/vr/ - Retro Games

=== CURRENT EVENTS ===

[Highway to Hell] Second phase of mapping currently extended to the end of March
>>/vr/thread/3852524#p3855512

[Til 4-1] QUMP still going?
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Zlfb2U2VCeS70uS6Klc2ZEOC9KtnYyCyBXEmeetjh0c/edit

=== NEWS ===

[3-24] ZDoom LE 2.8.1a released; a fork for older computers
https://github.com/drfrag666/ZDoom-LE/releases/tag/2.8.1a

[3-23] First SLADE dev build released in over a year
https://devbuilds.drdteam.org/slade/
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=44&t=24955&p=986207

[3-20] GZDoom 2.4.0 and QZDoom 1.3.0 released
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=55739

[3-20] French speedmapping project 3 Heures d'Agonie 3 has been released
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/93359-3-heures-dagonie-3-rc1/

[3-16] Turok 2 EX released
https://www.gog.com/game/turok_2_seeds_of_evil
http://store.steampowered.com/app/405830/

[3-16] Lithium 1.3 released
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=54904

[3-15] Freedoom v0.11.2 released; minor bugfixes
https://github.com/freedoom/freedoom/releases/tag/v0.11.2

[3-15] Dropbox's support of public folders terminated

[3-13] GZDoom map release; UAC Vinur Prime Research Base
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=42&t=49163

[3-12] Quake Champions to be F2P; Ranger provided as the default character
https://youtu.be/vq5bFwvQMwA [Embed]

[3-10] Anon Release; a Hexen/Heretic compatibility pack for Final Doomer
>>/vr/thread/3847428#p3849380

[3-10] Anon Release; 'Discharge' map pack beta
https://www.doomworld.com/vb/wads-mods/93151-discharge-4-maps-beta-test-feedback/

[3-6] More gdxBlood progress made
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFmMxmoVXJI [Embed]

=== PREVIOUS ===

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=== PROTIP ===

If you would like to submit any news or your personal map or mod releases here, please reply/backlink to this post.

Dear god. It's a S'Arais post.

>>3878129

>>3878130
>Doomguy visits the Wax Museum

>>3878129
>>3878130
S'Arais post or not, that shit looks dope

How does one take screenshots with EDGE?
I tried printscreen and it did nothing

>>3878138
>Ranger visits the Ax Museum

>>3878140
https://www.dropbox.com/s/ek1y1h6a3q86u4b/e1m8.wad?dl=0

Knock yourself out lad. Tear it a new one. I need the feedback. (keep in mind some bits (mainly the temple-y stuff and initial techbas'in' aside from that red room) are done by someone else in this thread.
please keep your pants on

you need the base.pk3
it's still not done yet.

>>3878130
>that hell knight

>>3878153
Okay, I'll play it now and again when the .pk3 is done, cheers

>>3878154
How the hell do you do that?

>>3878158
>How the hell do you do that?
it's called OECake

>>3878158
Yeah (it's the map that's not done. I'm pretty sure term has no need to update the H2H base.Pk3)

>>3878160
Make some of the parts fall off until he's just a head

I don't know if this counts as a stupid question or not, but can I rename the map wads I download, or do they need to have original names in order for them to work?

>>3878162
Where do I get the unfinished base.pk3?

>>3878167
You can; but don't. It will usually cause inconsistencies in multiplayer and/or dependancies

>>3878154
>>3878158
>OECake

acid death sprite sheets when

>>3878170
The pk3 is finished, though?

either-or, give me a moment to rip my junk out of it in slade.

>>3878178
oh wait, it is?
I'll have that then. Sorry

>>3878180
Eh, whatever.

The old version of the map with only my initial works and not a random anon's attempts to salvage it is still on this version of the PK3 though. I will need a couple of moments to ensure it's purity.

I had started building this thing at the near-end of Phase 1.

>>3878165

>>3878185
wow i'm fucking dumb
https://www.dropbox.com/s/6c4v7qubap7ktnz/base.pk3?dl=0

>>3878172
>inconsistencies in multiplayer
I only play singleplayer though.
>and/or dependancies
Yeah, this is what I was worried about. Guess I have to make individual folders for ever map pack I download I guess.

>>3878196
I mean that if a wad calls for another wad, you're going to have issues.

I'm liking it so far

>>3878206
is jumping and crouching allowed?

>>3878185
Also for convenience's sake:
https://www.dropbox.com/home?preview=MAPwaytohell.wad the h2h basic room that you can build off of if you wish.

>>3878206
The barrels are staring at you.
The corpses are staring at you.
The walls are staring at you.
The FIREBLU is staring at you.

>>3878210
It is allowed (but not inherently designed for) any areas where you can't get up to or can only jump up into are not intentional and will be fixed. I need to tweak the bits of tan marble rubble/rocks that are floating in that one room; as it does require jumping that seems a bit finicky.

There are a lot of sectors rigged up to the same tag 6 as the rest of the floaters in the map. I will need to work on that later; but FOOD ANALOGY first.

>>3878214
THEY KNOW.

>>3878214
When you stare into a FIREBLU, the FIREBLU stares back

>>3878223
summon evileye

Very nice void areas too

>>3878214
>>3878221
>>3878223
>>3878241

>>3878251
SeEeEeee!~
Thats the sound that eyeballs make

>>3878262
I'll need to align those better later on. I see you found our "Familiar Faces Rugdemon"?

>>3878265
I'm probably gonna have to look for Familiar Faces, but the Rugdemon is awesome

>>3878274
Oh, you must not of been here when the joke was made about it. "Kegan's a nerd.png" should be in the archives somewhere.

>>3878280
https://desuarchive.org/vr/thread/3772465/#q3773748

Found it ___ 4u.

>>3878289
image in question.

>>3878265
After looking at >>3878295
I think they should be left misaligned as part of the joke. Plus, if anyone asks about it, that'll be our explanation.

>>3878306
I like you.

>>3878314
I had a very quick idea to leave that image in the map somewhere nearby as a secret/easter egg (with the possibility of a Cacodemon version of "all around me are familiar faces" playing when you find it/the switch for it, but that would need to be done by somebody else) because it made me laugh like the idiot I am.

>>3878317
It needs to be done

yo.

I've been eyein' turok 1 & 2. They released some remasters two years ago.

I've been told that the remaster for 2 is necessary due to FPS problems and the original PC ports being subpar but I'm not convinced on the remaster for 1.

Which one should I get? are they even retro?

>>3878160
>OECake

is this a modern version of the falling sand game? NICE

Hey /doom/, I need some help.

How do I make certain floor textures make a watery splash? I've got some new water textures that I want to behave like water.

The wiki has confused me. How do I into splashes? Will the water still splash if I make it a fake floor?

>>3878329
I think you define that in the TERRAIN lump.

>>3878317
>>3878323
Other "jokey" bits in the maps involved an older joke pertaining to the lift sound (greatly exaggerated with additional GNRNNRNNRNGNRRNGRRNGNRRNGNRRNGNRRN) and 20th century revenants, as if doomguy was some sort of Hell-Celebrity,

I mean, the pedestal in the original e1m8 is the basis for such a joke of course.

>>3878336
Also the animdefs doesn't like to play nice when I try to import the animated faces out of Shadowcastertex.

>>3878336
This seems interesting~

>>3878070
Made me think of

https://youtu.be/idvB-58uKjE?t=55s

>>3878160
>bonenology

>>3878325
The cutoff for /vr/ is a game or system released before 1999, usually. However, you can bring up remakes and non-/vr/ content as long as the context has something to do with /vr/ material.

For example, we can technically talk about Doom 4 in here, or at least compare it to the originals.

>>3878348
Hah, I could actually make an enemy do that. You know like the mech in district 9.

Would be really cool if there was a sprite set for some kind psychic power dude somewhere.

Lastly; I need to figure out if there's a reliable way to make a texture look like it's expanding and contracting.

It's for the sk_right/left/sloppys in the Red/Blackmarb room, make the dudes on the texture look like muscles.

>>3878332
I've got that bit, and I've been playing with stuff like warping textures. I'm just not sure what I need to add to TERRAIN to make stuff splash.

>>3878336
what map

>>3878358
>floor [optional] <flatname> <terrain name>

>>3878350
[sudden realization]
Is cyriak going to add CUSTOM MONSTERS to his next wad?

>>3878347
Implication will be better understood when I get the detail going in some of the better parts.

Basically, a small splinter of hell decided in exchange for not getting it's face inevitably blown the fuck off by YOU, they'd give a little bit of a nudge with some of their research; to give the UAC an actual edge/chance. I'm probably going to swap that for a knight, though. These guys may be given an area to appear in later, as part of a semi-slaughter gimmick.

The marines still have friendly fire on you though, which sucks (not really wanted for the design)

The UAC are idiots; but by damn should you never underestimate them.

Shame that the rest of hell found out about this little base/outpost.

>>3878361
The e1m8 that I'm working on.

>>3878370
Cyriak should make sprites for /pol/2.wad

>>3878357

>>3878354
Found this on a decade old Z-Doom thread. Not sure if it fits with the rest of what you're doing.

>>3878370
>Basically, a small splinter of hell decided in exchange for not getting it's face inevitably blown the fuck off by YOU, they'd give a little bit of a nudge with some of their research; to give the UAC an actual edge/chance.

LUCIFER'S GONNA FREAK

>>3878382
>Found this on a decade old Z-Doom thread. Not sure if it fits with the rest of what you're doing.
Thanks! What thread? I've been looking for various sprite custom made sprite sheets in the spriting carnival one, but it's really hard to search in it since some posts are just like "i made a thing" *posts amazing artwork*

>>3878368
So for <terrain name> I'd need to put "water" right?
something like "floor newwatertex water"

>>3878370
in the e1m8 area, one of your baron's is stuck

>>3878387
The most foolproof way is to open TERRAIN.txt in gzdoom.pk3 for reference.

You can use gzdoom.pk3 to find examples of lots of things.

>>3878386
This here: https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=15080&start=5805

I was looking for sprites from Bullfrog's Syndicate and ended up finding that instead.

>>3878393
Dammit. I'll have to fix him again.

>>3878403

>>3878403

http://culture.vg/reviews/videogame-art/not-art-doom.html

Damn...

>>3878471
Please don't post this criminal's work, even ironically.

>>3878397
That did it, thanks Anon.

>>3878398
There should be rips of Syndicate and Syndicate Wars on TSR.

Remember to not credit the ripper.

I have a wad that needs to be loaded with cc4-tex but I can't think of a way to have the sky in the wad override the one from cc4-tex.
MAPINFO will only work for zdoom and I'm shooting for boom compatibility.

Anyone know how to do this? I couldn't find any tutorials or whatever on it either.

>>3878471
>Doom was a huge step up from Wolfenstein — almost a proper game. (...)

No. I will not read any further.

>>3878502
frustratingly harder than it should be, sorry to say, because boom will only look at one set of texture definitions, the latest in the wad order loaded.

thus, you need to copy the TEXTURE1 and PNAMES lumps from cc4-tex into your wad, then edit the relevant sky texture definitions therein.

then all your users must remember to load cc4-tex first, then your wad, so your wads texture definitions override cc4-tex's.

this is probably why a lot of clowns end up pulling the whole of cc4-tex into their own wads, rather than faff about with this shit.

>>3878502
Shouldn't loading your wad last fix that?

What if you copied in the CC4 textures, and then use the "delete all unused textures" in SLADE? That would sidestep the issue.

>>3878501
Unfortunately, the only rips are of the SNES port. I'd prefer the Jaguar ones.

>>3878510
wasn't a lot of effort at all actually, thanks for the help. I guess I only need to specify cc4-tex must be loaded first.

>>3878512
now this sounds like a lot of work, cc4-tex is massive and I only use a handful of textures in comparison.

>>3878471
>mfw dead link
>so is everything insomnia.ac
Holy shit, it's the end of an era. Rest in RIP Anthony "Alex 'icycalm' Kierkegaard" Zyrmpas

Give me the gist of the article?

http://culture.vg/reviews/videogame-art/not-art-doom.html

There's nothing wrong with not liking your game, there's nothing against the rules that says I can't be critical towards it.

>i posted it again guys!

Figured it was a shitter.

>>3878471
>>3878542
Dude. Stop.

>>3878542
Is it not loading for anyone else? None of the icycalm-verse seems to work on my browser

>>3878546
in the last thread i assume you missed he was arguing it go into the OP

so yeah.....................
............................................
...

>after all this time, he's STILL doing this shit
Kinda makes you think, don't it?

Working on a dynamic enemy spawning system for DRLA, for those who like to live vicariously entrusting their life to the RNGods.

>All these gameplay mods with loads and loads of new weapons and no new enemies
>Barely any mods with just new enemies
Why

>>3878540
Select all, copy paste, and then click "Delete all unused flats/textures" doesn't sound like much work.

>>3878567
>tfw no quality mapsets with extra monsters that aren't just secret level guys replaced with boring bullshit that's kaizo for the hell of it like invisible plasma marines, flying blocks that shoot millions of revenant missiles and explode on death or efreets with a gorillion hitpoints

>>3878560
vicariously? i don't see how that word fits there, what did you mean?

Where do you guys get Textures and similar shit? Realm667 has some interesting ones but I'm interested on knowing if any other sources for them exist?

>>3878580
I wasn't aware of a button like that, good to know.

>>3878560
newer GZDoom support when? Why not, if it's not planned?

>>3878567
It's a little tougher to make new enemies balanced around the old weapons without completely breaking shit. Vanilla Doom has a very good harmony going on with its weapons and monsters.

>>3878606
GZDoom outright broke too many things for any of us to handle, and far too many to file any bug reports. So Yholl's decided to just drop support. Sorry.

>>3878591
Delegating your death to the dome of the doomed, the destructive, the RNG. By MAP30, your prayers will not be heard.

>>3878627
Well, that sucks. That really sucks. Maybe one day someone will unfuck DRLA for Yholl and make it compatible with the newest GZDoom and QZDoom.

>tfw was so sure I'd have my H2H map finished by the end of the first phase
>only just finishing up now ~2 months later

christ I'm a slow mapper

>>3878047
>People who use HD texture mods for Quake.

>>3878632
It would be nicer if someone would unfuck GZDoom, honestly. I'm certain other mods probably broke from recent changes.

>>3878635
I'm even slower. It's the end of phase 2 and I still haven't quite finished my map.

>>3878642
I think GZDoom will more or less unfuck itself when the zscriptification of everything will end.

>>3878191
>source_physics.gif

>>3878584
the AA monsters are great though.

Hey /scaly/, how many secrets in one map is too many? If I just keep adding secrets to my maps will the secret-finding experience be cheapened somehow?

>>3878684
A) I prefer fluffy
B) Depends on the size of the map and the quality of your secrets (as in, do they make me feel like indiana jones). I fucking love lots of secrets in general though.

>>3878687
>A) I prefer fluffy
At least it's not furry

that's what i meant

>>3878698
And yea did anon's anus split.

>>3877408
>>3877410
Okay what map

I want to listen to acapella version of the Doom music but all the videos on YouTube suck!

>>3878701
I think you're confusing me with someone else
>>3878724
I'd like to hear a violin cover of E1M8.

>>3878728
I was joking about the potential reaction of the person you were responding to.

Also seconding the violin cover.

What is the best texture and why is it fireblu

>>3878736
the best texture is ashwall3/flat11 because it has no discernable repeat width so you don't have to align it

I had intended to do another run of Doom II but I'm feeling burnt out. The levels aren't really doing it for me compared to the first game.

I'm wondering if I should bother with Final Doom or just start playing PWADs from now on.

>>3878729
The closest is this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O95vqQTWCMM

I really like orchestral, acoustic and classic renders of very modern tracks and musical styles. There's a really good piano cover of tool - schism on youtube for example, and "The Showhawk Duo" make some nice electronica-sounding tunes on acoustic guitars.

>>3878709
ad_swampy from the Quake mod Arcane Dimensions. Very good mod other than the two maps discussed there, go play it.

>>3878747
Have you played E4 of the first game? It's pretty good.

>I'm wondering if I should bother with Final Doom or just start playing PWADs from now on.
You can do both. Play some top tier boom maps then try final doom once you feel like it.

>>3878747
Play E1M4b, E1M8b, NERVE.WAD then move on to Quake

>>3878753
Already played E4, I really liked it.

>>3878758
I should probably get around to playing Quake, yeah.

>>3878763
All this time and you haven't played motherfucking Quake yet? What the hell anon, give it a shot.

You won't like it, though, because you'll go into it expecting the shotguns to be rampaging slaughterers of the masses and low-tier enemies to die if you sneeze on them, and will get nothing like what you expect.

>>3878763
>Already played E4, I really liked it.
I find it pretty underrated.

Anyway, both the final doom mapsets are leagues better than doom2 but are in turn overshadowed by many of the excellent wads the community has produced over the years, as should be expected.

>>3878767
I haven't played much of Duke, Unreal, or anything like that.

Except Marathon, inexplicably. For some reason I played that.

I will address this problem as soon as possible. I got some catch-up to do here.

>>3878768
Isn't there that Final Doomer weaponset? I could try that on my run, I suppose.

>>3878771
> I could try that on my run, I suppose.
I haven't tried those, but using Smooth Doom (turn on SSG gibbing, its amazing) and perkristian sound mod will make anything feel cool with no change to balance.

>>3878774
That'll come in handy. Thanks.

I've been stuck in a strange rut where I just sort of played Doom I & II on a loop without ever actually changing anything or playing anything else. That sense of "why the fuck am I doing this, there's other shit I could be playing" only just now set in.

Autism's a hell of a drug, I guess.

>>3878698
I printed the red version.

>>3878801
Nice wood paneling.

Doom's really made me appreciate tiled floors and wood/marble panel walls.

>>3878801
fucking hell, look at this bourgeoisie

>>3878801
You're cool and you should feel cool.

>>3878805
Not that guy, but I live in an area of my country that has a large pale green marble quarry, so there are apartment buildings with staircases entirely bedecked in the stuff.

>>3878805
>>3878813
>>3878816
I also printed this one. Sorry for the glare.

>>3878821
jesus christ are you royalty or something

>>3878826
I'm actually a Nigerian Prince.

>>3878839
niger please

>>3878821
That one is great as well.

>>3878826
It was like $5 on groupon to print them. Frames were $10. I also have these.

>>3878839
Actually being the prince of nigeria has to be an immensely frustrating experience.

>>3878845
Here's a better look after I finished framing them.

>when a map have only a couple hundred enemies is a breather episode

>>3878542
is there a tl;dr version
I'd rather not have to wade through, what I assume is a bunch of drivel

>>3878850
What's this for?

>>3878864
that is the assault tripod, aka freedoom's cyberdemon

What's the best modern Descent revival thing?

>>3878845
Where'd you get the fucking Doom 4 one? I want one.

>>3878897
http://www.ebay.com/itm/DOOM-4-New-Game-Art-Silk-Fabric-Poster-Print-13x20-24x36inch-004-/322172923468?var=&hash=item4b0300ae4c:m:m7XWmDyVJHk2XTlsS1K-BGQ

>>3878767
It took me until the second play through to appreciate Quake for what it is. My first run made me feel exactly as your spoiler described.

>>3878902
That's pretty fucking cheap.

Shipping seems like it'll take a while.
>as late as 5th of May

>>3878729
>>3878750
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IumtfeLun1g
This is the closest I could find off youtube

>>3878917
Yeah it's because it's coming directly from China. But that's the same link I bought it from.

>>3878932
Oh well, at least I didn't give a LOT of money to communists.
And it probably won't come with a colony of spiders embedded in it.

>>3878894
Overload, because it is made by the same team that previously worked in Outrage/Parallax Entertainment.

Stay away from Descent: Underground as that game is trying hard at cashgrab and being more PvP centered, they begun developing the Campaign only now and pretty sure it will suck.

>>3878698
>No one edited a itty-bitty chaingunner shooting at you into this pic.
Feels bad

Another update to my H2H Map. This time we've a silly crusher, the Crimson and Obsidian Man-Muscle Octagon has it's first five monsters added, and there are a bunch of additional tweaks across the board.

Give her another go and chew me out. Suggestions/Recommendations/Criticism extremely appreciated

https://www.dropbox.com/s/xpxrir5mzh04g09/e1m8.wad?dl=0

Anyone here have any Doom headcanons, perhaps some from their childhood? (Doomguy's real name, etc.)

(Made this one up a couple of years ago)
A friend and I came up with Michael Cloud as a name for Doomguy, based on Kevin Cloud (who provided the arms of Doomguy in his first person view) and Mike Dopud (the grunts and screams of Doomguy)

2 questins.
1 where did the carmack MMMM meme come from
2 how would i go about getting a shirt like pic related
also can i just say that i hate how noclips 45 MINUTE interview with john romero doesn't mention his new doom maps ONCE?

>>3879006
I once tried to go through all of the Top 100 Doom WADs on Doomworld and make up a storyline in my head explaining why every level happened

eventually I had an entire cast of characters I made up whenever I clearly couldn't be Doomguy in a mod; most of them were based on the deathmatch bots from Zandronum

what the fuck was wrong with me

>>3879012
The MMMM meme comes from the book Masters of Doom which mentions John Carmack saying Mmm after nearly every sentence.

I suppose you could get a quake shirt like that one from RedBubble
https://www.redbubble.com/shop/Quake

>>3879017
fuck i gotta read masters of doom sometime

>>3879012
John Carmack had a verbal tic. Hence the "MMMM"

It's a brain neuron thing, basically.

>>3879013
Nothing. I think it's perfectly fine to do this, hell Demon Eclipse's protagonist is canonically female.

>>3879025
a love triangle between Doomguy, Orion and Crash is not perfectly fine

I made mistakes

MISTAKES

>>3878998
Also, I would appreciate anybody being able to slap the animated texture (second one pictured here) out of the wad out of the same name into this map. When I try to define it in the Animdefs; it doesn't like to play nice (either not showing AT ALL or not animating)

Does anybody have any ideas on the "stretching and contracting" for the Sloppy1/2 / SK_LEFT/RIGHT? I intended to make them look like moving muscles.

The Archviles are meant to be spawned in later, but I needed them for a reference's sake.

>>3879031
JESUS FUCK

>neat underwater theme
>fantastic detailing with lots of unique textures for keycard consoles, laser doors, animated screens, etc.
>no bullshit secrets
>spiders and scorpions fucking shit up everywhere and grunts, enforcers and firebugs going full IF IT BLEEDS, WE CAN KILL IT
Oh man, Terror Fuma is so much better than Crucial Error it isn't even funny.

>>3879023
You don't even have to read MoD, you can hear it yourself in most older Carmack interviews.

>>3878642
It is a little fucking weird that nobody has managed to make splitscreen doom, or that GZdoom doesn't have MP support.

>>3878845
This motherfucker is the doom general in a nutshell

>>3878869
Working on Freedoom must be fun.

>>3879068
I also have these bad bois. I want the Pinky figurine though. Way too expensive right now.

What role does zion fill in the sea of doom 4-replacement mods?

Are there any cyberpunk / used future mapsets? I need something to play Psychic on. (and possibly Lithium)

>>3879046
>it isn't actually underwater, you just go through a tunnel that looks like it is
fuck, how retarded am I

>>3879073
>umaru
"no"

>>3879073
Is that the original dakota shotgun that was used in doom?
if so, fuckin 10/10

>>3879073
Oh hey, that's the mancubus from the DooM 3 special edition isn't it? I got the same one.

>>3879083
It technically is not the original. You really can't get the original anymore. But yes it is a Dakota. It's a couple years newer than the one they used.

>>3879085
I'm pretty sure it is. I got it from eBay though and not from the release.

>>3879013
That's a really cute kind of autism, anon.

>>3879086
You know, i've always wondered what that thing looks like from doomguy's point of view, could never find any images online. I know it might be obvious but i'm curious if they shopped any parts out or something.

>>3878968
>Overload
Thanks m8 this is exactly the kind of thing I'm looking for.

>>3879086
Dakota more like Dacote, am I right

>>3879089
Aye.

Nobody's stopping you from making a story-themed WAD; just do it nicely and don't bog down the player (See Dimension-Time-Space-Traveller, It's storyline-themed, but it's got a lot of dubious meat quality)

>>3879093
Not for the regular shotgun. The original Dakota version was not modified at all. This I guess I would say is a "2nd gen" and that's all you can find on eBay now, at least for me. The super shotgun was just a repaint of the regular shotgun's sprite.

>>3879103
It's important to remember these were almost certainly all just crappy dollar store toys, almost all of which just disappear at some point because they are so disposable.

>>3879073
>dakota pump
Nice.

>>3879109
Yeah they were all Toys R Us according to staff stories. They actually had the very original shotgun at Quakecon I believe, in a glass case.

>>3879115
Why don't we have an image of this?

>>3879118
We do, though.

>>3879118
They had the thing (along with a bunch of Punchatz's latex models they used to make the monsters) on display in their lobby some time ago, glass cases and all.

You can probably find photos of this still.

Is the red texture supposed to be blood? Why can no one decide whether it should deal damage or not? It can change from map to map when playing a wad.

>fiery lava texture is safe
>blue water texture hurts you
This shit should be illegal.

>>3879127
It's blood, yes.

>>3879127
>tfw quake never has a problem with this due to defining what property a brush has by its texture, so water is always water, slime is always slime and lava is always lava

>>3879132
So it's more limited?

I jest; but 3d floors that can move and/or have slopes on them would be dead useful for DOOM

>>3879134
>So it's more limited?
No, all it takes is changing one character in the file name to make your water act like lava, but thankfully that's beyond the point most people will go.

>>3879127
It is blood. But people use it as lava for some reason in some wads.

>>3879127
Well... some of the blood has AIDS in it...

>>3879138
>>3879127
It's simple.

There's SOMETHING in the LIQUID.

>>3879080
>https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=36152&p=684249

>>3879140
Yeah. Just be happy they didn't pull a dark forces or w/e and have a monster in it.

>>3878845

even from this distance I still can see that dark bar in the ultimate doom poster

>wandering around in my father's workshop
>checking some boxes with some old PC parts and other electronic stuff
>find pic related
>a Pentium III with 128mb RAM and a ATI Rage mobility m1
>everything in mint condition

I tested it barebones, just a monitor and a keyboard to boot it and checking the BIOS. Tomorrow I'm putting this inside a case, connecting a IDE HDD and CDROM and installing some pirated win98. Wich retro FPS can I run with this? I was thinking of trying out Unreal and Quake II wich I have never played (only Quake 1)

>Lithium
Holy shit. And people think Guncaster has too many features. What the fuck do I do in this menu?

>>3879148
Dark bar?

>>3879157
It's like the white bar but its patrons only count as three-fifths of a vote.

>>3879158

>>3879152
You probably won't be able to run Unreal with it solely because of the card. Quake II should be fine but I'm not sure if it's the Mobility version. Try to slap a Geforce Ti4200 in there and you should be set.

I have my Pentium II 400MHz rig under my desk with a GeForce 4 MX440SE (just had it laying around) and I still can't play Unreal at an acceptable framerate.

>>3879142
Are you SURE about that?

>>3879089
>>3879096

Thanks guys. I once thought of "retelling" my batshit insane story as a WAD series but never got around to learning how to map. I forgot most of it, but I suppose I could just make a mod either way someday.

I'm actually a huge Sonic fan, and Robo Blast 2 is how I got into Doom. The Sonic thing kind of explains the autism, now that I reflect on this.

Speaking of doing weird shit I also once tried to play Ghouls Vs Humans in singleplayer by using Zandronum's regeneration rune. Barely worked at all but seeing all the different ways things would react to Sjas's reflector screen was a lot of fun. If you did it at the last second you could "parry" an Archvile's flame attack and not take any damage, and a reflected Revenant missile would actually select and home in on a new target. Sometimes it would even go after the rev that shot it.

>>3879152
>>3879161
Actually, I forgot Unreal has a software renderer so you might possibly be good with that because of your P3.

>>3879157

i'm assuming he's talking about a very tiny but noticeable line in the M of DOOM that absolutely nobody bothers to fix in photoshop before uploading the doom cover to make a quick buck of it

>>3879169
you guys are the best general.

>>3879172
Oh yeah I know exactly what you mean now. It's in pretty much every poster though.

>>3879156
As a person that always ignored or didn't research guncaster. What is the purpose of it and Lithium?

>>3879170
Hey, it can't be as bad as my planned story thing

are you me?

>>3879161
>Try to slap a Geforce Ti4200 in there

Except finding one of those is imposible, and if you do it will cost you an eye. I actually found pic related in that box too, but apparently it doesn't work

>>3879172

why am i seeing this until now

my t-shirt was made using one of those

oh no

i'm retarded

>>3879179
Perhaps.

Level 20 really stretched my ammunition. I've never been so out of ammo before...

>>3879174
>>3879172
It's a compression artifact, and someone here did fix it a few years ago, hol up.

Here you are lads, Ultimate Doom poster without the compression artifact on the title.

>>3879184
>cost you an eye

http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2380057.m570.l1313.TR11.TRC1.A0.H0.Xgeforce+ti4200.TRS0&_nkw=geforce+ti4200&_sacat=0

>>3879191
And here's the lone logo, that fine friend fixed that too.

>>3879050
He's moved onto "on there"

>>3879186
It makes sense.

Let's turn tails blue, that'll really be original right guys! it technically is

How are you supposed to properly put this item into your maps?

>>3879176
for being stronk as fug

>>3879202
What do you mean by that? Are you having trouble with something?

>>3879202
However you like.

>>3879050
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SzWQUlbMhwA

>>3879206
>>3879205
I think he means "when's a good time to give these to the player"

>>3879205
What's the real point of it? Show the player where they haven't gone yet? The secrets they've missed? What lies ahead?
Should it show up early or late?

>>3879184
>impossible

literally any card (even Voodoo) that gives the performance needed for whatever rig someone wants to build from that time period can be found on ebay for less than $80 which is nothing if you truly enjoy the hobby. A very large number of them are coming from Latvia and Russia right now.

>>3879213
Small bossfight levels to let them know the killbox and where they can/can't go.

I don't like them much elsewhere.

>>3879213
I think all of these are valid.

The beauty of Doom is that there's so many creative ways to make a level.

>>3879190
>still using the gross default map for GZDoom

>>3879219
what would you recommend?

>>3879213
It would be better if a wad rigged in it to work like the scanner, showing enemy/item positions when you pick it up/multiple.

Otherwise, make it inaccessible/a prop until you want the player to be able to use it.

The point is to show the player the entire map except for what you have tagged as "dont show on automap" so you can sort of do what you like there.

>>3879223
Something that makes you uncomfortable in favor of catering to my own personal tastes, because I believe my autism is superior to yours.

>>3879219

Of all the goddamn things to care about, this is probably the stupidest.

>>3879223
The default black, yellow and white doom map desu.

I think it's menu_automap in console and you never need to change it again.

>>3879232
It is genuinely shit brown and shit tan with purple.

>>3879235
And so what?
Was your mother murdered by a guy wearing brown and purple?

>>3879235
>It is genuinely shit brown and shit tan with purple.
i don't really see how this is a problem unless those colors trigger you

Going to start quake, and honest opinion here: If I start on hard will the natural difficulty curve hit me on the ass midway into the game?

I didn't like the fact that the default difficulty on Doom was pretty much piss-easy half the time, but there was a point midway into Doom 2 where the difficulty cranked up a notch and it never seemed like I had enough ammo because the game intended me to find secrets from having beat the game on normal.

>>3879202
Never because I keep forgetting it exists.

>>3879240
>>3879241
of course the doom general would know nothing about color.

It looks better but

>>3879247
told ya.

You can even enable an overlay if you want so you aren't blind when checking your map. If you're into that kinda thing...

>>3879247
Jesus christ that looks awful.

>>3879247

brb stabbing my eyes out

>>3879246

You're a dumbass.

>>3879251
>>3879253
That's the default doom map you fucking brown and black, quake-shader loving cunts.

>>3879249
I like the one that lets you see flats/floor textures and sector lighting, like Duke Nukem 3D.

>>3879251
>>3879253
That's how it looked in the original .exe
But yeah, it's not the prettiest to look at.

>>3879247
OH BOY
RED ON BLACK

IT'S JUST LIKE GEOCITIES ALL OVER AGAIN

>>3879242
Nah. The difficulty curve in Quake is pretty even- so if you start on hard you'll start getting your ass kicked exactly three levels in.

You could always play on Medium, if you're "most people," but you're tough enough for Hard, ain'tcha?

>>3879141
Oh thank you.

I realize this is probably Zaneion shilling his own map at me but it looks pretty cool so I'll give it a try.

>>3879256
cool, i'm glad we've established the default doom map colors fucking suck.
you're seriously suggesting someone uses red on black and then get uppity when people suggest something else?

you're a goddamn lunatic.

>>3879242
I've never played it on hard. I played it on normal, then skipped to nightmare.

But, I'd recommend playing on normal first. It has a nice balance to it, and you probably won't be bored or find it too easy.

>>3879263
>not shilling your own map

>>3879242
Doom II's really fucking weird all around no matter what difficulty you play on. It starts out strong and then out of nowhere the game is just like "oh no hold on, sorry, I'm supposed to suck"

>>3879265
the default colors look like something you'd see on a computer terminal or minimap from aliens, something which was an influence to doom. The brown just looks like it's from a fucking game mod.

>>3879265
You all have autism.

People complain about brown. And others reply saying "y it matter what color map" then right after bitch about default colors.

So much autism.

Brown/nigger colored sucks. Default is meh but usable. We need a person to make a better map now.

>>3879263
Shit, i've been discovered.

Not that i even tried to hide from here since i started to post

>>3879269
Nightmare can be easier than Hard due to the broken Ogres and Shamblers.

>>3879247
I recommend changing the colors to various shades of green. Not terribly bright green, mind, but it's very easy on the eyes against a black void.

Change your arrow to something striking against all that green, like a vivid red. Maybe make teleports and exit sectors a solid white so that they pop out among all the other linedefs.

>>3879273
good thing absolutely none of that matters in terms of readability

which red on black is terrible at

>>3879274
Someone should make a Fallout green version. Because fallout is superior shooter than doom.

Triggered replies below.

>>3879176
Guncaster: Being a draaaaagonnnnnnnn
Lithium: For being a hacker. A pathetic creature of meat and bone. Panting and sweating as you run through my corridors. How can you challenge a perfect immortal machine?

>>3879269
I was a bad enough dude to beat Doom 2 on Ultra-Violence my first time through Granted it took me a few months

>>3879273
>AVP3
>Due to the extreme problems of Xenoborgs, an effective means of disabling them had to be invented. What wasn't anticipated was that trying to make their systems run DOOM effectively locked up the unit. It is not known why; the systems appear to be undamaged, only denied service.

>>3879280
You might be colorblind/blind if you think the highest contrast map is hard for readability.

>>3879190
Is this Alien Vendetta?

>>3879286

That's okay, you might be blind and retarded if you think red on black is good.

>only 62 enemies

Thank the stars

>>3879280
To be fair the vanilla Doom maps are a lot simpler in design. Your screen wasn't being flooded with hundreds of red and yellow shapes inside of other shapes.

>>3879286
Not An Argument

Found a Shadilay midi for anyone who wants it
http://www.file
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https://soundcloud.com/pok-mon-clover/pepe-shadilay

>>3879270
>implying I finish maps

>>3879279
Yeah i use my automap that way and it looks good, everyone whose play Doom in Newschool Source Ports should customize the automap like this, we're not in 1993 anymore anyway.

>>3879273

Whether or not something "looks like something you'd see on a computer" is probably the worst justification for something that affects gameplay.
Let the dude pick the colors he wants. If he wants brown and tan, let him fucking have brown and tan. Hell, let him have green and purple.

This is torridGristle-tier autism, really.

>>3879279
Change the colors to green and purple so that you get your daily dose every time you open the map.

>>3879287
Ow the edge.png

>>3879310
He didn't pick brown and tan, the point was that Gzdoom defaults to this shit brown and most people don't know you can change it or care.

>>3879317
yeah, red on black does that

There goes doomworld.

S'Arais will be voted best newcoming mapper at this rate.

>>3879301
Somebody already made Trump Doom and somebody already made /pol/.wad, you're too late for your memeing to be effective.

There goes Doomworld

Is it just me or are Quake's weapon anims fucking lazy?

>>3879312
I can get my daily dose by finding secret sectors

Did they just gut Doomworld and replace it with the forums? What the hell happened?

>>3879340
Quake 2 and 3 have good animations but 1's viewmodel anims are pretty simplistic

>>3879340
>literally the first fucking game to even HAVE fully 3D viewmodels and enemies, animated frame by frame
>fucking lazy
Explain your reasoning.

>>3879360
is Quake 1's environment true 3D or some sort of approximation?

something about how choppy everything looks and moves in vanilla always felt weird

I'm that anon who confessed to having not played Quake yet, for context; wanted to know more about it before playing

>>3879360
hold it motherfucker

it may be the first fps but not the first game.

>>3879330
I didn't make it, found it on /pol/

>>3879360
>what is descent

>>3879340
They're all very low poly and have high rates of fire, there's not much room for animations.

>>3879360
Doom's anims for most weapons, especially for the time were incredibly nice and felt satisfying for every single gun, even the rocket launcher.

Quake is clearly capable of weapon model animation as the nailgun sides rock back and forth and still... still for no reason the double barrel shotgun simply moves in and out of view because I guess that's supposed to be "reloading"?

Given their pedigree for this kind of stuff, and the fact that it was pretty clearly possible given what else they did with the tech it does come off as a bit lazy that some, hell most of the guns have fairly limited animation.

>>3879369
Despite Descent being the real first true 3D world game with models, the HUD was 2D and the models were pretty much static, the few animations the enemies do is just a simple movement in their cannons, while Quake 1 had animations, full 3D world AND HUD (Weapons).

Descent only had full 3D on everything in Descent 3 in 1999 alongside Quake 3.

whens the final doomer update

>>3879363
True 3D, no rendering tricks going on here other than culling what the player can't see to increase performance. Everything in the maps are made with brushes (basically any sort of convex polygonal shape used in mapping) of varying shapes and sizes that then have textures applied and are sometimes defined with extra bits telling it to move like a door or float like a platform.

>something about how choppy everything looks and moves in vanilla always felt weird
The enemies move very choppily, yes, aside from the actual animations themselves. Most every sourceport fixes this by interpolating their movement- enemies jumping around a foot at a time is acceptable on a 320x200 screen with auto-aim, not so much at modern resolutions and framerates with no aim assist where the jerkiness is much more apparent.

>>3879365
A non-first person shooter wouldn't have viewmodels, would it? You doofus.

>>3879369
Used a 2D overlay for the vehicle cockpit and sprites for pickups, not to mention very simple enemy "animations" and the less advanced- yet reasonably faster- map format.

>>3879375
Quake's weapons fire much faster, you don't have time for a meticulously paint-over'd shotgun break and reload. Aside from the game being rushed as hell, they went for gameplay over visuals and figured who honestly cares about that type of thing?

>>3879386
>Aside from the game being rushed as hell, they went for gameplay over visuals and figured who honestly cares about that type of thing?

I do. Weapon feedback is part of what makes a game like Doom so memorable and have such a lasting impact. Hell, you'd probably call the guns in Doom "wimpy" if not for Trent's sound design.

>>3879391
>call the guns in Doom
I meant quake.

>>3879391
That's actually one of the biggest complaints about Quake from Doom players, and the fact you specifically mentioned the super shotgun in >>3879375 makes me reinforce my theory that Doomers are just spoiled by their nuke-in-a-tube shotgun, shoddy overall balance and waves of enemies that exist to do nothing more than get gibbed and inflate the level's enemy count.

>>3879386
Interesting, thanks for teaching me. I'll go pull up that "wanna play some quake" chart in a bit, I suppose.

>>3879398
>waves of enemies that exist to do nothing more than get gibbed and inflate the level's enemy count.
have you ever considered that maybe they're there because it's fun to gib them? That having fun is the most important part of the gameplay?

>>3879398
I'm not.

I completely understand the point of Quake's gameplay with the feeling of fighting a tougher enemy than you and besting it through mobility and smarts rather than pure firepower and holding M1 like Doom has.
However, that doesn't mean the weapons need to look like absolute shit and basically could be animated with a "move forward and back" slider.

You can jerk off your own opinion on Doom all you want, but that's not what I'm saying, and that's not where I'm coming from on this.

>>3879404
have you considered that you're having artificial fun

>>3879405
>>3879398
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a33qR4B392E

>>3879407
>artificial fun
have you considered that you're a fgt

>>3879407
I repeat...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lvaU9CaSeCE

>>3879407
good thing the chemicals are real no matter the source of the trigger that released them ey?

>>3879432
I'M GONNA HUH YOUR HEAD OFF AND HUUH DOWN YOUR NECK

>>3879403
Remember to get Quakespasm for singleplayer. Don't fall for the DarkPlaces sham.

>>3879404
So you have more fun by mindlessly mowing down a bunch of cannon fodder than actually having to navigate around, often involving heavy vertical movement and aiming, and use weapons other than your super shotgun?

Do you also enjoy visual novels?

>>3879405
>weapons need to look like absolute shit
Now that's an opinion. Personally I find early 3D way better looking than anything sprite based as it scales infinitely to your resolution and isn't nearly as limiting as sprites. Plus, it's more interesting to see how the developers worked around limitations, using low polycounts and textures that suggest detail rather than try to make a 256x128 texture map so detailed it becomes an ugly blotch of pixels- and certainly more interesting than taking a picture of a toy gun and/or clay model, shrinking it down and pasting it on the screen.

>basically could be animated with a "move forward and back" slider.
Even though that also covers most of the weapons in Doom? The shotguns stand out with their intricate animations- the pistol, rocket launcher, and plasma gun would all be a simple 'move forward and back' slider in 3D, the minigun is a simple spin (which is done better by the SNG due to having more than two frames of animation to work with), and the BFG doesn't even have an animation other than some lights blinking.

>>3879407
FUN IS A BUZZWORD

>>3879276
Holy shit this is the best looking Doom map I've ever seen

Come on. I come here to get away from /v/

>>3879443
I'm >>3879404
And there's obviously place for both. I happen to love VNs but that's UNRELATED.

>>3879450
>saying quake is superior to doom is /v/
what universe is this
I mean i get that it says DOOM THREAD but come on

>>3879398
Quake 2 super shotgun isn't OP like Doom 2's yet it's infinitely more satisfying than anything in Q1.

>>3879462
Nothing in Q2 is satisfying in any infinite aspect, the total lack of muzzleflash on ANYTHING fucking kills it for me.

>>3879443
>Even though that also covers most of the weapons in Doom?
Not really. The pistol still has an animation, the plasma gun has a recharge/cooldown animation that gives it personality, even the rocket launcher which I already mentioned in my first post as an example of doom's worst anims being better than quake's best, still has an actual muzzle flare to it.

The BFG has real feedback to it anyways, although the anims are small, the plasma ball is what you think of with the BFG. The minigun is also simple but it actually freaking moves. The Doom animations even at their laziest aren't just moving an image back and forth.

>>3879462
Actually I take that back fragging people in QW with rockets and lightning gun spam with instant switching is quite satisfying.

How is QUMP going along?

>>3879468
Stay pleb (and wrong)

>>3879480
>le 1-click-kill face that ruined quake mp forever

>>3879480
>screenshot message
>999 ammo
haha what

>>3879443
>So you have more fun by mindlessly mowing down a bunch of cannon fodder than actually having to navigate around, often involving heavy vertical movement and aiming, and use weapons other than your super shotgun?
Jesus christ, get the stick out of your ass.

>>3879448
Thanks, one thing that i am proud to make in the Doom community is that style of mapping, though those in the Mapset are kinda outdated and still doesn't have so many lightstripes and stuff of the kind besides specific rooms, unlike my maps from 2014 to now.

>>3879459
No, just general shitposting and "hurr hrr artificial fun". Why can't things be civil?

Also anybody who doesn't like both games has no soul

>>3879485
beta screenshot maybe? ranger's face in the lower left too

>>3879482
Quakeworld makes Quake 2 look balanced.

>>3879498
I just find it amusing how they couldn't bother getting rid of the capture message

>>3879497
>Also anybody who doesn't like both games has no soul

Not only both games, it needs another one too.

>>3879506
Liking or disliking Hexen is a litmus test for someone's age.

>>3879506
heretic for me is one of those games I find are completely unpalatable outside of the original maps.

Duke MEGA? Easy to download all the other guys.

>>3879482
>implying you even play mp if you think this

>>3879506
>that feel when snuck in a nitromummy in an obscure closet in one of my maps

>>3879507
Hexen wasn't really very good back then and it isn't very good now.

>>3879542
case in point

>>3879516
https://mega.nz/#!cIQEUCqR!76OTZpLgzcEq6hVC6L0eEDxkOy37BisvglimZYHGyEA

all the grp files you need just for you anon

>>3879549
Yeah, tell yourself that 60 levels of monotonous keyhunting and switchhunting makes it a forgotten gem that didn't sell as well because the masses just didn't understand it.

It tried to be "Heretic but sophisticated" except it turned it was "Heretic but boring"

>>3879584
further proving my point

>>3879210
id say, middle, usually in a secret?

>>3879309
ooh that does look sexy

>>3879067
Splitscreen: Adding proper splitscreen to the old software renderer is difficult because it really wasn't programmed for the task. Throw in the many, many years of changes ZDoom made, and it becomes quite a feat! The QZDoom folks are working on cleaning the old renderer up under the hood, and splitscreen is on their to-do list. It's just... gonna take some doing.

(yes i know doom legacy had splitscreen, but lol doom legacy)

Multiplayer: GZDoom has the same ol' crufty peer-to-peer netcode as ZDoom had. The netcode rewrite in Zandronum is its own set of crimes, and the massive amount of work required to merge the two together is why Zandronum lags so far behind GZDoom feature-wise. Network play hasn't been forgotten (ZScript menus have to do things in specific ways to be properly networked) but I suspect there are bigger fish to fry right now with scriptifying anything and everything.

I forgot I had this

>>3879262
>WE ARE SO GOOD WE PLAY ON HARD

Then the author of E1M3 had you encounter a Shambler in a very tight space and spawn another if the first one dies.

I'm sorry, this all sounds like something a prick would say and do.

>>3879631
Sounds like you need to get good.

>>3879636
Getting good at managing annoying design choices unforeseeable to the player doesn't make those designs any better.

>>3879640
You can just run by them, you know.

>>3879643
>doesn't go for 100% kills

Pshaw!

>>3879646
Kill them, then. You've got a nailgun, it should be easy!

>>3879494
>though those in the Mapset are kinda outdated and still doesn't have so many lightstripes and stuff of the kind besides specific rooms, unlike my maps from 2014 to now.
You make it sound like a bad thing, like in your picture related that's overkill with the lights for me. The Doom Reinforced images in the thread are a more balanced amount.

>>3879649
I prefer the double barreled shotgun. Shamblers are relatively easy to bait into their melee attack.

>>3879654
No matter what you use Shamblers are easy to bait, the shotfuns just take longer. Either way at that spot a bigger deal is the twenty floating kidney fuckers that will chip damage you to death and/or float up behind you and prevent you from moving so you get tagged by the Shambler's claws.

>>3879657
Oh and don't forget you're free to retreat into the hallway before the bend (where the zombies spawn in) because Shamblers are too tall to fit inside so you can peek it to death with ease.

>>3879584
>"Heretic but boring"
something about what a generic 90's cereal blend would call an Ox if they had one as their mascot and a synonym for stupid.

>>3879650
I wouldn't say "bad" but still not in a good pattern to fit the Industrial part like i do with the recent maps, the picture i linked is from Industron CTF, it represents the apex of the style in terms in light detailing, but in my newest map (currently in-dev) the visuals returned to something more like what you see in Doom Reinforced, with most of the rooms having at least fine details with the lightstripes.

Dumb question out of pure curiosity.

Has anybody been able to make a wide open area without walls as of yet in any of the older raycasting engines like Doom and BUILD? I know BUILD is technically still being worked on (because Bombshell's "BUILD PREQUEL" which seems to be on hold), but still, just something that popped into my head as I remember that was one of the big limitations of those engines.

>>3879695
By "without walls" do you mean an open area that eventually cuts off and stops, but without walls? Or an area that stretches into infinity?

We can do the former, definitely. As for the latter I'm not 100% sure. You can render horizons that stretch on forever but they aren't actually playable fields.

I don't know if you can make an endless field you can walk on, though. At least not without some trickery like using teleporters to wrap the player around. I'm no expert in the end, so I imagine someone else has a better answer.

>>3879385
When Shivers is no longer of maximum irl things

>>3879719
Never mind apparently I just have to yell at him at the correct time.

>>3879763
we should organize a schedule to dictate when we yell at him

that way he'll work constantly

>>3879669
Hey, have you ever made any small-ish DM maps in that style?

>>3879771
yes good

>>3879784
a few years from now we should also criticize duke builder's interface

with any luck the guy will flee to make an editor for another game, and we will repeat this cycle

decades from now, in a fit of pure insanity, my hope is that he will recreate the blood source code out of pure rage

>>3879785
This is an excellent and well thought out plan.
I approve completely.

>>3879507
>>3879507
You mean a game with excellent design and feel to it ruined by boredom that is 4 weapons per class, slaughtertaurs and circlejerking around hubs?

>>3879785
is this the beginning of a plan to engineer an artificial army of kaisers, and if yes can we start them on marathon or the dark forces/outlaws engine

thanks

>>3879820
At least one of the KaiserKlones need to work on a PC port of TimeSplitters 2.

>>3879136
hmm... Now you just gave me an idea.

>>3879830
There is a rough, two-level demo of a multiplatform HD port done by a five person team, hidden as an easter egg in Homefront: The Revolution.

It's a little rough and all the sounds have a reverb effect like it's being played in a sewage tunnel, but it's more than the nothing we had before.

>>3879837
Holy shit, I had no idea. I really hope it gets completed and released stand-alone.

>>3879840
Given that the development team was sold off to another publisher during the development of Homefront on account of one of CryTek's many many battles with financial cancer, I wouldn't hold out hope of a full release. It's just nice that SOMETHING is there, right?

>>3879842
>It's just nice that SOMETHING is there, right?
Absolutely. But I still want everything! Would be cool if some other dev team bought the rights, code and assets of off crytek to finish it, or maybe if they delegated it themselves in-house.

More stuff. I need to sleep. Mostly glows and voodoos, some texture changes.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/2obptowjg30o8hl/e1m8.wad?dl=0

>>3879861
*anomalous

>>3879863
anonymalous

>>3879863
It's a temp name anyway (probably)

>>3879202
At end, preferably as secret so people can use it to figure where other secrets are.

>>3879474
we're finalizing our maps, got a discord, discussing things, learning stuff, frantically speed mapping (or not).

I had to start from scratch about a month ago but I'm almost done and doing things right this time (no "degenerate edge" errors..)

So yeah we should have a thing at some point.

>>3879405
>besting it through mobility and smarts rather than pure firepower
nah its about blowing shit up with the rocket launcher and quad damage. No brains involved, just run and gun, same as doom. Just has better atmosphere and music.

>>3879071
the stuff i do for it, i find fun. otherwise i wouldn't do it!

>>3879202
several ways

[0. small maps don't really need them, except see 5. below. they're objects more for large maps.]

1. an early secret in a large, labyrinthine level, that is extremely hard to find unless you already know it's there, as an aid to replay value.

2. a late secret in a large, labyrinthine level, relatively easy to find, so when the player reaches the end he can check if he's missed anything and go back for it if he wants.

3. bonus points for combining 1+2 into two sides of the same secret

4. somewhere in the middle, as a random secret in a large level, like somebody else said (cf. e1m7)

5. an obvious pickup right at the start of a simple layout, as a subtle indication you're not meant to go exploring here, since it is, for example, a boss level (cf. e1m8)

6. combine it with careful attention to the automapping linedef flags to produce something out of the ordinary. in other words, grove.wad.

>>3879783
Actually i haven't tried, my experience with PvE maps, the last times i tried map for PvP it was CTF and ended by nobody playing them too much because they had certain design flaws.

>>3879915
Ah, okay. Anyway I asked because if you had made one, it'd probably be suited for rocket jumping and such and would work well as a testing ground for my project.

Die, die, time to die.
The math I put into this will probably make some people want to stab me.

>>3879928
At least explain what we're looking at.

Some words for the two and a half people who play MetaDoom...

1.) I've updated the GitHub version to transition a core piece of code shared by every monster, as well as the entire Lost Soul family of monsters, to ZScript. Nothing SEEMS to have broken judging by a quick play of a couple of Master Levels, but I'd appreciate it if some folks grabbed the Github version (https://github.com/TheKins/MetaDoom)) and kicked it around a little bit.

2.) I'm trying to figure out what to do about this gross motherfucker, and I'm at a loss. I have all the cool crazy sounds from Doom 2016, and some ideas about what to do for gameplay, but the art side of things is a real problem - there aren't any applicable variants of the Spiderdemon's design I can borrow from like I could with the Doom 64 Cyberdemon, hacking together my own sprites for new moves will be painful, and the character is frankly too big and detailed to ask any pixelart friends to pull a favour and draw a new version. Any ideas on how to handle this?

maybe i'll just poorly resize and recolour the doom 64 arachnotron...

>>3879936
Example distribution of DRLA's new adaptive difficulty mode. As you progress further onward, it gets harder and harder, spawning more nightmare/cybernetic/armageddon enemies.

>>3879938
I hope it resets on death exits!
What's the danger stuff about? does it count the amount of monsters in a level and distribute a certain amount of "danger"?

>>3879938
How did you manage to do all that? Also this new HUD is pretty gud.

>>3879937
Just please don't do this

>>3879941
Yeah, don't worry, the danger level is an inventory item on the player. When you die, it clears.
The danger level is an internal balancing mechanism in DRLA, triggered by various things like completing a map, which increases the difficulty over time with various means.

>>3879943
MATH
also ryan is a frisbee

>>3879938
Ammo counter should be larger 2bh

>>3879928
>>3879938
>>3879946
this is the sort of thing i like to see. i want to encourage it as much as i can. keep up the excellent work.