/vr/ - Retro Games

=== CURRENT EVENTS ===

[Highway to Hell] Second phase of mapping over
>>/vr/thread/3826106#p3830558

[Til 4-1] QUMP is still going; only this month left
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Zlfb2U2VCeS70uS6Klc2ZEOC9KtnYyCyBXEmeetjh0c/edit

[Til 3-15] Dropbox will be dropping support of public folders soon

=== NEWS ===

[3-6] More gdxBlood progress made
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFmMxmoVXJI

[3-2] MetaDoom 3.1 released, featuring tweaks and balance adjustments
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?p=981099#p981099

[3-2] Quake Champions to be playable at PAX East
https://bethesda.net/en/article/1XhLAJzCHSymCkQIKiI6gw/bethesda-is-heading-to-pax-east-2017

[3-1] Nevermore, an add-on for Trailblazer
>>/vr/thread/3826106#p3829402
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B93dAHEWrRc-dFhSTklHUWVaQzQ

[2-28] Some BTSX News
https://www.doomworld.com/vb/post/1721926

[2-26] Brutal Doom v21 soon?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ggxUX5jYgrM

[2-26] Various downloads of retro FPS games were dumped in a previous thread (follow the backlinks)
>>/vr/thread/3821570#p3821997

[2-24] MaxEd actually starting progress on DukeBuilder, the absolute madman
https://github.com/m-x-d/Duke-Builder

[2-23] Universal Intermission Screen Mod released; a visual megawad progress tracker
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=46&t=55323

[2-22] Freedoom v0.11.1 released, fixes SBARINFO
https://github.com/freedoom/freedoom/releases/tag/v0.11.1

[2-21] TheRailgunner is back, expect progress on The Trooper and X-Weapon
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=55321
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?p=978921#p978921

[2-20] Disjunction released
https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom2/Ports/d-f/disjunct

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=== PROTIP ===

If you would like to submit any news or your personal map or mod releases here, please reply/backlink to this post.

2nd for The Stranger is a based weapons pack.

Are the devs of Final Doomer okay? There haven't been any progress updates in a while.

>>3847441
time to shitpost about how the project's dead

>>3847408
KDITD has a lot more enemies and harder encounters than Chex Quest 1

You can legitimately do Nightmare runs on it without having to rush levels

>>3847441
I caught Shivers playing 100% Orange Juice

For anybody that didn't catch it in the last thread, here's an addon for running FinalDoomer in Heretic & Hexen:

https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B93dAHEWrRc-OWllQXdGRlBCQWs

I guess chex quest was a bad benchmark. I'm playing through doom 2 right now and I'm on tricks and traps and I'm trying to see if I can beat it without rushing to the cyber demon room and just grabbing the keys before invulnerability runs out.

I am playing on the lowest setting though

>>3847452
Cling it to the news post >>3847429 so it doesn't get missed

>>3847452
What is final doomer?

Running gmota in hexen is loads of fun

Hi /doom/, I'm fucking depressed and I want to die.

>>3847447
Yes, and my comparison between early Scythe and KDITD is that early Scythe was easier...

Also, the guy never specified only chex 1.

>Download literally any .wad
>Do literally anything
>At least 500 Revenants and 100 Arch-Viles

I think I'm starting to get sick of Doom.

>>3847460
Please don't leave, there's more demons to toast!

>>3847478
I can never get sick of these games. I honestly think they are true 10/10 games. If any games deserved such a score it was these games.

>>3847480
I think he's actually trying to take the fight to the demons anon.

>>3847458

https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=55061

>>3847478
Try Bloodstain

>>3847469
Chex Quest 2 and 3 don't get that much harder outside of the bosses and that lost soul section outside the mothership thing

Also early Scythe is harder than KDITD

>>3847478
>Chaingunner closet traps

>>3847480
I'm not going to self-gib here, I just feel like shit and wish my brain would produce some fucking serotonin and dopamine already.

To stop getting off-topic, what are you fuckers working on tonight?

>>3847489
>the pistols have infinite reloads

what did he mean by this?

>>3847495
I'm still trying to figure out what the fuck to do with the lost soul ghosty things in Babel. I made them a bit faster and a bit more able to harm the player so I'm hoping that moves them more towards the original intent of being a sort of optional moving obstacle, something the player can go through but doesn't want to.

>>3847501
The magazine doesn't stop entering the gun

>>3847495

My game jam entry.
Most of the weapons are done, most of the enemies are done, the big problem is mapping. As it always is, really.

Still, it's really fun to do something completely different. Platforming is fun.

Anyone have the final version + english for Grezzo 2, just checked the dev's site and all the downloads for it are dead on all the external sites for it.

>>3847490
>Also early Scythe is harder than KDITD

Not really. First 6 maps are a lot easier. 7-14 are at most about equal.

Give me gameplay mods to play Sunlust with or Hissy gets it.

>>3847517
Though I guess map06 and 10 do have a somewhat tougher moment in each. But still mostly easy peasy lemon squeezy.

>>3847524
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=36877
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=46787
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=45872

>>3847501
>>3847505
Maybe it's like RotT 2013 and you can just pointlessly reload your endless clip.

>>3847537
>>3847524
DoomRLA sans monsters is also really good.

In case you don't know what Chacal 3D is
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AOAyrP1KXSA

I make-a the meme-a

does doom have enemies take damage from hurt floors? checkmate doomcucks

>>3847559
i saw your post in the other thread

>>3847595
blood has monster infighting as well which is nice since duke3d doesn't have it

>>3847595

https://zdoom.org/wiki/CheckActorFloorTexture

Boom, done. Guncaster uses this to augment the effects of some spells when they hit certain surfaces, by the way.

>>3847595
Does Blood have a source port?

>>3847618

How the flying fuck do people enjoy Hideous Destructor?

I have never seen anything so poorly implemented and intentionally painfully paced as this mod,

>>3847618
No.

>>3847618
No, which is still fucking horrifyingly sad given that at the end of the day it's a better game than Quake.

Blood 2: the Chosen really deserves the hate it gets though, holy fucking shit 30,000

>>3847621

people pay to get kicked in the balls

it's like that

>playing through vinewads
>some neat stuff here and there, even some of the newcomers give me pause and "ah!" of delight but there's some crap ones
>hit Body Sacrificing Station
>everything going well, really neat
>hit the end
>MICROSOFT SAM RENDITION OF HERO SS3
>AGITATED KAMIKAZIS
>MY FACE
>MY SIDES
>MY SIDES' FACES
>WE HAVE NO FACE
Absolute kek. Shame my computer and net are imploded.

>>3847547
Arguing with you. Monster pack is great.

>>3847618

>>3847618

>>3847618

Hard mode just loves these guys, doesn't it?
I'm having way more fun on this setting, but god damn is the Shambler population high on some maps now.

>>3847547
>sans monsters

You need something to make those monsters more dangerous. Some class+weapon combos make you pretty much unstoppable otherwise.

>>3847662
Try playing on UV+

Large cacobi+amigo swarms are a true terror, as are hellstorm elementals and hungry packs.

>>3847618

>>3847661
Shamblers, you say?

>>3847668
Sans monsters means no monsters anon

DoomRLA with vanilla monsters is just a slaughter the second you get anything decent

Doom RLA + Monsters at least they have a chance until you get a good suit of armor and a top tier weapon

>>3847598
thank

>>3847618
Fuck you.

>>3847429

OC Remix of some Doom songs by Mick Gordon in 2005, 11 years before he did NuDoom's OST: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2LmwGPtVnmc

>>3847661
>hardmode throws your first Shambler encounter at you like two levels in and it's three of them at once
Nailgun motherfucker. If you're super daring and they're alone you can get in close and bait them into using melee.

>>3847618
No, and it is a good fucking thing given the splits that occurred between the competitive players in Doom, Duke Nukem, Warzone 2100 and possibly other games that had their source code released. No issues with map compatibility, no issues with source-port wars, there is only one executable and that is fucking it.
If you want to mod, get unity engine to do your stuff, no need to turn the game into a fucking console of sorts itself.

>>3847693
DRLA monsters would be more interesting if the monsters were more likely to get their more difficult variants the further you progress in a map set.

>>3847742
http://yhollkai.tumblr.com/

What are some good fluidsynth/trinity soundfonts out there? So far I have Retro synth Pc.sf2, take a listen.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ZMews3-9Jc

>>3847763
Rip and Tear to the 80's.

>>3847737
literally no one plays blood multiplayer though

>>3847810
Not even yo moms nigga.

TINY DOOM

>>3847458
How do you run GMOTA in hexen?

>>3847848

>>3847662
>You need something to make those monsters more dangerous

This was for Sunlust.

>>3847541
>>3847501
What he means is that your pistol has a limited clip, but you have infinite ammo to put into it.
So you empty the clip, but reloading it doesn't cost ammo.
Sorry if I fucked up gun terms there, is it Magazine instead of Clip?

>>3847878
Aren't there some weird issues though? If memory serves right some of the sprites from GMOTA share names with Hexen

Doomworld redesign is looking gimmicky

anyone know of any good deathtrap dungeon-kinda Thief levels?

>>3847909
I'm going to miss the old VBulletin.

>>3847909
>impse

>>3847836
>320x240
>tiny
you are like a tiny baby

>>3847909
How do you do this?

>>3847909

is this a mobile app of sorts?

>>3847979
He's replacing the forum software (for the first time ever, heh).

>>3847994
I hope the avatar pixel size limit gets increased. 64x64 is tiny as fuck in 2017.

>>3847905
Not sure, I haven't gotten that far

E2M8's music reminds me of the King of Hill theme. The beginning part I mean.

>>3847997
from the shot it looks like 128x128 at least (in big mode I mean)

>>3847552

Final Doomer is damn good, but the TNT pistol is so much louder than everything else. Like, jeez, man.

I have a feeling when BTSX E2 gets its update, it's going to be a bit more major with the changes compared to the recent update to E1. the old DW megawad club thread basically says that map 08 and 13 in the beta were placeholders and were getting replacements, for example.

>>3847909
Is there any way to keep the old design?
I hate needless redesigns.

>this fucking shitty ass skybox

Seriously, id?

An example of why the common weapon archetype of "weak sidearm with infinite ammo" should be avoided

>>3848205
Do you have ammo for any of your other guns? Because if you do, you got only yourself to blame for sitting there plinking away at your target.

>>3848205
Why? Over reliance on it because you're afraid to use ammo?

So while trying to make a wave beam, I took a peak at how it was handled in dreadnought, seeing that it was using a_changevelocity, I quickly put it into play in my project.

I forgot to apply a negative force to the flight loop.

>>3848216
A_Weave won't work?

>>3848218
A_weave came out looking kinda shitty, though a_changevelocity's not looking so hot either. It's pretty apparent I don't play with these functions often

This actually feels like handling a vehicle now. Nevermind the ugly jittering of the player sprite, it can be hacked around if some arcane combination of warp flags doesn't work. Important thing is that it works in first person perspective.

If someone knew where I could find a low poly roofless sports car model that would be really great by the way.

>>3848120
Haha, yeah, I'll try and get it more in line with the other sounds, sorry.

I can imagine the level designer thinking that this could be an interesting encounter. A long corridor with no cover and a powerful enemy at the end, the player has to move quick and weave left and right to dodge his shots and kill him as fast as possible when he gets close. Well, too bad.

>>3848208
Why use ammo when there's nothing pressuring you to do so? In these two scenarios there were no threats that are pushing the player to try to kill things as quickly as he can. You don't know how tough the next encounters are going to be and how the item placement is going to be so why not save as much ammo as you can?

I shouldn't have to make the game fun and exciting, good game design should do it for me.

>>3848220
webm related

>>3848239
Do you put megaman at fault because of the mega buster?

>>3848243
The two games and the ways their weapons are made available and their utilities are nothing alike. Note that I said "sidearm". The mega buster isn't treated like a sidearm.

>>3848243
Have a variable called "t" and use the sine and cosine of that number to thrust the projectile something like such:


x: thrustamount* cos(angle)* cos(t)
y: thrustamount* sin(angle)* cos(t)

Think this should work but I could be having a brainfart. Might need to change one of the cos(t) to sin(t) but I'm not sure.

P.S. add 1 to t every tic.

Uugh, you'll need to scale cos/sin(t) like this too:

(cos(t)*2.0)-1.0

>>3848246
I mean to be fair in Doom 1, and quake you could theoretically fight everything with your melee weapon, it'd take a long ass time, but you could do it. I'm still in full support of infinite ammo sidearms, but then again when I do such things I give them weird utility functions or some other odd quirk to make sure a player can't just use them endlessly with no penalty of some kind.

>>3848250
>>3848252
>>3848259
I got the a_weave to work, I was overthinking it.

>>3847618
Not yet, but check the news, it's coming
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFmMxmoVXJI

>>3848292
What about the accuracy of recreating the gameplay elements of Blood, how is that guy planning to do that? If he's not using reverse-engineering to find out the exact behavior of physics, enemies, etc. in the original game (like the developers of the XL and Kex engines are doing) then this may as well be just another BloodCM.

So I have a problem regarding my little NES Metroid mod: I have no fucking clue what I'm gonna do for pickup sprites for the various beam ammo types (wave, ice, plasma, missiles are a no brainer though)

Anyone have any ideas? I've been drawing a blank for days

>>3848317
just rip the ones from the original metroid?
or one of the other ones (super, zero...)

>>3848392
Yeah but like, I'm using the statues as weapon pickups. I'm trying to figure out what I'm gonna use as ammo pickups, and there's no 2D metroid games out there that have ammo-based beams. Hence why I'm stuck

>>3848395
oh.
um, i guess you can't go wrong with a little tube (like a smaller metroid container) glowing with the same colors as your shots?

>>3848403
Yeah I'm gonna have to do some minor ass-pullage here. I'll see what I can come up with later today

>>3848271
>Update
Remember to make it also weave in the other direction sometimes. Pretty sure the NES wave beam did that.

>>3848409
Yeah, gonna do that later too, I'm just happy the beam works now, and I'm tired as fuck and putting off sleep.

>>3848216
>PARABOLA BEAM ACQUIRED.webm

>>3848395
>I'm trying to figure out what I'm gonna use as ammo pickups
>>3848317
>no fucking clue what I'm gonna do for pickup sprites for the various beam ammo types (wave, ice, plasma, missiles are a no brainer though)
What else is there?

>>3847495
A big pot of chili with lots of chrushed tomatoes and diced paprika. And waiting for my copy of Doom 4 to arrive.

this looks like a trap.

>>3848468
welp

>>3848472
hold fucking still, these aren't bolts cheap

>>3848478
fuckin forcefield, fine i'll backtrack

>>3848482
comfy

>>3847624
>Holy fucking shit 30,000
Is that a fucking Have A Nice Life reference?

>>3848483
wut?

>>3848486
when all else is expended, tyson the motherfucker.

>>3848490
good sectoring

>>3848493
>Map plainly states that something is there
>a wall is in the way

>>3848181
It probably looked better when 800X600 was still high end.

>>3848497
>10 minutes walking around pressing open
>trigger a lamp post

ahh, the doom 2-isms

>>3848468
what mod is that?

>>3848502
this doesn't look ominous

>>3848503
if i tell it'll trigger /doom/

>>3848504
& this is how i ended my run, firing all my weapons blindly into a fake wall full of strong enemies then charging with my melee & them killing me

>>3847742
That kind of breaks the whole point of a rogue-like.

I was following the Doombuilder tutorial and placed a door in two lines of a sector. In the tutorial they were always facing outwards, same when I tried it myself.

Then, later, I tried making a door again, but I found that the lines were facing inward. How could that have happened?

>>3848225
>doomguy_fucks_car_part_3.webm
>>3848501
At first I thought there were HOM's, turns out I was wrong.
>>3848509
Mod's name, please?

>>3848534
who cares? You can just highlight a linedef and press F.

>>3848535
it's complex heretic. yes, that's a thing

>>3848534
IIRC building lines in a clockwise motion makes the linedefs face inwards, while anti-clockwise makes them face outward.

>>3848564
That's interesting. I wonder why.

>>3848553
Thanks man I got to check this out.

>>3848598
because a linedef is always defined from vertex 1 to vertex 2 with the first sidedef on its right hand side you daft ponce

>>3848632
you

>>3848239
Are you the same moron that complained about berserkers as well?

>>3847429
Anons, need more feedback on my newest wad.
i'm giving you 2 new maps to play now (The last ones)
http://www.mediafire.com/file/17yv68qhk6a8mm8/Discharge.wad
Doomworld beta link
https://www.doomworld.com/vb/wads-mods/93151-discharge-4-maps-beta-test-feedback/
I'm somewhere about 90% done with it

>>3848225
You could try asking /3/.

>>3848673
That looks amazing. How long did it take to make?

>>3848553
I just tested this out a bit and I sometimes couldn't switch weapons. It can't be the keyboard since it works fine so I guess this is a glitch. Didn't happen all the time although enough that it was a problem. Also seemed to be a lot less ammo to collect.

>>3848673
Can you fall through the floor? Some of the later levels looks pretty hard with all that lava.

Also is there any other weapon you may have added that you didn't mention in the bred?

>>3848679
I Think 6 Months

>>3848698
Dont worry the lava wont bother you, its just a detail.
I've combined the "oldbfgfire" with the normal fire and some other effects

>>3848553
>complex heretic
got a download link?

>>3848730
it's in the painkiller servers

>>3848694
i had to remap the keys when i booted heretic. did you do that?

>>3848754
No I didn't at all. It even worked fine for the most part as I played. Once I got the crossbow is when the issue started to occasionally come up. It happened maybe 2 or 3 times. I played the first 3 levels.

Seems pretty cool besides that issue though. I'll be trying it out a more later.

>>3848673
>1500 monsters

Eh, I will pass. I'm not a fan of high monsters counts or fighting a bunch of revenants in tight spaces.

>>3847428
>https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/utils/randomizers/jumble3s

Can someone please explain to me how do install this? Yes, I am retarded, but I want Bo Hell.

>>3848768
1500?!? Since when can Doom have 1500 enemies?!? I thought 300 was bad...

>>3848724
Are these just new maps with custom textures, or are there other new things? 6 months for 6 maps (?) must mean they're incredibly detailed/custom

So I've been seeing that whole dropbox thing and then I realized that it's actually almost mid-March so is there anything worth getting before it happens?

>>3848775
They must be really NUTS to put that many enemies in a single map, huh?

>>3848818
:O

>When I see someone play DOOM in GZdoom with jumping, crouching, mouselook and lighting effects enabled

>>3848826
All that stuff is necessary, otherwise Doom's a piece of crap

>>3848826
>>3848830
It's the difference between Quake 2 (PC) and Quake 2 (N64)

>>3848826
Ah, the classic "You're having wrong sort of fun" post. Well memed, my friend.

>>3848839
>Load MAP03
>Jump up into the window
>Finish level in 10 seconds, completely bypassing 80% of it
>"DONT TELL ME HOW TO HAVE FUN"

>>3848781
Well there is some new stuff i can say.
Map 2, 4 and 6 have a boss fight at the end.

Weapons have been changed to make the gameplay more dynamic and faster.

I've played a lot with the Dynamic lighting and some 3d floors.

But after all the maps plays similar to the normal game.

And most of the time that i've spended making Discharge was on map 5 and 6. they are inspired on Sunder / Sunlust so they were very time consuming to make.

>>3848841
I get a little giggle out of sequence breaking

A little hehe

>>3848846
How long have you been mapping? How did you learn?

>>3848841
Well, unless it's a letsplayer/streamer who does "AM SO OOOLDSKUUL" sort of thing, you're wrong.

>>3848826
>playing a WAD that is not entirely clear on whether jumping and crouching is required or not but does not have those two disabled

Does anyone know if Crispy DOOM has some way to add a 5th episode on the selection screen? I have a custom .wad with E5MX maps and I can't play it because it uses MAPINFO for zDOOM. I know how to edit the .wad files but I don't want to have the maps replacing original DOOM maps.

>>3848858
>playing a WAD

>>3848858
That doesn't bother me. Jump around in Brutal DOOM all you want. But when you play the official campaigns and you jump through windows you were not meant to jump through etc. then you are just.

Hey Billy!

You up there playin with ya WADS again?

>>3848861
>playing

>>3848861
>>3848869
>>3848885
Loading a WAD. Playing a map. Playing a mod. Whatever.

>>3848841
>implying map03 is fun
you could've at least used map07 as your example

>>3848673
Tried map 5 and didn't like it, ended up using god mode to finish it although I suppose that's my fault for instinctively choosing hard mode.

The starting area was fine, I liked the triple arch vile setup but the pistol feels like its there just because, its useless considering we get a chaingun just before

I'm unsure about the cyberdemon, on the one hand its very difficult with the teleporting, but it is early in the map so dying isn't too much of an issue

The next battle, with the megaarmor, wasn't much fun either but this time not because of the difficulty. Two viles at once creates an intense situation but its too similar to the starting area and to add to that the imps don't do much

The following section was where I enabled god mode, dealing with 3 revenants and multiple turret enemies, including an arch in such a small space was too much for me, I tried hiding in the secret area and I tried killing the revs quickly with my 3 rockets but both strategies got me fried by the arch

Can't comment much on the final bit since I was god mode but it seemed more doable than the previous section

I can see you've put a lot of work into this map but in my opinion the floors are over-detailed to hell, which would be fine in a single map but it appears throughout the wad. You have too many different contrasting designs on the floor in each "arena" and it can be offputting, the exit zone of map 5 looks fine, for instance

Finally, I also didn't like being forced to kill each monster to move onto the next section I much prefer having the option to dash for the switches (which you did on the final battle strangely) as this can feel quite restrictive

There's a green dot on the skybox too

>>3848940
just meming you m8, no hard feelings

What is the recommended cycles for Quake in Dosbox? I'm using 90,000 right now and it seems to be smooth.

>>3848984
Just go with max

>>3848826
I'm playing Alien Vendetta right now with mouselook.
Map 11 sucked so much balls. Way too cramped.
>>3848858
This, although sometimes I will play a wad like a purist. It just depends on how I want to play at the moment really. I do like when they mention it or when the creater disable the jump at least since it lets me know the intended way to play the wad.

>>3848947
>There's a green dot on the skybox too
It's the ayyyyliens.

>>3848989
That's what I was using, but it was giving me random slowdowns.

MetaDoom update when? has Kinsie find new sprites for the monsters or something?

>>3848947
That's ZDaemon levels of brightness.

>>3848984
Why are you trying to play Quake in dosbox?

>>3849013
For that retro feel.

>>3849021
Isn't vanilla quake playable without it, though? Or am I remembering wrong.

>>3848858
What wads arent clear about jumping?

>>3849057

Winfuckingquake can do this


but then there's always the memetard retrofags asking for dosbox to record it on Youtube later

>>3847707
It's hideous

>>3847707
>>3849112
He has such a unique sound.

>>3848826
>when I see some moron reposting something he made days ago and got shat on for

>>3849069
GZDoom required maps arent always clear about it. But those are fairly rare compared to vanilla, limit removing and boom maps.

>>3849126
That sound in that mix is basically a copy of Ministry with a trash metal flavour retained from the original OST

Do you guys save through out a level or do you try to complete the level in one go even if you die a bunch?

>>3849167
Depends entirely on A) the size of the level and B) if it relies on traps or some other frustrating thing that makes replaying not-fun.

>>3849167
In general, a level is not beaten if it isn't pistol started in one go. Usually, this means that I just take it from the top every time I die.

That said, I may quicksave if I notice that I'm continually dying from one part that I think is bullshit, like a jump or a trap. If I make it past that part and die to something else later, I'll take it from the top.

>>3849167
Pistol start and do it in one sitting if it is something I never beat before

Otherwise I'm playing with mods and still doing that same sort of rule provided the levels aren't stupidly long

This includes Hideous Destructor
I wish more mods had the same sort of feeling to it, it's the best action horror mod for Doom and also it's just plain old fun

>>3848826
You forgot
>filters

>>3849262
>filters
Why do people say this as a blanket statement when they're actually just referring to trilinear and bilinear? Linear (nearest) + 16x anisotropic dindu nuffing

>>3849265
it did plenty

>>3849269
Everything looks like fucking ass in high resolution without it

>>3848826
>mfw people use mlook in vanilla wads

>>3849265
scale/resize filters are also disliked.

>>3849289
Oh yeah, the "HQ" filters. Forgot about those. They're unquestionably disgusting.

>>3849285
no

>played that old Doomtown WAD from the last thread
That's a really comfy map, what other good WADs are like it, where you can wander about a 'realistic' town or city?

>>3847428
http://youfailit.net/pub/idgames/levels/doom2/
Are "Ports" folder where they store the non-vanilla stuff?

>>3849323
Yes.

>>3848826
Nerd.

Was Strife wasted potential?

>>3849338
There was no waste; it's a good game. I'd like a spiritual successor with heavier RPG elements though. And not just lol crafting and stats, I mean meaningful choices, sidequests and so on.

>>3849338
I feel that maybe it wasn't quite as focused as it could have been.

>>3849338
It uses a Doom-shaped key on an RPG-shaped keyhole. An interesting novelty that probably could have benefited from expanded functionality like that of ZDoom.

That was fun
What some other baby mode wads?

>>3848826

>using NuDoom screen to complain about people being casuals

kek

>>3849353
Super 3D Pig Feeder

>>3848775
>[distant sound of Oku plokking]

>>3847429
Link to news post.

So, when I uploaded my Heretic/Hexen compatibility pack for FinalDoomer in >>3847452, I fucked up and uploaded the wrong pk3. Here's the real one:

FIXES:
-There was an invalid option in the FinalDoomer options menu.
-The regular Doom class' statbar's graphics have been properly converted to paletted PNGs so they don't glitch in Heretic & Hexen palette.
-Armors have their pickup sprites.
-Rockets & Plasma Bolts have their projectile sprites.
-Heretic's keys show up in the HUD.
-In Heretic, the Tome of Power now augments your weapons, giving them explosive damage. Currently it only effects weapons on slots 2-4. Since this is just an addon, and editing the weapons would kind of ruin the point, I'm a little limited in what I can do with 'toming' the weapons.
-In Hexen, you no longer find weapon pieces. Ammo spawns instead.
-In both Heretic & Hexen, you can now set the likelihood of the Super Shotgun spawning instead of the Shotgun.

https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B93dAHEWrRc-VjM1WjN3bEhkdHc

If anyone wants to know, the map in the pic is Christopher Lutz's 'Icebound'. Gorgeous Heretic map.

>>3848826

>>3849338

Would've been cool if they did something with stealth in that game.

They give you a silent melee weapon and the crossbow's poison bolts are silent 1-hit kills, but none of the maps really make use of stealth.

Also, Strife is a pain in the ass to mod. Take it from one of the few who has.

>>3849392
It's a shame it's such a convoluted mess because it's SO COOL and there's so many things you could do for it.

I guess maybe if someone made a TC for ZDoom, like converted the maps and all, maybe it could be a bit easier, a simpler template. Most of your work is already done for you as all the Things are already defined as actors by ZDoom

>>3848851
Sorry for the delay. I've been maping since 2009, and how did i learn? well by just screwing with the editor for a long time

>>3848947
About map 5 and 6, they are meant to be hard, on map 5 i've tried to combine traps and monster combinations, and not throwing 100 revenants at the players face.

Like i said, they are based on Sunlust for example... but thanks for playing dude!

And what the hell is that green dot

>>3849338
no, it's good as it is.
However, it didn't age that well, and a remake/sequel (using GZdoom or a derivate) would be really great.
better stealth, a grappling hook (and fitting level tweaks), having options to do most quests guns blazing or stealthy and more story branches would help the game a lot.

>>3849380
>Since this is just an addon, and editing the weapons would kind of ruin the point, I'm a little limited in what I can do with 'toming' the weapons.
how about a simple damage/speed boost for the other weaps?

>>3849167
I used to savescum a good amount but then i saw /doom/ saying how faggy it is, and i started doing it alot less, i even completed all of congestion 1024 and only saved once, on level 30.
I don't know if i'm getting better or if i'm just easily influenced

>>3849447

>how about a simple damage/speed boost for the other weaps?

A simple damage boost is easy, but firing speed, not so much. You can give the player a powerup that inherits from PowerDoubleFiringSpeed, but that doesn't always work so well, depending on how a weapon is coded.

>>3848438
Oh woops. I'm retarded. I meant missiles are a no brainer. I still need to figure out something for wave, ice, and plasma

>>3849468

>I still need to figure out something for wave, ice, and plasma

Well, since its a Metroid mod... maybe use Metroid's icons?

>>3848826
Brightmaps and lights on a nighttime level are max comfy

>>3849473
As I said before, I'm using those as the weapon pickups themselves (Chaingun = wave beam, plasma = plasma, SSG = ice)

So I need to find something suitable as an ammo pickup and I'm having a bitch of a time

Does anyone remember this certain Turok mod? It was one that put in weapons from Turok 1 and 2 but I'm having trouble finding it.

>>3849480
Colored orbs with expanding / contracting aura

I think that's what Zero Mission did for energy

>>3849492
Actually I was thinking of putting just the orbs the statue carries in those glass domes.

Why is Disjunction such trash?

>>3849358
you sure are thirsty

>>3849452
>gif
I wonder wh-
WAIT A MINUTE

>>3849358
you brought that up yourself.

why, you a casual?

>>3849358
>implying Doom was ever hardcore aside from meme map packs like Scythe

>>3849521
itsnotevenbaitathispoint.png

I love leveling up and going around with the turret in DooMRPG+RL and summoning the custom monsters that follow me around like a personal strike force.

Is there any mods/weapon mods out there that let me summon troops to advance through the level? preferably if it still has normal weapons you can use along with the unit summoning.

is TNT and Plutonia super hard or am I trash?
Playing on Hurt Me Plenty.

>>3849573
They're pretty tough anon. Keep playing doom and you will git gud.

>>3849567
Why is Combined Arms such shit?

Why does /vr/ hate Brutal Doom?

Metroid Dreadnought is unfinished!

>doombabbies

It's all DKG!

Doom 4 is faster!

Anything I'm missing?

What's the deal with popping translations on weapon sprites? We got that shit yet or is it still a matter of making / TEXTURESing new sprites?

>>3849587
>Anything I'm missing?

probably some sense of self-shame.

just a crazy thought, mind you.

Where did the term "freelook" come from?

>>3849587

>>3849592
Our daddy taught us never to be ashamed of our posts.

>>3849587
>Furries
>Doom 64
>MLP
>OpenGL 3 Requirement
>Feet

>>3849595
I AM NOW A HEAD OF LETTUCE.

>>3849587
>Skillsaw makes slaughtermaps

>>3847429
New vids on Quake Champs, including a trailer for one of the Champs. Also, you can now sign up for the Closed Beta.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rHrq31NWBCg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7IpArsMcs3o

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ePnikEEWCp8

>>3849598
Well, my daddy taught me a few things, too.
Like, uh, how to rip and tear.

>>3849602
uh what

>>3849612

Yeah, I see that. Daddy gave you good advice.

>>3849612
You rip and tear your skin?

>>3849573
TNT's early levels are somewhat harder than Doom 2's early levels. Kinda evens out for the most part by the later levels, though.

Plutonia is definitely a lot harder. IIRC, Dario compared HNTR of Plutonia to UV of Doom 2.

>>3849593

By being able to look around freely.
That's pretty much it.

>>3849626
I'm asking where the term originated from (ie, who coined it), not what the meaning is.

>>3849629

There's not really a recorded origin that I'm aware of. Heretic is the first shooter that used it, I believe, perhaps Raven did.

>>3849632
Thing is, all games back then called it mouselook. Hell, even source ports for doom call it mouselook.

>>3849587
>Doom 4 is faster
where was this said by anybody

>>3849660
Someone measured Doomguy's speed in Doom 1/2 and 4, and allegedly he's faster in 4.

That's all it is, but it gets people in arms because of the implication that 4 is faster in terms of gameplay.

So.... erm... someone suggested the Corridor 7 CD version some threads back... and I've been wondering...

Is it normal to only have ONE song playing trough the entire game? I mean, it's an all right song, and it lasts quite a lot (10 minutes)... but I can see there are at least 4 more songs in the CD and I have yet to listen to any of them.

Someone knows what is going on?

>>3849660
I would provide a nice little link, but desuarchive was down. But basically there was some nerd going on about how the original Dooms were shit and only Doom 4 was good because it was faster and had more enemies.

>>3849663
>>3849660
we've seen a resurface of people (ie one guy) shitposting in retaliation to self-contained discussion of the game, regardless of nature.

>dicking around in SLADE menus
>suddenly a thought about Heretic
>start looking through its files, get to sound
>playing them all, get to lich files
>wake-up and active sounds are the same
>waitaminute
>decide to turn volume to max
>active sound has a faint laughing man in it
>mfw
What even are Iron Liches?

>>3849683
> had more enemies

There wasn't a room full of barons of hell and a cyberdemon. Nor did you fight the icon of sin. There wasn't that many enemies at all

>>3849693
like a regular lich but instead of haunting a body he haunts some iron that looks like a body, basically just a tougher form.

>>3849696
the last level had plenty.

>>3849701
Imagine if they could fly

>>3849521
ammo issues

>>3849607
>skillsaw's maps arent fun they just look pretty

>>3849608
Why is everyone dropping spaghet- NuDoom armor shards all over the floor on death?

>>3849715
Those are apparently not armor here though, they're allegedly charges for the character's ultimates

>>3849693
What if the Iron Lich is just the head of something bigger that hasn't been found yet?

Also, were Heretic monsters made the same way as Doom's was? (digitizing clay figures)?

>>3849338

>MAP14
>Complete clusterfuck of Revenants Guardians, Barons and Arachnotrons for the next ten minutes

Getting real sick of your shit Ancient Aliens

>>3849721
>skillsaw wads
It's par for the course m8. Valiant Vaccinated Edition is more tolerable.

>>3849719
To answer the first question, I read somewhere some time ago that they were once powerful mages who were locked in a tomb as punishment or something. Apparently the engineer thought the best coffin would be a massive steel face in a viking hat.

As for the second question, I'm not sure. Many models look too good to not be digitized, but you never know. From looking at something great as a weredragon and then something not so great like a gargoyle, I have skepticism. It's a lot like Doom 2 really, look at the great sprites of the Archvile (latex), the pretty good Doomguy and Cyber (clay), and then look at the...Imp (I wager they used some paint program for him). It's a Capcom situation where we don't really know how they did their wizardry.

I never liked mirrored sprites in any game unless the thing being mirrored was symmetrical, and it would be very cool to see Corvus' extra rotations released (if they even exist), but I don't think we'll ever see them.

We know so much about Doom because it's lasting popularity and the fact that Romero's a sociable guy, but Raven Software? Heretic? Sadly, not so much. I'd really like to see behind the curtain on Heretic, and really, most other retro FPS out there.

Sorry for the massive posts for two damn questions, I just like Heretic and this sprite topic in general.

>>3849726
>>3849721
>inb4 le skillsaw doesn't actually do slaughter meme

>>3849720

>>3849705
they can

>>3849750
we get it, you're bitter.

>>3849754
you tellin me they actually float through the air?

>>3849756
I'm not sure if you're maybe referring to someone else, but I did recall someone yelling at me on at least two occasions when I said Skillsaw often gets too slaughtery for me.

>>3849757
I don't see why they couldn't, Cacos float, right?

>>3849757

>>3849754 is full of shit. Ironliches don't have the flags to do that.

>>3849759
Liches float as they are just big noggins but I don't ever recall them actually flying

>>3849720
>Acolytes spew out an unnessasary level of gibs
>they're mostly machines at this point
come on now.

>>3849759
>>3849761
Hey, if Revenants somehow ended up with jet packs, I don't see it being too crazy if something hovering could fly as well.
maybe they would actually become a threat, instead of being "those meatshields that occasionally do that annoying tornado"

>>3849769
hey maybe if sgt mark makes brutal heretic then more people will be interested in the game lmao

>>3849769
How DID they get jetpacks?
It should of gone to the chaingunner instead

>>3849775
>nuDoom 2: Plutonia on Earth
>hell razors are now hitscan and fly

Truly, a hardcore FPS for the new age

>>3849778
UH, IT LOOKS TOO MUCH GEARS OF WARS

>>3849778
>hell razors
>not going to Commandovale
Oh yeah?

In Neudoom 2, not only will there be jetpack chaingunners with TELEPORTS BEHIND YOU UNSHEATHS CHAINGUN action; but they will also shoot it left-handed

>>3849720
>mfw mark thought brutal strife was an idea worth posting publicly

>>3849764
maybe they run on red-colored oil like in mgs4 you dont know

>>3849780
>get to the end of the level
>about to activate airlock
>hear the teleport noise behind you
>hear the clicking of a chaingun
>heh.... nothin *stock camel noise* kid...
>player gibs into a hundred pieces
fucking fund this

>>3849781
When all you have is a hammer...

>>3849787
>nothin *stock camel noise* kid

>>3849781
He should get it over with and make Broodle versions of every doom-engine game. Brutal Chex Quest?

"welcome to the breakfast club, HMMPH..HA HA"

>>3849781

Mark's a one-trick pony. He tried making a Brutal Doom 4 thing for Doom but D4D's blown him the fuck out.

>>3849798

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-aK6jhRQspY

Does z& allow me to have multiple funcions for a key? I want to bind the skulltag taunt to the fire button because.

>>3849798
>>3849806
Alternatively, you can just use Samsara.

>>3849806
oh
>it really exists
>the common flemoid explodes into a shower of goo
i have no words

>>3849808
Try using the bind command
If you can't do it, try doing a doublebind instead. That won't allow you to have two things on the same button in the traditional sense, but if you click twice it should add to it instead.

I added slightly more visual flair to the wave beam, but I feel like this is still NES tier stuff

>>3849353

Find the Mr Pib doom clone and play that? I remember I had the floppy a long, LONG time ago.

>>3848826
>>3848841
>Implying I'm not already playing a wad that's actually designed for jumping and mouselook

Ayy to the lmao famalama

>>3849817
I gotta tell ya those black outlines look pretty bad to me. Maybe I'm in the minority but those don't look good at all IMO. Was better before.

>>3849750
But he primarily doesn't, and the few he makes that do count are very very tame compared to the likes of Insane_Gazebo, ArmouredBlood, Archi, Ribbiks, Dannebubinga, Phml, TimeOfDeath etc.

>>3849838
well before I was just using cacodemon projectiles, but if I get enough people arguing against the outlines, I'll trim them out, I personally like the thick outlines

>>3849848
I can't say I mind them. I don't know that it would look better without.

>>3849859
I mainly gave them an outline because the sprites by themselves only consist of a handful of pixels and they'd be extremely hard to spot without them.

>There's an actual Corridor 7 TC for Doom

https://www.doomworld.com/vb/wads-mods/50772-corridor-7-alien-invasion-tc/4/

>>3849861
>>3849848
They're not hard to spot though, since they're sized appropriately.

>>3849817
I don't know if it's bad RNG in the recording, but it looks like it shoots out the right side a lot more often than the left.
I believe the way it works in the NES game is the first beam shot onscreen always comes from the top, the second shot from the bottom, then if a third shot is taken it's from the top again.

>>3849848
I like them.

>>3849867
Does it? Fuck I coulda sworn it was random

>>3849870
After watching a bunch of let's play videos in slow motion, yeah. things get screwy when shots disappear though. Closest I could theorise without opening up the game myself was "first shot onscreen is always from the top, if there is an under shot onscreen also shoot from the top, otherwise shoot an under shot".

>>3849602
Wait, why would furries even be relevant to this thread? Was there ever a furry Doom mod?

>>3849874
I think for the sake of simplicity I'm gonna keep it at random, but I'll further raise the rate at which it zigzags the other way.

>>3849602
>Doom is full 3D

Is one I've seen make the rounds, with the guy using GZDoom to prove his point.

>>3849875
I think it depends on how one interprets Shadow of the Wool Ball and maybe Guncaster. I guess there's also that Evolve shill fella who likes dragons or something.

>>3849602

Every time Guncaster is brought up, some fuckwit has to spergnado out and insist that it's furry because you play as a non-human.

>>3849587
Caleb when

>>3849875
Butthurt /v/tards

>>3849887
Not to be "that guy," but isn't it technically "scalie" cus you're playing as a dragon?


Not that I'm into that, I prefer human pussies B)

>>3849876
Maybe alternate it. but whatever looks better for you.

>>3849893
While there are efforts to distinguish scaly from furry, it's still practically under the same umbrella so I wouldn't blame anyone.

>>3849862
>drdteam link
>mirror is seemingly also down
what a rotten way to die

>>3849914

Oh wow, you're totally right.

Welp, here's hoping someone revives that thread and see if someone actually made a back-up.

Remember when slaughter maps had arch-vile turrets everywhere? I miss those.

>>3850018

>>3849884
>>3849887
>Guncaster
Wow I had no idea Pillowblaster is a furry. Huh.

This mod actually looks fucking fun. What would be a good map to try it on? The flying looks like it'd fuck up most mods.

What megawad will actually be a challenge with Trailblazer?

I feel like I'm just sorta shitting all over all of the enemies here.

What are some good death match levels for Quake 1?

>>3850057
i had fun with trailblazer, doomRL monsters, RLME on the hell on earth starter pack maps

>>3850049
>Wow I had no idea Pillowblaster is a furry
That's because he's not

>>3850049
>What would be a good map to try it on?
Try Hell Revealed 2.

>>3850057
Going Down

rekkr has 7 full maps now, and at least a handful of partially done maps. Got a final version of one today and it plays great and all...

Just feeling pleased as punch about it... :^)

I'm curious, is there a wad that's basically Mario Party but with Doom? Doom Party?

BTSX E1 is now on idgames https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom2/megawads/btsx_e1

>>3850209
Icon of Party.

Thankfully I am soon done with this piece of shit.

>>3850214

So I guess this means demo makers will finally go crazy UV-Maxing it now?

>>3849862
>>3849914
>>3849928
I have it, its Doomsday/JDoom based
Uploading to Mega now.. I'll link it here and on the DRDTeam thread

>>3850235
https://mega.nz/#!lx1kRQAA!BtqSOnHtdHyRXHcxlm9gf4bpqcIMgtsZU4G5lCuXD60

Here you go, have fun everyone

>>3850230
I wonder how popular the hub maps will be for speedrunning, considering their short length.

>>3850242
There, its in the forum thread too.

>>3850072
>i had fun with trailblazer, doomRL monsters, RLME on the hell on earth starter pack maps

Holy shit this is so fun

Thank you anon!

>>3850196
post screenies
glad to hear progress is happening, i really want to try RRERRkr out

Third weapon implemented. This acts as the screen-clearer type weapon in Mega Man games, like Rain Flush, Tornado Blow, Lightning Bolt, etc.
Damage is a little too high and ammo usage too small, at the moment.

So between spread shot ripper, the shield weapon, and this fullscreen weapon, only one more weapon needed.
Not a clue what it'll be.

I think I have a small tier beam ammo pickup now.

>>3849804
speaking of d4d, ponies and unfortunate decision-making... https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=55494

Hey /doom/, what's your favorite Terry trap?

>>3850436
Not sure, Millennia Invasion maybe?

>>3850436
Crews, and a box on a stick attached to a rope. HTH.

>>3850436
never played a terry wad, and don't plan to change that, so I wouldn't know.

>>3850414
regular ol' rocket launcher?

>>3850421
This is some terminal velocity autism he has got there. I seriously wish it wasn't vore+giant fetish.

Oh cool, this shit again.

>>3850421
No one cares.

>>3849079
Well, WinQuake was released in 1997. Some of us really like keeping to 1996 Quake.

>>3848984
90,000? How did you get it that high without issues? I believe (don't have it in front of me to check) I have it around 50,000 because more started having random slowdowns. I also can't use max as max is broken in DOSBox-Daum.

>>3849167
For Doom I am lazy and just spam my way through it. For Quake I shotgun start every level. E2M6 is quite the struggle and anyone that sees Quake as easy should try it :P

>>3850485
I tried shotgun start on E4M7, shit was nuts. Quake clearly wasn't designed around it because pickups for each weapon show up only once or twice throughout an episode.

>>3848984

The recommenden number of cycles for Quake is Quakespasm.

>>3850421
Jesus fucking christ I made the mistake of clicking on the link to his deviantart profile.

I swear, every time I learn something about a doom community's life and interests outside of doom I deeply regret doing so.

doom community member's*

>>3850414
Ogh, kinda seisure warning-ish there. Not really pleasant to look at (and bland?).

>>3850505

Yeah, that's the Doomworld crowd.

Zdoom forum mod faggots are bronies. Apparently.

>>3850420
Neat, based on anything or make it yourself? Also, did Metroid pickups always strobe like that?

>>3850508
I mod for zdoom I find that shit absolutely disgusting.

The worst of the worst are the people who dwell exclusively in the "off topic" section of the zdoom forums though.

>>3850512

I meant gameplay mods, not the moderators, so no offense. :-D

>>3850509
I took the glass dome pickup for morph ball bombs, removed the glass part and added little "claws" to hold the beam orb, and yeah all pickups in Metroid 1 have a strobe effect.

I just recently discovered I used the wrong color for the wave beam orb so I'm gonna need to go change that too

>>3850516
Yeah I understood that. The moderators are pretty good AFAIK, and if they're secretly sick fucks I don't know of it and don't wish to.

Say farewell to John Carmack guys

he's done after it, and he will become the next broussard

>https://www.pcinvasion.com/john-carmack-sues-zenimax-22-5-million

>>3850606
>this level of pessimism

This isn't /v/ you know.

>>3850606
either he wins and it's good for him, VR and us (as zewimax is pretty bad)
or he loses and with a bit of luck Romero convinces him to work on Blackroom

>>3850606
Ye of little faith.

The cyber age has started, and he is one of the most full fledged cyber warriors.

>>3850619
>>3850625
>>3850639

Remember that Hope is the 1st step on the Road to Disappointment, though i believe that Zenimax will pay up so he may shut up for a while, i also believe that Zenimax will use everything on their reach to make him lose.

Hollenstead disappeared after he quit id a bit after Zenimax bought them

Right, that's a little closer to completion.

Speaking of autsim. Sorry for the low video quality.

>>3850493
Indeed, it isn't really designed with it in mind like Doom, which is ironic since you essentially needed to play like that back in 1996 (bugged saves). The most painful part is Zombies, since you can't kill them in most levels as they weren't nice enough to give you explosives.

Trying it out on an end of episode map? That is definitely painful unless it is E1M7 for obvious reasons. Episode 4 is evil in general, needing to kill Spawns with a Shotgun means you need to have good reaction times. E4M7 was quite painful as the Spawns there were able to instantly kill me regardless of health/armor once in a great while. I think all three end levels just had the Shotgun. Needless to say, E4M7 definitely has some tension. Still not as rough as E2M6 however, there is at least more room to move around and the enemies there were easier to get to infight. You need infighting a lot, especially on E2M6, where there is a ridiculous lack of ammo and giant mobs of Zombies that you cannot kill. Trust me, it's a sadists paradise, I love it :P

>>3850649
i love epilepsy!

Okay, fags. I came back to 4chan for one reason and one reason only:
There was a wad that centered around an otaku trying to save all his waifus from the demons. The health bonuses and armor bonuses were replaced with Mountain Dew and Doritos. I used to have it on my other PC but I gotta show this shit to a friend of mine.

Where the hell did it go?

>>3850657
w/e i'd kill to be the guy that created undertale. he made bank and he's guaranteed to make bank on his next game.

>>3850671
dikzak.wad?

>>3850693
Are we doing WAD requests? Could someone find me ep4b and ep5a?

>>3850693
Are we doing WAD requests? Could someone find me E6.WAD?

Can someone recommend me mapsets with a similar style of feel to Monster Hunter Limited? As in gritty urban or industrial environments with custom textures.

>>3850671
>I came back to 4chan
And you can leave again. Get out.

>>3847618

>>3850721
I got what I came here for.

anyone know where new gothic movement map 11 midi is from? it's something like 50 minutes long and sounds amazing

>>3850382

>>3850775
nvm fixed it

>>3850768
So it was dikzak you were asking for? The guy making only posted about in on /vr/ afaik

>>3850781
Noice. Are those custom textures or are they ripped from somewhere?

>>3850786
Yeah, that was the one. Did he ever finish it or is the demo the only one in existence?

...and is the slimegirl the only easter egg, or am I missing a dozen waifus?