/vr/ - Retro Games

>>4022930
youpoop & fightcade are your best friends, GL dude

>>4022935
Fuck you for trying to kill the thread

>>4022935
This, also shouryuken wiki

>>4022930
Here's a decent tutorial to get your feet wet.

https://youtu.be/0WLeCIkbkZY

Anyone know it Ultra Street Fighter II on the switch has the bonus stages added back in?

The barrel breaking one was always my favorite.

>>4023787
>bonus games
Shallow single player shit with no value for competitive.

>>4022930

Is there a console Capcom has not whored out Street Fighter 2 on?

>>4023790

Whoa, take it easier there Mr. Pro MLG.

>>4023803
He's right, though. Not him, but these bonus games get tiring REALLY fast.

>>4023812
I get that its single player, but I enjoyed single player SF2. The bonus stages broken shit up a bit and there were only 3 that took like 30 seconds each.

Dropped in Super Turbo for no reason.

>>4023812

yeah so doesn't listening you fags chimp out every time some says the words single player but here we are

>>4023798
Not enough because I still don't have an arcade perfect version on PC

>>4024052
>What is MAME

>>4024159
Don't use MAME, it's filled with input lag.

Is Ryu viable?

>>4024187
read the fucking wiki
http://wiki.shoryuken.com/Super_Street_Fighter_2_Turbo#Tiers_.26_Balance

>>4024187
Very. He's really damn strong in this game

>>4022930
>How can I git gud at Super Street Fighter II Turbo/fighting games in general?

Find a game/character(s) that you like, and play a lot. Get to know your character's move set, how far each one goes and how fast everything moves, spend time practicing your execution, and play with other people.

Don't get mad when you lose. You will lose. Everybody loses. Suck it up and play some more. Try to figure out why you lost and what you can do to stop it from happening - or how you can do it to the other player first. Keep playing, keep an open mind and keep learning new techniques.

>>4024179
>Not using shmupMAME with a CRT VGA display

pleb

>>4023798
I think n64 is the only console with no games that have Ryu.

GameCube had no street fighter but it has capcom vs snk 2.

>>4022935
>>4023064
>>4023525
Awesome, thanks dudes. I've been playing the Dreamcast version as Ryu all day and have been having a fucking blast, though I had to continue at least 10 times while playing.

T Hawk, Blanka, and Zangief give me the most trouble.

I'll check out fightcade and some YouTube shit tomorrow.

>>4024247
Appreciate the tips and information. I'm gonna stick to Ryu. Losing does suck, but if there's anything I have, it's patience.

I definitely need to work on my execution as well, a lot of shoryukens come out as hadokens, though it may be the fact that I'm using a Saturn pad for the first time and getting used to the d-pad. I've never had much trouble using other controllers over the years.

Thanks everyone.

Who's your favorite character, and what's your fondest memory regarding SFII?

>>4024670
Chun-li or Vega
Beating the computer

>>4024179
ur mom had 9 month input lag

>>4022930
Just keep playing. I think one of the better ports is on the CP Changer console. However, I still want that one for the Dreamcast, but it is so expensive even though it is one of the bad ports no one likes.


>>4024670
My favorite is Cammy, but I main charge characters like Guile, Vega/M.Bison, Balrog/Vega, M.Bison/Balrog, E.Honda, but I do well with Ken/Ryu and Dhalsim as well. Fondest memory was going to a tournament but I was very young, and I should have entered the youth tournament as it was handled quickly, but I opted for the general admission tournament because my mentality was "I came here to win it all" but I was not knocked out of winners bracket but my mother was getting super tired and I had to go around the semi-finals because it was already around 2AM. I distinctly remember one of the tournament organizers saying "you're doing pretty well" and I couldn't help but think "I expected to." Mind you, I live in the middle of nowhere in the USA, so there was not much competition in those days.


>>4024247
I come from a different direction into fighting games. One where I just moved up with similarly skilled (or more like lack of skilled) players. However, from the same circle, improvement naturally happened and everyone gets brought up. I still get mad when I lose, and I was at one point a player of mid-tier characters, and my only counter was to use the top-tier characters to overcome better players, but my personality (evil characters) and comfort was still always with the mid-tier characters.

Here are my struggles (I'm on P2):
https://youtu.be/Mjh5V3LHTFs

>>4024996
>My favorite is Cammy,
According to the tier list she is beyond total shit tier, lol.

>>4022930
best port was the ps2 kapcore collection version.
there were 2 versions, one with bugged stored super bug and claws walldive inputs reversed and the fixed korea version.

Best port was SNES port. Fight me you retards.

>>4025143
Did they fix stored oicho as well? Because that was way more retarded than stored super

>>4025007
Tier lists don't mean a whole lot in SF2.

>>4025223
Unless you're playing Dhalsim. The man's a beast

>>4025149
>implying there was an SNES port of Super Turbo

The SNES port of New Challengers was pretty good though, I'll give you that.

>>4025223
The dickish thing about Cummy is that you have to do retarded strict 360 motions with none of the high damage output that usually come with these types of moves

>>4025225
You DO have Turbo settings in New Challengers, newfag

>>4025223
Ehhhh. I think the tiers boil down to how well you can deal with fireballs and zoners. Or if you have a fireball yourself

>>4025230
Awesome, how do I pick Akuma?

How do I enable super combos?

>>4025239
Akuma is banned from Tournaments anyway, you shouldn't use him unless you're a cheesy cheater.

>>4025239
Super Combos are a fucking GARBAGE gimmick. Honestly the game is better off without them.

>>4024996
>However, I still want that one for the Dreamcast, but it is so expensive even though it is one of the bad ports no one likes.

I hear nothing but good things all the time regarding the Dreamcast version, what's so bad about it?

Got my ass handed to me by Chun Li earlier. She's way more agile than I remember.

>dem headstomps
>fireball spamming

Jesus, the computer in Super Turbo is fucking aggressive.

>>4026540
>computer
Shit, you're doing it wrong, kid.

>>4026540
Don't ever play the computer in a fighting game, it's downright detriment to your skills.

>>4026540
Don't ever play the computer in a fighting game, it's downright detrimental to your skills.

>>4026542
>>4026547

Why is it a bad thing? I play against a few friends too, but I want to at least be able to clear arcade mode.

>>4026597
It rots your brain my man. I'd only use arcade mode to practice landing combos on a moving target

>>4026602
Dem hit confirms, man. I know what you saying.

>>4026602
That's mostly what I've been doing, trying to land Ryu's forward jumping HK to crouching MK to M Tatsu has been getting easier.

But I can see where you're coming from, the cpu fucking cheats it feels like.

>>4026618
>Dem hit confirms, man.

What did he mean by this?

>>4026620
http://streetfighter.wikia.com/wiki/Hit_Confirmation

>>4026619
The AI does cheat. It doesn't need to charge for its moves for one. But it's also ridiculously primitive.
Also tatsu tends to miss on crouching opponents. Red fireball is your best bet because you're safe if they block and knock them on their ass if you hit

>>4025007
She is pretty bad in ST for me since I cannot perform the hooligan maneuvers consistently on demand. Yet, she is my favorite character as asked. As mentioned, I main Guile/Nash and evil characters. Here more footage of me getting stomped in A2 which I liked because A2 felt a lot like ST to me (I refused to use my main because he hard counters Chun): https://youtu.be/DpY-8govQCA


>>4025376
I remember reading everyone was complaining the Dreamcast version has 1 frame of input lag. Everyone preferred the PS2 version because it uses the actual arcade ROM and emulates. I just want the Dreamcast version as that console gets more love from me than my PS2 does.

>>4024669
>I definitely need to work on my execution as well, a lot of shoryukens come out as hadokens

This is the main thing to focus on at this point. The first step is getting so that every move you want comes out by barely thinking about it. That's really just practice and muscle memory and getting used to the pad you're using.

Once you've got that down you can work on more in depth strategy and mind games. Getting your fundamentals solid is the first step though.

>>4025007
It's way more fun to beat someone with a low tier character than a top tier one. My SF mains are Sagat and Dan, and even though I love playing as Sagat there's just a special feeling you get when you body someone with Dan.

>>4024669
Inputs inputs inputs. Work on those inputs. If you're playing a version that shows what you're pressing it can be a huge help as well.

>>4022930
>>4024669

This channel in particular!

>>4022930
>>4024669

This channel in particular:

https://www.youtube.com/user/eltrouble/videos

>>4022930 (OP)
>>4024669

This channel in particular:

https://www.youtube.com/user/eltrouble/videos

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RgEB6rSNVAQ

>>4026975
Also the PS2 controller sucks ass for fighting games.

Anyone here want to play on Fightcade?

>>4032503
I'd love to but i live in the third world so my connection is not the best and also i suck at ST, started it a couple of months ago.

>>4025227
No real chip damage, mixup nor zoning as well. She has it hard. Is she, dare I say... a honest character?

>>4026975
Nah, the PS2 version has a -really- noticeable input lag as well.

>>4030698
It's a decent/mid-tier controller for fighting game. I can do 10 shoryu one after the another, no problem. It's a bit harder to renda cancel jabs into rush super with Boxer though.

>>4030698
The PS2 had tons of options for controllers. I think it's the console that has the most robust options for controllers.


>>4034749
In those days I remember everyone still stuck with playing the arcade cabinets and my home port of choice was the Sega Saturn (as it was my primary system then). I clearly remembered being steered away from the Dreamcast version because of all the complaints of its 1 frame input lag. I even remember Evo tournament organizers hated the Dreamcast so much as to destroy them on stream/camera. Yet, they never complained about the PS2 version, because it supposedly used the actual arcade ROM instead of being reprogrammed as it was for the Dreamcast. I wish I hadn't been swayed in those days, as the game is way too expensive for me to get on the Dreamcast now, and I really want it just because it is on the Dreamcast.

>>4022930
Best port is the final challengers on Switch
Other than learn how to do the basic combos with Ryu/Ken
Then move on to someone new if you don't like them

>>4022930
You should also check /fgg/ on >>>/vg/
Despite some of the memery it's a decent place to lab, ask questions, and find matches depending on the game
Hell, a decent handful of people on there run FightCade as well

>>4034740
Nobody fucking wants to play an honest character
I seriously think that if your character doesn't have something everyone hates and fears, then you're wasting your time

>>4035820
They did complain about the PS2 port on the SRK forum. Anyway, the delay was so long that I actually switched to HSF2 if I wanted my SF2 fix back in the days (even with gimped Claw and nerfed O. Sagat), when there was no laptop or pc available and just a PS2.

>>4037524
That's a shame. So that means there was no good home port to play outside of emulation. I remember the HD Remix uses the Dreamcast code, does it suffer the same 1 frame input lag (in addition to artwork that I did not like, featured in some artbooks of at my local bookstore yesterday).

At least $230USD for the Dreamcast ... I will never be able to get it now ... so I best learn to settle.