/vr/ - Retro Games

=== CURRENT EVENTS ===

[Highway to Hell] Second phase of mapping ends on Feb 28th (that's real soon!)
>>/vr/thread/3757618#p3759223

[Til 4-1] QUMP is still going!
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Zlfb2U2VCeS70uS6Klc2ZEOC9KtnYyCyBXEmeetjh0c/edit

[Til 3-15] Dropbox will be dropping support of public folders in mid-March

=== NEWS ===

[2-26] Brutal Doom v21 soon?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ggxUX5jYgrM

[2-26] Various downloads of retro FPS games were dumped in a previous thread (follow the backlinks)
>>/vr/thread/3821570#p3821997

[2-24] MaxEd actually starting progress on DukeBuilder, the absolute madman
https://github.com/m-x-d/Duke-Builder

[2-23] Universal Intermission Screen Mod released; a visual megawad progress tracker
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=46&t=55323

[2-22] Freedoom v0.11.1 released, fixes SBARINFO
https://github.com/freedoom/freedoom/releases/tag/v0.11.1

[2-21] TheRailgunner is back, expect progress on The Trooper and X-Weapon
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=55321
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?p=978921#p978921

[2-20] Disjunction released
https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom2/Ports/d-f/disjunct

[2-18] Intermission E1M9 uploaded
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SrlFLXMRQLg

[2-17] Vinesauce Doom Mapping Contest 2016 winners finally announced; WADs released for download
https://vargskelethor.me/winners/
https://vargskelethor.me/winners/wads/

[2-15] /doom/ news archive now available!
http://pastebin.com/PZDkqABT

[2-14] MetaDoom updated to 3.0
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=53010

[2-12] Circle of Demons update
http://www.moddb.com/mods/circles-of-demons/news/reworking-on-panels

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=== PROTIP ===

If you would like to submit any news or your personal map or mod releases here, please reply/backlink to this post.

>>3826106
I now just realized that I missed out on the opportunity to use "D_RUNNIN" instead.

>>3826117
You can try again in a few months

>>3826119
What does Blaz look like behind the visor anyway

>>3826134
We're thinking about changing the beard to be more like a Kenshiro style beard.

>>3826146
He's looking pretty manly already.

>>3826148

>>3826146
Reminds me of Arthur from Ghosts 'n Goblins

>>3826152
Yeah, that's the idea, he's a cross between Arthur, Doomguy, and BJ Blazkowicz.

and so it begins.

>>3826189
holy shit that looks lewd

>>3826189
And thus began the world's second greatest penis pump.

>>3826189

BEHOLD MY MIGHTY GUNCOCK

>>3826191
>>3826193
>>3826194

It's gonna be reallly hard to make this not look like a dick gun.

>>3826207
i wonder if you can do charged shots somehow

>>3826213
I was thinking about that, but I'm aiming for a knockoff of really old Metroid combat, so no charge shots will be here.

>>3826216
charged shots were in about every metroid games, no? they definitely were in super metroid at the very least

>>3826218
when I say really old. I mean REALLY old

>>3826220
oh.

Is there a SP map in the style of Quake's DM4, or maybe a map that uses the textures like in the picture?

Did sticking a handle on the side help?

>>3826237
A lot less dick-like, yes.

>>3826241
Should I stick with the handle or put a resting hand on the base of the gun?

>>3826245
Not that anon, But i like the look of the handle

>>3826234
Isn't Quake's third episode basically sorta that style?

>>3826234
Imagine if you tripped up on one of those holes

>>3826234
E1M6, E3M6.
A few others, the one with all the moving platform trains

>>3826207
The trick is to not have the barrel retract like that
That is what makes it look like dickgun

Also it's ribbed for their pleasure

>>3826260
I'm just basing the design off artwork of Samus' really old arm cannon. And how recoil worked in NEStroid, the barrel actually retracted

>>3826265
Yes but it never really felt like a dick gun because pixels + side view

In first person you might have to make some compromises or accept that penis action is a thing

>>3826267
Might have to just accept it then. So lay back and accept the penis.

>>3826270
It's fine really

As long as the weapons are fun to use
What kind of weapons do you have planned?

>>3826272
Gonna take a whack at recreating Metroid 1's arsenal in Doom, with a few tweaks here and there

http://pastebin.com/Pmb8VVik

>>3826265
I would make the barrel retraction more instant. its the slow gyration that makes it look phallic or something...

if it looks more like quick recoil and less like slow extension and retraction, you should be pretty safe.

This >>3826237 is already pretty close.

I think the main way to fix it would be to have it off center to the right, help up exactly as samus is holding it, with a the left hand coming across the middle of the screen to grip underneath.

>>3826237
IMO - rid the retraction part of the animation and make gun open up instead, as if it is made of 4 lids.

Complete open up = rocket.

Lids rotating around - chaingun shot.

>>3826106
I literally just got into Doom.

What's the most active source of multiplayer? I keep seeing slapfights arguing over GZDoom vs Zandronum.

>>3826283
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y7x2Vn2qhCA

>>3826274
That sounds like a nice weapon selection

I hope you have good luck on your mod and I look forward to playing it

>>3826283
The answer is obvious, Zandronum is based off of GZdoom. If GZdoom had multiplayer worth a damn, Zandronum wouldn't exist in the first place.

>>3826296
Too bad the fun mods like Reelism don't work on Zandro.

>>3826276
I'm not sure if I can safely have it off center though, that'd cause issues with the projectiles. and I kinda like the side handle now that it's on there, though I'm willing to switch it to a hand under the arm gun, or on top. But let me try making the recoil faster to start with

A friend of mine also mentioned the tip being a blueish metal color makes it stand out more and makes it more dick like, so I'm gonna desaturate it later and hopefully that will help.

>>3826280
The gun's gonna open up when you switch to missiles

>>3826283
ZDoom : mods/wads for single play
Zandro : Literally exists for multiplayer

>>3826298
The handle makes it look like a jackhammer dildo. If it was a melee weapon instead of shooting I'd probably die laughing.

You should make a fork off project where you make it as dicklike as possible for a laugh

>>3826297
It cant be helped if modders don't design their mod around multiplayer, Even if it could run in zandronum it would run like shit,

Take a look at project brutality with Zandro 3.0 for example

>>3826305
What if the barrel remains stationary, but the barrel tip slides back as the player fires?

>>3826309
Frankly I'd roll with it.

'Have you played that wad with the dickgun' is free advertising desu

>>3826312
I'd rather not. I'm trying to make a nice little tribute to the NES Metroid.

Besides HDoom has me beat there with the chainsaw vibrator.

>>3826298
>that'd cause issues with the projectiles
you can offset the projectiles so they look like they're coming out of the offset gun. Its not too hard to do. I think A_CustomMissileAttack does it

>>3826319
Would the projectile still actually be coming from the center of the player view? GMOTA's arm cannon suffers from this if you try to fire around certain corners. Same thing with Metroid Drednought

Last thread people mentioned Suab 2. As the guy who worked on SUAB 1, I hate to break it to you but it won't happen. CT sent me the resource file and barely any of the weapon sprites were done. And he lost motivation to work on them. I ain't no sprite artist so that's never going to happen, sorry guys.Gon' have to wait for Aliens to come out, if my motivation to code stays coherent.

>>3826237
it'd look better with a hand holding the gun
kind of like how Cobra shoots his psygun

>>3826321
hmm good point. it would probably hit the corner of the right, but eh, thats realism I guess, you'd get used to it but I can understand if thats a turn off.

You could also change the angle of view, so you're looking straight down the barrel instead of down on it, that way the telescoping would only show up when the gun kicks upwards, or even not at all.

well it appears that palmer lucky managed to screw with carmack in so many ways that is impossibru to think that the Meme magic ran dry

>https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2017/02/27/zenimax-oculus-rift-sdk-injunction

>>>/vg/

what do u guys think of brutal doom

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVtDsQ5L_oc

>>3826389
What do you think of putting your dick on an anvil and hitting it with a hammer?

>>3826397
not retro

>>3826383

oh boy, is carmack going to end as George Broussard?

Also heres a better link

>http://www.reuters.com/article/us-facebook-lawsuit-idUSKBN1622S4

>>3826389
jesus christ james is so annoyingly bad

what to play

>>3826435
Dude, come on. It's TOTALLY retro!

Gamers have been putting anvils on their dicks and hammering them since the medieval times!

>>3826389

visit /ecg/ theres a faggot theres a /v/fag saying that we will defend brutal doom and mark
>>3826512

Songs you associate with DOOM because of reasons. Every time I hear this song I think of this video.

https://youtu.be/N5hWHOt7v8U

>>3826389

man, James is really out of his element on PC, hes even playing like he doesnt have mouselook on

>>3826286
Man, what's Ednerd up to now? I haven't seen any posts from him in a while.

>>3826298
If you added a tic of pause as the barrel is all the way back, I think it'd look more natural, like a recoiling barrel would, and look less lewd.

>>3826570
Maybe he finally gave up after realizing his code is terrible.

>>3826298
What mod is this for?

>>3826601
>>3826585
>>3826572
>>3826570
>>3826560
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>>3826541
>>3826531
>>3826527
>>3826510
>>3826508
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>>3826251
doom babbies
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>>3826150
doom cucks
>>3826119
>>3826117
>>3826106
doom cuck gods

>>3826662
autismo

>>3826669
doom cuckie

>>3826662

Reported the autism

have fun being perma banned GAF/v/irgin

>>3826675
>>3826662
Lord Autisimus.

>>3826662
Good luck with that appeal mate

>>3826694
>>3826692
>>3826690
no argument

>>3826705
>implying you have one yourself
lol.........................

>>3826713
not a argument.

>>3826662
Advanced shitposting

its good to see that mike mattei decided to shitpost here on /vr/ to make merchandising of that shit that he and James the fag calls JMM

so, how long until the janitor decides to clean it up and ban this faggot?

>>3826761
Wrong thread, man.

are there any jokewads that reference John Romero working at a gas station

Last year I created the Spellcross Custom Monster pack, bringing 35 of my favourite enemies into DOOM with some unique gameplay features. And afterwards, made them available to be used with OBLIGE maps.

I've completed the final version for both OBLIGE random generator and the Arena for testing/trying the monsters out. I will also be quitting DOOM projects, as I want to create things elsewhere. I want to thank everyone for their help with the project, and last reviews would be great to hear:

Spellcross Arena available here: https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=49873
Spellcross OBLIGE Custom Monsters available here: https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=53675

James Rolfe and Motherfucker played that which shall not be named here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVtDsQ5L_oc

>>3826804
that was just said already now but thanks

>>3826810
I have a feeling the thread is under attack from a very strange autist.

>>3826832

Nope, its Mike making his weekly floods to grab views

just ignore it

>>3826801
No, but Highway 2 Hell should.

>>3826804

Watching James trying to play doom is always a harrowing experience.

I want one

>>3826868

Good luck, they ran out of stock, and from the looks of it, it might turn into a collectors item

I fucking hate the Smooth Doom shotgun pump animation, for me it damn near ruins any mod that uses it. There's somehow even less momentum than the 4 sprite original.

You can't just linearly interpolate the motion of the pre-existing frames, you have to put some easing on it. There's no momentum, there's no resistance to the pump, it's just this weird hypersmooth and unrealistic movement switching between keyframes.

>>3826874
FREE NOT-HISSY

>>3826879
per kristian made those frames.

>>3826803
alright, thanks for the stuff and have fun on your new projects

I need some level ideas- anyone got any?

>>3826985
a map set in a black void where crumbled wooden buildings connect to each other

>>3826985

A haunted house.

>>3826985
A church that secretly holds an opening to Hell.

>>3826985
Do unto where I failed upon my H2H Map.

A UAC research facility/anomaly of sorts very loosely based off of E1M8 wherein Hell is already starting to reclaim what the UAC took as you arrive; The facility is dedicated to researching and reverse-engineering hell's bullshit (flesh growths, non-elucydian geometry, antigravity, general logic-and-laws-of-physics denying sort, the various spheres and interesting decorations/things) but there are small pockets of UAC resistance barely clinging on. There are void segments; and the possibility of seeing a cyberdemon manufacturing facility. You are teased throughout the map on screens of the Icon of Sin, which is done in Gloominarch style.

>>3827005
>Do unto where I failed upon my H2H Map.
your map idea sounds really ambitious, possibly too ambitious unless you're already a highly experienced mapper -- (may i ask, are you?)

>>3826868
i prefer the hand-made ones seen here and elsewhere -- mass-production has no soul

>>3827005
>>3827000
>>3826997
>>3826996


Thanks for the quick responses and good inspiration!

Tossing up in my mind whether to do something like this as an option to make fear more obvious. Also I might have overdone the fear-on-death that various enemies give when I converted shit to ACS.

>>3827010
You tell me. It's freakin' S'Arais the potato-dropper

The baseline map, prior to some random anon's attempts to salvage it (guessing floatrand?) can be found at https://www.mediafire.com/?84ryewcwph61o5o

Randomanon's attempts to fix my shit; plus my post-fix additions is at: https://www.dropbox.com/s/3aqf886mab96wxi/e1m8.wad?dl=0

>>3827032
I like the purple particle smoke; but it should be a bit more obvious though. Keep the purple particles; but maybe change them to something like transparent SPFACEs or the odd gas-souls spewed out of the Demon Rifle/Soulstorm Rifle when it's reloaded.

>>3827049
Hmm, yeah, I'll try something like that.

>>3827032
do demons get scared tho? I always figured they were fairly mindless. Because they have a hirearchy and imps wont hesitate to toss some tiny fireballs at a hulking baron even tho its a guarantee death.

>>3827080
Only demons get scared, the humans don't because they're lobotomized and the higher-tier demons are immune because they're just too big.

Also it's gameplay first justification after. I assure you there are good reasons for who gets scared and how much it takes.

>>3827094
>gameplay first justification after
Words to live by.
Also, famous last words

Can someone post a comparison between the Brutal Doom Rifle and the Brutal Doom MP40?
Pros & Cons style please

>>3827127
>Brutal Doom Rifle
Pro's: Good for sniping enemies from afar
Cons: You need to play brutal doom to use it

>MP40
Pros: Good for clearing rooms fast high dps
Cons: You have to play brutal doom to use it.

What are some funny or at least attempting to be funny wads?

>>3827132
Mandril Ass Project
It only gets worse

>>3827131
>the cons
oh you

>>3827132
Doom: The Parody
Community is Falling trilogy
Extreme Weapons
TurboCharged Arcade

>>3827148
>>3827136
Deathzor online

>>3826437
>>3826383

so, how low did carmack went to trigger zenimax this hard?

>>3827132
Archie.

>tfw too intelligent to mod for anything other than 3dge

>>3827132
MathTest

>>3827184
name them and why I would want to migrate to it over Gorf Zurhl doom

>>3826852
>map starts on a road in the middle of a desert, gas station on the side
>go inside for ammo and shit
>john romero head sitting behind a service counter

>>3827198
Could be a nice intermission map or end-of-demo map

>>3827223
Or titlemap

Here, some fake BtSX news: https://www.doomworld.com/vb/post/1721926

>>3827242
noice
----------

After lots of work and even more procrastination, BTSX E1 is finally out of its severely overextended beta period, and 1.0 is in /incoming!

A shortlist of the most substantial updates:
• New MAP31: Optical Hopscotch by Skillsaw! (The Hard Way has been moved to MAP32)
• Explosive new final area added to MAP17: Navigating Flood Regions (also I overhauled its midi to be good instead of bad)
• New final area added to MAP18: Cyclone Utilities (Remember Your Birthday)
• Various gameplay tuning given to many levels, including MAP06: Mix Up The Satellite
• Probably a bunch of other things I'm forgetting at the moment :)

>>3827242

>>3827350
Those cracked concrete textures are dope.

>>3827335
nice
the new final doomer weapon pack coming out gives a good excuse for playing through it again

>>3826389
>freedoom

>>3826207
make it not centered

>>3827132
Anarchy at Briggs

Never noticed this before, what does it mean?

>>3826207
>>3827393
>make it not centered
mix and match

>>3827181
Archie was shit though. Some pretty visuals but the gameplay was the worst and the jokes were autism-tier.

>>3826601
Just a little NES Metroid inspired thing I want to do.

>>3827393
>>3827403
I don't have the resources to make an angled old arm cannon

So, I'm messing around in the GZDoom options and I found that Doom originally had the monsters possess infinite height.
Why was this? Supposedly explosions have the same trait.

>>3827424
thanks doc.

>>3827412
>NES Metroid inspired thing
Neato.

>>3827445
Sarais/Ilya collab when

>>3827467
what is the story with ilya?

>>3827442

Techy limits and whatnot.
In fact, doom2 map30 relies on explosions having infinite height. It's what lets you kill Romero.

>>3827474
The context here is that he posted >>3827424 in the Doomworld pictures thread and it reminded me of that floor demon with the "all around me are familiar faces" caption that's been posted here a few times.

>>3827398
Maximum Riffage?

>HDoom Update When
>Zombies in HDoom when
>Archvile, Spider Mastermind, Nazis in HDoom when

>>3827474
The fuck story is there to say?
>put out a lot of single level wads
>tries to join a fuckton of community projects
>tries to lead his own project
>all of these fail
>claims people are stealing his maps by making fun of him and re-doing them so they're not as shit
>tries to hijack another project releasing his own maps, redone by other people (way better), and then re-packaged as his own community WAD
>that fails too
>complains that he's not more respected/well known
>complains he hasn't been GIVEN a cacoward yet
>practices horrible mapping conventions like a 64 unit slope that's only 1 unit long
>horrible mixing of textures, colors, and flats
>doesn't understand monster placement
>still keeps shitting out maps

It's sorta sad since, if he'd actually listen and stop trying to join every community project ever, then he might put out stuff to be known; otherwise, he's incredibly immature and thinks that putting out more maps (no matter the quality) means he should have more atttention. No joke, he said something along those exact lines about he doesn't understand why others get more attention but he doesn't because he puts out more maps.

>>3827485
Yes I think that's what it says. But what does it mean?

>>3827483
Oh yes, the floor rug potatodemon. I was going to put a secret involving the posts somewhere at one point because it made me laugh like an idiot and still does.

>>3827491
Yeah, I'm not collaborating with that.

Angled sprites are fucking hard, I cannot for the life of me find a good barrel tip for this thing

>>3824701
>>3826725

A lot of the people who still really love Doom don't love the original Doom with id Tech wads and all so much -- rather, we're Alien Vendetta / Scythe 2 / Hell Revealed / insert_really_good_wad_here fanboys.

>>3827506

>>3827442
what he said >>3827481. mostly height is not checked. actors are assumed to collide if their plane coordinates meet, regardless of height above or below. there are a few exceptions that can be considered special cases and have explicit code to handle them (e.g. bullets and missiles can pass over others' heads).

>>3827517
>still potatoposting

Is there just a simple wad that lets me play through Doom/Doom II as the Hexen crew or Corvus?

I can find all kinds of retarded mashups like Samsara and Reelism but not just a simple character swap.

>>3827530
I'm not actually a slav, I just like that picture.

>>3827534
Give the potato to latvia.
what? i'm saying it's annihilating my sides.

How is TheRailgunner being back news? Dude's a ripoff artist.

>>3827535
>i'm saying it's annihilating my sides.
I'm glad to hear it :3

>>3827539
Didn't he change his name to Blackfish and clean up his act a lot? Or is that a different Railgunner, I don't know.

>>3827541
why the catface?

>>3827501
why not? it's right up your alley :^)

>>3827532
Not that I'm aware of. Adding the weapons should be easy enough though unless you desperately want the character sprite to change too.

>>3827539
>>3827543
Blackfish has been around much longer than Railgunner.

>>3827547
Explain. Two negatives don't make for good maps.

>tfw 3 midterms Wednesday so you cant play doom

>>3827181
I don't get this dank meme in your pixel.

Re: The Infinity Jam thing

/r/ing Kegan, Terminus, Yholl, Marty, Weasel, and other gameplay modders here to make something.
It's only two weeks.

>>3827575

>>3827575
[temptation intensifies]

>>3827506

I recognize that barrel!

>>3827575
>weasel
>here
I mean maybe Kegan can do it.

>>3827539
dude made kickass mods, wat u talking about?

>>3827575

Well now.
This just got extremely interesting.

>>3827487
Forget that, HQuake when?

>>3827487
>HDoom is going to replace zombies with armoured Imps according to the blog
Why though? Possessed female soldiers would be more interesting than more Imps.

>>3827579
I like the lameduke barrel, it just needs a tip

>>3827575
I mean I guess I could submit this NESTroid thing as one? Maybe? I'm really wary though because this is from the same group of nimrods who decided making a politcally charged gamejam was a good idea, and this whole description of the jam itself kinda annoys me:

"From the ashes of the Resist Jam rises an even greater meme. INFINITY JAM!
Participate in this jam if you like:

1. Fun games
2. Memes
3. Free speech"

Plus I'm technically cheating because I'm working on this thing right now.

>>3827586
What's wrong? Don't you like fun games, anon?

>>3827586
do fun games annoy you?

>>3827586
>I'm really wary though because this is from the same group of nimrods who decided making a politcally charged gamejam was a good idea
I don't believe so, this is a group of different folks.

>>3827589
>>3827590
I meant the meme thing

>>3827592
Okay yeah but the three guys who started it. "Numbat Byte, sidorakh, praisekek"

The whole thing just feels like it's gonna be a big honeypot for stupid shit.

>>3827585
First the redesigned artwork, now this?

>>3827594
so make something different and stand out?

>>3827594
So make smart shit?

>>3827594
>Okay yeah but the three guys who started it. "Numbat Byte, sidorakh, praisekek"
Is there drama about them I'm missing? Do you know them?

>>3827517
I actually can't get into Quake. The atmosphere is great but the levels are so drab and dull that I only can play it for short bursts. All the guns feel weak as hell too.

Doom is better in my opinion, but I play it with WASD and mouselook, which isn't how it was meant to be played and the game is easier for it. But damn its satisfying to tear rooms full of demons apart with a shotgun.

>>3827596
>>3827597
I might let Term just do this, he's already got plans and shit.

>>3827598
Anyone who uses the phrase praisekek as an online handle is probably a dumbass.

>goes to /r/Doom
>watches the autistic praise on JMM video about marks mod

>>3827602
>Anyone who uses the phrase praisekek as an online handle is probably a dumbass
Nigga chill out it's just a name.

Is there any chance of a DUMP 4?

>>3827586
>>3827594
Just go for something like MGS2. It's what I'd do, at least.

>>3827595
At least the Mancubus and the Revenant concept art look nice. I can't wait until its finished, I might even play through Doom II again then.

What maps in Arcane Dimensions have runes? I think I can find them but I dont want to complete a map and miss it because i didnt know it was there
Thanks

So here's the fear aura but with little faces or something. Personally I'm not keen on the look but I'm wondering what other people think.

>>3827605
I still can't shake the feeling that something seems off about this jam.

>>3827608
I'm too much of a dumbass to be clever like that.

>>3827602
I thought you were Term

Just do it nerdlinger, we use kek unironically everywhere around here

>>3826146
S-Sauce
>>3826189
The time has come, and so have I

>>3827614
If he were Term he'd be shilling about 100 times as hard.

>>3827601
>All the guns feel weak as hell too.

>this again

>>3827619

>>3827613
>>3827602
in times like this it's good to take advice from the only good work egoraptor has ever done
JUST DO IT MOTHERFUCKER

>>3827595
The newly designed guns are better than the water pistols the mod originally used, and hopefully the guy will change his mind on the lack of zombies. Leaving out a single enemy type would just be weird.

>>3827606
Highway to Hell is pretty much DUMP 4.

>>3827620
But they do. Even the weakest enemies take several shotgun blasts to kill. It makes sense for something huge like a Shambler to take tons of damage, but standard guns are bullet sponges too.

>>3826106
No one answered me last thread.
Does any one have a download link for all 4chan wads? A ton of links in the pastebin are broken.

>>3827612
Looks neat, might want to scale it up a bit though

>>3827626
gib link pls

>>3827604
Still better than YT comments in Brutal videos.

>>3827631
it's right there in the news post

you

double nigger

>>3827517
guess I'll throw a confession in too

I prefer the PSX TC to the original four iwads

>>3827601
Plus Quake was clearly unfinished. Only world 1 has a boss, then its nothing until Shub-Niggurath at the end.

Why are there no Zombies in HDoom to begin with?

>>3827584
When someone who can make decent female Quake Sexy Ranger/Berserker/Strogg/whateverthefuck models and rig them for animation.

Newer quake sourceports allow for MD2 and MD3 models which allow for skeletal and per-vertex animation, respectively. The latter can also be made with a higher polycount than what is normally seen, however the amount of faces/tris that can be placed into a single group is fairly limited. Also, only one material per mesh, so one would have to be really clever to do some detailing.

Hmm, I've got a few hours free before work. I'll see if I can crank something out.

>>3827637
At least the expansions introduced proper bosses.

>>3827634
>ends on Feb 28th

Fuck

>>3827631
Check the news for the 1st test build. 2nd test build should be coming out real soon after tomorrow's deadline
>>3827638
Devs are plebs.
>>3827641
I don't think it's end end. There might be yet another phase.

>>3827630
Problem is when it's scaled up it looks ridiculous. Eh, I'll figure something out. I think I'll allow a switch between particles and faces and nothing just in case.

>>3827641
it was said from the start that this is going to be much longer and slower than usual, so i don't expect that'll be the end end

>>3827575

Sure, two weeks will be a nice shift in gears for a bit. Like the IGMC, but not as srs.

>>3827602
>>3827594
>>3827586

Race you there.

>>3827517
Its probably a popular opinion here, but Doom II does so much wrong it isn't funny. The levels are confusing, the new enemies range from a nuisance to really annoying, and there's only one new weapon.

I also thought Quake II was miles better than the original. I don't understand why people said the campaign was more boring than the original. The original was mostly stuff running into your face and Ogres lobbing grenades everywhere.

>>3827653
>rapid fire rocket launcher
The demons don't even know what'll hit them.

>>3827648
Zombie girls are for gays.

>>3827660
If you're a girl, then yes.

>>3827650
I figured it would. I don't know what you could do. Switch for now would be fine.

>>3827660
yeah well i bet you kiss girls, faggot

>>3827656
TRESSPASSAH!

>>3827653
So this is done with a locked camera which follows a player and a thin invisible hallway right? Very neat effect.

You should have done this for NiY

>>3827639
>Hmm, I've got a few hours free before work. I'll see if I can crank something out.
May the Elder Gods bless you, anon!

>>3827672

That's correct, you're very perceptive.
There's also the fact that the player has a forward/backwards movement of 0.0 and is actually facing only one direction the whole time, using the strafe left/right keys to go, well, left and right.
It's a very simple little hack, but it works quite well.

I should have.

>>3827682
Huh, I thought it'd be more of a ACS-based translation kind of deal instead of that, but I suppose that version means less key remapping. Pretty cool either way.

>>3827650
they should leave a trail of pasta when fleeing.

>>3827667
boop
>>3827691
maybe as a joke easter egg

>>3827639
>I'll see if I can crank something out.
This was a mistake.

>>3827692
Better gore than Sgt. Mark!

>>3827695
I can't really take credit for it because it's mostly from Smooth Doom. I tweaked a few things but it's still 95% their code.
Thanks though.

>>3827701
You're welcome.

>>3827687

This is surprisingly ACS-light, the majority of the scripts being controlling the camera and its sway.
There's also a little bit of friction manipulation, but for the most part it's mostly just plain ol' Doom physics at work.

Of the people I've sent it to for initial testing, it actually works surprisingly well, especially compared to things like Pogostick.
Most of the problems have been with the (surprise!) level design.

>>3827694

I'd tap that.

>>3827706
Yeah I noticed the extra friction. For level design, maybe use teleporters to access the further depths of the level as a trick to make them more interesting? Unless you mean technical issues.

>>3827715

Yeah, teleporters would work. One thing I would REALLY LIKE is to have the level take a turn into the foreground/background and the player/camera can turn along to go with it, but I suspect that'll take a little more work.

I'll be spending the next several days studying some of the classic shooty-bang platformer games like Contra, Metal Slug, Biomenace, and Mega Man, and some of the better indie takes like RosenKreuzStilette and Noitu Love 2. Hopefully I can pick up some level ideas from that.

>>3827731
Yeah you'd need some real scripting for that one but it would be damned cool.

>>3827731
>Noitu Love 2
ma nigga

>try out most recent version of The Trooper
>new lost soul variant that is seemingly always aggro'd, fires rapid fire energy shots that are 100% accurate that deal hefty damage, and teleport randomly behind you
>coupled with the fact pain elementals can just spit them out willy nilly
why

>>3827612
i think it looks awesome

>>3826669
>>3826692
advanced ezenecas

ALL RIGHT SO

for everyone who participates in that infinity jam thing, let's lay all our cards on the table and see who's interested in what

what game/mod idea do you think would be cool/want to make?

>>3827804
Well it's in now, it'll be selectable in menu. I'm doing my best to ensure that anything non-gameplay critical can be adjusted to taste within reason.

>>3827812
I want to make a Wolfenstein 3D pixel-shooter, a dude wakes up in hell and finds a crowbar, beats up a demon with it, and then grabs a pistol and shotgun to escape the caverns of hell with.
Lots of blood and gore, a couple levels, nothing big.

>>3827812

I'm thinking of a sidescrolling platformer. I was making it as a hacking minigame for my main project, but it would fit this perfectly if I have a theme around it.
Run and gun, jump the floors and shoot the dudes.

>>3827812
I'm tempted to make a sort of retro Chex-Quest-inspired shoot-aliens-with-disappearance-lasers thing.

>>3827812
big mechs
lots of missiles
eurobeat
drifting
maybe have different mechs you could select, could be fun for PVP

>>3827812

i'm honestly tempted to make a walking simulator about a guy waking up in bed to find that everyone in the world has vanished

>>3827575
>>3827594
>Infinity
>praisekek
Let me guess, it's made by the dumbasses of 8/pol/ just to stick it to the SJW, right?

>>3827826
>big mechs
>eurobeat
You have my attention.

>>3827828
No.

>>3827828
no.

>>3827828
You have to go back.

>>3827828
No. Fuck off.

>>3827828
>being this triggered

>>3827829
i'm kind of tired as fuck so i read the post as "give ideas to those who participate" so... sorry

but, someone months ago made something involving that, it was pretty cool but didn't take off

>>3827843
Well, now you have to take responsibility, anon.

You're gonna do it, right?

>>3827628
The irony is that Shamblers aren't all that tough at all. If you've got a super nailgun you can kill them in literally four seconds of fire at any range and they're easily baited into using their swipe attack instead of lightning.

Quake's lowest enemies are still weak- Grunts take two shotgun blasts or a single super shotgun blast to kill, and directly comparing shotguns isn't fair as Quake starts you with the SG, no pistol- yet stronger than their Doom counterparts, but Quake's toughest enemies are way easier to kill than Doom's and IMO the game flows much better because of it, with more focus on clever enemy placement and level design instead of giving the player a big arena to circle-strafe a boss in for ten minutes.

Alternate explanation: Doom players are way too spoiled by their Super Shotgun and how it makes piece meal of literally everything in the game and makes most of your other weapons secondary.

>>3827828
8/v/, actually.
Who ends being the exact same thing in the end.

>>3827854

I don't think anyone will deny that the ssg is broken as all hell (heh).

Personally I prefer ultimate to 2 even counting mods because it's that much more balanced, even without the new enemies.

>>3827242
>>3827335
Holy shit. This is awesome news

>>3827694
>Q3A
Get that shit out of here, you can already do that in-game.

>>3827639
>The latter can also be made with a higher polycount than what is normally seen, however the amount of faces/tris that can be placed into a single group is fairly limited.
>ever going higher poly and higher detail than the default game
The newest Arcane Dimensions release did that with the Shambler and you know what? IT LOOKS LIKE FUCKING GARBAGE

>>3827854
well said. I agree with you completely, I felt that a lot of quake mods/expansions distracted from that super distilled essence of the base game and made it play worse by adding more crap on top.

>>3827873
>IT LOOKS LIKE FUCKING GARBAGE
It really doesn't. It just doesn't look how you want it to.

>>3827610
The four maps made by sock and mfx in the pre-1.5 hub- Crucial Error, Swampy Bogbottom, Firetop Mountain and Obsessive Brick Disorder.

>>3827876
I disagree but I don't think I'll be able to sway your opinion.

>>3827692
For a less intrusive view, would it be possible to have an option of just tinting them purple?

>>3827891
I'll look into it, not sure if that's easy to do with ACS but if it is I'll do it (I just don't wanna do open heart decorate surgery again). If not I might try for a different third mode, but yeah I can probably get another in there that's even less intrusive.

>>3827491
To be fair, he's better at mapping than he used to be.

>>3827242
>>3827335
>>3827350
>its now split into two wads like episode 2

Heh. Must've added a lot more textures.

>>3827883
>>3827876
Doesn't evoke the same yeti feel, so yes, garbage.

>>3827910
Also, it's yellow. Why is it yellow? It looks like a sack of bananas or some other yellow fruit trying to split at the seams.

>>3827912
it's yellow there because of the lighting

>>3827242
linking to >>3826107

>>3827914
No, the bright yellow bulges on its torso and upper legs.

That map doesn't have colored lighting, IIRC.

>>3827912
>>3827914
No, it's part of the awful texture.

It looks more tan with bukkake on it rather than white with fur.

>>3827242
Looking into slade, apparently the palette is slightly different. And I very much mean slightly, because I can only notice 3 colors being changed out of 256.

>>3827854
Adding to this, you're supposed to use the grenade/rocket launcher a lot more. The grenade launcher is usually obtained fairly early and ammo is quite abundant. Rockets are your Super Shotgun this time, so to speak.

Also, unlike Doom you have instant weapon switching, which can work wonders if you master it properly. I actually had an idea for a Quake mod that exploited this mechanic for maximum CUHRAZEE, but I don't think I'd be able to do such level of modding without GZ style levels of user friendly tools.

>>3826106
What are your thoughts on Pharaoh?

Personally, it's one of my favorite official DOOM maps, largely due to its amazing atmosphere and epic scope. What fan made WAD can I play that have maps with a similar feeling?

>>3827854
I feel comparing Shamblers to Cyberdemons and Spider Masterminds is unfair, they're more like Baron/Arch-vile tier. Something like Armagon or the DoE bosses would be a much better comparison to the Doom bosses.

>>3827891
Something like this but brighter should be good

Also why the fuck is OBS stuttering when first initializing a record? God damnit free software.

>>3827938
>The grenade launcher is usually obtained fairly early and ammo is quite abundant.
Don't forget Ogres, which are found everywhere and give two rockets upon death- and also take two rockets to kill so if your aim is good they're either a zero-sum enemy or free rockets to use on other stuff if you're ballsy enough to delve in with your shotgun and not get chainsawed, which is often easier than it sounds because they're usually surrounded by other enemies and their saw comes out a lot faster than a Shambler's swipe.

> I don't think I'd be able to do such level of modding without GZ style levels of user friendly tools.
Plus side for user friendliness: QuakeC was created so people could easily mod stuff from the start.
Minus side for user friendliness: It's still actual programming.

>>3827952
The Shambler isn't being compared to a Cyberdemon, that's why it doesn't line up at the same spot in the graph (it falls just behind the Baron if you can read fucking English). Shamblers are the toughest enemy you'll encounter in the base game, as Shub-Niggurath must be telefragged and Chthon requires you to use the electro-traps.

>>3827971
>Shub-Niggurath must be telefragged and Chthon requires you to use the electro-traps
To be fair though, Quake was shipped without any straight-up bosses that aren't puzzles. If you compare the Shambler to the Archvile (which I believe has the next highest HP after the boss monsters) it's not as huge of a gap.

>>3827976
The two definitely take similar spots- not quite similar health but ~68 Chaingun shots to kill an Archvile or 68 SNG rounds [34 shots] to kill a Shambler, similar lightning attacks, and a unique characteristic compared to other monsters (Arch's resurrection, Shambler's explosive resistance). They're still not directly compared because in Quake, there is nothing you encounter more durable than a Shambler that you can still kill with ordinary weapons instead of the environment, while everything in Doom that isn't an Icon of Sin can still be, and should be, killed with your own guns no matter how strong they are.

>>3827992
I attribute that to D2's idiotic use of boss monsters more than the roster itself.

How detailed is too detailed when talking about brushwork in a Quake map?

I think the Tint option looks alright now. Also apparently it's fast enough that it's not lagging on a map with a lot of monsters.

>>3826508
Do you have everything? If so, may I partake?

>ancient aliens map18

>>3827154

All Carmack did was to leave them to pursue his life dream* with the other company that is directly competing with them and is way, wayyy richer than them.

That's it, that's all it had to take, and by god almighty they are pissed off.

* - Read Masters of Doom anytime, he's been looking forward to get involved in something like this since he was a mere child.

>>3827938
>ranger wip.jpg

> A 1.20517157728208 Gbps DDoS attack was detected on 45.58.113.226 at 2/27/2017 6:23:08 PM. Any attacks exceeding the protection on your account will automatically cause the target IP to be null routed. Please contact support at support.reliablesite.net with any questions.

Fucking christ.

>>3828106
What? Context?

Alright, so I need to performance test this fear mod, what's a map that is non-slaughter but has an area with huge swarms of enemies? I did some testing on sunder and all the group fear reduction signalling basically fucking stops the game if you shoot a RL into a group of ~100 imps, so I just want to see how it performs in a less deliberately packed environment before I start to optimize it.

>>3828010
>>3827954
>>3827692
Our methods of VIOLENCE grow more advanced
Now, we have mastered
PSYCHOLOGICAL VIOLENCE
we taught demons how to fear

>>3828123
We've also taught them how to melt processors :^)

>>3827996
Doom 2's usage of its boss monsters is more the symptom of the fact that at the end of the day, the doom 1 bosses were really nothing more than taller enemies with high health.

>>3827950
TNT has my favourite secret levels out of the iwads.

>>3828106
>>3828113

Googling the IP brings the Sentinel's Playground website.

So, is it being attacked or what?

>>3828123
Our electronic old men are FAR in advance of theirs; and their... technical inflexibility has allowed us to make progress in areas they refuse to consider.

>>3827575
>>3827586
>>3827594
Meh.

>>3827653
Now see if you could pull this off

>>3827912
I'd say it's less yellow.

I have beat Doom 1 and 2 and the 64 levels of Final Doom probably 6 or 7 time since they released. Once every 3 or so years I have done a run since 96. Including a coop run on some extra hard difficulty with Brutal Doom in 2014.

I literally can not name my favorite map. Not that I don't have a few I love, but I just can't remember the name of them lmao.

Anyone else similar situation?

>>3828198
What am I looking at?

Doom maps always seem much larger than they actually are. Was just going through some Doom 1 and 2 maps in doombuilder and they're quite small.

>>3828121
So none of you fags recommended me a wad so I just optimized it to work on Sunder :^). Thank fuck I payed attention in math class and can basically just stagger the effect of the group recovery, or else I'd be cooking a steak on my PC right now.

>>3828215
Sonic Robo Blast 2

Also known as "GODDAMN DOOM ENGINE SCORCERY!"

Also, why the fuck does this guy have xeno pinups in his map as textures? https://www.doomworld.com/vb/wads-mods/93108-nostromo-my-very-first-map-yay/

>>3828210
that looks pretty tan to me, anon

>>3828234
>32mb
gettin this wad for sure. I bet it's loaded with insect like tits.

>>3828238
Has more of the yellow splotches other anon was complaining about, though.

>>3828210
I see lots of gold/orange but very little color I would say is yellow.

>>3827350
Good ol BTSX reminding me of why I love it when mapsets use textures for detailing. Hopefully the final version, or at least an update, of Episode 2 is out soon.

>>3828246
You already won the bet.

I expected a neat doom map; what I did not expect was giger tits.

>>3828234
My favorite thing done in SRB2 is "Not Super Mario 3D World"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k4E77qUXZAE

>>3828234
I love Doom engine sorcery.

Just as much as I love what people did to Quakes engine (cough)GoldSrc(cough)

>>3828234
>>3828246
>32mb

This is an edited copy of the entire Doom 2 IWAD, minus MAP01. WHOOPS

>>3828263
YEah, I checked. THat's what it is

>>3827017
I want to make one ! I've made a Metroid already, do you know some good guide for a Cacodaemon ?

>>3828185

Do you just have a hateboner for that word or something?

>>3828294
You can ascertain how young someone is by how many times they use the word "kek"

>>3828261
>>3828234
Well, it is build on its own source port that stemmed from Legacy - so they can modify it however they want and add whatever features they need without worrying about maintaining backward compatibility to old wads.

>>3828297
Ok, we get it, you're a big boy now. Yeah that topic is retarded but there's no need to shitpost about it here.

>>3828297
Damn you must be old as fuck.

Me on the other hand, kekekekekek

>>3828297
Kek kek kek

>>3828297
Kek

>>3828297
What are you? Some kind of kek?

>Proving my point

>>3828297
Thankfully, I have long stopped giving a shit about people guessing how young I am.
If anything, many times I'm actually rather flattered that they think I'm so young.

In short? Top kek.

>Feb 28th

Alright Term, what's happening next with Highway to Hell?

>>3828309
yes, your point is that you just have a hate for a word that is used on 4chan nearly a hundred times a day

it's like hating the word "faggot"

>>3828315
I'm pretty sure it's still the 27th in burgerland.

>>3828297
kek has been around a lot longer than you think.

>>3828312
Same here lol. I just had a discussion and was called troll/child/fanboy more than a few times. Because I asked why we are not comparing Ryzen to 7700k or more wide ranging processors than we are.

I am all for Ryzen and AMD and I currently have an Intel 5960x in one build and a 9590 in another (soon to be replaced with Ryzen). But seriously, a simple observation shouldn't result in autistic replies of CHILD FANBOI!

>>3828315
>Highway to Hell
That's a TerminusEst13™ production? What doesn't that guy do.

>>3828324
Finish Cyberrunner
Control his ego

>>3828318
Most people don't even think it is as old as it is. I think it started in wow back when I first played.

>>3828324
I thought it was a kinsie.

Doesn't matter regardless; Term doesn't like me.

>>3828324
Get around to finishing his projects

>>3828326
What ego? Oh, you're the guy upset with him for some stupid reason.

>>3828315

People submit their stuff to me and I compile it together into a single build. Nothing that out of the ordinary.

>>3828261
>top down is out

aw shit I was waiting for this

>>3828340
I 100% what they have in so far, it was an absolute blast.

>>3828335
the bait was more believable when he was crying about how dreadnought was unfinished, desu

>>3828343
is it by any chance a 3D blast

>>3828343
>Puns
STOP IT.

>>3828345
Dreadnought is unfinished though.
Maps when you lazy fuck? Sidescrolling metroid TC when??????:^)

>Try Brutal Doom 64
>Get to dark Citadel
>"What the fuck there isn't any crying sounds in this level"
>Figure it's probably a new addition to make the level spookier
>Look up
>Oh god
>Poor Doom bros. are crying without limbs hanging from the ceiling
>Can't help them
>Can only put them out of their misery
>mfw the crying stops

>>3828350
I want all the beams from Metroid Prime 2 and Zero Suit Samus and a mapset and a Mother Brain bossfight and Super-Ridley and

Why doesn't Kegan ever get this shit?

>>3828363
Because Kegan's a combine-cat nerd.

>>3828363
he hasn't gotten X+1 players for his mod yet, where X is a completely arbitrary number

>>3828363
Kegan doesn't have two Cacowards.

>>3828363
Picking on Kegan's obvious issues isn't as fun as completely making things up, apparently.

>>3828363
Kegan never pissed off the Brutal Doom nerds.

>>3828369
That's something specifically reserved for conductors of the jelly train!

>>3828363
because kegan hasn't annoyed the brutal doom players sufficiently enough, i assume.

>>3828369
He is, however, the sole recipient of the GOLDEN BONER, which is much rarer than a Cacoward and thus much more valuable.

>>3828365
>>3828368
>>3828369
>>3828370
>>3828373
>>3828375
I'm really hoping none of you took >>3828350 seriously, because I was fucking joking. I thought the :^) made it clear.

>>3828380
I'm >>3828363
I was playing along with the joke and then asking a tangentially-related question.

>>3828380
i didn't

>>3828373
Yo, cuck, what is wrong with Brutal Doom?

>>3828380
I didn't, I was responding to >>3828363

>>3828383
>>3828383
>>3828386
Alright good, it's hard to tell.

>>3828369
Does he have a Golden Boner? Worth more imo. Semi-obscure threads about a 20 year old game on comparably slow boards of a Taiwanese rice painting appreciation forum are hard to come by. Cacowards are a diamond dozen.

>>3828393
should read: Awards given out on a semi-obscure thread for a 20 year old game on a comparably slow board of a Taiwanese rice painting appreciation forum are hard to come by.

whoops.

>>3828393
>>3828396
agreed
just look at skillsaw, who has, like
eight

>>3828402
Basically you have a higher chance to get one if you're a big enough name in the community. It's a pattern, and it sucks. There should really be a separate awards show for "Out of nowhere" mods and stuff.

>>3828405
>Basically you have a higher chance to get one if you're a big enough name in the community.

There's actually a reason for this! It just comes down to marketing.

See, making mods isn't too far from developing games, in that half of the work is making it and then the other half is marketing it afterwards. Not just making it, but also convincing people to play it. Whether they like it or hate it, it doesn't really matter, what matters is that they downloaded and played it.

When Joe Doomer releases a mod, there's a risk attached to it. You know nothing about this guy, and you have a limited amount of time in the day. Why should you play Joe Doomer's mod? He can talk about how it's 32 speedmapped limit-removing levels, but you know nothing about his previous work. It might be shit.
On the same day, however, there's been a release by Xaser! Now Xaser, there's a big guy for all of us. He's got a questionable release schedule but nearly everything he puts out is wonderful. And because you have a limited amount of time in the day, you pick up Xaser's release over Joe Doomer's.

Now, that's just one spectator. But it's a likely scenario for a massive group as well. Even if you get roughly a hundred people from the community, a lot of people would be interested in trying something by Xaser over Joe Doomer. And because of this, Xaser's map gets played more, enjoyed more, and is more likely to become an awardee.
Joe Doomer, on the other hand, has to try harder with marketing and work to convince people that his wad is good.

>>3828405
>There should really be a separate awards show for "Out of nowhere" mods and stuff
Truth, I hate having to go way out of my way to find lesser known cool wads like Doomzone and pic related.
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=30206&sid=435e2a129ff47e6ef9625f196c19122a

My problem with Cacowards is that it sounds like its meant to be like an award ceremony for the years top voted wads. But all it really is, is just a couple of dudes listing their favorite wads of the year. The nomination threads only serve as bringing up the existence of new wads to the dudes, so they will get around to playing them.

>>3828380
I think you shouldn't use emotes on 4chan is all.

>>3828418
>>3828405

What this comes down to, ultimately, is branding.
Xaser is a name associated with something you know, and thus neurologically you're more likely to go to it. It's safe and familiar. The brain likes safe and familiar. Whether or not you actually like the mod or not, you're more likely to download it--even if just to shit on it.
How many people here who downloaded Blade of Agony actually liked it? If you're the ones who knew you wouldn't like it but downloaded it anyway, you know exactly what I'm talking about.

Joe Doomer, on the other hand, is not a brand. He's new and different. And the brain naturally tends to shy away from trying new things, because we want things to be safe and comfortable. Even if it's just as small as "trying a new map".

>>3828402
>>3828405
To be fair, Skillsaw did produce some quality winners.

>tfw too intelligent to get a cacoaward

>>3828425
He did.

>>3828425
He does the "very pretty and A E S T H E T I C slaughtermap" style of mapset very well.

I tend to not like slaughtermaps.

>>3828420
Some people are seeking such a thing, you know. Most know this; but we don't exactly have a huge ceremony about it.

>>3828418
>>3828424
>marketing because of risk
>free product
I get what you're trying to say, but you're off base. It's because a) most people will suck up to anyone successful to curry favor with them and b) The judges are unconsciously biased towards their friends, and most of the most prolific modders know each other personally.

The only "marketing" you need to do is sucking the right dicks on ZDF/#zdoom.

>>3828405
>There should really be a separate awards show for "Out of nowhere" mods and stuff.
The problem is, how would you classify "out of nowhere"? Does a mod go somewhere if it exceeds 10000 downloads?

>>3828432
Why not have a "community choice" poll where everything from the nomination thread gets a hit

>>3828437
yeah, that's why memfis and 40oz are repeat winners despite nobody liking them

>>3828440
and presenting this year's winners:

brutal hell on earth
hdoom
brutal doom 64
brutal guncaster
project brutality
and ancient aliens

>>3828439
People who aren't IRC regulars and only made their accounts/went active within that year.
>>3828442
Because you still view someone you dislike more favorably than someone you don't know at all, by the nature of wanting to like people and not being a spiteful fuck.

>>3828431
His maps typically arent slaughtermaps, though.

>>3828440
Popular vote contests are a baaaaaaaaaad idea.

>>3828437
Why do you think Doomworld gives a single shit about ZDF/#zdoom?

>>3828445
>Because you still view someone you dislike more favorably than someone you don't know at all
Uh. No?

>>3828437
>The only "marketing" you need to do is sucking the right dicks on ZDF/#zdoom.
Shame that won't matter a single bit on Doomworld.

>>3828448
>>3828450
>crossposters don't exist
>>3828449
It's fucking provable that you do. There have been real actual studies done on it and you'll pick out those names more readily and give them more attention than those you don't know.

>>3828445
that is the most arbitrary criteria i have ever seen

are you all right, anon? do you feel like something you did was denied a cacoward?

>>3828454
>out of nowhere awards
>describe the criteria for being "out of nowhere"
>arbitrary
Nigga what?

>>3828452
>avoiding the argument

Please explain why you think Doomworld cares at all about someone's status on ZDF/#zdoom.

>>3828445
I, for one, would gladly volunteer for monitoring IRC and people's forum register dates to ensure any and all releases are properly obscure enough to quality.