/vr/ - Retro Games

=== CURRENT EVENTS ===

QUMP
-Mapping deadline reached; awaiting release?
-https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Zlfb2U2VCeS70uS6Klc2ZEOC9KtnYyCyBXEmeetjh0c/edit
-https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mp_ZqCZPJKk

OP
-2016 torrent of idgames archive is gone; needs replacement?

=== NEWS ===

[5-28] Another Project MSfiX'd update; Doom monsters working again
http://www.mediafire.com/file/p21m3fwycfvh153/projectmsfixd_vr052717.pk3

[5-28] Hunter's Moon Version 2.9 released
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=30942

[5-28] Anon release; an Arnold Schwarzenegger soundboard skin
https://www.dropbox.com/s/uj4ikgv5m6psquy/Ahnold.wad?dl=0

[5-27] Call of Doom 0.85 released
http://www.moddb.com/mods/call-of-doom-cod-style-advanced-weapons-mod/addons/call-of-doom-v085-cod-style-70-weapons-for-doom

[5-26] Runic Division by S'Arais, pre-release 1
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/94070-2-map-wad-name-pending-working-name-runic-division-pre-release-1/
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=42&t=56564

[5-22] Shadow Warrior Classic updated with more prototypes, going as far back as 1994; asset rips also done
http://store.steampowered.com/app/238070/Shadow_Warrior_Classic_1997/
https://www.dropbox.com/s/4dq9dbhyzljhg2o/swprototypes-assets.rar?dl=0

[5-21] Quickstart archived updated
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B47V8l2eVZKxRU82S3JkZkdBRXM
magnet:?xt=urn:btih:M7UY7BPNE7BT3Y5EFVYGGS6RSSQ6WS66

[5-21] Intermission E2M4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O7EvK_CIL9U

[5-21] BloodGDX beta released
http://m210.duke4.net/index.php/files/viewdownload/9-java/50-bloodgdx

[5-20] D4T 2.0 released
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?p=965349&sid=f15342e8cbcea51bd4f76d5c41ad8278#p965349

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If you would like to submit any news or your personal map or mod releases here, or want to contribute to the OP, please reply/backlink to the OP or this post.

discuss terry wads

>>4026863
lol casul hipster shitter detected

shitposting

Doomguy is pleased to meet you.

This seems a little more restrained compared to them just shooting ice beams all over the damned place, gonna make the gibs of tougher enemies do more damage but it's still a lot of fun watching crowds of monsters collapse from infighting and frozen bodies exploding all over the place

>>4026879
>This seems a little more restrained
With the side effect of ludicrous gibs.

>>4026858
MetaDoom v4 is out!

https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=53010
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6M5USNt24A

>>4026858
Strafe came out on Steam.

>>4026927
kys

>>4026927
not retro

>>4026927
My favorite meme post

Blood (1997)

>>4026927
It was kind of shit. All the nice ideas are overshadowed by really terrible ones.

>>4026926
Whats special with this mod?

>>4026965
>https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=53010
reading is difficult

>>4026967
I hate reading, I LOVE SHOOTING.

>>4026968
Then you're going to hate my Doom Text Adventure game.

>>4026969
A LOT

>>4026958
It's very apparent that the lead devs wanted to do more wacky marketing than actually making a product. There's a fairly good number of oversights in regards to user feedback, it's ridiculous. And what exactly happened in the two years between the 'banned commercial' and release? The game doesn't exactly have a lot of content going for it.

How can I tell if a mod works with Doom Touch?

>>4026989

>>4026926
Holy shit, awesome.

>>4026926
I hope he let's people use his assets, the Doom 4 mods should take a moment to use his mastermind, cybermancubus, and summoner sprites

>>4026989
Just trying.

Are there any good wads based on Alien?

>>4027030
Nope!

>>4027030
Yes

>>4027037
Could you name a few?

This would be fun if I could properly secure the headset on my head.
But putting it on the table also works

>>4026927
brutal strafe dlc when?

>>4027046
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=45213

Regarding previous comments made in the past thread:

I am genuinely not trying to sound like an asshole when I say this, but the fact that you can't load gameplay mods with certain maps shouldn't stop you from giving those maps a try without them.

Do not restrict yourselves from the experiences.

>>4027060
Uhh, that's kinda obvious, my dude. Why would you sound like an asshole while telling people that?

>My Fav
That was a ride.

What's the difference between D4D and D4T?

>>4027109
Same as the difference between DOOD and MOOM.

>>4027109
>D4D
The original mod, effectively the posterchild of current GZDoom modding.

>D4T
A fork intended for D-Touch and Zandronum compatibility, taking its own direction on which you may or may not like.

>>4027115
Why does MOOM guy look like the autistic screeching guy?

>>4027118
That's what too much ripping and tearing does to a man. Regular berserker packs don't help.

>>4027118
DOOD guy looks like this

>>4027131
Are theit any wads where you play an evil character fighting angelic enemies? I'm looking for a sprite assets for angelic allies

>>4027118
That's one thing, but what the fuck is happening above him?

>>4027135
Imps have to reproduce too man

>>4027134
Not that I know of, I can't remember where I got this image, it was some vroom meme at one point

>>4027140
Man I just need to learn how to make sprites... maybe I could rip some modles from diablo or beyonetta

>>4027117

though d4t feels a bit more rewarding, and is MP compatible

it lacks only a proper doomslayer skin

http://nathanandersonart.tumblr.com/tagged/doom
Some dude is drawing demon redesigns
I think they're neat

The imp has a tiny flaccid dongus for some reason

>>4027147
The only one I've liked universally was the guy doing the doom 3 themed ones, most of the others get too fleshy and tumorus for my liking, I like this guy's archvile though

>>4027147
Where do classic cacos even sit on the hell totem pole, I mean they must be beneath the hell nobles, but they are the blue bloods

>>4027147
Definitely not petting this caco

>>4027152
I'd even pet the doom 3 and 4 cacos, not that one

>>4027147
dongus the cacodemon

this framerate is completely haram, even playing in software mode in qzdoom, and for some reason the new version of of GzDoom crashes with Bulley Eye

having a shit PC is enfuriating

What's your favorite Half-Life mod?

>>4027170
Ricochet

>>4027170
I love the spooky ones.

>>4027182
Like paranoia?

Is there a download out there with all the cacoward winners and runner ups?

>>4027184
And Afraid of Monsters.

>>4027168
What's your mod?

>>4027185
Not in the OP.

There was a guy a few threads back who posted on though.

I'm also gonna include all the cacowards in the Doom Quickstart Archive v3.

>>4027185
>>4027198
Found it:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B4vqbnzKsM0HampIWVlZM29tX0E/view

>>4027198
>>4027202

thanks anon

>>4027197

Bullet-Eye

>>4027185
https://drive.google.com/drive/u/3/folders/0B2vxc5_E7pmjcGMxVkFCeTU4aGM
Alternative link to Cacowards folder only:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B4vqbnzKsM0HampIWVlZM29tX0E

>replaying Quake
I love the music and atmosphere, but the guns just aren't satisfying to fire. They barely have any animations to them, they just recoil back a bit and settle.

>>4027168
what's the problem? it's over 35 isn't it?

although i don't know how it's got 43 frames per second from 35 milliseconds, that should be 29 frames per second i would have thought

>>4027209
I like it when I cause gibs from the double barrel shotgun.

>>4026927
Worst blunder of the century. Its absolute crap garbage.

>>4027215
Quad damage is a lot of fun, but the standard gunplay is shit until you get a rocket launcher.

>>4027168
>43 fps
>in gzdoom

what the fuck happened?

Why did they put stuff like bloom, SSAO and tonemapping into GZ when they were just going to use the ugliest techniques for them?

>>4027213

it would not be much of a problem if it were stable, bun it dips to 30+ when things get hectic and you really notice it

>>4027236

shit old battered PC thats what happened

>>4026926
Nice job, Kinsie.
You even managed to add the Sawcubus.

>>4027168
Specs from PC?

>>4027270
I like the SSAO, but it's kinda bothersome on otherwise fullbright surfaces like lava, for example.

>>4027279

>trying to compile Zandronum from source code
>get this
What the hell am I doing wrong?

inb4 Just download official build. I just want to learn how to build programs, so I try to do it as much as I can

>>4027302
Ok, it's not too bad in comparison to other PC's I've seen (like the single-core Celeron a friend has), and most probably the iGPU is the limiting factor if using GZDoom, try using a lower resolution? I game on a laptop too, same generation with a better CPU (i3-2350M) but same iGPU, I can test the mod later to see if the problem is the CPU itself or the iGPU if you want

If the iGPU is the problem, then consider getting either a better PC entirely or those mini-PCIe eGPU adapters online and a budget GPU

>>4027307
hard to say, maybe a missing #include.

>>4027326
Oh, I see now, thanks. There is #include "network/servercommands.h" that leads to a missing file. Strange, I thought I've installed everything mentioned on Zandronum wiki.

I'm a fuckin' idiot who's never managed to get the Gravis Ultrasound patches to work in Zandronum and GZDoom. So I have Doom 3 BFG installed and there's a folder with the instruments and a gravis.cfg file, what the fuck do I do with it? 'Cuz I really like how BFG and XBLA's versions of the soundtrack sound (As seen here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=la7ymj94eyk

I really wish I knew how to code. All these Aliens motion tracker implementations always end up looking nice, but fail to actually make the "beep" response vary with the distance of the closest detected object.

>>4026927
>>4027221
>billed as an ironically edgy, '90s nostalgia retro FPS, actually looks kind of cool from the trailer
>is released as a neo-rougeliek with vaguely retro FPS aesthetics
>bugs out the wazoo, not even an early access release
>neither a good roguelike nor a good FPS
Strafe is a testament to everything wrong with the indie gaming scene today.

>>4027382
The best thing to come from it was the soundtrack

Hey guys what are some mappacks that go well with Project Brutality

>>4027392
mark's hell on earth mappack was designed for burt lamb and its offshoots

>>4027328
I've fucked up CMake step. Don't fuck up CMake step, guys.

>>4027386
Its soundtrack gives me a headache

>>4027392
oh hey guess ill use this opportunity to complain about how there isnt a jotaro kujo mod yet

TWO DAYS UNTIL 20TH ANNIVERSARY

>>4027271
feel u man. my graphic card fried some time ago and now im stuck just with zdoom, cant run modern mods at all

b-bbbut I thought Tom hated Doom !

>>4027462
Savage.

>>4027465
UNATCO?

>>4027470
...
quit screwing around

>>4027462
Oh boy!

bzplasma confirmed full meltdown mode

>>4027480
I can't believe the guy who made a big spectacle about how he was going to quit Doom didn't actually quit Doom.

>>4027480
wasn't he quitting?

>>4027480
who the fuck is that?

>>4027492
the biggest literally who in doom

angry that he isn't a twitch partner for streaming brutal doom

>>4027480
>he didn't actually stop streaming

>>4027492
A Literally Who who thinks he isn't.

>>4027485
quitting streaming isn't quitting doom altogether

>>4027503
He didn't actually quit that, either.

>>4027516
oh never mind then.

>>4026873
quality terry map

I'm anxious I'll be kicked off a project for taking too long with my contribution.
It's practically done but I keep running into issues I have with it.

>>4027545
do you consider it perfect?
do you consider it good enough?
is it done?

if you answered yes to any of those, you're good to go

>>4027545
Are you the QUMP guy?

>>4027545
keep in mind one of the TNT2 projects has been going on for seven years

you're all right

How much do the D44M nodding teams work with eachother, would love to see meta dooms latest sprites in d4t

>>4027591
i suspect about as much as the rest of the community

>>4027591
Didn't DBT said he wanted the sprites to be more than just pictures of models?
Not only that, but DrDySpy's version of the Mastermind is like a mix of both classic and NuDoom with a bit of D64 in it, so it fits more with a mod that tries to mash most games in a series than one with the older titles and the reboot.

>>4027591
Ah, yes, the classic "oh boy, this mod just came out, now I can use the sprites for something else!"

>>4027595
Yeah but I feel like his nu doom sprites are bit crushed enough to look like more then pictures

>doom babbies

>that room in the pit with the rocket launcher that when you pick it up opens up the walls filled with shotgunners, lost souls and chaingunners

>>4027591
Straight model rips never really look good. I've seen the summoner and cyber mancubus sprites and they look out of place.

>>4027658
Oh, from the preview I saw I thought they had been changed a bit

>>4027657
>Do it with DoomRL Monsters/DoomRPG
>Shitton of The Hungry instantly swarm your ass
It's like playing a joke wad, only thing missing would be some extremely obnoxious sound clip

>>4027462
I don't think he ever outright hated it, it's just that his time at id then was very frustrating and difficult, ending with his departure. If I was him, I would still be proud of the work and thought of mine that ultimately did end up in the final game, even if a lot of it was disregarded, cut or altered.

I'm kind of excited by this though, because of the original Doom 1 and 2 levels, the ones based on his were always my favorites, Containment Area, Deimos Labs, Spawning Vats, Pandemonium, and Refueling Base, those I feel have the very best feel for Doom.
Come to think of it, I would fucking love an episode set styled entirely after his mapping style filtered gently through Sandy/Romero

>>4027462
TOM HALL EPISODE WHEN?

>>4027763
Speaking of jokewads, I'm still wondering if I should try MLG Doom.

>>4027816
Just play one level. You've seen pretty much all content in a single level, since only new weapon is the quickscope sniper

>>4027570
Nah, I'm making a map for someone on here occasionally.
I'll quit being overdramatic and message them.
I just hoped to be more efficient.

>>4027829
*Who post

Sorry tired

Thoughts on lithium?
I think it's neat

>>4027839
I like it.

I tried playing with the >implying downgrade once.

>>4027839
It was fun, but the upgrade tree is something I'm willing to only go through once.

>>4027839
it's a nice tech demo

>>4027302
>IntelHD

Those things are notoriously bad for any kind of 3D, especially older ones that you have. Adding any kind of descrete GPU (Like GeForce 6 series) will boost your FPS dramatically. If you REALLY can't afford new PC - consider finding old GeForce - they go for 10-20 buck on ebay.

>>4027850
Wasn't there an option in DoomRPG or something to get your character across wads?

How did it work?

Is there any way to port the feature over?

>>4027064
Not the same guy, but some people act like if you commit some sort of crime if you don't PLAY AS THE DEVELOPERS INTENDED REEEE. Which I can understand to some extent, but there's no reason to get zealous over it, imo.

>>4027168
That's weird. I've been playing Bullet Eye a lot lately and with my 6yo PC (which wasn't even top of the line when I built it), I stay consistently at 60fps with cool effects enabled. The only thing that gives me a notable framerate hit is AO.
Gzdoom 3.0.1 here.

>>4027379
Look at the code for the Keymaster minimod, it should give you some pointers.

>>4027839
Lithium somehow makes gzdoom 3.0.1 crash at random for me, can't reproduce reliably enough to file a report, but it's annoying because it locks the mouse in gzdoom and it's a pain to kill the process.

>>4027302
How do computers like this still exist? I know it's a rude thing to ask but why?

>>4027867
I haven't looked at it in detail, but I *believe* it involves writing compiled data (think like a /vr/ game password) to a CVAR.

I have only played the original Quake and Doom demos and was thinking of buying Quake 3 on steam, but is it dead?

>>4027938
you got /arena/ on /vg/ sometimes
you got quake live
I don't know if steam has it's own thing or not though

>>4027891
the majority of laptops sold are $300-400 walmart shitboxes with specs just like that computer

Speaking of terry wads, has anyone done a terry davis wad yet?

>>4026857

Heres the threadly reminder that you should get your Daily SLIGE Megawad, play it with a randomizer mod like DoomRL Arsenal for extra fun.

https://soulsphere.org/hacks/slige/

Remider that the wad in this website changes everyday, so tune in regularly for a new random challenge.

BONUS: Heres a doom font that I found for MS Word and LibreOffice.

http://www.dafont.com/doom.font

Also, newbie question but how do I record demos in Doom? I want to attach a shrt webm preview of the first level of the SLIGE wads

>>4027938
quake champions is the hip new game
though it's in beta
but it's free

>>4027991
>classic mode is no abilities mode
>some character abilities are movement options that shouldn't be character exclusive
Please don't fuck it up

The stripped down version of PSX Doom has MUCH better lighting, it doesn't feel like I'm playing Doom 3 anymore.

Also does anyone else get a weird bug where the COMPWALL textures, 1 to 4 seem to cycle through each other like an animated texture? I checked the ANIMDEF lump but it doesn't have those textures defined in there.
I ended up just copying over the textures with one of them so I wouldn't get the senseless blinking.

>>4028001
What's stripped down about it?

>>4028001
>stripped down version of PSX Doom
which one is that?

>>4028001
Are you that anon with that custom version of Immoral Conduct? If so, when are you gonna put that out to the public?

>>4028004
Someone made a port of PSX Doom and faithfully recreated all the weapon and monster behavior with Decorate, as well as all the new/altered textures. Which is cool, but you can't play gameplay mods with it.

Someone made a second version of it which strips out all the Decorate actors (except for the meathook replacing the Arch-Vile), so instead of having say, a Revenant that acts just like the Revenant does in the Playstation version (as in, he's much slower), it's just the normal Revenant.

This way, you can play the Playstation mapsets (including the added Final Doom and Master Level PSX sets) with whatever gameplay mod you want. It also seems like the light levels are altered, because the original port mod was dark as shit.

>>4028007
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=55298
He also made a version for the Doom 64 levels.

>>4028013
Don't expect it for a long while.

>>4027209
Smooth Quake when?

>inb4 interpolation
You know it'd be more than just that.

>>4028020
Link?

>>4028026
Too slow: >>4028024

>>4028025
>ear outside the helmet
Every time I see this picture

A couple of weeks ago I tweaked this pistolstart mod that wasn't working that well, I tried contacting the original author but I couldn't get in touch with him so I'm posting it here in case someone is interested, I'm still in the process of tweaking it further though.
Also posting a compatibility patch to use it with Complex Doom weapons, one of the tweaks was making the whole thing more mod-friendly so it can be easily adapted.

http://www.mediafire.com/file/c79xm8c72nr376j/PistolStart21.pk3
http://www.mediafire.com/file/bnb28wqn59bb0mf/PistolStart21-Complex_Doom.pk3

Tactical night vision is great. I wonder has there ever been a thermal vision feature in any doom mod?

Hey /doom/, how do I begin making maps for Quake 1?

>>4028084
Download jackhammer or trenchbroom and begin looking up source mapping tutorials because Quake and Source are exactly the same.

>>4028098
To writ: Quake is a hell of a lot easier than Source because it's original id tech instead of "id tech with 17 years of Valve's smushed-together code crammed up its backside." It's less capable, sure, but the basics are all there just fine.

Also: you don't have to use fucking Hammer.

>>4028106
Hammer is the same thing as worldcraft / jackhammer, albeit Jackhammer is more stable. Thought desu, the only real simpler thing is the I/O system, which plainly doesn't exist in Quake1.

>>4027961
the CIA niggers shut it down

>>4028117
>Hammer is the same thing as worldcraft
Which has always been rubbish, and Hammer has so little official documentation that isn't total shit it's almost sadfunny.

>you'll never be as big a fan of blood as this guy

>>4028143
I have the perfect image saved just for this very occasion.

>>4028139
Quite the opposite.
https://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/Main_Page

The developer wiki is very helpful

>>4028154
>Welcome to the Valve Developer Community.
>Community.

>>4028154
>>4028159
I remember trying to make Source maps for GO, and it's so retarded trying to find ways to do certain things when videos are older than shit.

>>4026926
>called a sawcubus
>it's an imp
I was expecting a fatso with chainsaws for hands.

>>4028186
The Doom RPG probably named it that solely for the pun.

>>4028186
you're a mancubus.
cus you're fat

>>4027150
I always presume they were of low intelligence; but smart enough to deal with any possible threats greater than humans. Presumably, they're a "domestic demon"; and in ancient egypt, humans worshipped cats, so I presume some of the lesser demons worship cacos in the same way.

>>4027462
>>4027465
>>4027470
>>4027473
>>4027767
I'd guess his maps would be very story line-oriented.

>>4027480
kek

>>4027485
He's clearly a closet furry, then. They do the exact same thing.

>>4028191
Eh, It's my awful Mary sue that's the fat one, but sure, I'll take it.

What a lovely machine.

>>4028197
Demons clearly watch helltube videos of cacos frolicking about and go "awwwwwww look at the caco~ so pwecious~"

>>4028185
Normally I would agree, what with constantly changing implementations, methodology, and tools we here in a predominantly Doom thread are used to, but source is very... static. The way things are done rarely ever change on basis other than the release of a new game, so old tutorials, as 480p as they may be, still hold up to this day.

I, personally, learned from 3kliksphilip, and still recommend him even now. I believe he has updated videos.
But once you acquire a solid ground knowledge of the source engine from video tutorials, the community wiki becomes much more palatable and useful. Ultimately experimentation is the best teacher, though.

>>4028204
I don't care for the story as much as I do for the immersion. Hall maps always give me a giddy sense of, "Wow, this is a ~slightly~ convincing location."

what is the kitchen sink mod of Doom?

I need to stop namefagging.

>>4028227
They're surprisingly not that different than us; despite being LITERALLY MANIFESTATIONS OF EVIL

>>4028254
Which ones were his again?

>>4028260
grezzo 2

>>4028254
E2M7
E2M3
and MAP10
are the first ones that come to mind when I think of Hall, though he has more-- they're always finished by Sandy though.

>>4028280 to >>4028273
Don't know how I fuck that up.

>>4028254
>"Wow, this is a ~slightly~ convincing location."
Yeah, they're about the right kind of realism for Doom; just barely.

Throw in a couple of office rooms, a kitchen/diner, locker rooms and toilets and they're very convincing for Doom.

>>4028280
E1M4: Command Control (finished by Romero 1)
E1M8: Phobos Anomaly (finished by Petersen)
E2M1: Deimos Anomaly (finished by Petersen)
E2M2: Containment Area (finished by Petersen)
E2M3: Refinery (finished by Petersen)
E2M4: Deimos Lab (finished by Petersen)
E2M7: Spawning Vats (finished by Petersen)
E3M3: Pandemonium (finished by Petersen)
E3M7: Limbo (finished by Petersen)

Doom II level design credits

MAP10: Refueling Base (finished by Petersen)

Huh, turns out I like his maps.

>>4028308
I really wish Hall stuck around.

>>4028308
Yeah, judging by how they were finished by others, I think if he got into the right mindset for Doom, rather than the more realistic style he was asked and rejected for (or a midpoint of the two), then I think he could make some gold.

>>4028312
Whoever the fuck is responsible for some of the platforming in these, though...

I think people don't generally realize just how insanely lucky id Software got with Doom. There were so many steps along the way where they changed course and every one turned out in hindsight to be the right decision

* ditching the Doom Bible plan in favor of a more "traditional" shooter
* ditching the "realistic" military base level design
* totally overhauling the rendering engine only 6 months from release to change from whatever weird thing Carmack was using to a binary space partition
* hiring a new designer THREE MONTHS FROM RELEASE who had to design or finish 2/3 of the maps in that span
* tearing out all the arcadey elements like lives, points, etc in the last month

>>4028332
That may be true, but we have to WONDER WHAT WOULD BE (teh ehmhfh)

>>4027480
the funny thing is that bzplasma is the only doom community member who explicitly got a shout out in Doom 2016 (his name is on a random texture somewhere)

>It's an "Arch-Vile Maze" episode

>>4028360
>it's a a shitton of dead bodies and a closet with arch-vile episode

>>4028360
I remember playing an awesome level that was a maze of ruins and jungle with nothing but archviles. Is that what you're talking about? What WAD is it from?

You're all gonna buy my metal album, right guys?

>>4028367
Arch-Vile mazes are a somewhat common level type after Plutonia's famous "Hunted."

>it's a mapper thinks revenants are a good swarm enemy episode

>>4028387
>it's OBLIGE thinks that 20 arachnotrons in a big open space is a good idea episode

>>4028189
This. The hardest variant/pallete swap is called a Sawnobite, for pete's sake.

>>4028387
>>4028365
>>4028360
>>4028394

thanks, i'll do all of these in one map

>>4028390
>doomguy's lines are just "..."
>duke is spewing obscenities for no real reason
it's the little things

>>4026857
I have doom (the app) on my iPhone. I'm supposed to be able to listen to music even when both are open on my phone,
Do any of you kind anons have a way I can fix this?

>>4028025
Doesnt Arcane Dimentions do that, kind of?

>>4028084
get trenchbroom.

Use this page:
https://quakewiki.org/wiki/Getting_Started_Mapping

and post on Func_Msgboard mapping help for any questions

>>4027135
HIMPatience when?

This map is a lot less awful without FIREBLU

But I think I like this level better without a visible sky, the enclosed nature of it made it feel more claustrophobic.

>>4028368
ive tried looking up what Rekkr is to no luck, what IS it going to be?

>>4028481
if memory serves right, it's a TC that is theorhetically compatible with like, chocolate doom. He's staying super strictly within the original limitations of the doom engine, and it's a hell of a feat

>>4028368
Oh fuck that looks good.

I'm listening to the rekkr soundtrack right now incidentally. One of the hell tracks (track 19) which fits this image quite well

>>4028465
>without fireblu
H E R E S Y

>>4028481
>ive tried looking up what Rekkr is to no luck, what IS it going to be?
I should get better at marketing. Maybe random nighttime posts on a Chinese basket weaving forum isn't the way to go...
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/90862-rekkr-an-ultimate-doom-total-conversion/#comment-1671995
>>4028482
>if memory serves right, it's a TC that is theorhetically compatible with like, chocolate doom.
Your memory seems to work fine.

It's a vanilla TC (no original anything visible/heard)... So far it works with everything I've tested it on, but has some minor issues with GZDoom. Something about how gravity on projectiles works with autoaim... If you turn off autoaim, and turn on freelook it works fine, but breaks some visual things... Playable, but not ideal yet.
>>4028485
Thanks. It'll look a bit better when I'm finished. Don't know how much I'm going to bother with, but he needs to be a tad re-proportioned and balanced a bit...

How can I trick people into thinking an OBLIGE map is something I created?

>>4028512
Remove all the OBLIGE textures, but someone will still call you out on it.

OBLIGE monster placement always sticks out to me.

>>4028512
Oblige is shit, why pass those maps off as your own?

>>4028518

I want the fame of being a map designer, but I don't want to put any effort into it.

>>4028525
dude what
don't be a wank

>>4028525
>fame as a map designer
>oblige quality maps
Ok then.

You know what /vr/ needs? An Invasion server, those are always fun even though it's hard to find good, balanced maps

Also, any mod and/or map recommendations to play against lots of enemies while being kinda overpowered? You know, killing for fun, not really with a strategy or something

>>4028494
Will it be compatible with GMOTA?

Looks like a nice fit

Instead of doing a typical doom mod, I am thinking of using the engine for a short story that could run on any old CPU, would it be possible to do things like limit the walk speed and add long speech files in?

>>4028558
Only if it's audio. Reading shit in the usual message format would be suffering.

>>4028558
Yes, you can very easily change the player speed using Decorate.

>>4028512
>>4028525
OBLIGE levels have too many quircks that stick out like a sore thumb, especially since they're randomly generated. And even if you did somehow manage to trick people into thinking they're yours, the quality of OBLIGE maps are at most just kinda decent, and aren't going to get BTSX or Skillsaw levels of fame.

>>4028367
probably Plutonia 2 map11

I'm sleepy and bored, let's come up with original monsters

>>4028580
barbed wire monster like in the Deathwatch film.

Any WW1 themed monsters would be cool. I want a WW1 themed mod so bad.

>>4028580
giant severed thumb

>>4028580
giant severed nose

>>4028580
Cyber cacos, they rapid fire their balls, can charge up stun or aoe attacks,

>>4028580
A wyvern

>>4028580
giant severed foot

>>4028580
Nobody has made a good generic zombie yet.
Just a basic, slow, weak melee enemy that looks like a decomposing corpse, he shambles towards you and swings/punches at you, or tries to bite at you, whatever.

It's not a particularly *interesting* enemy, but it has a lot of practical uses.

>>4028580
Enemies that fire boomerang projectiles, like they fly out, then reverse and come back to the shooter, even if they hit a wall.
Fuck I should do this

>>4028608
>Nobody has made a good generic zombie yet.
nocturne in yellow's zombies come to mind

I realized that, using Serious Editor, and this Pixel-Art "Rotoscoping" progam called "Paint of Persia", I could totally try making some Serious Sam sprites for Doom.
Now, whether or not the motivation for making this carrier over to tomorrow, that's another story, but I thought I'd at least share what I've done so far.
Started off in the program, then went to my graphics program of choice for when I was going for more detail. Might jump back to the "rotoscope" program to try and get the coloring and shading down.

>>4028260
Aeons of Death.

>>4028536
Shotgun Frenzy or Armaggedon 2. Those were fun when they still had people in them...

>>4028643
How does that paint of persia program work anyway? I'm assuming all it does is just give you a transparent canvas to draw over stuff. I doubt it gives you any particularly useful tools

>>4028536
Call of Doom has a nice mix of power and balance.

Russian overkill if you want nukes.

Omnishields if you want some extra protection against said nukes.

Brother in Arms if you want to command an army.

Mechatron if you want to be a big stompy mech, yet balanced.

Custom Doom gives you the ability to change max health, add health/armor regen.

Boom Power if you want explosions everywhere.

For maps, generate some with oblige.

aesthetic as fuck

>>4028652
Yeah. You can set the canvas size to something small, that pic uses 64x64, then resizing the window will scale the canvas up, while keeping those pixels big and chunky, and just pull it over an image. It scales the canvas so that every pixel is the same size, to whole number scaling. Seems like it could be a real life saver.

>>4028662
Let's see what you say after seeing the same shitty brown palette on every level.

>>4028668
The pallete itself isn't actually brown. There's a bunch of levels where blue is the primary color.
Try playing the game before judging it.

>>4027480
Who?

>>4028607
So do you want me to cut off a foot?

But why?

>>4028662
Where do I get that build? I fucking love downscale.

>>4028702
looks like regular quakespasm on a lower res. Looks like quake did back in the way

>>4028708
This is a new build and either I'm blind or it is not available for download yet.

https://twitter.com/SimsOCallaghan/status/869302505091497985

Whats a good episode length mapset (6-11 maps) thats very challenging?

I can't believe I didn't do this sooner.
Kinsie was the one who made me think about doing this

>>4028702
http://www.celephais.net/board/view_thread.php?id=60452&start=2757

The download link is the "new build to try". Like the post says, the cvar is r_scale. Use your native resolution then set r_scale to 2, 3, etc. depending on how many times you want the resolution divided

>>4028720
the "gibs" seems a bit delayed?

>>4028694
How else are you going to get to the secret level?

>>4028727
well I was looking at the barrel explosion frames and I figure I'd spawn the gibs after the frame where the barrel seems the most... exploded. I mean everything else in the mod has that slightly weird delay to it

>>4028730
Ah, because they spawn in the floor like that it looks like the barrel disappears entirely for a tic or two.

>>4028718
Some of these aren't quite within the 6-11 range.

Combat Shock (No difficulty settings)
Combat Shock 2
Crumpets
Newgothic Movement 1 (No difficulty settings)
Newgothic Movement 2 (No difficulty settings)
Phmlspd (No difficulty settings)
Stardate 20X6
Stardate 20X7
Summer of '69
Sunder (No difficulty settings)
Swim With The Whales

>>4028764
Some of these aren't quite within the 6-11 range.

Combat Shock (No difficulty settings)
Combat Shock 2
Crumpets
Newgothic Movement 1 (No difficulty settings)
Newgothic Movement 2 (No difficulty settings)
Phmlspd (No difficulty settings)
Rush
Stardate 20X6
Stardate 20X7
Summer of '69
Sunder (No difficulty settings)
Swim With The Whales

>>4028718
these aren't quite within the 6-11 range.

Combat Shock (No difficulty settings)
Combat Shock 2
Crumpets
Newgothic Movement 1 (No difficulty settings)
Newgothic Movement 2 (No difficulty settings)
Phmlspd (No difficulty settings)
Rush
Stardate 20X6
Stardate 20X7
Summer of '69
Sunder (No difficulty settings)
Swim With The Whales

>>4027421
already did that and vanilla maps with maps of chaos wad,anything else?I am pretty desprate for more battlegrounds to reign chaos upon!

>>4028643
Interesting. What does your workflow look like in that program?

>>4026857
So i updated gzdoom and now my saves won't work, is there a fix or should i just roll back?

>>4028807
Nope, it's forever.

>>4028332
>totally overhauling the rendering engine only 6 months from release to change from whatever weird thing Carmack was using to a binary space partition
any more info on this? im curious

>>4028554
Tested it a few days ago and it isn't really. But moreso than I thought it would be.

>>4028807
There's no compatibility between saves from different versions.

>>4028580
Something like this?

>>4028580
a cacodemon with a surprise chaingun in its mouth

>>4028879

PAIN ELEMENTAL

THE LOST SOULS HAVE THE CHAINGUNS

>>4028905
Lost souls have rocket launchers that shoot pinkies.

So which explanation do you think is better doom 3s where hell has its own tech or doom 4s where UAC experiments and cults have them the tech?

>>4028924
Doom 3>>>>Shit>>>>>>>>>>>>>NuDoom

>>4028585
https://web.archive.org/web/20170113212105/http://haunt.8m.com/beastiary/index.html have fun

>>4028581
What, like Necrovision?

>>4028694
You tell us

>>4028971
Mostly >>4028729
After all, Twelve inchworms and something's a foot.

>>4028965
>https://web.archive.org/web/20170113212105/http://haunt.8m.com/beastiary/index.html have fun
oh my fuck

>>4028982
The whole site is chock-full of good monsters. I'd love to see them fleshed out into full monsters for wads.

>>4028992
>https://web.archive.org/web/20170113212105/http://haunt.8m.com/beastiary/index.html
I feel the nurgledemon could be cleaned up and the Cac2.0 looks pretty good.

Spidermage, Cyber Caco, Gladiator, Cyber Knight, Technophyte and Drone Lord look like good ones to start with for cybers.
Spidervile and Spidibus seem most keen too; spidervile especially for the Technophobia.

The gorgon,plague,death,warlock,enforcer imp, the skeletal imp range, aqua, goliath, bog, althered, all good, two-headed would be great for a jokey map or to mix in with my-and-dukewooze's altered Abomination imp.

The crag, cave, undead, plasma, hammerhead, and electro pinkies are pretty good.

The war knight looks pretty fun.
The mega baron looks pretty good.

Lost soul color variations like torches would be lovely.
Soul demon and armored revenants.
Trite and enigma.

The zombie tanks are pretty funny, and the zombie dog is a nice one too.

Hey kinsie, you know the pillar with an heart in it? If you replaced its heart with the artifact, you'd add the item without even coding it. Also, are the dead marines the only props with variants?

>>4029008
There's also that severed-head mech of Lilwhitemouse

The viking imp looks good; and the other silly imp variants would be spot on too.

>>4028971
I dunno, i was not essentially referring to my foot tho.

But since >>4028974 said about inchworms and stuff maybe he's talking about cutting off Eustace's foot from courage the cowardly dog?

>>4029149
still can't believe they made a game out of that

>>4029149
Nah. It's a reference to Keen 4.

>>4029163
or five.

point being it's this one.

>>4029010
is metadoom having the artifact the new caleb in samsara?

>>4028694
To be honest, I just told you that because those other guy spoke about severed thumb and severed nose, I found it funny to add another one. I was expecting everyone to come up with other severed bodyparts but it did not work.

>>4028827
>any more info on this? im curious
the doom engine originally did its rendering using some sort of linked list of sectors, but it ran like shit so carmack ended up stumbling across an academic paper about binary space partitions and rewrote the whole thing

>>4029203
Pretty much, specially when Kinsie wanted it to use a feature that doesn't even work.

>>4028580
flying winged demon with dual chainguns & laser coming out of it's eyes

>>4029213

>>4028580
....a skeleton

>>4029163
I've never played Commander Keen so i didn't get the reference even with that foot image having the same art style.

>>4029206
You could say a severed arm, severed ear, severed many things, but you said foot instead, of course that will make me respond to it, lmao.

I was not expecting much from this mod, but I must admit that Call of Doom has its charm. Unfortunately most of the weapon sprites are a bit ugly, especially those with white pixels around them.

>>4029206
i'm sorry i started this. i posted the thumb because i was looking at mine when the original post appeared, and i imagined a big thumb hopping around Unholy Cathedral on the bloody end then curling over and leaping at the player to attempt to crush him. which is a bit similar to a lost soul i guess. but i didn't type any of this, then some clown made fun of me by posting exactly the same thing but with "thumb" replaced by "nose" and now the two fetish queens of /vr/doom are having a circlejerk about body parts.

>ruining your doom with SOOPER KOOL weapons mods

We've seen plenty of demons galore, but what would fighting devils be like?

Maybe the artifact could have been an extremly rare power up that was just haste, invulnerability and quad damage combined.

>>4029240
The old weapons are photos of toys with stiff as fuck animations

>>4028974
>twelve inchworms
>a foot

OH LAWD, how did I never get that before?

>>4029242
More like Quake or Doom 2 sans cannon fodder. Lots of strafing and arena's. Summoner style minion summoning?

>>4029248
That is a neat idea, I think its funny that Resurrection if evil thought giving hell time first was a good idea when it's clearly the most op power

>>4029250
This.
We all like Doom, but most of its sprites were just dudes on their basement playing with toys.
Nothing wrong with admitting flaws of the things you like.

>>4029254
Lorewise, "time stop" was actually you being faster, but i think it just made the game slower because something something Doom 3 being a slow as fuck game.

>>4029253
No infighting because lawful evil, they are much more disciplined, stricter higherarchy, more combat formations, but also more stiff and predictable, but depending on things also willing to parlay

>>4029257
Now in fairness it's what they had to work with and it was quite serviceable for the time, but while enemy sprites have aged like wine the weapons have not kept up as well, but that's what mods are for

>>4029258
That's funny, despite its more frantic pace nu dooms default movement speed is actually slower still

>tfw too intelligent to play anything other than vanilla

>>4029264
But classic Doom isn't

>>4028332
don't forget taking five months off of development to shit out spear of destiny

>>4029270
I think that goes more towards to

>Tfw too prehistoric to go outside my lil' Chocolate Doom to play anything else.

>>4029262
Only thing that really bothers me about the weapons is the sounds. With the exception of the plasma rifle, all other weapons sound really anemic, even the SSG. And as a result they aren't nearly as satisfying to use as they should be.

>mod only works with dev builds of gzdoom
can this meme just die already? what the fuck's the point of the stable builds if nothing new works on them?

>>4026858
Rise of the Wool Ball (Shadow of the Wool Ball sequel) announced
https://www.doomworld.com/vb/post/1754356

>>4028924
I always preferred the idea that they had their own tech or stole and repurposed human tech.

>>4029282
I've also wondered this, but I don't particularly care. Megamek has taught me that stable builds might as well read "Deprecated"

>>4029240
Classic is fun but weapon mods are their own fun.

>>4029257
>>4029250
The propmaking of Doom is really charming though, it's got a bit of a b-movie quality to it.

>their basement
They had an office FFS, Keen and Wolfenstein were huge successes for them (paling in comparison to Doom and Quake though), they bought an entire floor of an office building.

>>4029279
This is why I like FinalDoomer, Doomguy weapon set. All the classic weapons, but they actually feel good to use.

>>4029279
The SSG is satisfying if you're wearing headphones or have some bass.

Of course, the plasmarifle is not fun at all if you have headphones.

>>4029203
no

>>4029279
I find the SSG extremely satisfying. Also, just replaying Doom 1 on GZDoom - has the shotgun always been a sniper rifle? I headshot dudes from the other side of the map with it. I know that shotguns don't spread in real life like they usually do in games, but this is just extreme in the other direction.

Are there any decent CUHRAYZY wads aside from Demonsteele?

>>4029341
It only takes like one pellet to kill a former human.

If you shot at a wall you'll see that there's still a fair amount of spread.

>>4029341
zdoom increased the range of hitscans from 2048 to 8192, iirc.

don't know about headshots, the original game doesn't have them.

Are the Freedooms worth playing or should I just not even bother?

>>4029350
>It only takes like one pellet to kill a former human.
two at least, pellets can never do 20

>>4029341
partly to do with the fact that the spread is only horizontal

>>4028580
https://tcrf.net/Prerelease:Doom_(PC,_1993)#Unused_Monster

Could always implement this.

>>4028580
Flying sentient shotgun

>>4029282
When I get back into mapping I'm just going to focus on the last ZDoom version because I know that shit's never updating again.

UHUHUHUH, WUT UH MESS

>>4029341
The regular shotgun has a relatively tight and realistic spread for a shotgun in a classic style shooter.
Duke Nukem 3D also has this but without the horizontal patterning.

>>4029279
>>4029250

I like the weapon sounds and the animations.
I also like new weapon sounds and animations.
I dunno why we can't have both.

I just like playing Doom, whether normal or modded.

>>4029373
What mod?

>>4029380
Metadoom, running on a randomly generated Oblige map.

>>4029337
At least the artifact was once considered (sort of), unlike Caleb
Imagine if the artifact gets a sprite that is an edit of that heart thing from Blood, just to fuck with people whining about Caleb

>>4029220
Well, that's because you get a boner

To be frank; a lot of the stuff in commander keen is obscure and/or just outright frustrating

Fuck off Captcha

>>4028670
>greyscale ramp
>brownscale ramp
>pastel blue ramp
>babyshit ramp
>blood ramp
>brown ramp
>red-yellow ramp
>brown ramp
>dickhead purple ramp
>shitty goth purple palette
>more brown
>grey-green
>yellow
>blue
>more brown
>some random colors

Let's be real: The palette is nearly 50% brown, and the colors that aren't brown are muddy and dull to the point that they might as well be grey.

>>4028803
What I did was just get the basic shapes done in the program, and then ported it over to my preferred graphics program.
Going to try putting the more finished sprite back in the rotoscope program to try and get a better grasp on the coloring and shading. This is the major roadblock to completing this single sprite.

>>4029394
>you can play as Caleb in Metadoom

>>4029473
>Caleb appears as an hanging corpse to replace Keen

Is Caleb's weaponset even that good for people to be asking for him this much?

>>4029482
i think he was left out cause of a balance issue

>>4029482
not really

>>4029487
He was left out because he didn't have a role to fill that wasn't already occupied by other characters. Was to avoid redundancy more or less.

>>4029428
>row second from bottom is fullbrights used for fire effects
>brown
You might want to check your monitor's color calibration, yo.

>>4029516
But Chex is okay

So does ZScript replace Decorate and ACS or is it meant to work alongside it?

What are some lesser-known mods with upgrading?

>>4027206
>Bullet eye
What levels you recommend for this mod?

>>4028668
In practice, I find Doom II's and Plutonia's "brownness" worse and actually nauseating because their brown textures are less detailed and more homoegenously and solidly brown (an unnaturally vibrant brown too) and because the games don't have the increased lighting variation and level geometry of Quake to break up textures. I'd say that the brownness in Plutonia is also more ubiquitous than in Quake.

goiddammit
i want to make brush based maps
but i want to play doom
if 3d floors and slopes weren't such a pain to use and tedious to put in place

>>4029525
yes, chex is the defense guy

please do not try and restart a six-year-old argument that has long been argued to death

>>4029371
>>4029362
>>4028834
These.

>>4029251
Again, it's a pretty sly and subtle pun-joke.

>>4029560
We're going to do it.
>a literal reskin with shifted stats is okay
>but one with actual new gameplay isn't

No wonder why doom is on a decline.

>>4029569
no, we're not

go beat another dead horse

Let's twist things a little bit.

Post something you hate about a mapset/mod you otherwise love.
Post something you love about a mapset/mod you otherwise hate.

Hard mode: No Brutal Doom or derivatives.
Nightmare mode: No meta commentary on the community at all.

>>4029580
>Equinox
FUCK that soundtrack.

>Epic 2
The genre shift into a completely different theme halfway through was really cool.

>>4029580
I love Going Down, but why did it have to be so hard ?

>>4029580
i really don't like how ancient aliens puts a lot of emphasis on enemy rush near the end, it feels like it went on a couple maps too long.

blade of agony is incredibly pretty and i really appreciate the sheer amount of work put into it

>>4029580
GMOTA's sub-weapon/weapon replacements are really fucking underwhelming, considering you can only carry one at a time. Completely sucks out the joy of finding a new weapon, since by then you've probably already got the one you wanted.

The Halderman device in Final Doomer is a cool concept, being able to whip out an extra boost of help on the fly is a solid idea that more mods should experiment with.

>>4029580
I'm going to be in the minority, but I don't like the combination of bright pastel colors with brown/tan ruins in Ancient Aliens. Really contrasts too much.
The original UAC Military Nightmare actually made me laugh at some parts.

>>4029580
>Post something you hate about a mapset/mod you otherwise love.
I really hate the evil marines in Scythe 2.

>Post something you love about a mapset/mod you otherwise hate.
Deus Vult is a sprawling, gargantuan, massive epic of a mapset. The scale is simply breathtaking.

>>4029593
Regarding GMOTA's subweapons, would you feel as underwhelmed if subweapons just became a thing you pick up from dead enemies every so often and the actual normal weapon spawns are replaced with items that augment your main weapons?

Metadoom is nice, but what mapsets do you guys normally play it in?

>>4029609
I don't know, that's a very interesting way to go about it.
The thing about normal weapon spawns is that they're supposed to boost/augment the player's power, and weapon-spawns-as-subweapons really hut that because being able to only hold one subweapon at a time meant there was no augmentation or progression.

But if subweapons are taken from enemies...well. That could be a very interesting way to handle it. Make them just boosts of power appropriate for the current enemy spawns at the time, while the actual weapon spawns properly boost the player's abilities?

>>4029618
dtwid seems like the logical conclusion, really

>>4029575
Like you? Sure!

>>4029619
Exactly, and that's one of the reasons why I've never liked how GMOTA has felt for the longest time, because it goes against the weapon progress vanilla has. I've got something new planned for a proper feeling of progression

and I don't necessarily mean certain enemies drop specific subweapons, I'll probably keep the subweapon chests in, just it'll be mainly something you find off killed enemies rather than where you'd normally find a rocket launcher.

Is TNT Revilution any good ?

does anyone play D4T deathmatch?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=StblF-3sOwY

>>4029557
I feel you so hard, anon. Brush geometry is beautiful, but quake sp is trash compared to D2 tbqh

>>4029653
Just tried looking it up and found a bunch of stuff on it from years ago. Does anyone have a tldr on its development?

>>4029656
I'd like to, but I never end up seeing one when I check out Zandronum.

>>4029694
it was supposed to have come out a few days ago but kept getting rejected from /idgames for licence pedant reasons.

>>4027462
Pretty sure he was just upset at how nearly everyone at id kept ignoring his requests at the time. At least according to Masters of Doom it seemed like he got shafted hard by everyone around the time Doom was being made.

>>4029428
The muted palette of Quake is charming though.

>>4029731
This. He never hated doom; he was just really displeased and getting shafted a lot.

I'd see what a map entirely done by him would be.

>>4029482
It's a bit cool but there's nothing super special about it.

The actual gameplay and combat in the game itself is much more interesting. Also I think his movement physics and behavior would be bothersome if not pointless to try to recreate in GZDoom, he's kind of springy and agile.

>>4029580
I liked Hellbound, but it had too many goddamn monsters.

I didn't really have much fun with Valiant, but it was visually beautiful.

Anybody got that story about john carmack merely going "mmmm" at porn?

>>4029538
A bit of both. You can still use decorate and ACS, and they'll probably stay there indefinitely for compatibility, but after checking out zscript, I recommend it over the old system. Much more versatile.

>>4029547
In my experience, works well with anything. Had a blast with both big maps and shorter maps like 1024 claustrophobia. Might work well with slaughtermaps if you are keen enough and manage to upgrade your weapon quickly.
Also works well with OBLIGE maps. Even SLIGE ones.
It's a really fun arcadey mod.

Talking OBLIGE, there's a new WIP floating around:
http://oblige.sourceforge.net/forum/index.php?topic=533.msg4818#msg4818
I didn't test it yet but sounds neat.

>>4029580
And I guess gameplay mods.
I love Accessories To Murder, but the rocket launcher is just terrible, the spiral trajectory is annoying, and its just incredibly unsatisfying to use.

I don't *hate* Shut Up And Bleed, in fact I love many parts of it, but it has a LOT of issues and flaws

>>4029823
Sounds good. I wonder when he'll re-implement 3D floor though.

>>4029823
Neat, one more for the collection.

>>4029714
maybe it's Ty's ghost

>>4029580
>fighting hordes of monsters with chaingun
>pick up a shitty new weapon
>have to slowly switch out to it then slowly scroll through all the gun animations trying to find the chaingun again
>die

Should I use the stable version of prboom+ or the test?

>playing broterhood of ruin with GMOTA

>suddenly finished map 7 and found myself in Dead Simple

>Its just Dead Simple but the textures are fucked and the GMOTA enemies apply

what the fuck did I do wrong, all the maps until this ran fine, and according to the txt the WAD is 10 maps long

>>4029859
did you go to map08?

>>4029862

first, I fucked up and said Dead Simple when the map in the pic is Ticks and Traps

but once I exit the level, after you get ambushed by revenants and an archvile, it just loads me up to a standard Doom 2 map

it should get me to map 8 of broterhood of ruin

>>4026858

[5-26]
Might as well shitcan my maps, because nobody gives a flippant fuck. Oh well; good to know not to waste my time anymore. Feel free to break it and any of my other wads open, maybe you'll find something you like (like the bloodbane i fixed, or the abomination imp that dukewooze helped with.)

But that was the point to begin with, my mapping: To provide potential new sources of spice for DOOM mappers/modders; mine always felt more like rough conceptual sketches anyways.

>>4027539
that's not a terry map

>>4029872
well then i dunno shit. Crack open the map set; maybe the author decided to put in some fucking obscure map gap or name.

>>4029874
If you were the one with all the images and that weird demon gun, you mapping wasn't the problem, but the constant picture spam and the giant shitstorm that eventually followed

>>4029851
>not memorizing the hotkey

Not as exactly Doom styled as I planned, but I'm still proud of this.

>>4029880
Very nice. Now you just need to deepen the shading for the primary body parts and do different directions and animations!

What is best sourceport for Quake 2 single player?

>>4029879
have you played reelism?

>>4029878
Yeah, that was me.

>>4029880
Oh hey. That looks top-tier. Go grab all of the diffrent kleer visuals throughout the years (first encounter up to serious sam 3), they might provide a bit more insight for detail. I'd say open up the revenant too and use it for a bit of refrence.

Honestly just needs some more shading and tweaks here and there, personally I'd size those pauldrons up a bit. maybe a slight gap between each rib.

>>4029282
>calling something you don't like a meme
Can this trend just die already?

>>4029889
>>4029880
Oh, and the front talons/claws/bones/fuckyou/whatever look weird due to their angling off to the sides, make them face forward.