/vr/ - Retro Games

=== CURRENT EVENTS ===

[Highway to Hell] Second phase of mapping currently extended to the end March
>>/vr/thread/3852524#p3855512

[Til 4-1] QUMP still going?
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Zlfb2U2VCeS70uS6Klc2ZEOC9KtnYyCyBXEmeetjh0c/edit

=== NEWS ===

[3-15] Freedoom v0.11.2 released; minor bugfixes
https://github.com/freedoom/freedoom/releases/tag/v0.11.2

[3-15] Dropbox's support of public folders terminated

[3-13] GZDoom map release; UAC Vinur Prime Research Base
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=42&t=49163

[3-12] Quake Champions to be F2P; Ranger provided as the default character
https://youtu.be/vq5bFwvQMwA

[3-10] Anon Release; a Hexen/Heretic compatibility pack for Final Doomer
>>/vr/thread/3847428#p3849380

[3-10] Anon Release; 'Discharge' map pack beta
https://www.doomworld.com/vb/wads-mods/93151-discharge-4-maps-beta-test-feedback/

[3-6] More gdxBlood progress made
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFmMxmoVXJI

[3-2] MetaDoom 3.1 released, featuring tweaks and balance adjustments
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?p=981099#p981099

[3-2] Quake Champions to be playable at PAX East
https://bethesda.net/en/article/1XhLAJzCHSymCkQIKiI6gw/bethesda-is-heading-to-pax-east-2017

[3-1] Nevermore, an add-on for Trailblazer
>>/vr/thread/3826106#p3829402
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B93dAHEWrRc-dFhSTklHUWVaQzQ

=== PREVIOUS ===

http://pastebin.com/PZDkqABT

=== PROTIP ===

If you would like to submit any news or your personal map or mod releases here, please reply/backlink to this post.

>[3-15] Dropbox's support of public folders terminated
has that actually happened?

>>3861086
sorry i should have searched
https://www.dropbox.com/help/16

>As of March 15, 2017 the Public folder in your Dropbox account has been converted into a standard folder. By default this folder is private to your account. This transition will occur automatically.

>>>/vg/

Niggers, I am halfway through BTSX E1 on UV and find it to be rather easy. Am I a good player or what?

>>3861110
He still thinks we'll go to /vg/ if he tells us to

>>3861086
Seems like direct public links still work so far. Day's not over yet, though.

Has anyone made Doomguy skin where he's wearing casual clothing instead of his armor? or maybe what he's wearing in the Doom2 Title Screen/Boxart?

>>3861130
Are you playing the recent update or the old beta?

>>3861130
E1 isn't really meant to be hard. Its mostly Easy-Medium.

>>3861130
>>3861173

Yeah, BTSX is like this with difficulty
E1 = Easy/Medium
E2 = Medium/Hard
E3 = Hard/Very Hard (Not out yet, but I'm sure it'll be this)

King of the HUUUH

this is really cool

also has the best Cacos

>>3861081
Hmm, wad-archive seems to be having problems. This makes things rather interesting with Doomworld's archives already being down.

>>3861247
dead.air is fantastic. Really cool aesthetic, fun weapons, neat level design.

I think I would have rather explored more of the spooky cyber-city rather than playing through the color coded mini-levels, but that's not to say the levels were bad.

Heh. Kama Sutra sure is an interesting wad. Technically works in vanilla/chocolate, but some maps have a lot of areas that exceed the vissprites limit causing big fights to have invisible monsters.

>>3861327
Heh, nuts.wad basically flickers like a seizure on chocolate doom. Also, I now discover that nuts actually works in chocolate doom. All this time I thought it required a limit removing port.

>>3861361
Heh. Brutal Doom's kinda gay.

>>3861380
Heh, Gameplay mods are boring

Is there a simple way for DECORATE to check to see if the player is still holding the reload key or am I going to have to break into some ACS shit?

Or I could just retool the bomb charge attack to be something a little easier to perform.

>>3861081
Op forgot into news again.

Anyway. Is there a method to make a weapon accurate at medium range, but loose accuracy after that, i.e. increased bullet spread with distance to the point when you can't hit shit at 40 meters (this is for a shotgun slug fired from smoothbore)

Terry wads are retarded, most of them are just trash, no subtlety, no effort to actually troll, but some of them are fucking amazing. What are some Terry wads that actually fooled you into thinking you are about to play something good?

>>3861412
I mean, you could always give the player a token then in See have a quick 1-frame A_WeaponReady before you remove it that allows you to go back to reload with the token. Or something.

>>3861415
>Op forgot into news again

So what is it this time? Everything that was quoted last thread made it in.

>>3861419
In the See state though?

>>3861424
>See
Ready: I'm an idiot and very tired.

>>3861415
hitscan? no, not really
projectile? a_changevelocity to knock it off course after some distance

>>3861412
decorate has getplayerinput() nowadays
it's pretty fucking great
countinv() is also amazing

>>3861428
If that's in the newer versions of GZDoom, then I can't use it, I prefer to keep my projects Zandronum compatible.

>>3861430
tough shit
callACS it is
or does zand not even have that yet

captcha has a storefront fetish

>>3861435
I have no idea, I don't think there's a wiki that actually lists all of the current features of sourceports, which is a pain in the dick

>>3861418
Demonic Adventure and Sights of Agony comes to mind.
I kinda find it silly that people imitating Terry just make these "Oh yeah, you're gonna play something truly epic" when the UAC Military Nightmare never promised anything world changing and goes straight balls-to-the-walls instead of trying to lul you into false sense of security or whatever.

>>3861418
Never played a terry wad, because I always avoid maps that require zdoom based ports, unless its from an author I know I can trust.

I only blindly discover maps that can run on vanilla or prboom+

Well, that's one name to give to your child.

>>3861512
Meanwhile I am living with the pain of playing vanilla maps on zdoom and suffering for it. It stinks that I can't have any enemy sprite changes without DMGRAPH :\

>>3861524
What mod does that? I thought it might be doomRPG but the HUDs all different...

>https://webmshare.com/OVEob
Took a few tries to win that fight. Couldn't do it without the ultra-charged grenade.

>>3861668
It's Lithium.

Smooth Doom or Beautiful Doom?

>>3861698
smooth

>>3860105

what happened to Prime hud?

>>3861698
smooth doom all the way

Term why

I just wanted to fight Jason as Hae-Lin

>>3861827
looks like either you've got something brutal autoloaded or you have the skeletons cvar on

>>3861827
it's a feature

>>3861830
I launch most stuff through ZDL. Demonsteele and the Jason WAD were the only things being loaded.

I wonder if something in the Jason WAD triggered it.

>>3861827
I've had that happen with jukebox wads other than the regular demonsteele one

>>3861827
Try an older version of your sourceport.

>>3861835
probably. i remember a while back discussion of the code, it said that what triggers the skeletons is the existence of brutal_blood or brutal_pistol

>>3861835
>I wonder if something in the Jason WAD triggered it.
seems like there's an easy way to find out. please report back.

>>3861843
>>3861842
Well shit, I didn't even need to go into SLADE.

From the WAD's zdoom thread:
>Sergeant_Mark_IV's Universal Gore Mod T4 has been implement as well.

Completely glossed over it.

>>3861856
gj

>>3861856
But for what purpose?

>>3861856
Damn. Thanks Jason.

>>3861858
Who knows?

Contra Doom goes nice with this aesthetically.

>>3861875
Anything NES based probably would.

>>3861130
E1 is perfect in being easy but a blast to play. I almost want to say its perfectly balanced.

I'M MAD

MAD ABOUT FAIRIES

>>3861927
(9)

>>3861927
>Domon Kasshu vs Cirno

>>3861927
>MAXIMUM POWER

>>3861927
One Punch Man is being kind of a dick there.

>>3861927
that fist shaking is fucking perfect

> player char gets super angry at cutscene monologue and proceeds to punch the one doing it
confirmed, MSX guy is NUDoom guy

>>3861945
>Join the Corps, they said
>Meet new and interesting people
>Conquer unknown worlds, they said

excuse my WebM posting, trying to get a feel for a good quality/length ratio

>>3861945
That part in term's touhou doom/demonsteele stream where he's just holding the hammer during the cutscene was perfect

>>3861927
The Touhou mod is fucking weird. I might have to try it with MSX though, that actually looks fun.

>>3861961
I haven't actually made a patch to make the two fully compatible, so I have to console myself some ammo every now and again. You're right though, it's been a blast so far.

>Take a swing at the champ, you better not miss

>>3861957
> you keep being invulnerable and flapping your jaw while i liquify your face with my sword and max out my combo meter

>>3861951
Hey, the gauss sniper rifle has infinite ammo for me. Playing with Sunlust. Does that happen to you too?

The face of Carn Evil.

>>3861996
HEH HEEEENNNHHH

Black Warrior seems better suited to kill fairies than MSXGuy.

>>3862002
black warrior is needlessly cool
it's like cyberpunk-y max payne with bigger guns

>>3861524
How the fuck do you even pronounce that?

>>3862054
Bell-(glottal stop)-da-kheh-gackt-thta

Jokes aside, this is actually pretty fun.

>>3862084
desu downloading the original and giving it a couple runs i can sort of see what's been mentioned before

like, objectively speaking, it's completely awful
it's a terrible mod with terrible zdoom cutscenes and terrible maps and terrible enemies
but there's this...i dunno. real heart? around it.
and that's a really shitty reason because everybody and their fucking mother puts their heart into making their awful mods, but for some reason i just can't quite hate touhou doom.

it's objectively awful, but for some reason it's still fun.

>>3862054
http://vocaroo.com/i/s0wzPvfssMeh
Like this I guess.

>>3862054
His friends like to call him Dexter.

DemonsteelexTouhou wasn't anime enough.

We have to go deeper.

>>3862097
I agree. There's something magical about it that somehow puts a smile on my face.

Why is the Doom community full of so many weeaboos?

Who knows?

Additional work done on the pre-submission alpha of the H2H map. Give 'er a go and hurl suggestions/recommendations my way or slap 'em in yourself. Things should start coming together now, so it's a matter of gradual refinement

https://www.dropbox.com/s/fo6dpqvpyxp0ajf/e1m8.wad?dl=0

>>3861951
How is the HUD not broken for you?

>>3862168
Might be the load order.

>>3862148
On a chinese puppet show forum?
Surely you jest.

>>3862170
Even if I load it standalone the HUD gets pretty fucked

My assumption is GZDoom is too updated

>>3862168
>>3862174
Are you loading the old Touhou Doom or the new Touhou Doom?

>>3862172
I thought this was a siberian roe deer farming forum...
Even before /vr/ there were anime and hentai mods out there.

>>3862174
>>3862176
It's MSX that is broken

>>3862181

I thought it was a mongolian deep-fry-cooking forum.

>>3862185
pretty sure it's a laotian silk looming forum

pretty sure it's a 4chan is an English-language imageboard website. Users generally post anonymously, with the most recent posts appearing above the rest. 4chan is split into various boards with their own specific content and guidelines. Registration is not required, nor is it possible (except for staff).

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The site has been linked to Internet subcultures and activism, most notably Anonymous, the alt-right and Project Chanology.[3][4][5] 4chan users have been responsible for the formation or popularization of Internet memes such as lolcats, Rickrolling, "Chocolate Rain", Pedobear and many others. The site's "Random" board, also known as "/b/", was one of the site's first forums, and is the one that receives the most traffic.[6][7] As its name suggests, the Random board has minimal rules on posted content. Gawker once jokingly claimed that "reading /b/ will melt your brain".[8] The site's anonymous community and culture have often provoked media attention. For media planners, this enterprise is "further proof that creativity is everywhere and new media is less accessible" to advertisement agencies.[9]

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>>3862148
Not even, I'm just having a grand time running Touhou Doom with gameplay mods.

Running the remake now, actually a playable experience with MSX. Mostly

FAIRIESINNAWIRE

>>3862204
say what?

>>3862204
Sounds like communist propaganda to me.

>>3862216
check it out

>>3862215
>Running the remake now
you know you can't just drop that bomb and not post a link, anon

>>3862221
Term posted a link a thread or two ago.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/5099ugl4otu6aha/touhoudoomuntitledepisode2.pk3?dl=1

Well, if there's one thing I can say about the remake so far, it's that it's a spectacle and a half.

>>3862228
interesting shit, thanks

>>3862280
It strikes me that something token-based like Demonsteele or something regenerative like MSX would be the best fits for this, given the sheer amount of danmaku.

Project MSX update never ever

I posted this in the dead thread by accident but

Guncaster is _____fun__

>>3862289
ooh gotta get onto playing that now that my pc can handle slaughtermaps.
Anyone tried that guncaster+project brutality thing? is it any good?

>>3862284
Absolutely. MSX's shield makes the experience forgiving, but still a slugfest. And you're going to need those charged 'nades.

I can only imagine how absurd this must be with Contra Doom.

>>3862297
Contra Doom is easy mode for pretty much any mod.

It's slaughter tier power and survivability thanks to the lives system and sheer damage output from the weapons.

>>3862292
>slaughtermaps
Be very careful. If a slaughtermap is sufficiently slaughtery, Guncaster will become too easy, because the billions of monsters will drop so much money for you that you'll be able to buy everything.

Maps that are in-between slaughtermap and normal difficulty are ideal for Guncaster, I think. I'm having fun with it on Sunlust. Scythe 2, Alien Vendetta, the Hell on Earth Starter Pack, Brotherhood of Ruin, or maybe Hellbound would also be worth a try. Hell Revealed is about the right difficulty level but it's also pretty cramped, and you kinda need big open spaces for Guncaster desu senpai

>>3862306
>that icon of the dragon wrapped in bandages after you use the healing kit

fucking adorable

>>3862306
Thanks for the recommendations famalam

What if
>Swan Fox fangame

>>3862301
I'll try this section with Contra Doom at some point.

>>3862315
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t0JsUuysDj4

This just game me an idea.

What if there was a Killing Floor mod for Doom?

jesus fucking christ

>>3862335
mite be cool
GRAB IT WHILE IT'S HOT

>>3862335
look up zombie torrent

when I get over there

I'm gonna kick your goddamn ass

you insufferable twerp

>>3862347
>>3862348
chuckled heartily

steel yourself, youngling

I BRING THE FIGHT

the bosses aren't actually pushovers in the remake, even with MSX.

hmm
HMM

BRB, trying to load Touhou Doom with HDoom.

>>3862385
what have you done

>>3862314

So, Demonsteele?

>>3862394
:^)

>>3862396
He's not wrong though, Term was pretty heavily inspired by Swanfox. As much of a spectacular trainwreck as it is, Swanfox is pretty cool on a conceptual level.

>>3862401
imo demonsteele is basically what if swan fox was entirely tongue in cheek and actually played good

>>3862401
I never said he was, it's just a funny statement.

>>3862386
NANOMACHINES, SON

I am trapped in the underworld, without my weapons.

A 2hu offered me some fairy weapons.

MSXGuy does not know how to use said fairy weapons. The only ammo drops available are for those new weapons.

Now I must confront every enemy in the second chapter with my bare goddamn hands.

>>3862404
Oh, my mistake.

>>3862426

I believe there's a cvar to re-enable the normal weapons.

>>3862386
Nothing.

That being said, having a melee duel with Katana 2hu was really fuckin' cool.

>>3862429
Will go check. The second mission is impossible without proper weaponry.

>>3862403

What would the result be if Touhou Doom got the same treatment?

>>3862385
>Post some fun weapon as gif with good framerate

Hi Shivers.

>>3862484
While Shivers did make it, I don't think he was the one that posted it.

This looks kinda neato

>>3862492
Have it spawn some extra explosion effects

>>3862498
Good idea. Lemme do that real quick.

I think I broke the boss.

>>3862498
Might've put too many explosions :^|
It kinda muted the sound. I'll work on it.

>>3862519
Pretty fuckin cool though

>>3862523
I agree, once I fix the sound issue it'll be even cooler.

>>3862490
It was S'Arais

>>3862530
Nice try, Eric.

>>3862531
what

>>3861996
HYAAAHHH

Sound now works and DAMN is this satisfying.
But now I'll have to make the spider mastermind have one too :^|

>>3862531

Try again, Kegan.

>>3862536

>>3862540
Sod off Kinsie

>>3862539
FUCK YEAH.

and hey, if it's cool or funny, it's always worth doing.

>>3862542
Go away Term.

>>3862542
Yholl pls.

>>3862543
Absolutely. I'll make a version with sound later and post it so you guys can hear it. For now I've gotta add more fun explosions and blood to the spider mastermind.

>>3862542
FUCK OFF, TERM.

>>3862548
>>3862549

Nice samefag, iSpook.

>>3862551
>>3862552
Why so upset, Ling?

>>3862552
gtfo Teef

>implying sgt. mark iv isn't behind all this

>>3862561

>just want to git gud

>>3862289
While playing Guncaster, I get this odd feeling that the automatic shotgun just doesn't have a place, the minigun replaces it entirely and Ironblast is pretty much the go-to shotgun slot weapon majority of time when it comes to Guncaster, even though I feel Ironblast is a little bit underwhelming, I can't put my finger on it but shotgun slot weapons see rare usage in Guncaster for me.

Does anybody know how to apply a customized pseudo random number generator to weapons (Zdoom)?

Testing code tag

>>3862570
That's about as broad a question as "Does anyone know how to use a wheel?"

>>3862570
Forgot to mention I have it in ACS, I translated some functions from the doom source code. Testing trip.

>>3862579
see
>>3862576
What are you trying to actually do?

>>3862580
Trying to take advantage of these functions to add the old random number generator to zdoom in vanilla weapons and monsters. Apply the doom license or the GPL2 on it.
https://my.mixtape.moe/mjqacw.txt

>>3862587
>see
Well you could always use gdcc-acc, compile this in it, then just edit every single damage value to call your custom RNG instead of the built in one. Other than that, edit the source code because that's the level of modification you're looking at.

What's a man to do?

https://my.mixtape.moe/ikjibb.webm
Here it is with sound. Also the spider mastermind has a similar effect now too.

>level is called Go Fuck Yourself

I get the feeling it would be a lot harder if I didn't find the secret exit in the previous level that allowed me to keep my weapons onto the next.

>>3862591
>edit every single damage value to call your custom RNG
Which requires calling the function from decorate scripts, I know how to disabled the default rng, I just don't know how to call it from decorate from say:
Fire:
TRIF A 5 Bright A_FireBullets(0, 0, 1, 45, "RiflePuff", FBF_NORANDOM)
I can't find how to do that in the wiki.

I guess someone decided to leave Quake 3 to join the Saints in Steelport simulation.

>>3862607
Use
https://zdoom.org/wiki/ACS_NamedExecuteWithResult
>A_FireBullets(0, 0, 1, ACS_NamedExecuteWithResult (string script, int s_arg1, int s_arg2, int s_arg3, int s_arg4), "RiflePuff", FBF_NORANDOM)
in hitscans, and maybe... have projectiles do some hackery to inflict damage with a close-range hitscan? Just mess around with shit.

>>3862616
>ACS_
Thanks senpai.

What are the benefits of zscript over ACS, or ACS over zscript?

>>3862624
I just hope it works out for you, sounds like a neat project. Maybe also look into ZScript if you don't care much about compatibility.

>>3862624
filename not related
>this is doom
stop your wizardry!

>>3862554
Please go, John Cena

>>3862506
boy i sure like additive sprites on white backgrounds

>>3862506
I GET UP

>>3862506
>I think I broke the boss.
That reminds me, has this bug on hard mode been fixed?

>>3862668
I GET DO-O-O-OWWWWWWWWN

Warning: Slightly off topic because it came out in 2001 but I doubt it's worth making it's own thread on /v/ which would probably get 0 replies.

Anyone remember this gem?
I used to play the shit out of the multiplayer.
What side did you play the most?
Pro tip:If it isn't allies you're a fucking naziboo

>>3862676
Also beach assault is best map. Fight me.

>>3862676
Call of Duty? Yeah a little.

>>3862676
I played Enemy Territory a lot when I was younger. Loved it.

>>3862680
vanflip

>>3862682
I played E.T. a lot yesterday
it's still really great. Bots are bullshit strong, ETlegacy is a godsend and NQ is pretty damn fine

>>3862676
Got stuck on the stealth mission. You're only given enough ammo for your stealth rifle to kill all but one guard.
The one guard left standing? He had direct line of sight of the area between myself and the truck I had to hide in, giving me no way to progress.
Dropped the game right then and there and haven't looked back since.

>I'M GIVIN' 'ER ALL I GOT, CAP'N
>BUT I CAN'T CHANGE THE LAWS OF GENSOKYO

>>3862672
I had that happen with the maid.

>>3862724
I will admit, it is kind of bullshit that it's easier to stealth in the non stealth missions than in the one where you're actually supposed to stealth.

>MAKE 'EM COUNT

I was literally down to my shotgun and my pistol. This Adamantium 2hu ate all of my Autocannon, Laser Rifle, and Nailgun Ammo.

>>3862732
Is the ground broken or is that intentional

And that'll do ya.

Played through the entire damn remake of Touhou Doom with MSX in one sitting. Granted, it's not finished. I assume the later two episodes are still to come.

>>3862735
It's intentional. I think.
Those sections of the floor are supposed to be glass. I think.

>>3862737
>Brutal Doom - Hell on earth starter pack

I genuinely enjoyed this.

The beginning few levels had me worried, as they seemed to be minor edits of the originals. From the Mansion on, though, things are much different, and better than before.

Spritework is still questionable, but the levels have improve quite a bit. Boss battles were actually pretty damn cool and fun.

>>3862743
I know. I'm relatively new to the DOOM community and started there while I learned how to actually DOOM. Haven't bothered to rename the folder.

>>3862747
Welcome to the community.

>>3861247
I feel it reminds me of romero's upcoming black room demo

>>3862748
thanks bruv.

I might edit the footage I have into a proper video. MSXGuy's journey through Gensokyo should be immortalized.

>>3861951
>Vanquish TC mod when?

My only problem with Shadow of the Woolball is that your inventory does not reset between episodes.

>>3861082
I released Lithium 1.3.
pls gib feedback /vr/-senpai

>almost done Sunlust

It's been a hell of a ride.

>>3862862
didn't get ammo until i swapped to bar hud instead of fullscreen hud

otherwise first impression is good so far

I just wanted more points

>>3862875
Huh? There's only one HUD, and it ignores the screenblocks setting...

>>3862862
yo what sounds did you mix to get the combat rifle sound
i fucking love it and want to mimic it

>>3862862
Charge fist seems wonky. The right hand sprite spasms on the screen and it feels bad to use.

>>3862902
Nevermind about the spasm, updated GZDoom.

It doesn't seem like it hits far forward enough considering the arm is stretched out straight.

>>3862862
Somehow, I forgot to post the forum link.
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=54904

>>3862901
The combat rifle's sounds are mixed from Fallout 4 and Killing Floor, but I don't remember what guns from them.

>>3862906
I've done some improvements on it, will probably release a 1.3.1 since there are some other.. strange.. issues like function pointers suddenly not existing and reality collapsing due to it

Umm.. is Doomworld dead for anyone else?
Only thing that works is the front page, everything else is munted

>>3862951
never mind, everything is back up now

>>3862862
Is there a reason to use anything besides the shotgun in general?

Is the gauss mode for it better or am I still better off fighting enemies with it using standard shots?

When I last played balance was completely busted, not even much of a reason to use grenades/sniper rifle/revolver
The plasma weapon was also ear rape when in laser mode

The final weapon was pretty lame until upgraded with the explosion mode, then it basically paid for itself per shot so I felt little reason to use anything else.

Reactive armor also felt ridiculously overpowered when running through AV and HR2

>>3862951
>>3862953
Doomworld currently in renovation mode.

>>3862956
I read your complaints a few threads ago, and (hopefully) fixed them.
There's a changelog here if you want: https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=54904&start=60#p984527

>>3862862
Error after loading an autosave.

>>3862963
Alright, testing it out.

Because really outside of balance there was quite a bit of cool stuff going on, just didn't really like having only the Gauss Shotgun in normal mode being all that's really necessary

Right now first impressions is it's still pretty great but I am branching out more.
Revolver feels like it has a purpose since the initial gauss shot of the shotgun is not so godlike, super shotgun is.. It's okay, feels strong but the pause between the double shot and the reload makes me not want to use it that much

It's not bad though

>>3862967
Thank you, now I know exactly what's causing that. It appears that GZDoom's new save game format is broken, and doesn't save the ACS string table correctly. I'll go report that as a bug.

>>3862975
Weird, thought I made the delay the same as Doom's SSG, but comparing them, apparently not.

>>3862979
Reactive armor doesn't feel like god mode at least, although it's still really nucking futs if you're good at dodging or fighting one enemy type

But not really a game breaker so far
Going to take a break for now, testing it on HR2 on what I think is Ultra Violence(The whole menu didn't load at all)

I feel like I am swapping weapons more though so that's definitely a good start.
Probably won't touch the rifle outside of grenade mode until I get the 5 shot burst mode

What happened to RUMP (Return of the Triad Upstart Modding Proect)?

Was there ever one to begin with?

>>3863000
I wonder if there's a BUMP

>>3863019
Oooh, Blake Stone, thats an interesting idea

>>3862891
You entered the shitpost matrix

>>3862927
>will probably release a 1.3.1
I've heard about this mod for a little while now but haven't played it yet, should I wait for 1.3.1 before playing (or the next stable version of GZDoom, even)?

>>3863031
Here's a version I've compiled already which has the aforementioned fixes. If there's any other glaring issues I want to fix them before releasing this proper, but if you want to play Joy of Mapping you'll need this.
http://mab.greyserv.net/f/Lithium_1_3_1.pk7

>>3862862
Why did you kill vrobot?

>tfw been in a depressive rut for ages and am finally managing to be productive

In the sticky DoomBuilder tutorial, when the instructor enters linedef mode, he can go into properties and apply Scripts as an action. My action menu is much more limited - I can't map Scripts to lines/switches. Did I miss something?

>get muh Doom 4
>hurriedly flip the cover to get the badass colorful art full of action
>realize later when opening the case that Doomguy's face on the standard cover shines through and is visible when you take out the disc

Probably not intentional, but neat.

>>3863058
there are few map formats with different capabilities

try switching to Hexen or UDMF

>>3863035
Whoa am I playing Scorched Earth?

>>3863073
(me) the mouse cursor's horizontal/vertical speed on the menu isn't adjustable, is it? it's awfully slow vertically for me.

>>3862979
>Weird, thought I made the delay the same as Doom's SSG, but comparing them, apparently not.
There's a vanilla rocket launcher-tier delay before firing the SSG, it feels pretty awful. The delay stacks with the reload time, too.

Anyone remember how to scale the console size back down after Graf made it default scale with HUD text a while ago? Updating to latest github build reset it for me, fuck's sake.

>>3863046
My thinkpad died and collaterally so did my bouncer. If you want I can set up one on my new server and get it running again.

>>3863078
I'll add a setting for it.

>>3863105
Is the interface ACS or zscript?

>>3863107
It's all C compiled with GDCC. The mod mainly targets ZDoom 2.8.1 so I can't use ZScript.

Here's what the API looks like if you're interested, the upgrades menu is this function: https://github.com/marrub--/Lithium/blob/master/pk7/lcode/Main/src/p_upgrades.c#L277-L407

Another secret project I've been working on with someone uses ZScript and C in tandem, where ZScript handles the inputs and C handles the controls. It'll probably be more ZScript when we're actually able to render anything with it.

>>3863114
Thanks. I've done a fair bit of "ACS" UI stuff myself. One thing that struck me first time I played lithium (one of the early versions) was that the cursor felt kinda icky and imprecise.

>It'll probably be more ZScript when we're actually able to render anything with it.
Aww, we can't? I've put most of my stuff on hold in waiting for that.

>>3863124
> Aww, we can't? I've put most of my stuff on hold in waiting for that.

It's in the works. The next GZDoom stable lets you mess around in the inner workings of the menus, and the release after that is planned to let you much around inside the HUD with more depth than SBARINFO allows.

>>3863124
Yeah, unfortunately, Graf's put off rendering hooks (which are already implemented but commented out) until the HUD code is done so people don't abuse it in the meantime.

Also, how early was this version? I've rewritten the GUI entirely 4 or 5 times now, would like to know which one of them was the worst, heh.

>>3863019
HUMP When

>>3863125
>It's in the works.
>the release after that is planned to let you much around inside the HUD with more depth than SBARINFO allows.
That's good to hear. Thanks.

>>3863126
>Also, how early was this version?
Sorry, I don't recall. It's on the old PC.

Anyway, I render the cursor by multiplying a normalized value with the current HudSize values. The normalized value is scaled in such a way as to allow moving the cursor to the edge of the screen at a low 4:3 hudsize even if the actual resolution is high res widescreen. I also use getcvar to get the mouse sensitivity values to exactly mimic the menu cursor in feel and sensitivity.

>>3863000
It needs to happen, really the only problem of RoTT is that there are no maps made for it, especially action oriented ones.

>>3863134
That's pretty similar to what I do, but my values are much more arbitrary (just multiplies by 800 for both.)

With ZScript, since you're capturing raw mouse events, it's a lot easier to get a good feeling mouse.
https://gist.github.com/marrub--/35ef6af49e6edf9e455a6024609025db

heheh.. what an mess.

>>3863143
map? i recognise the pl2 status bar but i don't think that's a pl2 map

>>3863035
A revenant that an archvile resurrected wouldn't turn green/take poison damage. I haven't checked with other monsters, just something that came up during gameplay.

>>3863140
>With ZScript, since you're capturing raw mouse events
Shieet, you can do that? Key input as well?

>>3863150
UAC Vinur Prime Research Base

>>3863130
>HUMP
>HDoom maps but with a shitload of wall humping required to progress

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-JwJqXhd_w

>>3863130
not my best fake billboard ever, but definitely up there.

i've actually been thinking of kicking off a HUMP project for heretic maps, but i'd have to assemble one HELL of a texture pack (and maybe include assets for some hexen monsters) to fill out the bits where heretic's IWAD stuff is anaemic, and frankly i'm currently waiting for a shipment from overseas with which to replenish my stockpile of fucks to give

>Plutonia map15 has 108 monsters
>63 of them are Chaingunners

Man, fuck that map.

>Plutonia map15 has 108 monsters
>62 of them are Chaingunners

Man, fuck that map.

>>3863205

plutonia is the biggest example of how to not make maps

>>3863174
Baker's Legacy is a massive heretic/hexen texture pack, I'm sure that could be a start

>>3863212
I disagree. Most maps are great fun to play. MAP15 just isn't one of them.

This is taking way longer than it should

This is taking way longer than it should

Given some of the discussion in the previous thread, the old Doomworld server has been bought out of mothballs to bring back the old IdGames site as a stopgap measure until the new Downloads page is improved some:

https://legacy.doomworld.com/idgames/

>>3863205
People always bitch about Revenants, but only like 5 levels were really ever crazy with the usage. Chaingunners on the other hand were definitely the true annoyance of Plutonia.

>>3862347

>>3863236
I was bored, so I decided to count the UV amount of chaingunners and revenants in BTSX E1 and compare it to Plutonia's total

Chaingunners
Plutonia: 704 across 32 maps, absent in 1 map (11). Map 15 has the most in a single level at 62 out of 110.
BTSX E1: 478 across 23 maps, absent in 0 maps. Map 18 has the most in a single level at 63 out of 454.

Revenants
Plutonia: 422 across 32 maps, absent in 2 maps (11, 17). Map 32 has the most in a single level at 49 out of 206.
BTSX E1: 502 across 23 maps, absent in 1 map (15). Map 18 has the most in a single level at 54 out 454.

>>3863282
And for the record, I excluded the hub/story maps from the total in the case of BTSX E1, as they all contain 0 monsters. Including them in the map count would mean 27 maps instead of 23.

>>3863225
owo whats this?

>>3863310
my bulge
Its a dump3 map made in the style of Portal

Oh boy, time to fix Disjunction more.

>>3862754
Please do this.

>>3862868
I'm sure Sunlust MSXguy wished he could be at Gensokyo surrounded by little girls.

>>3863334
I think there's two of us.

Anyway, I'm currently stuck here. This fight is bullshit. The fucking sonic scream means cacodemons are crazy lethal in close quarters.

>>3863349
I always wonder if MagSigmaX would've eventually included a proper BFG analogue in the MSX arsenal. But then he got kidnapped by reptilians or something.

Are there any mods beside Wrath of Chronos and DoomRPG that has RPG mechanics?

What about just upgradable weapons?

>>3863362 here
I just downloaded Lithium, there goes any coding practice or math practice I'm going to today.

>>3863359
Fucking got it. Finally.

Yeah, a close quarters crowd clearing weapon is pretty much the only thing you don't have. The gauss cannon while cool really doesn't help with much except spiders and cybers.

>>3862676
Just got it on my phone. Plays well enough to get through it, but eats battery like a mofo.

>>3863236
yeah, the revenants in plutonia never really bothered me. the hitscanners and arch-vile setups were what tripped my up the most.

>>3863310
*NOTICES YOUR GUTS*

Now that I'm done Sunlust MSX I'm going to back to a classic WAD I never played, Kama Sutra

At least I think I never played it

>>3863349
>I think there's two of us

The brass sent out cyber-commandos to potentially inhabitable worlds as scouts.

One of us got the better assignment.

>>3863205
That's the only true take-cover map I can think of in Plutonia, and it's still well done. Just make sure to take the right fork first and find secrets pronto.

>>3863412
if you had played it, you would remember the super lewd final map.

>>3863414
wew lad

>>3863426
>I felt a great disturbance in the Framerate, as if millions of transistors suddenly cried out in terror, and were burnt to a crisp.

http://store.steampowered.com/app/405830/

Turok 2 EX is now available.

but what makes a map good? how do you learn to make good maps?

>>3863470

>>3863231
Phew, I was worried it was a glitch in the system and was taking massive abuse of it :P

i'm not an avid quake player, so what the hell is this?

>>3863490
thats a pretty gun

>>3863490
It's called a "parasite". It's attack is an unavoidable hitscan tentacle that latches onto you and shocks you for a few seconds if you're in line of sight. They're also fast and small and tough, so they're the Q2 equivalent of an archvile.

>>3863490
Your worst nightmare in Quake 2.

>>3863496
>>3863504
so i'm in for a wild ride, thanks

>>3863496
>Unavoidable
No?

>>3863504
Yes?

>>3862862
Increase SSG ammo to 60 so you can avoid autism.

fuk ur shit diabolists

>>3863518
>so you can avoid autism.
WDHMBT?

>>3863567
You know that feel when you holding double barrel and have odd number of ammo for it? It's kinda like that.

>>3863558
Does anyone know if having shield overcharge effects the damage of fully charged grenades/punches?

>>3863518
>>3863580
I feel the same, yes

>>3863558
> tfw you whiff your super punch and are left with no armor or energy for dashing or sprinting infront of a dozen hellknights

>>3863590
Time to pop a shield recharger

SWORD DOOM ANON i summon thee

>>3863634
Hello. The mod is called GMOTA and most people refer to me as GMOTA guy.

>>3863637
ok GMOTA guy i have various retarded questions.

1. how do i use the blue sword? like what is the bar below the normal sword

2.how do i use an unleasher? hitting the botton does nothing

3.what are the icons next to the guantlet and blue sword?

>>3863641
in that current version of GMOTA, you need to bind some new controls, "weapon action" and "utility" check the options menu in controls, might have to look at the bottom of that. Hitting weapon action will switch between your powered up and normal weapons.

You use the unleasher by picking up a BFG-tier item, getting a shitload of mana, and then hitting the USE ITEM key.

and finally the icons represent if you have enough mana for those respective attacks when you power up your sword and gauntlet. That current version of GMOTA is really convoluted and bad. I'm gonna be sorting that out in due time

>>3863637
>most people refer to me as GMOTA guy.
i think you mean "nerd"

>>3863659
Listen here, you little shit.

>>3863661
i may be a little shit but you're a huge one

I abandoned Brutal Doom and went with DRLA for my Kama Sutra playthrough. So far Elephant Gunning everyone has been fun

>>3863673
I wish the Anti-Freak Jackal wasn't so overpowered and every other gun so completely boring to use, not to mention it's given to scout right at the start.

Turok 2 Remastered just came out!
https://www.gog.com/game/turok_2_seeds_of_evil

>>3863685
>not to mention it's given to scout right at the start.
WHAT?
it's supposed to be a rare find, scouts start with a normal pistol

>>3863693
Whoops I just checked that I have "Star with Unique" on, it basically gives you random unique pistols.

hey i've been out of the Doom scene for like 2 years.
i picked out back to saturn x for a playthrough, and i'm wonderin what gameplay mod i should pick out to go with it? is there anything new and amazing thats come out in the last 2 years? hows GMOTA, and demonsteele doing?

>>3861552
Why the fuck would you need that? Playing vanilla maps on ZDoom isn't suffering at all.

>>3863685
Honestly, it's kind of a problem with every class. Once you've built or found an ideal weapon, running out of ammo is really the only reason to ever switch.

>>3863746
GMOTA is in the process of another big overhaul, and Demonsteele is on hold while Term works on a standalone game, which looks pretty cool.

Turok 2 EX by Kaiser just got released on Steam.

Go grab it.

>>3863461
>>3863692
>>3863806

>>3861082
newspost please so we don't need to have it re-announced every three posts

>>3863815
KKK
>>3861082
[3-16] Turok 2 EX is finally here! Grab it on Steam or GOG
http://store.steampowered.com/app/405830/
https://www.gog.com/game/turok_2_seeds_of_evil

>>3863746
>and i'm wonderin what gameplay mod i should pick out to go with it?
Around these parts most people play mods you probably know of already I think. "Legendoom" is a popular new one I think.

>>3863426
At least you were able to get the drop on the demons once.

The damn fae folk ambushed me at every turn.

>>3863830
I think you should have kited them around a bit to gather them in a bunch before fastballing them

>>3863692
SIXTY ONE POLANDBUCKS? WHAT THE FUCK KIND OF MONEY DO THEY THINK I'M MADE OF
____________________

So anyway, I couldn't find an Unreal Shock Rifle (ASMD) mod anywhere on the interwebs, so I decided to learn to mod just to correct that mistake. Here's the first draft

http://webm.land/w/1ujQ/

IVE LITERALLY SPENT FOUR HOURS TRYING TO MAKE 4CHAN EAT UP THIS FUCKING WEBM I GIVE UP. FUCK YOU HIROSHIMOOT

>>3863512
>if you're in line of sight
any other hitscan attack in the game is avoidable by literally running around the monster.

At map30 now. How worried should I be?

On a side note, I've figured out I can listen to audiobooks and play this simultaneously.

>>3863648
Are there wads made for this mod? its really fun but doesn't really feel right in the normal doom wad

>>3863847
be very afraid
check the monster count
there's also some dehacked magic to resurrect pre-dead monsters at certain points

>>3863847
I didn't find the final level too bad. The hardest part was the level before where you're in that circle room and those khomas and diabloists are attacking you relentlessly

Also, I listen to podcasts. Doom is a podcast game for me.

>>3863838
Didn't know they were there. Panicked a bit and threw a retaliatory "fuck off" grenade.

Slight lie, a few of the fairies did decide to lay down their arms a submit to an execution.

>>3863860
>there's also some dehacked magic to resurrect pre-dead monsters at certain points
Doesn't seem to be working with the gameplay mod.

>>3863865
Yeah, that one was pretty mean. A few charged pulse rifle blasts and a lot of powered jumps got me out of it.

>Also, I listen to podcasts. Doom is a podcast game for me.
I'd really recommend you listen to "Armor" by John Steakley. Any doom fan would love it I think.

>>3863869
That seems like a bit of overkill.

>>3863512
>Unavoaidable
>No
I like to avoid their attacks by shooting them in the face, too, you know.

>>3863851
There are not. and hopefully with this overhaul it should feel more appropriate to traditional doom maps with a proper item progression

>>3863886
>That seems like a bit of overkill.

The only good fairy's a dead fairy.

Forgot to mention the best change about the TouhouDoom remake: The Mansion is red now.

>>3863892
you don't play traditional doom maps. all you do is fiddle with gameplay mods and test them on map01. how many mapsets have you actually played? please list them, it can't be more than three or four.

>>3863905
Uhhhhhhh that's a hell of an assumption to make.

If you don't like gameplay mods, that's cool, but don't be a douchebag.

>>3863904
>The only good fairy's a dead fairy.
what'd i do to you ;_;

>>3863892
There should be a way to either scale it, or make it suitable for slaughters as well.

Demonsteele did it right wiht the combo meter - the more you slay the more damage you deal.

>>3863910
sorry i'm just repeating what i believed you'd said in the past. e.g. a few threads ago i posted a survey for popular wads you'd never played yet and you said basically all of them.

>>3863905
Scythe 1, 2, Hellbound, TNT, Plutonia, Doom 1 and 2 of course, Epic, Mock 2 (though that one doesn't count technically), I can't recall the name of it but that one mapset with the fucking bastard pyramid labyrnith map.

Does Dead.Air count? Pirate Doom? Temple of the Lizard men 1 and 2?

>>3863923
>pyramid labyrnith map
you probably mean Alien Vendetta then

and thanks, that's not very many, but it's more than i thought

>>3863827


and ggman already did a review for it, its fucking gorgeous

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=snWs8M3Frss

Now we need a proper remaster for Witchaven and Heavy Gear 1 but then the rights and source code are lost in space and time

>>3863846
did you not try this?
did you not jump ontop of it?

>>3863928
That's it, I knew it had the word Alien in it, Also played through Eternal Doom, Zen Dynamics, Action Doom 1 and 2, that one where you play as a fat looking chaingunner doomguy, it's an older mapset and I forgot the name of it too. I'm waiting for Final Doomer's update to run through BTSX properly, along with JCP and AA.

I'm only listing off mapsets I've played through in single player, there's also quite a few I've gone through in co-op, but I'll damned if I remember them all, Chillax was one of them, I think.

Just because I record webms in map 01 doesn't mean I don't play through mapsets you know, I'm just quickly testing out stuff before moving on, and once I get enough stuff added, THEN I do runs through mapsets. No sense in doing a full run with only two guns out of a full weaponset.

>>3863934

my bad, im also shitpoting on /m/


heres the video review of it

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PnDpmmf8sPE

again, which 90's FPS are pretty much "free" for a proper remaster besides Blood?

>>3863943
>my bad, im also shitpoting on /m/
a fellow tokufag?

>>3863946

nope just PR thread and the Evafags +zetafags having seizures because of the "How asuka would fare in Gundam wing without anno shitting on her character development" thread

Are there any maps that can be played with Shut up and bleed? Most have too many enemies and killing a crowd of imps with a knife isn't possible.

>>3861081
Remember gentlemen, ZScript for ZScript alone and nothing else.

>>3863461
>Improved character speed and manoeuvrability, including the ability to grapple ledges.
>One review mentions onscreen objective markers
Ehhh... I'll have to judge for myself.

How is Turok 2 an N64 became 1 gigabyte for pc?

Did Kaiser upscale x10 and save as bmp?

How

>>3863806
And I see people praising Night Dive to high heavens for this, while almost nobody of the general public knows about Kaiser.

That's really sad.

>>3863986
Uncompressed soundtrack perhaps?

how the fuck do I install CPMA?

I downloaded CPMA from their website and got the pak0.pk3 file but the game's like deleting my user settings every 5 minutes, including my keybinds and CD Key.

So, uh. I'm not dead guys, I swear. I'm just lazy. Smart gun and Flamer are done (although I need to make the flamer's Combat Stim enhanced version, but that won't take long.)

>>3863987
Well the job opportunities he'll get from being the main dev of all these projects should be staggering.

Can I use ZScript in ACS?

Are there any duke level packs? Is war of attrition any good?

>>3862862
What is the power fist and how is it supposed to work? It looks like it's just a big armlet that doesn't actually touch the enemy.

Thinking about doing stuff.

>>3863996
Yeah, there's ScriptCall, which is super powerful and can even send strings and fixed point numbers to ZScript: https://zdoom.org/wiki/ScriptCall

You can also make a CustomInventory that fails all checks but calls a function that does the thing you need, like this: http://pastebin.com/7HiwdtNC

>>3862442
>SHOW ME A GOOD TIME, JACK!

Will someone, anyone, make Doom complete with software renderer in ZScript so Graf can retire.

>>3863841
>I couldn't find an Unreal Shock Rifle (ASMD) mod anywhere on the interwebs, so I decided to learn to mod just to correct that mistake
Check out unreal guns https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=28589&start=840#p692358 ( Or actually don't because bestever is fucking dead, god damn it )
or Prisoner849. https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=52733&p=922574

>>3863586
No, it's a complete waste of overshield

Level 3 charges is best when you want to conserve overshield

>>3863940
>that one where you play as a fat looking chaingunner doomguy
STRAIN?

>>3863993
What's all this then

>>3864031
An attempt to make "Aliens: Spook edition"

>>3864038
Is it that mod that was on like v0.99h or something?

>>3864023
Alright thanks m8. Well then, that means I'll have to actually be creative in order to make anything worthwhile >:(

>>3864038
Ayy Lmao
uac against wy when

>>3864042
last version that the original Author was on was .99J3.

>>3864056
Wy? (Also I forgot to add this to it since I am dum.)

>>3864081
Weyland-Yutani

>>3864038
oh hey it's ispook
highly underrated
makes a lot of stuff
releases fuck all
maybe correctly rated after all

>>3864116
To be fair I've only worked on three things that weren't just compat. Patches. And I didn't release the second thing due to my motivation just flat-out dying.

>>3864131
What was the second thing?

>>3864134
Didn't have an official title for it. It was gon' be a weapon/enemy replacer using Sarge's "Ultimate brutal arsenal" weapon mod as a base for the weapon sprites, I was calling it "Not-so brutal" or something like that.

>>3864139
Doesn't sound too inspiring, but I probably would have liked it since I fucking loved SUAB.

>>3864153
Yeah, it wasn't too focused, but I wanted to do something other than work on SUAB at the time, so it was a good escape.

>>3864159
I've done more useless escapism projects than actual projects myself. Been sure to share code tricks and whatever that I came up with while doing so though, so some amount of good has come of it.

>>3861130
BTSX E1 only gets somewhat difficult in some of its late maps. And even then, still not quite hard.

Sunlust + Guncaster = Suncaster, or perhaps Gunlust.

It's pretty fucking sweet.

>>3864030
That was it. Thank you.

>>3864181
Would you happen to be the guy from the Babel beta-test Discord server, by chance?

>>3863936
I'm talking the attack itself which latches on to you and can't shake off unless you break LOS.

>>3864186
Yeah, I guess I said pretty much the same thing over there. RIP my anonymity.

>>3862998
Lithium issues here:
The Super Shotgun really really REALLY needs to be revisited and probably given an upgrade in the store

No reason to even look at it after constant testing and the Revolver basically fills its role in about 4-5 shots with a faster reload and more consistency

What purpose does the laser shotgun serve?

>>3863130
Hexen Upstart Modding Project? Hell yes. I'm onboard.

>>3864190
Yeah, hi Gyro.
Also turn off filtering

>>3863558
*guitar and bass riffs*
WAN PAAAAAAAAAAAAUNCH

>>3863496
>they're the Q2 equivalent of an archvile.
not even close. They're hardly a threat. They're more like a lost soul. fast and weak, have to get close to damage you. Couple of shotgun rounds will end them.

The archvile is pretty unique and doesn't really have an equivalent in quake or q2

>>3864190
don't worry it'll grow back in a day or two.

>>3864192
Also just noticed I can't buy cannon shots anymore, which is good

Gauss Shotgun needs to use Shells

I'm playing Chocolate Doom with a gamepad and you can't stop me

>>3864254
I purchased the X360 port with forced randomized pitches just for the new episode when I probably could have found it for free

>>3864254
i'm fairly sure they went to some trouble to allow that to work!

>>3864267
i mean to support all kind of joysticks with loads of buttons and shit, whilst also trying to emulate the old joyb_speed 29 autorun hack

>>3864264
I remember I was heavily considering getting it and then the community ported the episode as a WAD.