/vr/ - Retro Games

>muh arbitrary unspoken rules i have to abide by

fuck off

>beating ghosts n goblins without using continue

>>4002768
If you really care then why not just ask them?

>>4002768
>i beat the game on the default difficulty because that's what was intended
>anything higher is e-peen bullshit

>>4002773
All arcade games need to be 1cc'd to be considered beaten.

>>4002768
Beating always means 1 credit clear on the highest setting.

>>4002845
No they don't. That's why the term 1CC even exists. To clarify that not only did you beat a game you did it in a single credit.
If you do it in two credits that's usually not bad for some games either. Similarly if you went to a real arcade with four credits even you would say you beat it.
A 1CC isn't even beating a game, it's absolutely fucking said game up with stupid level of mastery.

>>4002851
That's the point. To beat it is to overcome it. Once you've mastered it there is no reason to keep playing it, so it is beaten. It is checked off the list and finished.

>>4002846

default setting.

>I beat it with save states

>Beating a game with world warps

>>4002851
>A 1CC isn't even beating a game, it's absolutely fucking said game up with stupid level of mastery.
lolno, it's the basic level you should have in any arcade game in order to beat it. It's called an "All clear" in japan for a reason, that's how you actually beat an arcade game

>>4002986
Japanese don't care about arcades, they are cellphone gamers.

>beating a game with a save progress feature that doesn't erase progress on failure/death

>average /vr/ thread about old vidya
>mention that you had trouble with a level/boss as a kid
>enter 30yo neckbeard
>"lol you fucking pleb that shit was easy i just beat it ten minutes ago"

>>4002993
>japanese don't care about arcades
much more than you do, shitter

>>4002768
It sounds really hard to live with mental illness.

>>4003004
Yeah nah, only neckbeard nips care about this old shit.

>>4003013
>arcades with retro games are still around in Japan, even some massive ones like Taito Hey
>japanese are well known for being the highest skilled arcade players
how it feels to be a shitter

>>4003023
>japanese are well known for being the highest skilled arcade players

They have lots of extra time from NEVER fucking their women.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herbivore_men

>ITT: Autism incarnate

>>4003036
That isn't about them fucking, that's about them not marrying and having children.

>>4002845
>>4002986
>>4002851


>beat a game with 4cc
>see the ending
>says "Congraturayshuns you breat the game!" and everything
>little do us filthy Americans know that this is the fake ending screen
>The actual 1cc ending looks identical to the fake ending at first glance but only superior slanted eyes can see the super secret actual congratulation screen between the pixels
>tfw forever empty inside without the glorious nippon to fill my worthless soul

>>4003043
>a non-assertive, indifferent attitude toward desires of flesh

Sounds like no fuckee fuckee to me.

>>4002768
beat it = seeing the end credits

What more do you want? Wgaf if they used continues or played on ultra hard dick mode?

>>4003078
>seeing the end credits

or reaching kill-screen

1cc runs were a concept created by poorfags who didn't have the funds to put in a ton of quarters to finish the game, so they came up with this idea that it's not REALLY beaten until you do it as cheaply as possible on one quarter so they felt better about themselves.

>>4002770
How are they arbitrary? And it's unspoken because it shouldn't need to be addressed. If the developers intended on you to be able to save or rewind the game at any instant they would have included such features.

>>4003001
Those types are annoying, and I would wager half the time are trolls, but what dies this have to do with abusing save state features? Plenty of people legitimately beat games, and often have a difficult time doing so.

>>4003078
So getting to the credits by entering a code to get to the last level and then enabling god-mode counts as bearing a game?

>>4003121
Beating not bearing

When I was going to arcades as a kid the sole reason for playing was to beat the machine with 1 coin.
Once you did that you are usually good enough to do it again so people would gather around you and watch you play,older kids did this all the time.
There were also kids that just wasted shitton on coins and didn't give a shit.

>>4003121
Blatantly cheating obviously negates the victory. Everyone knows that.

>>4003046
>he doesn't know 1cc endings are an actual thing
Spoken like a true uneducated retard.
https://youtu.be/wBR66n28fiY?t=70
https://youtu.be/c79EmFvuIBo?t=2419

>>4003087
No, it was a concept created since the beginning of arcades because continues weren't that common until around the 90s you millenial retard.

>>4003131
So rewinding and using save states isn't blatantly cheating? At least these other things were purposely programmed into the game.

>>4003162
Who said save states aren't cheating? They clearly are not part of the game and can't be done on the actual cartridge.

>>4003137
On every game though? If someone wants to make a game just so autistic elitists can feel some sense of accomplishment then hey more power to em but it doesnt mean everybody else didnt "really" beat the game

>>4002768
whats it like to have crippling autism, OP?

>>4003162

Using a continue password is not cheating, PROVIDED that you earned those passwords yourself.
Using an acquired password IS cheating.

Using save states is cheating.
If the game was designed to only be beat in one sitting, then that's what it takes to beat it.

>>4003207
>On every game though?
Most 80s games don't allow continue, 90s games widely encourage playing on one credit and you can disable conitinues anyway. It's not an elitist thing, it's how these games were designed to enjoy them and replay them, if you have some sort of inferiority complex that's just your problem.

Most of these games weren't about "beating them", but just playing the game for fun so many times that you will eventually beat them with one credit as a result. In many 80s games there wasn't even the concept of "beating a game" since they had infinite looping. Stopping to play a game after you see the ending is mostly related to console genres, not arcade games.

>>4003207
>On every game though?
Most 80s games don't allow continue, 90s games widely encourage playing on one credit and you can disable conitinues anyway. It's not an elitist thing, it's how these games were designed to enjoy them and replay them, if you have some sort of inferiority complex that's just your problem.

Most of these games weren't about "beating them", but just playing the game for fun so many times that you will eventually beat them with one credit as a result. In many 80s games there wasn't even the concept of "beating a game" since they had infinite looping. Stopping to play a game after you see the ending is mostly related to console genres, not arcade games, because arcade games are always a blast to replay and the endings are mere extras.

>>4003308
I agree with you but thats not the general consensus

>>4003341
It's for anyone that was a regular arcade players, continues were there for the guy who went to arcades once a month and just credit-feed everything and is easy to satisfy

>>4003341

Most people are shitters though.

Born 1992 and grew up on home consoles in the UK
I've heard people say they've beaten games for well over a decade but only online. Is it an American/Japanese phrase or a universal arcade phrase that I didn't experience?

Everyone I've spoke to in person about video games say they finished them or completed them or whatever but I never hear people say they beat them other Americans online.

Just looking for some answers

>>4002768
>someone says they have autism
>they don't state what type
>no mention of what meds they take
>they just have it
>im triggered because i have it better

>>4002773
>without using continue
>only save state

>>4003631
Completed is more usual where I'm from but that depends on the language. To beat still makes sense assuming the game was made with a sense of challenge, especially when it's being punitive by taking your coin. Doesn't make sense to "beat" a RPG but you sure can beat an arcade game.

>>4003631
>>4003964
I've heard the term "clocked it" used to refer to completing a game too.

>>4002768
I hate that term.

Much prefer "finished".

>>4003164
>Who said save states aren't cheating?
This guy
>>4003078

>>4003043
I like how this implies that Japanese men go around just sleeping with masses of women at a significantly higher rate than marrying or at the very least having children

>>4002786
>People who play Doom on "Hurt Me Plenty" difficulty

>>4002768
Every game I play I turn up continues, lives and set it to easy.

I wont stop and if it bothers you I'll keep doing it.

>>4003104sage
>How are they arbitrary? And it's unspoken because it shouldn't need to be addressed. If the developers intended on you to be able to save or rewind the game at any instant they would have included such features.

Is that what /vr/ fags actually believe? If we are talking about NES/SNES/MD/GENE kind of consoles, no, adding a save feature would have brought up the price of the cartridges a shitload. Why did they use password if they could just save on the cartridge? Because it was expensive.

>>4002845
>>4002851
here's the real question:

is it still a 1cc if you only beat one loop of a two-loop game?

>>4005168
I'd say yeah, but beating two loops is much more meritorious

>>4002768
all that matters is if you had fun

>>4003162
Though it's "cheating" it can be useful. I got better at playing Puyo Puyo 2 way faster fighting Daimon over and over than I did playing "normally" and most of my play time being wasted on easy opponents.

Many games are like that.

>>4003040
>being surprised by this on 4Chan

>>4002768
Anyone who plays a game to "beat" it is a normie.

Anyone who plays many easy - normal difficulty games to beat all of them is depressed and filling a void.

Anyone who completes extremely difficult games for the internet street cred has no self confidence.

Anyone who plays the same game over and over in order to master it is an autistic.

Anyone who complains about how people waste their free time is a cunt.

>>4002768
If I beat some obscure game two decades ago, how the fuck am I going to remember that shit off the top of my head besides that I just beat it.

>>4002768
I will beat you up with no extra lives
I will beat you up without any difficulty
I will just beat you up.

>>4005645
>Anyone who plays the same game over and over in order to master it is an autistic.

What if I play a game over and over just because I like it and end up mastering it because of that even if it wasn't my goal originally?

Semi serious, I tend to be this way with games.

>>4005673
If you 1cc a game, you don't forget.

>>4007187
You're still an autist.

>>4007631
How so though? A quite small percentage of games really interest me, so when I find one I really do like I tend to play it a lot and end up getting good at it. That's autism?

>>4007691
No, you're autistic because that shitposting little kid can't think of anything else to say to you.

>>4007753
How sad for him :(

>>4002768
compare it to masturbating. why do you care about the details? games aren't "truly" beat unless you play impossible mode and one life?
how about, nah, you didn't REALLY beat it unless you didn't take a single hit.
i mean, nah, how about you didn't REALLY beat it unless you collected every item in the game and didn't save and didn't get hit
and so on. there's always going to be someone who "beat it" more than you, so you didn't really beat it.

>>4007691
Yes

>>4007451
Only if your underage and haven't done it >9000 times at a penny a shot.

What is this shitposting? I don't see why we're doing all this weird fighting for no reason. I mean you have guys yelling about what Japanese believe or how they play as if it's armchair social analysts at work, and people just blathering like little shits about arcade culture, is just a lot of nonsense and I'm tired of all this pointless bickering. Aren't we capable of more mature discussion?

>>4008395
no

>>4008395
Shut the fuck up, I don't come to the internet to agree with people.

>>4008261
You're saying you 1ccd over 9000 games? Sure thing Kiddo

>>4008395
imagine if we all worked together.....
le true power of 4chans finally realized......

>>4002773
should've figured namefag was a pleb

>>4005168
yes, it's a 1st loop 1cc

>>4002851
stay shitty brah . how many arcade games have you 'beaten' with 4 credits?? u da masta

>>4009624
An old man who's also a turbo pleb is Baby Gramps whole shtick

a 1cc is a respectable achievement in many games.

I'm working on getting 1cc on turtles in time hard mode. I almost did it, but choked on starbase.

>>4008180
What part of that counts as autism? What do you think autism even is?

>>4010165
>What do you think autism even is?

What you're doing right now.

>>4009713
>respectable achievement
Nobody gives a shit. Even the shmup community will just ask you to post hi scores

>>4010223
lol

>>4010236
achievements aren't always about getting props from others.

>>4010273
Videogames achivements are dumb shit anyway since they're gone the moment you turn off the power

>>4010236
That's because they have become overautistic in their quest for bigger numbers. They even advocate save states and credit-feeding for practice. Ask me, when it comes to that, what's the point? The entire journey, not just the final attempt when you do it is important. Doing those things even during "practice" runs is just not right. But it's pretty much necessary if you want to succeed in the "who has the biggest number" meta-game.

>>4010306
This post is comedy gold.

>>4010281
Just like anything you've done in life means nothing after you turn off the power

>>4010434
Say that to my biceps you fag

>>4010306
>they have become overautistic
>Doing those things even during "practice" runs is just not right
>they have become overautistic

Why are these kind of bullshit meme threads allowed on /vr/? Keep that shit on /v/.

>>4012216
welcome to 4chan kiddo

You literally have to be a retard to consider credit feeding until the ending as "beating" an arcade game. A literal monkey can beat any game on earth given enough credits.

If a Chess grand master allowed you endless retries on your moves until you won would you go bragging that you "beat" a Chess grand master? That is literally how fucking retarded you sound if you consider credit feeding beating a game.

Are you honestly telling me you get enjoyment out of the seeing the ending of the near non-existent arcade game story line lol? Of course you don't.

People who consider credit feeding "beating" the game are the brain dead retards who ruin pretty much every hobby. You aren't gamers. You're little faggots that need to constantly have their egos fed to BELIEVE they are gamers without actually wanting to game. Your little tard brain just needs a constant supply of worthless trophies to feed your mental illness.

>>4012596
lmao can't tell if satire or not. But I agree, 1cc-ing is the only way to 'beat' an arcade game.


What do you guys think about arcade game ports that give you limited credits, like 3 or so? does that still count as beating?

>>4012596
Woo boy that was great.

>>4009685
>>4009624
>We've 1cc'd Ghosts n Goblins

>>4012679
i've 1cc first loop daimakaimura

what have you 1cc'd namefag

>>4012687
Well, I can definitely 1cc Genesis Ghouls 'n' Ghosts which I used to do just as PTSD therapy coming off NES Ghosts 'n' Goblins, a whole other fucking story which I'm confident has enough randomized bullshit to make impossible to 1cc.

Which is the point I was making. "Beating" a game is clearly subjective and should definitely be only assumed to mean "I completed a playthrough".

>>4009713
I did it, I finally did it

1cc'd turtles in time hard mode with Raphael

I STILL choked on starbase, but this time I got there with enough lives so it didn't matter

glorious victory is mine

>>4012732
grats dude

>>4012710
NES GnG is 1cc-able

>>4012612
What do you guys think about arcade game ports that give you limited credits, like 3 or so? does that still count as beating?
Yeah at least you can actually lose on those, but clearing with a shit score because you continued feels kinda bad

>>4012758
Twinkie House.

>>4012732
Go for the real deal now, the arcade.

>>4012767
Isn't arcade Turtles in Time literally impossible to 1cc?

>>4012749
thanks.

>>4012767
I grew up on the SNES port, I'm unfamiliar with the arcade version. I might have to try it.

>someone says they beat a game
>/vr/ neckbeard tells them they didn't actually beat it because they didn't do a no hit run while blindfolded and with their hands tied behind their back, playing the original unreleased beta test build on authentic japanese hardware

>>4012795
It's possible but it's one of the most anal and badly balanced beat 'em ups out there, you have to scroll slowly to kill enemies one by one and eventually a bomb will kill you as a time out, thankfully you can cheese it with the a+b attack that gives you some i-frames.

>>4012809
I was just kidding anon, better try some Capcom arcade stuff, Turtles in Times arcade is pretty kusoge.

>>4012826
So much this, totally. Does it really require so many social skills to say "How many continues?" then gauge the conversation on how nerdy they're trying to get.

>>4012848
it seems the arcade version butchered the neon night riders music, so you must be right.

>>4012973
I think the arcade ost is 100x better but whatever floats your boat mang