/vr/ - Retro Games

Outrun might be the comfiest came ever.

>>3980009
This ^

Test drive 6 is good

>>3980009
outrun is hard. hard=not comfy

all those Genesis racing games are hard as fuck. Virtua Racing (32x), Super Monaco GP, Super Hang-On, they stress me out and make me feel like quitting videya.

>>3980018
Then try outrun 2006. It's relatively retro at least.

>>3980024
>2006
not retro enough for me sempai

>>3980052
Well technically it came out in 2003.

>>3980058
ps2 Era is not retro according to the rules senpai?

>>3980064
I don't give a fuck my dude, if someone is looking for comfy car games I'm gonna recommend outrun 2006.

>>3980072
fair enough

>>3980005

San Francisco Rush
Rush 2
Road Rash 64
Trickstyle
Hydro Thunder

>>3980085
Rush (all versions) had fucky controls, even for an arcade racer
Road Rash 64 is probably the best Road Rash game ever though.

>>3980101

if you increase the car damage and turn on death race in Rush 2 it becomes road rash with cars

>>3980123
yeah but the car still handles like shit so you crash and die

ease of handling is essential for a comfy racing game.

NFS2 SE and NFS3 for me

>>3980127
RR64 yes guys are trying to kill you with bats and crowbar and tasers and shit but at least your motorcycle handles well. when you're turning really sharp, there's a forgiveness period when you can tell the bike is about to lose grip. in Rush, if you didn't take the turn/jump right, you're hitting the wall.

>>3980143
or letting go of the throttle and losing the race/running out of time.

all those checkpoint racers require you to be full throttle the whole race and take the turns just right, or game over. braking isn't even really a thing.

Specifically the Micro Mouse Mappy storyline.

>>3980324
Not OP but I'm getting really fucking sick of it. I would enjoy this game a lot more if I didn't have to constantly lose in 3rd or 2nd place, rearing the AI for 75% of the race...

>>3980335

Get better at taking corners.

>>3980339
lol I don't think you understand what I'm trying to say. In order to complete RRT4, you have to intentionally lose A LOT. That means either letting off the gas or intentionally ride into the AI's asses to push them through the finish line.

>>3980346
I agree i have no idea what they were thinking with that shit desu, it's horrible to do. I prefer rage racer.

>>3980359
Rage Racer has its own hurdles that drive me nuts too. I don't know how to disengage drifts without it stalling to like 20km/h for no reason at all even though my drift was clean. MT-only cars was a stupid idea too.

>>3980346
Thats my only gripe with it. It is almost a perfect game with the combination of great controls, visual style and music. But its so stupid that you have to lose races to unlock all the cars. Also it would be cool if it was possible for it to have more tracks.

>>3980005
This is the feeling I was looking for but had to go back to GT1 rather than 2. The GT2 AI is constantly trying to crash you/each other and making no attempt to take something resembling a racing line. The only way to really circumvent that is having an overpowered car to stay ahead of them, and even then it's hard to stay interested because the cup series allow you to switch cars between each race. That's what made GT1 so "comfy" for me - you'd get the feel you were racing against actual opponents, maybe even some rival car that you knew you had to get aggressive with to keep him out of the standings.

>>3980364
For years I had this same gripe about Rage but all of a sudden it just clicked for me. Only took like... 17 years but I can finally manage clean drifts. It's tough, but that tension makes the game pretty damn exciting.

>>3980420
I thought I was stalling on exits because my throttle was too harsh so I started feathering it on and off, it didn't help. It took me my whole life to figure out RR1 and RR Revolution, but Rage Racer is like starting over from scratch. No one has any analysis on it either.

Rally Cross

>>3980005
Top Gear.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45xpqOPbFdQ

>>3980018
imo, Super Hang On is doable as long as you upgrade your bike in original mode and only G. Ceara is hard in Super Monaco GP.

Virtua Racing is indeed hard as fuck, both versions. I find Super Monaco GP II very challenging too.

>>3980364
You shouldn't be drifting in rage racer, it's slower and you don't need any MT cars do get anywhere. I've cleared it many times using the fastest AT, MT are essential if you are gunning for good times.

San Francisco Rush was a lot of fun.

>>3980005

Beetle Adventure Racing

>>3980430

Rally Cross 2 has a track builder.

You can also do "Suicide Races" where you drive the circuit one way and the three other cars drive the opposing way.

>>3980005

Gran Turismo 2 is so great. I was in high school when it came out and my friends and I used to bring our memory cards to each other's houses and race our cars against each other all the time.

I'm still sad that Tahiti Road never made it into any other GT games.

>>3980005
Most comfy racers for me are these were I can upgrade my car with earned money from races. Apart from Top Gear 2/3000, Indy Heat NES, Rock and Roll Racing, are there any honourable mentions?

(Maybe something from PS1? Please not Gran Turismo, getting licences is nightmare)

>>3980742
If you're retarded you can easily gameshark the licenses in so you don't have to do it for GT.

>>3980756
What do you mean by "retarded"? Are you trying to imply that mere human can get these licences? Jeez, these impossible time limits combined with worst car available..

>>3980772

The license tests exist to teach you how to drive a fucking car.

You might be able to cheese your way through earlier open races by just adding more horsepower but at some point you'll have to actually know some semblance of racing theory to stay competitive in later races.

The license tests teach you this and are the definition of a skill gate.

>>3980778
Does anyone else here use the right stick to accelerate/break? I find doing either smoothly with just the default button configuration impossible.

>>3980781

The face buttons on the PS1 are digital, meaning you either get 0% braking/acceleration or 100% braking/acceleration with no middle ground. The analog stick is the better method on a technical level (graduated application of acceleration and braking) but I think most people just use the X and Square buttons.

>>3980528
The Lotus trilogy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQSsq7HCNHw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CkEu-p4JZX0

>>3980781
>>3980791
>using analogue sticks full stop
GIT GUD

>>3980886
its impossible to control a high powered FR car without analogue control since it doesn't take very much to make the car spin out.

>>3980907
>without analogue control
>in reply to a post about NeGcon

...

>>3980886
NeGcon is a terrible gimmick controller.

>>3980910
I wouldn't know because I'm too cheap to buy one.

>>3980018
>outrun is hard. hard=not comfy
I'd say the same of Gran Turismo, personally.

F Zero X, Unirally.

>>3980910
You must be thinking of JogCon.

NeGcon is anything but.

>>3980910
>>3980921
I've never used one but always thought it looked ace.

>>3980923
It works incredibly well once you're acclimatised.

Far finer control than analogue sticks.

Midtown Madness

Road & Track presents: The Need For Speed

Need For Speed: Porsche Unleashed

>>3980005
R4

Re-Volt.

>>3980402
And a quick race mode
(And maybe proper car selection mechanism)

>>3980886
>Sony's Pops emulator will never support NeGcon

>>3981261
Why are these versions of NFS so dramatically different than the original 3DO version? I remember it was quite realistic, your acceleration wasn't a space rocket and the HUD clutter was very spacious. I would have all those things back if it meant sacrificing 640x480.

>>3980005
GT2 doesn't let me go like DRIFTING IN THE 90S like GT1.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DcqN1RfRQu4

>>3980916
There are so many ways to gain an insurmountable advantage on the AI in the first few GT games, that they're incredibly comfy outside the tests.

>>3981594
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNeIm8DYvgM

Also releventing.

>>3981607
SO realistic, omg.

>>3980127

never had a problem with it desu. also if i recall all the cars handled differently

>>3980005

GT2 was awesome because of all the muscle cars.

>>3980005
I loved GT and GT2, it had everything from shitty hatchbacks to high powered supercars.

When GT2 came out I'd just recently passed my driving test and had a crappy Corsa so it was fun to bomb around the circuits in a souped up in-game Corsa.

What's a good site to download these games for PC?
All i found are PS1 versions or old torrent with not enough seeders.

World Driver Championship
Need for Speed - High Stakes
Ridge Racer Series
Top Gear 2
Rock'n'Roll Racing

And if you are okay with something that doesn't have cars:
F-Zero ((G)X)
Wipeout Series
Wave Race 64

>>3980528
yesss. i beat this game as a kid with my dad.

>>3980528
I find Super Monaco GP totally impossible. I've done every route of Outrun and every level of Super Hang-On with practice but no matter what I can't even place in the qualifiers of Super Monaco GP and come last place in the first race every single time.

>>3981724

F-Zero games are too challenging to be comfy. Comfy racing games are something you just zone out while playing.

>>3980772
lmao you're doing it wrong

if you payed attention to what they teach you in the tests like you're supposed to, you can get at least all bronze easy. It's really not that hard.

getting all gold is hard though.

>>3980916
the only thing hard in GT 1 and 2 is getting all gold on all the license tests. if you use the right cars every race is easy.

I have played a comfy driving game on DC but I don't remember the name. It was on highway, felt good and was comfy.

>>3981927
pls describe more maybe we can figure out what it is

>>3981927
Tokyo Xtreme Racer

>>3980018
Any game with a track as maximally comfy as Magical Sound Shower is good in my book

>>3980018

Outrun is tricky but certainly beatable, but I've only beat the Turbografx port once so idk how the genny version is

The entire game is also only 5 minutes long

Just find the route that works for you best

https://youtu.be/2_zAxPqKa8Y

DAYEETONAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
LET'S GO AWAY
DAYEETONAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

comfiest music ever

>>3980005
Sega Rally is easily one of my favorite arcade racing series

>>3981583
>POPS sucks anyhow
GIT GUD

>>3981262
That game was amazing, I remember I was so happy when I unlocked the Moby Dick car

>>3980335
You'll hate me, but someone just recently completed this game 100% and recorded the whole thing: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL2TWG_qA_ZeRBrRomJ-xoCFU7zNI1Z3Hv

Total time was 53:39:58.59

>>3982362
I'm not mad that someone has done it (expected) and I'm definitely not mad that it takes 53 fucking hours to do it. I meant to do clear this game 1 GP per night as a bed side Vita game. The only thing that pisses me off is needing to push 2nd and 1st place through the finish line like a shopping cart. For a game that is 10/10 GOTYAY super comfy, it is the complete opposite of comfy that I'm expected to cheese it and actually lose the race. A lot of other games around that time did this thing where to get 100% completion you need to beat every combination of mode, track and ship like Wipeout 3 or I believe Ace Combat 3 as well. They take a fucking long time and it's bullshit padding by the developers but as long as I can play normally, I can deal with it.

>>3980009

whats the best port of outrun?

>>3982565
the 3DS M2 port

>>3980005
I really, really enjoy Ridge Racer Revolution, but it probably doesn't fit your bill.
Cruising through the Intermediate track with Over the Highway playing is amazing. I adore how drifts feel in it, but they're tricky when starting out. Graphics are a bit rough, though.

really wish I had a neGcon (would solve a lot of my cornering issues since feathering the d-pad is super imprecise) but I really don't feel like spending $50 on it entirely because I'm a cheap-ass (I have the money and could do it right now, but I won't)

site thinks I'm a bot for some reason

>>3980018
OutRun is not super-hard at all.
It's probably the easiest of Sega's arcade driving games to get a clear in.
Play the Genesis version, it's an okay port and it's fairly easy.
Don't crash more than once ever and you'll reach an ending almost every time (because OutRun's difficulty is like 90% the maddeningly painful traffic, I've had some absolute bullshit happen to me in the arcade version, the Genesis version can't and won't put as much shit on screen)

I'm still bothered at how hard Virtua Racing (I'm playing the 32X one) is. I've never been able to get anywhere with that game. It refuses to click with me, but I want to like it.

ADVENTUREEEEE RACING!

>>3982629

Metro Madness is comfy as fuck in that game

Kat's Run is comfy in easier difficulties and so so in the hard diff with the unlockable OP patrol car. Right until you get to the hidden last stage and the chick from the wanted poster sticks to your ass with some ungodly rubber banding.

>>3981261
This, NFS 2 and NFS 4 are really comfy. The latter has great career mode and good difficulty level. Both are great on PC or PSX.

>>3983986
NFS2 is opposite of comfy
it's hektik

NFS 3 and 4 are quite wild as well

NFS3 spent all its comfy points on the first track (Hometown) with the rain turned on. Then it gets stressful. But damn is that one comfy first track.

Any Sega Rally drivers here, who could give me a hint? How do I push my championship times below 3:23:xx? I have access to a real arcade cab, and somebody there keeps beating my times, and I'd like to know how.

>>3982565
Cannonball is a 1:1 true port of the game for PCs from a disassembly (still needs the arcade ROM set for data) with things like double resolution, 60fps support, track editing, widescreen (and all of that's enablable at will).
as for official ports, the 3DS one is fucking brilliant and basically the only other good port of the game up to that point is the Saturn one (DC version fucks with the car sprite and IIRC it's got mildly janky emulation, although I think it does draw at double resolution, so graphics scale a tad more smoothly)

>>3981898
>you just zone out while playing
But that's how you win.

>>3980910
watch about any speedrun of a PSX game that supports negcon. Almost always they're played with a negcon.

>>3982565
this desu

>>3984036
nah man, the real question is how the fuck do you git gud at sega touring car championship?
shit is so hard.

>>3984049
Cannonball is fucking great, but the 3DS port is the best way to play the game. It's amazing. I love how you can customize nearly everything, and the new features are lots of fun without betraying the spirit of the original. M2 are the masters of ports.

>>3982565
>>3984447
If not retro, /v/ will tell you Outrun 2006 C2C on PC because not only do they parrot opinions, but it's because of the sole fact that you can increase resolution. But aside from that the best version is actually the fixed up version exclusive in NTSC-J called Outrun 2 SP (yes, named after the older arcade cab) released in a very late 2007. The disc code is SLPM-66628 if you want to see for yourself.

>>3980910
>NeGcon is a terrible gimmick controller.
What a fucking stupid retard, every single wr time on ps1 racers that support it (some ps2 aswell) is done with a negcon and for good reason. Take wipeout for example it allows you to hold perfect lines whilst separately pitching the nose with the dpad, all the best times in ridge racers are done with it also and good luck holding lines aswell with a dpad. It's because you're a shit tier player that knows nothing about high level racer play that gives you that opinion, it's simply beyond you.

>GT1 works on POPS
>GT2 doesn't

GT1 is a patrician's choice tho desu anyway

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IM8lO16ZIi0

>>3984649
Do you happen to know if this has LAN play option? Or someone else who speaks nippon chinese?

>>3985509

>>3985521
Thanks!

>>3985532
So like I said Outrun 2 SP (the Japanese re-fix) improved on some stuff but there's only one thing they removed and that's PSP connectivity.

>>3985535
I have a shitty PS2 racing setup in an old twin Sega Toruing Car Championship cabinet, but you need original games to play over LAN, and this game is kinda pricey.

>>3985539
You could try doing it with PCSX2 instead, it has support for LAN and wheels.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5KaZMbvFcsI

>>3985539
Get yourself a memed up memory card and go nuts on the dvd burner game.
Better yet - replace the PS2s with PCs and your options broaden a lot.

>>3985539
softmod ps2, hook it up to your pc and run ISOs off the network

>>3985543
>>3985559
They are soft modded, but the LAN games don't want to run of backup discs or HDDs. I couldn't find a work around,yet.

The PS2 can detect backup or HDD games, or anything fishy, if you want to play on network, even on LAN.

>>3985535
What did they fix? Also doesn't C2C have more content?

>>3980005
Comfy as comfy can get.

>>3980005

Love the original Need for Speed for the Panasonic 3DO.

does /vr/ like Wipeout

Diddy Kong Racing FTW

>>3986116
Wtf so based
Psx best console ever

>>3986124
Wipeout 3 was comfy
https://youtu.be/V974MkN7v94

>>3980554
Came here to say this.

>>3985661
The fact they named it after the original arcade cabinet is purely vanity. You cannot translate "Coast 2 Coast" to Japanese. C2C was never released in Japan. Outrun 2 SP for PS2 in Japan has everything C2C has (it's the same game) except a number of things were fixed and PSP connectivity was retired.

Power Drift, a game where you neither race powerful cars nor drift. But it is comfy if you set the difficulty in the Saturn version to "easy" (it still isn't that easy).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eU4FuowTv6Q

>>3984456
How have I never heard of this? Just looked up a vid and it looks fucking awesome. Does the Saturn port support the 3d controller?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0tmFmp7Gw80

>>3980005
Mobil 1 British Rally Championship, more commonly known as Rally Championship 2000.

>>3986260
I had the arcade cabinet, and it is not a good game. The music is awesome though.

>>3983445
This is really my only complaint about Kat's Run. The last stage always murders me, every time.

>>3984439
Travelling around transporting apples while listening to some good music on a stylish truck. C'mon that's comfy as hell.
https://youtu.be/raK9XVbE8C8

>>3986464
What's not good about it?

>>3984456
STCC does not feel comfy at all and the cars are wild as fuck and very uppity.

Nice eurobeat though

What are the best Outrun games?

Other than the original, Cannonball, and the 3DS port which are all perfect. I'm talking about the sequels and home console ports that are all pretty different.

GT racing 97 is a nice one for DOS.

>>3987384
Very little known game, still fun but maybe too difficult on high difficulty.

Stunts at the other hand is too easy.

>>3986834
Well, I only had problems witht he controls. The cars are like hovercrafts. I could never get used to it.

>>3982362
>that fucking controller

>>3981989

Blueee Blueee Sky~


I have mi Sega Saturn since January, and the second game I got is Daytona USA. First impression is bad as shit, but when you have played three times...

Waaw.... I cant go out in the morning without my Daytona USA race. It became my game breakfast.

I like Daytona USA too.

>>3986356

No Mario Kart since 64 have anything like this.

No mention of Test Drive 4? Comfy as it gets!

>>3987707
i prefer the PC version

>>3983995
NFS3 and 4 are pretty damn cozy simply due to the environments being so much more realistic than NFS2's floating speedways.

Hometown will forever be the comfiest track.

Does anyone ever change their controls? I always map accelerate and brake to R2/L2

What does /vr/ think of this? I enjoy it but the handling hasn't aged well

>>3987726
i prefer the PC version

>>3984036
Love this game and the music
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1vcKFwTg8Go
especially the jap version with the 3d controller

>>3987726
twas ma first psn game hmm shiat

>>3987375
outrunners is great, not on megadrive though

>>3987616
ROring STAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>3984036
GAME OVER YEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09s-c2JVI40

>>3981780
90% of turns in SMGP are to be taken at full speed. You only need to break on hairpins. The atcual Monaco track is a piece of shit but by that time you're already so far ahead in the standings it won't matter. Canada is kinda shit too.

>>3988235
Also, ONLY drive on 7 gear manual.

Some SMGP racean. Minarae powaaa!

>>3981262

10 times this

whats the best playstation need for speed game

>always daytime in america
>always nightime in japan
:(
>that god-awful soundtrack that everyone likes ironically
:((((((((((((((((((((

Top comfy tho.

>>3988291
PS1? NFS1. Porsche Challenge had the best handling but 1 FUCKING CAR? gtfo

PS2? Underground 2. Probably the best NFS ever... but I do love this >>3981262

>>3987616
Try the Arcade version on a Model 2 Emulator, it's just so amazing, I played the Sega Saturn version too but it will never be as good as the original one.

>>3980018
Virtua Racing is not that hard, what are you getting at?

>>3987831

Yeah, it's one of my favourites in the series but the Mega Drive doesn't even come CLOSE to doing it justice. SEGA should have waited and done a Saturn port.

>>3987723
I used to do this until I realized my brain wiring cannot execute "brake with L2 while steering with LS" well. Back to basics with me using square to brake.

>>3988293
Having like 3 different roof options was cool

>>3988291
PS1 - Either III or High Stakes
PS2 - Hot Pursuit 2
Ignore >>3988298

ps2 enthusia comfy

>>3980072
Lol, I read that like it was straight from a dialogue in a Quentin Tarantino movie.

>>3980005
Atari 2600
- Enduro
- Slot Racers

Arcades
- OutRun
- Pole Position
- Hang-On
- Power Drift
- Daytona USA
- Virtua Racing

NES
- Rad Racer
- Mach Rider
- Excitebike
- R.C. Pro-Am
- R.C. Pro-Am II

Master System
- Alex Kidd BMX Trial

SNES
- Super Mario Kart
- F-Zero
- Top Gear
- Stunt Race FX

Game Boy
- Wave Race
- F-1 Race

Mega Drive/Genesis
- Road Rash
- Road Rash II
- Super Monaco GP
- F1

PC Engine/TurboGrafx-16
- Final Lap Twin

Computers
- Wacky Wheels
- Lego Racers
- Stunt Car Racer
- IndyCar Racing

3DO
- The Need for Speed
- Road Rash
- Crash 'n Burn

Saturn
- Sega Rally Championship
- Daytona USA
- Sonic R

PlayStation
- Ridge Racer
- Need for Speed III
- Test Drive 5
- Wipeout 2097
- Formula 1 97
- Gran Turismo 2
- Twisted Metal 4 (underrated stupid easy car combat that always made me chill out)
- Jet Moto 3
- NASCAR Rumble
- NASCAR Thunder 2003 (also for PS2)
- V-Rally 2

Nintendo 64
- Mario Kart 64
- Diddy Kong Racing
- Beetle Adventure Racing
- Wave Race 64
- Star Wars Episode I: Racer
- Snowboard Kids
- F-Zero X
- Extreme-G
- 1080° Snowboarding

Dreamcast
- Metropolis Street Racer
- Hydro Thunder
- Sega GT
- Sega Rally 2
- 18 Wheeler: American Pro Trucker

>>3988972
>F-Zero X
>comfy

Hover Racing on PS1 is my go-to comfy racing game. It's tough to get into at first but once you master the control's its incredibly satisfying to play.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=upKkMGGm8yU

It's a Net Yaroze game so it was developed by an independent Japanese developer and never saw a commercial release. However, the game did get released as a "demo" on Playstation Underground volume 2.2 (even though it's called a demo the full game is in there).

>>3989023
F-Zero X is not that extremely hard. It's no F-Zero GX.