/vr/ - Retro Games

>>3917083
>Asking about the PS2 first, before the GBA.

Check the archive, we did this like two weeks ago. It won't go anywhere and will become the shitpost general.

>>3917083
Not in 100 years fuccboi.

>Board discussion thread
>"oh boy, I can talk about how much I love /vr/ now"
>WHEN CAN WE BE NOT RETRO?
Ah...

>>3917083
>6th gen on /vr/
Eh, may as well at this point. The fucking /v/ermin have long since nestled in and won't leave anytime soon, not like this board is going to improve even if they kept 6th gen shit out for another year or two.

Delete /pol/

>>3917083
I vote for any game 15 years or older being allowed.

>keeps every game talked about old
>allows for regular new content to be discussed
>removes the question of "when will we allow X"

Screw the whole console thing, it's a poor way to set up the board. Pier Solar and Cave Story Genesis don't fit here as well in my opinion.

>>3917114
I think you don't understand the reason for making a containment board. Deleting /pol/ just floods the rest of 4chan with them. There they're kept in their semi-reddit style board where they can all circle jerk with trolls till they're blue in the face where they belong.

Never.
Fuck off.

never ever. it may be old but it will never be "retro" in the same way pre 6th gen stuff is.

>there are 5 already finished game generations considered retro
>there are 3 (2 considered finished) non retro generations
>LET'S INCLUDE MORE GENERATIONS TO DISCUSS RIGHT NOW, YOU SEE /vr/ IS DEAD

this is so pointless all this bullshit would solved if they rewrite the sticky and put in big red letters "Only discuss until 5th gen consoles" and arcades until 1999 - no exceptions

>>3917116
The thing is, games haven't progressed nearly as much in the past 15 years as they did in the 15 years before that. A 2002 PS2 game is still very similar to a 2017 PS4 game, except for the graphics improving. On the other hand, games from 1987 are almost a completely different thing.

>>3917116
Pier Solar belongs here way, way, WAY more than PS2. You're unbelievably wrong. In fact, repent. Buy a cat-o-nine-tails and get cracking. It's actually a 16-bit game that runs on the Sega Genesis, which, you know, is fucking /vr/.

>>3917120
They don't stay inside their containment board and they just keep growing like cancer

>>3917116
This. Having NBA2K be fine for discussion just because it came out on Dreamcast when we can't talk about Castlevania Circle of the Moon which was released earlier is idiotic.

I fucking hate /v/.

>>3917134
Doesn't mean that getting rid of the thing trying to contain them will help though. It's not perfect, but it's what we're stuck with.

>>3917130
>e thing is, games haven't progressed nearly as much in the past 15 years as they did in the 15 years before that.

That's highly debatable.

> A 2002 PS2 game is still very similar to a 2017 PS4 game, except for the graphics improving.

Also highly debatable, but really a discussion for /v/.

>>3917116
I honestly like this concept because the board would seem fresh constantly with "new releases" appearing on their anniversary date. The down side is that some current content would become verboten but by 2002 even Playstation and Dreamcast releases were petering out. The retro police would have to stay on their toes about release dates and only homebrew and fan games would lose out. New translations would be okay still and they're probably the most valuable romhacks anyway.

>>3917131
Then we disagree completely. I think early GBA games belong here far, far more. Yes it runs on old hardware, but it's a new game.

Are you going to say the same for Cave Story? Not appropriate here for most of it's existence, but once it gets a port to an old system it is? I'm sorry, I think that's just stupid. This board should be for old games. Period.

>>3917134
>muh /pol/ boogeyman

>>3917141
>I honestly like this concept because the board would seem fresh constantly with "new releases" appearing on their anniversary date.

This is kind of what I was thinking. For for example next month Tactics Ogre Knight of Lodis would turn 15 and it would be a nice reason to start up a discussion. Maybe get some people into it.

It keeps things both fresh and old at the same time, which is what I think this place should strive for.

>>3917147
There's a reason there's a containment board for them and that that board is set up different from the rest of 4chan. Moot hated /poltards.

>>3917145
>once it gets a port to an old system
Porting to old hardware is not easy. And the limitations of that hardware ensures that the Genesis port of Cave Story, or any such game, is way more colloquially "retro" than an ever expanding /vr/ audience of Halo babies and inevitably Duderaider fags. No thank you. Never ever.

>>3917083
>Hiro
not retro

>>3917152
I'm sure moot would have said the same thing.

>>3917141
>I honestly like this concept because the board would seem fresh constantly
I don't think you get the point of this board. Just go to /v/eddit and don't look back, please.

>>3917091
This. It always happens and nothing ever changes. These threads have been appearing ever since they started allowing Dreamcast threads.

>>3917083
Not retro

>>3917151
>Porting to old hardware is not easy.
I didn't mean to imply it was.

>And the limitations of that hardware ensures that the Genesis port of Cave Story, or any such game, is way more colloquially "retro"

That still doesn't make it an old game.

> than an ever expanding /vr/ audience of Halo babies and inevitably Duderaider fags. No thank you. Never ever.

I see, you want this place to just be a hugbox of ohh how terrible kids are. It's your ilk giving us other older posters around here a bad name. I honestly think you're pathetic and welcome talking to more Halo kids than having to hear more of your bitter bitching.

>>3917154
But you want the latest 2017 Genesis belt scroller to have endless threads because SO RETRO IT'S ON OLD HARWARE!!!! lol.

>>3917083
We should have a board for 7th gen gaming, or rather 00s gaming that would include PS2/PS3/GBA/DS/GCN/Wii/Xbox/360.

Because /v/ is too young to know of those, and /vr/ does not want to discuss those.

>>3917150
Only for a brief period in winter 2014-2015 after he got that girlfriend and before he polished this turd up enough to make it salable

>>3917159
Have you not read the sticky. Platforms, my man, not games. This place is about old platforms.

>6th gen consoles
Just wait, there will be a Melee general that will be more popular than the Doom one.

>>3917120
>where they can all circle jerk with trolls till they're blue in the face

I think you mean red in the face.

>>3917161
He has complex views like most people, but I actually knew Moot ever so slightly, I've heard him rant about the Stormfront debacle that's the root of all this. He was generally very against them.

So smart for selling this place when he did though.

>>3917120
>>3917164
If they're circle jerking, wouldn't they be white in the face?

>>3917162
>This board is for the discussion of classic, or "retro" games.

Maybe we read different stickies?

/v2k/. All 6th (including Dreamcast) and 7th gen discussion. Maybe even allow some 5th gen crossover. "It's too niche" or "the are already enough boards" are hardly valid arguments when boards like /po/ and /i/ exist.

>>3917154
Do tell me what the point of this board is. Is it to become a sargasso where the only shit that isn't stagnant is trash that washes in from other boards?

>>3917168
Yeah but the cutoffs aren't based on games, they're based on platforms. We can discuss any game for the Sega Genesis, whether it came out in the 1990s, or the 2090s.

>>3917169
That's the worst idea.

>>3917172
It's the only idea that won't lead to this being "the board for anything that isn't current gen".

>>3917169
>split /v/ into more boards
Please no
>"It's too niche" or "the are already enough boards" are hardly valid arguments when boards like /po/ and /i/ exist.
Both made over 10 years ago, and the former being infamous for barely being used

GTFO of /vr/

If you don't want to talk about RETRO games then why the fuck are you here?

If 6th gen is allowed then this boards demographic will slowly change and after 2-3 years will be completely unrecognizable. 70's/80s/90s posts will become rarer and rarer and will be buried by a avalanche of devil may cry/metal gear/pikmin/Halo/Resident evil 4/Melee etc etc etc.

I do like the 6th gen and I wish there was a place away from /v/ to discuss it but it can't be here! This board is unique and should stay that way.

>>3917172

except it's not

>/vr/ keeps talking about old hardware
>/v/ keeps shitposting about numbers and specs for current gen consoles
>don't give a fuck about /v2k/ will do, it's up to them

>>3917171
Yeah, which I'm saying is a bad way to set it up because it lets in games that aren't necessarily retro or classic. That's not enough.

If someone ports Undertale to SNES that doesn't suddenly make it a classic retro game. It's still very clearly a product of it's era.

You could make Peggle run on a Genesis if you really tried. It wouldn't make it an old game or even an old style game. Going by platform is just plain silly.

>>3917173
>>3917173
Making it a board for ogames that are at least 15 years old would.

>>3917174
>split /v/ into more boards
This is absolutely not a problem at all when /v/ is such a fucking monstrosity of a board as it is.

>>3917174
>Both made over 10 years ago, and the former being infamous for barely being used
That's exactly the fucking point. They've been around for ages and still have less than 600,000 posts. Yet they still exist. And they have no chance of being deleted.

If you want a more recent barely-used board, see /3/.

Fuck no
PS2 is and never will be retro
The cutoff point is 2000 and that's it

>>3917120
That's not how it works. "Containment boards" provide a convenient place for interested parties to congregate and coordinate themselves, which means people of similar interests will be drawn to them and then spread their shit to the rest of the boards. Board splits make sense when another board has so much discussion of a particular topic that it makes sense to break them off so they aren't hurting other discussion, but if you're trying to contain some assholes, /trash/ works better.

allowing /vr/ to discuss PS2/GC/XBOX will destroy the board just like allowing WWE in /asp/ destroyed said board. Prepare for a 80/20 ratio (most optimistic) of threads talking about newer stuff

>>3917179
Now you're gonna make me email Popcap with an offer they can't refuse, and I'm gonna have suck an office full of business casual cock just so I can shitpost with Peggle threads to piss you off.

>>3917180
The problem with that is, in 3 years we would start seeing Xbox 360 games on this board. Xbox 360 is absolutely not a retro console. Other than being underpowered compared to 8th gen systems, it is entirely a modern gaming platform.

>>3917191
>The problem with that is, in 3 years we would start seeing Xbox 360 games on this board.

That's the thing, I don't see that as a problem. It's no more an 8th gen console than NES is a 16 bit console.

>>3917190
Jokes on you, I think Peggle is fantastic. It's just not retro.

>>3917196
It's not an 8th gen console, but it isn't a retro console. It is firmly planted in the realm of modern gaming. And that would destroy this board.

>>3917207
The same could easily be said about the Dreamcast. Personally I think the history of gaming is far too complex to just lump everything into either retro or modern. It's been decades of continual small changes that build up over time.

To me anything 15 years old could be considered to be dated enough to work for a board dedicated to older games. I would be just as happy with 20 years but that would remove a lot of what's already allowed here and I think 15 is enough.

>>3917083
Never, 6th genner.
>>>/v/

>>3917083

I'm sick of having to switch between /v/ and /vr/ so I can't talk about 5th and 6th gen games.

The largest percentage of games I play are 5th and 6th gen with a bit of 7th here and there and I would really like it to just main /vr/ since /v/ is full of fucking faggots. I want PS2/Xbox/GC/Early 2000's PC games to be discussable here.

>>3917219

>I'm sick of having 2 tabs open in my browser

>>3917083
There needs to be a /v2k/ board. Otherwise /vr/ will become /v/.

>>3917083
Once the 9th gen is fully underway (when PS5 releases) there'll be no excuse not to allow 6th gen on here.

>>3917219
Y'know, /vr/'s quality will definitely drop once 6th gen is allowed.

Mellee generals would be allowed, Halo would be considered retro, a lot of literal underage /v/ermin will be migrating here since the consoles THEY grew up with would be allowed.

Allowing 6th gen might make things "convenient" for you, but it will also take away the quality of the board you've come to love.

>>3917253

so could you guys stop posting here until there?

>>3917254
>Y'know, /vr/'s quality will definitely drop once 6th gen is allowed.

Yeah we'd hate to miss out on more Castlevania shitposting threads. Considering the number of 30 somethings here who act like 5 year olds already it's hard to imagine the state of things possibly getting worse.

>>3917258
You don't have to imagine, just go look at /v/.

Whatever you see on /vr/ that looks bad, just remember, /v/ is one hundred times worse.

>>3917258
This. I take more halo kids over OHH MY GOD MODERN GAMES ARE KEK CANCER all the time.

>>3917259
>You don't have to imagine, just go look at /v/.
I'm a regular poster on most 4chan boards. /v/ is legitimately more friendly than /vr/ most of the time. The fact that some of our worst shitposters here are fellow older gamers disgusts me.

>>3917254

Even someone who was 6 years old when 6th gen ended would be turning 18 this year and thus not being underaged. And someone who was 6 in 2005 wouldn't have that much nostalgia for the 6th gen since they'd mainly grown up with 7th gen.

Personally 20 year old games only or fuck off

>>3917083
The PS2 is not retro. What would be the difference between that and /v/ at that point?

>>3917262
If by "at times" you mean 0.1% of the time. You're not fooling anyone. I've stopped browsing /v/ a few years back and I pop in every now and then... It's the same bullshit still being posted just revised for newer games. /v/ is legit one of the worse boards on 4chan, and I will not stand for you defending it and thinking it's anything but a steamy dog shit. I was just like you, defending /v/ and considering it my homeboard, until I realized it was not worth it and decided to just stop browsing it. It was the best decision I've ever made in my life, because I was just all-around happier. I didn't have to tolerate anymore newfag nonsense, bait threads, and shit taste. It was all behind me. Sure I couldn't talk about my favorite games but I could predict exactly what type of responses my thread would get anyway

>"what game is this"
>off-topic shitpost
>LOL

I don't think it's worth anyone's time, not even yours, to browse or even care about /v/. If you're wondering what /v/'s talking about, it's probably the same thing as yesterday, and the day before that, and the day before that too.

What you're complaining about? Frivolous in comparison. /vr/ has a lot of good threads, some quirks, but nothing maddening to the point of insanity. You don't get autists screeching at the top of their lungs over a game made by a tranny being posted, you don't get floods of shitposting and dozens of threads in a DAY over an e-celeb's tweet, you don't see fags trying to make everyone mad in every god-damned thread, you don't see half of the catalog filled with off-topic drivel. This is /vr/, NOT /v/.

>>3917154
We are already fresh with our Doom threads focusing so much on recent mod releases instead of the 90s classics.

>>3917276
It just depends which threads you go to. Threads about old RTS and games with cute little girls are always good.

>>3917185
But that would make the PS2 retro retro shouldn't be used here as a word anyway

>>3917283
Fuck you not even those are safe from newfag try-hards. Because I come onto 4chan to get told loli ISN'T okay. Absolute nonsense.

So I hope you reconsider ever browsing /v/ again, settle for /vg/ if you must but never /v/.

>>3917281
doom general is a shitty containment thread. we don't need more.

NO 6th GEN CONSOLES

>>3917176
I honestly wish there was more separation between boards. I see a big difference between Unreal and a classic NES title. As it stands, the latter titles tend to get overwhelmed by the former.

As for RE4, there is a post almost always in /v/ related to that. I think that is one of the most popular games there. If anything, this shows we don't need to expand here.

>>3917276
Meh. Every board has a bunch of threads I ignore, /v/ and /vr/ are two peas in a pod from my perspective. The flavours vary a little, but it's all 4chan. I like all of it.

>>3917295
>I honestly wish there was more separation between boards.
That's why ribbit exists. Tons of subforums for every little thing. It's not the 4chan style.

>>3917176
I think it's inevitable. When /vr/ started, it was all over the NES.
Now? Not so much, more like SNES/Megadrive at the oldest.

>>3917116
Awful idea, in a few years the entire board will be COD and LOL. NES up through PS/Saturn/N64 was a very different and influential era in gaming history and /vr/ is for the discussion of that era. The actual number of years something was out is irrelevant to that.

>>3917291
/vg/ is like reddit, good for tutorials but the circlejerk discussions aren't worth it.

really if it's 3d it isn't retro and you're all shit posters that belong on /v/

this should only be 16 bit games AT MOST

>>3917252
How fun is Mega Man Legends 2? I've only played the first one, is the second just as good?

/v/ doesn't care about 6th ge-

>>3917309
>NES up through PS/Saturn/N64 was a very different and influential era in gaming history

Every era of gaming is distinct. Dreamcast is far more similar to 360 than it is to Atari 2600, but they're all very different from each other.

>>3917313
Pretty much.
Animal Crossing General is super friendly and oddly not perverted. Fighting Games General is posers talking about waifus all day every day.

>>3917319
>playing the only Onimusha game that's not good
>complaining about Fatal Frame
>emulating FFX instead of playing the superior PC ports

Yeeeaaah.....
No.

>>3917319
Cool, now start a GBA thread.

I haven't seen one go over 60 posts before getting archived.

>>3917330
Ok...

>>3917317
Gameplay is better but the "anime" aspects that make it like a saturday morning cartoon are worse. Not even by alot, but its there. It does have brown lolis though.

>>3917301
I don't agree at all. /v/ is one of the least 4chan board on 4chan. It is FAR below 4chan standards but newfags coming from ghetto websites such as 9gag or reddit wouldn't know this, since all they see are /pol/, /v/, /b/, and maybe /r9k/ too.

Every single fucking day those faggots make a rec. thread on /v/ saying "What are some games where..." and the end of that phrase could be anything from a sincere question to an excuse for another off-topic thread. Either one is complete fucking cancer for it encourages newfaggotry and just faggotry in general.

If one of those niggers tries to make a thread on /a/ that asks "what anime is good" they're gonna be told to fuck off to >>>/wsr/ and the thread will get deleted. Maybe they'll even get banned for a day if we're lucky. If they try to act like a /v/ermin on any board that isn't known for being cancerous their thread's going to get deleted and the OP will be told to fuck off back to /v/ where they belong, rightfully so seeing how /v/ acts compared to the rest of the boards.

The way I've been talking makes you think that it's just /v/'s audience that's complete crap but some of the mods and janitors that regulate the board share the blame as well, for actually sharing in their schizo mentality, deleting good threads and not bothering with threads that need their attention, and banning the wrong anons too. This insures that /v/ will remain a bad fucking board from now until who knows when, probably never.


I could go ON. /v/ was my first board on 4chan, but the way it is now I would strongly advise against continued usage seeing how a lot of their stupid will rub off on you.

I explained this before.

PSX was released in 1994
PS2 was released in 2000
PS3 was released in 2006

Roughly, each generation is a span of 6 years. Talking about current gen would defeat the purpose and 2 generations behind is still a little too recent to warrant being called retro. Three generations behind is where you start to get less talked about hardware\games which is the point of this board, to have a place to talk about the stuff people on other boards don't talk about.

So 2017-18 years(3 generations) is 1999. So next year I think it'd be reasonable to talk about PS2 and so on. Having a sliding scale for what is considered retro as time moves on makes sense, right?

A new board for the ps2, xbox, gc, gba, hell even the Dreamcast.
Leave /vr/ for the the more retro games before 2000 or until the "64bit" era.

>>3917363
>but newfags coming from ghetto websites such as 9gag or reddit wouldn't know this

Ahh yes, the classic "I disgree with you so you're new" I'm shocked you didn't pull out underage as well. This is why I say the two boards look so similar to me. It's not that /v/ doesn't have annoying trolls who fill the board with childish bitching, they're there for sure. But /vr/ has you and your ilk who I see as just as bad.

Also consistently around here, the posters who complain about younger board members are some of the most vitriolic and childish in their expressing their attitudes. Thinking niggerfuckcancercuckfagwoman is perfectly acceptable so long as it's directed at someone who happened to grow up with Halo. Pathetic.

>>3917376
Not him, but clearly it's too late for you.

>>3917367
Can we just make the cutoff a flat 15 years ago already?

>>3917376
This may not be the website for you, buddy.

>>3917376
4chan is different from other websites, it's a website where that kind of language is accepted for it is a part of the website's culture.

Say you enter a land where everyone wears a hat.

You decide not to wear a hat

Everyone sees you as an outsider and you decide to complain that everyone SHOULDN'T be wearing a hat.

On what grounds?

Because you see them as silly.

No one's going to stop wearing the hats they've been wearing for years if you just see them as silly.

If you think our hats are silly then you don't belong here.

>>3917379
>>3917382
Except that I've been coming here practically daily for over 10 years and continue do so because I always like it. Not saying that weak shit eating trolls like him aren't pathetic.

>>3917332
My Ecco thread is going swimmingly. Does that mean we should keep Genesis there as well?

>>3917386
I think you're completely missing the point.

>>3917386
>My Ecco thread is going swimmingly.
I would curse you, but you're already playing Ecco. I'm content with this punishment.

>>3917383
You're missing the point. Complaining that /v/ is a complete shithole when you are making /vr/ a shithole of an only slightly different flavour riddiculous.

If you can't handle /v/ you really shouldn't be on /vr/ either. Which isn't to say you're not allowed, but complaining about it is weak.

>>3917391
lol Did you get stuck on a glyph?

>>3917392
How the hell am I making /vr/ a shithole? Is being sick of /v/ NOT acceptable? I don't care for it, it used to be good but now it's not so I don't care for it. I do not see how that is making /vr/ worse or how it makes me worse for not being able to tolerate the same repeated stupidity for years.

/vr/:
- generals to discuss modern installment entries
- crt recommendations
- Why second hand old games are expensive.
- Mario games are actually spooky.
- Have we discussed about this tiny and niche aspect of this game yet?

>>3917386
>My Ecco thread is going swimmingly. Does that mean we should keep Genesis there as well?

Are you retarded?

>>3917392
>If you can't handle /v/ you really shouldn't be on /vr/ either.
Apples and oranges. /int/ here, we got a merge with those retards for like 5 hours and it was the worst thing ever

Meanwhile /vr/ is still pretty tolerable.

The second we add anything new, the board will be flooded with shitposts by people trying to make the newcomers look bad.

The same thing happened on /v/ when /vg/ was created, and moot wanted to make the rules on /v/ stricter.

>>3917376
>I just got here from reddit

>>3917183
Problem is, it didn't help /v/, and most of the /v/ splits ended up becoming shit eventually, even /vr/.

/vr/ used to have pretty cool threads, the best being the search parties for long lost games like Chu Teng and Garage, but of course now there's more threads that are basically just bitching about dumb Youtube channels, how shit the retro vidya market is, emulation, etc, than about stuff that is actually interesting.

Also if /v2k/ is going to be made, you might as well just make a vidya board for 7th gen as well, and while you're at it, segregate 5th, 4th, 3rd, 2nd and 1st gen into their boards.

>>3917621
>now there's more threads that are basically just bitching about dumb Youtube channels, how shit the retro vidya market is, emulation, etc, than about stuff that is actually interesting.

Those are seriously not that bad and also few and far between. It's not like you're the only one that doesn't like them either.

>>3917621
>Also if /v2k/ is going to be made, you might as well just make a vidya board for 7th gen as well

7th gen is 2k.

>>3917160
This 1000%.

V2k needs to happen!

It would stop people from starting these threads and posting shit that doesn't belong here!

You can talk about any video game regardless of age on /v/

If talking about PS2 and Xbox is that important to you, do it there.

I really wish these threads constantly lobbying to talk about newer gens would fuck off already.

And it's not like I disagree with the idea but it's not going to goddamn happen. Let it go.

>>3917640
>And it's not like I disagree with the idea but it's not going to goddamn happen.

Not if we

>Let it go.

Fight the good fight. Let's make some good changes to this place.

I think adding in 6th gen would be a terrible idea because as several others have mentioned the sheer amount of shitposting being done from 6th gen lovers will destroy the little bit of quality this board has. But saying it will be the worst board is out of proportion because there are clearly worst boards like /a/ /tv/, /b/, /pol/ and /v/. I think that as much of i love the dreamcast but dreamcast and the rest of the 6th generation including GBA, DS, and PSP should have their own board v2k and leave this one alone.

>>3917640
You don't get it! Talking about 7th Gen on /v/ has cancer causing implications. What if i wanted to have a discussion on blue disc ps2 ganes? /v/ would duck that thread up, or it would die a quick death.

/v2k/ is a great solution to an actual problem. If you don't think so, then why is this thread always popping up?

I don't understand people who are not on board with /v2k/, are they mental?

>>3917621
>and while you're at it, segregate 5th, 4th, 3rd, 2nd and 1st gen into their boards.
No one is saying that, faggot.
/v2k/ would be 6 and 7th gen to start, and probably expand to include generations that are no longer current.

We really should try to lobby for /v2k/.

But you can't post on /qa/ anymore...

MODS if you're listening, please tell Hiro to try /v2k/ out.

I don't know if this has been brought up, but I think it might be a good idea to make a note in the sticky about dealing with non-retro posts.

Simply replying with "not retro" doesn't work. It fucks up discussion and further encourages trolls. People need to report posts/threads and let moderation take care of the rest.

>>3917640
There are plenty of overlap between /vr/ threads and 6th gen.

If someone asks for a game with X mechanics, I want to post an appropriate GBA or maybe even PS2 game without getting lynched or sheepishly adding but I know it's not retro.

Same thing with things like cables.
>What's a good 3rd party cable for a SNES?
A-Okay
>What's a good 3rd party cable for an original xbox?
REEEEEE

It's bullshit. The rules don't need to change, I just wish people would grow the fuck up.

>>3917665
>Quality of posts: detailed and constructive criticism in WAYWT threads is always preferable to buzzwords or simple insults. Likewise, one word ratings contribute almost no value to WAYWT threads. Feel free to be critical, but put some thought into it. -/fa/'s sticky

I think it'd be okay to put a few words in.

>>3917651
>I think adding in 6th gen would be a terrible idea because as several others have mentioned the sheer amount of shitposting being done from 6th gen lovers will destroy the little bit of quality this board has.

>The evil kid boogeyman.

>>3917653
>7th Gen on /v/ has cancer causing implications

You people are in no position to be complaining about other posters. You're at least as bad as the people you put down.

/vr/ doesn't have a problem with younger posters. It has a problem with older posters relentlessly shitposting anything they don't like and blaming it all on "cancer".

>>3917363
Stop talking about 9gag when you use 9gag approved pictures. Fucking embarassing.

>>3917678
That's an old image from my /v/ folder. I've never saved anything from 9gag and do not stay current with it so I wouldn't know which images you would classify as 9gag or not but the image I posted was originally posted on /v/.

Here's my thoughts.

/v/ used to be impossible to get any kind of reasonable discussion on due to its speed and low number of threads available.

This isn't the case anymore. The expanded number of threads allowed alleviated some problems, and /v/ has significantly slowed down in the recent year.

It's reached a point where I"ve gone to work and come home, or gone to bed and woke up and the thread was still alive.

Theres no need to further divide the board into /v2k/ or whatever you fags want. /v/ is fine for discussion on those things, and things like Crazy games General you can actively discuss things like the DMC series and God Hand.

Having any game 15 years or older is too complicated for the board. You can't expect people to look shit up before posting, and if they see any PS2 game they'll bring up any ps2 game.

>>3917684
>Having any game 15 years or older is too complicated for the board.

This is a depressing statement.

We currently have a thread about people arguing over what color the sky is.

Let that sink in for a moment.

>>3917684
This. It's like these snowflakes can't ignore anything. If you're not already subconsciously scrolling past shitposts with the briefest of glances possible then you may need to lurk more. Plenty of decent discussion happens on /v/ these days.

>>3917684
TEN YEARS, FIVE MONTHS, TWO WEEKS, ELEVEN HOURS, AND FIFTY FIVE MINUTES UNTIL HALO 3'S CONSIDERED RETRO.

>>3917694
You cant expect people to do the legwork.

The second you make things more complicated, the more you open it up to more shitposting.

I can see it now, a game will be 14 years old, and people will just go

>come back next year
>is it currentyear+1 already?

Regardless of how you feel about it, having the cut off be by system makes so much more sense than by year. Granted, there are some issues, like PC essentially being a continuous thing.

Either shut down all posting about the generations, or open it up to PS2/GBA-era and never touch it again.

>>3917707
The arbitrary bickering has gotten worse recently. I used to come here and discover some really great lesser known games, or better appreciation for classic ones. That feels like it doesn't happen any more, and I just keep coming here out of habit.

>>3917713
>>3917707
The shitposting has been here since day 1

>I used to come here and discover some really great lesser known games

If you're coming here to get hidden gems friend, maybe you should checkout youtube instead.

>>3917713
I'm trying to get some interesting shit happening by finding someone that can help me hack Quiz Naniro dream's PS1 ISO so I can translate it and there's another thread that's looking for voice actors to dub The Legend of Xanadu. Not only that but another thread has a dude making cool OC for the board by turning classic vidya characters into virtua fighters.

I think the problem here is you're ignoring those cool threads and choosing to acknowledge the lame ones.

>>3917713
I feel the same way. Too many threads about splitting hairs or shitting on anything new or complaining about game prices.

I really want /v2k/. Just an old games board for people who play games that are fun, not because they're brand new or just old enough.

Just move to Atechan's /vr/ board if you want to discuss early sixth gen shit.

>>3917724
Isn't that place dead as fuck? Why even bother bringing it up?

>>3917721
>/v2k/ will be a magical board free of shitposting

>>3917729
>Isn't that place dead as fuck?
It doesn't have to be. Why stay on this shithole?

>>3917736
... Nice try, buddy.

>>3917719
>>3917720
I said "worse" not "never happened before but now its happening omg," so stop overreacting. There are still cool threads, but it's slowed down. I've been here since the beginning of the board and do what I can to contribute, but the board is just getting more hostile and confrontational as a whole.

>>3917721
I don't know if /v2k/ is the solution, but I guess I don't have an alternative.

>>3917732
I can stand the average shitposting, but I'm getting sick of /vr/'s autistic style of shitposting.

>>3917712
I really don't think it's too much to ask of normal people. But you make a good point that many of the folks who come here are straight up retarded and asking them to do simple arithmetic would probably send them off the deep end.

>>3917083
/v2k when

>>3917746
Now anon I don't think that's very fair to the rest of the board. They split hairs because they care and if you would like to learn about why they care so much the most direct way of knowing would be to ask. It's not as if you'll be ridiculed for asking. Why, just take a look at >>3917274

Maybe on /v/ that poor soul would get memes thrown at him but here /vr/'s full of mature level-headed posters that don't fall back on ghetto /v/ermin memes to back up their statements. If you have questions all you have to do is ask.

>>3917758
Go back to ribbit if you want niche subforums.

>>3917758
After you kill yourself

>>3917741
The only way in which /v2k/ would be any good is a containment board for all the people who keep trying to force it here.

>>3917772
>>3917781
Now don't bully anon there too harshly, remember that Futaba has a ramen board.

https://dat.2chan.net/21/futaba.htm

As such I don't think it very fair to compare the notion to reddit alone.

>>3917749
Well there is some complexity to it. Sure 15 years. But is that 15 years from the original release date, or the particular localization you want to discuss? Are ports ok to discuss if they're ports of a 15-year old game? What about remakes? Emulators? New games for 15-year-old consoles. Later expansions and DLC for 15-year-old games? New, user created content for 15-year-old games? The same stuff people argue about here, would still be an issue there, especially for edge cases.

Plus, we'd have to have a mod care enough about it to actually codify the rules.

>>3917793
>What about remakes?

Remakes have always been allowed

>>3917790
ramen is serious business, motherfucker

>>3917676
>You people

Yeah, there is enough of us that this whole thing is becoming a problem, you fucking dipshit.

Why do you even care about having a /v2k/, it seems a solution to things you hate. I guess you just like bitching about shit without offering a solution. Until you get it through your thick skull, these threads will continue to pop up, people coming to /vr/ asking gba, ps2 and questionable content will keep getting posted. You tell them to go to /v/, but rarely does /v/ keep a stable thread about anything. You expect people to talk about 6/7th gen there, when you think /v/ is cancer. Ohh and people who want to talk about 6th gen are cancer. What does it matter to you if there's a /v2k/.

Hopefully never, and this is why.

>>3917809
I'm really glad that got screencapped.

>>3917793
>But is that 15 years from the original release date, or the particular localization you want to discuss?

15 years from original release seems reasonable and understandable to anyone who isn't an idiot.

Ports and remakes of every fashion already get talked about here, I don't see how that would change anything.

>Plus, we'd have to have a mod care enough about it to actually codify the rules.

The rules could be even simpler than they are now.
>This board is for the discussion of classic, or "retro" games.
>"Retro" games count as any game that was initially released at least 15 years ago.

>>3917809
But /vr/ already has waifufag threads though.

>>3917113
Don't let those youngsters wear you down. They need to learn that whining doesn't deserve anything. Do not let the in/v/aders win!

>>3917660
So basically /v/ becomes 8th gen only and /v2k/ is not that much different from /v/ now, besides the lack of anything post 2010

>>3917807
>Why do you even care about having a /v2k/, it seems a solution to things you hate.

I don't want /v2k, I think that's a terrible idea and 4chan doesn't need another gaming board. I do think changing the rules to allow games of a certain age instead of console makes perfect sense and clears up many of the issues people have here.

>>3917814
>15 years from original release seems reasonable
So you're OK with Xbox 360 launch games being on /vr/ within three years.

>>3917820
I don't think changing the rules would settle anything. A lot of people don't view dreamcast as retro and just barely having that allowed is giving everyone else ideas. Keep the rules as is because they're not broken.

>>3917809
Have you looked at the /vr catalog?

>>3904738
>>3911913
>>3914736
>>3912172
>>3913280
>>3882705
>>3910303

Who the fuck do you think you're kidding?

>>3917830
>a lot of people don't view dreamcast as retro
Well they're just idiots then.

The Dreamcast is essentially the home version of teh Sega-Naomi arcade hardware. Even if you considered it a part of the non-retro generation, it should get a pass simply because it falls under the arcade blanket

>>3917842
Yeah, I know. I'm just saying.

>>3917829
If it's 15 years old, yes. That's how things getting old works.

Note that I also said I think 20 years would be perfectly acceptable as well. But that would cut out part of what gets talked about here already which would ruffle feathers. It's more about making a set of rules for the board that actually makes sense and can continue into the future. As well as do away with the endless question of when game X will be allowed.

>>3917830
>Keep the rules as is because they're not broken.
I disagree, but that's why we're having this discussion.

>>3917083
this board will go to shit once the ps2 is added

What if we allowed one 6th gen containment thread?

I noticed the containment thread for e-celebs and figured this might be fair.

>>3917820
I agree with you, but so many people here dont want to change. I would say the majority of /vr/ dont want things to change.

With the release of the switch and the ps4 slim/scorpion, we are getting closer to the newest gen. Should /vr/ wait until these new consoles drop/2020 for 6th gen to become acceptible or will /vr/'s cut off line stay at 1999? The ps2, xbox, gc and gba have a lot of games betwixt them, not to mention the pc games of the early 2000's. This extensive library merits some kind of notoriety, hell, the ps2 alone could have board dedicated to it.

I think that if /v2k becomes a thing before the next gen drop, it should be just 6th gen. Once the 9th gen drops, then 7th gen could be implicated aswell.

This shouldnt be such a hard topic to discuss. Why is everybody so hateful towards this idea? Its going to happen, and if it doesn't than /vr/ will eventually become what it dedpises!

/v2k will actually be a cool board where we can talk about all the good armored core games and say "play God Hand" as a euphemism for masturbation

I just want GBA, to be honest.

>B-but /v/...
GBA is literally a portable SNES with good exclusives and even some Arcade, Sega Genesis and Playstation games. There's no Halo or Smash Bros. and the only Cowadooty and GTA games are really obscure and shitty.

>>3917869
The e-celeb containment is a beautifully brilliant idea on /vr/'s part. But I don't think making a 6th gen general would really be the same thing.

>>3917880
If I could just snap my fingers and will a /v2k/ into existence I think that'd be the best solution, but it isn't up to me. I'm not sure Hiro would even bother. I wonder how many other boards are having debates like this.

>>3917883
I could stomach GBA being allowed. It's the consoles that I can see causing a real problem. While I love them and would like to discuss them here, I'm a bit nervous about the kind of people who would show up.

>>3917884
Now that I think of it, a global 6th gen containment might collapse on itself from console-warring. That's no good.

>>3917874
>I would say the majority of /vr/ dont want things to change.

Considering how often this thread gets posted I don't think you're right.

>>3917856
it is and has always been, shit.

>>3917901
>/vr/ is one person
For all you know, it could be one guy really pushing his fucking agenda.

>>3917894
That was some good out-of-the-box thinking though, anon. Very creative, even if it isn't the solution.

>>3917901
All it takes is one jerk to make a thread y'know.

>>3917906
Thanks. I just wanted to help, but there's not much I can do.

I hope we find a compromise someday, whatever it is.

We can have one meta thread, but meta posts in other threads are deleted by shit mods?

So, am I the only anon who sees a possibility for compromise here?

Allowing 6th Gen posts will irrevocably alter the spirit and culture of the board.

Not allowing them seems to be an arbitrary 'Only kids born in '89' are real 90's kids' decision.

Why not have a weekly sticky'd 6th Gen thread that has an unlimited post count?

You can get your fix in there, and meanwhile the board stays clear.

Problem...solved?

>>3917906
One thread yes, but this many threads that get this much reaction?

>>3917925
Y'know, no one would even be petitioning for 6th gen here if /v/ wasn't so crap.

>>3917932
Yes they would. I like /v/ and I still think this place needs a rules change.

>>3917937
I think that's dumb, anon. I really truly do.

/v2k/ is passing the buck. Eventually people will want 7th gen games, and /v2k/ will have the same argument we're having now.

>>3917962
/v2k/ would be 6th and 7th gen, as well as 8th gen when /v/ stops discussing it.

>>3917971

And what happens when /v2k/ doesn't want their board drastically changed overnight?

>>3917976
We create /v2k10/, for all games made between 2010-2019, of course. :^)

>>3917925
Theres way too many things to discuss. It would be a horribly erratic thread, where no real discussion about things could happen. Halo mixed with pikmin and smash/mariokart, sprinkled with fat vs slim ps2 talk, best ps2 jrpg, blue disc ps2, morrowind on xbox, fable, armored core 2 which version is better, is oni a good game, mgs 2 sucks, kingdom hearts, wind waker vs twilight princess, killswitch is better than halo, splintercell, ffx, gba remakes, deus ex is best game ever, unreal tournament, time splitters 2, baldurs gate dark alliance, re4 ps2 or gc, marvel vs capcom 2k mark of the millenium, gta3/vice city/san andreas, katimari damacy, metroid prime, soul caliber 2, knights of the old republic/outcast, viewtiful joe, alien hominid, mgs twin snakes, prince of persia sands of time, animal crossing, def jam, half life 2, shadow of the colossus/ico, mario & luigi superstar saga, shin megami tensei,guitar hero, max payne, okami, dbz budokai, god of war, golden sun, civ 4, sonic 06, midnight club, etc....

>>3917976

Also, why would anyone come to /vr/ instead of /v2k/ if you can discuss retro gamers in the latter? And if you can't, who is going to use a board dedicated solely to 2000-2006 games?

>>3917993
/v2k would be everything from 2000-2009 obviously

So it would be Demon's Souls, God Hand, Ragnarok Online, Metroid Prime, Shadow of the Colossus, Metal Gear Solid 3, Blue Dragon, Super Mario Galaxy, etc.

sounds pretty good to me desu
there would be plenty to talk about

I don't get the argument that the board is about old games. Penny arcades had a place in time. Pinball had a place in time. The early years of video games had a place in time. There's a certain irrevocable spirit to it. If it's just a revolving door of thrift store throwaways and "remember X?" that's not the spirit of the board, that's not why anyone is here. It's not special because it's old, it's special because of the zeitgeist. PS2 may as well be the end of history. The fucking Walmartization of interactive entertainment. We argue over where the red line is--some say it goes way back, some a little further than where we're at. But there is a red line.

>>3917254
>yknow /vr/'s quality will drop
really? it's the same fucking repeated threads every fucking day. it needs to move either up or down in quality I'm tired of this shitty neutral quality where all we do is repeat the same threads every couple of days.
>the console war thread
>replies full of ">console war in current year"
>is it PS, PS1, OR PSX, /vr/???
>obligatory failed Jap console in the replies
>MEGA64 HAHAHA BTFO also in the replies
>DoomGeneral
>is MegaMan legends good???
>has anyone here played Castlevania sotn?
>yes
>"I liked it before it was "Metroidvania""
>LOL RESELLERS ON EBAY ARE JUST CRAZY ARENT THEY?
it's the same fuckinf threads every few fucking days. I need new content.
I want to talk about the 2d Metroid series in its entirety (fusion and zero mission)
i want new games to be added. why don't we just have a fucking list on the sticky with games that are allowed this year, like someone said, 15 years minimum? or some pastebin and Ctrl+f to find if the game we want is allowed to be talked about?

>>3917993
really makes you think about which would be the more popular and successful board huh?
I think there should be a progressive /vr/ called /vrp/ or something, and we should just impliment the anything 15years and older rule there while /vr/ becomes the containment board for people who like nostalgia- not games and those like that guy who says that any non vr game is objectively worse than any modern game ever made (which is 1. subjective, and 2. implies any and every game past 1999 is utter shit)

/v/ is so much fucking worse than this place that it is pretty funny hearing people complain. Why don't we just keep doing what we already do, that is, discuss sixth gen shit under the table in threads where it's appropriate?

>>3918031
>every game past 1999 is utter shit
I also have trouble listening to albums past 1994 due to brickwall limiter abuse.

>>3918018
y'know, I can be annoyed at repetitive threads too. It's a huge reason as to why I hate /v/.

The beauty of /vr/, however, is that you could make a thread about literally any game and have it discussed to wonderful lengths. Sa Ga? Shining Force? Wizards and warriors? Monster Rancher? Neopoke-kun? Quiz Nanairo dreams? Because this is a slow board you could explore and talk about all of these games at a comfortable pace. I think that's really nice, so the real solution to that is to encourage more creativity with threads because there really is quite a few games that fit the board's retro criteria that quite a few people don't talk about.

>>3918038
because unlike /v/ and off-topic posting, non-retro posting on /vr/ is the equivalent of walking through a minefield without a radar and expecting to come out in one piece.

are you guys so new that you think hiroyuki gives a shit what you think LOL

>>3918002

you know why /v/ is so fucking? because you faggots keep cutting it up into tinier chunks

fuck this shit. as much as I like /vr/, it was completely unnecessary as a board. fuck generals, fuck /vg/, fuck /q/, fuck moot

>>3918057
except that people do it all the time?

>>3917932
I agree. If /vr/ would just slow down with all the shitsliding threads then 6th & 7th gen threads probably would actually get some traction. What they need is harsher mods and anchored threads

>>3917932
I agree. If /v/ would just slow down with all the shitsliding threads then 6th & 7th gen threads probably would actually get some traction. What they need is harsher mods and anchored threads

>>3918038
I cant talk about morrowind here, mod lists, lore, character builds.

Mgs2 & 3? Nope.

Starcraft 2? Nope

Star wars kotor? Nope.

Animal crossing? Nope.

Gish? Nope.

Mario and luigi supetstar saga? Nope.

Ut2k3/4? Nope.

You see, theres much to discuss and /v/ isnt a good place to talk about modding ps2s or getting opinions of ps2 jrpgs. Talking about pc games from 2000-2005 or why civ 4 is so awesome. Halo 2/3 threads and fable talk.

/V2k/ is a good idea.

>>3918067
Technically you could talk about Animal Crossing here, since everyone's more lax about remakes and AC started as an N64 game.

>>3918072
Well possibly, but what about everything else.

What about all this >>3917983

>>3918072
Isn't GC AC more of an enhanced port either way?

>>3918081
Probably not. But AC yeah.
>>3918082
Yeah, it actually is. Barely any difference. Probably why the fan translation for the N64 version just stopped.

>>3918049
The problem with /vr/ is that the general usebase is split between two general types.
The ones who talk about games they played when they were kids and rarely play anything other than those and the ones who are actually expanding their libraries and tackling their backlogs.
Problem is the former far outnumbers the latter type of /vr/ trooper, so while it's true /vr/ does indeed talk about lesser discussed series, like SaGa games or Monster Rancher as you said, that kind of discussion is drowned by six different Final Fantasy or Chrono Trigger threads which are basically the sympton of /vr/ Alzheimer since the posts are quite literally about the same fucking things all the time.
Hell, I've discovered plenty of cool games thanks to /vr/, especially thanks to general threads like the PC88 ones, but I can't hide that /vr/ is at large made of endlessly recurring threads about games everyone played already and there's really little to talk about, even the Doom threads at least spice it up a bit by posting new wads and keeping people up to date with the release scene, same with the SaGa ones or even the DQ ones, which are full of people who are more than willing to help newfriends out.

Honestly, I'd say we should allow the 6th gen in 2020, if we're still around that is, otherwise this board will die out spontaneously.

I like 90s PC games but there isn't much discussion here of stuff for PC before 2000, save for >DoomGeneral.

There are a lot good PC games in the 2000-2003 period that would not be discussed elsewhere for lack of traffic.

On the one hand it would be nice to see threads about them here, but on the other, there's this hard core of people who get furious when they see post-2000 games mentioned here, and it's amusing to see them spaz out. So I guess I'd prefer that there be ongoing controversy and accusations of rule breaches, rather than having a formal guideline.

why would we need to discuss 6th generation games when you pricks haven't even discussed all the older ones? Sounds more like younger kids that just want to discuss their childhood games here cause most of them don't talk about shit apart from Mario and Zelda anyway.

>>3918091
>Honestly, I'd say we should allow the 6th gen in 2020, if we're still around that is, otherwise this board will die out spontaneously.

No way Jose, we just gotta discover and play more of those old games. That's like buying more spaghetti when you still have spaghetti you haven't unboxed in the cabinets.

We just gotta revitalize the community bit. Pictures and WebMs help. Imma' do my part and translate QND once someone can help me with the other bit of it that I can't do.

>>3918103
>>3918091

Agreed, ive tried to start text adventure threads and frontier elite threads, but they get over shadowed by mario/zelda/doom.

I dont mind the doom threads and even to an extent the mario threads, but the zelda threads have become horrible.

Y'know, I expected this thread to be complete fucking cancer. But then it actually turned into a pretty informative insight into how we could make /vr/ a better board.

>>3918108
>we just gotta discover and play more of those old games.
Pretty much all that remains is JP only games, 99% /vr/ doesn't know JP and isn't motivated enough to learn it, so your best bet is that somebody puts out a translation, otherwise even if you make a thread about JP only games you'd be lucky to even get a reply unless they're games a lot of people know or are waiting for like Aconcagua or MOON.

Sure, I'd love to talk about all those little games like Lady Sword, Velldeselba Senki, Bardysh or even some kusoge like Rayblade, but realistically speaking nobody gives a shit because they don't know moon and many of them are too weeb for most people.
Even VNs who got translated like Bloody Bride don't get enough attention to sustain a thread now, what makes you think they ever will? And in 2020 even the PS2 could be rightfully considered retro.

>>3917083
By their standards, I still think PS2 is pretty modern. I don't see the retro on it.

Somehow tho I think PlayStation is riding the edge of "retro-not retro", how smart is to use the amount of polygons in defining something being retro or not?

>>3918113
Zelda threads are always horrible because Zelda fans are horrible, at least the Mario threads are discussing which level you like best in a game or what game is better than the other. Sometimes you just got to wait for the right timezone to wake up cause the Europeans always know good obscure PC games or whatever.

>>3918131
bullshit, theres tons of good windows 95/08/Saturn/playstion games that never get discussed cause console babbies don't leave their safety blanket Nintendo consoles

>>3918131
Listen anon, even if what you say is true, that there's only JP games left, let me just say that if it's interesting than people will eventually flock to it.

Perhaps it's hard to see now, but /vr/ has quite a bit of potential in it. Why, it could be capable of something beyond our wildest imaginations. We could be one of the more elite boards on 4chan by getting shit done and having fun every day doing it. What this thread is all about is trying to make the board more "accessible" to a wider audience, to bring in fools that only want to talk about 6th gen and nothing more. Does that sound appealing, that this niche will disappear forever by being buried under newer creations? I think you know the answer.

>>3918091
>>3918113
>>3918159
/v2k would take a lot of that heat off by splitting the focus of discussion and dividing people's attention based on their interests. It would also make it less justifiable to talk about the same shit all the time instead of taking it to /vg

if /v2k existed, /vr would become even more retro oriented

>have this same inane discussion every week
>nothing ever changes

Why do you people love wasting your time?

>this board for my favorite topic is shit
>should I try doing something to make the place better?
>no, I better refuge to a different board and change it into the board I am leaving from
>surely the shit will not follow to my new board, why would people go to a board about same topic but without the shit reputation?

>>3918159
>theres tons of good windows 95/08/Saturn/playstion games that never get discussed
I know and that was part of my point when I said that the majority of /vr/ posters are simply driven by nostalgia, but you can't solve that, it's just who they are, they didn't change in 4 years, they won't change after other four years either and this will go on and on, some people are like that and you can't do shit about it.
>>3918160
>What this thread is all about is trying to make the board more "accessible" to a wider audience
I disagree, partly because even the /v/ infiltration is considerably modest and partly because adding another gen doesn't necessarily entail bringing cancer, which is a constant factor in everything anyway, see how the SHMUP threads devolved into shitflinging contests without having anything to do with 6th gen consoles, or the usual consolewars threads which have appeared since a few years.
>Does that sound appealing, that this niche will disappear forever by being buried under newer creations?
I honestly don't believe it will, if you yourself believe in the potential of the board you should know better than me.
People like you and I will keep digging through oldass archives and post stuff either way because we have a genuine interest in doing so and sharing stuff with others, which is what made me appreciate this board back when it was younger, adding another gen doesn't necessarily change that, just like the Dreamcast didn't, in fact I discovered many cool Dreamcast games thanks to /vr/ sparking my interest for the platform, and I still learned a lot about other old consoles like the C64, expanded my Amiga library and so on, looking back it was a net gain for me, and I am certain this won't change as long as people like us are in this board.

I still mantain that by 2020 we should admit the 6th gen, not doing so means being willingly blind to the passing of time, as I see it that would be a big mistake in more ways than one.

>>3918159
True, anytime i learn about old good pc games, its a european.

Why do zelda fanbabies have to be so disgusting? They are a fowl bread of nintendo faggotry, like the nostalgia goggles were surgically implanted by the borg. They are borg-like creatures with severe mental problems.

Before you try and attack me over my opinion. Consider this: i like zelda, but im not blinded by its flaws.

>>3918204
Well I see we both have a common interest in seeing the board grow but by completely different means.

Mark my words /vr/ shall grow, and without having to allow 6th gen.

>>3918239
I think the question is: should /vr/ change its rules to allow games from newer gens, but are still "old"?

Who is the arbiter of what retro videogames are? It reminds me of the different eras of art, and how modern art isnt modern, but a title to describe an era. Where as contemporary art is what is actually art of our time. Will contemporary art become a title? Then what will we use to describe the next generations art? Will it be called neoteric art? Its all quite confusing.

Should /vr/ be a title to describe an era in video games or should retro be encompassing of video games that are "15 years or older"? Its quite a predicament that needs to be solved. I personally think retro should be encompassing, as we already have generations to distinguish time frames.

>>3918257
Oh if that's the case then we should just come up with another name for games in 2000 and beyond.

The (possibly stupid) suggestion I made last thread is to allow GBA games in exchange for a 3-4 year moratorium on discussing any other inclusions..

>>3917114
What the fuck happened this year? And I thought the '13 influx was bad...

Might as well rename this place to Facebook now 2bh

a date (point in time) is only a metadata for easy and unambiguous pinpointing the limit and stating a rule, even if it's slightly inaccurate to the actual principle

otherwise it's the principle of older design principles (not used anymore) against new ones (still used today). but you can't make a good rule out of something you have to analyze.

rules should be simple. "up to 5-th gen / 1999 release date for pc" is a simple and straight-forward rule. even if a few games that would still apply to the 'old' principle don't cut the date condition

>>3918231
I love zelda too, I just get very annoyed when trying to discuss another game I like while "Why is links hair pink" gets 200+ replies.

>>3918167
Ive been in favor of a v2k for years now I would post on both boards I love that generation of games I just have a feeling if we allowed them in here the retro would get lost in the mess because we already have enough nostalgia fags adding more would just make more junk threads. 2 boards with junk threads is fine though at least you have some space for good stuff.

>>3917114
thats the fucking shills /pol/ is all shills now

>>3917150
moot is a fucking cuck faggot anyway. he got fucking cucked by his stalker. Pathetic

>>3917932
>Y'know, no one would even be petitioning for 6th gen here if /v/ wasn't so crap.
Stop making shitty threads on /v/. It isn't difficult AT ALL to have a quality discussion on /v/ about 6th gen games, and if you think otherwise you aren't fucking trying.

>>3917874
Avatarfagging is against the rules.

>>3918456
I don't make threads on /v/ anymore anon.

>/v2k
>/v
>/vr

How to spot a newfag/cripplechan user.

>>3918484
Is that how they do things over there? Thanks for the info. And don't let 'em get to ya' anon. Their website's dead as hell so just report any attempted advertising and janny'll get to it. Janny got to the one itt, didn't he?

>>3918492
Just pointing out the blatant signs.

>>3918506
Ah. I understand.

>>3917083
Not retro.

Fuck off.

>>3918524
Learn to sage, dude.

Sage

Allowing Dreamcast was a mistake.

>>3918481
>I don't make threads on /v/ anymore anon.
So don't complain about /v/ being shit if you aren't going to attempt to do anything about it.

Why does this place have e-celeb threads?. I recently started using /vr/ like since the last months of 2016
I was shocked to see such threads on /v/ when I started to go there a year ago
So far /vr/ is a better place to talk about games than /v/, and I have stopped going to that shithole since I came here
I have noticed that sometimes threads pop up here with reddit links. and are left alone without being deleted. why is that?

>>3918556
I tried a long time ago and gave up and left. The cancer was too strong and has only gotten stronger. It would take a miracle to save /v/ at this point.

>>3917175
It really is as simple as this. Already in /vr/ we don't see much discussion of the real early gen titles. Adding new content to the list of allowed topics would only serve to push the quieter threads off the board entirely.

If you're concerned because you can't post a thread about PS2 shit on /v/ and keep it alive, the best option I've heard is for a /v2k/ board, one specifically for ps2 onward, stopping shy of modern/current gen.

>>3917819
We're seven years in to the '10s. There's plenty post 2010 to discuss. Plus it's not like posting older shit to /v/ will get you banned.
Just like right now, if it's videogames, it's acceptable, but that gives you no guarantee that you'll be able to keep the thread alive.

Sage

>>3918560
Lurk forever.

>>3917842
>The Dreamcast is essentially the home version of teh Sega-Naomi arcade hardware. Even if you considered it a part of the non-retro generation, it should get a pass simply because it falls under the arcade blanket

If you want to make that argument, then the Gamecube is essentially the home version of the Triforce arcade hardware.

>>3918627
Says the redditor
Kill yourself

>Hiro has said one gorillion times that he wont make anymore boards because theres no money
>the first thing autists do is spam /v2k/ like if a single gen would have a board to discuss rather than doing the normal thing to joining to the retro board

I would have no problem with gen 6 joining in 2018/2019.

Sage

>>3918637
/v2k/ as an idea was created becuase the >NOT RETRO autist staunchly refuse to let anything change their precious /vr/

Personally, I'd like to see the rules update here, but I could also be fine with /v2k/

And if /v2k/ was made, it would be sixth and seventh gen, and would expand to include the 8th, 9th, 10th, etc gens as time goes on.

>>3918637
>Hiro has said one gorillion times that he wont make anymore boards because theres no money
You really believed him? Did you buy a 4chan pass when he begged everyone to, too?

>>3917083
You underage can't properly discus what we got now. Adding more could only make it worse. Obligatory fuck back off to /v/

>>3918634
Incredibly weak.

>>3918689
>I like reddit cock
>I love e-celeb shit
That is you

>>3918682
Are you kidding?
We can't even have good obscure game discussions anymore because all the /vr/ regulars already know them all.

Sixth gen will literally never be retro and you will NEVER be allowed to talk about it here. :^)

>>3918691
Like flies to honey, the newfag can't help but swarm. Gimme one more before I pass out for the night.

>>3918702
>Pro 6th gen side presents arguments for updating the sticky

>Anti 6th gen side: NO, NEVER, Muh feelings!

>>3918751
OK, the 6th gen has been added. Now there are posters whining about the Xbox 360, Playstation Portable, and Nintendo DS not being allowed on /vr/ because they came out before the 6th gen ended. We allow those platforms. Now people whine about the PS3 and Wii not being allowed because they came out during the lifetimes of the X360, PSP, and DS. We allow those. Now people whine about the 3DS not being allowed because it came out during the lifetimes of the PS3, PSP, X360, Wii, and DS.

If we keep allowing these newer and newer systems, the line between /v/ and /vr/ becomes increasingly nebulous. Why should /vr/ exist at all if the line keeps moving? You may call my argument a slippery slope (and it is), but it's exactly what fucking happened before the Dreamcast was allowed on /vr/. People whined that the Dreamcast should be allowed because it came out in 1999. The line needs to be firmly drawn somewhere.

>>3918265
Maybe
But even my OPINION is fallable and im just really not sure what to do about it. So, i just have a reasonable OPINION on the subject.

>>3918637
Ive been pretty vocal in this thread and even though i like/want your suggestion, i feel like people of /vr/ shouldnt have to be stifled by ps2/xbox/gc/gba/pc 2000-2006 talk. Frankly, i like /vr/ as is, but there is a conundrum going on. I want to have /vr/ paced threads about said platforms. I will try and make threads on /v/ and /vg/, but it seems pretty usless. What else are people like me going to do when this subject pops up, twiddle our thumbs up our butts?

/V2k/ most likely wont happen, but people who are like minded should try /vg/ it does seem like a solution. My only gripe is why make /vr/ so limited in the first place? Time doesnt stand still and now it feels like 6th gen is being snubbed.

>>3917816
>They need to learn that whining doesn't deserve anything.
He whined.

>>3918710
>>3918691
>>3918689
>>3918634
>>3918627
WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU TWO.

COMMUNICATE. YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW WHY YOU'RE DOING THIS TO EACHOTHER.

It's honestly really funny to see the contrast of arguments between each side.

The people arguing for a limit based on age rather than a hard limit of <2000 are proposing their ideas and legitimately trying to make it work.

Meanwhile the people in favor of a 1999 cut-off seem to be limited to shitposts and arguments akin to sticking their fingers in their ears and shouting.

It really is quite telling.

>>3918812
Well I don't think you're reading very well.

>>3917116
Agreed.

>>3917116

This, but raise the limit to 21 (if you're too young to drink in America, you're too young to be retro) while including a grandfather clause. No Halo for 5 years.

>>3918813
Thank you for proving my point.

>>3918796
>people who are like minded should try /vg/ it does seem like a solution
Creating a single thread to encompass and entire console generation is a bad idea. It's not nearly specific enough to work, especially on a board like /vg/ which is essentially Q&A - The Board.

>>3918824
You are not proving anything by saying "All of this side is smart while all of this side is dumb" without really going into any detail as to how or why that is the case. This is not twitter, you do not simply say things and fuck off without any elaboration. You have all the time in the world to illustrate to us your point. There is also the fact that there are quite a few wordy posts that we are expecting you to have read and have taken into serious consideration without having just went "yeah nah" which seems to be what you're going for but if that's not the case then by all means go ahead and prove me wrong. Regarding my reply to your post; I don't believe it has proved any points for your post is all dull-edges.

>>3918812
There are plenty of totally reasonable points for both sides of the arguments. If you can't see that you're probably not as intelligent as you seem to think you are.

>>3918830
>without really going into any detail as to how or why that is the case
Well I don't think you're reading very well.

>>3918832
>There are plenty of totally reasonable points for both sides of the arguments.
Every argument I've seen opposing the idea is either
>lol underage
or
>go back to /v/
Not a great track record.

the only argument for not making /v2k is "I have obsessive compulsive disorder and I fear change"

>>3918836
And Hiro won't make any new boards, which is a good argument.

>>3918840
Did he say that? That's a bit odd.

>>3918841
No money, no new boards.
If I recall, he actually wanted to prune some boards.

>>3918812
>>3918835
this kills the discussion

>>3918846
What discussion? Users have no control over the creation of boards, or their rules.

>>3918846
Nothing discuss. 6th gen will simply never, ever, EVER be retro. Sorry!

>>3917160
A thousand times this.

>>3918492
Fuck the janny. He can delete posts but he can't censor reality.

>>/vr/?task=search2&search_del=yes

>>3918842
That doesn't really make any sense. At the size of 4chan, new boards doesnt necessarily mean more traffic, it just means we are more organized.

>>3918860
>my deleted posts full of typos or regretful behavior are on full-display
How embarrassing.

the PS2 fanbase is insufferable they will ruin this board if that console gets included.

>>3918842
That's bullshit. He bought 4chan and gets tons of money by using us for data-research. Every reCAPTCHA is worth more than the cost of hosting the post it's attached to. That's not even addressing the wealth of marketing data and political leverage that's available through the site.

Things that are unprofitable don't even sustain existence.

6th gen shouldnt be allowed because thats where modern gaming started. i dont even think the dreamcast should be allowed here.

The only thing truly wrong with /vr/ is the constant shitposting about the board itself.

It seems you nancy boys won't quiet down until you get your way and the definition of retro as it pertains to /vr/ is changed. Except for the fact you faggots can't even agree on what the definition should be

>15 years
It's been mentioned, but this is a really shitty metric. It would mean you could discuss Ratchet and Clank, but you better not fucking talk about Going Commando, Up your arsenal or Deadlocked until 2018. 2019, and 2020. It is completely unreasonable for this userbase to limit its discussion of a series simply because of an arbitrary 15 year rule.

Having to do background checking of whether or not a game is retro or not is going to just cause a bunch of people to post shit regardless.

People will see FFX be discussed, and assume that X-2, 11, and 12 are fair game when they are arguably not based on that chosen metric.

>Let GBA in, but not PS2/Xbox/GCN
Another retarded solution. since the PS2 is older than the GBA and no matter what metric you use, is arguably more retro.

If your argument that 2D is retro than you're just splitting hairs, and then you can make a strong case that anything 3D shouldn't be allowed here.


My proposed solutions:
>Discuss retro games on /vr/, and discuss anything not retro on /v/ or /vg/ as it was setup
>If you want to have sustained discussions on non-retro defined games and refuse to go on /v/, there are plenty of other forums and boards to do that in.

>Hiro doesn't want to make new boards
If you've paid an iota of attention to 4chan it's pretty fucking clear Hiro is a money grubbing jew who is only interested in cash. Did you not notice how fucking unusable the site is on mobile once he took over? More boards = more site maintenance with moderators and janitors and he doesn't want to deal with that. Especially considering /v2k/ will be just as slow as /vr/.

>>3918863
Anon, where are you getting these Doremi episodes? Are they're any good subs?

>>3918878
I downloaded some RAWs on nyaa. That's not to say they're not translated, as the whole series is on bakabt, just with hard-subs (besides season 1, sharp coming soon I think)

>>3918878
>>3918882
psst tokyotoshokan

>>3918882
That's a shame. Really wanted to give this a rewatch after the 4Kids disaster, I love uber-cutesy animu like this, seems no-one wants to sub kids shows at all.

>>3918893
Nonono, I think you're misunderstanding. The entire show is hard-subbed with the exception of the first season which is soft-subbed. You're good to go. Watch it, it's the best anime I've ever seen in my god-damned life and I truly mean that.

>>3918829
No, thats not what i meant at all! Make a single topic, like blue disc ps2 games, or gba general. It doesnt have to encompass everything!

Wtf is with all these extremist talk points, its like people cant have varying details or nuance?!?!?! Fucking imbeciles!

>>3918893
also you're gonna need this

>>3918898
Oh, good. I'm trying to find more shows like these, there's one in particular that seemed to star a witching character but I can't remember the name for the life of me.

I especially love that one of my favorite character designers worked on Doremi, who's also done a decent amount of /vr/-era stuff.

>>3918836

If you want /v2k/ because you want /vr/ untouched, then it's you who has obsessive compulsive disorder and fears change.

It is not a compromise, it's a way of foisting this argument onto another board. Because eventually, there's going to be calls for /v2k10/.

>>3918889
I'll keep this bookmarked for future references but I've gotten all of my Ojamajo fix from nyaa by just searching in 日本語

>>3918906
I understand your point, but allowimg ps2 alone would flip this board upside down. /V2k/ is the real solution, but as it stands, /vg/ is the only possible solution.

>>3917170
correct. nice use of allegory.

>>3917401
>How the hell am I making /vr/ a shithole?
No him, but you could perhaps dispense with the modern anime avatar faces.

>>3919054
Are you the kind that prefers retro faces? Can't blame ya' but I also think you should respect the doll anime, it's an important part of 4chan culture.

I wish questioning the board rules was bannable. Do we really need a 24/7 thread up where people beg to change the rules to whatever console they feel is retro? Is it that hard to follow the guidelines and accept it?

>>3919069
Autism knows no boundaries.

>>3918915
I just use bakabt.

>>3919079
Me too but Baka doesn't have Raws.

>>3919054
Oh wait, I get it. Because modern=/=retro

I get you, anon.

>>3918927
vg is on the verge of dying. In one year it won't make sense any more to make a new board.

>>3918832
There are not plenty of arguments, only one: Don't want to change the limit to avoid more younger visitors.

vr is quite hypocrite. Have a look at hand helds threads, dragon quest, megami tensei, saga, doom, and so on. Half of these threads are for discussing new titles, yet you won't see vr complain. Why? Because they actually don't mind as long as none can notice it. And these threads are the only one that saves the board from the death.

>>3918906
You mong, /v2k/ was thought up because /vr/ rulefags have refused to budge in nearly every previous thread.

That was our compromise.

6th gen doesn't belong here. Hell if I had my way, the Dreamcast, Playstation, Nintendo 64 and Saturn wouldn't be here either.
The only thing bigger than the difference between a Genesis game and a PS2 game is the difference between the demographics. You instantly kill this community if you allow that here. If there is a demand for it make a new board, don't replace an existing one that's fine as it is.

>>3918698
>we can't even have good how do you turn on your console discussions anymore because all the /vr/ regulars already know how
I don't have a problem with this

>>3917083
If we do get the rest of 6th gen, can we autoban halo?

>>3918049
>Because this is a slow board you could explore and talk about all of these games at a comfortable pace.

This is why you shouldn't be on 4chan.

>>3918067
>/V2k/ is a good idea.

No because we should just be able to talk about them here. If you want a place with many tiny specific boards and a small community where you can make a thread, bump it once a day and have it last for weeks, Redditt or somewhere similar is set up exactly for that.

4chan isn't and shouldn't be.

>>3919410
>No because we should just be able to talk about them here.
But you can't.

But, hey, good thing you have a whole board dedicated to general video game discussions!

>b-b-b-b-b-b-b-but i can't talk about them there

Then I guess you're just shit out of luck. Deal with it or leave.

>>3918816
>This, but raise the limit to 21 (if you're too young to drink in America, you're too young to be retro) while including a grandfather clause. No Halo for 5 years.

I fully support this. 21 years seems perfect.

Also 4chan is an 18+ site. So anyone posting here should be capable of basic math.

>>3919416
>But you can't.
We should though. That's the point.

I already like and post on /v/ and have nothing against it, but I seriously think the rules here need a change and expanding them will bring in more posters and much needed variety to the board.

>>3919420
>and expanding them will bring in more posters
You say it like it's a good thing.

>>3919420
>We should though
I disagree.

>will bring in more posters
We don't need more posters.

>>3919425
>You say it like it's a good thing.
I think it is a good thing. I love /vr/, but it gets stale and boring seeing the same handful of people giving the same handful of opinions in thread after thread.

This one is a perfect example. This comes up every couple of weeks and the same people chime in to say the same things. A thread about Castlevania or Sonic gets posted and you can predict half the responses it will get just from the OP post.

>>3919426
>We don't need more posters.
Clearly we disagree on many things.

>>3919417
You do realize how many underage flood the site, right?

>>3919435
Yeah so this would be a good filter. Anyone who can't do simple math is clearly underage and enjoys a ban for posting OT.

Sixth gen (minus the Dreamcast) will never be considered retro and be allowed on /vr/ for the same reason that Silver Age comic books will never be considered Golden Age, no matter how many years pass.

I really don't know how this is such a hard concept to grasp

>>3917083
You can wait until 2030 for /v/2.0 that covers sixth gen and whatever gen that ends around 2029

>>3919442
Retro isn't a synonym for golden age.

>>3919446
It is here.

>>3919542
Is it? because 2nd gen is included, which did so poorly in America that it crashed the market for home consoles.

I don't think the 2600 would be considered a golden age console.

>>3917090
To be fair, it is the older console.

>>3919630
True, but the GBA is what started this shitfest.

Also, the GBA would be a better fit for /vr/ than the PS2.

>>3919094
Why not turn /vg/ into /v2k/, probably wont die then.

>>3919313
I actually like the idea of /vr/ becoming 4th gen and under, while /v2k/ could be 5th gen - 7th gen.

Use the 15 year old game cap, but only for PC games.

>>3919542
No it isn't though.

>>3919713
Because you want a board with hardly any posters so your 2600 thread can sit around for days without needing to be bumped and you hate the thought of having to share this space with anyone who has a different perspective.

>>3919754
I dont like 2600, assumption much!

I would like more amiga, dos, cpc and c64 threads though.

>>3919784
The sentiment was correct and the rest was true though. You hate the idea of more posters coming here because they might be younger and have a different perspective.

>>3918672
he totally did.

>>3919787
No, your wrong again.

I would like more threads about varying diversity.

You do realize there are four nintendo threads on the front page rn? While thats not necessarily bad, they are repetitive and boring. The same troll blue vs purple sky smb, ocd smb 3 not 2, whats your fav smb 2 character, famicom vs nes.

Its fucking ridiculous, and you tell me i want less people that dont ahare my views. Wtf is wrong with you.

"Your brain is bad... get a new one!" ~ Magog

>>3918898
cute shit is fucking gay what is wrong with you?

>>3919806
>I would like more threads about varying diversity.

Then we want the same thing. >>3919431
But I see getting more diversity by getting more new posters in here and one of the best ways to do that is to expand the rules some. Making /vk2/ would do the opposite of that. It would make this place even more insular and repetitive, driving potential new posters and variety to another board.

>>3918893
I know the feeling, I've been watching this cute show called Princess Pring but my korean is awful.

>>3919810
Anon don't be a tool. Girl's are cute. Real men like Girls. Therefor real men like cute shit. What are you some sort of masc4masc faggot?

>>3919817
Diversity kills and will attract more beamdoge and interactive homocide employee shillers

>>3919837
That sentence makes no sense.

>>3917130
PS1 game is very similar to PS2 game, much more than to SNES game.

>>3919817
It would be nice, but if the rules expanded ill never have a good cpc thread. At the same time i want good ps2 threads. You see my predicament.

/V2k/ is an obvious solution, but it would probably kill /vr/. I propose to make the pokemon board into Nintendo general, cause /vr/ has an abundance of nintendo threads that usually suck. Then expand the rules on /vr/. Killing my want of cpc threads, but bringing in enough new contet and posters to have varied discussions.

Im just spitballing here.

>>3919810
Anon, you don't know jack. That kind of close-minded thinking will prevent you from indulging in some of the most beautiful masterpieces mankind has ever come to create.

>>3919836
I like women, little girls are for neckbeard MLP fan permavirgins

>>3919845
>It would be nice, but if the rules expanded ill never have a good cpc thread.

I think it gives us a better chance of having them. Not everyone new who comes will be young and not every young new person who comes will only be interested in PS2.

The very idea of expanding things to attract new posters here is that even if they're mostly interested in PS2 or whatever, they will then see other threads and some will be interested.

Sure if /v2k happened those people won't be here to push the Amstrad threads off the board as quickly, but they also won't be here to get potentially interested by them. So it's not like you're going to get more discussion going on in the thread. It will last longer, but what's the point if no one ever reads or posts in it?

>>3919836
Yeah, I masturbate to Child Porn too, senpai. Like any true patrician would.

>>3919852
No way Jose, MLP's garbo sure but this show's nothing like that. This show kicks fucking ass. What's MLP about, "Friendship is magic"? These girls actually don't use magic as often as you'd think, in fact later on they make an effort to not use magic for certain things even though it'd be one hundred percent easier to do so. Why? Because these girls know that magic isn't friendship, it's soulless bullshit.

>>3919817
The argument that the board would be better if it was faster and had more posters is so stupid it hurts and is instantly proven wrong by looking at the state of /vr/ now vs year one.
More diversity in this instance means less people talking about retro games. The question remains, why come to a board for discussing retro video games if you don't want to discuss retro games?

>>3919873
Retro goes up with age, we want to discuss 6th gen retro now.

>>3919865

Good point. But, whats the likelihood of /vr/ changing the rules? Possibly if more people have these discussions, this is the best thread about this subject we have had so far.

>>3919875
>But, whats the likelihood of /vr/ changing the rules?
We need to keep having more philosophical discussions about what's "retro" if we want to advance.

I expect 6th gen soon.

>>3919874
>Retro goes up with age
No, you've made a mistake there. Retro doesn't go up with age, you want retro to go up with age.

>>3919879
Thanks, for phrasing it better, anon. English isn't my first language.

>>3919852
>>3919868
>I have to fuck all the things I like
Do you fuck dogs and steaks and cars too?

>>3919878
>Philosophical discussions about what's "retro"
That's a funny way of saying "pretending to not see the difference between PS2 and Spectrum games to get your way" which seems to be the crux of most pro 6th gen arguments.

>>3919879
>Retro doesn't go up with age
>implying retro is a set point in time
spot the retard

consoles literally start being considered retro with time. i'm sure that at the start of the 6th gen people weren't fully ready to consider the previous generation retro. they gave it time.

>>3919895
Retro will stay 5th gen and below on /vr/. 6th gen should not be considered retro until at least thirty or fifty years from now.

>>3919879
Are you mental?

Things age, deal with it!

>>3919904
we didn't wait 30 years for 5th gen to be considered retro

>>3919904
Why?
The n64 was only 16 years old when /vr/ was made

>>3919894
There's a huge difference between the 2nd and 5th gens too, and both are considered retro.

>>3919909
Indeed, we should transfer that time we could've waited for 5th gen to become retro onto 6th gen as well.
>>3919914
Because advancements in technology are not as noticeable when it comes to video games. You see the leap from Saturn to dreamcast and it's remarkable. You see the leap from PS2 to PS3 and it's less so.

Retro should be considered retro not because it's a certain age but because it meets certain criteria.

>>3919916
All the more reason to fold 5th gen and beyond into a new board. :)

I don't want newer generations here because I don't want younger people here. Kids right now are dumb as hell and everyone was saying how smart and technologically savy they would be, well common core and cellphones have turned them into idiots. Kids don't know how to use technology apart from youtube on their phone. I was building PCs and flashing my own firmware to chips when I was their age.

>>3919840
Hello, beamdog

>>3919875
>But, whats the likelihood of /vr/ changing the rules?

Who knows? But the chances are zero if we don't say we think they need changing.

>>3919879
Well "retro" doesn't actually apply to the vast majority of games that we can talk about here already, that's part of the problem. Some people take it to mean "old games" and others take it to mean "classic era games" and then they have their own ideas of what "classic era" means. Neither of which is "retro" but that's the word we got stuck with.

Personally I think this place should be for talking about old games. Obviously there was a time when all these games were new, but over time they get old. The same way if this "retro" board was formed in 2000 it almost certainly wouldn't have included N64 or PS1 and definitely not Dreamcast. But that was a some time ago now and those systems are old now.

>>3919917
>Because advancements in technology are not as noticeable when it comes to video games. You see the leap from Saturn to dreamcast and it's remarkable. You see the leap from PS2 to PS3 and it's less so.

Strongly, strongly disagree. Every generation of gaming has been very distinct, now is no different at all.

>>3919917
>we should transfer that time we could've waited for 5th gen to become retro onto 6th gen as well
Why? If we would wait for consoles to be 30 years+ this board wouldn't even allow the SNES, or most of 4th gen.

>>3919918
This seems to be a popular opinion even in some retro game forums.

>>3919917
Yeah, well look at the difference between the gamecube and the Switch.

The switch is a handheld console capable of emulating the gamecube.

The PS4 absolutely blows the PS2 out of the water.

I play games from all times, and spent more time on the game the more recent it is.
But there's shitton of interesing discussions on /vr/ and nothing at all on /v/. Why is it I have no idea.
I wish I could discuss modern games with you guys and girls.

>>3919917
>You see the leap from PS2 to PS3 and it's less so.
Games like Contra Shattered Soldier are non-existent in 7th gen. And shoot 'em ups pretty much died completely in the 7th gen. Shmups are the quintessential retro genre imo, and ps2 had some new shmups.

>>3919917
Ps1 to ps2 has a similar feel as saturn to dreamcast and dreamcast is considered retro.

Gba, ps2, xbox are retro, Unless you are a literal retard that cant cope with how things get older because time is a thing.

Retro shouldnt be a title like modern art. Things become retro after a certain point in time. You dont get to arbitrarily define retro because you have mental health issues.

>>3919919
Have all your classmates been doing the same?

>>3919938
You dont get to arbitrarily define retro because you have mental health issues.

But you are doing the same thing. Whys it gotta be 6th gen? Why now? Why ten years from now? Why twenty?

>>3919938
>Gba, ps2, xbox are retro
Not according to the sticky :D

>>3919919
I'm 18 and I mostly play "retro" games, your point? If you want to talk with actual hardcore 30+ year old retro gamers, there are some dedicated forums for that.

The average age in atariage is like 25+

>>3919946
Dreamcast wasn't allowed

We are having these daily discussions to change that.

>>3919945
You have to answer first why 5th gen is retro if it's so much different from 1-4th gens but is similar to 6th.

>>3919951
So as the rules will not change for a long time.

>>3919947
>The average age in atariage is like 25+
Just like on this board? I thought you were talkig about some communities whey you actually have to be certain age to attend.

>>3919959
>Just like on this board?
HAHAHHAHAHAHAH

>>3919946
>>3919945
Im not arbitrarily defining anything.

Definition of retro
relating to, reviving, or being the styles and especially the fashions of the past : fashionably nostalgic or old-fashioned

Ps2, xbox and gba are old enough for people to feel nostagic about!

What is it you dont understand about that. People call ps2,xbox old or outdated. They are not new or revolutionary anymore, they are by definition retro.

The sticky isnt the arbiter of retro, and using it as such is a disingenuous tactic to defend your obsolete opinion on the matter.

>>3919947
some of you are okay I just mean most of them are idiots. boasted as going to be so technologically savy, they were babied by cellphones and easy interfaces most of them don't even know how to use a pc for games