/vr/ - Retro Games

>>3911913
You don't have OCD, you're just stupid.

dumb frogposter

Why don't you want SMB2, faggot?

>>3911973
Well, it's a bad game.

>>3911976
Oh boy, here we go.

Its one thing when every entry is highly regarded like SMB, but a lot of series take a few tries to get things right or only have a couple of good entries.

>>3911976
You take that back, nigger.

I guess I'll be the first one to mention it, but are we talking about SMB2J or SMB2/USA?
Either way, you can play Mario games in any order.
I started with this one.

>>3911976
Have you said your prayers, fag?
Because your time is now very limited.

>>3911913
I prefer SMB 2 because I like to play as Toad.

>>3911913
>Can anyone else not play entries in a series out of order, or skip entries at all?
I can, because I'm a functional human being.

>>3912035
What the fuck is that?

>>3912154
Super Bros 10 aka Kung Fu Mary.
It's a Famiclone bootleg, the original game is Jackie Chan's Action Kung Fu

>greatest hits copy with case is $20
>black label with case is $150
>I rather spend $150

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>3911913
That's not OCD, you're just being a dick.

>>3911976

>>3911964
I've been diagnosed by a doctor and take medication for it

>>3911913
frogposters are not allowed outside of /vr/. Enjoy your ban ;^)

You should really play the Super Mario series in order. There's no way you could follow the incredibly complex story otherwise

>>3912632
I'm not banned.

>>3912631
Then that'a really weird ritual. Then again, people have weirder ones.
Would mediating with yourself that SMB "two" USA, aka Doki Doki Panic, is not a real sequel and just a conversion of a completely unrelated game that isn't really Mario at all, help? Get real Super Mario Bros 2, aka "Lost Levels" instead. If you liked SMB1, you're gonna like this one too, and then you can move on to SMB3.

Sounds more like autism than OCD

t. someone who actually has OCD

>>3915265
we're posting in a dumb frogposter thread after all

i feel bad for him. OCD destroys lives. See, now he's gonna get Super Mario Bros 2 and not be able to afford his much sought after copy of Retypes delta.

>>3912632
/vr/'s not THAT cool of a board yet. We need to distance ourselves a bit more from /v/ for that.

>>3911913
Thank you. Thank you. This is my problem. I can't even get into the Mario series due to there just being too many games in the franchise and it becoming daunting to play. Yet I cannot skip any.

>>3911913
I have suffered for years from depression due to something similar. I need to play all games ever made in a chronological order, plus check all influences to any game ever. It is miserable because you end up doing depressing stuff you don't even like for years on end. DnD, Peter Pan, Lord of the Rings... the list goes on of franchises I needed to follow due to one game in the 1970s being based on it.

>>3915516
Stop wasting time on video games and seek professional help. That isn't normal.

>>3915525
It is a bit depressing to admit, but I actually tried. They actually felt so bad for me they said they couldn't help me and to just do what I can on my own. I was such a sad case even professional help couldn't help. All over video games of all things.

>>3915532
Do you have any idea what the root of the compulsion is? Is it a fear of missing out on something? Or not being able to play the game properly if you haven't played previous ones?

Does it affect things other than video games?

>>3915549
When I started gaming, I just got what I could get. Oftentimes they would be sequels and throw me into the middle of the story, leaving me with a sense of it being incomplete.

Indeed, it is quite a big fear of missing out. I feel not seeing X part of the franchise before Y will result in some retcons in Y that take away from my love of X. Plus, maybe the technology will be worse and thus I find the game inferior, while I would have an appreciation if I hadn't touched Y. Maybe I would have some idea about why this Mario character exists if I played an earlier game, while here I just have to accept it, and that bugs me heavily. I have tried breaking order, but I feel sick and depressed afterwards, like I just cheated myself out of a proper experience. The irony, which I am aware of, is that I end up realizing how daunting the task is and thus play no games in said franchise.

Any sort of fiction. I can't watch part II of a movie unless I see part I. If I watch a tv show, it has to be from the beginning most of the time, but I tend to be less strict to this than movies and games.

>>3915563
It's sad how relatable this is.
Games just have too many sequels, you don't get this shit with classic literature.

>>3912173
The irony is the green label versions are usually less common too.

>>3912173
I don't mind the Greatest Hits labels for PS1 and PS2 PS3 gets my autism going fierce though

>>3915563
>tfw whenever I buy a game I feel a need to buy all of its sequels at the same time even though I won't actually play them until a few weeks later

>>3915594
Exactly. Most classic literature exists by itself in a vacuum, you don't need to understand others. Yet every game that is popular gets another game. Great for content, but hard for people unacquainted with it to get into it. Metroid, Sonic, Mario, Kirby, Final Fantasy, Legend of Zelda... there are so many titles out there with more than 10 games that become daunting. Say I wanted to see Final Fantasy VI, I would need to sit through five games I might not even potentially enjoy just to get to the one I may or may not like. It is a commitment to something I may loathe. Yet, if I don't do it I end up feeling horrible and break down, feeling everything was ruined. It stinks if you find out you like Final Fantasy III, but absolutely find Final Fantasy I daunting to get through, so you end up not bothering with it at all and thus locking yourself out of a game you would otherwise enjoy.

>>3915608
Few weeks? I end up dragging things out for months. To try to play Baldur's Gate, I realized it was set in the DnD world and I would have to read every DnD source book out there. I only made it to the early 1980s, which took more than a year mind you, before they started mentioning all these games created by DnD which made me entirely fed up with it. Imagine reading source manual after source manual, reading magazines for a series you have no interest in but might have a potential interest in a game made in 20 years, and have to work through those years to get to the fun part. As such, I have never been able to touch Baldur's Gate. I get used to suffering with some franchise, getting sick of the effort I am putting in, then trying another terrible route.

>>3915563
Wow, I wish I could help but that just sounds terrible.

>>3915616
>Exactly. Most classic literature exists by itself in a vacuum, you don't need to understand others.

This is only partially true though. Most classic literature is heavily influenced by what came before it, if not being outright re-tellings of the same stories. So even though Romeo and Juliette stands well on it's own, it's a retelling of Brooke's The Tragical History of Romeus and Juliet. Which is itself a translation of another poem which may have been based on something earlier.

Heck even many sections of the Bible like the flood are re-purposed older myths.

>>3915621
>To try to play Baldur's Gate, I realized it was set in the DnD world and I would have to read every DnD source book out there.

This gives me shivers. I wish I could help, just wow. As someone who played a lot of D&D back in the day as well as a good bit of Baldur's Gate I can't really see that adding to it in any way. That sounds crippling.

>>3915638
The whole western canon is working from Greek literature and Biblical texts. If you haven't read these you're going to miss a fuckload of themes and references. Reading Plato is also highly relevant.

>>3915658
>>3915658
Well yeah but my point is that if you're as deep in as these guys seem to be suffering, would even that be enough? It's like feeling the need to be up to snuff on the epic of Gilgamesh before going to Sunday school. It's obviously a compulsion, just wish there was a way to help with it.

>>3911976
SMB2 is great! Try it man!

>>3915638
That pretty much sums up how the psychologists were.

Eh, luckily I could care less if I read books out of order. I think I remember coming across that in the past. Having forced myself to do it to touch various games for years, I just loathe reading, because I know it will be a lengthy series that takes months whereby I need to devote any time to reading to get past it. I am a terribly slow reader, often procrastinating by doing other things. Lurking the internet helps pass a lot of time and help me keep my sanity intact.

>>3915647
Trust me, I know it isn't the most needed of things and is crippling, but it just is bothersome to stop. It causes emotional breakdowns. It is like losing a pet or having your entire world turned on your head because you skipped potentially something that could be useful to your knowledge of the world.

Really the source books of DnD weren't too bad. Long, but not bad. Even the modules I read were efficient enough to get through. My main headache would be when I would get a 300 page bestiary, need to read two magazines released that month, and read a novel based on DnD. One of The Dragon releases in 1980 or 1981 has a panel where they show a lot of the latest games being released inspired by DnD. That is what killed it, realizing I would have that many dungeon crawling games (not a big fan of the genre, so it doesn't help) before I could continue on my slow and tedious goal. You would think I would be happy, it was the first game I could play in a year, but it just revealed how much more daunting it was than I had even planned. What was to prevent another such panel from appearing next issue? I just couldn't handle having to devote even more time to it.

The saddest part is when you realize how little you really took away from all of it. I remember some modules involving Drow, but good luck having me remember half the stuff I read. As I read just to get through it, I forget most of what I read, making it almost worthless.

>>3915667
>not starting with the epic of Gilgamesh
>not proceeding to Illiad & Odyssey, followed by pre-socratic philosophy and Plato & Aristotle whole corpus, and relevant Greek drama
>not studying the Biblical canon, stoic & epicurean philosophy, roman law and literature
>not reading all of Augustine, medieval romance and scholastic philosophy
>etc.

get gud

>>3915679
>It is like losing a pet or having your entire world turned on your head because you skipped potentially something that could be useful to your knowledge of the world.

The way I approach these things is I start with what looks most interesting regardless of whether it's the beginning of whatever it is. Then if I end up really liking it I know I can go back to the begnning and if I don't I can just move along to the next thing.

I know I'll never be able to read/watch/play/do everything I want before I die, so I just see that as a practical approach.

The thing with bestiaries and a lot of modules is they're not really meant to be read straight through like that. They're reference guides so the DM can look things up. If you were just playing you could be actually discouraged from reading them so you didn't learn too much.

>>3915690
For those who can't into ancient Greek, the Fagles translations of The Illiad and The Odyssey are excellent and should be read by everyone.

Illiad especially makes just about every action movie released look like baby's tea time. Achilles killing so many Trojans they try to escape him by running into the river where he kills so many that the river gets clogged with bodies angering the god of the river itself who tries to drown him. But with a prayer and more anger a pillar of flame erupts from his head, drying up the river so he can continue routing the entire Trojan army all on his own.

And all cause they fucked with his boyfriend... Poor Hector...

>>3915695
Yeah, I guess the problem with that is that I might chose a part I dislike when good parts were around it. Plus, as I said, even trying something later ends up bothering me to the point I heavily regret it. I tried that with the Elder Scrolls series, played Morrowind after not being a fan of Arena. Found it pretty good, but then hated myself for not seeing the lore of the earlier games to the point that I didn't want to touch the game.

Trust me, I know that. I just hate rushing, it causes stress to the point I dislike any game. So I try to keep a slow pace, but then need to play in a particular order or suffer a breakdown. I admit there are numerous flaws with it. It is like someone who smokes and wishes to quit, they can't just quit, and trying to stop will result in heavy withdrawals. As the point of games is enjoyment, it pretty much ruins any enjoyment of a game I try to avoid doing chronological ordering on.

I am aware of that. My goal was learning as much as I could about DnD, not actually play the game, as I don't have any real life friends I could play with if I wanted to. That is what made it so horrible, it wasn't even materials intending to be read like a normal book, resulting in a lot of boredom as you read stats for a game you don't even have the ability to play. I was essentially doing all the work of DnD, besides setting up my own dungeons as a DM, with none of the play. At least a regular book is meant to be read in a regular fashion.

>>3915715
Dang, other than more therapy and someone good at specifically helping with OCD I don't really have anything helpful to say.

The thing with quitting smoking and withdrawal is that the symptoms are a good thing showing that your body is fighting to change. In the case of what you're doing it's a similar pain but you're causing it all yourself.

>>3915750
Exactly, just something I have been trying to work with. It is a painful struggle for something as simple as games.

Yes, indeed, that is the sad part. It is all mental. There is no reason why I couldn't stop this, I should be able to play what I want. But yet it is such a mental roadblock, one that I seem to be struggling to avoid.

literally how do i get gud at mario? i love SMB2 but could never get into SMB1 or 3. this affects me on all time-driven mario games, such as the NSMB and SM3D.

i just like exploring the levels without being rushed.

>>3915714
>achilles and patroclus were gay
>the ancient greek mentor/mentee relationship involved anal penetration
god, i'm so sick of this meme. literally all they did was push the young boy's thighs together and fuck that. there was no anal penetration or dick-sucking.

>>3917870

unless you're absurdly slow you will almost never run out of time

>>3917891
i can beat the level without running out of time, i just would prefer to explore warp pipes and stuff at a slower pace. i can't get into the "rhythm" of SMB; i often have to turn around to stomp a goomba, since i don't get it the first time.

i would really like to enjoy mario, though

>>3917890
Wow that sure triggered you hard. Why bring up the buttsex? Anyways, Achilles was at least bisexual. After all it's Agamemnon taking Briseis for himself that pissed off Achilles enough that he was going to let the Trojans win the war just to spite him. But it was Hector mistakenly killing Patroclus that actually sets him off and makes him go fight even though he knows through prophecy that it will be the death of him.

>>3911913
>mfw I went straight from Castlevania to Dracula's Curse, and will probably never pick up Simon's Quest
Also, you're doing yourself a huge disservice skipping 2; it's a lot of fun!

>>3915679
>I could care less

>>3911976

>>3912035
That is literally the most legitimate and official cart I have ever seen.

>>3917870
>>3917909
Feels like you're playing a platformer with a approach of a RPG, there's no much need for exploring in 2D Mario besides some ocasional split paths (like in SMW or NSMB), there's no need to collect all the Dragon Coins (SMW) or Star Coins (NSMB/SM3D) in one go, just play around running and doing cool stuff, when you finish the game then just go back and collect all the stuff back, it doesn't hurts your experience this way.

>>3915658
>want to get into Aristotle
>need to read everything Plato first
>need to read everything Socrates before that
>fucker didn't right anything down and Plato's accounts are dubious

REEE

>>3917890
This was the common narrative but we all know butt play was happening behind closed doors.

I often play whole game series from worst to best. This way I'm not getting disappointed in the next installment.

>>3921312
But then you would need to trust others anons/reviewers for a list
>Not taking your own conclusions and instead being a bandwagoning fag

the only games I play in chronological order are games I know are actual sequels to eachother
Zelda and Mario games, hell even Final Fantasy and Dragon Quest games are all self-contained stories that you can play in any order

I don't have crippling autism that a lot of 4chan users seem to have with video games.

I don't need to play every entry of a video game series, I don't need to play them in order, I don't need to collect every single little item, I don't need to waste my life getting that one last weapon or spell.

>>3915621
>>3915679
>>3915715
This is one of the biggest case of OCD I ever read.