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What's the best handheld for emulation?

Depending on the generation of consoles to emulate and in general.
What are the pros and cons of each? Are there any hidden gems that aren't well known?

>> No.3902856

Are hacked PSPs still relevant? I use one and Id would say its the best for /vr/ systems

>> No.3902858

>>3902856
Doesn't the PSP have problems with SNES emulation?

>> No.3903058

>>3902816
There's gorillions of them out there nowadays, the GPD Win is probably among the best simply because of Windows. But even tho I love mine, i'm not a big fan of the form factor, check, I'm personally thinking on getting a JXD s5800, but i'm not sure how powerful it is, i'm sure that since it's Android it should at least be able to do up to PS2 just fine.

Overall most emulation machines now are Android base, but you still have things like the GCW Zero, and Dingoo consoles for 8 and 16-bit emulation or homebrew games, and the Dragonbox Pyra is coming out sometime this year hopefully, which IMO is a hair better than the GPD Win even tho it's ARM and it doesn't run botnet 10.

>>3902856
They're still relevant but there's far better devices out there at this point.

>> No.3903081

>>3903058
>JXD s5800
I remember Ashens had a review of a JXD unit.
I know there are shitloads of those, not to mention the Dingoo clones.

>most emulation machines now are Android
It's a shame though, Android isn't the best platform for that kind of things, they should just run Linux, unless they are like the Win and have a x64 CPU.

>Dragonbox Pyra
If it comes out... the price is crazy though, over 600€ in retail and it's still a weak ARM machine and quite bulky.

>> No.3903084

>>3902816
Not related to the topic but the pic.
Is Zelda II Shadow of Night a good game(romhack)? Original was kind of lacking.

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>>3903058
>but you still have things like the GCW Zero, and Dingoo consoles for 8 and 16-bit emulation or homebrew games
gp2x,wiz,caanoo still alive

>> No.3903106

>>3903081
JXD is just another chink knock off company like GPD, but the s5800 in particular seems rather nice, pretty much an Android PSP, so I like it just due to form factor.

>Android isn't the best platform for that kind of things

It's not from a performance perspective, but it's free and has tons of software already written for it, so it's convenient just due to that.
Besides running a desktop version of Linux limits you a bit on how you have to design the device, Android's interface is optimized for touch out of the box, so they can just worry about the gaming controls.

And the Dragonbox Pyra is a hard sell, I know, but they hope to start shipping this year, and it's an expensive investment off the bat, but they say that they won't be making more full devices from now on, they've designed it to be fully upgradable, which means (in theory) that it will never be obsolete. The project manager even said it's possible they or someone else could release an x86 compatible CPU board at some point. Also I guess if they keep selling the base model as is, it will get cheaper after a while, unlike the Pandora.

>>3903104
Yes, I've never used them or don't know much about them in general, so I didn't tough I'd mention them, but there's def a lot of cool handheld devices out there, with a niche but dedicated community.

>> No.3903150

>>3903106
>JXD is just another chink knock off company like GPD
I wouldn't call them really knock off companies, they focus on their products and try to innovate, like with the Win being x86, while true JXD as I just saw did design some of their units like PSP and Vitas and GPDs XD might resemble a DS too.

>Besides running a desktop version of Linux limits you a bit on how you have to design the device
Than again if you look at the OpenPandora it had a quite nice interface made for itself.
Nothing against Android if they offer it with root access, unlocked bootloader and driver sources for the community to mess around with.

Also I have heard of emulators on Android having more problems like input lag.

>Dragonbox Pyra
I just find that they are a little slow to the party now with chinks doing everything for cheaper, might even say better some ways, they took to long after the Pandora to jump back on the horse. As their idea at first was to build a better emulation device in the image of GP32 that at the time devices like that weren't as popular as they are now.

>> No.3903173

>>3902856
It's probably the cheapest, simplest option that's not complete garbage

>>3902858
It has problems but I wouldn't call that a dealbreaker. I've played a bunch of SNES games on mine, most recently Super Metroid, with minimal issues. But there's a good chunk of the library that's unplayable.

But I'm willing to put up with that when every PS1 games I've tried runs perfectly.

>> No.3903175

I use PSVita. Good OLED display and can perfectly run almost all emulators.

>> No.3903187

>>3903175
Nah its actually worse than a psp. Cant do ps1 games and snes still has slowdown out the wazoo.

>> No.3903189

>>3903175
>>3903187
FIGHT!

>> No.3903238

I've been using a Dingoo A320 for years, but at this point definitely don't be one of those.

I just wanted to brag about putting a GBA speaker in it. All the GBA games sound great I love it.

>> No.3903239

>>3903238
*don't get one of those.

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>>3903238

>> No.3903245

>>3903242
Dingoo ate my baby!

>> No.3903280

>>3903245
And a wallaby rooted me mate in the arse, crikey!

>> No.3903365

>>3903150
I haven't really had much experience with Android emulators, so I couldn't tell you.

And yes, they're slow as fuck, and it's a very small team. But they're making a niche product, with a small thing, that it's still cool in it's own way.
IMO I don't think anything by GPD or JXD or Dingoo could ever compete with the Pandora in built quality and long term support. I mean, they're still updating that thing's software, and making replacement parts, after like a decade, and they plan to keep on doing so, and considering the Pyra will be fully modular, i'm sure it will have a, even if small, very dedicated cult following for a while.

>> No.3903368

>>3903238
I'd probably get one just because i'm a freaking hoarder, and I really like these dumb emulation machines. But i'm not sure where you'll even get one of those at this point, Aliexpress?

>> No.3903397

Can a jxd s5800 run PS2 games?

>> No.3903450

xperia play is the best phone i ever brought

>> No.3903459

Oh boy. Another /vr/ shill thread. Let's conveniently ignore the fact that this thread gets reposted on a weekly basis, and that it's always the same PR.

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>>3902816
The best is always going to be the Razer Edge.

Can actually handle Snes best emulator unlike the psp. Can handle all the way to Cube and Wii unlike the gpd win or similar x5/x7 devices.

>> No.3903462

A modded PSP-1000 is the most practical and affordable solution. Ignore the GPD shills. Android emulation is shit.

>> No.3903504

>>3903460
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zHGIHYidr_g

>> No.3903639

>>3903187
Are the PS1 games released on the system ports? I thought it was emulation.

>> No.3903643

>>3902856
Top tier psx emulation alone makes it worthwhile

>> No.3903653

>>3903460
How does it stack up against nvidia shield K1?

>>3903643
psx emulation is great even on my $50 noname tablet.
Either with PCSX Rearmed or epsxe but there is something with snes games that I havent seen them working full speed on any device apart from pc.

>> No.3903827

>>3903368
I can't find even the newer models anywhere anymore

>> No.3903856

What portable device can emulate up to the PS2 and manage to keep.most games playable?

>> No.3903863

>>3903462

Android can perfectly emulate everything the PSP can emulate, and emulate the PSP itself. Shit, DraStic on android is acknowledged as the best DS emulator on any platform. Not to mention the growing library of native Android adaptations of many retro classics. You PSP diehards really need a reality check.

>> No.3903864

>>3903856
A good laptop.

>> No.3903876

>>3903058
Linux will never be better for gaming than windows. Open morrowind helps, but no. The pyra may be a tad more powerful but it cant play skyrim or ps2 emulation, which the gpd win can. Itso $200+ more expensive and has a bulky desing. The only upside is ports lots and lots of ports.

>> No.3903898

>>3903863

Feel free to upload a video of yourself running PSP games on your Android device at full speed with no glitches. Let's see some perfect DS emulation as well. And no, not some cheap 2D platformer or puzzle games that could be emulated on a toaster oven.

>> No.3903905

Should I bother with a gcw zero? I do love muh opensource but I already have a vita.

>> No.3904040

>>3903876
>Linux will never be better for gaming than windows.
Then how come Valve games have better performance under GNU than Wangblows?

>> No.3904302

>>3903365
Build quality wise there isn't really a difference, while the OpenPandora looks visually worse quality wise than something like a Win, even though in raw strength it might hold up better just because it's bulkier and bigger, the Win again has better quality parts in general

>> No.3904316

>>3903460
Win can handle GameCube and most of the Wii
You can't really compare the two because one is a 10 inch tablet with gamepads on it's sides and the other is a 5 inch foldable handheld

Not to mention it's ridiculous price

>> No.3904336

>>3903864
This

>> No.3904340

>>3903876
>The pyra may be a tad more powerful but it cant play skyrim or ps2 emulation, which the gpd win can.
On what planet are you on? The Pyra is not even a fraction as powerful as the Win

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3904357

What do you think of the Smack Z?

They say they will have "z-pads" to place onto the stream controller pads to simulate a dpad and buttons(with different layouts, like for GameCube, N64 or NES) so they have thought of it being for emulation also even when primary focusing on a PC gaming handheld.

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/smachteam/smach-z-the-handheld-gaming-pc

>> No.3904380

>>3903905
If you want to mess around with it, why not?

>> No.3904395

>>3904340
>on what planet are you on?

excuse me, im an officer from the redundant department of redundancy department, I'd like you to come with me.

>> No.3904410

Psp is great amd pretty cheap. Android + gamepad is superior, but arguable less portable. Android handles everything psp can at higher resolutions with more compatible emulators. On top of that it has great Ds, mame, and psp emulator. Expect gamecube to be running smooth within a few years

>> No.3904431

>>3904040
You can list 2 games running better on Linux for each 1000 I can list running better on Windows, so no, there is no reason to even consider Linux for a gaming PC/plataform.

>> No.3904583

>>3904431
Linux fanbois are too stubborn to see behind the curtain of logic

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>>3903459
Shilling what? Could I see some links to the old threads?

>> No.3904707

>>3904357
This sort of thing has been talked about pretty often but I have yet to see a project like this actually move out of the idea phase.
I have no idea how the whole z-pad idea is going to work out but I'm not sure if they could be 1:1 replicas. If they can't, it's kind of useless as a 2D playing handheld.

>> No.3904843

100$ish windows tabtet and some tablet gamepad mouth

You can always chose win over android (I believe there is no Microsoft tax if your display size below some inch values)

Years ago android emulation was really horrible to audio lag

If you are portable emulator enthusiast - I would recommend building a piboy or similar device

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>>3903058
Win is the comfiest

>> No.3905087

>>3903876
And the fact that it will be upgradable, which the Win isn't.

Linux is definitely good for gaming, not worst than Windows 10 at any rate.

>> No.3905102

>>3905087
Its worse just because it lacks a huge portion of the native PC game library

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>>3903365
>>3903106
>>3905087
I want to see them actually releasing any upgrades, not to mention the device itself, as it has been in "development" for years and being outdated as fuck already, I bet the "upgrades" will be the same.
Also, 600 eur for the basic version?

I have been waiting for years after the Pandora, specially because I couldn't get my hands on one thanks to them fucking up their sales, waiting for the Pyra I have lost all hope for it.

>> No.3905141

>>3904594
Ramonas hot as fuck

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>>3905141
3D Ramona is better

>> No.3905183

>>3903876
Is the win able to emulate the ps2? (I mean stuff like ffx, not the puzzle bobble collection)

>> No.3905191

>>3905183
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YGJVu9LKs3w

>> No.3905215

>>3903081
I'm really interested in seeing what AMD will have to offer in the next generation of mobile APU's running under Linux. The new open-source drivers are rapidly improving and pretty awesome. Vulkan is going to be a huge boon for mobile emulation and Linux gaming in general...

>> No.3905221

>>3905215
and Windows :^)

>> No.3905232

>>3905221
Not really? Windows drivers have always been the status-quo so any boost in frame-rate isn't going to change much.

On the Linux side, now that games will be running on Vulkan under Windows and that's natively supported under Linux, you will no longer have the overhead from porting games from DirectX to OpenGL.

The Vulkan drivers are also a lot simpler than OpenGL, so it'll be easier for Linux developers to reach parity on features and performance.

One of the main benefits of Vulkan is its multi-threading, which allows it to take advantage of the multiple weaker CPU cores on mobile. It'll also make drivers across different devices and platforms far more consistent and reliable, especially now they have proper conformance testing.

>> No.3905241

>>3905232
But Linux isn't going to gain any benefits over it that Windows already does not have

>> No.3905256

>>3905241
Yep, but this will finally allow Linux to be competitive on performance. When Valve got Left 4 Dead 2 running faster under Linux than Windows, it was enough to scare Microsoft into creating DirectX 12.

You have to keep in mind that Microsoft has been consistently losing to Linux/BSD/Android in every market that isn't the laptop/desktop. Even when it comes to gaming, the PS4 and Switch are both running FreeBSD variants...

>> No.3905262

>>3905256
>Even when it comes to gaming, the PS4 and Switch are both running FreeBSD variants...
That's more of a licensing thing.

XBone runs Windows.

>> No.3905282

>>3905262
Of which they are the weakest of the three when it comes to sales, that's what I mean by consistently losing.

>> No.3905284

>>3905282
They are still strong on the PC gaming front though

>> No.3905290

>>3902858
Both SNES and GBA.
But PSP is pretty much perfect with PS1.

>> No.3905301

>>3903104
>i gave this company $600 so that i could program an edgy hate message to their userbase and show it on the console i bought

wew

>> No.3905302

>>3905284
I'm just interested in seeing if Valve will make a another push on the Steam Machines, they've gone ahead and hired a bunch of AMD graphics driver developers. It's hard for me to assume that they'd invest in the ecosystem like that out of sheer altruism...

>> No.3905310

>>3902816
PSP go
LME infinity
DS3 controller
component cable

Cheap and it just werks, the Wii of handheld emu

>> No.3905313

>>3903106
The GP2X and Pandora were pretty awesome back in their hey-day, but definitely not relevant any more.

>> No.3905319

>>3905301
you don't need a Pandora to program for it

>> No.3905412

>>3905052
How's the performance of PS2 games ?

>> No.3905416

>>3905412
Depends on game, check youtube of people testing/playing stuff

>> No.3905517
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>>3905052
>atari st emulator

>> No.3905521

>>3905517
To play Disc (from Loriciel)

>> No.3905541

>>3905521
There's an Amiga version though.

>> No.3905550

>>3905541
Shh, maybe he doesn't know it

>> No.3905575

>>3905550
Basically every Atari ST game has a better Amiga version. The only exception is shareware games really.

>> No.3905580

>>3905575
I agree, do you actually know of any examples that where Atari ST only, retail games not shareware

>> No.3905583

>>3905580
No, I don't think there are any really.

>> No.3905696

>>3902816
I use my N3DS and I haven't had many major issues with it. It can emulate most games up to 16bit full speed and games render nicely on the screen. It's also my preferred way to play GBA games since they are backwards compatible and the buttons are better than what you'd find on a DS or GBA. The only 16bit game that gave me issues Yoshi's Island, but it's running much more smoothly now on bubbles SNES9x port. MAME is hit or miss, but it can play CPS1&2 Capcom fighters full speed. 32x, GBA, Sega CD, and PS1 games emulate like shit. It's screen isn't great, but emulation across the board is more consistent than the Vita, and the homebrew scene for the Vita is dead as far as I'm concerned.

>> No.3905698

>>3905696
>It's also my preferred way to play GBA games since they are backwards compatible
This. It's a great system, it's pretty cool how it's binary compatible with the GBA. The only reason they removed GBA support from the DSi onward was because they couldn't fit the slot, it doesn't have a separate processor for those games.

>> No.3905713

>>3905696
>>3905698
IIRC you can run GBA games in 1:1 native scaling too?

>> No.3906096

>>3905713
Yes, just hold select while booting the game

>> No.3907034

>>3905517
To make the Amiga emulator feel even more superior.

>> No.3907039

The gpd win seems pretty cool desu. It can do emulators, some older AAA games and Indies too? I saw a vid of someone playing dark souls on it which makes me want one so bad.
Hows the battery life on it? And do they come out with new models?

>> No.3907047

>>3907039
Dark Souls is such a bad port, runs like shit.
While Dark Souls 2 runs great.

Depends what you do, you can get 3 hours doing heavy gaming like AAA titles and 5 hours doing playing less demanding games and running emulators, even GameCube, even more if you just do SNES, NES or shitpost online with it, up to 7-8 hours.

They had revisions that fixed things but no new models. Except the Pocket, but that's not a gaming device.

>> No.3907067

>>3907047
That's pretty cool, do most GameCube games play at full speed?
They should make a new model with more than one sd card slot
And steam in home streaming works with it too right? All the controls work just fine? It would be cool as fuck to be able to play all my retro games and dark souls in bed

>> No.3907083

>>3907067
GameCube games work great.
You can use a USB 3.0 flash drive with it too, to expand the storage further, one of those low profile ones that doesn't stick out much.

Yeah, In-Home streaming works great, it has a good WiFi chipset in it, the only thing the controls lack is pressure sensitive L2/R2 buttons and non-clicky thumbsticks, the L3/R3 are mapped to buttons.

>> No.3907115

>>3907067
>They should make a new model with more than one sd card slot

>slightly bigger, maybe half a inch on both sides
>M3 Pentium chip instead of Atom
>clickable thumbsticks
>built in at least 128/256GB eMMC
>8GB RAM
>backlit keyboard
>bigger battery/custom battery taking advantage of all the free space
>maybe a 4G modem

do want

>> No.3907129

>>3907083
>>3907067
Wait wouldn't it be possible to stream ps4 games on this? It's windows and there is an app for it
Would the controller on the win work?

>> No.3907130

>>3905121
I mean, yes, for now it's just a promise, but I imagine a community of screeching autists will hold them up to it.

>>3905302
I am utterly dissapointed that none of the people that have been invited to Valve these past few days even tought of bringing up the issue of the Steam machines being sort of abandoned.

>>3907047
>>3907067
>>3907083
Since we're talking about the GPD meme, has anyone here have issues running Steam Big Picture on it? It runs like shit on mine, and I don't know why. The controls get all laggy, even tho I don't think the interface itself runs slow. And even if I setup the controller and then use Steam in regular desktop mode, the controls are still laggy in game.

>>3907115
Basically everything the Pyra has over the GPD Win, I agree.

>>3907129
Yes, you can Stream Xbox One, Steam in-home streaming and PS4.

>> No.3907131

>>3907115
Just make it a small tablet (iPad mini or smaller) with a controller and a dedicated gpu (doesn't have to be big) let it be a little thick so you can fit it all in while still making it portable

>> No.3907135

>>3907131

See >>3903460

(also it costed like 2000$ when it was relevant).

>> No.3907149

>>3903460
>Ridiculous price
>Sold out
>Can't find the game pad anywhere
>Out of production
>Completely irrelevant and will never be supported

>> No.3907184

>>3907130
They are still working on the Steam Machines, we keep hearing them talking about significant changes and they keep hiring Linux developers. I think the problem is that they'll be releasing it all in Valve-time, aka. when it's done and severely behind schedule.

>> No.3907220

>>3907129
It is possible and it works

>> No.3907223

>>3907130
>has anyone here have issues running Steam Big Picture on it?
I think if you put the Big Picture mode into a lower resolution than native it works fine, I haven't had any problems with it sofar.

>> No.3907225

>>3907130
>Basically everything the Pyra has over the GPD Win, I agree.
Except a proper x86-64 chip that's impossible to even implement as a module because they didn't account for cooling

>> No.3907398

>>3905290
Apart from the controls, try playing Armored Core.

>> No.3908457

>>3904357
They cant physically do what they are promising

>> No.3908551

>>3907184
They should of had a near final version of SteamOS ready before they announced the project. Unless they're planning to release the hardware themselves, I don't see any PC building companies or whatever they're called getting behind them again.

Also if you could link me to some updates on the project that'd be great because I haven't heard from them in a while. Is SteamOS already functional enough to be ran as a main desktop OS? Because I would actually be willing to try it.

>>3907223
I think it has issues with loading stuff into memory or from memory, but that would be odd because I have Steam installed to the internal memory, that AFAIK is flash.

>>3907225
Well the GPD already has a proper x86-64 CPU.

>> No.3908585

>>3903653
maybe it's because ps1 hardware was more standardized? snes has a lot of games with additional on-board processors so you need to emulate more than the core system.

>> No.3908762

>>3908551
Steam OS was never intended to be and never will be a desktop replacement, it was meant to provide a console-like experience. Where a Windows installation with Big Picture mode has you regularly digging out a mouse and keyboard to deal with dialogs, updates, installation and notifications, Steam OS avoids all that stuff and forces games into full-screen with controller support ready to go.

There's already thousands of Linux desktop distributions if that's what you want, the newers ones will even have better performance and compatibility. Ubuntu is the only one officially supported by Valve, but I would recommend waiting for them to finish the switch to the Gnome desktop environment as that has a Classic mode that's a lot easier to navigate for Windows users.

>> No.3908857

>>3908551
>Well the GPD already has a proper x86-64 CPU.
>the pyra has over the gpd win
Pyra doesn't have a x86 cpu

>> No.3909284

>>3908585
a lot of games? more like 6-7

>> No.3910169

>>3908857
I said that you'd want the GPD successor to have all the things the GPD doesn't have that the Pyra does have.

>> No.3910854

>>3908585
>snes has a lot of games with additional on-board processors so you need to emulate more than the core system
>lot of games
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_FX

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>Be happy GPD meme owner
>Install SA2 from Steam onto it
>Gets really hot
>Hands get kind of sweaty
>Sticks get all slippery
>Game is suddenly twice as hard

Thank god you can replace these. I'll have to look into that.

>> No.3911338

>>3911083
Mine never goes so warm that I could feel it when playing, do you have a early unit?

>> No.3911379

>>3909284
>>3910854
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Super_NES_enhancement_chips
Lot more than 7 games.

>> No.3911390

>>3911338
why is that nobody has even tred to make a failsafe secure design for Win10 tablets

every intel win10 tablet that is not the surface has some critical flaw that can hinder or make the tablet utterly useless.

i bought a Lenovo Miix 310 with the hopes that being a brand win10 tab would be good, but nope!:

>32gb disc only, with the win10 install occuping 95% of the disc
>defective Microsd reader, i tried over 4 Microsds (64gbs) and ALL of them failed to write to the disc or crashed the tablet! (inb4 wrong size, im sure the max size is 128gb.)

it was A FUCKING MIRACLE that i was able to get a refund.

>> No.3911430

>>3911390
this is relevant, how?

>> No.3911437

>>3911430
that every win10 machine that is not the surface or a $2000 device has flaws that makes them unusable, the GPDWin included.

>> No.3911443

>>3911437
how? there are no problems with windows on the gpd win

>> No.3911451

>>3911443
guess you had luck.

>> No.3911453

>>3911451
what problems do you have?

>> No.3911458

>>3911453
none really , i dont have a GPDWin, and im not >>3911083, sorry if i didnt clear that up.

but i was the one who bought that lenovo and got fucked.

>> No.3911460

>>3911458
I see, could be just shitty design from Lenovo's part, the Win has a 64GB storage with 40GB free with just Windows on and I haven't had problems with microSDs, even up to 200GB and I know from others that 256GB cards work too. I guess the majority of devices are fine with fuckups every now a then.

>> No.3911465

>>3911460
yeah, pretty much. i imagine since devices like the lenovo are actually cheap, the manufacturers think that they can get away with poor support and QC. despite being legit brand products.

>> No.3911508

>>3911338
Mine is either second or third batch, it has the 8700, and it doesn't get burning hot or anything, but it gets warm enough to make my palms sweat.

>> No.3912646

>>3911508
lose some weight?

>> No.3912667

>>3912646
I'm already borderline underweight.

>> No.3914517

I just use my phone with a Bluetooth controller. It can't do GameCube or PS2 but so what? I have my PC for that.

Smartphones, even older ones, are very capable emulation devices. Other than DS all the emulators are free thanks to RetroArch.

>> No.3914935

>>3914517
>bluetooth
enjoy your very uneven, quasi-random latency

>> No.3914939

>>3914935
Nice meme, modern gamepads and bluetooth controllers have almost no noticeable latency, I'm talking 1-2ms here.

>> No.3914942

>>3914939
but your smartphone does

>> No.3914949

>>3914942
I don't play with smartphones and controllers.
Android specially has this flaw, screen frames on emulators are sometimes 2-3x behind what they would be on the actual hardware.

>> No.3914957

>>3914949
Android is absolute shit for low-latency stuff. It's why there's only a single competent DAW for it.

Personally, I just use a laptop and a Xbox 360 controller for anything my Dingoo, PSP, 3DS or DS can't handle emulating or that I need in a big screen.

>> No.3914963

>>3914957
>I just use a laptop and a Xbox 360 controller
wish there was something like a laptop handheld with a built in controller

>> No.3914972

>>3914957
>Xbox 360 controller
Kek, the worst /vr/ controller

>> No.3915913

Are the gpd win analog sticks actual analogs or are they those shitty sliding ones like on the psp and 3ds?

>> No.3915915

>>3915913
psp had an actual analog.
>>3914957
Android is the same as Windows. Stop your bullshit/ignorance.
>>3914949
>2-3x
Seriously? 15-25miliseconds vs 5-10. Good luck noticing.

>> No.3916156

>>3915915
Psp slim is what i meant my bad. So yeah is it like psp slim or fat psp analogs? The slim ones break far too fast. If its fat analogs i am going to get a gpd win

>> No.3916706

>>3915913
they are the same sticks as on the vita, just smaller versions of sticks like on playstation or xbox controllers

>> No.3916707

>>3915915
>Android is the same as Windows. Stop your bullshit/ignorance.
Nope, we are talking an actual well known problem here with emulators on Android.

>Seriously? 15-25miliseconds vs 5-10. Good luck noticing.
>It's not a problem guys! Doesn't matter that emulators on other platforms are twice as good! There is no problem reee!!

>> No.3916712

>>3915913
They are actual sticks and not shitty sliding ones.

>>3915915
>psp had an actual analog.
No, all PSPs, Fat and Slim, has sliding sticks.

>> No.3916853

>>3916712
thanks

>> No.3916953

RetroArch has been ported to the Vita. I think it has more potential since recently they discovered how to use hardware acceleration with the Vita GPU.

The old games look very nice on the OLED screen.

You can also play PS1 games fine.

Downsides are:

- You have to be sure that the Vita you buy has low firmware (all Vita's in store have this, but you might struggle getting a second hand nice OLED Vita that hasn't been upgraded)
- The memory cards from Sony are proprietary and expansive.

But so far those are the only real downsides.

>> No.3916959

>>3916953
All that shit seems always so half assed

>> No.3917728

Is there an up-to-date guide for getting GBA roms running native on 3DS?

>> No.3917730

>>3917728
>Step 1
Use this
https://gbatemp.net/threads/release-ultimate-gba-vc-injector-for-3ds.438057/
>Step 2
Install cia file

>> No.3917753

>>3917730
Thanks Anon

>> No.3918891

>>3915915
>psp had an actual analog.
is that what PSP fags tell themselves?

>> No.3918918

>>3902856
If you need PSX support, or don't have a N3DS, then yes.

>>3903058
>Dragonbox Pyra
>Still the same shitty dpad and joystick construction as the Pandora and iControlPad
No thanks. If I was looking for an emulation device is avoid those shitty controls. I'm still miffed the the joysticks are complete ass on my iControlPad, and no number of calibrations or firmware updates could make them quite right (plus they spun, which was terrible), not to mention that I had to glue the D-pad back on. I'd rather get a GPD Win.

>> No.3918920

>>3904707
As long as it has the Steam Controller's haptics it'll be OK at least. I've played through multiple 2D games using the Steam Controller's touchpad in D-pad mode and it was fine once I got the muscle memory down.

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Thoughts on psp vs 3ds? I have both hacked but never used emulators on my 3ds. Personally I never could sacrefice the great library of the ps1 and psp for the 3ds' mediocre library. Still, is it better to just use my psp only for ps1 now?

>> No.3918965

>>3918945
New 3DS is the best portable for retro emulation now. Even o3DS given the fact that it has an optimized (hacky) SNES emulator, and it runs up to Genesis well enough

Now, playing PS1 games is a different matter.

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>>3902816
>>3903058
>>3903876
>>3904340
>>3907130
>>3911083
>>3911443
>>3916712
>>3918918
What's up with all those GPD Win shills?

>> No.3920714

>>3918965
>Now, playing PS1 games is a different matter.
how are PS1 games?

>> No.3920741

>>3903104

I used to be a regular poster on GP32x from 2006 until things sadly died off, was a pretty good community.

I still have my GP32 BLU+ and GP2X ver2.

The GP32 is my go to method for playing doom even today

>> No.3922824

>>3920741
>The GP32 is my go to method for playing doom even today
Fucking awesome

>> No.3923054

Is there ANY device out there today that can play ps2 games like persona 3 fes comfortably?

i was looking into a gdp win, though it doesn't seem like its up to the task. also for devices I already have, anyone know how the galaxy s7 fairs?

>> No.3923116

>>3923054
Persona 4 runs great, does Persona 3 really not work?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NCt2-l3i0iY

>> No.3923135

>>3923054
isnt a psp dirt as cheap and hip as fuck enuff to play persona3 or other playstation games?

>> No.3923681

>>3903104
>caanoo
If only, I broke the analog stick on mine ages ago.

>> No.3923686

>>3903460
>The best is always going to be the Razer Edge.
>
>Can actually handle Snes best emulator unlike the psp. Can handle all the way to Cube and Wii unlike the gpd win or similar x5/x7 devices.
I have a linx vision which is pretty similar and the format is not very comfortable. I'd get a win but the games I'm currently playing wouldn't suite such a small screen.

>> No.3924885

>>3903460
>Can handle all the way to Cube and Wii unlike the gpd win or similar x5/x7 devices.
But Win does GameCube and Wii just fine and costs 8x less and isn't a bug fucking tablet

>> No.3926674

bump

>> No.3927623

>>3923681
My battery is dead on mine. Thought of replacing it with a samsung phone battery of similar spec I got spare but I'd need to file the plastic back a bit and solder some wires.

>> No.3927809

OK oldfags what's the best budget handheld emulator that can play up to 64bit games?

>> No.3928416

>>3927809
wut

>> No.3928430

>>3928416
More bits = more power
Do the math.

>> No.3928437

>>3920714
PS1 Retroarch core doesn't advance at all. It almost doesn't reach full speed, even without sound

>> No.3928661

>>3927809
I can simulate 128bit instructions at 1/2 the speed on a 64bit architecture

>> No.3928717

>>3918945
Vita since it can play ps1 games perfectly now

>> No.3928728

Off topic, but: Which versie of Shenmue (2) should I emulate?

>> No.3928879

>>3928717
What method? I have a vita, but the ps1 emulator is kinda meh. Is there a way to load ps1 games easily like the psp?

>> No.3928898

>>3928879
Adrenaline v3

>> No.3928901

>>3928879
Adrenaline. It's the same as the PSP PS1 emulator.

>> No.3929562

>>3902858
SNES emulation is the PSP's Achilles' Heel. Such a shame, because it's one of the main reasons I wanted one back in the day.

>> No.3929576

>>3929562
The vast majority of games work just fine.

FX Chip, SA-1, and CX4 games don't work well, but most other stuff is fine.

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I've owned a Wikipad since it came out, pic related, and it is very comfy for long trips. It's like a xbox 360 controller but a tad bit bigger

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3929815

>>3929812
but i also have a psp and it is nice because it fits in the pocket. However, it can't do N64, MAME, or DS games

>> No.3930612

What's a reliable website to get a GPD Win?

>> No.3930689

>>3929815
If you dig it, get a Vita. The arcade retroarch core is ported, and it handles some games pretty well. Also, the genesis and non-FX SNES performance is 100% as far as I can see.

>> No.3931805

>>3930689
Vitas can't be universally downgraded yet. Also, there is no sd card converter and I don't want to spend absolutely ludicrous prices for the vita memory. My PSP has 64gb which costed about $25.

>> No.3932378

>>3929576
By vast majority you mean games that didn't push the hardware, right? I remember emulating Killer Instinct, a demanding game that used no special chips, and performance was abysmal. I know that's expecting a bit, but even still.

The main PC SNES emu I used at the time was ZSNES, and even that worked way better for most of the SNES games I played than any of the PSP SNES emus I tried. Then again, it's been almost 10 years since I last owned my PSP, so it's possible emulation has gotten better since then.

>> No.3932504

>>3932378
>so it's possible emulation has gotten better since then
It hasn't.