made it past that boss without a Game Genie, and it took long enough that I ran out of time not even halfway through the next stage.

>>4047535
Take your trip off you massive faggot.

>>4044320
OoT kicked your ass?
Listen here you little faggot, everyone has to start somewhere and it's okay if you can't beat a game on your first try, especially as a child or someone new to gaming. All that matters is that you're having fun and doing your best. You can't improve without failing a few times.

>>4044335
Slow and complex games are almost always doomed to be niche products, so they had a point.

>>4046557
Use a guide if you have to. Make sure you collect a few hearts and healing items. You'll get the hang of it eventually and you won't even need the guide anymore.

>>4047926
JRPGs aren't complex though.

>>4047924
Nice job telling that 7 year old how life is 20 years too late.

>>4047915
>trip
>no tripcode
First the "images cancel out sage" guy and now this.

>>4046062
Muh nigga

>>4044290
Mystic Quest is literally the worst RPG I've ever played.

>>4044290
this game only wrecked me because I went out of my way on one playthrough to grind the gold to buy the bombs to tell Tristram to fuck off so I can get the dragon claw at the beginning.
But the game is such an ass, that it wrecked my plans by following the scripts.
Rest of the game was easy mode at least... Think Pazzuzzu's tower was the first bit of slowing on the OP overlevelled pain train.

>>4046574
How can you call this boring pile of shite a favourite?
I went back to it at least a half dozen times just because I had it, and wanted to say I beat it.
Everything. Repeat, everything about this game is shit.

>>4048073
>I don't like so it's shit
People may like things that you don't like, get over it.

>>4044290

>>4048194
I should also mention that I was 10 and didn't any real problems until I ran into hordes of succubus on the lower levels.

>>4047915
>>4047973
It's a Digimon reference, I felt it apt and I use it in most /digi/ threads

>>4047929
The secrets and puzzles are easy peasy or fun enough to find on my own, its just the combat I'm having tons of trouble with.

>>4047948
This if 4chan. Everyone here is stunted and in need of some good advice.

>>4048408
Hearts and healing items help with that. Other than that, it's just learning patterns and getting the hang of things.

>>4047924
lol that was unexpected

>>4048194
>>4048201
Same. Nothing was actually challenging until this fucker showed up.

>>4044294
I mean...in fairness he did take the time to specify "as a kid". Most kids suck at video games. (Granted I've never actually played Mystic Quest, so maybe it really is that piss easy that your average 7 year old could beat it.)

>>4046557
How are you on /vr/ and not /v/. Most /vr/ titles would stomp your shit in. /v/ is where games handhold you to death and don't even let you lose.
Though I imagine if you're bad enough to have trouble with LttP, you'd somehow manage to lose an unloseable game.

>>4048194
AH Fresh Meat.

>>4045829
a lot of the monster sprites are uncannily similar to the SaGa/FF Adventure ones

>>4049029
not the anon you're replying to but this kind of elitism really belongs back on /v/. go back please.

>>4049029
>t. beat megaman 2 with save states once

>>4044884
that battle music is so fucking good

I have memories of my dad literally screaming at the TV because he kept dying in this game

>>4044313
>babby's first rpg
>still brought a strategy guide

>>4048465
Can confirm. I was 7 when my older brother got this game, and I beat it no problem. I even beat the Dark King the hard way because I didn't think to try and heal him to death.

>>4048465

Mystic Quest was specifically designed with the express purpose of being easy for young American children who had never played an RPG before to beat.

However, I've never played Mystic Quest myself so it's entirely possible they failed horribly and made it bullshit or cryptic.

>>4044683
ancestor of SaGa, I think

>>4050424
the first SaGa game was like 3 years before it so no.

>>4048413
Not the same guy but you are a good guy, thanks.

>>4047924
/vr/ is so much better than /v/ it makes my fucking head hurt

>>4044290

I was 12 and cried literal tears. Hours I went at this puzzle solved it once randomly only to die in the next room.

>>4047924

>>4047915
take that stuff back to /b/ , get over yourself, then come back.

I never beat Brandish before because I never had the patience to grind as a kid (along with other stupid decisions and bad reflexes) and hence never made it past floor 3. Now, that's a cakewalk.

>>4047915
You're the only one shitting up this thread m8. At least he's contributing.

Battletoads

>>4044335
Like persona?

I....I actually got stuck on mystic quest the first time I played it.

I rented it for a weekend when I was in middle school (or...maybe late grade-school? not sure), so I only got to play it for a few days, but I distinctly remember getting stuck on a specific puzzle in that tower in the middle of the map. It involved pushing a pillar across the floor and then re-entering from another level and use it to leap across a gap. Thing is, I assumed that the pillar would reset it's position as soon as a I left the floor (like most objects do), so I bent my brain for hours trying to figure out an (obviously impossible) method to get across without moving to a different floor......far more hours than I played prior to that specific puzzle, combined. It was a weekend wasted.

...The next time I rented it, my younger brother suggested that I just try moving the pillar anyways. I called him a moron and then promptly moved the pillar as soon as he left the room.

I went on to beat the remainder of the game that weekend (which actually isn't that much of a feat. It's not that long).

>>4044884
agreed. replayed mystic quest this past winter and enjoyed it. this was the first final fantasy i played when i was 6 or 7 years old.

>>4050742
Honestly? Brandish wrecks a lot of people at adulthood too...

...er, uh, or so I heard.

Gargoyles and Maximum Carnage for Genesis

>>4052390
Cant speak for Gargoyles, but isn't Maximum Carnage legitimately difficulty (or maybe it just had bad controls? I vaguely remember something like that).

>>4053969
maximum carnage is hard. the many boss battles just wear you down. even when the credits roll at the end of the credits carnage gets back up again and you have to fight him again.

>>4054019
You're thinking of Donkey Kong Country.

>>4046083
This is slightly incorrect, I've run LLGs of this. There is no damage reduction with the defend command. If a character defends their ally they will take all of the damage - nothing is negated or reduced.

>>4044621
It took me almost twenty fucking years to beat this game. It was the first I ever played but I was terrible at it and every other game I touched. Every time I started a file I would get my shit wrecked as soon as I reached the Dark World. I finally sat down for a few days and beat the damn thing five or six years ago and it was so satisfying.

>>4045781
Defend increases ap