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>Rondo of Blood
>Mega Man
>Mega Man X

They all got 3D remakes. And you know what? They're good. Take the Rondo Remake for example. Great art style, great colors, great new content, plays well, etc.

But the problem is that they are not the originals. Which means I'm always gonig to compare them to the originals, and not on their own merit. And the visuals are kind of a step down. The PSP just isn't strong enough to make 3D that has more detail than 2D.

Instead, they should have made new games in the same style, but with new story, characters and levels. That way it doesn't directly compete with the originals.

>> No.3905710

Maverick Hunter X fucking sucks you retard

>> No.3905718

they kind of made a 3D remake of star ocean 1 for PSP

they took probably the ultimate form of star ocean, and shaped star ocean 1 in star ocean 2's image. I'd honestly say that I enjoyed most of first departure more than I enjoyed the original, aside from the areas where there's just miles and miles and miles of overworld between cities/towns/whatever

shame the characters all got that weird flat animu portrait treatment that can't actually scale past the PSP's resolution

>> No.3905739

>>3905704
>Instead, they should have made new games in the same style, but with new story, characters and levels. That way it doesn't directly compete with the originals.

That would have been way more work and probably made the whole project not economically feasible. I agree the remake doesn't look as good as the original or nearly as good as would have been possible to do given the PSP's hardware but I understand why they did it the way they did and like the result.

It was pretty sweet to put the original on there as well.

>> No.3905742

>>3905704
I don't believe you. 3D graphics in 2D games sucks

Gonna go emulate them so i can go all contrarian on yo ass

>> No.3905757

>>3905742
enjoy your shitty dracula fight in rondo

>> No.3905765

>>3905704
I tried the chibi megaman and hated it. Why must they alter the games so much. I'd rather they enhance the graphics to better quality and not completely alter them. A good example is Zelda OOT 3D.

>> No.3905834

>>3905757
I plan on doing MMX cause it's my fav of those 3 games


>>3905765
A good example is Wild Guns Reloaded

>> No.3905876
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>>3905704
>>Mega Man
>>Mega Man X
>
>They all got 3D remakes. And you know what? They're good.

NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO

>> No.3905878

>>3905704
Also, not mentioning that Ghouls n Ghosts game you FUCKING RETARD. YOU HAVE SHIT FUCKING TASTE. THROW AWAY YOUR VIDEOGAMES, YOU FUCKING SCUM.

>> No.3905895

>>3905878
>Also, not mentioning that Ghouls n Ghosts game

Not a remake. It's a genuine new game.

>> No.3905897

>>3905834
Played a little of Maverick Hunter and this does seem good. The game doesn't do stupid shit I see in many 2d games with 3d graphics.


I also think the FOV may be smaller somehow, but I could be wrong.
But I don't like the music, SNES is better.

>> No.3905898

>>3905704
people give rondo 3d way too much shit.
i think it looks fine and it's a fun game, even then you can get the original and sotn all in one game.

>>3905878
that's a new game, not a remake.

>> No.3905915

This thread just informed me that the Rondo remake also contains SoTN. I feel like such an idiot right now...

>> No.3905925

>>3905897
There is one huge selling point of the remake after you beat the game.

You get to play through the game again as Vile, and he plays completely differently from X.

There's also an anime OVA you unlock that's a prequel to the game, showing how Sigma's revolt started.

A real shame that the two selling points of the remake are something you can watch on YouTube and something you have to beat the game to use, but oh well. Base game is definitely worse than the SNES original but that extra secret is worth checking out at least once.

>>3905915
The Symphony remake redubs the voices and lets you play as Maria, too. I don't know if the extra Saturn levels are in it, but you definitely have more to play with than the original release.

>> No.3905927

>>3905915
it's pretty neat.
has some extra stuff like the singing fairy and all that.
there's only one thing that might bug someone though
alucard is voiced by yuri lowenthall

>> No.3905934

>>3905927
>yuri lowenthall
I'd never heard of him before this and the new dub wasn't good, but it's sure better than the old one. v

>> No.3905941

>>3905934
people kind of have a problem with him since he's in everything and he kinda does the same voice for everyone.
whether that's because he's forced to or that's just all he can do is up in the air.

>> No.3905947

>>3905941
I get that, I did just look up him IMDB and yeah that's a shit ton of stuff, I just haven't seen most of it.

Though he's also credited for doing Alucard in the 1997 release also. Is that a typo or did he do a new recording?

>> No.3905949

The redub for SOTN sucks ass compared to the hammy original. Alucard sounds too boyish in the PSP redub and I hate that Dracula doesn't yell in a shakespearean tone

>> No.3905950

>>3905947
I'm pretty sure the voice of alucard was by the same guy who did chris redfield in RE1

>> No.3905953

>>3905950
>>3905947
https://youtu.be/QYtl9JTAapU

Here's an actual audio interview with the guy himself, he talks about how strange dubbing was back in the 90s.

>> No.3905957

>>3905950
How shocking that imdb has wrong information!

>>3905953
Thanks I'll check it out. For all it's extreme cheeziness I have a soft spot for YOU DON'T BELONG IN THIS WORLD

>> No.3905958
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3905958

>caring about the dub in SOTN

holy fuck, who cares about either the old or new dub?
The good thing about PSP SOTN is that you can select the original japanese voice acting with english subs.

>> No.3905959

Mega Man powered up lets you play as the bosses but the graphics are horrid and the music remixes are trash

Maverick Hunter X is alright

Dracula X Chronicles kicks fucking ass and is the best version of the game

>>3905878
Ultimate Ghosts and Goblins is a 100% new game that isn't even structured the same. The extra lives work entirely different and arthur gets metroid like upgrades that let him go back to previous levels and find new secrets.

>> No.3905976

>>3905925
>>3905934
I much prefer the older dub, now that I've started the newer version. The older one is hammy and cheesy but totally in the right way. It's also a lot more dramatic. Not that I'm complaining; I bought Dracula X chronicles on the Vita store and I'm just happy I have SoTN for free now. Such a good buy.

I still prefer playing the original on PS1 on my big CRT but portable OLED sure is nice.

>> No.3906002

What exactly was Capcom's goal with those remakes?

Did they plan on remaking all of them and sales wasn't there?

>> No.3906036

>>3905949
>hammy original.

Only Richter and Dracula are hammy. Alucard's voice acting is actually pretty good.

>> No.3906039

>>3906002

Yeah. It's obvious they wanted to reboot the series. They were also completely stupid for selling them ONLY on the PSP, and not NDS and 3DS.

>> No.3906043

>>3905958
>Norio Wakamoto
>Raoh
He only voiced him for one fucking episode before the character even had a name and finalized design.

>>3906002
>Did they plan on remaking all of them and sales wasn't there?
Pretty much. Days of Sigma retcons a few things from the original Mega Man X (like killing off Dr. Cain pretty early)

>> No.3906053

>>3905925
>I don't know if the extra Saturn levels are in it
It doesn't. Nor the extra gear, music, or enemies. All you get is a gimped Maria mode which is shit compared to how she played in the Saturn version.

>> No.3906058

>>3906053
>All you get is a gimped Maria mode which is shit compared to how she played in the Saturn version.

Maria Saturn is a bizzare kung fu master, and INSANELY OP. PSP maria has the same powers as the original, which makes sense.

>> No.3906087

>>3905953
Does this show any real footage of Belgrade? After hearing his amazingly deep voice for nearly two decades I built up an image of him being this guy with a superhero like body and I don't want that illusion shattered.

>> No.3906093

>>3905958
>Raoh

I don't think it's fair to list that as if it were a notable role for him when he only voiced like two actual lines before it got swapped to someone else. Also where the fuck is MD Geist?

>> No.3906098

>>3905704
>Maverick Hunter X
>good

lol

>> No.3906106

>>3905953

>I've never played a video game in my life

Not even SotN? I would have imagined he'd like to play to at least hear yourself.

>> No.3906139

>>3905704
I think all of those remakes completely ruined the physics and thus the feel of their respective titles they were based on. In other words: They're trash.

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>>3905704
>And the visuals are kind of a step down.
>Stretches the PSP's 400x244 resolution to 1920x1088
>Maaaan, this looks so bad

Even disregarding the fact that you're complaining about nothing in the rest of the post, you're a fucking mouthbreather.

>> No.3906169

>>3906167
>listening to a man who got stopped by a bunch of children throwing oranges

>> No.3906218

>>3905704
3D Rondo looks like shit but it plays surprisingly well and the new details it adds are interesting.

>> No.3906221

>>3905704
3D rondo is kinda shit. I found the controls to be slow, or not as responsive as they should be. Better off playing the OG.

>> No.3906228
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3906228

>mfw the MMX remake gives a tiny bit of characterization to the Mavericks, then kills them off

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>>3906228
>mfw people even bother reading the dialog to any side-scrolling MM game

Even as a kid with no standards for movies/TV I thought the story for these games were painfully trite and asinine.

>> No.3906237

Why are there no RoB rom hacks that add the content they added in the 3D remake to the original game?

>> No.3906305

>>3906228
well it's not like it started right there.
x4 started with the enemies chatting with you before the fight.
i was honestly pretty excited with the prospect of the maverick hunter games, but then it just died.

>> No.3906319

Does Castlevania Legacy of Darkness have the original story/single-player mode for the 2 protags of Castlevania N64?

>> No.3906337
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>>3906043
>>3906093

I didn't make that pic, regardless Wakamoto is still boss and better than any of the english Dracula VAs by a million miles.

>> No.3906339

>>3906319
Yes, but the level designs are altered for them.

Think of LoD as CV64: Remix with an expansion pak.

>> No.3906413

>>3905958
>no mechazawa
>no coach

disappoint

>> No.3906457

Dunno about DXC, and you could make an argument against Maverick Hunter X, but Powered Up is vastly superior to the original MM1. It's freed of so many poorly conceived design choices but not the floaty shooty platforms, what the fuck, why are they still here that were present in the original.

>> No.3906586

>>3905704
>And you know what? They're good.


"no"

>> No.3906607

>>3905710

Can you play as vile in the SNES version?

>> No.3906639

>>3906607

Why would you want to? Vile is lame as shit unless you're 9 years old. Same goes for the character he was based on.

>> No.3906762

>>3906639

So can you play as vile in the snes version?

>> No.3906765

>>3906762
No.

>> No.3906782

>>3906765

Then why the fuck would anyone consider the SNES version as better?

Music preference is a valid subjective point, but the fact that the psp version gives you a huge new chunk of gameplay means a lot more in a direct comparison.

>> No.3906831

>>3906782
Does the PSP version include the original sprite graphics? Or a port of the original like DXC.

>> No.3906917

Powered Up was a great remake,

>> No.3907084

>>3906232
Why didn't the evil robots just fucking nuke everything?

>> No.3907109

>>3906831

No it's all 3d, and new music. If that's not your thing that's a fine bone to pick.

>> No.3907141

>>3907084
Funny story is in the prologue OVA you can unlock (or just watch online) they really do launch a shitload of nukes before the game starts. All the stages are implied to be areas of tactical worth to the Mavericks and so they're trying to take them over instead of nuking them.

Which actually kind of makes sense. They're robots, so of course they'd raid and take over places like the factory and power plant you fight Flame Mammoth and Spark Mandrill in.

>> No.3907162

>>3906831
It contains the original Rondo of Blood as an unlockable, but no Dracula X

>> No.3907203

>>3905898
That's the biggest point. Original Rondo and Symphony are included with it, which was just really, really cool of them.

How they play compared to the originals, though, that I haven't done a good comparison of...

>> No.3907206

>>3905958
i really fucking hate weebs

>> No.3907241

>>3907206
what a coincidence, i really fucking hate amateur english voice actors.

I don't even watch anime but I still know who Norio Wakamoto is. Wakamoto is god-tier voice acting. He's like Morgan Freeman, Arnold Schwarzenegger, and Darth Vader all rolled into one.

>> No.3907248

>>3905959
The japanese rerelease later plays like an actual G&G game at least.

>> No.3907251

>>3907206
>wanting stuff in their original language with eng subs is weeb

ok

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Rondo 3D is okay. I think it also looks okay for a PSP game.