/vr/ - Retro Games

Oh yeah and I noticed this. I didn't see this on my first playthrough. It's a news article talking about MEME WAR! Motherfucking MEME WAR!

I killed all the terrorists from the subway. I gathered their bodies so that there would be no evidence of the takeover.

>>3840786
>SECRETS are LIVES

Love me some vanilla Deus Ex.

Sometimes, though, GMDX really gets me turned on.

see givemedeusex dot com

Man, one of the things I really love about this game is that you can't get a game over for anything (except dying). You can fuck up every mission, have people die or shit go terribly wrong, and the game still lets you keep playing.

One of my favorite examples of this is in Battery Park, with the hostages in the subway. You can sneak past them and just get on the train without rescuing them or subduing the NSF guys. When you get off, Paul will chew you out about leaving the people there.

It's little things like that which elevate this game into something sublime.

>>3840771
Not retro.

>Mister JC Denton, in the flesh - as dark and serious as his brother

>>3841741
It's retro enough, and this is not the first Deus Ex thread that has been on /vr/. DX was developed before the year 2000, so it's definitely retro by the rules of this board.

>>3841546
>get to the UNATCO base for the first time
>explore the whole place through and through like you would do in any other game, even check out the bathrooms
>go talk to Manderley
>he tells your new mission objectives
>as you're about to leave his office he says "Oh, and stay out of the women's bathroom, JC"

How are you supposed to break the doors if you don't want to waste lockpicks? Some of the doors have health, but they can't be broken with melee weapons. Doors can be shot with shotguns and other semi-heavy weapons.

There is this one cabinet in unatco base that is always locked and has health, but it doesn't break with shotgun. It does break open with LAM, but I don't want to waste those sweet sweet little peppers on that.

>>3841965
grenades

this game has very boring looking levels, which is weird considering what Epic did with the engine 2 years before deus ex was even released. I don't get how they could be so incompetent. The mechanics are also incredibly poor with no depth for pretty much any of them.

>>3841962
>Expecting a show? Don't think I won't report this.

>mfw can't kill Gunther when he's against you for the first time
>mfw have to surrender like a little bitch

What a shame. My version of JC would never ever surrender. Also, it seems that there was originally a plot line where you could side with UNATCO, but it was then probably scrapped because of time/money limitations. Excellent game anyway, but damn it would be sweet to play as shady government MIB Denton.

>>3841965
As >>3842329 said, use grenades, or(when you get it) the Dragon's Tooth Sword.

>>3842506
Do your worst flatlander woman

How come some of the UNATCO soldiers have names? You only see them once and it's not like you go through any meaningful conversations with them. It's pretty distracting to have a bunch of look alike soldiers around, and then handful of them have names as if they are somehow special characters.

>>3844090
who cares

>>3841546
wish I could play this game for the first time again, I dont even have any friends or family who wants to play it ;_;

>>3844142
>have steam friend who is big fan of Deus Ex: Human Revolution and Mankind Divided
>suggest him to check out the OG DX
>he says it's too aged for him
>mfw

I even gifted him the original X-COM because he enjoyed the remake, but he hasn't touched that one either. Fucking casuals.

>>3840779

>>3842904
when I first played the game I thought that was an option while joining Paul. It would've been neat indeed.

>kill Manderley
>get his body to the helicopter and carry him all the way to the Hong Kong

Servers you right, you two faced asshole.

AYO HOL UP
How come the older augmented people in original DX are shown as monstrosities and mockeries of human form with their disgusting bulky augmentations, but in new Deus Ex prequels the augmentations are slick and lean like sports cars? Look at Adam Jensen, did Ferrari design his arm?

>>3844381

Because the prequels are basically just fanfiction. HR and MD have very little aesthetic or technological chronology with the original game.

In Deus Ex, the world is still mostly like ours. There are robots and augmentations but people still drive cars and newspapers even still exist. In HR everything is on digital books and floating cities and the world looks like a Final Fantasy game.

>>3844381
Because graphical limitations.
There are plenty of guys in HR who have ugly augments too anyway.

>>3842334

Take a look at the features of the mod Give Me Deus Ex GMDX.

>>3844971
>the world looks like a Final Fantasy game

You are so correct.

New Deus Ex are in name only.

>>3841965
grenades

gep rockets

assault rifle HE grenades

dragon tooth sword. mastered + combat enhancement + targeting = can open practically any door in the game that's not INF

sniper rifle. mastered + targeting = same.

If you want to cheese. Start lockpicking something then press F1. Wait until around the time the lockpicking should be done, then escape the menu. Works with multitools too.

>>3844280
>we never got the option of siding with UNATCO when we meet Paul at the 747

>>3844971
Actually the prequels are anything but fanfiction. Human Revolution was originally going to be a completely different game, but had the Deus Ex IP slapped on it mid way through development. Mankind Divided continued on firmly as a Deus Ex game and so was obligated to shove in characters who wouldn't even be older than 25 at the time it was set.

This game makes me want to wear a leather trench coat, but I bet I would look rather silly wearing one. What a shame.

some fancy video if you charge forward while paul waits for alex to finish

also Remember Deus Ex Clan Wars that become Project SnowBlind

>>3846097
no it looks good! especcially with some blade.

badass!

What's the best weapon in the game and why it's this bad boy?

>>3846097
Maybe you should try GET A JOB

>>3846683
>He said this while browsing 4chan

>>3846697
I think the government made me unemployed on purpose.

>>3846673
Pistol skills + upgraded pistol with laser sight and scope. It's like a quick mini sniper.

>>3846683
He has to wait 2 years or get his parents to sign a work permit though.

>>3844381
All I wanted was a fappable technofreaky looking young Anna Navarre, instead they gave us a gold-tinted bizarre fashion show.

>>3846673
Don't know what's the best, but the coolest one is here.

>>3846673
Are we talking about the unmodded official game? The crossbow is garbage compared to the stealth pistol. It's only good for underwater fighting.

>>3846793
Are we talking about the unmodded official game? Putting both a scope and laser on a gun ruins the pinpoint accuracy of the laser sight. Never put the two things onto one gun.

The best thing to do is put a laser on a stealth pistol to use as a close to mid range weapon. and put a scope on the regular pistol to use it as a sniper. Master pistols and put a couple accuracy mods on the scoped pistol and the aim won't move.

>>3847323

Let's talk about GMDX

Deus Ex is great, but some areas feel like they're missing something. Like that empty area around the compound in Hong Kong. Feels like there was supposed to be some other locations around it. It's so empty it's eerie.

Also, how come most areas are so dark with the regular gamma setting? Most of the lamps are off by default so you have to go turn them all on if you want to have some lighting other than the vending machines.

>>3844381
Because technology becomes more efficient over time. JC had newer tech, Anna and Gunther had outdated models. It's pretty much a plot point that Anna and Gunther resented JC for making them obsolete.

>>3847615
That's not his point, he meant to ask why Jensen and the other mechas in HR and MD don't look freakish like Anna and Günther. Also I only recall Günther being butthurt at JC for having better augs, Anna didn't seem to give a fuck, she just lived to kill and saw augs as mere tools.

>>3846097
That kid looks better in a trenchcoat than I do.

>>3846683

Okay, where?

>>3847635
See:
>>3845937

>>3840771
as others have said. use GMDX mod if you don't already have it. its just an objective improvement in every way

>>3847862

Waiting for Ash to release version 9 soon.

Version 8 is a massive polish to a classic game.

givemedeusex.com

>>3847847
UNATCO

>>3848164
No, Savage.

>dragon's tooth blade can literally be turned off so that only the handle remains
>still takes 4 full blocks of inventory space

It's a great weapon, but what the fuck why does it take so much inventory space? Fucking bullshit.

Let's try some word association. First word: Gep gun.

Aesthetic

>>3848835
BITCH

>>3848579
game balance

>>3848987

I'm a good neighbor.

>steal dragon's tooth
>kill maggie chow
>place maggie chow's body on the dragon's tooth holding dome

>kill maggie's maid
>throw her body in toilet

>>3849352
what a rotten way to die

>>3844365
>kill Manderley
>get his body to the helicopter and carry him all the way to the Hong Kong

I used a non-lethal take down took him a bit further.

>>3849427

That is insane. I would watch that Let's Play.

>>3849352

>Not jumping to her apartment from Jock's apartment, breaking through the glass with a sword after landing on the tiny space of land between her window and the outside area, then killing her before she has time to react.
>Not shooting a LAW at her apartment from the ground floor, gibbing her instantly.
>Not scaling her apartment building with LAMs, then having a chat with her while you're on the other side of her windows.

>>3849427
How does one carry Manderley through Hong Kong without raising alarms? Couldn't get him any further than the ground level elevator without people calling the police.

>>3844971
You're my nigga, but I don't know why this is so hard explaining to people. Constantly, I get people saying "Why don't you like HR?" or "Why do you think HR isn't that good a sequel(prequel)?" not even speaking mechanically game-wise, it DOES feel like fanfiction and I got a lot of weird looks trying to explain how I feel about it.

>OG Deus Ex
>books
>newspapers
>cars
>helicopters
>regular airplanes
>public telephones
>landline telephones
>bulky PDAs
>augmentations look like legit machine parts

>Deus Ex: Human Revolution, a prequel to DX
>every single paper is replaced with sci-fi paper-thin tablets
>helicopters and planes replaced by spaceship looking sky-cars powered by ufo technology
>no telephones, everybody has nano-tech telepathy superpowers
>augmentations look like second skin

Original Deus Ex was obviously set in the futuristic worldview of pre-smartphone generation, and the later Deus Ex games made the future look more futuristic by our modern standards. Obviously Human Revolution's future makes more *sense* by modern standards, but it obviously fucks up the Deus Ex canon.

OG DX was released when most people still didn't have mobile phones or internet connection, and they couldn't know that some mundane everyday tech in DX (ie. public phones) would be obsolete in few years after the game release.

Original Deus Ex reminds me of Strange Days. Both visually and story wise.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wE2dO6UyK3Q

Goddamn I love 90s cyberpunk. It was when technology was bulky and geeky. Nowadays all sci-fi technology looks like designed by Apple.

>kill Anna Navarre before after refusing to surrender
>learn later her killswitch code
>mfw I learned that I could had killed her later by the most awesome way of just saying the killswitch words out loud

Welp, just another reason to replay this game later.

It kinda sucks how the dead/unconscious bodies don't explode into gibs when thrown from roof. If JC jumps from tall enough building he's splashed into pile of bloody goo when he hits the ground.

Also, it seems that the unconscious bodies are immortal. After prodding some guy to sleep he seems to take no damage from pistol even if it's a headshot. You can't even drown them. They die on explosions, but it would be sweet to execute them when they're asleep like in Hitman. Unconscious and dead seem to be the same thing on regular enemies. I guess it has more effect on characters important to story if you want to incapacitate them but not kill them.

Does Deus Ex have some proper coop mode? Some of the maps are big enough for multiple players and it would be cool to have players approach the main target from all the possible routes at the same time.

Imagine someone snatching the dragon's tooth while someone else snipes Maggie Chow from Jock's apartment.

>>3850348
Sorry to disappoint but on any levels where carrying an unconscious person made things especially inconvenient I would just store manderley until I had cleared a few sections.

I am kind of tempted to do the manderley world tour again properly though.

>>3850921

Y E S

Take Manderley on tour.

If not video, take many screenshots.

Would love to see.

*clip clop*
*clip clop*
*clip clop*
*clip clop*
*clip clop*

>>3851502
HUP

>>3844381
If you think that looks slick and perfect, then you may be certifiably retarded.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kdCp7sxb6-0

Saw this in my feed and got hit by a nostalgia wave. Did anyone else play Snowblind on PS2/Xbox? It felt like the best shooter ever when I played it, and now I know I'm not the only one who played. It was a while later I found out what Deus Ex was and had no idea this was gonna be a sequel

>>3851641
It's only 6 bucks on steam so I'm kind of curious to check this out. Doubt there's any torrents for it

>>3840771
I played this game on it's NA release day via piracy. I was amazed. It made my stutter w/ voodoo 3 stutter so insanely i couldn't beat the first level. I enjoyed it a lot though and played it for hours. Revisiting it 3 or 4 years ago, i found it unplayable after 10 minutes or so, but for different reasons. It had aged like a white woman. Without grace or charm. It played like a dog, but it wasn't because of my pc specs this time. Sad

>>3851527

EAUGHHH

>>3851641
>>3851649
Yes, it's really good i'd say it's worth $6

>>3851653
Made my p2 266mhz w/ voodoo 3 stutter

(On phone)

>>3851641
It looks mediocre but the price seems fair

>>3851653

Try again with GMDX ... please senpai

>>3851641
Holy shit I played this on my PlayStation
There were big tanks and stuff you could drive in multiplayer, it was pretty neat

>>3851653
>It had aged like a white woman. Without grace or charm. It played like a dog, but it wasn't because of my pc specs this time. Sad
We can't all have your inferior taste, thankfully.

Reminder that the System Shock games are superior hackercore than Dude Sex.

>>3851641

There's a free Project Snowblind Demo on Steam !

160.9 MB download

>>3851536
Look at that screenshot, his arm augs look like long gloves.

>>3842506
I never jerked off to Shannon but I did jerk off to some sluts in that Hong Kong club. There's no way that I'm alone.

>>3844090
Maybe they were mates with JC outside of work.

>>3848579
Batteries.

>>3852254
They're both good so who cares.

>>3851658
AAAGH...AGH

Anyone played Deus Ex: Nihilum or Project 2027?

Worth playing?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cNU5wrCpXyw

The trailer for PS2 version of Deus Ex is great. The game itself on PS2 is kinda crappy, or at least crammed in tighter package thanks to hardware limitations. Some of the levels are tinier versions of the original, and some of them are just chopped in smaller pieces.

Dumpan full Deus Ex article from some magazine. 1/6

>>3852718
2/6

>>3852724
3/6

>>3852726
4/6

>>3852728
5/6

>>3852732
>(nice legs!)
6/6

>give money to one of those australian girls in lucky money club so that she would dance with me
>says she wants more
>give more and more, but nothing happens

>some pimp lady, also in lucky money
>says she can give company for 100 credits
>give her 100 credits
>nothing happens

Cut content or red herring? The game doesn't even fade out or anything to indicate that Denton got sum fuk. What a shame.

>>3852718
>>3852718
>Dumpan full Deus Ex article from some magazine. 1/6

Thank you very much!

>>3853820
does denton even have a robot penis?

>>3853880
My penis is augmented.

>>3849427
Why can't modern games be like this? You can think up all kinds of new ways to play it that needs just a little imagination.

>>3853923
How come UNATCO hurt your weenie than?

>Get the DTS code from VersaLife.
>Kill Louis Pan because fuck him and nobody else is watching him at the moment.
>Visit Gordon Quick and Max Chen in the temple afterwards.
>Quick is pissed about me killing Loius and says he would kill me if Tong didn't tell him to stand down.
>Talk to Quick again.
>Praises me the very next sentence, then unites the Triads with Chen.

Are throwing knives good? I'm thingken of using them and only them until I get the dragon's tooth sword

>>3851658
OH OH OH OH OH

I really wish staying loyal to UNATCO wasn't cut from the game.

>>3854668
This. The whole first part of the game is like government Dirty Harry, I wish it was possible to stay like that through the whole game.

>>3854647
Not really(if at all). On top of that, no one sells them, and you only get a handful in the game(like, 10 is the most I've ever found), so you probably will need to mod in some more yourself.

>>3854783
Don't they get stuck inside your victims and on to walls/etc if you miss?

>>3854786
Never happened for me, even when I tossed them at walls they shouldn't have broken on. Think you're SOL for the vanilla game, buddy.

>>3854794
Not him, but my crossbow bolts stick to walls and you can pick them up in vanilla game, so maybe it also happens with throwing knives?

How come my steam version of Deus Ex: GOTY has so blurry textures? I know it's an old game and it has blurry textures, but I specifically remember one of the Unreal Engine features being the blurry main textures changing to sharper detailed textures when the player goes closer to the walls etc.

Picture related, I took that screenshot from vanilla DX years ago. Look how sharp the textures are when I stand closer to the wall. My steam version of DX doesn't do that. Or maybe my resolution is already so high that the sharper layer of textures also shows up blurry?

Look at this video, my game doesn't behave like this at all:
https://youtu.be/nWWrBt6xlWA?t=307

>>3854851

Fiddle with the settings? Maybe it's some glide/dx-fuckery.

Anyway, now I really want to replay this, and little time to do it plus a nagging wife. Damn.

>>3854851
turn texture compression ON

>>3854891
And how do I do that? Detailed textures are on in both game settings, deus exe launcher, and ini file, yet the problem remains. It's not really a problem, I'm already 20 hours in, but it would be sweet to have the sharper textures.

>>3854851
>>3854891
>>3854939

Alright, turned FastUglyRefresh=True from the .ini file, and now it seems to work. Not all textures turn sharped when I get closer to them, but I'm not sure if they're even supposed to.

Picture related, the stone frame in screen and keypad is detailed, but the wood paneling is not.

>>3841965
GEP guns is always the most silent way to eliminate doors.

>>3844381
Because hack frauds got their hands on the franchise.
It's Fallout all over again, but with HR it was less severe.
MD shat the bed.
i don't give a fuck about SE meddling, the story itself, whatever's left for it is just shitty contemporary issue that will be forgotten in a year.
Also they couldn't create an actual dillema, so they made augs that turn you into a god but hurr durr zombie copout-chimpout software!

>>3850476
Square Ex doesn't have internet either.
There's only Picus and le hilarious Alex Jones.

>>3855389

Eh, it was fine. Nothing on the original but better than 99% of the other games that year.

>>3850476
You know what I miss in sci-fi? 'tude.

Look at anime, 'tude all over (even in super fun settings like Bubblegum Crisis). Video games of that time had all sorts of 'tude in their setting, no matter the genre (Final Fantasy VII for one example from Japan, Deus Ex from the West), and films go without saying.

Even compare Titan A.E. to Firefly, despite only having two years between them and a remarkably similar setting and premise, the 'tude is entirely gone.

#BringBack'Tude

>>3854845
This is true, otherwise it'd be even more pointless to have Flare Darts for the crossbow. But again, if you hit someone with them, they're gone.

Just bought this on GoG and finished the training. The keybinds sure seem a bit archaic, other than adjusting those is there anything i should be aware of before delving down this rabbit hole?

I have a problem:
The game is a bit too dark when played with Direct3D. The game settings cannot be changed, the slider can be moved, but it does absolutely nothing.
I've tried to play with OpenGL, which has perfect lighting, but on that mode the detailed textures won't work!

I play on Direct3D to get the sweet sweet sharp textures, but I'd rather have some brightness in the game. It gets pretty frustrating to use a flashlight in areas where it's not normally even needed.

>>3855781
Install GMDX and if you dont want to, install shifter, and if you want 100% vanilla, dont put points into swimming

>>3855781
>is there anything i should be aware of before delving down this rabbit hole?

There Is some good advice but its not really a tough enough game to be needed. There is also a traditional comedy/no its actual useful answer that I see has just been provided so instead I will just offer you the following suggestion.

Do not leave via the window.

>>3855862

This guy is trolling, and it's in poor taste because Deus Ex is a great game and he shouldn't be ruining it for a new player.

You have to invest a lot of points in swimming or else the game will be absurdly hard to complete. Try to max it out by about the halfway point of the game. You'll thank me when you realize why.

>>3855857
Use the DX10 renderer then.
http://kentie.net/article/d3d10drv/

>>3851641
I played the PC version. Buggy as fug and Bill Gates abandoned it before patching it properly. Got stuck at that "evel keneval" level which kept crashing(pun intended).

Felt like it was made more for multiplayer. Not really open world, very linear.

>>3855891
Thanks, looking much better now.

>>3855857
I use the DTS as muh glowstick.

>>3855781
Remember that some of the choices you're given are not always the only choices, and there might be some other less obvious ways to solve problems.

Crowbar to the back of the head is a quick way to eliminate enemies without wasting ammo.

Sometimes brute force through the doors is better than wasting lockpicks

>>3855951
But leveling up your lock-picking skill means less lockpicks used.

>>3850528
I just LAM the bitch as soon as she got on the plane.

>>3855781
change the keybind for turning off all nanomods at once. you'll be using that key often.

Circle strafing works, but sniping works even better!

Your standard pistol can be modded to have a scope and silencer, or you can wait to get the silenced pistol first. Crossbow is slient to begin with but has limited range. In some maps, you can "snipe" someone from almost a kilometre with a GEP rocket.

>>3855951
>>3855958
Computers> Electronic tool > Lockpicks

You'll only want one of the 3 above unless you really want to find every bit of "treasure" in the game. Game can be beaten without any of them but you might get stuck if you don't use a walkthrough for some passcodes OR run out of electronic tools.

>>3855972
>passcodes
That reminds me, is there a way to find the passcode to the room in the NY clinic where the medbot is located? Without paying the 3000 credits of course.

>>3855989
>That reminds me, is there a way to find the passcode to the room in the NY clinic where the medbot is located? Without paying the 3000 credits of course.

I remember some codes from my first play thru.

Many codes or static and can be gotten from a guide.

>>3855862
>Install GMDX and if you dont want to, install shifter, and if you want 100% vanilla, dont put points into swimming


>>3847862
>as others have said. use GMDX mod if you don't already have it. its just an objective improvement in every way

>>3847370
>Let's talk about GMDX

Yes.


GMDX does improve vanilla so much.

>>3856027
how can gmdx be an improvement if you don't know what the improvements are unless you play vanilla first.

>>3856027
Yeah but I don't wanna read a guide. Perhaps the code will only be given after you pay the credts and multitooling the keypad is the only other way?

>>3855989
Sure; savescum, buy the code, then reload your game before you paid and use it.

>>3844971
>>3850441
>>3847635
>>3855389
Did you even play the game?

Adam is an illuminati genetic experiment, he's the first step of the Denton Project. It's implied Adam's DNA was used to make the Denton brothers (at worst, Paul is a direct Adam clone).
His arms look designed by Ferrari because they were designed by Sarif, the Enzo Ferrari of augmentations; they're top notch from a technological standpoint, because Sarif bacasically made Jensen a walking prototype of conceptual military tech -that never got actually produced (considering it was still in development when augmentation research got pretty much illegal worldwide). Being the Head of Security of the biggest (probably) augmentation/biotechnology company in the world, other than Sarif' private investigator/personal hit man/industrial spy/field agent, Jensen got all the fancy stuff. It was only possible because ofhis unique DNA.

Look at the other augmented characters, it's a freak show; you get many NPCs noticing the quality of Adam augs, even when they're mostly hidden. Because they look out of place with so many third world-looking mechanical prosthesis around.

If we consider the HR timeline, aug development already stopped by the time of Mankind Divided, so people like Anna and Gunther are surviving remnants of earlier decades; their augs are supposed to be nothing but the same technology they had years ago, that's why it looks so outdated.

>>3856328
>>3844971
>>3850441
>>3847635
>>3855389
(cont)
You could argue that augmentation development would never stop on a military level, but we know they focused on nanoaugmentations and physiopharmaceutical augs.

The original Deus Ex was going to be much closer to the newer aesthetic (according to the concept artworks at least), but as you can imagine, hardware limitations made it impossible to use such complex designs.

Deus Ex ended up using a Blade Runner/Matrix cyberpunk aesthetic, while HR and MD clearly went for a Ghost in the Shell look.
I'm not saying the original isn't superior or anything, but despite the fact the newer ones tried to do "their own thing", they weren't that inconsistent with the original lore as it seems. It's pretty clear Eidos devs were at least fans of the original, as the newer trilogy was going to be pretty much a direct prequel of the first game. Look at Mankind Divided: Jensen is working for the soon-to-be-UNATCO (his actual boss is even the same guy JC was working for), and the whole game is clearly a set up for a larger Illuminati-focused plot. It was probably going to be "How Bob Page and Majestic 12 took over the Illuminati"; shame we'll never get that because of Square jewness and capeshit easy money

>>3856328
>>3856330

No dude.

>>3840771
creepy

>>3852603
Deus Ex Nihilum is really great, you just have to ignore the terrible voice acting. It's almost like a commercial add-on

>>3848579
I always made the excuse that it's full of super dense nanoparticles or something that make it ridiculously heavy for it's size

God I wish non-lethal weapons in this game weren't such crocks of shit. I grew up playing Thief: The Dark Project on Expert so if a game gives me the option of sneaking through missions without killing anybody I fucking have to do it. It's a hardwired necessity for me.

So far the most useful ones are the pepper spray and shock prod, but ammo for those is not terribly common, especially the shock prod, and trying to knock somebody out with the normal riot baton is a fantastic way to get yourself shot in the fucking face, especially since it resets their "stunned" status if you gave them a nice spray beforehand.

So far it seems like the best way to do non-lethal runs in this game is to just spray, gas or Fire Extinguish them and then run past while they're rubbing their eyes, because knocking people out safely seems to be next to impossible. The mini-crossbow can seriously go fuck itself, it's so goddamn useless.

Then later I know I'm going to come up against those assholes in powered exo-skeletons, and the only way I can think of to get past them without killing is with the invisibility aug. Generally I seem to remember always giving up on playing without killing at about the halfway point, even if I make exceptions like "named boss characters don't count"

Also fuck, the augs in this game are all pretty useless until you upgrade them at least twice. Deus Ex 1 is like a version of Ghost in the Shell where Section 9 got all their cyborg parts from somebody's trench coat in a back alley.

>>3856713

Why do people get so autistic over 100% non-lethal runs in Deus Ex? Just play the damn game, if a 500kg exo-suited cyborg commando comes charging at you, just shoot the fucker.

You're like my friend who hated Human Revolution after he, with near-autistic determination, forced himself through the game with only nonlethal weapons, even the bosses. Then he complained 'Duhh, the game was too hard, the bosses were almost impossible'.

When asked why in the flying fuck he decided to not fire a single bullet in his first run of a new game he just repated something like 'B-but it's Deus ex, you don't need to kill anyone'. Who started this meme? Who's responsible?

>>3856735
The bosses in HR were awful whether you were playing non-lethally or not.

They also never had anything like my favorite moment in the first game, where Walton Simons showed up for a duel and you could just run past him and leave. That's a lot cooler than a straight boss fight to me because I can imagine him standing there like a dork thinking, "Wow, really? Really?"

Anyway I just like sneaking around and not killing people if I get the option to. It probably has something to do with Thief being the best game ever made and having a huge impact on me as a kid. Don't be a faggot whining about how I want to play the game

>>3856713
Actually the crossbow is the most useful weapon in the game when you know how to use it. Enemies will investigate crossbow bolts the same way they'd investigate you smashing a wall with a crowbar. You can use bolts to basically move enemies to whatever spot you want them to move to, and then come and grab your bolts later.

>>3856713
Use the crossbow, you newbie. Shoot a wall or object. Enemies will run toward the crossbow bolt (any kind of crossbow bolt, doesn't have to be flare bolts). That's when you run past 'em or whack/zap 'em in the back. When enemies are in the "alert" state, they cannot hear your running steps, so don't fucking sneak, just RUN past them or if you're good at the game you can RUN toward them and whack/zap like 2 or 3 enemies in a row. I basically gave you the "secret weapon" to doing no-death runs. You're welcome you edgy faggot. Also, you might as well master rifles before any other skill so you can use a silenced sniper rifle to take out cameras and sentries.

>>3852254
Skills were much less balanced in SS2.

>>3855498
>You know what I miss in sci-fi? 'tude.

Hoping CD Projekt Witcher group brings back the punk rock anarchism of cyberpunk to their new cyberpunk RPG.

>>3856662
Yes dude
Try the game one day

>>3840771
what is this

>>3857237

I like Human Revolution. I like it a lot. But it misses the ball when it comes to how super-advanced they made all the tech, that's just the way it is.

>>3857284

Human Revolution is best played on Wii U.

Prove me wrong.

>>3857284
>>3857284
Why? Deus Ex universe got different from our reality during its 90s.
The first game would have been more high tech-looking as well if they developed it for an averagely stronger hardware; the moment they got able to use more detailed models, they went full sci-fi with Invisible War.

I agree, HR look too advanced compared to DX at first, but consider that
-it's humanity at its highest point
-it's been a downfall since then
-huge financial crisis, war, death, destruction
-by the time DX took place, the world was already a ghetto-version of its former self
-Mankind Divided proves the rest of the world is still pretty much the same as it is now, only a few highly advanced metropolis got the Neo Tokyo 3-tier treatment like Hengsha and Detroit

Stuff like DX people using paper newspapers instead of the 800€ holographical tablets they used in HR make sense if you consider they're basically third world countries by that point; when you literally got people dying in the streets, wasting resources on lighter phones and shiny cars is probably far from your priorities as a society

You could argue that such tech would cost way less by the 50s (which wouldn't be wrong), but consider tablets weren't even a thing when DX was developed;
Half the tech crap in HR is a futuristic version of stuff we're using today, and you can't possibly expect Ion Storm to predict unreleased tech
At the same time, using the "90s retro future" aesthetic for the newer games would have been a bit tryhard (they would have looked like 90s sci-fi movies, which often had a pretty generic style compared to the much more inspired cyberpunk aesthetic established during the 80s)

That said, DX realism has a purpose: by the time DX got released, there were basically no games set in the real world. Walking through real cities and seeing real monuments and stuff was really ground breaking back then, almost a selling point for some people. Needless to say, it's not like that anymore

>>3857290
Human Revolution is best not played

this thread made me download it
hope it's good

>>3858382
Mod it before starting it

>>3858384
No.

>>3858384

>>3857441

I'm not reading a small novel every time dude, you can justify it any way you want but that issue has been apparent ever since the first trailers.

>Rescue Gunther Hermann in the first mission
>Go through the UNATCO thing at the end
>He mentions being grateful for the rescue etc in the break room
>Game crashes during save after I get weapons for the next mission
>Reload most recent save (one it crashed during failed)
>Go to the break room
>During the conversation he mentions not leaving agents trapped as prisoners and gives no indication I rescued him, even though my save-file was from just before the UNATCO retina scanner, and so after I'd saved him.
What's going on here?

Original Denton was going to be more 90s dude looking... and then the Matrix was released.

>>3858408
UE1 games are unplayable without a newer renderer to eliminate mouse input issues.

>>3858694
Saying "didn't read lol" won't make you right m8

why the fuck isn't this on /vg/ it's not even retro?

MODS

>>3859279
because this isn't vg

>>3859252

No, just looking at the game makes me right.

>>3859591
Nope, sorry

Play it one day

>>3859279
Runs on Unreal Engine 1, so it's retro.

Deal with it. :^)

>>3840771
Never heard if it

>>3859595

For the third time, I fucking played it and liked it, but you are just WRONG.

>>3846719
You got a single fact to back that up?

>>3859714
If you actually played it, we both know I'm not wrong.

>>3860163

>>3860163
At the risk of de-railing the thread with /pol/, there's actually an interesting video on this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sdZp5iw-UEo

>>3860665
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sUIcCyPOA30

EXCLUSIVE: Warner Bros is trying to see if there is more life in The

>>3858836
>Matrix
>>3856330
>Matrix

Matrix beyond the three groundbreaking films written and directed by the Wachowskis. This is all in the exploratory phase and it’s unclear if the Wachowskis, then Andy and Larry but now Lily and Lana Wachowski, or the original cast will be involved, or producer Joel Silver. Right now, I hear the studio is likely to create a writers’ room of scribes to figure out the best possible way to relaunch the franchise.


Here we go. Again.

How about a Deus Ex live action film?

>>3860935
Looks like someone's trying to kill the very concept of "red pill" at its roots

I've never played this gem. Planning on playing it soon. Should I play it full on vanilla or should I install GMDX?

>>3860938
Always play full vanilla first dude

>>3860962
Uh, I think it would be nice to have some resolution, texture mods, and quality of life mods..

Do we have a list for this?

>>3860938
Just install deus exe
http://kentie.net/article/dxguide/
and then the direct3d 10 support
http://kentie.net/article/d3d10drv/

And you're good to go. Works on also on steam! It takes like 1 minute to set those up together downloading included. Put your FOV on about 90, and the HUD scaling on x2. Of course these two little options are up to you, but I personally would recommend putting them so because otherwise the default FOV is way too narrow, and the default HUD is way too small.

This way you'll be playing vanilla, but with modern PC support. Unreal engine 1 has this nice little "infinite detail" type of deal going on, which means that the textures will get sharper the more closer you get to them. Together with that Direct3D 10 support and deus exe the detail will pop out better than before.

>>3861012
Just use the Directx 10 renderer and be done with it you baby

Warren Spector talks about the development of Deus Ex :-

http://www.gdcvault.com/play/1024338/Classic-Game-Postmortem-Deus-Ex

>>3861089

>>3861089
>Just install deus exe
>http://kentie.net/article/dxguide/
>and then the direct3d 10 support
>http://kentie.net/article/d3d10drv/

Solid advice.

>>3858967
>mouse input issues

Never had a single one. Never used a mod. Beat the game about ten times over the past 15+ years.

>>3861089
>>3862434

Also use this.
http://www.dxm.be/navigator.php5?lang=en&content=202

>>3862871
Has to do with something about Windows mouse smoothing that changed on later installments. UE1 itself has great mouse input, but it can get messed up with later versions of Windows.

>some woman follows me from lucky money club
>I walk in the little store I hacked open earlier
>she's till following me
>she walks through the glass, triggering the burglar alarm
>all the cops are suddenly shooting at me
>they shoot the woman as well, but only because she's standing in their line of fire

What the fuck.

>>3863293
Yeah, after the shootout there, one of the whores will always follow you around. I find a secluded place, then tase her; otherwise, you've experienced what could happen.

So I just installed this plus DX10 renderer.

How do I remove mouse acceleration?

>>3863556
I tried playing on windowed mode but now I have my Windows cursor over my game cursor..

>>3863556
Deus Exe has a default setting for raw mouse input.

>>3863307
>mfw killing those two australian skanks in the bathroom

Feels good mate.

>>3863581
Thanks, it fixed now.

I'm playing in windowed right now with deus exe and my game freezes for 5-10 seconds everytime I open up my inventory. Same thing happens when I tab out of my game and tab back in.

Also, hard or realistic? First playthrough.

>>3863660
realistic if you like not playing the game

>>3863660
>I'm playing in windowed right now with deus exe and my game freezes for 5-10 seconds everytime I open up my inventory.

If you're playing on a laptop or some other weak PC, then you should turn on "Classic lighting" in DX10 settings.
http://kentie.net/article/d3d10drv/

I just dived in the Hong Kong canals and checked out that collapsed tunnel for the first time. Pretty underwhelming desu senpai

>>3865047
laser sight and aug upgrade...

those are like the two best items in the game.

Seeing several sites that offer the original PC version for free DL. Any of these trusted? Easier than figuring out what I did with old install disk...

>>3865413
One upload I can confirm is legit is this one.

https://mega.nz/#!uo0EUCbC!rUiGoHputi0RWLu0F4YDBL7J77Q7GCL96S4wPfrVSl8

Password: "PCGames-Download.NET" without the quote marks

>>3865413
There's probably the GOG version floating around for free.

>>3865843

givemedeusex.com
https://youtu.be/V5AROUW53g8

>>3861012
JUST PLAY VANILLA YOU VANILLA GORILLA

OK, guys, I just instaled the GOG version of Deus Ex. What I'm in? "A wild ride, kid!"?
How can I set the resolution to 1920x1080?
It's easy to mod the game? Any good turorials? I don't like how the main character looks, I want to replace his model.

>>3846097
Try it with a fedora. Fedoras make everything more serious. I'm always wearing a fedora when I go for a sword duel.

>>3868013
Install these
>>3861089

You can change how your Denton looks when you start the game. It's actually just a different color variations of him, but they make him look different. There's the black hair Denton, the albino Witcher looking Denton, ginger Denton, tanned and scarred Denton, and the nigga Denton.

>>3868767

SHAFT Denton

Can I change my gender?

>>3868767
But I want to mod Denton's model.

>>3868948
Beat before I add your name to the list of NSF bodybags

>>3869354
>Beat before

Augment your linguistics, Denton.

Just finished for the first time....honestly think it's my fave game ever.

Already started 2nd play through, gonna be a heavy weapons guy this time.

This may be the unpopular opinion, but I think I prefer the first third of the game the best (liberty island, Hell's Kitchen etc.)

In that one laboratory there is a note about Denton and other his kind of augmented agents that mentions how all the nano-augmented agents are suffering from albinism, and for that reason they are wearing black leather coats and dark glasses to balance their whiteness. Could this be a remnant from the original draft of the game where Denton was an albino by default?

Denton is canonically white according to IW, but in the original DX box art he could be any skin color.

>>3869368
>redhead denton
i sincerely hope nobody here has done that, ever

>>3869361

The first third is where the game world and characters respond and change most according to your actions. After you defect to the NSF the narrative is essentially locked with the only differences being how you proceed through the levels. The ending also doesn't correlate in any way with what you've done throughout the game.

>>3850476

I'm so glad Alien:Isolation kept the amazing 1970s aesthetic instead of trying to do what HR did.

>>3869361
heavy weapons is awesome. don't listen to the idgits who say don't put points into it. It's fine to put points into heavy weapons.. just not in the beginning of the game when you don't have as much GEP ammo. after the first 1/4 of the game you'll be swimming in GEP ammo. also, don't forget that you can use white phosphorous GEP ammo on human enemies so that they don't blow up so that you can actually loot their bodies.

GEP rockets and Assault Rifle grenades are my favorite things about the game. Nothing as satisfying as blowing up 5-6 enemies with a single boom.

>>3869397
I was still impressed with how many options you get for an ending.

>>3869702
yeah i didn't invest into heavy yet..was going to just carry GEP and either flamethrower or plasma gun. didn't know assault rifle had grenades tho.

>>3855498
'tude is too politically incorrect for the 21st century.

>>3869780
>>3869780
>'tude is too politically incorrect for the 21st century.

Return the punk to the cyber

Come on CD Projekt RED . . .

Any other company with similar projects?

Whalenaught Studios has Copper Dreams
There's the new Consortium The Tower game

>>3849352
I wish there was a Hot Coffee mod for Deus Ex. I always wanted to fuck Maggie Chow and her maid. I blame my fatal case of yellow fever

>tranquilize Maggie Chow in the Majestic 12 laboratory before she slashes me with the energy sword
>drag her unconscious body through the sewers
>carry her body back to her apartment
>lay her on her own bed, still alive
>hump her body by teabagging
>leave quietly

Sleep tight.

>>3869945
I don't know how anyone could have confidence in anything CDPR is doing after the uninspired explorations of mediocrity in the witcher 2 and 3.

>>3840771

Deus Ex dropping redpills for over 20 years

>>3871921
*I blame my fatal case of yellow fever on her

>>3871929
You shouldn't cheat on your waifu Anon

>>3869360
I... I... thought you were a prod

So with the heavy weapons route (and pistol, low tech, some demolition) am I stuck with only GEP? I know from previous playthrough it's essential, but I also wanted to try flamethrower or plasma gun with GEP combo, but this doesn't seem possible with inventory space.

>>3871930
this

slavshits can't make good games

>>3869368

It isnt the nano agents , series N, that that note mentions. Its the series P, which happen to be the MiB agents

>>3872183

Realistically, to allow for at least one side-arm, melee, and space for tools and health kits, you can hold at most 2 heavy weapons. That's what I did.

>>3872183
points in low tech and demolition is really unnecessary.

>>3872739

You could put all of your points into Handguns and kick the game's ass with the handgun.

>>3862108
>JC really stands for Jesus Christ

>>3873332

Paul = the apostle paul, considered to be the predecessor of jesus

also there is a cut level that took place on the moon which featured stonehenge type ruins, which actually are on the moon. We went to the moon but the footage was faked

see pic, original patches

>>3873524

this book was recommended by one of the deus ex NPCs and it changed my worldview about the past and future of humanity

its cyclical not progressive

>>3875073

It didn't have quite as profound an effect on my outlook, but I did read it because of DX.

>>3842506
Her legs look like they're morphing into ostrich legs

>>3860216
Not him, but you are wrong. It's one of the most common complaints about the prequels. Originals were gritty cyberpunk, new ones are straight up sci-fi.

I'm using the spy drone augmentation for the first time now and it's pretty cool, especially now that I have leveled it up to be really robust. I didn't take that augmentation in my first playthrough because I thought it sounded stupid, but now that I have actually used I like it very much.

It's like a super accurate EMP grenade. It's kinda overpowered if there's a charger bot around to recharge you after every blast, but it's great because there aren't that many regular EMP grenades laying around in the game. I'm currently in the shipyard and there's plenty of security bots to fry.

Though there is one thing I don't understand; where the fuck does the drone come from? From JCs ass? Does he hold the drone between his buttcheeks? No way was the drone in the augmentation canister. Honestly, what the fuck.

>>3875073
>>3875090
that's a Spenglerian concept actually.
check this if you're interested https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Decline_of_the_West

>>3875734
>New ones
Yeah, Invisible War was indeed sci-fi

Do you still consider it non-lethal if you blow up the machines with the GEP Gun?

>>3875980

As long as no one dies. Machines aren't people.

>>3875859

They're nano-machines from inside Denton which form outside of him into a drone. That's why they cost so much energy.

I just learned Jacob's Shadow and The Man Who Was Thursday are not real books. The chapters in game were pretty tight reading and I was looking forward to pick them up in real life, what a shame.

>>3876685
Shit, I meant Jacob's Shadow is not real. Man Who Was Thursday is a real book and I'm going to pick that up when I see it.

>>3876508
So he literally poops that thing out?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rKHPtfammNY

GMDX 9 soon

>>3841962
I loved going down into the prison to watch the terrorists get interrogated rather than leaving on the helicopter and talking to the guy afterwards until he gets frustrated

"Do you have even a passing interest in doing your job?"
"Leave damnit!"

>>3847635
There's one part I think where you can genuinely hurt Anna's feelings when she complements you by telling her you're top of the line and she's obsolete

Just want to tell some people...I once made it all the way to the surface of Area 51 using only the baton through the whole game, and also without saving once. Did it all in one sitting. No other weapons either. The only reason I didn't complete the game (yet!) is due to it crashing for some reason.

>>3854668
Agreed.

I think you can go along with it up until you see your brother in the apartment then you're forced to go rogue right?

>>3841741
2000 is retro according to this board rules.

>>3842334
Do you know what 'depth' means? Because depth means how many potential things that player can do with simple mechanics. This game is literally known EXACTLY for its amazing depth.

>>3844280
Square Enix should do an HD remaster of Deus Ex. Like, game would benefit a lot from improved graphics, and even if they added stuff like iron sights, it'd actually work better with realistic feel of the game.

Also to be fair, original X-Com is a really obscure game, intentionally (it adds to the creepy atmosphere). That, and anime intro can put people off.

>>3845801
>>3844090
>>3844323
>>3842904
I think answer to all those is 'cut content'. Game was made on a shoestring budget, and a lot of stuff was cut - I know that option to stay with Unatco instead of betraying them, and a female JC are confirmed to have been planned, and cut (we can see elements of it e.g. in the fact that you can read emails that say Unatco planned to send JC to Hong Kong as an assassin, perhaps to kill Tracer Tong - which would also explain why Luminous Path compound is built like you're supposed to fight through it, with security cameras and stuff).

>>3844381
Also why in DXHR/MD people have tech like homing bullets, but it's nowhere to be found in DX1? Also why plasma rifle is a sleek and cool combat rifle in HR, but a bulky prototype in DX1?

Answer is, because noone cares. Prequels didn't really give a fuck about fitting in with 'future' (past?) games, really.

>>3876689
Brace yourself for disappointment.
It's a satire that turns into a Monty Python sketch.