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3856343 No.3856343 [Reply] [Original]

Metroid thread? Metroid thread.

I'm currently playing Super Metroid, which I've still never finished despite starting it numerous times over the years. I just got the Ice Beam, and I need to say what's already been said countless times: this game is incredible so far. I just hope it doesn't drop off in the final hours like Prime did.

What's your favorite Metroid game/weapon/ability/romhack?

What are some other good retro Metroidvanias (other than SotN, of course)?

>> No.3856353
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>>3856343
I thought Prime was all around fucking amazing, but after I replayed Super, I reconsidered some things and I think Super beats Prime by a bit for best control in a vidya ever, and very high replayability.

Metroid 1 I had a hard time with at first, but if you dedicate yourself to it, it can be a very exciting experience. Especially if you use as little outside help as possible.

And that's my Metroid knowledge thus far. (Except Prime 2, but that's not-retro).

>> No.3856368

Return of Samus is underrated

>> No.3856373

>>3856368

why?

>> No.3856456

>>3856368
Agreed.

I think it's really ambient and a very expansive and competent game considering it's on the game boy. I can see why it is sometimes viewed negatively because its scope was reduced greatly compared to its prequel and sequel.

>> No.3856469

>>3856343
You still have a long ways to go.

>> No.3856474

>>3856343
Zero Mission>Fusion>Super

>> No.3856578

>>3856368
In that game, the environment feels more natural (because of the minimal tech) and has more of an Alien-like vibe compared to other Metroid games.

>> No.3856582

>>3856474
GBAbbies pls go.

>> No.3856590 [DELETED] 

>>3856582
Nostalgiagfags pls go.

>> No.3856592

>>3856582
Nostalgiafags pls go.

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>>3856474
>>3856592
low quality bait

>> No.3856736
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Fusion is my favorite Metroid game.

I can see where people are coming from who bitch about it, it's very dialogue-heavy for Metroid, but I just love the horror-like atmosphere the story sets up. I never expected to be shitting my pants playing a GBA game.

It's also one of the hardest goddamn games I've ever beaten. I'm pretty sure the final boss is only possibly by exploiting its AI and getting it to run around in circles in the corner. Fuck you, SA-X

>> No.3856740

>>3856736
>gba metroid
>hard

>> No.3856750
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Who's this guy with a stick up his ass about the GBA?

>Bawww I hate one of the best game systems ever

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>>3856353
"We grunge now"

>> No.3856985

>>3856730
But zero mission is better than super...

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>mfw Phantoon
How the fuck do I dodge the swinging rings of blue fire when he's in the middle of the screen?

>> No.3857557

>>3856343
Not /vr/ but I personally like Fusion (Metroid 4) better than Super. It's shorter but more engaging throughout the whole thing. Super got a little stale for me.

Definitely try the post SotN Castlevanias and Cave Story

>> No.3858195

>>3857546
Charge beam.
Somersault.
Makes a pseudo-screw attack.

>> No.3858326

>>3856368
calling it underrated implies people even know it exists

most people seem to think "metroid 3" is a typo

>> No.3858345

>>3856353

>best control in a vidya ever

You have got to be fucking kidding. The lack of toggle beam/missile is so asinine, and as someone who started with Fusion, I never got used to it, especially with Ridley.

>> No.3858368

there's some zero mission repros for sale for $15 and it looks pretty good. Should I get it?

>> No.3858431

>>3856985
No it's not. It's baby mode easy shit with handholding map room and op super missiles, not even challenging on hard mode. The colors look like shit and the graphics are just plain ugly. The shitty repetitive gba music rapes the ears.

>> No.3858435

>>3856343
AM2R is best Metroid.

>> No.3858436
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>>3856750
>best system ever
>half of its games are laggier snes ports with worse graphics and ear raping sound
>the other half are shovelware

>> No.3858440

>>3856736
Fusion is a joke difficulty wise though. I can play through the Japanese version on hard mode without dying once.

>> No.3858483

>>3856343
Super/Wave Beam/Spin Attack/NA

I can't think of any retro Metroidvanias but Demon's Crest is really good. It doesn't have the exploration of metroid but it has great platforming, weapon/ability upgrades, and backtracking if you want to find all the secrets.

>> No.3858496

>>3858368
>$15 for a chink bootleg
I bought zero mission for 12 bucks at a used video game store in 2012. Fucking reseller scum.

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>>3858436

>> No.3858530

>>3858368
You can get one from Aliexpress for half that price at least

>> No.3858637

>>3858435
Underrated post

>> No.3858673

>>3858435
am2r apes super metroid and in doing so loses what made metroid 2 actually good

>> No.3858681

>>3857546
Don't shoot him with super missiles, he won't do that attack.

>> No.3858741

>>3856456
Trying to play the game on the go was fucking insufferable back in the day, everything looks the same and there's no map, no way to know where you were months ago and what's new, and your health level saves so you're constantly grinding for health

Playing the game at home with a map helped a lot and made me like it though

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>>3858673
>It's so good that it's not good anymore

what

>> No.3858896

>>3856736
fusion has issues but at least it felt like something new and that makes it better than zero mission

zero mission is just super metroid lite. unambitious. setting up a new status quo and then following it up with a remake was some weak shit even back in 2004

>> No.3858897

>>3856736
>Fusion
>Hard

Dude... do you have the downs?

>> No.3858898

>>3857546
Morph ball. Alternate sides of the screen.

>> No.3858901

>>3858435
I really got surprised by that game.

>Fucking great music.
>Zero engine, which was fine by me.
>The metroid looked something as good or better than what nintendo would do.
>No fucking dialogues.
>Minimal hand holding.

The only thing I hated was the menu interface. It looked a little cheap and 'homebrewy'.

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>>3856368
If it had a map it would have been perfect.

>> No.3859340

>>3856353
>best controls ever

Are you high? Super metroid has the worst controls of the 2-D games. AM2R has by far the best controls of any metroid game, even if it is a fangame

>> No.3859375

>>3856343
>What are some other good retro Metroidvanias (other than SotN, of course)?
I would also like to know this. Played all the eponymous (metroid and castlevania) games, but not anything else. Doesn't have to be /vr/.

>> No.3859415

>>3859340
There's no fucking way am2r beats super metroid's controls

>> No.3859437

>>3856736

It does have a great horror atmosphere, very dialog heavy amounts to maybe 4 typed pages worth of text in the entire game total in this case. I always liked the creepy, isolated feel you have in metroid, people don't think of it as a horror series but it has potential to be scary

>> No.3859449

>>3859375
Try Hebereke, also known as Ufouria: The Saga. I'd recommend playing the Japanese version since they butchered some of the character designs during localization.

>> No.3859461

>>3859340
>AM2R has by far the best controls of any metroid game, even if it is a fangame

Is this supposed to be some kind of bait, or just a really bad shill?

>> No.3859498

Fusion > Super > Return of Samus > Zero Mission > Metroid

For me, at least. I own Prime, but I haven't progressed enough to form an opinion on it. Although the need to scan literally everything on your first playthrough is more of a tedium than a welcome bonus.

Fusion would be perfect if it were somehow possible to cut down on the linearity. Since the game is so heavily plot-driven, I'm not so sure it's doable.

AMR2 is really overrated. They lifted most of the graphics straight from the GBA games, and then upscaled them to make them look even more awkward and out-of-place. It looks and plays nothing like something that Nintendo's own R&D could come up with. Honestly, I think most of the game's praise is just the same few individuals persistently advertising across communities like /vr/ and GameFAQs. Many of their posts even look suspiciously similar.

>> No.3859558 [DELETED] 

>>3859340
I played am2r with a 360 controller and its janky as fuck even though it was designed around that.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=55cvWIjGRo0
I wonder how good Metroid 2 would have been if came out on the SNES instead

>> No.3859731

>>3859415
>>3859461

Not him but
>tighter air physics
>the most customizable
>can resume somersaulting mid air after shooting/getting hit
>quick morph

>> No.3860151

>>3858496
The closest game store to me that might have it has worse prices than ebay, and ebay is 30-35 for it.

>> No.3860984

I hope a 2D sequel to Metroid Fusion is announced at E3 this year for the Switch.

>> No.3861092

>>3860984
id cum

>> No.3861102

Favorite game: Fusion. I really dunno why, but I enjoy it more than Super.
Favorite weapon: Screw Attack, for ever and ever.
Favorite ability: Space jump (with screw attack)

>> No.3862813

>>3861092
I would literally lose it, please make it happen.

>> No.3863294

>>3858431
Only thing I agree with is the music quality, but it ain't repetitive man, most of the tracks are just remixes of super. Have you played Zero Mission on hard? It's a lot more challenging than supers. Also the map room points you in the right direction, but doesn't restrict you and force you to go there immediately.

>> No.3863301

>>3858896
I don't know, zero mission might be more or less a remix of super but fusion's linearity makes it a lot less fun imo. Not to mention that "story"... yikes

>> No.3863304

>>3859498
Eh I saved scanning every single thing until my second play though of prime because I missed the one missable one in the space station.

>> No.3863308

>>3859498
>>3863304
Personally I love scanning as I like how it builds the world around you. It's definitely hit or miss with some people, probably because of how it slows down actual progress considerably.

>> No.3864825

>>3856474
Agree

>> No.3865547

>>3856474

Controls aren't everything

>> No.3865557

>>3859340

Am2r has the smoothest controls, but SM controls are more in line with the setting and atmosphere by being slightly out of place which is more true to metroid convention of being unconventional as fuck and breaking standard conventions every way it can.

>> No.3865605
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Zero suit was a mistake, go make a Metroid thread on /v/ if you don't believe

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>>3859498

>They lifted most of the graphics straight from the GBA games, and then upscaled them to make them look even more awkward and out-of-place.

WOW! It turns out that fans of a game series doing a project in their spare time don't have the resources & manpower of a multinational game developer and publisher! Hot fucking take, my man, do you have more where that one came from?!

>It... plays nothing like something that Nintendo's own R&D could come up with.

Considering where this series has gone after Prime 3, I don't think that's quite the putdown you thought it was.

>> No.3866330

>>3856368
It's overrated actually.

>> No.3866334

>>3865669
>WOW! It turns out that fans of a game series doing a project in their spare time don't have the resources & manpower of a multinational game developer and publisher!
Actually they do. But if it's only one or two people and depending on their schedules they might want to make that concession, especially given the exceedingly high chance of getting fox'd by a company that's very aggressive at doing so. If you're just going to get C&D'd for copyright infringement you might as well get as much infringement done as quickly as possible eh? In for a penny in for a pound as it were.

>> No.3866373

>>3856343
>I just hope it doesn't drop off in the final hours like Prime did.

All of Prime sucked desu.

>> No.3866374

>>3856474
Nigga que?

>> No.3866817
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Since the Metroids are most likely extinct at the end of Fusion what would the story of Fusion 2 be like?

>> No.3866921

>>3856343
>I just hope it doesn't drop off in the final hours like Prime did.
Well, the section just before the final boss is gash but that seems to be part of the Metroid "heritage" just like every Metroid game begins with an escape-from-space-station-before-time-tuns-out-and-it-blows-up section.

>> No.3867246

Sign of a pleb

>Zero Mission is better than Metroid NES

If you can't memorise the small map of the original Metroid then you have brain damage

>> No.3867335

>>3867246
the NES Metroid's problem was the copypaste rooms and identical hallways to pad out the world. Other than that it's fine.

Okay and the ice beam requiring you to shoot everything twice as much compared to the long beam was bullshit

>> No.3867456

>>3866817
>what would the story of Fusion 2 be like?

Samus clearing her name. She blew up a(nother) planet and a black ops GF facility along with it, and stole the ship they lent her.

The only potential way they would do it would be to brand the Mysterious Man we see talking to Adam as kind of a renegade force within the GF, running the Metroid program without the GF knowing about it.

Nintendo will conclude the plot Fusion laid out, though; just look at Federation Farce if you think modern Nintendo could be arsed to make a Metroid where there are any moral greys in the GF's activities. Assuming they ever make another Metroid let alone one where you actually play as Samus, it's going to be a nice, safe, in-between-quel with no moral quandaries.

>> No.3867460

>>3867456
>will never conclude

>> No.3867574
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>>3856343
This would probably be one of my favorites if Maridia didnt exist

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>>3867574
I don't understand the hate for Maridia. It's very small and almost impossible to get lost.

>> No.3867950

>>3867456
>Other M
nty

>> No.3867959

>>3867941
I finished Super yesterday, and Maridia was easily the least fun area to explore.

>> No.3868189

>>3867941
It would be fine if not for the quicksand. That shit was unbearable.

>> No.3868687

>>3867941
Slow movement before gravity suit, there's a few roundabouts oneways, locked doors, enemies and ground are less pleasant to deal with flow wise. It hates you running as much. Chill as fuck though. The ambiance is nice. It is the easiest part of the game to get lost navigating though.

>> No.3868985

>>3866817

Both the Federation and the space pirates are hunting Samus because she has the last of metroid DNA.

Samus
You are metroid
No
And Samus was phone.

>> No.3869116

>>3866817
It will probably be a combination of Prometheus and Alien Covenant just AWOL to the Federation.

>> No.3869121

>>3867246
This

>> No.3869126

>>3867941
I like the ambiance of Maridia, however it has the most vestigial parts of the game. The Spring Ball is an after thought. The missle recharge is in a weird place. There are a few passages that lead to nothing. Also, for anyone speed running a 100% game, you have to loop around 3 times through one-way quicksand passages. Also the obstacle to the Plasma beam is a metal door that only opens after Draygon is turned to sushi.

That being said, Lower Maridia's BGM and the overall BG graphics are some of the best in the game.

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>>3869126
>Lower Maridia's BGM (...) some of the best in the game.
>not lower Norfair

>> No.3869193

>>3869126
>The Spring Ball is an after thought.

I imagine they wanted to give the Morph Ball more utility, but realized the Spider Ball was too damn slow. Original Metroid 2 became a damn slog when you needed to use the Spider Ball.

>> No.3869194

>>3869189
>lower norfair
>not brinstar red soil area

and NES Norfair was best

>> No.3869198

>>3869126
>That being said, Lower Maridia's BGM and the overall BG graphics are some of the best in the game.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_WaKe6lGfhU

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>>3869198
Now it sounds like the end credits of some anime.

>> No.3869750

Upper Brinstar > Lower Brinstar > Lower Norfair > Norfair > Wrecked Ship > Crateria > Maridia

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Shit, I missed it.

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>tfw you had Metroid Prime Trilogy on the Wii
>tfw never finished Prime and barely even played Echoes
>tfw you have the Wii and all the games you had to goodwill
>>3856343
>What's your favorite Metroid game
I just started emulating Prime Trilogy, and Echoes is pretty damn fun. I don't know if I like it more than Super though.
>Weapon
The plasma beam
>Ability
Do reserve tanks count?

>> No.3871042

>>3856343
>What's your favorite Metroid

>game
Super Metroid
>weapon
Nova beam (Prime 3 Corruption)
>ability
Screw Attack
>romhack
Never played one

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>>3859498
AM2R's rating is more likely from the fact that it controls rather well with no real problems. I mean I shouldn't have to say it on /vr/ but not all games are about graphics.
The graphics work for AMR2. That being said sweetfx can make help clean up some of the look.


> It looks and plays nothing like something that Nintendo's own R&D could come up with.

Except for one of the GBA games.

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>>3869198
the fuck is that shit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ypj6j3KTqKk

>> No.3871281

>>3868985
>No, Samus. You are the Metroids
That's much better than the bullshit Sakamoto said about Samus losing the Metroid DNA at the end of Fusion.

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>>3869198
>>3871265
step aside bitches

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7dZABuKUHEc

>> No.3872901

>>3871285
Norfair is shit tier.
Kraid's Lair is where it's at.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k5l9twdrbxk
Doesn't even need a fucking remix to sound great.

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I've recently got a PSP and load it with emulators, and want to get into metroid series while on my commute to work.

Is there a certain order to get into it?

>> No.3872962

>>3859498
They weren't upscaled at all.
They were also placeholder graphics. The plan was to gradually replace every borrowed asset with an original one, and the Golden Temple was already overhauled in the 1.2 patch but then Nintendo sent the DMCA crashing down.

It was just something to get the game out faster.

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>>3866817
Metroid Clones.
Again.

>> No.3872995

>>3858435
This. It's the logical next step for the 2D games.

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>>3872901
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VkwmAcGUGO0

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>>3872901

True, it's definitely the best theme from the original. But there are some damn good remixes out there:

https://youtu.be/wgLtr2ru9d0

https://youtu.be/vq_u1skc6Vk

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>>3873868
zm sprites are so terrible

>> No.3874081

>>3874036
They're not bad, they're just suffering from being brighter than they need to be because of GBA.

>> No.3874940

>>3873269
The original is way better. It keeps it's sci-fi sound, the sounds are fuller, the audio is clearer.
The problem when people make things sound more realistic on some of these tunes is that often lose some of the aspects the original had. The lack of synth is disappointing. The bass stretch is is ruined by adding drums and wwwhhaaaas for effect when the original straight bass with the melody coming coming from a fairly full moving piece to a very basic and short repetition really sort of gives you a sense of despair and isolation there that ZM just doesn't even grasp in it's overzealousness to hype it to shit.
The timbre on that lead instrument is fucking terrible in ZM. It sounds like plinking at cheesy toy piano.
NES version is significantly better. The ZM could be improved with a remaster, but it'd really need to rework some of the elements like during the bass hold get rid of the drums and the 'suspense' noise that's actually ironically killing the suspense of the piece.

>> No.3874949

>>3873375
I'm not saying there can't be remixes that are decent or better quality. But the original doesn't need one to sound good and more so because most remixes simply don't measure up to the original.
I've heard some good remixes, I'd disagree on those as being good remixes though.

>> No.3875120

>>3856736
>pretty sure the final boss is only possibly by exploiting its AI

>freeze
>jump over to other side
>spam missiles
>repeat

it's a pretty badly designed boss whatever way you look at it though. kills you in seconds if you try to experiment, but becomes pathetically easy once you start following the same set of actions. the whole ending of fusion was blatantly rushed

>> No.3875151

>>3875120
wait, the missiles freeze don't they. i meant charged shots.

>> No.3875208

>>3856353
>>3856343
Metroid Prime 1 was great in every way - great transition of all mechanics into 3D.

Prime 2 was the worst - it botched the exploration part.
1) Most locations look samey
2) One-way obstacles that do not show on the map and give sense of interconnectivity in cases where there is none, making navigation and backtracking much more confusing
3) Darkworld to make matters worse - some areas are interconnected on map, but only accessible from dark world with access in different location
4) Forced backtracking coupled with all of the above - in 1 you could collect all necessary pieces if you were observant enough before you even knew what you need them for, and even if you didnt game tells you where to search. In 2 you can not even see them until you get final upgrade.
5) Stupid ammo system for weapons that are constantly essential in puzzles.

Prime 3 went to the other extreme - almost no exploration at all - loacations are separated and mostly linear, have some branches but that's it. Other aspects are good, but exploration is integral part of the Metroid. While it is better than Prime 2, it is still not a good Metroid game.

>> No.3875247

>>3866334
It was done by literally one guy, with music done by another one separately (and much later in the development), in their spare time. They lifted as much as they could from original games.

>> No.3875258

>>3875208
On the plus side, at least if you run out of beam ammo, you can still fire them if you charge the arm cannon.

>> No.3875440

>>3856736
Fusion felt fantastic to me the first time. On replay, many design choices turned out to be in the way of fun.

>It's also one of the hardest goddamn games I've ever beaten
Hard mode isn't even hard aside from a couple of bosses.

>I'm pretty sure the final boss is only possibly by exploiting its AI and getting it to run around in circles in the corner
SAX can literally be taken down by shooting a charged shot at it, walking away from its screw attack range and repeating the process.

>> No.3875445

>>3875208
>Metroid Prime 1 was great in every way - great transition of all mechanics into 3D.

Except for the terrible movement. And the terrible shooting. And the poor level design. The lack of weapon mixing. The poorly designed boss fights. The absurdly terrible scanning mechanics. The lore was terrible as fuck.

Outside of those things, the game was absolutely fucking amazing.

>> No.3875520

>>3875440
>Fusion felt fantastic to me the first time. On replay, many design choices turned out to be in the way of fun.
that's funny, it felt really weird and offputting to me at first, but somehow its rhythm sunk into me as i went on. not sure if that's a good thing.

>>3875445
>The lack of weapon mixing.
don't see how this is in itself a bad thing, but god damn was it annoying how they kept forcing you to switch to open doors, especially since bombs only worked for one type

also wasn't the lore substantially changed between the NTSC and PAL editions? like, they had to 'clean it up' and make it more boring or something

>> No.3875602

>>3875520
In MP1 they changed the lore a little in the fact that the space pirates never cracked the prime the chozo force field in the meteor crater but still somehow noted how they were assimilated by Metroid Prime and used phazon on it. The PAL version removes the logs that noted they encountered it, but the game doesn't change that the end prime has assimilated stuff that it shouldn't. Since it was locked away by the Chozo and you're the first one to get by the force field.

>> No.3875618

>>3875445
>terrible movement
>terrible shooting
>poor bosses
>scanning

You clearly played the trilogy. Wii controls got botched - felt much sloppier than original Gamecube ones.

Scanning mechanics were great and for the most part optional (aside from activation of specific targets). If you want lore - you scan, if you dont want lore - dont scan. It has no effect on endings you get as only collectibles count for that matter.

Bosses were done about the only way they could be done in FPS. Doing them otherwise would reduce them to shitty "shoot it until it dies" tier.

Map design is great, interconnected and in many cases non-linear. Environments are varied and distinct. It is one of the best designed first person games, period.

DEEPEST LORE was never the strong point of any metroid game, and there was no lore in the games before prime aside from conflicting manuals and comics.

>>3875520
Never had any problem with weapon switching. It's not like you have to go into menu - just touch the D-pad.

>> No.3875747

>>3872946
>Is there a certain order to get into it?

Yes, you play Super Metroid. It defines a genre, you need to start there.

>> No.3875753

>>3872946
Super metroid > Metroid fusion > metroid zero mission
Those are the only titles that worth playing, the rest is garbage.

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>>3875747
>>3875753

>> No.3875780

>>3875753
>>3875773
SM > ZM > Metroid >>> Fusion >>> Metroid 2 >>> Pinball >>> Slapping yourself in the face with a stick >>> Metroid Prime 1 wii >>> Metroid Hunters >>> Metroid Prime 2 wii >>> Shoving the stick up your ass then shitting on it, then slapping yourself in the face it while holding your tongue out >>> Metroid Prime 3

>> No.3876385

>>3875780
>Other M is so bad it doesn't even make it to the ranking

>> No.3876634

>>3875773
Another Metroid II Remake (AM2R) belongs in the Recommended tier

>> No.3877959

>>3875618
Actually I've played both versions. The Wii controls were far better.

I'm just going to ignore the rest of your apologetics since they're shit points that aren't valid.

>> No.3877963

>>3876385
It would be above shoving a stick up your ass.
It's a shitty game but it's far better than MP3.

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>>3875773
>all of these underaged saying avoid M2
Metroid 2 is a great game, I got it from a pawn shop for my gbc as a kid. Just play it on an emulator and use save-states if you're too much of a fucking gba babby casual to beat it.

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>>3873868
I dislike how the varia and gravity suit have those retarded titty eyes now.

>> No.3878408

>>3878291
I don't think it's so bad. I rather like how they managed to incorporate bits of the Prime style into the classic Super style.

>> No.3879653

>>3875753
SM > Metroid > Metroid 2 > Fusion

>> No.3879757

>>3859731
>>can resume somersaulting mid air after shooting/getting hit
Removing half the penalty for getting hurt.

>> No.3879759

>>3879757
What about shooting then?

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Bumping with Crocomire

>> No.3881262

>>3881231
save the crocomire

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>>3881262

>> No.3881283

>>3881274
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dGFgUPYyZjk

>> No.3883107

>>3859731
>quicker morph
>can resume somersaulting mid air after shooting/getting hit
Neither of these are good things

>> No.3883539

>>3883107
And why the fuck not

>> No.3886262

>>3856343
the day i got SM:Rdesign working on my vita was the day i no longer regretted buying it. it's not easy but id recommend it to a veteran.

the gba was a golden age for the genre with 5 combined metroid and castlevania games that id recommend. i can plah gba on muh vita too so im happy as a pig in shit thanks to henkaku.
if youre sly you can find a copy of AM2R out there probably. a fan remade Metroid II and got DMCA'd.

>> No.3886451

>>3886262
Emulating romhacks is like the only reason I want a vita. It just sounds convenient to have something dedicated to them. Little more engaging.

>> No.3887740

>>3886262
Easy as fuck to find AM2R. It had more than enough time to get out there before it was shut down.

>> No.3887949

I've never liked the metroid games (nes and snes). I really want to because I like platformers and "rpg" (powerup) shit. But the metroid games just seem kind of bad to me. I can't even quite put my finger on what it is I don't like about them, so it's probably just me having shit taste than anything really being wrong. But that's how I feel desu.

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good shit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=edQkASeLxIk

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>>3889935
I fucking love the Sunsoft sound font

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>>3889935
Oh shit this guy did another one recently

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E5KOYo1TaPo

>> No.3890696

>>3858896
Zero Mission isn't Super Metroid Lite, it's Super Metroid But Better. It's, objectively looking, better than Super Metroid in every area. It hits a perfect sweetspot of guidance, freedom, exploration, mystery and story.
If you turn off nostalgia goggles, you will notice that Super Metroid has many flaws (Brinstar bridge, several failures to telegraph what to do next, many sequence breaking tricks can leave you as good as dead with no way back, atmosphere of mystery kinda takes a nosedive after Phantoon, clunky controls, nonexistent difficulty when exploring and surreal difficulty spikes on bosses, Sporespawn, too many items are just useless missile tanks, Crocomire is a really boring unmemorable boss that most people forget even fucking exists, there is no real atmosphere of danger, too much of the game is spent getting lost) and Zero Mission fixes all of them.

>> No.3891109

>>3890696
>super metroid but better
>hand holding hint statues
>op super missile
>very low difficulty even on hard
>shitty tacked on stealth segment to show off muh waifu suit
>ugly as fuck graphics

It's not Spper Metroid but better, It's NES Metroid but worse.

>> No.3891151

>>3890696
everything about this post is absolutely retarded

>> No.3891186

>>3891109
>hand holding hint statues
That are completely optional
>op super missile
Are Super Missiles NOT op in Super?
>very low difficulty even on hard
We're talking about Metroid. There IS no difficulty.
>shitty tacked on stealth segment to show off muh waifu suit
I'll give you this one. I enjoyed the segment, but I'll still give it to you
>ugly as fuck graphics
Only in cutscenes.

>> No.3891193

>>3891186
>We're talking about Metroid. There IS no difficulty.
stopped reading there
You've obviously never played the original Metroid that Zero copied, Super also has higher difficulty than Zero. fuck off gba kiddy

>> No.3891206

>>3891193
An easy game isn't necessarily a bad one. I prefer Super Metroid and enjoy the difficulty of it, but Zero Mission isn't bad for what it is.

>> No.3891207

>>3891193
I know this series like the back of my fucking hand. Super has no difficulty at all.
The only difficulty in Metroid is the clunky controls, and the only difficulty in Metroid II are the tiny hitboxes on Metroid.

>> No.3893898

>>3876634
Agreed, it's a great fan game. You can really tell that someone put a lot of time into the design.

>> No.3893912

Original Metroid is still the best.

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so good
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q6fceLfjB4s

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Everyone Ignoring the Best Metroid game ever.

>> No.3894292

>>3894281
No powersuit/10 try again later

>> No.3894305

>>3894292
>what is axe armor

>> No.3894313

>>3894292
What is axearmor

>> No.3894331

>>3894313
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPY1JOfVW2M

>> No.3895609

>>3894206
Hopefully someone lights Pauly's dick on fire.

>> No.3895618

>>3894281
You seem to have posted a Castlevania game.

>> No.3895758

>>3895618
that was the joke, they're very similary play styles, hence the term 'Metroidvania"

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>>3895609
that's not very nice

>> No.3896538

>>3895986
Pauly put in the work.

>> No.3896620

>>3858436
Battle Network wasn't shovelware.