/vr/ - Retro Games

=== CURRENT EVENTS ===

[Highway to Hell] Second phase of mapping has started! Ends on Feb 28th
>>/vr/thread/3757618#p3759223

[Til 4-1] QUMP is still going!
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Zlfb2U2VCeS70uS6Klc2ZEOC9KtnYyCyBXEmeetjh0c/edit

[Til 3-15] Dropbox will be dropping support of public folders in mid-March

=== NEWS ===

[2-18] Intermission E1M9 uploaded
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SrlFLXMRQLg

[2-17] Vinesauce Doom Mapping Contest 2016 winners finally announced; WADs released for download
https://vargskelethor.me/winners/
https://vargskelethor.me/winners/wads/

[2-16] Freedoom updated to v0.11
https://github.com/freedoom/freedoom/releases/tag/v0.11

[2-15] /doom/ news archive now available!
http://pastebin.com/PZDkqABT

[2-14] MetaDoom updated to 3.0
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=53010

[2-12] Circle of Demons update
http://www.moddb.com/mods/circles-of-demons/news/reworking-on-panels

[2-12] Quake Injector now uses HTTPS, mandatory update required
https://www.quaddicted.com/tools/quake_injector

[2-11] Chocolate Doom to use SDL 2.0 in 3.0 beta
https://www.chocolate-doom.org/wiki/index.php/V3.0_beta
https://github.com/chocolate-doom/chocolate-doom/blob/sdl2-branch/NEWS.md

[2-10] Modding Nu-Doom made possible
https://www.reddit.com/r/pcgaming/comments/5t1z8l/doomextract_updated_modding_is_possible_again_and/

[2-8] gdxBloodCM Progress Video #6
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzvLXWZlE3Y

[2-7] Two brothers are remaking id's mobile DoomRPG games into GZDoom
https://www.doomworld.com/vb/wads-mods/87871-wip-the-ids-rpg-series-coming-soon/

[2-5] A beta release of the Joy of Mapping 3 project is live
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=42&t=55034

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http://pastebin.com/PZDkqABT

=== PROTIP ===

If you would like to submit any news or your personal map or mod releases here, please reply/backlink to this post.

>>3809501
first for cubeguy

>>3809507
and i forgot image

>>3809427
Yes. Spawn a smoke effect before player and translate it to his movement. Was done before numerous times.

>>3809403
Always made me curious. Isn't there a way to render a superwide image without a distortion?

>>3809512
He looks so fucking old.

>>3809512

Eeeehhh.

I mean, I get it, but...why.

John Romero talks Adventure Games, with the Back Seat Designers podcast

https://youtu.be/zOzjVA552DQ

>>3809512
At first I thought it was mexican cartel pictures

Who /goldsource/ here?

>>>/vg/

>>3809554
Yeah because everyone like to be stuck on a board with underage fags. How new are you?

>in the near future
>source port of Blood was released about 2 years earlier
>you are now playing the Duke Nukem 3D TC for it

When will we be there?

>>3809578
>When will we be there?
In the near future, of course.

>>3809554

this is why i love /vr/' report button

>tfw making Quake 2 maps and tweet about it and they become my most popular tweets of all time

I had no idea this level of activity was achievable on twitter for Quake 2-mapping.

>>3809596
For Quake 2 maps of all things as well. Well ain't that good for you.

>>3809578
>you are now playing the Duke Nukem 3D TC for it
And every time it'll get mentioned some autist will start screaming that this TC is horrible and everybody who plays it is a retard.

>>3809601
Twitter has this idea to shit on everything I do by throttling it yet it did not include Quake 2 in that.

I can't wait for the throttling algorithm to update to return to being a nobody.

>>/vg/

*hides thread*

>>>/vg/

*hides thread*

>He can't filter

>>3809607
I don't use Twitter, what's throttling?

>>3809698
There's a theory on that a selection of one's Twitter followers may not be able to see some of their tweets even when others can clearly see them, based off how well they can spread a message because statistics and shit. So basically some social media fuckery.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dAAUD7jtFas

kevin tho

>>3809752

>>3809698
>>3809705
It's to control who gets to sway other's opinions. Still in its early phase but will become more prominent on other platforms as well. Facebook being the most obvious one where you have to pay to get more views on your posts.

>>3809480
It doesn't. Just a control sector.

>>3809705
>>3809760
That's fucking disgusting if true.
W-Was /pol/ (potentially) right again?

>>3809815
Just look up the evidence. People get shadowbanned all the time and it's usually people on the side that twitter's management disagrees with. There's a very good reason that the left is becoming increasingly unpopular.

>>3809286
you know we HAVE the source code right

>>3809821
>There's a very good reason that the left is becoming increasingly unpopular
And they keep doubling down, regardless of the fact that they're basically shooting themselves in the foot with a rocket launcher.
Oh well.

>>3809760
>>3809815
>>3809821
>>3809859
nobody here gives a shit, post about hot devil kill thx

>>3809879
Agreed.

Anyone made a list of vanilla-compat megawads?

But seriously; how do these fuckers even work? In udmf.

In hexen format it says something about player walk overs; but that's clearly not happening because there's no voodoos, only MCSectors

>scripting
It cannot be done!

Quake files link in the pastebin hangs at 0%.

Should I just torrent it?

>>3809879
calm down lefty

>>3809896
What effect are you looking for?

>>3809903
Polyobject use in general; be it sliding doors, spinning whatsits, or whatever other funky things.

>>3809909
I'mm figure it out and get back to you maybe

is there a megawad featuring Crash?

>>3809921
I assume Demon Eclipse could/would of been the first, had Eriance not abandoned it.

What's the most balanced difficulty for a first run through of Blood?

>>3809926
>could/would of

>>3809909
https://zdoom.org/wiki/PolyObjects Ok honestly I just followed this and everything worked perfectly. It's really not that hard, you essentially just make whatever you want in another sector then anchor it to a part of the map using 2 objects, then you can make it slide and rotate and shit.

>>3809901
pot and kettle

>map author makes water texture floor damaging without any visual indication that it actually damages you

jesus fucking christ..
hellbound is not a joke at all

>>3809980
Yeah I find it to be a bit much sometimes.

>>3809975
Just follow the Doom manual.

>If it looks fluid, beware!

HEHE

WHAT AN MESS

>>3809975
>mud floors
>-20% dmg

>>3809975
>Water does 20% damage
>Lava does 5% damage

Least favorite map of ancient aliens so far, found it very frustrating especially the room pictured.

>Finally finish it, load next map and see that it has 500+ monsters

...guess I'll continue this next week

>>3809975
>can't escape once fallen into damage dealing floor
>5% damage

>>3809938
>https://zdoom.org/wiki/PolyObjects
I'm going to stop you right there as there's the issue of it auto-assigning Polyobj 270 on every map and being unable to assign new ones or remove that tag on ones that don't exist.

>>3809980
>everyone speaks of hellbound
>no hellground
Damnit.

She don't fuckin' work captain. I'm givin' 'er all she's got and she don't fuckin' work.

If I wanted an outdated guide that didn't work then I'd always consult ZDoom wiki or anywhere but /vr/

>>3810042
One of the maps in the Highway to Hell alpha uses polyobjects for doors, I'd suggest looking how that anon did it and try reverse engineer it

>>3809980
It gets pretty rough at times. You'll notice a steep increase in monsters around the 20th level mark by the way.

Have you donated?

There's a raffle to win a brand new Plasma Rifle

is there anyway to convert a indexalpha sprite into a additive sprite?

>>3810026
Nigga just change the angle, it's not even hard.

>>3810045
You can stop fuckin' with me at ANY time bud.

>>3810052
but I can't play the accordeon. why would I be interested in one?

>>3810060
https://www.dropbox.com/s/wfzn549tzlcvwqv/just%20like%20make%20polyobject.wad

>>3810060
I mean this map, the front doors open sideways using polyobjects

>>3810060
>>3810063
Also I learned this in 10 minutes from the ZDoom wiki. It's really not that hard if you just read the guide and pay attention.

>>3810068
see: >>3810042
The guides are horribly outdated.

>>3810061
The NPRA has training courses for Chainguns, Shotguns and Pistols as well.

>>3810072
Then how come my version worked perfectly on the first try when I had no idea what to do before reading the guide? It's possible you just missed something. Polyobjects have existed since Hexen. Any guide that isn't 20 years old isn't outdated.

>>3810076
Likely because you have actual mapping expertise?

>>3810089
Making literally one map ever that wasn't even good isn't mapping expertise.

>>3810091
Post your map and we'll be the judge of that.

Either or; I had to do something different; but whatever. The thing that's currently interesting however is the fact that these little extensions have no bottom/top texture. Guide didn't seem to cover those either.

>>3810095
Most polyobjects don't have that kind of texture by default. Once again I'm not an expert, so I've got no idea how to make that kind of thing work. I've also already posted the map several times in several threads. It doesn't matter how good it is anyway, don't shit talk the guides when they're perfectly fine.

>>3810108
>"I've also already posted the map several times in several threads."
We're on an anonymous imageboard. How are we supposed to know which one's yours?

>>3810110
Are you just trying to start an argument? I'm not biting. You fucked up and it was your own fault, then you fixed it. Get over yourself.

>>3810115
>I'm trying to start an argument by asking which map is yours
what.

>>3810126
>talk mad shit to a guy trying to help you
>not picking a fight
Not even that guy. Work on your tone.

>>3809502
Oh by the way, I released Disjunction, and it got to /idgames.

https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom2/Ports/d-f/disjunct

So for the anon who wanted to proxy-trash it with 0 star votes, now your chance.
I kinda deserve it for map10.

why is this allowed

>>3809501
What jokewads are worth playing?
Finished wooo3 so far

>>3810149
Mock 2: Speed of Stupid.

>>3810138
Right...

>>3810149
/pol/.wad

>>3810142
Why wouldn't it be allowed? Who are you to tell him "no"?

>>3810151
>Anon was cyber-roxxeted for great justice.

>>3810149
Luducrium

>>3810149
Adventures of Square

>>3810149
Anarchy at Briggs is a must-play:
http://ionline.vectec.net/doom/briggs.zip

>>3810095
>>3810089
>>3810072
>>3810060
holy shit, dude, you fucked up

get over it

These fuckin stages making me want to dig up keen1 again

>>3810142
What wad?
>>3810149
it only gets worse & mandrill ass

>>3810169
Why are you still going, then? Who are you trying to convince?

>>3809502
Whats up /doom/ its finally here: 3.wad
http://www.mediafire.com/file/aovyen0c623tb4n/3.wad
tribue to the best band ever. You should know what that means.

PS fuck McMurty!

>>3810207
speed of doom

>>3810215
Why is this 108MB?

>>3810220
Dolphin porn?

>>3810224
>>3810215
This is a strange wad. I haven't even tried to run it yet, just looking at the wad directory. You have map lumps mixed amongst graphics and lump names with spaces in them. PNAMES and TEXTURE1 are tiny so I guess that means it requires *ZDoom.

96065416 748 VERTEXES
96066164 168 WIA00801
96066332 168 WIA00800
96066500 1230 MAPINFO
96067730 3768 SEGS
96071498 324 SSECTORS
96071822 8856 HELP1
96080678 168 WIA00802
96080846 2240 NODES
96083086 168 WIA00700
96083254 168 WIA00300

E1M7 and E1M8 are empty

113985775 0 E1M7
113985775 0 THINGS
113985775 0 LINEDEFS
113985775 0 SIDEDEFS
113985775 0 VERTEXES
113985775 0 SECTORS
113985775 0 E1M8
113985775 0 THINGS
113985775 0 LINEDEFS
113985775 0 SIDEDEFS
113985775 0 VERTEXES
113985775 0 SECTORS

>>3810236
>>3810232
There's nothing to it. It's just repeating "3" textures. Garbage.

Yeah I'm not even going to try to run this. It just looks totally dodgy. Good luck to anyone more brave than me.

>>3810161
That actually gave me a chuckle

>>3810161
Heh.

>>3810215
Doom: Rampage Edition 2, ladies and gentlemen.

I just downloaded GZDoom, unzipped it, started the exe. and it loaded up Doom 2. How did it do that without the Doom 2 .wad?

>>3810281
Do you have doom2.wad anywhere? Like via steam or something?

>>3810285
Oh I do have the gog version installed, that's probably it. Thanks.

>>3810281
It automatically detects Steam / GoG installs of DOOM.

>>3810006

Loved Ancient Aliens for how unique it was but towards the end I just wanted it over with.

>>3809502
What the fuck are the new freedoom weapon sprites and why do they look so bad

>>3810215
I never thought it would actually come out.

Would it be best to wait for ZScript to come out in a stable build before learning it? I don't have too much modding experience.

>>3810006
your supposed to shoot the archviles and revenats from the pathway to that area

>>3810343
>Sodaholic

>>3810370
It's been out in stable builds for a while now.

>>3809542
Thought that was Grezzo 2 from the thumbnail.

>>3810343
shrug. more incentive to find a better weapon as quickly as possible?

in general the new freedoom seems like an improvement to me. i did think the new C1M1 sticks out due to its unique texture set, they need more maps in that style to fit in i guess.

>>3810373
Ah, sounded like it wouldn't be in stable yet. Still though, is it worth it learning it now, or should I wait for it to be updated some more, and get more documentation, or is it pretty smooth sailing right now?

>>3810151
>Mock 2: Speed of Stupid.
my favorite part about that wad is all the purposefully misaligned textures

>>3810404
You might as well start now, like that you'll be ready when SBARINFO gets replaced (Let's face it, SBARINFO is shit).

>>3810396
Yeah the new maps and enemy sprites are good but all the weapons except for the plasma rifle and the fists look like a png of a guy holding a toy gun

>>3810343
>download it
>check new weapons
>they're literally tracing shit from eriguns.wad now
Why not just use ALL of eriguns.wad instead?

>>3810480
You are aware that Eriance willingly donated those sprites, right?

>>3810492
Then the point is actually strengthened. Why not just use eriguns.wad? Why even bother with the other shit that looks terrible when you have incredibly good looking alternatives? Why make shitty edits to sprites that look better without them?

The people making Freedoom are retarded.

>>3810182

Dopefish killed you? What wad is this?

>>3810497
>Why not just use eriguns.wad?
Because Sodaholic kept shilling his retarded weapon sprites

>>3810513
You know I always think to myself "I should contribute to open-source projects" but then I see shit like this.

>>3810503
I think it's one of d2twid's secret levels

>>3810497
You should post this as a new bug report on their github. Title: "please use eriguns.wad unmodified", contents "Why not just use eriguns.wad? Why even bother with the other shit that looks terrible when you have incredibly good looking alternatives? Why make bad edits to sprites that look better without them?"

...but edit out the swearing (I missed one)

>>3810513
The non-edited eriguns.wad sprites are really nice but i liked the old freedoom pistol better

>>3810538
>>3810542
I would but my github is actually liked to my IRL name, which could link it back here. If someone else wants to go for it though, they can be my guest. Someone needs to knock their stupid little sand castle down and give them some real perspective.

Doom&assorted mods seems to be the only game that interests me nowadays. Everything else i lose interest in after 90 minutes.
Anyone else have this feel?

>>3810549
That's normal anon. The mainstream cancer has killed anything actually good; and the few things that spring up inbetween the cracks gets shitposted into oblivion because nobody knows what the fuck they're talking about, and it's a meme to shit upon it like the bandwagon it is.

Tl;DR: normies killed gaming.

>>3810562
You have to go back.

>>3810565
He's not wrong.

>>3810568
Hard not to agree with yourself.

>>3810549

I mostly play indie games and small budget games, now.
Spoopy Japanese RPG Maker games are still a regular treat I like to play.

What if the JPCP BFG was something like this?

https://youtu.be/90JdsiUOY78

>>3810572
Wow, big man calling samefag. First week on 4chan buddy? I really wish they'd put IDs on this board so idiots like you would lose your only counter argument.

>>3810565
>i have to go back
No, I have to proceed forward.

I made map23 better. Replaces map01
https://www.dropbox.com/s/jvtxpyj3lxttlmo/boners%20of%20fun.wad?dl=0

>>3810586
t.

>>3810591
Let's just skip to the end where I post this and you stop posting entirely.

>>3810549
To be fair, Doom has literally unlimited content, not many games can claim the same

>>3810590
hah fuck nevermind i forgot to fix the doors and everything.

>>3810595
Isn't >>3810591 the same edgelord we grilled yesterday?

>>3810602
Fuck if I know. I'm just gonna stop replying to him. I'm in recovery from a terrible shitposting addiction.

>>3810597
rip

>>3810562
A pretty simpleton statement & opinion senpai.

>>3810562

This is pretty much why I stick exclusively to indieshit and modding stuff.

>>3810629
Same here, I can get my FPS fix from Doom or its mods, and if a suitable mod doesn't exist I can probably make one. For other genres there are similar games.

Come on guys, let's clean it up, for him.

He went to Hell for you sins.

>>3810648
You mean he went to hell to kill the physical incarnations of my sins so I could sin all I want right?

>>3810649
Anon, no.

Anon, you close that hentai folder right up.

>>3810648
Well then I better keep on sinning shouldn't I?
Let me just unzip my pants

>>3810649
>>3810692

STOP IT

>>3810708
Make me faggot. I'm going to jack off to mancubi all day AND THERE'S NOTHING YOU CAN DO ABOUT IT!

>>3810716
>Make me faggot.

Your wish is my command.

*Pooof!*

Now you're one!

>>3810721
>implying he wasn't already one

>>3810721
Anon, we're posting on 4chan.

Being a faggot is mutually understood.

>>3809934
Just play it on well done ya little shit

Some guy got Doom playable with his Porsche.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NRMpNA86e8Q

>>3810721
Nice try buddy. Here, have a complimentary soulsphere. I promise.

WE GOT 'EM ALL BONER!

>>3810764
So how much of this is real?

Why is every frontend for GZDoom such a giant piece of shit? I just want to be able to speed up the whole process of launching a mod+map. Fuck.

>>3810915
The Porsche is real.

>>3810930
I just don't even both with them and just do the tried and true "drag the wads onto a shortcut" method.

>>3810953
I've been doing that but the list of shit is getting unmanageable. I think I'll just make my own shitty frontend.

>>3810958
You don't know how it FEEEEELS:

>>3810958
I rename all my wads to their actual titles so I don't feel lost.

>>3810930
I've always thought to do a frontend that'd be similar to MAMEUI or QuickPlay but I'm unsure which language should do it in. And also general laziness too.

So apparently I can't record with that shit win10 recorder anymore thanks m$ and OBS maxes my toaster's CPU. So here's a screenshot of be trying not to die on SoD MAP08. Turns out this map was really good for testing how fear recovery works in groups. The huge imp swarms barely seem to react even when you blow up huge numbers of them but when you get them alone they run like little bitches.

>>3810972
>don't feel lost
I feel lost after starting a wad

>>3810969
>Filename

Are you me?

>>3810984
As a follow up, holy fucking shit arachnotrons + mastermind + open areas = run for your damned life because one fuckup means you gonna die.

>>3810764
BIG SURPRISE if it runs windows, it can run Doom.

>>3809975
>whether or not blood/slime damages you varies from map to map

>>3811010
PLUTONIAAAAAAAA

>>3810141
love the orange lighting on the first map, gr8 work

I think this is the most complete castlevania doom mod that hasn't been abandoned before atleast implementing the core features.

https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=51404

Combine it with a gothic theme map pack and you're good to go.

It is kind of sad to see most of these abandoned.
Especially the castlevania mod for heretic since heretic has enemies obviously more suited to castlevania than doom does but, hey I take what I can get.

>>3810994
That depends.

You wanna play some co-op and get some of this shit achkstuahlly done?

>>3811039
>Hall & Oates' "You Make My Dreams Come True" plays as the two anons start playing Doom Coop together and slowly but surely having their friendship blossom along the way no homo

>>3811042
Sounds good comrade.

>>3811027
Shame it suffers from the same problem as GMOTA currently does: Subweapons are so good that it makes the melee weapon useless.

What are some good mods for the PSX levels?
Something that can still be difficult, even with the easier IWAD levels.

Revenant music video in the vein of YTPMV when?
bonus points if you're replacing all the lyrics and notes in an already skeletal song

Any recommendations for a game play mod that wont drop frames with ridiculous amount of particles, but add challenging enemies and balanced weaponry? Hopefully some bosses.

I really loved the idea of legendary monsters in complex doom, but it wasnt executed very well, that and the particles made my computer slowdown.

>>3811093
Complex would be better if the legendaries were actually legendary and not retardedly overpowered piles of shit. Bullet hell is cool and all but come on.

>>3811093
Complex would be better if the legendaries were actually legendary and not retardedly overpowered piles of shit. Bullet hell is cool and all but come on.

Also, you probably know, but Durla.

>>3811098
They were bullet sponges to the extreme who one hit you with rapid fire BFG

>>3811103
>Durla
??? whats that?

>>3811106
>he doesn't know about DoomRL Arsenal
You poor soul. You've been force-fed that brutal doom garbage haven't you?

>>3811109
...maybe,

>>3809502
i have downloaded the Quake Injector and its says
"a java exeption has occured" what do i do?

>>3811093
DoomRL Arsenal?

'Balance' is a tricky thing to judge, but each class in the mod is great at something at least, so it's more a matter of quickly you can get some powerful equipment and zip through the map fine until you find a pack of Hungry or come across an enemy variant you've never seen before that fucks you up by virtue of surprise.

>>3811114
This. If nuID ever made a co-operative experience for Doom 2: Which hell on which earth?, i'd want it to be basically DoomRLA

>>3811027
There's this one too:
http://www.mediafire.com/download/s0p088sh3qhczca/CastleVania_Test_72.rar

https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=51873

>>3811134
>Straight up 2D->3D first person conversion

nope

I just downloaded the latest Hideous Destructor and the latest GZDoom dev build, and I keep getting a message about deprecated fire whenever a fireball hits something. All that I'm loading with is doom2.wad, hd.pk7, and hdd1p.pk7. What am I missing here?

>replay quake 2 because why the fuck not, it's a blast

I guess it's still fun but fuck man

did they look at the first quake and said
>man, ranger's air control and movement are way too onpoint and precise
>the rocket launcher is way too useful
>the monsters could use some annoying hitscunts and redundancy
>the level geometry is way too slick and doesn't allow the player to get fucking stuck on it
>what is this muzzleflash bullshit you speak of
getting hit by anything is fucking frustrating

>>3811138
If Doom maps allowed for easier true 3D maps, I'd make a Metroidvania Doom mod that spans out in ALL directions.

>>3811109
Not everyone associates your lolrandom phrase with DoomRL Arsenal.

>>3811150
>lolrandom phrase

>>3811150
>lolrandom
>when it's the official jokey jargon used by yholl anyway

>>3811146
Quake 2 had nothing to do with the original Quake, they just put the name on it to sell more copies.

Working on a Doom 2 Intermission mod, primarily intended for OBLIGE generated mapsets. Early dev screenshot.

>>3811163

I thought the reason they did it was because they didn't want to come up with a new name after they discovered their first idea was already taken.

>>3811174
No; ID outright admitted "we don't know what the hell else to call it and we want it to sell, so just call it quake 2"

>>3811172
This like the Doom 1 intermission screens? I loved those. Wish doom 2 had them. Can you do some for popular megawads like yholl and co?

>>3811163
it's still unfun in any aspect.

accidentally walking in on anything is guaranteed damage, and grunt's sluggish, slow movement warrants you getting stuck on the nearest wall on your way to the door. nothing ever is strong enough to take anything out without risking your ass for a ~5 dmg nibble from some other source. I wish I could come up with a more in-depth description of the tedium I'm getting from playing this game right now but I can't muster up the dedication.

>>3811180
So what you're saying is you need to get good?

I played through it on very hard/nightmare first, anon. That's essentially masochism.

also his name is bitterman.

>>3811172
Another screenshot from a bit later in development. Finally fixed a wierd bug with spot placement, without sprites somehow placing on half pixels.

>>3811176
Yep, it is indeed that. Its is more abstract, so it would suit any regular 32map megawad.

>>3811182
Ah. Still, would love to see proper graphical world overview ones like Doom.

Or a mega-hub for Doom, but that's something that would require it's own sourceport.

>>3811182
One more screenshot, quite recent, added a graphic that shows up when you enter a Secret Level.

>>3811138
It was a proof of concept, Ideally real 3D levels would be built. Mostly focused on getting the weapons, dynamics and enemy animations down.

Its also fun building to the SOTN wall textures, gave a good arena to test the gameplay in.

>>3811185
Yeah, I thought about having actual drawn maps ala Doom 1, but they would only be usable on a single mapset, custom made.

Partly, I intended this mod to be freely remixable by anyone, so they can use this mod as a base to quickly create a custom made drawn map version for any campaign they want. Or just modify freely the abstract one to look different.

>>3811181
nah, more shit like mouse acceleration and, again, the shitty movement and lack of air control. also the redundancy in enemy types.

I never went 'this game is too hard because I keep on dying', it's just got some design choices I'd rather not stand, because they're not good choices in my view.

>>3811181
>very hard/nightmare

>>3811149
You can stack multiple 3d floors

>>3811202
Yeah, but it's a pain.
I'll probably do it anyway, but makes me wish there was a better port to work with, even if it wasn't Doom.

>>3811197
I never want to experience that again.

>>3811192
I never found it hard because of the design choices. but that's just me.

The dogs can go fuck themselves, though.
>that ominous tapping whenever you enter a room
You KNOW that little shit is somewhere, but you don't want to trigger him before blowing his face off.
Fortunately most of the Quake 2 enemys are slow and/or have obvious tells/windups before they use their deadliest attacks.
fF

Fortunately you can exploit

>>3811210
no, I mean that because it's always amazing when people claim to beat games in difficulties that don't exist

>>3811172
>>3811182
>>3811186
This looks very nice for tracking overall progression. Will this work with any typical 32-map megawad?

>>3811213

>>3811213
>doesn't exist
I'll take that bait.
Hours of anguish says otherwise.
it's not initially available, beat game on hardest difficulty, then nightmare unlocks.

>>3811149
You can easily do that now with stacking sectors and portals.

With portals it is even easier than with sectors, as it is literally the same way Duke3D did that.

Add Metroid-style blast doors/hatches for ease of rendering and portalling multiple spaces together.

>>3811210
I guess I get where you're coming from. I'm of the idea that the beginning of the game is the easiest to manage by far, though. parasites are annoying shitters but they're always used sparingly. it's from unit five onwards that I have a gripe with, mostly because of things like my rockets being slow and having a retardedly small collision box, and the frankly boring overuse of gunners, berserkers and gladiators. most of the areas I revisit either have drones in them or a couple of surprise monsters spawned in for some reason and that becomes really tiring.

I probably came off as angrier than intended in my first post than I had any intention to be. it's not a bad game by any means, just kinda... eh, I don't know.

>>3811220
>>3811219
>it's not initially available, beat game on hardest difficulty, then nightmare unlocks.

>>3811181
>I played through it on very hard/nightmare first
at what point did you look it up on the internet

>>3811214
Yes it will. I'll still have to run some final tests before releasing it, but its almost complete.

>>3810984

record a demo and then record the demo with good old fraps

>>3811221
Where the hell are the breaks in Douk 3d's maps, aside from the really obvious ones?
Duke had some obvious doom-like map breaks; but others in the maps were practically seamless.

>>3811227
Fuck if I know? Shit memory, it betrays me all the time.

>>3811274
>breaks

I don't know what are you talking about here.

Duke uses portals to make room-over-room and underwater sections - they physically exist in differnt sections of the map, but are connected via portalling and appear as a seamless space when viewed from within the game.

New (relatively) feature of the GZDoom allows to do exactly that. https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=52118

>>3811109
not him but i knew about it but had no idea people were calling it that. how are you supposed to find these things out for yourself?

>>3810930
The people who would otherwise make a good frontend probably use a shell with tab-complete.

>>3809987
>>666 KB

appropriate

Anyone know a good cs1.6 server?

>>3810151
do do do do do do
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S56YduoXoaw

>>3811406
1.6 should be experienced in a 5vs5 team play setting. Goodluck!

>>3811452
>5vs5 team play setting
>not 16v16 in as_crazytank
It's like you hate fun.

>>3811461
Counter Strike isn't the game you play for fun though

>Wad has a very unfun level to slog through
>But the rest afterward is good and you can't believe they shat out a poor map like that

>>3811534
Any map maker can have a couple duds, but yeah it sure does feel good.

>>3809501
Guys, is there a good deathmatch server that hosts Laura Beyer's Doom?

Why's shadow warrior considered the least good of the build engine trilogy?

>>3811546
It's not Shadow Warrior that is, it's Redneck Rampage.

>>3811546
Redneck Rampage has some of the most infuriating level design, monsters and sporadic weapon balance. Even though I prefer the setting of RR, SW is still a better game overall.

>>3811546
Picking the worst of Duke, SW and Blood (the games you're referring to I assume) is like being given 3 high-value bills and being asked to get rid of the worst looking one. They're all really good in their own ways, but they all also have problems.

What map elements might you include to make a space seem less anthropomorphic, as if it was created by robot intelligence?

>>3811601
90 degree angles

>>3811608
And that's why Wolfeinstein 3D looks that way. Because Robo-Hitler.

>>3811163
>>3811174
>>3811176
All the other names they tried were either taken or shit. The ones that have been mentioned in public were "Wor", "Strogg", "Lock and Load" and just "Load". So, "Quake 2" it was!

>reading around doomwiki
>Niconico exists because of DWANGO
>mfw

>>3811672
What? Pffft, retard that's not true. I'm gonna look it up right now to see for mysel-

>With the advent of Quake came multiplayer across the Internet, and DWANGO, which had started to dwindle by late 1995, was all but dead after its release. It was formally shut down in most areas of the world in 1998. Its Japanese subsidiary, which had earlier been spun off into a separate corporation, survived however with an evolving mission statement. It now runs the popular Japanese video sharing site Niconico and owns game developer Spike Chunsoft. Nintendo acquired a 1.5% share of the company in late 2013.

>>3811681
>WotS exists because of Doom
Thank you based Carmack for this bounty of nippon steeru.

>>3809501
>doom babbies
:^}

Get the fuck off this board shitty casul ass fucktard poseur doom babbies.

>>>/r/halo

im still getting nowhere with this smoke shit

i really dont get why its not showing up right

>>3811601
grids.

(source: udmx map06)

>>3811757
>quake with WWII weapons
>strafejumping with WWII weapons

oh yes

>idarchive will not host a WAD if it has commercial music
>yet it hosts Pirate Doom which has Highway to Hell playing in one of its levels

Was it ever explained why?

>>3811826
its a good wad brent

>>3811826
I remember Sabbat Martyr Deathmatch had an OGG instrumental of I Stand Alone by Godsmack and I remember another WAD that used stuff from the Matrix soundtrack, so I dunno what's up.

Also I checked the wad without playing it and it's not the full song, so I guess the maintainers thought it was kosher.

>>3811826
>>3811865

DUMP 2 also has a snippet of Smooth by Santana.

>>3811826
my guess would be the administrator didn't check the music or did but didn't recognise it as being from a commercial source (e.g. by never having heard it before), before approving the upload.

This is pretty fucking dumb.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NRMpNA86e8Q

>>3812003
haha, awkward as heck but the ending made up for it

Sergeant_Mark_IV did nothing wrong
Exit bag

>>3812039
Yeah
Body Bag.

D4D is pretty boring

Why isn't SynthDoom.pk3 uploaded anywhere?

I want to add it as a recommendation to the mod I want to release, but it turns out that the only download link ever has been shared was on /vr/. Nowhere else. No one can find this gem like this.

I'm considering to upload it myself to moddb, Idgames and zdoom forums if the anon who made it won't do it. Its too good to be left forgotten like this.

>>3812078
Gib link

>>3812090
Sure. This is the only one that exists.
https://mega.nz/#!KlBiAJDC!PuPUNjIjKdqK6NISzhQlWs8I7hUIrIkpvSuOyRnH4uE

>playing Brutal Doom

>>3811114
I thought it didn't change monsters, and it just changed weapons? Is that the DoomRL monster pack in the image?

When I play heavy wads with lots of enemies, animated objects et on Zandronum/doom seeker I get extremely poor performance no matter the rendering, hardware, software, openGL. I'll have 200 fps , then as soon as theres lots of particles and enemies i'll drop as low as 30.

I have an r9 280x, and an fx 8350. At first I thought it was because AMD doesn't do well with OpenGL then I switched to hardware and it didn't help a whole lot. Anyone have any suggestions? Is it time I buy an i7 and Gtx 1070? I'd rather not if I could help it. Please any words of advice would be appreciated

>>3812156
It's not so much graphics that are an issue, it's processing. Every single entity is a separate actor, see.

>>3812156
sorry to add: This happens with mods like complex doom, even to an extent d4d.

>>3812156
>lots of enemies, animated objects
i'm afraid enemies and animated objects are all done on the CPU.

>>3812160
So are you saying my CPU just can't handle it? Would I get way better performance with an i7 or something? Or is this common for lots of people

>>3812164
fwiw zdoom 2.8.1 on a skylake i5 could handle russian overkill on nuts.wad playably, but the same map with brutal doom was a slideshow.

>>3810006
that map was tough yeah, but don't worry, the last 10 maps have some of the best ones.

>>3812156
Limitation with the api itself with draw calls
DirectX12 and Vulkan are the fix to this

How complicated is Quake modding compared to Doom? Lately I've been having some ideas for a gameplay mod, but I don't know how difficult pulling it off could end up being.

>>3811027
I remember some anon made a Heretic version for NotS some threads ago.

>>3812208
so then i'm screwed untill a zdoomx exists? Unless theres some hidden Directx12 support for z& I dont know of?

How exactly do you setup a MAPINFO file for Heretic maps? I can't seem to find anything that works for it.

>>3812269
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=55031

Is #vr worth using?

literally where is the ammo in map 4 of disjunction

>>3812168
so i'm not the only one dropping frames like a madman to occasionally near unplayable levels (at the very least unenjoyable) on these ridiculous wads with mods like complex?

>>3812303
Sure. Optimization and a better cpu can only go so far.
The new 40K game from the EYE devs has the same problem even on the best setups.

>>3810580
I'm happy I'm not the only one who wants tanegashimas in JPCP.

>>3812396
Depends. When I was there, it wasn't very lively and they didn't talk about Doom or retro vidya at all.

>>3812396
As I recall (two or three years ago though - might've changed a lot since) it was 40-50% ZDoom/Zandronum, 40-50% general /v/ plus a bit of /b/ and /pol/. Not really to my interest but you might find it more to yours?

>>3812396

i poked my head in a while back and there was some guy named Balrog ranting about jews, so i left

>>3811093
Accessories to Murder is my favorite gameplay mod, while I don't like how the monsters look it's very balanced

Really don't like how every gameplay mod that comes out nowadays is geared for slaughterwads and shit

>>3812121
Yes, you might as well use it alongside its parent mod.

Friendly reminder that Sgt. Shivers is pretty fucking based when it comes to making animations

>>>/wsg/1554355

>>3812438
What is this art style?
I'm thinking Samurai Jack but I'm bad at this

>>3812567
>I'm thinking Samurai Jack
You'd be right, it's pretty obvious being such a unique style

>>3812572
Been like 10+ years since i seen it so i wasnt sure

new season next month

>>3810580
>>3812438

You are going to be very disappointed then.

>>3811157

If I told random people on the internet I made durla, who would know what the hell that is?
You should probably stop refering to things with weird names 99.9% of people won't understand.

>>3812557
>>3812586
>>3812621
moar

>>3812258

Doom is significantly easier to mod because of ZDoom. It's so goddamn easy to do pretty much anything with it in about 5 minutes. I don't think there's really a Quake equivalent, or even anything close.

>>3812512
Lots of slaughterwads are coming out, plus they're really popular, so it would only make sense

>>3812681
>plus they're really popular
not really

there's been a huge rising backlash against supposed "slaughtershit" lately

>>3811546
no, thats NAM

Fuck all this slaughtershit

>>3809502
TheRailgunner is back. Expect progress on The Trooper and X-Weapon to start up again.
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=55321
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?p=978921#p978921

>>3812629
>disappointed
Nah, still hype, you guys always make great mods, a personal preference being absent won't change that.

>>3810969
fuck off megablast, dime is better anyway

>>3810930
>>3810969
I will never understand why people don't just use ZDL

>>3812729
Because it's utter trash in terms of speed compared to drag-dropping.

>>3812725
wow

rude

>>3812534
>Some tsuyo sound instead of Double Dragon HAH
Where is it from?
It sounds familiar

>>3812717
That's good to hear.
The JPCP stuff is a mixture of very high-tech guns, combined with tech-enhanced traditional anti-youkai weaponry.

Or at least it should be, that's what's planned. We're making BTSX at the moment.

>>3812782
Blaz's own voice, Marty recorded a lot of Blaz grunts and HYAHS a long ass time ago and I'm finally getting off my dead ass and implementing them

>>3812787
How strange, it really sounds like something else.

What other sounds will he make when doing uppercuts?
This is important because uppercuts is my favorite thing in GMOTA

>>3812796
I've got a pool of a fair amount of grunts and yells for Blaz thanks to Marty, and yeah I fucking love the uppercut too.

Why does Hideous Destructor marine sound like a woman/young boy and when did this happen?

>>3812783
>The JPCP stuff is a mixture of very high-tech guns, combined with tech-enhanced traditional anti-youkai weaponry

Hype train
No breaks

>>3812807
>spelled it wrong no once but twice

>>3812803

Check the pronoun option in your player options.

>tfw GZDB corrupts your map and you lose an hour of work just as you were about to save

>>3812837
Save every 15 minutes?

>>3812845
I forgot.

is there any way to tell darkplaces which textures go to which model?

i have too many models here that both share the same names but have different images

Is prescale mouse movement just mouse acceleration?

>>3812890
Feels like it.

>>3812869
do the revenant and archvile

How do I get my automap to look like how it does when I'm not using the alternative HUD on ZDoom? I touched a setting somewhere and I miss being able to hit tab and see the monster/secret count.

Working on retooling the bomber knight a little I'm making their bombs destructable so if you can break them harmlessly if you attack them enough.

I also removed the pull of gravity on their long range bomb so they can actually be a threat at long range just like their original Hell Knight counterparts. I'm tempted to swap the bomb out for an axe, for variety sake and because I think axes are cool.

I'm also removing their martyr bombs they drop on death because those were really fucking annoying, damn, what was I thinking?

Hosting Zand (zandronum) junk. Consider it your sketchbook for mapping incase you wanted to try something new or experiment; but didn't want to make a full map; as a result maps do not need to be standard or even properly playable/completable; rather, it's your testing bed or sandbox. As a result, don't expect quality; that's not the point; it's to test things before putting them into action. Add onto existing maps or make your own.

>>3812926
Make the bomb spin as it flies, but bounce off of walls. Also after the first bounce apply gravity.

>>3812935
You're a goddamn genius, I love this, the best part is Blaz can block these with his shield

>>3812941
Thanks bruh.

I also finally got OBS to stop being such a piece of shit, so I might be able to maek webm again. This 480p piece of shit is my titlemap, and the only recording that didn't suck dick.

In Reelism, does anything special happen if you roll Dog Whistle/Dog Mode/Dogged?

>>3812941
Oh also if you're up to it you could make the bomb be tumbling forward mid-flight with full rotations. What you've got now is fine but I think that might look even better.

>>3812953
I'm working with the limited sprites I got, plus being able to see the fuse poking out at all angles will make damn sure the player knows it's a bomb spiraling towards their face.

>>3812946
now you are thinking with portals.

I remember there being a few ACS-based mods that allowed to create linedefs from within the game. Would that mean that proper portalgunning is possible now?

>>3812956
Yeah, thought so. I suppose for first-time comprehensibility the current way is better too.
>>3812957
I don't think you can actually make new linedefs with ACS, just change existing ones around a bit. If you made a specially-made level with a specially-made gun you might be able to have many surfaces able to turn into portals, but if you wanted full enemy AI compat and everything too (which essentially requires Eternity-style portals) I don't think it would be possible.

>>3812960
Are static portals we have now Ai-compatible?

>>3812963
The correct answer to that is: sort of. Enemies can path through them but sometimes if there are a lot of portals leading to where you are enemies can choose the wrong one. If you use them as intended (to make multi-level structures or non-euclidean geometry without going TOO nuts) they're definitely good enough. If you go nuts and have a room fold in on itself you might encounter problems.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/ust57cpsdtxk4m5/MAP01.wad

Summon an imp on this and test it out, you'll see what I mean.

Is it possible to have an actor that monsters and players can walk through, but still have it be shootable?

>>3812976
On similar note: is it possible to make a shootable wall, but the one that is only shootable with a specific weapon?

AKA Metroid-like hatch.

>>3812979
You can make an actor only take damage from certain damage types. If you put it in front then make its pain state open the door and remove its SOLID flag it might work.

>Bullet-Eye thread
>Mor'Ladim: "If you all keep this up about the Hunting Laser, I may just end up developing mods for Duke Nukem 3D instead!"

>>3813024
Neat

>due to my blatant copypasting of my own code, enemies would only become afraid if they could see you
Fucking hell I'm retarded.

What are some Doom maps, where the action happens in the sky or heaven?

So far I can remember:
Mandrill's Ass Planes level and the end heaven level, also Bloodstaqin's secret level.

>>3812946
Is it weird for me to be more triggered by the true 3d perspective distortions than the portal gimmick?

>>3813121
http://www.decarpentier.nl/lens-distortion

We need someone to fucking implement a proper FOV-distortion prevention already, if not in Doom, then at least in ANY game.

>>3813143
this is what I mean. The formulas are all there, so can someone try and make a lens distortion shader that uses this?

>>3812586
>>3812621
that's cute. now, the other six angles, please.

>>3812926
>I'm tempted to swap the bomb out for an axe, for variety sake and because I think axes are cool.
I think you should, the high speed anti-gravity bombs look out of place and are pretty lame compared to the classic heavy bomb.

>>3812976
+SHOOTABLE
-SOLID

In GZDoom, is it possible to recreate a similar effect to how the portals work on the Vortex Portal map in Quake 3?

I really should be working on my E1M8 highway 2 hell submission but I've been having too much fun piddling around with various testing maps.

Pick a peice for me to focus working on, or a patch of void; Note the medbay will be shifted back into place later; I already intend a secret alternate route in.

In the meantime; take a look at my other "fuck around and learn shit" this time with a variable basic techbase and some basic linescrips; ae: blowing open walls and the like.

The rockets go the wrong way though, they're supposed to go down, not up.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/285zwxuw4nrwpvj/zandjunk.wad?dl=0

>>3812926
Make it have 2 attacks - short range gravity affected bomb when player gets in range, and a throwing magical anti-gravity axe (like axes that Undead Warriors from Heretic use) that bounces and falls down when it hits the wall.

>>3811762
wouldn't that just be Day of Defeat?

I want to make a Quake map but I'm not imaginative enough to think of anything

What do

>>3813254
Using clever tricks; hide some shamblers and vores inside of map geometry; making it look like you're killing some sort of new boss horrifying shoggoth.

>>3813254
A trek into the heart of the abyss, to find a lost UAC computer

>>3813259
>hide some shamblers and vores inside of map geometry
are you fucking satan

>>3813271
absoluely a possibilty

HAVE STEALTH MONSTER

>>3811546
>>3811549
>>3811553
>>3811558
>>3812696
You are all wrong.

It's Wichawen. Looks like a turd, plays like a turd, has level design of a turd.

Witchaven 2 is margnally better than Redneck Rampage, but only a little bit. But Witchaven 1 is still absolutely worst Build game.

Tekwar? What Tekwar?

>>3813331
Extreme Paintbrawl exists, so you're still wrong.

The original post presumably was only including Duke, SW, and Blood though, given that it said "trilogy".

>>3813314
HAVE A REAL STEALTH MONSTER

>>3812729
I still use the dos prompt to load multiple wads

>>3813406
command line is best line

>mfw people actually use the quake injector instead of just ~ and "map x"

>>3813331
William Shatner's Tekwar.
You may recognise some of the sprites from WildWeasel's Terrorism wad. Around the time he went on a tirade against sprite rips, go figure

>>3813420
I know what Tekwar is.

That was a joke about how nobody remembers Tekwar.

>>3813420
Why would you use your own face as avatar if you looked like this

Dancing around the visplane limit.

>>3813467
Who is that
why is this directed at me?

>>3813487
How does one interpret these colours?

>>3813489
Wildweasel's GitHub avatar.

>>3813490
i think it goes blue to red as the number of visplanes visible from that location increases

>>3812965
>Enemies can path through them but sometimes if there are a lot of portals leading to where you are enemies can choose the wrong one. If you use them as intended (to make multi-level structures or non-euclidean geometry without going TOO nuts) they're definitely good enough. If you go nuts and have a room fold in on itself you might encounter problems.
That actually sounds sensible, if non-euclidean confuses even the AI, I'd say you're on the right track.

>>3813487
Now run that on Comatose wad.

>>3813487
How do you get a visplane image like this?

>>3813531
There's option for view. The previous image is in heatmap mode. This is the other mode, which is bit more useful since it highlights the areas that go over visplane limit in red.

>>3812729

I don't understand how to use it

>>3813089
Map 24 of Ancient Aliens looks like some sort of holy sanctuary in the skies. Which while beautiful always looked kind of strange compared to the other episode 3 maps.

>>3813627
>picture

You know our species is fucked when the demon is not he terrifying one in a picture with a demon and a child's toy

>>3813705
The horse looks fed up with Caco's shit.

Maybe Caco is reciting Doom puns

>somebody made yet another 3DGE mod

>>3813742
>any doom-based engine

>>3813742

>>3813751
I think his point might be that edge is just pure shit.

why is there no ammo in this map

>>3813867
There's a bunch of shells right in your screenshot though.

>>3813867
also ducking in and then ducking out of this room locks you out
>>3813873
i was talking about the maps ammo balance being to little

>>3813867

Which WAD? Hellscape?

>>3813878
There should be switch that reopens the door on side of the pillar with BK switch.
Also, the maps aren't designed with jumping/ducking in mind.

As for ammo, tyson it up and be effective. It's sorta meant to have little ammo.
It was worse before release.

>>3813867
that map was trash last time I played it in the beta, there simply wasn't enough ammo to clear it even with 90%+ accuracy

FUCKING CHRIST; WHICH WAD IS IT NIGGAZ!=!=!=!?!?!?!?!?!?!?