/vr/ - Retro Games

=== CURRENT EVENTS ===

QUMP
-Mapping deadline reached; awaiting release?
-https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Zlfb2U2VCeS70uS6Klc2ZEOC9KtnYyCyBXEmeetjh0c/edit
-https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mp_ZqCZPJKk

SPEEDMAPPING SUNDAY
-One anon was considering hosting speedmapping sessions every Sunday; low turnout last session however
->>/vr/thread/3972060#p3977047

=== NEWS ===

[5-13] Blender now has an addon for the creation of Quake 1 models
https://wiki.blender.org/index.php/Extensions:2.6/Py/Scripts/Import-Export/Quake_mdl

[5-12] Marathon Skins Pack updated to 1.0.7
https://zandronum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=53&t=5897&p=80510#p80510

[5-12] Castlevania-style mod Nightmare of the Sin updated to 1x1
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=51404

[5-11] Source code for Amiga FPS Gloom has been released
https://github.com/earok/GloomAmiga

[5-10] Anon release; a mod with a tackle feature
https://www.dropbox.com/s/txsp7xx7wxcvln6/nighttrain.pk3?dl=1

[5-8] BloodGDX nearly finished
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MXp94HQKKOg

[5-8] Evolution of the WAD Episode 4
https://youtu.be/AwkCJQZlf8M

[5-3] Intermission E2M3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zf1Aq6mw68g

[5-2] GZDoom 3.0.1 released; bugfixes
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=56219

[5-1] Calico, a new Jaguar Doom sourceport
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/93946-calico-10-beta/

[4-30] GZDoom 3.0.0 released; FMOD out due to GPL compliance, all QZDoom features merged
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=56132

[4-29] Wraith Revenant released; an asset extraction tool for Nu-Doom
http://aviacreations.com/wraith/

[4-28] Evolution of the WAD Episode 3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wxl90i97nns

[4-24] New gameplay mod; osjc's Major Crisis
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=56076

=== PREVIOUS ===

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=== PROTIP ===

If you would like to submit any news or your personal map or mod releases here, please reply/backlink to this post.

first for Demonsteele

2nd final doomer update never ever

what is his endgame?

Gonna repeat from the last thread


What are some good tutorials for modern GzDoom builder? I want to make some maps really bad but everytime I try I suck pure shit and can't make a simple room without breaking the the game. Every tutorial I've looked at so far is either tries to explain the entire gzdoom system as fast as the humanly can and everything flies over my head or they don't talk about stuff I have questions to, or they spend 4 tutorials very carefully explaining how to unpack the gzdoom builder .zip and click the .exe.

xth for infograph anon pls make a Quake 2 image

>>3991749
Make AMD users cry

>>3991749
porting timesplittersto pc

i dunno

>>3991781
I don't know the relation between these 2 because I don't follow eCeleb bullshit

but considering Devolver's involvement, I'm sure the game got more money than just the kickstarter

Now where could my Rocket Launcher be...

>>3991797
I eat, Doomguy. It's what I do.

>>3991810
N-Not like i want to e-eat you or anything!

This one is probably out of fashion by now but whatever

>>3991781
Who are these people?

Also Strafe is in no way relevant to this board, other than trying to lure pople with fake 90's nostalgia and promises of oldschoolness that it failed to deliver.

>>3991834
He seems to be more of a Peeping Tom if anything

REEEELEASE BLOOD GDX I CANT FUCKING STAND 40FPS USING DOSBOX

>>3991838
It's Java.
So it will most probably run at below 30 on your rig.

>>3991835
The marketing was overall goofy in a fun way like the website, but ultimately ended up misleading a lot of people on the actual product. They really should've saved the idea for something closer to Quake overall

>>3991853
and it apparently only runs at 320x240 or whatever

in other words, what's the fucking point

>you can kick heads around in Demonsteele like in Blood
fucking nice

Have there been any attempts by fans to recreate the 1998 version of Duke Nukem Forever?

>>3991891
Actually, yes.

http://www.moddb.com/mods/duke-nukem-forever

>>3991894
Very cool. I kind of wish they used the Quake II engine, but I understand how much more effort it would take.

>>3991898
Didn't '98 mock-up use Unreal engine (and was basically a cutscene)

>>3991902
Nope, that was the 2001 one. 1998 was id Tech 2.

Newfag to Doom here

Is it just me or is the level design in Doom 2 kind of off when compared to Doom? I'm on M25 of Doom 2 and so many of these maps have had some weird gimmick to them, like something I was expecting to see out of fan WADs. You know, rooms full of Barons and so on. The combat is still really fun, since the new monsters add a lot of nice diversity.

I understand the need to throw dozens of enemies at the player at once, since the game might have seemed easy coming off of Doom otherwise, but it just leaves a bad taste in my mouth for some reason.

>>3991927
doom 2's development was slightly troubled, and nowhere moreso than in the maps

welcome to doom, enjoy your stay

>>3991927
General consensus I believe is that the map design as a whole is weaker. Some people may like the gimmick-oriented maps, though.

>>3991779
>We will never have Timesplitters 4
It hurts desu

>>3991984
The reason for Timesplitters dying is the dumbest thing to, if memory serves right, they couldn't decide on a boxart, so they said "fuck it" and scrapped the whole series.

>>3991779
Given Crytek's situation and how there's a working demo of TS2 in Homefront Revolution, I'm honestly surprised this hasn't happened.

So Tormentor667 is trying to out-SgtMark SgtMark and claim new GZDoom features are actually invented by Blade of Agony:

https://www.doomworld.com/vb/post/1748261
https://www.doomworld.com/vb/post/1748272

Not surprising really as Tormentor667 was basically SgtMark, before SgtMark crawled out of the jungle.

>>3991995
The marketing execs didn't think the series had a "marketable" main character to put on the cover.

Ignoring entirely that TimeSplitters 3 set up Cortez as franchise main character, complete with catchphraseTIME TO SPLIT

>>3992025
You sure it's not just Torm miscommunicating again?

>>3992025
I'm all for shitting on Torm and Mark, but this really seems like a case of attributing malice to simple dumbassery.

>>3992025
When i saw the trailer i though the same, the mod is beneficting from GZDoom effects which has been there for everyone and developed by a guy who did his contribution for the community in overall not for something specifically.

Putting that message in the trailer kinda fools people to think that features only got added because the mod which is not true.

Okay /doom/ I've got a first map for you

I made this for Nova 3 over on doomworld back in October but never got any feedback and its looking like a dead project to me so I thought I'd drop it in here, see what you think.

I made it in reverse so it starts off a bit shit as I got bored with mapping it but I think it has some redeeming parts later on. Back then I tested it in Zandronum (oops) and I do recall doing a quick run with PrBoom so they should be fine. In zDoom and GZDoom the mastermind appears to be stuck which actually makes it harder, aside from that they are fine too.


https://www.dropbox.com/s/wrmzrqg15iueik6/nova3untitled.rar?dl=1
Nova 3 texture pack included

>>3992114

Gave it a short five-minute whirl before bed, seemed fun.
Will give it a more thorough run tomorrow.

sorlag

>>3992114
Do not fist the cyberdemons

>>3992136
BONES. BITTERMAN. DAEMIA. ORBB.

>>3992025
>highrez sprites

Since when is that a good idea? They look terrible and goofy and not in a good way. They are obviously at least double the resolution than the rest of the environment, noticable even through all the trailer's horrendous HQ4X filtering.

For some reason I thought people behind WD:BoA would have a bit more taste.

>>3992143
>For some reason I thought people behind WD:BoA would have a bit more taste.
any serious study of the artistic assets in the first chapter would have revealed otherwise

>>3992136
PORN WHEN

>>3992136 >>3992141 >>3992164
I don't know what this gibberish is about but it's almost certainly off-topic. So, please, go away.

>>3992182

>>3992182
>quake 3 characters are off-topic.

>>3992182
quakeposting

does someone have a collection of all the anon maps that were posted here? i remember some of them were quite decent, and would be nice to see a collection of them all in a convinient rar file or something, since they maybe werent distributed anywhere else but here

>>3992190
i bet anon has never even masturbated to imagining hunter dominating the fuck out of mynx, calling her a worthless breeding sow who would die on her home planet in an hour while she pins her down and forces mynx to lick her clean after a long fight on tourney2, matting the porn star's crimson hair flat and fogging her visor with her sweat and body heat

>>3992210
some people prefer singleplayer

>>3992215
some people prefer getting fucked up the ass, too

if they prefer SP that's fine, Q1 is fucking fantastic

>>3992182
there's this quake game that came out many years ago

More screenshots of the Bombshell Prequel, via Twitter.

(1/2)

>>3992228
(2/2)

>>3992228
>>3992229
not gonna lie, that looks good.

>>3992229
>big empty ass hangar

Great level design

>>3992186 >>3992190 >>3992191 >>3992224
In that case I must apologise. I don't play games other than Doom.

>>3992238
You are a Heretic then.

1990 90s kid here.

What are some good old FPS I should try? Any list of games?

I recently bought from Humble Store the game Blood, I thought it looked pretty good.

Also trying to find a copy of Soldier of Fortune.

>>3992262
realms of the haunting. system shock 2, outlaws, jedi knight

what the FUCK was eric alm thinking of with map 28 of scythe

>>3992265

nice, what game is Jedi Knight? sorry i googled it and get star wars Jedi Knight Jedi Academy is that what you mean?

Outlaws looks cool

>>3992262
Soldier of Fortune is not legally available anywhere due to a mixture of licensing issues and Activision not really giving a crap. (Hopefully this'll change in the future like it did for SWAT 4?)

I was lucky enough to find a copy at a second hand shop, but honestly, just look for a torrent or something.

>>3992278
Jedi Knight = Dark Forces 2
Jedi Knight 2 = Jedi Outcast

Jedi Academy is a weird Jedi Outcast expandalone thing.

>>3992262
Why hadn't you played any FPS's in that time to begin with?

>>3992238
You've never even thought about giving Quake a try?

>>3992238
Guess I'm going to have to cast a Hexen on you

>>3992323
I'm quaking in my boots.

>>3992327
You fool! Don't you realize just how much Strife you could cause?

>>3992330
Don't worry, it's nothing worth shedding Blood over.

>>3992228
>>3992229
i love the asthetic, who's making this anyway?

>>3992345
Voidpoint, a studio setup by the EDuke32 folks made up of various Doom and Duke modders. Only one I know of being involved is Cage.

What are Anons working on today?

I've gone back to my Quake inspired horror wad and started work on a new level 1 and level 2.

I wanted to have a Half Life style intro level without using any cutscenes or NPCs that would break the flow. I've finally settled on using one way portals to do some spooky special effects, then having a normal level with KDitD enemies.

>>3992374
>people would rather put quake things in doom than actually make things for quake

>>3992374

>>3992381
Basically, yes.

I played around with Doom and Duke editors as a kid, so gzDoombuilder was easy to pick up. I started this project because I wanted to play around with more advanced editor features and Decorate, and it grew into an actual megawad project from there.

>>3992381
(Sad HUUH)

>>3992334
Maybe it's worth a simple Descent?

>>3992428
Or things needs gonna become Unreal?

>>3992228
>>3992229
i'm very interested in this

Which map do you guys play when you wanna try out a new weapon/gameplay mod?
I usually go for plutonia map01 since it gives me most of the weapons and monsters but not ALL of them, so i dont get everything spoiled before i've even played.

>>3992192
you could search for all the major filehosting sites on the archive and get most of them

>>3992478
The first few Doom2 maps usually:

- It's most likely the mod was tested on those, thus most likely to work correctly.

- Also, I know the maps and how they play thoroughly, so I can be sure what I'm seeing is mod behaviour rather than the map.

Anyone here using ecwolf 1.3.3 64-bit?
I can't get my damn mouse to work. I wonder if it's just me or everyone.

>>3992374
Still trying to come up with an interesting visual effect for the screw attack for Space Hunter, current idea is the main barrel retracts, two metal spikes spring up and lightning arcs between them while electricity and shit flies out of the player.

>>3992495
What about the 32 bit build?

>>3992510
Same thing happens. Mouse doesn't get locked on the window of ecwolf. Clicking and moving doesn't do anything.

>>3992510
>>3992523
Actually I have noticed that clicking works on loading screen where it says that game is not shareware. Not working in the game menu or the game.

>>3992510
Why would it make any difference?

>>3992430
If it does I'll have to run a Marathon

>>3992590
aren't marathons only for Outlaws?

>>3992590
These posts are making me feel like going on a Redneck Rampage

>>3992498
The booty gal outstretches her arm,
it gradually starts to emit light. When it's shining like a lightning
>electricity and shit flies out of the player.

>>3991731

>DFRetro released a Retrospective of Quake II and how it changed the FPS genre

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DFYjSkUdfb4

>>3992002
Bear in mind the TimeSplitters 2 "demo" in Homefront: TR appears to have files for every single SP mission, every single SP mission, all the dialogue, all the music, and a bunch of other stuff. It reeks of being a full port of the game hobbled to avoid licensing problems with Crytek. Someone with the skills should sit down with the game and determine whether it would be possible to access the other missions and possibly rewrite the menus.

>>3992606
Sure you didn't do enough damage back in Nam?

>>3992606
But doesn't it make you feel a little Duke Nukem 3D Megaton Edition?

>>3991995
>>3992043
i thought it had more to do with free radical putting everything on haze and ultimately killing the company as a result

that's pretty much what happened to their battlefront 3

>>3992607
what did he mean by this

>>3992043
>No matter what time period he ended up in the catchphrase awkwardly fell flat on its face
TimeSplitters 2 was the best in terms of game play, but 3 had the most entertaining single player campaign.

>>3992634
Sorry for my bad englando, just tried to make a suggestion.

>>3992637
You might have me confused then, Space Hunter is the metroid mod, not Term's Booty Project.

>>3992628
If you feel like that you are an Eradicator then.

>>3992043
>Cortez not marketable

But he was the most likable bald space marine character in 90's console shooters. His dialogue and interactions with the other characters were brilliant.

>>3992639
I am now On Crimson Tides of shame

>>3992616

>feels sad that theres no Port of X360 Q2 Engine

>>3992635
It was a really good game and deserved to do better. The sections involving working with future versions of yourself were pretty clever, especially the part where you revisit the first level again and turn out to be the sniper who was covering you in the intro.

>>3992650

is the same shit as Q2Xp and yamagi anon

but then id be glad if Q2 had received a better support nowadays for custom SP mods

>>3992228
>>3992229
Exciting! I hope it comes out soon.

I didn't even play the main game, never will, this seems like the thing that should have been released instead.

>>3991927
Less than half the maps are genuinely good (most are before map 12), then it ranges from mediocre to poor.

The new assets really is what makes the game though, and with TNT and Plutonia you have great proofs of concepts of the monsters and textures in use.

>>3992639
Still, have a thousand hours in paint illustration.

>>3991729

Hello /doom/ers

Wanted to know if sticking with ZDoom instead of GZDoom is worth it or if I am missing out on some high quality mods/maps.

If I should run GZDoom how do I disable every single pretty graphics meme on it to run as smooth as ZDoom?

>mfw Plutonia Experiment

>hurr durr let's put every monster available in every single room!!
>OH and let's enclosure the player so he can't move while the enemy shoots him
>lets also give sparse ammo XDDD that will entertain the player
>why not put monsters hidden behind walls behinds walls EVERYWHERE? such fun XD


What where they thinking.
And that Arch-vile maze man, it sucked. The navigation through the maze and the arch-viles is not even the bad part, those fucking doors that activate by passing through certain spots is what sucks.

I give up, I can't enjoy it. TNT was tough, but this is another whole bullshit level. I don't remember if I started this game on Hurt me plenty or Ultra-violence, but damn, I don't want to play anymore.
Was PE supposed to be played without mouselook when it came out?

>>3992696
GZDoom now has the software renderer built-in, even supporting truecolor thanks to the QZDoom fork.

>>3992697
Yes, it was supposed to be played with autoaim.

>>3992697
I'm a good way through TNT on Ultra Violence at the moment and I'm thinking this is the challenge level I'm the most comfortable with. From what I hear Plutonia is all kinds of bullshit but it's intended for the most skilled players.

For the more seasoned players here, is Plutonia harder than Back to Saturn X? I tried BTSX a few months ago and while the music was wonderful the difficulty was fairly harsh (on UV difficulty).

>>3992702
Yeah, but how do I make my performance better in it? GZDoom usually lags for me.

What is the thread's favourite mod combo right now?
Mine is Final Doomer (Doomguy weapon set) + Ketchup.
It makes the guns so much more satisfying to use without changing anything else.

>>3992726
[gameplay mod]+[boom mapset] is a tried and true combo that i usually go with

>>3992067
Nah, it's the guy who claimed to have invented the Invasion mode with Stronghold, several years after Skulltag was already out. Remember that.

>>3992697
>retarded shitter posts disgusting 3d tranny
really stimulates my cerebrum

Are there any DOOM mods where a time stopping ability had worked?
Just curious.

>>3992770
Yes, sans.wad.

>>3992770
Stopping time completely? Skulltag had a powerup where all enemies and projectiles stop and I'm sure the feature is used elsewhere. Bullet time though? ZDoom doesn't have a sense of timescale, but Black Warrior somehow did it.

>>3992697
if plutonia was shorter I'd probably would've enjoyed it more

playing through it made me realize why alot of hard games are short

>>3992697

>>3992616
In hindsight i'm surprised no one ever recreated the N64/PS1 content for the PC version of Q2. Especially with all the Doom 64 projects over the years.

>>3991879
>>3991853
Wait, what?

I thought something like GZDoom for Blood is coming.

I just want to play the second episode while actually being able to see shit underwater...

>>3992770
Russian Overkill did it with one of the shotguns and LCA for complex doom also has a freeze-sphere

>>3992702
So, which do I choose if I want fancier-than-vanilla Doom?
Software or hardware?

>>3992821
It's a matter of taste. Play a bit with either and see how you go, there's a setting to help software rendering not get as fucked up with vertical aiming.

>>3992772

>mfw playing Heretic for the first time

>>3992846
>mfw the start of the Hexen expansion

>>3992238

You should rectify that.

>>3992726
I've been having a blast with Ketchup + Run For It + Fractal Doom

>>3992770
Any mod that uses PowerTimeFreezer.

YEEAAAH!

>>3992890
GET PSYCHED

>>3992890
>Join Samsara server
>Vertigo starts playing

>>3992834
>there's a taunt feature now

Is Marathon as easy to get as Doom? Not at home to try so just curious.

>>3991927
You're not alone; this is the general consensus that D2's is a bit weaker as a whole in map terms.

>>3992381
I don't understand it either, but when I started modding, I started on Quake, so Doom seems a bit off to me.

>>3992229
>>3992228
>those sprites and artwork
Cummies
>>3992834
>killing a pinky with a ketchup
I don't even like undertote.

>>3992913
If I'm not mistaken; marathon is freeware nowadays.

So it's actually EASIER

>>3992926
Yup. https://alephone.lhowon.org/

You'll want to fuck around with the configs a bit if you want a FOV that doesn't make you blow chunks, though.

>>3992926
>>3992938
Thanks fellas

>>3992846
>mfw nonexistent mapping/modding community for heretic
I'd gladly kill a fellow human being for a Smooth Heretic mod.

What are some Mother's Day related wads?

>>3991770
Nobody? I just want to make a room with no ceiling without the game having an aneurysm.

>>3992953
map30 of karma sutra

>>3992958
You mean a sky texture? Just set the ceiling texture to F_SKY1 or whatever it is.

Here's a great tutorial by Linguica about how to make a vanilla map in GZDoomBuilder and get used to the very basics. https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/74073-vanilla-level-editing-lesson-1-preliminary-reconnaissance/

>>3991770
Not sure if useful, but I think GZDoom Builder is a fork of Doom Builder 2, so maybe tutorials for that would still apply for the former.

I learned a lot from this dude's tutorials:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A2obx-uXg7w&list=PLLYZ4UyVOFdj5UsapI3dl0vhp4EFvw02P&index=16
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLLYZ4UyVOFdj5UsapI3dl0vhp4EFvw02P

(Note: the videos in the playlist are in reverse order, so watch the last ones first.)

>>3992970
>>3992981

Is that actually how it's done? I thought there was a way to just disable the ceiling. Thanks to you both for the tutorials at least.

how do i shot web

>>3992985
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z13AlIrhSf0&list=PLLYZ4UyVOFdj5UsapI3dl0vhp4EFvw02P&index=12

Here's an actual tutorial for making an Outside area.

>>3992985
I've never touched doom builder and i know that, man

>>3992846

Is this a bad thing? I love Heretic, even more than Doom 2.

>>3992947

It's a real shame.

>>3993002
"Sexual violence" implies I'm enjoying the violence of Heretic on a sexual level, anon.

>those gauntlets

So any good melee-focused Doom mods besides DemonSteele and GMOTA (which I have 0.9.9 of and apparently it doesn't work with GZDoom 3.0 or above anymore)?

>>3993016

Hexen ;)

>>3993026
i admit that i wouldn't mind punching everything to death with the gauntlets, but i dislike Hexen overall with how boring its structure is

>>3993016
Damn, DemonSteele looks great.

I assume GMOTA would work with ZDoom?

>>3993016
>GMOTA doesn't work on 3.0
It sounds like something on your end. I just tried it and it works for me (that said, GZDoom 2.4.0 crashed almost every save attempt for me, so I know your pain)

>>3992778
this is why you pistol start each map and play them each individually in a random order. plutonia is 32 hard minigames.

>>3992986
Cyberrunner had a grapple wire in it's last release.

>>3993032
Well, the error i'm getting is this
>Script error, "GMOTA_V0.9.9.pk3:actors/lordblaz/zarach.txt" line 2727:
>State SUPERlightningstrike2.12 links to a state with incompatible restrictions.


>Execution could not continue.

>1 errors during actor postprocessing

>>3992953
>What are some Mother's Day related wads?
>>3992960
>map30 of karma sutra

you are sick in the head dude lol

Anybody got a mega of the Soldier of Fortune community pack 6.2?

>>3990237

Speaking of that...

Is there any other MAP in recent memory that has caused such a collective groan in the Doom community for how bad it was other than MAP07 from D2INO?

I remember how everyone else that wasn't directly involved in the project flat out shat on it big time. And the previous maps were not of any help to avoid that, either. MAP06 is also indescribably atrocious on its own.

And for a mapset full of unconventional level designs, the fact that MAP07 had that kind of reception still sticks to me even after its release.

So I'm trying to get the music in Quake to play automatically with quakespasm and am kind of stuck. I have the music in id1/music and they're all in ogg format. Checked online and the only solution I could find was making sure the tracks were named along the lines of "track02" rather than "track002" which was already the case and just to be sure I was able to load them through the console commands. Anyone have any idea what to do or am I just stuck having to load through console?

YOU WANT WATCH WANG WASH WANG?

[/spoiler]it's 20 years

>>3993060
ctrl+s newfag
also yes it's been 20 years since SW release, I'd say something nice about but I can't

>>3993059
Do you have the 'play external music' option enabled in the options menu? What ever it's set to, set it to the opposite and see if it does anything.

>>3993036
I just went and looked it up, and I couldn't make sense of any of it. Completely different from how I did it, and probably much smarter.

>>3993067
Changed it from on to off and nothing happened.

>>3992986
What map is that? It looks cool.

>>3993076
Mind uploading your config file anywhere?

Also, none of the usual stupid mistakes: you're not running it from an archive, you don't have it stuck in some weird documents/appdata folder that will fuck with how a program runs, you're sure there's no typos in the name of any path or folder?

>>3993081
Akzoz city by zaneion.

>>3993085
https://ufile.io/norpj

Here you go.

As far as folder paths go all I did was download the mega file in the pastebin and but the id1 folder into the quakespasm folder like so.

>>3993101
Your config file looks fine, even if the site is weird. For future reference Pastebin works fine.

This is gonna sound silly, but try renaming your main folder to just 'quakespasm' without the dashes, numbers, periods, etc. Quake sometimes doesn't like files or paths with particularly long or intricate names.

>>3993105
Still nothing and just to be sure I tried running it in compatibility and as admin as well afterwards. And yeah my bad I totally forgot about pastebin as dumb as it sounds right after using it.

>>3993089
I can't find it on /idgames.
Where can I download it?

>>3993108
Wow. I'm totally lost, then. Shit.

Tried any other sourceports, like Fitzquake (which QS was branched off of)?

>>3993114
Nah not yet but I'll give it a go. Not a big deal if it doesn't work since they can still be loaded through console commands but the convenience of not having to do that every stage would be nice. Thanks for the help man.

>>3993114
So it doesn't work with Fitzquake but it does however work with DarkPlaces so I guess I'll stick with that.

>>3993125
>DarkPlaces
rip anon

>>3993129
It's not ideal but it will work if I'm feeling lazy I guess.

>>3993123
wtf i wanna play q2 now

>>3993138
that's genetech, a map/mod for doom 2

>>3991984
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rsZfy8nDgMI&ab_channel=TimeSplittersRewindOfficial

eh good enough

>>3991984
Too much content.

>>3993059
I think by default, Quakespasm turns the music volume to 0, try increasing it in the options.

>>3993184
His music is set right, the config in >>3993101 has it set at 1 like it should be.

This part's a bit iffy and I'm not certain on how to go about it; it's missing something but I can't pick up on it.

I'm not sure if I'm going to keep the liquid flats.

>>3993190
Mindfully; I'd like to add some cloud or rain or thunder to this area; but most of the scripting end is too confusing; an actor or thing would be easier for me to comprehend; but this isn't the only thing missing.

>>3993129
>>3993184
>>3993187
Got it working with fitzquake. Used a converter and changed the music from .ogg to .mp3.

So i've got Quake 2 on GOG, how would I go about playing online with other folks?

>Finish a single room for map
>Run out of ideas and progress stops
Every time.

Saw video of Quake 2 64, and it had me wondering, can you rotate weapon sprites in-engine, to give it a sway effect?
If not, that could be a cool feature to add.

I've realized I like Wolf3D, and especially Spear of Destiny, more than Doom I-II. I just love the 1930s-1940s comic book feel it has way more than Doom's edgy 90s sci-fi. I love how easy it is to make new maps, too. If only Wolf had multiplayer...

Am I baby ducking hard here or is this a justifiable opinion?

>>3993216
Looking over at the /arena/ general on /vg/, looks like you can use your full copy with this
http://q2s.tastyspleen.net/

>>3991731
Reply to news post.

So, after several weeks of work, here's a beta for Project MSfiX'd.

http://www.mediafire.com/file/3f2rkrodhlaaraw/projectmsfixd_vr051417.pk3

For those of you who might not have caught it in the last few threads, this is my attempt to, as the lousy pun implies, fix things that were causing Project MSX to malfunction in more recent versions of GZDoom. This project is not to be confused with kodi's (the guy making a grapple hook, holy shit that's awesome) revamp of MSX. Mine aims to keep things working as accurately as possible to the original, adding mechanics only where it is necessary, or where the player has the option of using it or not.

Overview:
-Built-in cross-IWAD support. MSfix'd can be played in Heretic, Hexen & Strife, in addition to Doom!
-A wealth of user customizable options, such as the ability to set opacity for HUD elements, disable the rendering of the helmet, double-tapping movement controls to initiate evasion & sprint, auto-reloading, and a whole lot more.
-Support for Jimmy's Jukebox (see Note 2)

Notes:
1) This is NOT an addon for MSX, but a standalone mod
2) MSfiX'd supports Jimmy's Jukebox, but Jimmy's Jukebox is intended for Doom; you can still enter the 'jukebox' map and make a playlist, but the level will be mostly untextured and depending on the IWAD, enemies spawn in because of SpawnNum conflicts. Jimmy intends for JJ to become a ZScript-based addon, eliminating these issues, so fingers crossed.

Features Planned for Future Versions:
-Option to bring you back to scope if you manually reload a gun from scope
-Colorful Hell support
-Voiced female player

>>3993217
This is putrid bloated cunt saying: Welcome to the club friendo!

Now if you don't terribly mind me putting my grubby fingers on the map; maybe I can sketch some things out? Just share your development thoughts.

>>3993113
I don't know, he posted it here when I asked him. It's old and unfinished, but I wanted it as a code testing playground.

>>3993216
Get some mods for it.

>>3993190
can you like, only do this on screenshot saturday?
Maybe its just me but this doesnt seem interesting enough to justify making as much posts about it as you do

>>3993217
Why not make a map that's one big compilation of all those single rooms?

>>3993218
>Quake
>weapon sprites
What?

>>3993236
>don't post or contribute anything to the thread, ever, even if its on-topic and the thread is rather slow
No thanks friendo.

>>3993223

If you play this in Heretic or Hexen and get far enough to find a Jetpack, I'd be interested to know what you think of it.

Also, I'm thinking of scrapping the Hazard Screen (replaces Strife's Environmental Suit). It was absolutely necessary to add, because Strife's toxic damage doesn't work like the rest of the Doom engine games, but I think it's maybe one new keybind too many. I already had to add two more; one for the Wings of Wrath replacement & the other for the Torch. What I've thought of doing is adding hazard resistance to the Shield Booster. The problem with that is, you would then need to be able to use the shield booster while your shields are already at max. That's not a problem to code, but I'm not sure I like the idea. Tell me what you think.

>>3993247
I meant the sway of the weapon models looked like they were flat sprites being rotated, rather than actually being rotated on the model.

>>3993223
Awesome work anon. I'll get right to digging through your code - especially interested in how you untangled the spaghetti grenadese.

I may have broached the subject before but I'm a bit scatterbrained so I don't recall, but if you're interested in some hold-to-zoom code for the scoped rifles you may be able to have some use of this as a template, custom functions notwithstanding:
>https://pastebin.com/kxw7riPx

P.S. You should be able to convert the zoom code to use A_JumpIf functions only under decorate rather than zscript I think.

>>3993257
>especially interested in how you untangled the spaghetti grenadese.

Here's how: Basically, I didn't. I pretty much just copy-pasted all of the 'grenade weapon' code into a base weapon that all of the proper weapons inherit from. Also did this for spriting, jetpack and the use of Health Stims & Shield Boosters.

>if you're interested in some hold-to-zoom code for the scoped rifles
Nice! I'll definitely implement that as an option. Thanks!

Metroid Dreadnought + DoomKrakken's Monster Randomizer + Putrefier is not an easy experience to say the least.

>>3993267
>Basically, I didn't.
Man, I envy you. I only managed to turn one mess into another.

>base weapon that all of the proper weapons inherit from
This solves so many issues holy shit. Note for anyone else doing this zscript - there's a tricky detail with this: if you use Goto MyState it'll use the MyState of the base weapon, but if you use Return ResolveState("mystate"); in a state of the base weapon it'll go to the MyState of the actual gun instead. Combined with liberal use of ["----" A 0] frames you can avoid duplicating a lot of ugly code for things like reloading and ammo type switching.

>>3992702
what are you talking about? GZDoom has always had the software renderer built in for as long as I can remember.

It's only just become a menu option with the new renderer settings menu.

>>3993284
That Metroid hub is neat. Is that all the mod does?

>>3993290
>if you use Goto MyState it'll use the MyState of the base weapon, but if you use Return ResolveState("mystate"); in a state of the base weapon it'll go to the MyState of the actual gun instead.

Ah, so the former's like Goto Super::YourStateHere and the latter's a virtual jump, like A_Jump* functions.

>>3993298
Dreadnought basically alters all the weapons/pickups to be Metroid items and weapons, complete with morph ball, space jump and so forth. It's essentially a gameplay conversion mod.

>>3993301
Yeah. I didn't know A_Jump behaved liked that though because I barely even use it any more.

How do I change the sky to a custom one for a Boom format map? Searching for how-tos just mentions steps for ZDoom maps.

>>3992953

HDoom, make them all mothers.

>>3993319

>>3993223
Good shit, anon.

Just a quick game on Scythe 2 between modding sessions.

Still think Grand Cross is OP

>>3993316
make a linedef with special 271 (normal) or 272 (flipped), give it a tag number, and the new sky on the first sidedef's upper texture. assign the tag to all sectors in which you want the new sky.

tip: use tag 0 to apply to all sectors in the map that otherwise don't have a tag.

unfortunately if you have a bunch of tagged sectors with sky ceilings you have to make a linedef for all of them.

Does anyone know how to make an inventory bar item that does not get spent upon use?

>>3993352
no

>>3993352
You could always make the item give one more of itself on use, I guess. But I'm no good at ACS outside of mapping.

>>3993352

You're either looking for the +INVENTORY.KEEPDEPLETED actor flag, or do the following within the actor's Use state:

ACTOR UsableItem:CustomInventory
{
States
{
Use:
TNT1 A 0 // do stuff here
Fail
}
}

Keep in mind that for the latter, you actor HAS to inherit from CustomInventory for Fail to work.

>>3992616
not saying DF or their content is inherently bad but does anyone else just hate their commentators?
I specifically have memories of them disliking a version of a game that lacked motion blur.
also
>using "HD" content packs

are the shadow warrior expansions any good?

>>3993369
>INVENTORY.KEEPDEPLETED
>fail

Thanks, these worked splendidly!

>>3993334
Thanks for the response, got the sky in working order now.

>>3992772
>>3992775
>>3992816
>>3992883
Wonder if Kinsie could take a look at these for the Artifact, when he manages to put it in MetaDoom.

>>3993113
Probably you will never find it there anyway, it is an unfinished map which has nothing to give as gameplay, it is totally a visual demo of a scrapped project i had in mind in 2011 while i was starting Hunter's Moon, still if you wanna download it and stare the city's beauty by yourself i can give the link.

>first map of the second chapter in TNT
>the first thing you see is a plasma rifle just sat right in front of you
>it doesn't even trigger an ambush
Maybe it's just me, but this is about seven or eight maps into the iwad. The plasma is a really powerful weapon, and TNT just hands it to you like it's a shotgun or something. I guess I'm used to finding these in secret areas or after tough fights.

>>3993420
A plasma rifle is barely enough to kill the baron in that room. You still have to deal with every other enemy.

>>3992775
>Black Warrior somehow did it.

Probably by giving & taking away a time freeze powerup very quickly.

>>3993398
I wonder if ZScript will make timefreeze/timeslow more viable.

>>3993443
nope, if it was given/taken very rapidly, there would be sound constantly cutting in and out

black warrior is wizardry under the hood
complete asian wizardry

>>3993391
wicked mate. sweet. big up yourself. damn i gotta stop listening to illegal rave pirate radio

>>3993443
>>3993451
Then what can we do, wait for another version of GZDoom or something?

>>3993326
Never played Scythe. Is that weapon included?

Does anyone here play Doom or Duke with a gamepad/joystick? I used to use a MIDI port joystick for both.

>>3992775
>>3993443
I have an idea on how to do bullet time and I'm thinking about implementing it in my mod. Now that there are "event handlers" even slowing down projectiles in mid flight and decreasing globale gravity could probably be done relatively sanely (still bonkers though).

All monsters will have to call A_SetTics(DesiredTics*GlobalTimeScale) every single frame.

>>3993456
>illegal rave pirate radio
As in, ***FM*** pirate radio? I thought it wasn't a thing any more. Where can I catch a stream?

>>3993442
True enough. I'm liking TNT so far though, even if it has a raging erection for chaingunners.

>>3993471
No, he's using the Nightmare of the Sin weapon set, inspired by Castlevania. The chain whip is a bit overpowered but otherwise it's a good mod.

>>3993510
You can now direclty alter those parameters via CVAR. Almost everything can be edited this way.

Also, try to leave the Boss for last.

Metadoom cheats:

>impulse 16 (in the console) - SNES Doom mode
>impulse 35 - "Micro-Rocket Placeholder Mode", does nothing for now
>impulse 2004 - Doom 3 mode
>idkfa - Does the usual, but also puts an exclusive item in your inventory that spawns a Demon Key when used

Metadoom cheats:

>impulse 16 (in the console) - SNES Doom mode
>impulse 2004 - Doom 3 mode
>idkfa - Does the usual, but also puts an exclusive item in your inventory that spawns a Demon Key when used

>>3993523
heh heehhn intensifies

>>3993523
When I tried to cheat search, it just told me I was too good to cheat, even when I had sv_cheats 1 on, and on multiple difficulty modes, when before it would flat out kill me.
That's bullshit.

>>3992890
sega megadrive music playing at the distance

>>3993539
And I still can't get them to work, what gives?

>>3993220
I like Wolf3D's simpler and faster paced gameplay more than Doom's but the level design is kinda bad. SoD has good level design though so I like that over Doom.

Are there any vanilla map sets that you can recommend? I liked SPEARMPIXSOD.

so i figured out that i can get a lot more done if i try to think more like a HL mapper
also i'm really finnicky about a good texture set

>>3993536
didn't you make that solid-color-flat trick by just scaling the sector's floor and ceiling graphics by a million?

>>3993564
That looks like a very good texture set and like something I want to play.

>>3993564
How would an HL mapper think?
Also that texture set looks great

>>3993585
>How would an HL mapper think?
Corridor -> Cutscene -> Corridor -> Cutscene.

>>3993589
kek

>>3993539
>>3993552

MetaDoom's cheats don't work with sv_cheats enabled. Forgot to mention that. idkfa needs it, though.

They're fairly small as easter eggs, so I wouldn't pull your hair out trying to find them.

>>3993568

That is exactly what Kinsie did.

>>3993582
>>3993585
BTSX E1

>>3993613
They still haven't officially released the BTSX E1 textures yet, have they?

>>3993629

hasn't stopped torm

on multiple occasions

>>3993629
No. And they specifically asked that people don't use them until all 3 eps are out. Not that anyone can stop you, but it's a tad bit shitty.

if i was doing a map with btsx textures it would just contain a map and you'd have to load it on top of btsx_e1.wad.

How do you play Ghoul's Forest 3 multiplayer using Z or GZDoom?

>>3993629
nope

>>3993663
call it a headstart in planning

>>3993284
>>3993298
>>3993305

But is outdated, and no one wants to update it to Prime 3 and D4T levels of gameplay, like melee, Upgrades like Varia Suit and Shields, and ofc. keep it working with the latest GZD and Zand3 versions of it, or even create a Wad based on this mod.

even with term saying that its free to any1 pick up and continue, there's even a guy who went on metroid reddit and even asked term on his tumblr page if he could upgrade it, but he disappeared.

>>3993376

Q2XP comes with that, and it fixes the fucktard jittering, really i had seizures seeing the fucking ripples every time back when i played it 4 the 1st time when i was a kid

i loved the PSX port back then more than the PC one because of that, it was a different engine but it was "better" than the Q2 Engine in a lots of things

I remember playing with the Berserker 'source port' of Q2 before but I don't remember it being this awful or forcing an M4 over the machinegun for no good reason. The only other completely new weapon model is a Super Shotgun with no animated pump. God this port's a mess, maybe I should check out XP after all.

>>3993702
yo dawg, we heard u like shooting so we put a sight in your sight so you can aim while you aim

>>3993719
that's not even a sight anymore, they put a fucking fighter jet heads-up-display photo as a nonsensical image on it

>>3993376
I dislike the commentary for the most part but it is better than RetroAhoy where it feels like the guy is just reading off a wikipedia page. Also they barely glossed over Quake 2 source ports and modding and didn't even mention the most popular client.

>>3993216
use Q2PRO and check out /arena/ general some of us are planning on playing quakeworld next sunday and potentially quake 2 the sunday after

>>3992262
>he paid money for a pre-configured DOSBox launcher

>>3992834
>Some anon mentioned that he supposed to be left-handed
>Now I can't look at this webm without my inner autist going apeshit
>don't even care about Undertale


Speaking of left and right, is there an ability to mirror levels in GZDoom like in Crispy Doom? It was a fun way to replay old levels

>>3993739
Maybe you could reverse the display and switch left and right.

I know it's probably the edgiest wad, but I like the Moonman wad for Doom. They replaced the basic shotgun with a rifle that is shit against the imps, but really satisfying against the troopers.

It's really fun to shoot a sniper in the distance with the new weapons.

>>3993727
Dunno, I like RetroAhoy's calm commentary, compared to the random metal parts in DF Retro. I can listen to RetroAhoy while doing something else.

>>3992616
>"the jump was revulatory"
... what?

>>3992890
BJ still a cute.

>>3993220
I like Wolf3D/SoD better than Doom as well, even though I kinda hate how all the levels tend to sort of blur together. I always assumed that just made me a shitty hipster.

So I've been wanting to try my hand at Quake mapping, but I see there are lots of Trenchbroom builds available. Which ones do you guys recommend? Looking for a decent mix of features and stability.

>>3992238
>>3992245
>>3992323
>>3992327
>>3992330
>>3992334
>>3992428
>>3992430
>>3992590
>>3992603
>>3992606
>>3992624
>>3992628
>>3992645
literally the front page of reddit. general is AIDS as always I see.

>>3993797
The newest beta version, it's the most feature complete and none of the builds are completely stable.

Save often. It won't shit itself often but if you go crazy with brush subtraction or splitting it'll throw its hands up and number-barf.

>>3993801
>nofunallowed.jpeg

>>3993801
At least they're doing it for free, otherwise they'd be In Pursuit Of Greed.

>>3992810
PSX Quake 2 had some interesting new enemies.

>>3993801
DOOM is on the front page of reddit!?

>>3993727
Is this CTF or Chaos?

>>3993801
Go to bed. It's 3am in bavaria and you need to be up early to wash your lederhosen in the danube.

this texture pack is pretty banging

>>3993754
LOL. Ignoring the meme arrows, this shit wouldn't have been out of place in some godforsaken FTP server's wad directory two decades ago. The spirit truly lives.

>>3993693
>But is outdated, and no one wants to update it to Prime 3 and D4T levels of gameplay, like melee
>like melee
stopped reading there

Let us not forget. A perk of being on mobile.

>>3993801
>>3993904
Fucking wrecked.
Now we can resume talking about Doom.

i refuse to believe a wad with this good aesthetics and gameplay was made by a bunch of literal who japs

>>3993994
What's it called?

>>3993801
as stupid as it may be, they could just be copying that mediocre trailer for that one steam game

>>3993996
jpcp

>>3994000
Arigatou.

>>3993834
That's ChaosDM

>>3993994
There was a map in Community Chest 4 which had the same kind of visual, open field with high contrast detailing, but it was more towards sci-fi colored and space themed.

>>3993994
BELIEVE IT

I'm halfway through TNO now. currently on the level where you infiltrate a nazi submarine via gutted torpedo.

... is it just me or does the game like lockdown spaces as much as nudoom? because all my encounters with soldiers so far have been mostly cover based fights, with me sprinting to random points on the space I fight them in mainly to look for ammo and health. dual wielding is extremely situational, there's not many opportunities where you can actually head in and deal as much damage as you'd like outside of corridors with rooms branched out at either side, and even then grenades are just far more effective.

>>3993994
it's funny because you say that while posting a scroll of that particular map, which is pure garbage

>>3994014
>halfway
anon that's nearly the end of the game.

>>3994000
>this music in Map02
Funky. I love it.

>>3993032
>>3993038
It doesn't work because I forgot to put a spawn state for that lightning actor, somehow it's been working until just now. I fucked up. I've fixed the problem but I'm waiting for this massive update I'm working on and just do it all at once.

>>3994017
maybe ur just bad

>>3992810
Q2 community is mostly focused on MP. I wish Quakeworld's community was tight knit like tastyspleen.

>>3994034
If I were named after the map, I guess you could say so

>>3994034
switch hunting is ass, boyo.

>>3993802
I don't know if it's simply a remnant of my days with WorldCraft, but I was told as a mapper not to use brush subtraction because it can create some geometry the game can't build right. I don't know if it was an issue with the HL engine, the current compile tools, or WorldCraft though.

>>3994065
the keens are marked on the map so its hardly hunting

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=agt3Dc1xPYM Critterdemons when?
>that agitated skeleton

>>3994168
>reminding me of Revenants
I just finished Doom II today and god damn did some of those revenant fights fuck me up. Seriously, the tracking on their fireballs are insane, following me around hard corners and shit. Revenants and Arch-viles produced more insane laughs out of me than anything else in the game outside of some of the level design.

>>3994179
>not Highway 2 Hell Co-Op.gif

>>3994168
Also might as well toss in mogwai-gremlins too.

That Castlevania weapon mod is great and all but where's the music? Would've been great.

Am I doing things wrong or right? I can only run Demonsteele through other IWADs like Doom 2 in GZDoom (I don't have any other maps downloaded) and it doesn't come with own maps, like the ones in the trailer? There's a map wad in the .pk3 so I'm not sure if I'm doing it right or not since Demonsteele doesn't show up in the loader when I click and drag it into the exe.

>>3994202
>like the ones in the trailer?
each of those were different pwad mapsets
demonsteele does not come with its own native maps, you must load maps alongside it
each of the maps used are listed in the video description

>>3994202
>(I don't have any other maps downloaded)
You should rectify this, friend, there's a huge host of different mapsets out there.
IIRC DemonSteele's trailer was recorded on a lot of different mapsets.

>>3994202
use ZDL and download some other maps then

>>3994212
>>3994213

Well, I had mostly just been playing Heretic recently and the mod community for it is pretty dead. I just wanted to make sure because of that map wad, which, granted, did say test on it.

>>3994220

Yeah, the mapwad inside DemonSteele is just a test map for, well, testing things.

>>3994220
Have you tried Samsara with Corvus on Doom mapsets?

>>3994227

No, but will try that next, thanks. I wanted to beat all the classic games before trying any mods but Doom 2 pretty much broke me by Em10-ish. All the non stop killing is physically exhausting and I just feel too drained to carry on. Maybe using Corvus will spice it up a little.

>>3994213
Not him but what are some essential map wads?

>>3994246
Generally? Personally I'd say Scythe 1/2, BTSX, UAC Ultra, Going Down, all maps by "Didy"

Why do some tracks not play for a long time in certain mapsets, as in there's a couple minute delay before they start playing? Is there something in the options I have to change or is it just because of the removal of FMOD?

Hey Kinsie, I found a Blender plugin that lets you import Doom 3's md5 meshes and animations: You should be able to export them to SFM with other plugins: http://earthquake.fuzzylogicinc.com/?e=419

(reposted here in case you're not on Tumblr)

hey what's your favorite official design and alt art for the demons that you've com across

Sell me on Alien Vendetta. Why is it worth my time?

>>3993564

Please elaborate.

>>3994352
the cheeriest cybie

>>3994190
>Doom will never die, but you will

>>3994416
fuck man, I thought I would fight the double cyberdemon when I got that thing.... fucking lying covers

>>3994423
>double cyberdemon

>>3994430
look at the cover there, he has two rocket launchers!

>>3994431
>The Ultimate Dual Deal

>>3994398

Why are you asking us? It takes maybe three minutes to download and check it out.

>>3994416
I'd post that GEE BILL edit right now if I had it handy

Give me more great WADs that aren't on here, please. Campaign and spooky especially.

>>3994423

and then you woke up, right

>>3994202
You are in for a treat.

Hit up the Cacowads page and download everything ever listed there. The Cacowads are yearly awards celebrating the best the community has to offer

There are still some over looked 9/10 wads but the Cacowads will give you hundreds of hours of play.

>>3994398
The fact that it is a classic alone should be enough reason

>>3994441
Anything by skillsaw.

>>3994423
>>3994430
>>3994431
>>3994432

>>3991835
Found the autist janitor screeching about Strafe posts.

>>3993223
Neato. Are you planning on new sprites or anything like that?

>>3994423
there's a double cyberdemon in All Hell Breaks Loose fyi.
https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom2/a-c/allhell

>>3994441
^

>>3994494
>Found the autist janitor screeching about Strafe posts.
????
why are you so butthurt
strafe is not /vr/
it doesn't take a janitor to figure that out

>>3994515
sneeze on him and he might leave.

>>3992262
Soldier of Fortune with fanpatches to make it run on modern systems:

http://www.theisozone.com/downloads/pc/windows-games/soldier-of-fortune---community-edition-v61/

>>3993418
Yes please! It looks lovely.

It's still Saturday somewhere.

https://my.mixtape.moe/qcszry.webm

More useless polish, but it makes things feel better. Also it's something nobody else seems to be doing, so, you know, bonus.

GMOTA is fucking cool. What's the best map set(s) to compliment it?

>>3992697
>hurr durr let's put every monster available in every single room!!
Plutonia's monster placement is sublime. It's not built solely around running through a level with enemies that are just in the way, but actual encounters that require assessing the situation and executing a plan of attack. It looks overwhelming at first, but everything is solvable and (usually) fair.

>OH and let's enclosure the player so he can't move while the enemy shoots him
A lot of the encounters drop you into a place where you'll get wrecked immediately, and so you'll probably die the first time you come across them. It hearkens back to arcade and NES-era action games that are explicitly designed not to be beaten on your first try, demanding that you learn from what killed you and figure out how to overcome it next time. Again, everything is solvable, but if you aren't accustomed to trial-and-error in games, it may be hard to understand.

>lets also give sparse ammo XDDD that will entertain the player
You always have what you need, but not always when you want it. Not every encounter can be handled the moment you see it, and there are also times where you'll have a lot, but have to save it for later in the level. Exploit monster infighting and behavior, know exactly how much ammo is needed per monster, and don't forget to look for secrets. (GZDoom also tells me the amount of monsters and secrets left in a level, which I guess is cheating compared to vanilla.)

>And that Arch-vile maze man, it sucked. The navigation through the maze and the arch-viles is not even the bad part, those fucking doors that activate by passing through certain spots is what sucks.
The same spots always open the same doors. It's learnable.

If you don't like the feeling of getting outsmarted, figuring out what went wrong, and then trying again, I suppose Plutonia isn't for you. That said, I really don't like to say "git gud", but you sound like you don't know your Pro Doom Monster Strats.

>>3993418
Yes please

>>3992986
Release when?

Also Spiderman Doom when, since we have Bnatnam doom already

>>3993379
nope.

>>3994560
Brotherhood Of Ruin seems to work fairly well. At least it did on Icarusliv3s video on it.

>>3994582
Batman Doom is shit though.
>Batman using a flamethrower
Yeah, that's non lethal.

What does Doom Retro do, and who's the intended audience for it?

>>3994594
>Spiidermann swinging around the city with a Glock, AK-107 and mini-rocketlauncher, saving citisens of Manhattan from demonic onslaught

>>3994608
Being the sourceport nobody asked for

>>3994608
It's the author's hobby project, and it's core audience is Edward850 picking it apart for lols every update (why DOES it encrypt the config files, anyway?!?)

>>3994608
It's like Chocolate Doom(or PrBoom), but with a few minor aesthetic things slapped on top of it. Displaying automap on a separate screen is a really cool feature, but still kind of useless.
It's not bad, but it's nothing special either.

>>3994593
Yeah, works great. Thanks anon!

>>3994608
at first it was a fairly nauseating attempt to exploit the opportunity of the nostalgia wave around doom's 20th birthday to get donations

thankfully he seems to have mostly quit that shit now, in particular he doesn't have all the blurb on his site that accused all other ports of a lack of quality and attention to detail. but reputations are hard to shake and i still think of it as Brad Harding Presents: Brad Harding's DOOM RETRO(tm), A Brad "Brad Harding" Harding Production lol.

i guess now though it's become some sort of vanilla "tune up", chocolate doom polished/modernized to his tastes, and he's accumulated a small but loyal user base with similar preferences. they seem pretty self-contained, and just get on with it.

although there was one guy recently who spammed the BTSX E1 thread with false bug reports because DOOM RETRO was messing with animated flats that it shouldn't, but i've yet to see idiots going round calling things broken because they're not compatible with it.

Hey guys, what are some fun gameplay mods and mapsets that compliment them? I posted about GMOTA earlier and got a great mapset for it so figured I'd ask for more. Also enjoy Psychic and the Castlevania one, which works really well with Scythe 2. DemonSteele is all right but feels odd to play.

Also, any fantasy based TCs? Or should I just stick with Heretic?

How do I unfuck skybox in EDuke?

>>3994676
https://forums.duke4.net/topic/8940-3d-classic-skyboxes-pack/

>>3991729
Temple of the Lizard Men 4 released on idgames
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=49164&p=996529#p997009
https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom2/Ports/megawads/lmtmple4

>>3994673
Colourful Hell is something I've been enjoying recently. It makes the game a bit like Borderlands or an MMO where it randomly gives every enemy a colour that indicates rarity and strength.
You'll need more powerful guns for the nastier enemies, so try it with Combined Arms. It's a silly mod, but the weapons are satisfying and it has the best shotgun and alternative fire for a shotgun that I've seen in a Doom mod.

Let's try this again.

>>3994673
I'd recommend UAC Ultra as a mapset, it has some really cool ideas and sections.
Axiom is a great single map. It's all caves and organic looking woodland areas.
Doomcity is a really old single map from the early days but its a nice urban map and feels like something out of Duke 3D.

>>3994679
Neat! Thanks.

>>3994691

>>3994745
if there was ever a male equivalent to vagina dentata

>>3994745
that looks kewl
>>3994757
>can't stop seeing dicks everywhere

>>3994662
BTSX E1 supposed to be vanilla compatible.

if RetroDum has bugs with it, means it itself is not vanila compatible. It is also have no boom compatibilities, which makes it a port that does not have 100% compatibiity of anything at all.

>>3994681
This is the best news for the last 4 months, since all games I wated for and were released turned out to be trash

>>3994805
i clearly know all this already. why are you wasting both our time telling me things i know already?

>>3994768
can't change age restrictions man

>>3994608
>who's the intended audience for it?

Windows users.

>>3994542
>>3994582
>>3991731
Alright i decided to release the thing officially: https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=42&t=56444

>>3994441
Putrefier, from the same author of Valhalla: https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=42&t=34159

Waterlab GZD by Enjay: https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=42&t=55741
Also his Gene-Tech map: https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=46718

My UAC Vinur Prime Research Base: https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=42&t=49163

Also, in the top of the image, you are still linking Skulltag as a viable way to play Doom, i recommend switch that to Zandronum, as well update the osnanet.de site as Graf Zahl does not maintain that anymore, this is not kept at: https://gzdoom.drdteam.org/

What's the best gore mod that isn't brutal doom or project brutality?

I just want to blast enemies into clouds of pink mist and paint the walls red with blood while still playing the classic levels.

>>3994931

Brutal Doom is your only option.

>>3994931
smooth doom

>>3994962
Can I still play the original doom levels though?

>>3994970

Yes.

>>3994970
It's just a gameplay mod, of course you can.

>>3994962
A fixed Ketchup? Nashgore? Smooth Doom? Droplets?

>>3994975

Never heard of 'em.

>>3994009
ChaosDM for Q2 is awesome. My favorite version of Chaos.

What Doom wad is that? I kinda dig crossbows.

>>3994925
>https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=42&t=56444
Thank you very much!