/vr/ - Retro Games

=== CURRENT EVENTS ===

HIGHWAY TO HELL
-Second phase of map submissions closed
->>/vr/thread/3901193#p3901898

QUMP
-Mapping deadline currently ends on the 17th of April
-https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Zlfb2U2VCeS70uS6Klc2ZEOC9KtnYyCyBXEmeetjh0c/edit

=== NEWS ===

[4-5] Kinsie's Consolation Prize project now covers Doom 64 Retribution; MetaDoom also to make use of it in v3.64
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=53010
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=55298

[4-1] DooW released
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HfumR3EMUlw

[4-1] April Fools: BTSX Episode 3 beta
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/93570-the-dwmegawad-club-plays-back-to-saturn-x-e3-surprise/

[3-31] Doom 64 Retribution released; a port of D64 to GZDoom that isn't dogshit
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=55039

[3-31] Quake Champions beta to begin on April 6th
https://www.engadget.com/2017/03/30/quake-champions-beta-begins-april-6th/

[3-30] Intermission E2M1 released
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E5XaOCWRZXw

[3-25] Poharex: Second Invasion alpha released
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=55797

[3-25] Stewboy released some of his MIDI files
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/93428-releasing-some-midi-files-ancient-aliens-resurgence/

[3-24] ZDoom LE 2.8.1a released; a fork for older computers
https://github.com/drfrag666/ZDoom-LE/releases/tag/2.8.1a

[3-23] First SLADE dev build released in over a year
https://devbuilds.drdteam.org/slade/
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=44&t=24955&p=986207

[3-20]Waterlabs GZD Released
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=42&t=55741

[3-20] GZDoom 2.4.0 and QZDoom 1.3.0 released
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=55739

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=== PROTIP ===

If you would like to submit any news or your personal map or mod releases here, please reply/backlink to this post.

>>3910520
First for too tired to rip and tear

>>3910434

>>3910552
Why is blue taking back their own flag?

>>3910521
MetaDoom v3.666
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?p=989530#p989530

>>3910568
>MetaDoom v3.666
>3.666
>666

lel

DOOM 2 2 TRAILER:

It is dark, You are likely to be eaten by a Fireblu
All around me are SP_FACES

First for fucking Dooooooom yeah!

>>3910520
I regret losing the version with Parias and the Centaur, I should remake it

>tfw you are still waiting for mod updates

>>3910647
What mods? I'm waiting for Final Doomer myself

>>3910647
being a psychic fan is suffering

>>3910647
>waiting for TNT2: Revilution

>>3910647
Dergla arsapnal

>>3910649
That and D4T 3.0.

>>3910653
TNT2 is Devilution. Revilution has no 2.

So regarding D4D, I'm assuming thanatos dropped in favor of developing D4T exclusively?

>>3910662
Yeah, but D4D is updated by other people working on it.
I prefer D4T, even if I'm conflicted on where I prefer D4T or D4D's upgrade system.

>>3910665
I prefer D4T's straight forward gameplay and more arcadey method for the subweapons.

So i'm playing Project Brutality 3.0 with the ultimate doom visor addon and I was wondering if anyone could help me.

I disabled movebob because motion sickness but then I found that I think UDV adds this weird drunk wobbling as you walk which is probably why the regular movebob seemed strangely nauseating.

Does anyone know if there's a command or something to disable the extra wobbling? It also fucks with my aiming since with movebob off it's even more obvious.

>>3910647
I'm still waiting for BTSX E3

>>3910668
I think I prefer D4T's simplicity, but not quite happy with how I can miss out on my favorite upgrades for a long while.
I'm also glad that D4T's going to add all the multiplayer weapons. I vastly preferred the Repeater to the Heavy Machine Gun, which was my least favorite gun in Doom 4's singleplayer, worse than the "Why would I use it if I have the Gauss Rifle" Plasma Rifle.

>>3910675
Something like this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQHmPDVfHOU
I downloaded the standalone UDV and looked at it's manual, but it makes no mention of console commands to turn it off.

>>3910675
type sv_ on your console, press tab

a list of all variables starting with 'sv_' should appear

one of those should go 'sv_movetilt' or something along those lines, if I'm not mistaken. type the corresponding command you want to disable and accompany it with a 0 at the end

think 'sv_movetilt 0', that should disable it

>>3910649
I'm working on Final Doomer right now, hehehe. We've almost got two sets done, working on the BTSX BFG right now.

>>3910675
i think its the realistic aiming or inertial aiming thing, where it moves your viewport in an opposite direction a bit when you move your mouse fast.

>>3910556
Because I'm too lazy to change shirt colors. Maybe tomorrow. Didnt honestly consider it

How do I make my bouncing projectiles disappear upon hitting a sky wall? Seems there's never been a flag made for it for some reason (not one for disappearing on sky flats either, but that can be worked around).

>>3910773
+SKYEXPLODE I believe

>>3910780
Though I said disappearing, not exploding, strangely that flag that isn't working with bouncing projectiles anyway, go figure.

>There will never be high-quality pinballs of Doom I & Doom II

WHY LIVE?!

>>3910807
Doom Pinball?
Hmm..
I like it

Has anyone else had a weird bug with ZDoom player classes where you start the game as a class you didn't choose? It's happened to me before with Samsara where I chose Ranger and spawned as Duke, and just happened to me again with the mod I'm working on.

>>3910825
There's a Nu-Doom table available in that Pinball FX2 game, but that's all I know of

>>3910840
Are you using a launcher to warp directly to a map? ZDoom remembers the last class you spawned as, and if that class isn't selectable it'll typically default to "Random".

>>3910853
On that note, is it possible for ZDL to not transport the player into a map straight away?

>>3910858
Yes, just leave the "Map" field blank.

>>3910860
Tried, but it still transports me into MAP01 right away instead of something like the title screen.

>>3910521
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/93650-antrywey-small-vanilla-level/

Linguica made a heavily modified version of entryway through savegame trickery. Requires a vanilla savegame compatible engine.

>>3910863
Make sure both map and difficulty fields are blank.

>>3910868
That did the trick, thanks.

>>3910853
I wouldn't have any clue how to pick a class using a launcher to begin with. I'm just starting up (G)ZDoom, picking a player class, then difficulty, and sometimes it just stuffs up and starts me with a different class. If I go and start another new game, the cursor on the class select menu is sitting on the class I originally picked.

Both Ranger and my class are at the very bottom of the class list, if that means anything.

I'm not the guy that usually asks for servers..
but can we have a deathmatch server with Classix.wad?

>>3910898
>GREAT, I'LL GRAB MY STUFF
>there is no time, your pistol is enough

>>3910898
Mah boi
Rip and Tear is what all marines stride for

>>3910906
How bout a invulnerability sphere for luck
>you've got to be kidding

>>3910864
So, as someone who doesn't know shit about shit regarding programming, what is the magic here?

Here's a lil' mod idea.

You know these "hang out" maps on TF2 were they're meant to look like cities, malls or even happen to be themed after Super Mario while having a bunch of features like discos, minigames and a bunch of random shit?

Do some like that exist for Doom? because i think the closest thing there is might be that old school map with the arcades and shit.

>>3910949
well there's doomcenter
>that old school map with the arcades and shit.
aye, that's the one

>>3910952
Kinda wish there were more, specially since those Mario themed maps in TF2 were kinda comfy, even if some had meme shit.

>>3910568
>V4

What will that versiom be about?

Sorry for going kinda quiet, I got a new job that's not bullshit and I also may have gotten banned for a short time during April Fool's. I don't have anything particularly new or exciting to show because I'm just working on the slow, slightly boring process of adding gib deaths to all the monsters

I recently gave all weapons autofire because I was getting sick of clicking. I also amped up the wave beam's rate of fire to make sure it still has a unique quirk. Might need to tone down the offset effects.
I also wanted to share how fucking satisfying it is to fire a plasma beam into crowds of wimpy enemies, like goddamn.

https://my.mixtape.moe/dskhea.webm

>never tried D4D
>last night see a dream where I'm going to play D4D with BTSX E1
Well I guess I'm going to play D4D with BTSX E1 then

>>3910919
i guess he loaded map01, saved the game, then hexedited it until it was completely different. either that, or he modified map01 in a "save-compatible" way in a map editor, loaded the resulting wad, saved the game, checked it loaded "correctly" over the top of the original map01 due to sufficiently matching geometry. this is more likely as it would be easier and also i just noticed it says "gzdb" for editors used in the textfile.

>>3910959
naughty boy

>>3910959
The feedback firing those weapons must be amazing

>>3910973
how portentious

how do you go from this

to this

>>3911016
>>3911017
at least it's being held the right way round lol.

>>3911017

>>3911017
lol that's fucking garbage

>>3911016
>>3911017
Because.

>>3910190
yeah, i kinda agree. It was a fine mapset, but there was nothing really memorable about it, aside from the zdoom scrpts and stuff

>>3910959

You going to add in chargeable weapons?

>>3911085
The only thing that has a charge attack is the bombs when you get an upgrade, that one is a slight ass pull, but I'm mostly sticking to NES Metroid rules here, so no charge shots.

>>3910598
>the final boss is just a giant advancing wall of FIREBLU

>>3910721
I know I'm late to the party but I just wanted to say you guys made some good shit. I'm in the last stretch of TNT with Final Doomer added.

>>3910949
there's several HQ wads that can be used that way

Shadow Mavericks is especially amusing if you want a huge place to get lost in, but there is some fucking weird shit in there.

If you really hate anime and furries stay the hell away from SMHQ, though. It would only bring you suffering.

>Look up Gloom sprites out of curiosity after their use in Surreal Killer
>Robo ass

>>3911164
Gloom has the best art.

https://www.doomworld.com/vb/wads-mods/87871-wip-the-ids-rpg-series-coming-soon/

For how long has this project been going?

>>3911164

>>3911021
kek

>dicking around with Brutal Friends because no friends
>at the start of a new map everyone immediately runs into a crusher and dies

Glad I can count on them

>>3911169
It looks like a second rate Mutant Chronicles knockoff.

>>3911242
Nonsense! It's the most photorealistic artwork the Amiga ever did see!

>>3911176
>Post says May 2016

Not retro but an FPS with a lovely aesthetic

Any gents here tried Devil Daggers? Any post 500 second runs?

>>3910520
Much like a woman, the longer you ignore Arch-Vile, the more increasingly difficulty he becomes to deal with it. I don't think that's a good strat desu famalam.

>>3910940
???

>>3910949
Clan HQ wads are built for this sort of shit

>>3911251
The date of the post doesn't have to mean when the project itself started and the title mentions how people knew what they're doing.

>>3911268
Chaingunners so tiny, you can barely hit them (or even see them on screenshots) with convenient weapons.

What the fuck happened in TNT: Evilution's ending? Why did everything turn blue? Why'd the Icon light up?

>>3911256
I'd love some of the enemies and whatnot to be converted to doom. There's one in particular that makes it look like it would be an awesome decoration

Pic related.

I haven't heard of Toward the Hell before, but it's been pretty fun so far, except halfway through the second level I realised it wasn't meant to be in pitch black darkness. It seems the mod's dynamic lights aren't working in the latest GZDoom or something, which is a shame.

>>3911290
How would a phone call between Doomguy and Ranger go

>>3911279
Some of the visual effects the game uses are pretty great too.

>>3911296
Doomguy can understand him apparently.

>>3911296
very carefully

>>3911176
Holy shit, I've been waiting for this for years.

>>3911176
Years before it was publicly posted, IIRC. So... don't expect anything.

For a first timer would you recommend playing DOOM II before Thy Flesh Consumed?

>>3911329
Eh. Flesh is technically part of the first game at this point. You might as well just play it with the first.

There's the two Final Dooms after II anyway.

>>3911329
yes i would. i disagree with the previous responder. my recommended order is e1,2,3,doom2,e4,tnt,plutonia.

>>3911354
Fair enough. I suppose either order is fine.

Here's a demo copy of a dungeon crawler mod I'm working on. Includes map01. While it is marked as .zip, run as a normal .pk3.
https://my.mixtape.moe/qwipqq.zip

>>3911296
HUUH
>UNF
HUUH
>UNF
HUUH HUUH?
>UNF UNF UNF

>>3911329
Most people recommend Ep 1-3, Doom 2, Ep 4, TNT, Plutonia in that order.

Personally, I played Ep 1-4 then Doom 2 and thought it was fine. Episode 4 does have a tough first level though, and some close quarter Baron fights on level 2.

>>3911176
are they going to be the actual proper grid based RPGs or no? if not who gives a shit

>>3911298
Yeah, those blood splatters make me hard.

>>3911271
Fuck that. Have the chaingunners ride chaingunner scorpions as mounts.

Reminder that one of the bosses of Oom is the dreaded FINAL BONER; a revenant riding a kleer chariot with two Bonewheels.

>>3910959
>I recently gave all weapons autofire because I was getting sick of clicking.
what a casual

>>3911428
They said they will be, i think

>>3911491
>he's never worn out an expensive mouse from playing Minesweeper

HEY GUESS WHAT, IT'S THAT FUCKING TIME OF WEEK AGAIN. STAND UP IN FRONT OF THE CLASS, BOYS, IT'S SHOW AND TELL TIME.

SHOW OFF YOUR SPRITES.
SHOW OFF YOUR MAPS.
SHOW OFF YOUR CODE.
SHOW OFF WHAT YOU'RE FUCKING WORKING ON.
WHAT ARE YOU MAKING?

>>3911529
was it made out of biscuits or something

Why are there so few full conversion mods for Doom? It's mostly level and weapon stuff.

>>3911542
making weapons takes time,
making maps take time,
put those together & it'll take eons

>>3911542
it's a superlative adjective with redundant adverb for emphasis amount of work. ask the rekkr guy.

>>3911550

Yeah but there are so many full conversion mods for Half Life for example and that takes even more time.

>>3911556

Half Life was strange, So many people put effort into TC's. So many people vanished off the face of the planet.

The best part of MetaDoom is the rotating sprites

>>3911556
70% of those are unfinished

>>3911535

I've been studying ZScript.

>>3911535

I've been studying ZScript.
Kodi wrote up some actor-on-fire stuff that I've been modifying/studying to learn how to get things done. I actually kind of understand this, now!

>>3910675
This is what i'm referring to btw.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9y7pimp7tus

Even if you do "Movebob 0" there's still this weird drunken wobbling when you walk.

It makes me feel a little woozy at times if I focus on it.

Is there a collection of recommended TPS wads/mods out there?

>>3911619
That's probably RealAim, which tries to make your view and aim sway to convey not keeping the gun straight 100% of the time.

Not going to lie, I think the SNES doom is an excellent port in its own right, mostly because I love the music.

>>3911638
I'm amazed the fucking thing even works at all

>>3911556
Half-Life and Quake is when the modding community really exploded. Sven Co-op is still getting new maps for it.

>>3911567
wrong

>>3911640
Sure the graphics took a hit, but it has more levels than the consoles that technically are better than it. It has the most levels of any other port, next to the playstation and I also think the GBA.

>>3911643
The levels also have accurate design despite the texture problems, compared to every other port at the time using Jaguar levels. I think SNES version was mainly made as a labor of love by like one or two people.

How do you think the 'Cube' series (Cube 1, Sauerbraten, Red Eclipse, AssaltCube, Tesseract, others) handle the style of retro FPS? Obviously the real-time editing is the core feature but they're centered around a quake-ish type of classic shoot em up gameplay.

While it's quite generic and basic, I can have a lot of fun with it.

>>3911671
Death Illustrated was the shit for me, back in the day. The combination of melancholic acoustic black metal, black-and-white visuals, and comic book art really appealed to me.
I was so broken-hearted when I learned it died and they never got to include half of what they wanted.

Now that I'm older and know how2dev, been thinking of making my own take in either Dark Places or GZDoom.

>>3911279
I legit can't tell, is that a low-res 3D model or a high-res animated sprite?

Or voxels?

>>3911648
What again is the timeline for all of the console releases? The jaguar was first and that was for the playstation, 32X, GBA, and 3DO doom. The playstation was used for doom 64 and saturn doom and SNES was its own separate thing, right?

>>3911535
Current layout for the 3rd map of my project right here.
>>3911360

>>3911680
There was one game whose name I couldn't remember, Death Illustrated was it. All the other games in the list I played, but never Death Illustrated - I don't think the DL links I found worked. It seems worth a go, though the playerbase is probably long dead.

Good luck if you try to make something similar. I also hear eihrul is slowly working on a new release of Sauerbraten, we'll see how that goes.

>>3911695
Shot of one of the areas, detailed and expanded.

>>3911535
gofgfogfogfofo

>>3911412
I know how pointless it would be, but honestly I want to see this being made by someone.

Trying to make a projectile that would heal the player periodically until the player is at full health

how do i access player's health within the projectile's actor state? If i do

a_jumpif ( "health" <= 100 )

it assumes that projectile's health, not the player's one. Is it at all possible through decorate scripts?

>>3911535
Some Heretic stuff.

>>3911412
Don't forget to press U to taunt.

>>3911759
LET'S ROCK

>>3911745

Projectiles, by default, have the actor that shot them as their target.

So, just A_GiveToTarget("YourItemHere",str amount) or A_GiveInventory("YourItemHere",int amount,AAPTR_TARGET)

The simple way to make sure that the item given only heals to 100 would be to have it inherit from Health, and give it the desired value in Inventory.MaxAmount.

>>3911643
I love how some of the console ports would actually just cut out the Cyberdemon and Mastermind.

You'd think the final boss would be a given but in a lot of ports the game just suddenly.... ends.

>>3911671
I could never really dig Cube 1 but 2 seemed much better. Doom might as well be free so I never really had much of an incentive to play these, but I might try them again someday.

>>3911759
HEHEEEEHH

>>3911798
HMPH.....HA HA

>>3911817
>LE-LE-LE-LE-LE-LET-LE-LET'S-LE-LET'S ROCK

>>3911825
EUEUAAAAAAARHUS HSKROOOOOOOOOONK

>>3911817
AAAAHHH

>>3911830
>YEEEAH HAHAHA

>>3911828
NYE NYE NYE NYE NYEEH
*presses wall a bunch of times*
E-E-E-E-EEENNNGGFFF!

Apparenlty, the Quake 3 wikia mentions Crash having some relationship with Doom

>>3911830
>that one taunt on the complex zandro servers

>>3911840
Yeah, she often mentions him in chat during quake 3

>>3911828
>>3911830
i dont get these

>>3911828
which one is that?

>>3911842
do you mean

HYEH HEH HAHAHA?

>>3911781
thanks, ill look into this inheritance thing

>>3911847
Dunno about the first one
Second one is Doomguy's Quake 3 taunt where he just bellows. Also Orion's taunt from Skulltag

Would Doomguy fuck Crash?

>>3911017
It looks like the original sprite. That's why. Could be done better though.

How annoying would a First Person Metroidvania made in the Doom engine be, since there isn't a 3D map?
Using portals, I could split the floors up into separate sections on the automap, but it'd still be only an aerial view.

>>3911847
>>3911848
Klesk

>>3911840
Yes, she was his teacher.

>>3911535
Wad I am playing.

>The PS2 version of Q3 had voiced lines for Doomguy that make him sound a bit like Caleb

>>3911865

Honestly there is a 2d map. You just have to design rooms as such that players can recognize where they are by landmarks and do route memorization the Metroid Classic way.

>>3911872
but is it something you're working on?

>>3911873
Here they are
https://clyp.it/fgajeyq1

guys

i think crash


is a dude

https://youtu.be/T6de3nqBpFs?t=17

Will we have a QUMP trailer? I'm kinda hyped

>>3911883
Either a bug/glitch thing or her helmet can change her voice, which might be also why her visor looks like tv static

>>3911883
I can't unhear Anarki's taunt as "STAN LEE".

>>3911865
Here's how I would do something like that. Every platform is another floor.
https://my.mixtape.moe/lqgfey.wad

>>3911883
If I remember right, her taunt was left out from the base game but was re-added in QL

>>3911903
By floor, I mean another set of rooms above another.
I want it to have verticality.

GORGIASS.wav

>>3911883
warning: could not find sounds/player/crash/taunt.wav using default.

The default taunt sound is Sarge's taunt sound.

>>3911903
I decided to turn this demonstration into its own gimmicky level.
https://my.mixtape.moe/kwioip.wad

>>3911883

In fact Crash and Slash shares the same voice actress, but crash's voice is a slowed down version of it

>it would be ironical if Tara Strong ends up voice crash in QC, since she already does a harley quinn voice for slash, or Jeniffer Hale or feed up the SamusxDoom meme

>>3911535
Workin on "hell" maps.

>>3912103

>>3910578
Same happened with Samsara. Guess that's Kinsie's style.

>>3912105
>>3912103
hell is blue and purple, it seems

>>3912103
>>3912105

That's some low resolution there anon, what engine is this?

>>3912137
doom

Give me some good underrated/unknown gem maps /vr/.

>>3912137
chocolate doom. that's what doom looked like back in the day, anon. Either that, or if you set it on low-detail, like pic related.
>>3912128
Yeah, it's not really hell, per-se. It's abstract land of the dead... thing. It's supposed to look (ambiguously) colder and more isolated in this level in particular too.

>>3912128
Well, we have FIREBLU

>>3910647
Waiting for those Project MSX addons.

>>3911535
Just finished the BTSX BFG, the X-Spark Cannon.
Is of much kil

Are any maps balanced for pic related?

>>3912261
>are there any maps balanced around [gameplay mod]?
nope

>>3912260
I love you.

>>3911872
Colorful Hell?

>>3911619
>can't run in a straight line
Wow that's pretty damn awful.

>>3912265
starter pack tho

>>3911107
(sounds of ceilings and floors lowering and raising)

>>3912312

Maps made for Brutal Doom are an exception that, honestly, prove the rule.

>>3911686
Voxels are cubes and anyone who says they're not needs to be punched in the face.

>>3912323
voxels are points in space on a 3d grid with graphics assigned to them

>>3912265
I made 3 maps for this one gameplay mod called Aracnocide.

>>3911872
What HUD?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T8vucVkRRiY

>>3912340
LegenDoom.

>>3912341
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MFrYZia-XXg
>this is a video from the same channel

report and ignore

Surprise speedmapping session! Make a map that uses the Helper Dog from MBF. Dead line is Midnight.

>>3912374
But I'm coding tonight.

>>3912331
fuck off eat my fist

How would you fix the chaingun?

>>3912394
I wouldn't. I would snipe people like you with it.

>>3912394
Make the Pistol a better long-range alternative via accuracy, while the Chaingun is better at close-range with more damage and a lot of spray.
But honestly it's already good as is,
don't underestimate it.

>>3912394
Make the sprite actually match the hud sprite, which I do in all my mods.

>>3912387
You gotta do it anon. Or else boner will get you.

>>3912402
Is there a sprite that does that, that's still the original style?
I think the Project Brutality Chaingun is close, off the top of my head, but it's still not quite the Vanilla Doom style.

>>3912394
Reskinning it as the player model rifle. Because gameplay-wise, it IS pretty much an assault rifle.

>>3912394
its been a while since i've played doom 1, is the chaingun useful while playing it, due to it being being better damage-wise than the shotgun with no ssg overshadowing it?

>>3912408
Er, all you need to do is add the extra missing barrels to the end. It's not hard.

>>3912417
Oh, I was thinking of making more of it visible, including the brown part.

>>3912415
It cleans up zombiemen like a weedwhacker without having to waste Plasma Rifle cells, can snipe enemies if you just pick at it rather than hold the shot, and if you lack a chainsaw it's excellent for early-game painlocking enemies. The damage output may not be the greatest, but it's an entirely valid weapon early-to-mid game and renders the pistol pretty much pointless.

>>3912420
But the original Doom chaingun is meant to be held like a rifle, not Ol' Painless style.

>>3912434
I was going off of memory, and now that I have a picture, obviously it's not as accurate as I remembered.

>>3912420
it needs to be much bigger than that to match the pickup sprite

>>3912374
As the guy who started this session, here's my map. Demons are friendly here, dogs are bad.
https://my.mixtape.moe/kcurpd.wad

>>3912347
>Autistic people posting on 4chan.

What were you expecting?

im bored give me a gameplay mod and a map pack for doom

>>3912564
BURL TUMD and Speed of Doom

>>3911648
>>3911693
The SNES version was developed without Id's knowledge or supervision, and presented to them for licensing upon completion. All the other official versions used Id's cut-down "console mapset" made for the Jaguar version as a base.

There is evidence from leaked prototypes that the 32X port was going to at least try to have the PC mapset... but that port was incredibly rushed to hit the 32X's launch. Such is Sega.

look out he's shilling his shit map again
https://www.dropbox.com/s/eeiep3ewrc9b78u/e1m8.wad?dl=0

>>3912575
I remember seeing some basic Doom 64 ports to the 32X version, but i'm curious if it could run fully vanilla mapsets and not just the Jaguar sets that were in the final version
after people actually fix the soundtrack without simply leaving it to theoretical Genesis soundfonts

>>3911256
I've played Devil Daggers for around ~70 hours or so and I'm convinced it's one of the best games I've ever played desu

Not post 500 sadly :'(

>>3912664
You can port vanilla maps to 32X, but
a.) masked textures like fences aren't supported
b.) the framerate's gonna suck
c.) you have very little memory to work with - PC E1M6 will crash on trying to load, for example

There's probably a bunch of other limitations, but I can't remember them

>>3912103
>>3912105
>>3912175
interesting take on hell - a deserted land of the dead with stone and blue fire everywhere - I like it. Good to see you're still working away on REKKR, look forward to its release!

One day I will go back to my hell maps for Doom64 (although I still have a final techbase map to complete before I should start them...) - pic related. This is from the Earth mod for doom64EX I made a while ago - its on the doom64 forums if anyone is interested

>>3911887
Oh shit thats a great idea... I should totally make one.... I am a composer after all and have done a bit of film editing

>>3912394
You don't, the chaingun is great, instead when you get get the chaingun, the pistol gets an upgrade that allows it to hit harder, so you have the rapid fire rooty tooty point n shooty of the chaingun, and the pistol becomes a better sniping weapon.

also let the pistol fire at reduced damage even if you run outta bullets, but only after you upgrade it. At least this is what I have planned for an update of my mod later down the road

>>3910959
This reminds me of that one that was supposed to be like Metroid Prime, though I've never got to try it and have since forgotten what it was even called.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/1kk3bdk6nsqta0j/gofyuckfospfuf.wad?dl=0
:)

>>3912696
Looks nice. I might steal that sort of aesthetic for some areas.

>>3912763
>also let the pistol fire at reduced damage even if you run outta bullets
Oh man, Jet Force Gemini on N64 actually does this.

>>3912809
>jet force Gemini
MAH NIGGA

>>3912810
What the fuck does that filter think it's doing?

>>3912809
>>3912814
I need the pistol fire sound from JFG.

>>3912817
IT GIVES ME A RAGING BONER

>>3912810
Is that revenant drooling?

>>3912763
>also let the pistol fire at reduced damage even if you run outta bullets
Are you me?

>>3912817

>>3912819
I can't really do much for you, but you might be able to strip if out of this TF2 mod for the JFG pistol, though I don't think it has the weaker pellet shot sound effect in it.
http://gamebanana.com/skins/131831

>>3912825
Probably not, I'm me.

>>3912827
I grabbed this one before, it has a clank sound because whoever recorded it was shooting a wall

>>3912830
Whoa, I'm me as well!
Really though I was thinking of implementing something like that for my mod as well.

>>3912842
What's your mod? I got this mechanic planned for a Vanilla/alpha/boxart Doom inspired weaponset for Combined_Arms

I'm gonna name the weaponset "F-U to the UAC"

>>3912826

>>3912846
It's the mod with the Unreal-like HUD and weapons that pops up every so often, doesn't have a name yet (besides a placeholder name of "Unrok"), but I feel like the recharging blaster weapon could be beefed up to deal more damage, while also allowing shooting without ammo using weaker shots, at the cost of halving the max ammo and recharge rate or something.

>>3912862
Oh yeah I've been following your mod. I've been rooting for your project this whole time.

>>3912798
I was just going for a traditional hell look - rivers of fire, fire everywhere, cracked ground, no recognizable buildings or anything, just irregular ground and people hanging from rocky outcrops in cages or by hooks.

Another Idea I had for a hell map was a WWI trench map - a nightmare maze of mud, artillery, corpses and probably zombies. Oh an machine guns if you poke your head over the top. Pic related was my quick sketch - made some rain using animated linedefs too. Doom64EX modding is somewhat limited - no decorate. But means that you can have a lot of rain and no slowdown whatsoever...

>>3912865
Oh, thanks! You're more productive than me that's for sure. I spend most of my time doing theory.
I really, really want to use the entire 10 weapon slots but it's been really difficult to design weapon niches while also making them fun, balancing them against each other while also sticking to Doom's gameplay (the plasma ammo pool is horrible, the difference between having a plasma gun and having a bfg is so massive), I don't want the player to feel "ugh I have to use this weapon", I don't want weapons to be left in the dust over others, it's hard.

>>3912873
>Another Idea I had for a hell map was a WWI trench map - a nightmare maze of mud, artillery, corpses and probably zombies. Oh an machine guns if you poke your head over the top.
The Darkness actually did something of a similar setup; a literal hell inside of the Darkness of sorts populated by eternally-fighting zombies in a pseudo-WWI purgatory

>>3912878
You could always make the BFG not consume cell ammo, make it some weird utility thing, or a passive item. That's what I've done with past projects

>>3912873
I meant more the silhouetted monsters against the sky. Looks nice.

>>3912881
That's the thing though, the space the BFG fills is quite big, and its use is based on how much plasma ammo the mapper tosses at you, and sometimes.. they give you it before you get a plasma gun. I was going to have it be a 3x damage usable battery item or something, but turning on and off a damage boost with vague usefulness periods is too much management/tedium for the player, I think. Maybe I should change it to usable charges rather than an on-off button, like extra damage for 10 seconds, hmm..

>>3912880
>The Darkness
is that the name of the mod? I can't find any info on it

>>3912901
That's a game for PS3 and 360 based off of a comic book series of the same name, not a Doom mod. Should've clarified that, sorry. The sequel is quite a bit different from the original, but it's something to look into if it sounds interesting.

>>3912901
he's talking about another video game
https://youtu.be/8jDVBJyIgyk?t=8m32s

Is animation interpolation a natural part of Quake 2's engine or is it another sourceport thing? Cause in particular, this hyperblaster idle looks jank as hell.

>>3912913
It's part of the vanilla engine. And yes, all Quake 2 models are jelly-vision due to it + low vertex accuracy.

It's even worse in Kingpin, which uses lower vertex accuracy in favor of packing in more animation data for the dismemberment states.

>>3912916
Kingpin? But isn't Soldier of Fortune the Q2 engine game with the most dismemberment states?

>>3912927
SOF replaced the Quake 2 model system with an entirely new, Raven-authored one called GHOUL. That name might ring a bell, because Raven and Activision used it a lot in marketing in relation to the gore stuff it enabled.

>>3912931
Was it skeletal animation?

>>3912939
I think so? I know the Quake 3-engine iteration used in SOF2, Voyager, Jedi Knight 2 etc. used skeletal, I'm just not hugely aware of the details on the Quake 2 iteration.

>>3912280
It gets worse if you start sprinting too.

>>3910520
I love every single one of you for being so goddamn dedicated to still be playing and modifying such an old title

>>3912965
we're just carrying the flames of passion of those who came before us, and the original devs.

>>3912965
I don't even like Doom, I'm just here for the occasional Quake discussion.

>>3912976
yet somehow you're here all the time

>>3912979
Auto update is a wonderful thing, as is having far too many goddamned tabs open.

>>3911686
3d model with shaders I believe.

>>3912852

So, uh, how can I make music in my Doom sound like in SNES Doom?

>>3913017
.mp3 or .wav recordings of the SNES music

>>3913017
Look for a Doom SNES soundfont for Fluidsynth?

>>3913025
ZDoom supports the SPC dumps fine.

>>3912979
how would you be able to tell?

Red pill me on Final Doom.

>>3913162

TNT Is pretty fucking good and is still one of the more beloved map packs to this day. It does have a couple of shit levels but the soundtrack is godly.

Master levels is just retarded and I don't know what ID was smoking when they released them

Plutonia is pic related.

What is the casual filter of Doom PWADs?

>>3913169
>Master levels is just retarded and I don't know what ID was smoking when they released them
There are some pretty good maps in there, IMO. I particularly love the ones by John Anderson, Jim Flynn, and Sverre Andre Kvernmo

>Plutonia is pic related.
IMO, Plutonia's usage of Revenants isn't that bad outside of like two or three maps. Its mainly the chaingunner usage that grates on me. But regardless, Its a very good challenging mapset, and probably the more popular out of the two among mappers.

>>3913179
BTSX E1M05, judging from last months DW ironman league thread.

>>3913201
Is that the one with the cyberdemon on the podium in the center of the half-circle walkway and they teleport an archvile behind you?

>>3913204
Yes.

>>3913179

Ancient Aliens.

>Map 01 Cyberdemon
>Map 02 Spiders

>>3913218
Spiders was map03

>>3913162
Two 30-map sets in the vein of Doom 2. Evilution is more explicit scifi/techy and Plutonia is more conceptually abstract, as well as difficult.

>>3913162
TNT = One of the earliest community megawads. id Software bought it out before it had a chance to come out in 1995. Slightly more difficult than Doom 2.
Plutonia = Id software wanted TNT to have a companion megawad, so the Casali brothers put this together. Designed specifically for expert players.

>>3913239

It was quite an impressive feat on ID's part to cause internet wide autistic screeching during the early days of the internet before any of the boards existed.

>>3913242
Before there was much of an internet at all, really.

>>3913248

>>3913258
Compared to today, anyway. A lot of the screeching was archived on newsgroups, I believe?

>>3913248
You mean World Wide Web and even then you're wrong.

>>3912575
32X was so rushed that it apparently came out before the Jaguar version id was developing themselves.

Hey, does anyone here know blender? I'd like to make the untextured famas follow the animation of the m4 in some convenient way and I don't know how. I've tried messing around with copying frames in the Dope Sheet editor but I can't seem to get it working.

>>3910773
This is a pretty sweet flamethrower sprite, did you make it?

>>3911126

>>3913314
It's the hyperblaster from quake 4

>>3911686
It's a low-res 3D model run through a homebrewed software renderer, I'm pretty sure.

>>3911872
This looks like Arachnophobia with some kind of rendering glitch.

>>3913318
Seeing the porn on the map probably fucked my brain

>>3912323
Voxels were originally this:
>>3912331
>voxels are points in space on a 3d grid with graphics assigned to them
...before Minecraft made everyone all retarded.

>>3913314
>>3913320
I yoinked it from DBThanatos' Quake 4 Lightning Edition mod as it was a decent enough placeholder, it's not going to stay, especially since I didn't ask.
http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=50069

>>3913341
>I yoinked it from DBThanatos
At least you didn't borrow from pillowblaster :^)

>>3913349
What do you mean, did someone else do that?

>>3912965
>>3912968
>we're just carrying the flames of passion of those who came before us

This. I'm more inspired by playing Scythe 2 and Alien Vendetta co-op on Skulltag in like 2006 than I am by the original Doom experience.

Can somebody get me a download for Shadow Mavericks HQ? The official links are fucking broken.

>>3913357
I mean he's extremely sensitive about anyone basing anything of something remotely related to him.

>>3913337
But that's wrong faggot. Minecraft isn't voxels either.

>>3913383
You're getting pretty fucking semantic-y about it after a point. Minecraft is voxels, but not voxel rendering, the way voxels are stored or shown doesn't have to be along a grid, and there's no reason to be upset by any of this.

Why are weapon upgrades like the SSG loading speed disappearing on level exit in D4D? What the hell is going on

you know, for a guy not mainly known for being able to look up or down, jumping or crouching, doomguy sure excels at skyrocketing atop of goddamn rails of all things.

>>3912696
reminds me of doom 3 but with less floating rocks

>>3913448

When he fixes the crick in his neck, things are good.

>>3913279
sorry i only modded half-life with milkshape 3D

>>3913469
You have my attention.

>>3913469
Kinsie, is that you?

What will version 4 be about?

>>3913469
Reminds me of that throwing disc thing in Predator Concrete Jungle

longer version https://my.mixtape.moe/avelll.webm

im not the author of metadoom, just some anon who wanted a more classic soul cube experience, since i found walking back and forth to collect souls and pinatas was pace breaking

Anyone else fed up with paying for maps? Anyone really, really want to stick it to the guys at WizardWorks?

>>3913472
I actually just figured it out.

>>3913509
>Anyone else fed up with paying for maps?

Can't say I've ever felt that way, no.

>>3913394
They're not voxels you faggot. They're cubic models with sprite textures.

THESE are voxels

>>3913509
I see you read the same doomworld thread as I just did.

>>3913514
THESE are voxels

>>3913514
>They're cubic models with sprite textures.
...being used to represent voxels.

>>3913514
>>3913518
Neither of you are wrong.

>>3913518
These are not fucking voxels.

>>3913518
I see you've played pixey-voxey before!

Any soundfont recommendations, fellows?

>>3913524
But they are, anon.
I'm sorry this pisses you off somehow? But you have to accept it and move on with your life.

It's all right, anon. There are other things in this world to be angry about. Other, more worthy things.

>>3913526
OPL-3. Both for composing music and listening.

>>3913527
>>3913523
>>3913520
>>3913527
Filthy GDI scum detected.

>>3913564
u lost NOD, give it up

>>3913571
>NOD losing
>EVER
kek

>>3913587
>>3913571
>>3913564
Time to put on your lead underwear.

At least it's a dry heat, Generals.

Melt! everything must melt!

>>3913431
Fuck I think I figured out what's going on with missing upgrades

BTSX is split into 2 wads that have to be loaded in at the same time, and D4D is tracking your upgrades and credits independently between the two of the combined wads or getting confused by the split or some shit.

I don't know why in the name of fuck would D4D be made in a way that matters but
>fucking vanilla compatibility REEEEE

>>3913612
must admit first thing i did with btsx after download was join the two wads together.

>>3913506
what music is that?

>>3913637
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xHVXIkVOlKQ

>>3913607
>Fearing nukes when there's demons and tiberium just laying around

What was that one Hexen mod that added new swing animations and some other nifty things to the weapons?

Here's some unfinished thing someone made.

>>3913668
Hexercise?

>>3913660
>>3913607
>>3913587
>>3913571
>>3913564
How have we gone so long without a C&C mod for Doom? Hasn't anyone had a go at remaking Renegade in Doom? I think I remember a Quake or Unreal Renegade mod long long ago

>>3913675
Yeah, that's the one. Thanks.

Would it be weird to make a Hexen map in a limited level editor, like Eureka?

>>3913679
All out War is the closest we have.

>>3913670
This would be ever so useful if it was finished and used in the way it was intended to be introduced to the player in DOOM3ROE

>>3913679
>Renegade in Doom
All out war is literally that

& this is a thing http://www.moddb.com/mods/casual-moddoom-craft

If only somebody combined ZDWars, Shotgun Frenzy/Stronghold and AOW into one neat RTSFPS for DOOM

Demons vs UAC of course.

>>3913690
i'm sure there's a weapon in Russian Overkill that works just like that

>>3913710
havent played it, but oh well, would probably make it a lot easier for me

>>3913692
It sucks when someone starts to work on something cool and then drops it.

>>3913704
DEMONS:
Experimental Units:
The Plutonia Experiment
see pic related

Skullking & Final Boner: see >>3902503, final boner is second form. puts him on kleer mount with two wheel skeletons from dark souls instead of normal kleer legs.

Demon Eclipse:
IT'S A SECRET!

SpiderMonkey:
Literally the cybran monkeylord but it's a mastermind with a microwave laser gun sticking out of it's brain

Upgrades:
SO YOU WANT TO KILL YOURSELF: Gives all revenants and chaingunners a jetpack.

GO FUCK YOURSELF!:Upgrades all existing demons to T2 versions, and unlocks T2 units/equipment/demons

LLEH NI SKCOC SKCUS REHTOM RUOY: see T3

DO NOT PET!: Cacodemons gain additional spikes and grin wider. Projectile size increased; may split into baby cacodemons on death.

Don't get it wet: Cacodemons spawn additional cacodemons when nearby fluid or void sources, four times as so when near FIREBLU

Don't feed it after midnight: Cacodemons absorb the first attack they are hit by, and adapt into sub-species accordingly.

C O N S U M E
Y O U:Replaces ALL lost souls with DRLA The Hungry; which also serves as a "wall of flesh" superweapon

where is this "oom" i see mentioned anywhere anyhow? google aint helping

>>3913746
It was a joke made when one person fucked up the OP and forgot the D

It became one of the most legendary jokes of the thread. OP was a fag and got Rootpained about it.

Apperantly, somebody came up with "JETPACK CHAINGUNNERS" and it spurned up again from there.

>>3913746

>>3913757
>>3913765
whats the source for all these gifs? a gameplay mod or a bored anon?

>>3913768
a bored anon?

I made the joke once when somebody made altfires and basically just said "shoot gun" "punch fist"

>>3910706
holy crap this is super useful to know, thank you!

Quick, somebody post a nightmare cyberdemon and a mechstrocity.

So I can mock up something that will look like shit.

>GZDoom adds new ZScript.
>Newer mods use it, so they won't work in the older 2.2.0 version that I use and have meticulously set up all the settings just right.
>Old mods are fucked in the future because their stuff might get deprecated.
>Have to install 2.4.0 and reconfigure all the settings again.

Doom, a game that is over 20 years old and fully complete, yet still has a modding environment that is unpredictable and any work done today may be broken due to a new version.

Truly, this is worst suffering.

>>3913821
>Have to install 2.4.0 and reconfigure all the settings again.

Why? you can just save your gzdoom.ini and use it with the new version

>>3913757
>Rootpained
Ebin :^D

its me or the newest GZdoom update pretty much killed Metroid Dreadnought?

>>3913821
Just use the same ini as before?

I've never had that problem dude.

>>3913757
>It became one of the most legendary jokes of the thread.
sure

>>3913771
They're by Sgt. Shivers, posted on his tumblr, co-opted for someone's forced meme.

>>3913821
>Have to install 2.4.0 and reconfigure all the settings again.

Just copy your .ini, dude.
This is, like, a five-second inconvenience.

>>3913830
How so?

>weak joke

http://culture.vg/reviews/videogame-art/not-art-doom.html

uh, guys.....

>>3913860
yes, we know about it, shit article, shit writer

>>3913860
Old news, friend.

>>3912271
sauce?

>>3913651
kinda sounds like the samurai jack theme to me

>>3913821
While it is kind of dumb, Decorate is inherently limited compared to ZScript in a lot of ways. I highly doubt Decorate will be entirely phased out, but seen more as a faster and higher level scripting language to run alongside ZScript, which could work more as a lower level, more technical scripting language.

It's kind of stupid, but there's really not much you can do if you want to both expand engine limits and promote backwards compatibility.

>>3913862
>>3913864
It's posted that same article three times. Report it on sight.

>>3913825
>>3913836
agreedo, i copied my zdoom 2.8.1 ini to gzdoom 2.4.0 and it just weurked

>>3913821
>deprecated
>removed
These are two very different things.

Why are the revenants in PS1 Doom slower than any other creature, save John Romero?

>>3913821

This isn't like the OpenGL upgrade where it's barring out a whole ton of users. This isn't an issue at all.
Deprecated isn't removed, just means it won't be updated any further. Dehacked is super-deprecated but so many maps nowadays still use it, and REKKR is even being made entirely in Dehacked.

It's all cool, man.

>>3913830

Just loaded up v1.1c, werks for me.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/pecttduzpxl8ecl/Oomprealphav02.pk3?dl=0

+floatbob

palette tonemap + software light sectormode
accept no substitutes

>>3911256
I did and I loved it but i had to get a refund since it started to crash on me constantly.

I want to get it again but i just can't

>>3913865
http://gelbooru.com/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=2750629

>new GZDoom build allows you to scale up different parts of the UI independently, such as HUD, text size, console size, and more

N E A T

>>3914018

God dammit Hiro that's not the fucking picture I uploaded.

>>3914019
When do we get the marble screen overlay with the alternative or fullscreen hud?

>>3914018
neat indeed

>>3914039
what's the map you're playing there?

best mod?

>>3914048
The one i like

>>3914048
not your favourite

>>3914048
The one you like playing the most, probably.

>>3913821
Modding peaked like a decade ago anyways just replay Memento Mori with wildweasel's weapon mods.

>>3914018
>>3914019
How long ago were the truecolor/customizable software rendering options added? It feels weird playing the Doom 64 Absolution set with software on.

>>3914047
lights.pk3

>>3914085

>>3914102
meant for >>3914048

as for map - its oblige

>>3914102
that's not a map.

>>3914104
oh. i see. never mind.

>>3913757
>It became one of the most forced jokes of the thread.

>all this rootpain