/vr/ - Retro Games

I don't know why the name "Road Toad" makes me laugh

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c0SuIMUoShI
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TOFlsEBkPxs

There's one more, anon.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y7a6EK1aIFY

Also, Yuzo Koshiro entire existence.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VYUuCN3A0K0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1x8xnkxUNkM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bp68mGKtDDw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xTHX8UD6KDI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SpjnzxtZ6Qg

Also, Good Life (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJxJxr9RlKM)) seem to have influenced this one.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4imbtjey-aQ

>>3983612
Kojima is notorious for plagarism:
- Metal Gear's manual art
- MGS's main theme is a Russian classical song
- Snatcher is just Blade Runner
- More art stolen in later MGS games
- MGS V's promo art and entire story

Leaving this here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JxPj3GAYYZ0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KGSqMhTGx3k
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yt9dZ1w-R3s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a2kKOhDHxuM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rHZFJ2kfHko

>>3983807
>MGS's main theme is a Russian classical song

To be fair I think he didn't realize this when it was written. I remember that video when it was pointed out to him and he looked like he was about to break out into tears. The blame rests on whoever the composer for MGS was.

But yeah, Kojima does "borrow" a lot of stuff from movies. Or as he would say, it's an "homage".

>>3983807
>- MGS's main theme is a Russian classical song

He was totally unaware of that. That's entirely on TAPPY who made the theme.

>>3984154

The Konami Computer Entertainment (KCE) Sound Team Japan made the score. They consist of Takanari Ishiyama, Gigi Meroni, Kazuki Muraoka, Lee Jeon Myung and Hiroyuki Togo. TAPPY made the theme.

>>3983797
"Road Toad" sounds like a slang term for something horrible, like a really ugly truckstop prostitute, or doing a hit and run on a gay person or something

borrowing little riffs and melodies is prevalent in music everywhere you look. I don't know if I would really call it plagiarism. At least not every single time, there are clear moments where they rely very heavily upon the "influence" to the point of straight plagiarism but other times I think it was genuine inspiration and not a nefarious act of music theft.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PD1zZSddOFk

>>3984154
>But yeah, Kojima does "borrow" a lot of stuff from movies. Or as he would say, it's an "homage".
Being a great artist means being able to hide your theft well.

>>3983807
If they were plagiarism Konami wouldn't be able to sell them or the original copyright owners would demand compensation and credit.

And don't think they would just "let it side", if they think they could make even a cent out of suing they'd do it. Just look at stuff like Harlan Ellison getting credited on Terminator for a story that has no relation other than time traveling

>>3984281
Perhaps for liking overrated artists.

even pp hammer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gBsuzx4SsUg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XrxGedtTNnY

>>3983797
>Also, Yuzo Koshiro entire existence.
lol evertiem, it's only SoR, all his other stuff was himself.

Rareware loved borrowing sounds and songs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PjaSZmrGcSc

>>3984384
Reminds me of this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZANKFxrcKU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FWhKyk-4j6I

If you thought Koshiro was bad
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x0y5B7AMP1g
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z5fE30TL-oA

>>3984450
shit forgot these too
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nc-3_CW1BC8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kEGuHdKn0Lc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=efMSn1dXFwQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qjxLM_7ElLs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OikIgkPX2Uk

>>3984338
For liking anyone. Do you think "creativity" exists in a vacuum?

>>3984327
The work of Harlan Ellison was acknowledged. He's a fucking shit. Muh Jewels of Sound. Even his own work was too shit to ever be used. Roddenberry wouldn't allow such nonsense.

>>3984281
go back to /ded/, Steve

>>3983797

The Yuzo stuff only has the chords for like 5 seconds and everything else is original. And the chords sound really different anyway.

>>3984489
Move Any Mountain and Under Logic are literally the same music.

>>3984384
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FBSG6O5cfKY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZANKFxrcKU

>>3984380
This >>3984262 is by Koshiro too. I'm sure there's more, but SOR are the most known.

This game.

>>3984614
Debatable, since Koshiro was a part of Falcolm's soundteam, besides if that OR SoR really is plagiarism than they should have been sued, just as with most things posted in this thread.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_f8UFv_Ytc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f5-dPYrXFHY

dude got fired over this and another song.

>>3985767
Koshiro wasn't sued because the original composers don't know of his plagiarizing. Most people don't know he is a hack like Yamamoto, so Koshiro's still regarded as a real composer.

>>3984327
>no relation other than time traveling
It was proven in court that the opening sequence was a total ripoff of his work.

I swear I heard the title screen music to Desert Strike in another game but I can't remember which one.

Also that Freeze-Easy Peak in Banjo Kazooie reminds me of the score to some old western film. I thought it was Once Upon A Time In America but I googled that and it doesn't even look like a western.

Help?

>>3986923
>score to some old western film
Okay I discovered it was called The Big Country because I remembered an Atomic Kitten song sampled it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AQTH3a0mjR8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YJp6SvYkgDs

A fun one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=POCUgBSVENQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-A_f7FV4ss

>>3983612

>>3987092
This is a common scene on anime and manga.

>>3987242
Even outside of anime and manga I'd say it's common enough that I doubt ff7 ripped it off.

>>3987242
It's common to have the exact same outfit and color as cloud strife?

>>3983807
I remember a while back when I was watching a bunch of 80s anime, I noticed that kojima must've been watching a lot of 80s anime too because there were scenes that were way too similar

>>3983807
>Snatcher is just Blade Runner

You either never played Snatcher or never saw Blade Runner. While it was influenced by it Snatcher has way more in common with Invasion of the Body Snatchers than it does with Blade Runner. The only thing it really directly lifted was Roy Batty's look, a character who hunts robots, and a cool sounding name for the special force he's in.

>>3985568
Whoa! That's so damn cool.

>>3984242
This is something nerds will never understand. A blatant melody is a quote/homage etc.

Actual plagiarism is say, One Winged Angel, which ripped off Rite of Spring but tried to hide it

>>3984479
Can is fucking great

>>3986923
>I swear I heard the title screen music to Desert Strike in another game but I can't remember which one.

Nobody can help with this one?

>>3987790
Yep. Shoulderpads were common in old anime.

>>3983612

The game
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AOU3Vjcq6aA

The source
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-3U7FyKdBS4

>>3989027
yes, the shoulderpads are the only thing similar to his design...

dude just give up, you fucking shill

Not plagarism but just found out about this 2 days ago
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nueqyTUxbC0&list=PL2C7DABB75DFC838B&index=6
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVsjLPF5JaY

>>3983797
The feeling of having radio music on a Genesis game is what impressed Everyone. Still a landmark in videogame music history.

>>3989480
Is that plagiarism though? Or had Betty Boo given permission for them to use it? I mean Bomb The Bass did the music for Xenon II.

>>3984607
>>3984424
>implying the allusion wasn't intentional

>>3990316
Yes, I even sang those words along to the BK overworld tune as I was playing, fully aware it was a deliberate nod to it.

Also, there's that tune in Yoshi's Island that has a slight whiff of The Sun Has Got His Hat On to it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wlcyq18dA8I