/vr/ - Retro Games

>>3904625
This doesn't even count as bait.

So you never played X, X2 and X3.

>>3904625

>Megaman games
>"Good"

Pick one OP.

>>3904662
The SNES hardware held those games back desu.

>>3904625
>he fell for the Saturn meme

>>3904713
Well seeing as how X2 and X3 had on board extra hardware, no, no it didn't. Capcom just made stupid choices and tried to shove wireframe graphics into those games for literally no reason.

>>3904715
It's also good on Playstation X if you're a Sonybabby.

>>3904625
Not even halfway trying to be a bait post...

>>3904625

X4, X5, and X6 are ugly bland looking messes.

ITT: Nintendildos upset they lost one of their few good third-party exclusives.

>>3904854
>>3904713

Sup, Australia-kun? Are you gonna start making Rockman shitposting now? Good, give Castlevania some rest.

>>3904854
There was Megaman 64, Megaman games on GBA... the collections were rereleased on Gamecube so they did get X4 5 and 6, what are you even talking about?

>>3904859
>the collections were rereleased on Gamecube
Not retro.

>>3904713
Whatever, console warrior, they're still better than the later X games. I don't even care about console war, I played them all on my modchipped PS2.

>>3904863
Its not really an exclusive if it was rereleased though to them... Nintendo fans got the games.

>>3904865
In the '90s you had no way of playing those games if you were a Nintendo fanboy. Getting them in the future is completely irrelevant. Too bad you missed out some great games because Nintendo fucked up.

>>3904864
>playing poorly emulated retro games on the Shovelware Station 2
Haha, oh wow.

>>3904869
Did a Nintendo fanboy bully you during school that you hold a grudge about them 25 years later?

>>3904873
Wait, they're poorly emulated?
They performed good, the only thing I missed was having the SNES d-pad which is better than the PlayStation's.

>>3904869
I don't know where you live but a playstation and bootleg games were really cheap back in the 90s.
I was a "nintendo fan" but I still had a ps1 with a pile of pirated CDs that costed 5 a piece.
I like X4, but I like the SNES games more.
X5 onwards aren't just that good.

>>3904876
He's just shitposting.

>>3904857
Who is this "Australia-kun" you speak of?

>>3904896
One of /vr/'s worst resident shitposters.
Guy is obsessed with Nintendo.

>>3904625
It's the best Zero game. It's an average Megaman game.

>>3904903
>Guy is obsessed with Nintendo.
I dunno. To me it seems like he just fucks with all console fans, the only thing he really likes is computers, maybe arcades.

>>3904918
From the times I've seen him posting on threads, he seems like a man who hates the fact people grew up with different games than he did.
At first I thought it was just "banter", but as years passed and he kept posting the same stuff over and over I kind of came to the conclusion he has actual problems, he just uses /vr/ to vent.

>>3904739
I am i am iam

>>3904924
Its not banter, hes legit retarded.

>>3904869
Here's the thing, if you're around 20 now (which is the average age of the 4chan userbase) then you weren't really that conscious back in the 90s and spent your childhood in the 00s.
If you actually lived through the 90s, that means you're around 30 (or more) now, and if you're still console warring at that age, well... get your shit together senpai.

>>3904625
The only good Contra game.

>>3904946
The only good Castlevania.

>>3904957
Man, I played this, not because of australia-kun, but because I'm a cv enthusiast, played the MSX game, the arcade game, etc.
The Amiga one is easily the worst Castlevania ever made, the controls are untested, it seems like the devs didn't really knew what they were doing.

Which kinda bothers me since I like Novotrade (guys who did Ecoo), apparently amiga castlevania was coded by them.

>>3904928
No bullying Oster-kun!

>>3904960
Yeah its a terrible game. I just posted that to be funny.

>>3904946
Almost agreed. Shattered Soldier is great too, maybe better. It's structured very similarly to HC in that it mostly just ferries you from setpiece to setpiece as opposed to having lengthy traditional levels, and it gives you multiple weapons to switch between. I strongly recommend it to anyone who likes HC, just be aware that unlike HC, it's hardcore.

>>3904873
You do realize the X collection is mostly comprised of actual ports which is why there is no slowdown in them... right..?

>>3906115
It's still emulation. Enjoy your sloppy seconds, cunt.

>>3906121
Well I actually own carts/discs of them cus I'm a collectorfag, but even so, no. Ports are not emulation you autistic /v/tard.

>>3904625

>>3904713
Agreed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tNbe8O6X2aE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=414ADljCflw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_k5q-17P3cU

>>3906736
And this is why the Sega Genesis never got Mega Man X.

>>3906756
>thinks those don't sound great
why are nintendildos such babies

>>3906763
How are you this delusional?

>>3906756
All kidding aside and to be fair, Capcom in most cases just couldn't into 16-bit sound drivers on either console.
Great compositions, but not up to snuff to what they did in the previous generation and at the arcade. Konami was much better at getting what was needed from both systems at the time.
Case in point:

Street Fighter 2 Arcade:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FM-8Oot-iBE

Street Fighter 2 SNES:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zFYK8sL5BHI

Street Fighter 2 Genesis:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-bgVdPj3og

Street Fighter 2 Genesis re-arrange by someone other than Capcom:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SgopUbZ3BH8

>>3904662
X3 was kinda unfun.

>>3906763
Oh, australia-kun, you.

I dunno man, Wily Wars on Mega Drive already has more slowdowns than MMX on SNES ever did.
But it would have been nice if MD still got a MMX port, I mean, I'm sure you would still console war about it cherrypicking differences and what not like you always do, but at least it'd be more even.

>>3904625

Patrician taste.

> dat peacock stage
> magma dragoon
> dat balls hard zero vs sigma fight

>>3906791
>Wily Wars on Mega Drive already has more slowdowns than MMX on SNES ever did.
Play it on an OC'd Mega Drive, the slowdowns are practically non-existent.

Anyway, that wasn't a case of the hardware holding the game back, it was because Minakuchi E. were rubbish programmers who didn't properly utilise the adequate MD hardware.

>>3906815
You are probably the most impressive unironic fanboy on /vr/

>>3906820
>The Genesis didn't have the power to update and handle 3 NES games
He's just stating facts.
Ninja Gaiden Trilogy on the SNES wasn't such hot stuff either, not because the hardware couldn't handle it, just an inadequate port.

>>3906829
My reply to australia was more because of all the excuses he comes up with in order to mantain his anti-nintendo agenda.
If Megaman on MD has slowdowns it's "the dev's fault", but if MMX has some slowdown here and there, "the snes' hardware is helding the game back".

Big fan of the first three X games.
I have a Saturn and I can burn CD-Rs for it, should I give X4 a go? How is the Saturn version compared to PS1 version? (I have a modchipped PS2 I can use as well)

>>3906842
saturn version uses a lot of dithered transparencies, controls are built more for the 4 button layout, but you can change all the binds so it works more naturally (i use the right shoulder buttons for dash, and Z/C for change weapon.)

I rather like dithered transparencies, they look really nice although I understand some people prefer polygonal transparencies. That's honestly the only real difference I can think of between versions.

>>3906836
MMX is a system exclusive, not a lousy outsourced port of an 8-bit game so the same rules don't really apply.
The reason MMX and many games lagged so on the SNES is because it had an underpowered CPU (Ricoh 5A22 3.58 MHz), which was slower than even the fucking Atari Lynx.
I'm not saying MMX would have been a better game on the Genesis, it certainly wouldn't have been as colourful or controlled as well with the more limited button input (controller comfortability debates aside) and I shudder to think how early 16-bit era Capcom would have slaughtered their compositions on the much harder to master Yamaha YM2612. But the Genesis did have a Motorola 68000 7.6 MHz with a Zilog Z80 3.58 MHz backing it up, resulting in faster games which hardly had any slow down at all unless lousily programmed.

>>3906858
Yeah yeah I know about the SNES' CPU. BLAST PROCESSING, BLAZE PROCESSING, yadda yadda.
I'm just saying, Australia-kun's double standards are funny, he shits on any game that's on Nintendo systems no matter what.
Any other game on any other system may get a free pass, no matter how many flaws it has, he will find a way to excuse it, but if it's on Nintendo, there's no question: it's shit. That's the Australia-kun philosophy.

The only MMX games I enjoy replaying every once in a while are X1, X2 and X4.

>>3904716
>Well seeing as how X2 and X3 had on board extra hardware, no, no it didn't.
Are you implying that because they shoved a co-processor on there, that the SNES did not hold the games back hardware-wise?
Because that's exactly the opposite of the point you're trying to make...

Also, the SNES absolutely does hold those games back, as they can't hold a consistent framerate to save their fucking life. In places without the wireframe shit.

>>3904715
Saturn has the stronger versions of both Mega Man X4 and Mega Man 8 retard.

>>3906882
Been playing X1 on my SFC and, besides 2 or 3 instances with some mid-bosses (mind you, not the main bosses), I haven't come across slowdowns.
Was the international SNES version worse than the japanese somehow?

Also, what are the strongest points of X4 on Saturn? (>>3906842 here, I'm deciding whether to play on SS or PS)

>>3904713
X2 definitely had some stuff cut, the last level is pretty shitty.

>>3906885
apart from the change in control layout and the slightly different visual effects, the saturn version seemed identical from my experience (having played the PS1 version several times throughout my life and the saturn version recently.)

>>3906885
controls are the biggest for me, i hate ps1's d-pad, making saturn the winner.

>>3906870
X5 is breddy fun to replay every now and again, too.

>>3904625
>X4

Literally overrated exercise of utter mediocrity.

>>3904625
Would I be fine playing this with a 360 controller? I know its d-pad is wonky so I never used it for platformers, but right now I have no other option.

>>3907556
It's X4, you could play it with a keyboard and still be fine.

>>3907563
I meant the MM Legacy collection, not X4.

>>3907576
I've been using a 360 controller to emulate, a bit wonky but works fine otherwise

*hides thread*

While we're at it, this is the best Classic Megaman. The NES games are overrated as fuck.

>>3907829
>8
>best classic

Better than X4 at least.

>>3907829
M&B is better

>>3907829
to forte >>>>>>> everything else

>>3907829
>shmup and snow boarding gimmick stages
I mean it's nice to look at, but it's pretty meh overall.

>>3908164
>>3908167
>King level

>>3904625
Lie