/vr/ - Retro Games

I don't know, I like that N64 games don't have loading times.

>>3962779
didnt want to end up like sega

>>3962779
>It could've been amazing

No, it's a piece of shit nintendshit proprietary ZIP disk, literally the worst possible media format you could ever implement in to a children's toy

>>3962845
>tfw I thought 100mb zip disk was amazing when i was a kid

then i found out NOBODY else had a zip drive, and kept using floppyies until flash drives came along

Could'ev amazing for N64 graphic with zipdrive
but eveything end because Dreemcast come.

Dumb gimmick system, but showed that even Nintendo games would be better developed directly for PC.

>>3962779
Nintendo should have focused on getting the N64 a CD drive to begin with instead of fucking about with the Virtual Boy

>>3962867
>Dumb gimmick system
>Anything I don't like is a gimmick

Being able to make your own tracks for F-Zero and save them is pretty cool, or there was the Mario Artist series, which let you do everything from making music, to painting, to even creating 3d models and small games.

It could also be used to load expansions for games, like Ura Zelda.

Did it have drawbacks? Yes, it probably would have been a expensive, but overall it had potential to be a pretty cool add-on.

I'm convinced that Nintendo fucking hates money. If they released Ura Zelda and the sequel to Super Mario 64 on the virtual console, literally everybody would pay to download them. Just to experience them.

>>3962874
Exactly. Imagine if they had made a decent CD drive for the N64 instead of this POS. They would have made a fortune if the drive came bundled with a game like Final Fantasy 7.

>>3962874
The whole point of the 64DD was that it could save data.
That doesn't work with CDs.

CD-RW wouldn't be suitable for that either, since they can only be re-written a limited number of times, and require more sensitive optics.

>>3962887
Memory cards, friend. The N64 had one! Not being able to have games like Metal Gear: Solid and Final Fantasy 7 wrecked the N64. They would have beaten Sony (at least in that generation) if they made a good external CD drive for the N64.

My guess is that somebody who worked on the Famicom Disk System was still floating the same kind of ideas and after the Sony thing and Nintendo developing an irrational hatred of the CD ROM format, suddenly a new FDS didn't seem so dumb until they actually did some developing and marketing on it and realized that yeah it actually was dumb.

>>3962904
The memory card stores a whole whopping 32KB.
Thats nowhere near enough space to store things like custom F-Zero tracks.
Mario Kart fills an entire controller pack just for timetrial ghosts.
The 64DD had a much larger capacity and would be better suited for these large saves and/or user made content.

>>3962779
Because it sold like absolute dogshit.

It would have been like the SEGA CD.

>>3962779
>It could've been amazing.

wanna know how I know you're a dumb hipster?

>>3962946
How do you know, Mr Clairvoyance.

>>3962779
>It could've been amazing.
...

>>3962936
An underrated system filled with hidden gems?

>>3962779
>Why did Nintendo give up on it?
Because it was shit
>It could've been amazing.
No it couldn't.
>b-b-but the youtube video said so
lel

>>3962858
>tfw I still have zip disks.
>tfw I have a device that lets me use them on an N64

>>3962884
They did make a CD drive for the N64. Unfortunately they was not Nintendo. Still nice stuff though

>>3962960
yeah man, I hear being underrated and having your good games being unknown is great for business

Why didn't they give up on it? It was released barely ahead of the PS2 with its DVD drive.
Releasing it and the eight games took res resources that could have been better elsewhere.

>>3962779
Because they give up on everything. If they could've dropped the n64 they probably would've too.

>>3962779
Because by the time it came out in Japan there were already 64MB carts, thus negating its biggest selling point.

I just wanna play Earthbound 64 the way it was intended: day/night clock system, the original script, and a 3D world.

>>3962779
>Is called "disk drive"
>Doesn't actually use CDs

>>3963717
>Doesn't know the difference between disks and discs

>>3963717
Hard disk
Floppy disk
Zip disk
Laser Disc
Digital Versatile Disc
Mini Disc
Blu-ray Disc

There's a lot of disk/disc drives aside from compact discs. Disc shape is used for obvious reasons.

I own a jap n64 and a dd just for the fzero map editor. it is pretty neat hardware and software considering the time.

you could use zip disks with an n64 using z64 or v64 copiers to transfer/play roms of gaes.


I believe the reason nintendo avoided using CD-ROMs is the same reason microsoft tried to push HD DVD vs bluray, to not have to pay royalties on each disc to their shared competitor, sony.

>>3963717
only poste doge for when u maek good poste k?

Can an American N64 work with the DD?

>>3963717
>called disk
>uses disk instead of disc
I don't see a problem here. Aside from someone being retarded.

>>3963995
What's the difference anyway? You mostly see disk used for magnetic and disc for optical media but the DD is magneto-optical.

>>3962878

The 64DD flopped because it was an overpriced gimmick. Doshin 64 was the only actual game, the Fzero editor is cool but pointless, and Mario Artist honestly who cares about. 64DD showed Nintendo leave their games fairly modular which is great for modding, but Nintendo are too into their closed ecosystem.

>>3963843

No.

Also DDs don't work anymore because they required online connectivity to setup, so dont waste your time. Even when the servers were up it was hard for importers to use because it required a Japanese credit card to do anything with.

>>3964096
There was also SimCity 64 and maybe something else.
Also, Mario Artist has some dope music.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mEVZqmgIsvo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=of6d8bS-CoQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mzM_G80xL0c
Never played any of them but I think they're interesting, basically Mario Paint with lots of more features and 3D stuff, I'd fuck around with it for a while.

>>3964103
Seriously? That's the first I've heard of that.

>>3964073
Disck then.

>>3964148

There would be more of these floating around the used market otherwise.

>>3964103
>Also DDs don't work anymore because they required online connectivity to setup,
That really sucks

>Hyped early on
>Came out way too late, when most people who gave up on the N64 were already long gone
>Used Zip disk, which didn't really hold too much compared to CDs, also barely anyone used them
>Dreamcast was already out
>Mail order only
>Only about a handful of games on the thing, most of them are Mario Art stuff and weird niche stuff
>All the actually interesting library got canceled
>It was a console addon that came out after it was clear that they're not as demanded as well, shown by the Mega Drive addons

>>3964103
Stop talking bullshit. You can play DD fine.
The only thing which doesn't justify getting any DD in physical form is the price.

>>3962882
>tfw Nintendo could've released the uncut version of Super Turrican on the Wii VC, but declined

>>3962918
A better solution would have been to implement 1MB of SRAM (same capacity as PS1 MC) in the CD add-on, and sell higher capacity (like, say, 4MB) flash memory cards that plug into the cart slot for backing up CD memory.

You know, like the Saturn did.

>>3964103
>Also DDs don't work anymore because they required online connectivity to setup, so dont waste your time. Even when the servers were up it was hard for importers to use because it required a Japanese credit card to do anything with.

not true at all bro

i found and bought an jap n64 with a DD and f-zero as a bundle and it all works flawlessly. i can make and save and load my custom tracks.


what went 'down' was randnet, an online service nintendo sold/bundles subscriptions to with the DD. randnet required the 64dd modem(which I do not have or need because its useless now). the randnet subscription gave you access to an internet browser, some forums, and some pre-Mii custom avatar features.

the only GAME to really use randnet was mario artist game, but just for sharing creations, I believe you can still play the game just fine by itself, but I do not have a copy.

there were future plans to use the modem for more games but the 64dd was discontinued before any of them ever saw the light of day.


i am sure if there were more DDs out there hackers would be able to get the randnet modem and browser running again like people have with sega dreamcast's web browser and modem.

>>3963717
It's "Dynamic Drive" dumbass.