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>>3888741
>Has never seen what a PS3 game looks like.

>>3888754
Like this?

>>3888795
Okay granted if you're only comparing Shenmue to to trashy ausie sports shovelware I could understand thinking it looks like a PS3 game.

>>3888813
It's a PS3 game, it counts just as much.

>>3888741
$70 million budget

>>3888819
Sure it technically counts, but misses the point. But OP is saying Shenmue looks like a PS3 game. But that's like saying Simon's Quest looks like a PS1 game because it doesn't look that different from CV Chronicles. It's a purposefully terrible example.

If Shenmue was released on PS3 looking the way it does on DC it would have been a laughing stock.

>>3888830
Bad example, Chronicles is a port. That's like calling Ghosts N Goblins on the Capcom Collection a PSX game.

I ithink OP was talking bout the detail instead of the lighting or texture quality.

>>3888854
Whatever. I couldn't think of a non-port that looked as shitty compared to the others as that soccer game.

Anyone thinking Shenmue looks like a PS3 game either has and extremely limited and specific frame of reference or they're just blind.

>>3888795
Even looking as bad as this does its still obviously a generation above Shenmue

>>3888741
dont bullshit once upon a time some nintoddler told me their celda64 looks bettar

>>3888868
He said A PS3 game, that could mean any PS3 game.

>>3888916
Are you just trying extra hard to be an imbecile at this point?

>>3888921
I'm repeating what OP said, sorry if you don't like someone insulting your precious PS3. But he said a PS3 game,not the best movie game on the console.

>>3888827
considering modern AAA title bloated budgets, $70 mil doesn't sound like all that much these days even

>>3888932
I don't even own a PS3, this is just retarded beyond belief. Even the shitty soccer example looks miles better than Shenmue. Compared to normal games on the system it's a joke.

DC is an awesome system with awesome games (Shenmue being one) but saying it's graphically on par with later systems is ridiculous.

Graphics don't make a game.

>>3888938
What soccer game?

>>3888940
Soccer, football, whatever. It looks like complete garbage for a PS3 which is the only reason he posted it. >>3888795

Are you seriously trying to say you think Shenmue looks like a typical PS3 game?

>>3888952
>a typical PS3 game?
Where did anyone say typical?

>>3888952

That's a PS4 game.

>1988 game
>PS3 graphics

How?

>>3888954
"PS3 graphics" implies an average amount of graphical detail from a variety of PS3 games.

>>3888741
Shenmue admittedly looks gorgeous even today. But you've got to remember, this was Sega's main game for DC, with an insane budget for its time. Even by Yu Suzuki's more modest estimation, it cost around $47 mln, including marketing. This was literally a good late PS3-era budget: LA Noire cost $50 mln total. GTA Vice City allegedly cost just $5 mln to develop.
Then again, Shenmue really is what it is: it's a great big budget game for 6th gen console. So of course it didn't have very fancy lighting, bump mapping, reflections, etc. You can see the spiky polygons, weird textures trying to emulate shadows, etc. Frankly speaking, any PS3 game (aside for some awful shovelware) will blow out Shenmue out of the water, technology-wise.
But that's technology; what makes Shenmue stand out is the assets. The quality of models, animations, etc. And that's where probably most of the budget went.
So trying to compare a game that cost $47 mln to some shovelware is just missing the point.

>>3888968
No it doesn't, you're inferring that incorrectly.

>>3888954
>1999 game
>PS3 graphics

He is implying this game from 1999 has PS3 level graphics. Unless the person reading that is a bumbling simpleton they understand that means that it's a game from 1999 that holds up well compared to the graphics on the PS3.

So cherry picking one of the ugliest games, clearly making poor use of the systems resources is a terrible example.

And let's remember that even in that case, it still looks far better than Shenmue even though it's bargain bin garbage compared to the vast majority of games. It's hard to imagine even an idiot like you not being able to grasp that.

So again I ask, what are you getting out pretending to be so overwhelmingly stupid? Like you can't follow and understand a simple conversation. What's your goal? Do you just like getting made fun of for being blind and possibly retarded?

>>3888989
You're inferring wrong again. PS3 graphics could potentially mean anything, but you're so stupid that you can't even entertain that fact. The ambiguity of language is lost on autist like you.

>>3888964
>Posting the wrong Just Cuz
My bad, but Shenmue still looks nothing like JC2 either and only a blubbering moron would try to say otherwise.

>>3888989

>>3888991
>PS3 graphics could potentially mean anything

Only a complete idiot would read it that way, because that makes the entire original statement pointless. Of course a system can have graphics that don't make use of the graphical power.

So you're really just admitting you're dumb as dirt.

>>3889004
No, you're admitting you have autism. You read it one way, it can be read another. You can't understand that so you sperg out.

I've always wondered how late era Dreamcast games would have looked if it survived the entire gen.

>>3889019
Like shit, you dumb fucker. Dreamcast was fucking awful. Moron.

>>3889016
>You read it one way, it can be read another.

No. The way you are reading it, it's a completely meaningless statement. It just says Shenmue looks like a PS3 game because that system is powerful enough for a game to look like it's from an earlier generation.

If you read it that way you could do the same thing with literally any game that the PS3 could theoretically run.

>The Oregon Trail
>1971 game
>PS3 graphics
>How?

This is fundamentally exactly the same argument you are making. Even for this place I find it hard to imagine you are legitimately this stupid. So why are you pretending to be?

>>3889024
>Soulcalibur
>Shenmue
>Sonic Adventure 2
>PC ports
You mad bro

>>3889019
Like slightly worse PS2 games.

>>3888741
PS3 games were just shit.

>>3888937
That was pre-inflation 70 mill.

On the other side, it also included all the engine work for the sequel.

>>3889042
You keep sperging out. You're so mentally stunted that anything outside of your conception triggers your autism. You need help, you clearly can't think critically or abstractly.

>>3889019
>I've always wondered how late era Dreamcast games would have looked if it survived the entire gen.

Compared to PS2, they would've had less per-pixel special effects like special lightning and fog and motion blur, but games would've been much sharper due to running in 480p.

>>3889057
You're actually proud that you can't understand basic concepts?

>>3889075
Stop giving him attention.

>>3889075
I can, you can't. You can't understand anything that doesn't stand out to you, typical of autism.

>>3889083
Okay then. Explain how saying Shenmue looking like a PS3 game is any different than saying Oregon Trail looks like a PS3 game. Or, make a serious case that Oregon Trail looks like a PS3 game.

>>3889090
Either could, I don't know much about this Oreo game, but if there's a PS3 game that looks like it you could make the claim.

>>3889097
And you're honestly saying you don't understand how that makes the point OP was going for completely worthless?

>>3889103
Mate, stop. The guy's a either baiting you or a child.

>>3889103
It's not worthless, it's vague, yes, but not worthless.

>>3889106
I find it fascinating that people come here and then pretend to be so stupid. It's hard not to keep poking them and see how deep the rabbit hole of idiocy goes.

We're literally at a point where he's saying Oregon Trail looks like a PS3 game. This is pretty fucking funny.

>>3889120
Oreo whatever may look like a PS3 game, which one? I don't know. I don't even know what Oreo Tale looks like.

>>3889120
I really hope it's autism. Like an actual brain dysfunction. There's no way an adult still thinks trolling is entertaining.

>>3889114
If it means what you are saying it means, then it's vague to the point of being completely worthless. If "looks like a PS3 game" means "looks like anything from the dawn of gaming up to PS3" then what he is saying is 100% meaningless.

>>3889132
>gives the meaning
>it's meaningless
Didn't think that post through, did you, buddy?

>>3889120
>falling for trolling and enjoying it

>>3889128
That's the thing. There are two scenarios. Either he's genuinely mentally incapable in which case I am peering into the workings of an idiot, or he's pretending for trolling purposes in which case I am also peering into the workings of an idiot. Either way it's weirdly fascinating to see what he comes up with and how dumb he will pretend to be to try and make his troll catch something.

>>3889136
>gives the meaning

So now you're just greentexting random things?

>>3889137
He's the one pretending to be a moron. I'm just laughing at him and provoking more stupid replies.

>>3889146
See where you wrote means? You contradicted yourself.

>>3889150
So you're trying to deflect away from the actual point now? That's not surprising at least.

If "PS3 graphics" means anything the PS3 is capable of rendering then there is zero reason to ask how a game from 1999 has PS3 graphics. Because by that logic almost every single game released before it also has PS3 graphics.

>>3889048
But the DC is more powerful than the PS2.

>no native AA
top kek

>>3889174
>zero reason
You either mean zero reasons or no reason. I'm not sure.
Why compare it to the latest British movie games and not a low end title? What do you define the PS3 as, graphically? What does a PS3 game look like to you? Something that couldn't be done anywhere else?

>>3889197
>Why compare it to the latest British movie games and not a low end title?

Even the low end game still looks way better than Shenmue even dreamed of.

>>3889220
Way to avoid my question.

>>3889221
Comparing it to either the high or low budget game is the same. They're both far more graphically impressive than Shenmue.

Although it's theoretically possible to put a game that looks like Shenmue on the PS3, no one has, or would have reason to.

>>3889237
What is the PS3 uniquely capable of? Is there any true PS3 game?

>>3889050
Never understood why modern games just couldn't replicate this effect.

Yakuza look like an uspcaled Shenmue.

This is the most petty non-Castlevania argument /vr/'s ever had.

>>3889243
Because detail textures are inferior to bump maps and parallax mapping. UT99 ends up having that same grainy detail texture on every material.

>>3889248
And, surprise, it was started by Australia-kun.

>>3889253
Nice meme.

>>3889238
>What is the PS3 uniquely capable of?
Who cares? That's irrelevant.

Shenmue could only be considered to have "PS3 graphics" if you take that to mean it's a game the PS3 could theoretically run, in which case every retro game has "PS3 graphics" and the statement is meaningless.

Otherwise it means a game that looks like it is making decent use of the PS3 hardware. Even though Cave Story got a port on PS3, no one would seriously try to say it looks like an average PS3 game.

> Is there any true PS3 game?

Uncharted is a decent example since it's a series made specifically for the system and to show off it's graphical capabilities.

>>3889263
Define decent and give an example.

>1972 game
>PS3 graphics
How?

>>3889270
Finish reading my post. I did exactly that.

Broadly a game with "PS3 graphics" means it's a game that is possible with the PS3's graphics capabilities, that the PS1 or PS2 would not be able to handle.

>>3889042
Might I add I'm with you, that other guy is a shiteating contrarian

>>3889332
He was just baiting as hard as possible. It was still good for a laugh though.

>>3888741
Bought this game on release and it sucked then and it sucks now.

>>3888741
Jap black magic

>>3888968
dont feed the trolls man, its not worth it

>>3889050
MGS4 might have had shoddy environmental textures, but Unreal's artstyle is fucking ugly as sin. Keep in mind that Kojima's team needed to scale back the textures due to Sony scaling back on the GPU memory.

>>3890558
CPU*

>>3888991
It still looks worse than that shitty PS3 game.

I knew /vr/ was autistic but this thread is really showing that off.

>>3888741
What are you smoking?

Even Shenmue 2 on XBOX HUGE was bad compared of the other titles for that console

No way the first can compare with a game for PS3, 360, or even WII

Op made this thread to entertain himself. What a pathetic person. Op can't even prove that shenmue is a game, let alone some simple graphics function. Plebs like op will never know true happiness as they enjoy the experience of shenmue

>>3890614
The original walking simulator

>>3888754
Shenmue looks better than all the gray monochromatic shooters on the HD twins.

>>3890646
Sure because monochrome grey all over the place is boring. But what about the vibrant beautiful ones?

>>3888741
>1999 game
>Better than ps4 graphics
how?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uM523jjrvf4

>>3890684
It'll always be easier to make something low effort and ugly

>>3889047
A lot of the PC to Dreamcast ports were pretty trash from what I remember though, Slave Zero and the cancelled Half Life ports come to mind.

>>3888954
this guys clearly an asshole