/vr/ - Retro Games

>PALshit
A trashcan and some trashbags.

>2017
>buying PAL shit

It's okay OP. These people can't handle the idea that you'd grab something that used to be sold regularly. One day they might figure out that some people just enjoy the games and they'll try to add something to the conversation instead of bitching about someone else's collection.

>>4014004
>>4014015
What's the problem with PAL and PlayStation? The ports have no differences and you actually get higher resolution and no problems that NotTheSameColor has. Also you can use RGB/SoL cable with any SCART TV.

>>4013996
I recently picked up a super famicom with Seiken Densetsu 2 and 3. My everdrive still probably has a week and a half to arrive. Depending on my spare funds i may pick up Super Mario Rpg and Kirby's Dreamland 3 imports soon. Also wish the super famicom controllers had cords as long as the pal or US ones...

Not much, rarely buy stuff nowadays since prices have skyrocketed. Recently though at a flea market I found a guy selling some import stuff. I got rockman 2, 3, and 4 for a price of $50 total. He had 5 but that was $50 alone. I'm a big megaman fan and that price for the three of them was too good to pass up.

>>4014158
Why did you grab copies of SD2 and SD3 if you have an everdrive coming? I get why you would want kirby and smrpg since it can't play those but I believe it runs both the SD games fine. Collectors items?

Have a super everdrive myself, shit's pretty good. Still need to get a casing for it.

>>4014157
I'll take Never the same color over please allow for lag. And many game's aspect ratios are fucked.

>>4014174
it came with the system, i bought it on ebay. I would have bought the system via import, but i don't want to pay the very heavy shipping costs. I want a few games for Collection purposes, good boxart, or cool inserts like Fire Emblem Genealogy of the Holy War has a map with it.

Also rockman 5 is probably priced that way due to its US prices, when i order imports its usually around 6$ loose before shipping and proxy commission. Unless it was the complete works for Playstation (really nice case artwork on those).

>>4014203
>I'll take Never the same color over please allow for lag.
How does PAL lag? 50Hz is not lag. You don't seem to know what "lag" means.

>And many game's aspect ratios are fucked.
Not a problem on the PlayStation. One of the reasons it became so popular in PAL regions and wiped Nintendo out in the first place (non shitty PAL ports).

>>4014364
>3rd world europoor thinks 50hz isn't lagging behind 60hz
And it is a problem on palshit games. Continued to the PS2.

>>4014203
>Not playing your PSX and it's games at PAL 60Hz

>>4014439
I have many games in PAL and NTSC, and they are in the same speed for those coming from big studio like Nintendo or Square.

And the problem in Europe isn't the 50hrz, because the Super Famicom, Super NES or Super Nintendo have all the same processeur.

The problem comes from different resolutions between PAL and NTSC. And that some programmer from NTSC areas did not make the effort to adapt the resolution to PAL format.

>>4014450
They all display at 50hz or less. That's the PAL standard dumbass.

>>4014456
>They all display at 50hz or less. That's the PAL standard dumbass.

Except that the problem of slowness on PAL is the fault of the resolution and not the 50hz.
The processors of the Snes PAL and NTCS are the same, whose processors of the PAL and NTSC consoles run at the same speed (between 1.79MHz and 3.58MHZ)

>>4014460
How fucking dumb and young do you have to be to think 50hz is not slower than 60hz? At least I hope you're young.

>>4014465
Obviously 50hz is slower than 60hz.
Except that it's not because of this that PAL games are slow, but because of the higher resolution in PAL and the vast majority of developers working on NTSC

>>4014468
You make no sense and your shits retarded.

Except PAL TVs can do 60hz since the 90's, you can play PAL ports at 60Hz on PS1, even when the games officially don't support it and are 50Hz PAL ports and not 60Hz NTSC.

>>4014456
>>4014465
>>4014468
That's only 20% slower than NTSC, you can't even tell the difference for the most part between 50 and 60 FPS.
It's shitty ports that suck, mostly was an issue with Nintendo and Sega consoles, not as much with the PlayStation, because they got proper ports that took advantage of the higher resolution and corrected for the lower refresh rate.

>>4014616
>, you can't even tell the difference for the most part between 50 and 60 FPS.
This is some bullshit and you know it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nSSYo0npMhA

>>4014629
>for the most part
He didn't say everytime.

Off Craigslist last month:
Area 88
Amazing Tennis
Bomberman
F-Zero
F1 Super Driving
Devil's Course
Human Grand Prix
Hyper Zone
Jaleco Big RUn
Megaman X
Naki no ryu (Mahjong)
Pilotwings
SFII
Super EDF
Super Famistadium
Super Mahong taikai
Super Mario Kart
Suzuka 8 Hours

$85, Mostly Japanese titles. Apparently some guy selling his son's stuff. He also offered me a PS Vita for $50 when we met, but I didn't know the value of those or had an extra $50 on me at the time.

Just this lately (and retro). My second copy but I wasn't about to pass it up at that price

>>4014783
sad story, nice finds

>>4014629
Wow the conversion for sonic is terrible,I'v never come across a game that actually used the same audio without try to match the pitch

>>4014629
You are literary tech illiterate. This has nothing to do with 50 VS 60 frames per second. It's just a bad port.

>mega drive
No wonder, Sega and Nintendo consoles had horrible PAL ports, they just slowed down the game instead of doing a proper port.

I low how you say it's bullshit but you are so wrong yourself, it makes me laugh.

>>4014770
This has nothing to do with it in the first place.
Slowed down game =/= Framerate comparison.

>>4014863
this is a level of PAL denial like I've never seen

>>4014629
>>4014876
nothing to do with 50hz vs 60hz or ntsc vs pal, you are just a tech illerate

>>4014876
This has nothing to do with PAL vs NTSC but a lousy port.

I hope this is bait because the level of retardation would be painful.

>>4014876
>post video of a bad conversion
>think it's an example of PAL vs NTSC comparison

>>4014891
At least not everyone here is a moron.

>>4014465
PAL is not slower, it has a lower refresh rate.
Not the same thing. It's lower not slower.

>>4014897
I didn't post anything, I'm just observing.

>>4014629
>This is some bullshit and you know it
your video is, 50fps vs 60fps is hard to tell and nothing to do with a game running slowly

>>4014905
You mean shitposting?

>>4014905
So two people here don't know the difference between comparing framerates against comparing bad ports.

Also not buying it, even for /vr/ two people that are this dumb in one thread is stretching it.

>>4014915
kek, never underestimate the idiocy of /vr/

Been watching this conversation for a bit, and I don't know about how PAL works, but if I am understanding this right. PAL just has a lower cap to frames, 50 instead of 60? If that is completely wrong then I apologize.

>>4014985
>PAL just has a lower cap to frames, 50 instead of 60?
You are absolutely right.
That difference is not that easy to even tell, it's bad ports that slow the game down 20% instead of making the game run 10FPS lower that make it seem worse, like the posted video. Also bad ports usually didn't take advantage of the higher resolution, especially on older consoles. This was not an issue with latter consoles that had proper games that took advantage of the resolution and could even play in PAL mode at 60Hz when your TV supported it.

>>4014805
How is Zanesville this time of year?

Still a shithole?

Picked this up for $160 a few days ago. Not pictured that I also received are 2 Gameboys (One color and working, the other an OG w fucked screen), about 8 GB games and about 20 PSP umds.

>>4015092
Dammit posted wrong pic

>>4015092
>>4015096
Nice anon

>>4015092
Wow, if only I had places near me, goodwills are barren, retro shops are infrequent, and craigslist is ebay prices or higher.

>>4015105
>>4015101
Thanks! Finds like this are extremely rare now it seems.

>>4015076
Same as she ever was, cheap and easy.

>>4014863
>literary
And you are literally literarily illiterate.

>>4014004
Perfect. I expected this comment as soon a I clicked on this thread. Thank you

>>4015357
Butthurt? He's right though

>>4015445
Butthurt? I just couldn't resist using 3 words containing "lit" in succession, in a sentence that actually conveyed meaning relevant to the discussion.

>>4015096
Looks fun.

Best I got was Mario Bros. 2 for $10.
Not retro but today I got Fire Emblem, and Starfox Adventures for the gamecube and Ape Escape 3 for the ps2 for $15.

Picked these lovelies up from a fleamarket seller who seemed very confused about what she had. About 28 euros altogether. Not the best deal, but certainly not the worst.

The lady had something like thirty or forty "nintento tapes" for sale, MD and NES carts, large majority of which were obvious cheap repros. Prices were all over the place. Like she hadn't so much looked up prices on ebay but tacked the labels on according to how much she liked the cover or something. Wonder Boy was a fucking steal.

Weird lady. She got all cagey and evasive when I tried to ask her about the games. Maybe she stole them.

After 5 months of living in Japan, this is what I've got so far. Not the most interesting stuff, but I've got limited space here so I'm holding back a bit on my retro shopping unless I get a great deal or there's a game I really want.

>>4014439
>3rd world europoor
Daily reminder that americans have to microwave water because they're too poor to buy a kettle.

>>4014470
>babby can't understand simple logic
The difference between 50 and 60hz is minimal. Just play a game on pc and alternatively lock the framerate at 50 and 60 and see if you can spot the difference (granting you monitor can handle arbitrary framerates). The slowness of some PAL ports came from poor programming where game logic was tied to framerate, with a proper point you can't tell the difference. Also, most 32bit titles ran at 30 pr less anyway (much NTSC Ocarina of Time at silky smooth 20fps).

May was a good month.

>Famicom console
>Ganbare Goemon 2
>Bionic Commando Japanese
>Tower of Druaga famicom
>Yae-Air Kung Fu famicom
>Dreamcast that supports burned CD's
>Really good CTR
>Modded playstation 1
>Completely new unopened N64 controller

This weekend I'm going to pick up a huge box of Sega games. A co-workers is cleaning out her sons bedroom after he died (feels bad man) and she wanted to give me his video game stuff because he was a collector as well.

>>4015092
>NTSCrap
Into the trash it goes.

>>4018659
>A co-workers is cleaning out her sons bedroom after he died and she wanted to give me his video game stuff because he was a collector as well.

This story makes me wonder what will end up with most retro game collections soon when the owners die or get bored of it.

>>4018689
they will probably hotglue the controlls and give them to the youngest collector they can find

Super Metroid is pristine, Donkey Kong is mine from childhood that I just found the box and manual again, and Zelda is missing the inserts minus the instruction book. Out of curiosity, what's the rarest/most expensive thing you own and what's the best deal you've gotten on something? When a local grocery store was ending their movie and game rental program, I picked up an SNES shmup for $10. Care to guess what it was?

>>4018724
The corner of the Metroid box is not pristine. Hard to judge the rest of it.

got the ps1 and gamecube from a guy at a bootsale, they're not in the best condition but i only paid £3 for the gamecube and £2 for the ps1, the gamecube was missing the top circle part so i printed a new one and other than that and a few surface marks they are both in good working condition, the ps1 is a scph-7502 though but i already have a scph-1002

got double dragon, pokemon stadium, alex kidd, syndicate and finally comix zone, been looking for it for ages

also got a playstation link cable and 2 rf adapters for the n64/gamecube so i can play them on my older crt

all in all not a bad month, i plan on getting a snes tomorrow at mcm london comic con and some more games as well as a few light guns, hopefully the prices aren't ridiculous there

>>4018724
i managed to get a ps1 in box, 2 controllers, 2 light guns, all cables, all paperwork, box in great condition with 2 games for 50p at a local village hall charity sale

couldnt believe my luck, the ps1 was a scph-1002, the "audiophile" one

>>4018731
7502 beats 1002 into a cocked hat btw

>>4018751
yeah, i just like having then first iterations of consoles which for pal afaik is 1002

>>4018724
SNES Shump?

Phanalax?

>>4018754
For collection purposes sure, I can understand that.

Just know that for actually playing games it's objectively inferior by every quantifiable metric...

Is it me or are retro games are more expensive in more populated areas?

>>4018768
well doesnt really matter i guess since i have both

>>4018758
No, I said that because it's the rarest thing I own. Thousand dollar game for a Hamilton.

PAL is better than NTSC

>>4018790
but it's so slow!

>>4018790
As someone who has never dealt with PAL anything can you explain or show why? I am genuinely curious as to what the positive differences are.

>>4018863
There is a reason Europoors cling to the "never the same color" meme. PAL has better color and higher horizontal resolution at the expense of lower framerate and slow games unless a developer optimized especially for PAL.

>>4018863
Better colours, better resolution. It is a newer standard and simply works better than NTSC. Problems only occur when the time isn't taken to convert something from NTSC to PAL.

>>4018872
Oh that's interesting, so are there any games that are worth taking the hit to the framerate cap to get the better colors? Also do you have an example image, by chance?

>>4018884
Depends what systems you're talking about. Plenty of games for home computers are better played on PAL machines. Consoles weren't that popular in PAL countries, coders were more likely to write for computers.
Just look up what PAL is and how it works, contrasted with NTSC. I'm not referring to specific games, but the standard itself.

>>4018894
I see. So PAL being "better" than NTSC is pretty much a moot point for any NES, SNES, MD, N64, or Saturn games since the PAL versions of all of those games are inferior to their original NTSC releases?

Can you faggots take your NTSC v PAL shit elsewhere? Make a thread so other people that feel like arguing over bullshit can join you.

>>4018924
Exactly. There's literally no reason to claim PAL is better than NTSC regarding consoles. You have Terranigma as a PAL exclusive but it's moot when you consider the Japanese original runs far better.

>>4018927
i agree, this is a recent pickups thread, not a ntsc vs pal thread for fucks sake

>>4018924
Those are all Japanese consoles with Japanese games. PAL is the standard in Europe and Australia/New Zealand.

>>4018937
Back on topic, I recently got a beat up copy of Wild Arms 2 with the papers in good shape, the case cracked, and the discs lightly scratched for like $5.

>>4015096
Fuck, nice haul.

Last thing I picked up was LoZ for $12.

>>4018724
Got a copy of Einhander for $3 a couple of weeks ago. Probably the most expensive thing I own that I've gotten the best deal on.

>>4019307
>$3
>the most expensive thing I own

Jesus

>>4019315
I think he meant that Einhander is usually expensive.

>>4019315
Einhander is usually like $125+

>>4019389
>>4019394
Hehe I know that. Just lightening the mood with a little humour y'know?
>>4019394
>mfw that's the next reaction pic in my disgusted folder after the Joe Gilgun one I posted...

4 € for both. I gave him 5. Just bought it today finding it in my second go through on our yearly villagemarket.
Awesome condition too.

>>4018560
some good entertainment right there

$5/each at Goodwill, first time I found something there in ~3 months

Ready for garage sales tomorrow!

>>4019394
>>125
Um... I grabbed a copy for 50 a few months ago. Tell me you're no serious.

>>4019575
the cheapest BiN on eBay is $120, if you think you can get copies for $50 then why aren't you selling them on eBay?

because you're full of shit

>>4019610
Well, my mistake, I was looking at the receipt of mine for Legend of Mana. I know it sounds like I'm backpedaling, but the actual receipt says $80.

>>4019639
YOU ARE NOT FORGIVEN

IF THIS WAS REDDIT I WOULD DOWNVOTE YOU

>>4019639

Was it worth the $80?

>>4018963
Right, so all the consoles that matter and are worth owning are NTSC.

>>4018731
The fuck is up with the top of that Gamecube? Is that some kind of replacement for the drive logo cover?

>>4014157
I'm usually anti PAL but PlayStation doesn't really matter, you will never get 60fps anyways since it's all early 3d. The real problem is 2d stuff and interlaced PAL at 25hz THAT is eye cancer.

>>4022180
The answer is in the post you quoted, you dip

Just picked this up today. $15, but I had a gift certificate that covered the entire price.

Got into PCE lately and it was the best decision.

>>4024000
Not for your wallet, but you do you, anon. PCE is fucking fantastic.