/vr/ - Retro Games

=== NEWS ===

[Highway to Hell] Second phase of mapping has started! Ends on Feb 28th
>>/vr/thread/3757618#p3759223

[Til 4-1] QUMP is still going!
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Zlfb2U2VCeS70uS6Klc2ZEOC9KtnYyCyBXEmeetjh0c/edit

[Til 3-15] Dropbox will be dropping support of public folders in mid-March

[2-4] Sgt Shivers and Yholl to do some megawad-themed weapon packs; Ancient Aliens, JPCP, and BTSX
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?p=975429#p975429

[2-3] TNT Revilution Beta released
https://www.doomworld.com/vb/post/1551971

[2-2] Lithium 1.2 released
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=54904

[2-2] gdxBlood working along
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LbcwwIaKeV8

[1-31] RIP Jan Paul "Mr. Elusive" van Waveren, long-time Id programmer/Carmack associate
http://www.shacknews.com/article/98848/jan-paul-van-waveren-programmer-for-over-three-generations-of-id-software-tech-has-passed-away

[1-31] Noclip interviews John Romero
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AJqWA3UPsPg

[1-31] D4T (the diet D4D fork) has been updated to v1.0.1.1
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=54750

[1-31] WIP: GZDoom to get Doom 64-style gradient sector colouring UDMF
https://www.doomworld.com/vb/post/1711113

[1-27] New release of Custom Gun (v0.999) with fixes
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=54303

[1-27] Disjunction Beta 3 released
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1NxOZlEf5aNU3NCN0tVRmk0XzQ/view?usp=sharing

[1-26] Anon release; a pack of SP Quake 2 maps
http://colonthreeenterprises.tumblr.com/post/156354414901/my-quake-2-unit-is-finally-here-3c-it-has

[1-25] Sgt Shivers has released Final Doomer, a gameplay mod with classes themed around TNT and Plutonia
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=55061

[1-22] New Smooth Doom version out
http://www.mediafire.com/file/mkkqiypo8q4hm88/SmoothDoom.pk3

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PROTIP: If you would like to submit any news or your personal map or mod releases here, please reply/backlink to this post.

OPs pic and the Starry Night remix are good stuff.

>>3778141
It makes a good wallpaper.

>>3778142
More classic paintings need the Doom treatment.

>>3778143
There's a Romero edit of Mona Lisa lying about somewhere, as well as The Last Supper. Though the latter isn't a meme edit

>>3778146
this?

Where's the OOM general?

>>3778178
right next to the reddit general

What is the best way of playing Doom 3?

>>3778193
I like using Sikkmod

>>3778193
Turn 360 degrees and walk away

>>3778194
BFG edition or vanilla? Also what do you think about Overtinked Doom?

>>3778214
I used Vanilla. Never heard of Overtinked Doom.

>>3778215
I looked it up on the archive and it was mentioned the grand total of two times. One of the threads that mentioned it also mentioned to get a mod for fixing the shotgun. Now, is the shotgun in Doom 3 unusable or something?

>>3778218
The D3 shotgun is just really ass

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oXy4W7wzINE
The next part will be the last.
...or is it?

>>3778214
Where do I get it? Google does nothing.

>>3778239
moddb

>>3778214
Modded Vanilla is probably better option, since BFG edition is incompatible with mods for original if it can even be modded at all.
I did play vanilla Doom 3 like week ago and enjoyed it and didn't find it ugly.

>>3778203
Enjoy headbumping into Doom 3 again.

Has anyone gotten Colorful Hell to work with Psychic? I'm not getting any Colorful Hell enemies when loading them together with both load orders.

>>3778257
Colorful Hell should take priority by loading later, but the thing is that the CH enemies will not drop blood money on death. Though Psychic isn't all that easy as-is, I suppose there must be a patch around or something.

>>3778258
Preddy weird since Psychic was recommended as a weapon mod on the Colorful Hell mod page

What's the best way to take down this fucking tank? It seemed like sniping the gunner would work but it did nothing so I tried the rocket launcher but I only get a few shots off before it one shots me. The fucking aoe alone is enough to one shot me and the rocket flies so fast I can immediately strafe as soon as it fires and I'll still die.

>>3778261
Probably just mentioned for being a gameplay mod without any apparent custom enemies on the surface level. Psychic does modify the base Doom enemies, there's some aesthetic stuff like Hell Barons throwing red stuff and Pain Elementals creating different Lost Souls that don't drop shit, otherwise they would practically generate infinite money for you.

It's why Guncaster needs a patch as well. No patch, no dosh.

>>3775286

why can't we have 16 angles for every animation?

and captures from above and below?

it's 2017

>>3778267
>>3778267
Ugh, that thing...
I tried to fight it with DRLA, what seemed to work for me was darting behind those trucks and then attack him from behind; if I remember correctly, he cant turn over there. Also make sure you're hitting the turret; only it can take damage.

is there a way to precache textures in gzdoom that are not on the level?

I'm having some serious fps drops with some weapon particles when first fired

>>>/vg/

>>3778267
Is that Grezzo?

>>3778270
>why can't we have 16 angles for every animation?
I think you can, 16 sprite rotations is an EDGE extension that was adopted by ZDoom and PrBoom+ at least, maybe others since 2011.

>>3778270
ZDoom does allow 16 rotations but not above and below.

>>3778274
Thanks, I did it.

>>3778282
No it's the hell on Earth Starter pack.

>>3778193

redux

>>3778270 >>3778284 >>3778285

https://zdoom.org/wiki/Sprite#Angles

It's a bit complicated, instead of XXXXF1 to XXXF8 you have 1,9,2,A,3,B,4,C,5,D,6,E,7,F,8,G - 9 to G are interspersed between 1 to 8. This is mostly for backwards compatibility. But it does work!

>>3778270
>>3778285
Above and below is doable but not without some sort of scripting hack. Return of the Triad does it for the platforms.

>>3778319

So if the SSG fires more than double the pellets with two shells compared to a regular shotgun with one shell, would you get a super-like version of a regular shotgun if you cut off a barrel from a SSG, and thus convert it into a single shotgun that simply fires more pellets?

>>3778324
>defiling a SSG
SPEAK NOT OF SUCH BLASPHEMY WITHIN THESE HALLS

>>3778324
half barrel 10 pellet ssg would retain much slower reload and wider spread of full ssg thus be strictly worse than traditional pump action 7 pellet shotgun.

>>3778326

>>3778193
Flashlight mod or with chainsaw as much as possible.

>>3778365
Could you explain why the chainsaw is good, to those who haven't played the game?

>>3778412
Really powerful, is essentially it.

It has a high damage output, and a fast (constant) one too, so if you put your mind to it, you can kill near any monster in the game with pretty basic tactics.

>>3778412
makes the game easier. games problem is its fucking tedious and not challenging and the levels are stupid long and boring.

>>3778193

don't use the flashlight mod, I don't fucking understand how people not realize the way it works is to give emphasis on the terror atmosphere

>>3778458
The terror atmosphere in Doom 3 is really weak and boring though, you very quickly grow accustomed to the repeated jumpscares.

I prefer cutting out something the game just isn't even good at in the first place to make it a better shooter.

Does anyone whose played zbloody hell know what the zandronum console command for weapon bob is?

>>3778142
>missing chaingunner
what gives

>>3778593
movebob

default value is 0.25, adjust to your taste accordingly

>>3778613
Nice thanks

is there a list of all the assemblies in doomrl arsenal?

>>3778627
Yes. I don't know where it is though. I just remember it's been posted lots of times before. As I don't play ZDoom stuff I didn't care to make a note of the link. You can probably find it searching the archives for, well, the words in your post to which I'm replying.

How do I git gud at Unreal Tournament?

>>3778653
UT99: just shoot the enemy & remember rockets hit like a truck
UT2003/4: spam jump repeatedly & shoot the enemy
UT3: don't even

What was that fan level pack for blood that was updated recently?

>>3778665
Deathwish?

Any good Heretic weapon mods, other than Amplified and OSCJ?

>>3778697
Samsara?

>>3778702
Too limited.

>>3778230
how long has this contest taken

You can 3D model anything, what do you make?

Remember that it has to show up well in 320x200 for weapons, and about 60x60 for monsters.

>>3778713
About a week and five months assuming it started when the thread on Vinesauce.com was made, which I kind of doubt. It was all a bit of a shitshow for anyone that cared to enter.

Doom 2 (2019)

>>3778720
>You can 3D model anything, what do you make?
Dicks. Lots and lots of dicks.

>>3778681
YES! thank you

IT'S FUCKING SATURDAY, Y'ALL KNOW THE DRILL

POST YOUR SPRITES, POST YOUR MAPS, POST YOUR CODE, POST YOUR LAYOUTS, POST WHAT YOU'VE BEEN WORKING ON

>>3778720

Sprites for my game.

>>3778737
I decided to continue that True Lab wad I started months ago. No real progress though. I'm just wrecking my head how to best translate the angled top down RPG view into a 3D environment.

>>3778732
https://my.mixtape.moe/oxmiak.webm

You can make a cheap pingas and make it jiggle in maybe 15 minutes. If you want realistic elements then the sculpting will take more time.

>>3778627
>>3778640

>>3778267
First keep behind the trucks and clear all the zombies. Then run behind it and fire at its fuel tank. You can take it down with two rockets.

>>3778737
Setting up another room for that E1M8

aka >>3773825 related

i'm trying to make it so killing the barons lowers these 3d floor fuckers out of blocking position. Having a glance at the unusual hexagon makes me think i may axe the 3d floors tho.

>>3778737
Just prettied up my map02 and released a new version (RC1)

Getting it off my shoulders, since next week I'll be pretty busy. Threw in that map I made some days ago, too, since I don't know where else I could throw it.

For those interested, https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1NxOZlEf5aNYVo1cWlISFVHTW8/view?usp=sharing
New map is map07

This >>3778909
vs This

Quake shits on Doom
>faster
>more challenging enemies
>actual 3D
>more atmospheric maps
>better soundtrack

Doom is a meme game
>muh hordes of enemies!
>majority of fights look like picrel it was the fan made wads that introduced hundreds of monsters per level
>music is utter shit sounds like a retard composed it
>only E1 is even memorable other episodes are garbage
>2D game cosplaying 3D
>easy enemies

for a Doomfag killing 3 Imps with a shotgun is the most hardcore FPS experience he can imagine he can't comprehend stuff like looking around, rocket jumping or monsters not dying in three shots tops Doom is to Quake what COD is to Rainbow Six.

>>3779002
For (You)

>>3779002
">music is utter shit sounds like a retard composed it "
>shitting on I Sawed The Demons
fuck off

>>3779002
/vr/ is nearly 4 years old
you've been doing this for 4 entire years
think about that

you just had to acknowledge it, didn't you?

Combined Arms is garbage.

>>3779015
i called out the troll. a report wouldn't do any good -- there's nothing in the post that actually breaks the rules. same as with >>3779018 . anyone who's been here any length of time will recognise that not as an opinion but bait. but it's not against the rules. so what can you do?

I actually like quake a lot more than doom

for me dooms strength resides in its modding capabilities, but quake feels all around more solid gameplay wise. all it needed was a couple more monsters with more interesting fighting mechanics

>>3779029
this is a minority opinion but far from a unique one so stop worrying that you have to hide behind a spoiler tag.

>>3779038
I actually did it so as to avoid being confounded by a shitposter as has happened to me long ago

>>3779029
>for me dooms strength resides in its modding capabilities, but quake feels all around more solid gameplay wise.
I have to agree there- not much of a fan of Vanilla Doom myself.

What's the funnest gun mod? I know Combined Arms is the least fun.

>>3779043

>confounded by

Did you mean "confused with"?

>>3779065
Accessories to Murder

>>3779084
It sucks just like Combined Shit.

>>3779084
Just don't bother.

>>3779089
>>3779095
I think it's fun :(

what wads should I play to have an idea of what is a good map?

(implying I'm gonna make one)

Hmm...

What if in GZDoom, Voxels would've been rendered as an array of X/Y aligned sprites instead of 3dmodels? Would that make it run faster or slower?

>>3779101
>>3779095 (me)
I didn't mean it was shit, (it isn't) I was telling him to not reply to the troll.

>>3779102
Back to Saturn X E1/E2
Ancient Aliens
Speed of Doom

basically anything thats mentioned in the cacowards

>>3779102
>>3779109

and maps with special effects and such?

>>3779104
Slightly faster, but more complicated 'cos multiple draw calls. That's why Graf does it with MD3s.

>[2-4] Sgt Shivers and Yholl to do some megawad-themed weapon packs; Ancient Aliens, JPCP, and BTSX
That Ancient Aliens plasma rifle equivalent better look like a cheesy old school scifi gun. Hopefully firing neon goodness too.

>>3779123
>It'll be the Dakka lightning gun

>>3779102

For Gameplay maps

>Doom 4 Doom or D4T(Best dewm 4 emulation ever)
>Metroid Dreadnought(The ever unfinished Metroid primemod for Dewm)
>DRLA(Roguelike ARsenal)
>Russian Overkill(for blowing shit and spill DAKKA AL UVER DA OLE PLACE)
>Johnny Doom(which marks BRD will never be)
>GMOTA(Fuck in Melee as a true Man should)

>>3779129
Forgot

>Demonsteele https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ww2fU_CBpyQ

>>3779102
Don't just copy the cacoward winners, play random stuff from the mid nineties, when modern perfectionism hadn't bled all the soul out of mapping.

>>3779129
I love that picture. The cacodemon is very well drawn - it's pretty hard to make them actually scary and grotesque, especially in the Post-Alice Age

>>3779123
Oh,and maybe sound like some of these too:
https://youtu.be/qHK4YjgDV9s

>>3779140
Still looks cute to me, sucks that Dale Gribble is about to kill it.

>abloobloo Doom general is a safe space and we can't have any opinions that stray from hive mind here :(

>>3779150
That could be said about most generals.

>>3779102
the various works of nicolas monti

fancy textures and graphical details are for fags, learn you some quality encounter and secret design before you bother with any of that shit

>>3779129
>(The ever unfinished Metroid primemod for Dewm)
i keep hearing this, but nobody ever says what's unfinished about this

>>3779150
>waaahhhhh my shitposts got deleted!

Are you just going to delete anything negative?

try not to choke on those hotpockets

>>3779156
Didn't Term say it was pretty much finished, or something like that?

>>3779156
>>3779161

I have to agree. There are a few things that could've used polish like proper charging animations for the arm cannon, but I'm not really sure what else you could do with it besides turn it into a full Metroid fangame.

>>3779169
make it z&dro compatable

>>3779175
it is

>>3779169
>turn it into a full Metroid fangame
:3c

>>3779169
And that went real fuckin' well, didn't it?

>>3779070
fucking hell

>>3779182
Imagine if Nintendont decides to cease and desist entire GZDoom development because of that.

>>3779156
>>3779161


its mostly a joke here, where term moves quickly to another project while the other one is still going on and he says that the former is complete and some people make fun.

In fact, its "complete" for a gameplay mod for both SP and Multiplayer, but a lot of people here and on /r/metroid had a lot of ideas for improving it, liek zero suit mode with metroid universe guns, suit upgrades based on D4D code and Better samus sprites using the SNES/Fusion SA-X, but everyone fears messing up with the mod because they don't know how to Doom mod 101 right, also they fear that reggie the nigga boogeyman of nintendo will come up at night and rape their asses for using the name METROID<also the fans, both here and /vr/ and other places, ane they a simply a bunch of autistic fucks who keeps bitching about Prime vs Platformer.

also the mod doesn't work well on the newest GZDoom updates, unless you delete a few lines on Slade


there was a guy on youtube updating it, but we had no news of him, this the bastard managed to replicate prime on the 2nd video

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0h4vgD0Qt9U
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=31BQsEWeyO8

What's the creepiest Doom wad that still has Doom gameplay?

>>3779156
>what's unfinished about this
It lacks Brutal Doom support, duuuuh.

>>3779161

I have, because it pretty much is.
There's been attempts to make it into a TC before, but all of them kind of flopped, and I don't really see it changing.

>>3779191
I can't say much for the wad's gameplay but Hellcore 2.0 has some horror in it.

>>3779196
>Hellcore
>gameplay

kek

>>3779186
I'd laugh so much if Oolickers got carted off to the german goulag

>>3779190
>also the mod doesn't work well on the newest GZDoom updates, unless you delete a few lines on Slade
I think v1.1c plays fine, now. Unless there's a super-recent update that breaks it.

>>3779205

1.1c? I thought the last version was 1.0.

>>3779207
zdoom thread op says v1.1c

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B4p2zWkJEFFtQUpIbEV6TS0zbjg/view

>>3779195

now it will take a long time since nintendo is hunting down any fangames based on metroid, even rogue dawn is also on the bounty list

>>3779205
graf managed to break some old mods along with dreadnought 1.1c, and you need to delete some lines on late to make it work.

>>3779215
Good fucking job, Graf.

Let's post opinions that go against the hivemind.

Mid nineties maps are better than 2010s maps.

Advanced port modding features are unnecessary. There's no gameplay features Doom needs that Boom compatibility can't provide. In fact about half the features Boom added are ill thought out and should never be used.

Guys I'm looking for one short wad I played it was kinda like Groundhog's Day except more grimdark you went into your apartment, heard a weird noise, killed an imp and then you were in front of your house agian.

>>3779225
t. Brad Harding

please donate

>>3779225
Memento Mori and Requiem play like shit.

>>3779225
>that go against the hivemind.
lol

>>3779230
But then who was super shotgun?

>>3779235
I'm responding to an earlier post that suggested it's impossible to have differing opinions. I don't believe it is as long as you post in good faith instead of trying to bait everyone.

>>3779234
That's a good one. It's even broadly correct, although there are a handful of maps in them that are excellent and I replay often.

>>3779225
Alien Vendetta is dull.

>>3779241
i know and agree, but it was still funny

>>3779225
Ancient Aliens is kind of ugly. It has some interesting gimmicks, but the colors can be downright garish sometimes. Overrated as fuck, Valiant was skillsaw's real magnum opus.

>>3779225
I agree with a lot of Graf Zahl's opinions.

>>3779242
That's true, it starts off okay and Clandestine Complex is glorious but there are some real long slogs in there that are not fun to replay at all. Dark Dome is okay with a powerful weapons mod.

>>3779198
>>3779196
????

Going to post what's been changed so far. Gascan still in same spot, some light touches here and there, put up the WORNOUTFACES, got the floating debris around the pillar.

Trying to think of some neat baseline stuff for the last couple of rooms, and then start peicing the last bits together in the main base section.

Going to make a slight secret passage to the infested room, and possibly extend the teleporter hexagon room into the map itself but only accessible from the bottom-most direction

3d sectors ahoy

>>3779251

>>3779245
Yes there's too much change for change's sake in it. Textures are a total repaint job, with a new palette. Except for the traditional monsters, it doesn't look like Doom in the slightest.

>>3779259
Honestly the monsters and weapons being stock Doom is the biggest disappointment to me. Valiant was so good because of its rebalanced weapons and new monsters that actually made gameplay fresh and interesting and not just holding M1 with the SSG out until all the hell knights are dead.

>>3779225

I don't like how Valiant gets so much praise for its redone monsters and weapons when they ultimately amount to a basic dehacked patch.

>>3779123
I should have spent more time learning to model instead of screwing around.

Colors aren't final, needs to be palette friendly.

>>3779265
I don't particularly like Valiant either because of that reason. It just replaces the base enemies with annoying faggot versions, and it doesn't really feel like it adds anything either because there are no vanilla enemies to compare side to side with the replacements in gameplay.
Valiant is actually the .wad that really kind of soured me on the demo compatibility meme, because dehacked is so restrictive in the end.

>>3779265
>when they ultimately amount to a basic dehacked patch.
What's wrong with that? Sometimes less is more. The new monsters change gameplay up substantially while still fitting in next to regular Doom enemies instead of being so blatantly overproduced like half the shit on Realm667. The weapons aren't really all that impressive, but the rebalance is sufficient. The pistol is more bearable to use and the chaingun holds its own against the SSG, and that's all Doom's arsenal really needed.

>>3779247
He's often right about technical matters. On the other hand it's really obvious when he's arguing in bad faith.

>>3779273
Oh boy, that looks amazing!

>>3779275
To be fair demo compatibility and custom monsters don't mix. I mean, very few demos are recorded on maps with complex dehacked patches that change gameplay significantly.

I mostly argue for using Boom compatibility because it retains freedom of choice of port for the user. You can play a Boom map in Pr+ or Eternity or ZDoom. If you choose ZDoom you can play the map by itself or with any number of gameplay mods.

>>3779273
Is that the fake gun from the back of that old level pack box from the 90's?

>>3779280

By itself, nothing.

But there's several downsides to it.
A: When people treat it as something revolutionary, it's annoying because it's really not.
B: It seriously limits replayability of what it actually can be played with, which is one of the big strengths of Doom.
C: I don't like the replacements, the weapons seem to ultimately boil down to "faster versions of existing weapons".

>>3779305
See: >>3779123

>>3779290
Indeed, that's mostly how I feel about him. Making each individual voxel cube into it's own MD3 makes sense because the code is simpler (multiple MD3s in one call instead of multiple calls) but otherwise his arguments are horribly biased, and usually rather dumb.

>>3779309
Well shit, how did I miss that link
In any case, yeah it's looking good so far, can't wait to see what other weapons you're gonna come up with

>>3779305
It's loosely a 2265 style phaser rifle from Star Trek but pretty much.

>>3779309
>>3779319
NNNEEEEEEEEERRRRRRRRRRDDDDSSS

>>3779338
J. J.pls

>>3779338
Anyone else go through and emerge from a nerdcore hiphop phase

>>3779338
This has to be ironic. Right? You're in a thread for playing and modding a 20 plus years old video game. Star Trek is way less nerdy, it's practically mainstream.

>>3779306
>A: When people treat it as something revolutionary, it's annoying because it's really not.
I don't think anyone thinks the replacements in Valiant are particularly special on their own. They're just the element that makes it more than just another high-quality Boom megawad.

>B: It seriously limits replayability of what it actually can be played with, which is one of the big strengths of Doom.
I don't really agree that every wad should strive for maximum replayability. It's nice, but it usually results in staler stock gameplay.

>C: I don't like the replacements, the weapons seem to ultimately boil down to "faster versions of existing weapons".
Yeah, the weapons aren't anything to be wowed by, but again, they fit in alongside the unchanged weapons instead of going crazy with 100 frames of animation, 20MB worth of high-quality sound effects, and so many particle and smoke effects that you can't even see what you're actually shooting. How else would you rebalance the pistol and chaingun? If you change the base damage dealt, you've just introduced an inconsistency. In stock Doom, a bullet is always 5/10/15, no matter what gun fired it. The blood code takes that into account and you can get a good feel for how much damage a given shot dealt by observing the size of the blood splatters. It's one of Doom's most subtle and most useful features, and it hurts a little bit every time some new game has giant numbers popping up out of enemies when you shoot them, because Doom had the same feature but done so much better 23 years earlier.

>>3779352
>In stock Doom, a bullet is always 5/10/15, no matter what gun fired it.
this is incorrect

>>3779357
It's correct for any player gun. Chainsaw and fist aren't guns.

>>3779361
for any player gun, correct

for any gun, definitely not; the zombies and shotgunners and chaingunners

Does anybody know why the texture I'm copying over from a resource wad isn't functioning as intended?

I copied the animdefs and everything. It's the faces from that shadowcastertex thing

>>3779370
Yeah, but if you're looking at the blood coming out of you instead of the status bar to try and judge the damage you're taking, you're probably making a mistake.

>>3779338
>participating in coitus instead of participating in a greatest electronic virtual reality experience that stands the test of time

>>3779352
>he blood code takes that into account and you can get a good feel for how much damage a given shot dealt by observing the size of the blood splatters.

This is a nice idea in theory but nearly impossible to seriously keep track of in the heat of a battle, especially against a wide array of enemies.

>>3779376
*the greatest

Pardon my error, I believe it was because I was distracted by my calculus.

>>3779347
Of course not. I was completely serious.

>>3779379
Works for me. I get autistic as fuck about lining enemies up so my shots are never wasted, and I'll also use it to judge when I can switch to the shotgun to finish an enemy that normally needs a second SSG shot. Maybe it's not practical in slaughtermaps where you're being swarmed by massive hordes of enemies all the time, but in more sensibly designed maps I have no trouble keeping track of almost every enemy in any single encounter.

>>3779379
This is a necessary skill to be a top free-for-all deathmatch player. You keep track of which other players are at lower health, and thus you pick up as many cheap frags as possible.

>>3779403
>This is a necessary skill to be a top free-for-all deathmatch player.
the most worthless position i can possibly think of

>>3779438
I'm just repeating what I've heard from others. I'm shit at all forms of multiplayer, competitive or otherwise.

>>3779385
You are mistaking the concept of hipster with nerd.

Nerd does not have to be non-mainstream.

Besides only JJ Trek is mainstream, I'm sure there are a couple of hipsters who watched 60's trek because of big meme theory, but very few "normal" people have watched DS9 and Voyager, most of them haven't even watched more than a few sporadic episodes of TNG.

I definitely know more people who played Doom than people who watched 20's century trek, I can tell you that much.

>>3779452

Fuck, meant for >>3779347

>>3778737
Screw ingame screenshots, here's the project or something. It makes Doom harder kind of maybe. It's not done though.

>>3779190

>>3779480

RIP Samsara, too good for Zandronum

>>3779493
But it's still alive and kicking.

>>3779505
how long do we need to yell at kinsie for another update

>>3778134
So I'm playing Master Levels For DOOM II for the first time.

Is it just me, or are some of these levels cryptic as fuck?

>>3779526
Jim Flynn and Sverre Andre Kverno made a few maps in there, and they're known for making "puzzle" oriented maps. Both them also contributed to Eternal Doom, IIRC.

>>3779347
>Star Trek is way less nerdy

Err what? Star Trek, alongside DnD, used to be the stereotypical nerd interest.

>>3779589

commonly in US, yurop was always Warhammer stuff followed by Dr Who

>>3778138
Joy of Mapping 3 is live. Tell those newbie mappers how shit they are.

No but really; tell those newcomer mappers how to not be so bad

>>3779608
Welp, I know what I'm playing tonight.

Who thought that hitscan enemies would've been a good idea? Who the fuck approved TNT Evilution?

Newb here. Doing Scythe wad (the first one). UV pistol starts. This shit has gotten intense in the last 10 levels.

>>3779701

>>3779273
Pew Pew

>>3779760
hehe

>>3779760
No idea why the text is gone, but I found a physical copy of quake the other day for 5 bucks, it was a great find, does anyone know how to play it on the computer?

Playing it regularly plays it as an audio disc, which is cool in a way, playing it in msdos gives me this message

any clue lads?

>>3779701
>complaining about TNT evolution for being 'too hard'
damn.

>>3779768
https://www.dosbox.com/wiki/GAMES:Quake

this help you?

>>3779769
Rather because the map design is awful and it's not that hard even with all those fucking chaingun guys. And no revenants save for one level.

>>3779772
I love how this page is saying "just use a source port, dude"

>>3779774
>map design is awful
it's not, by any means. and if we couple that with your 'let me complain about this specific enemy type, but it's not hard at all for me I swear!' scapegoat, then your complains make no sense.

>>3779774
>the map design is awful
Nah.

>>3779808
There are types of difficulty. Hitscan spam is not really hard, just time consuming.

>>3779812
>just time consuming.

Save for the Mastermind (which is rarely used in the iwads), Hitscanners are the weakest enemies in the game. I find it hard to believe its "time consuming" having to deal with them.

>>3779812
you explicitly mentioned
>Who thought that hitscan enemies would've been a good idea?
which more than lets out you need to acquire fucking proficiency at killing things faster. I don't know how you can complain about hitscans bogging the game down when there aren't even that many to boot.

you're memeing aren't you?

>>3779810
t. Team TNT

>>3779815
Kill yourself projecting retard.

>>3779815
>you
not me
>>3779814
>Hitscanners are the weakest enemies in the game
Yeah but Plutonia (and TNT to a lesser extent) spam them to such a degree that they might as well be some of the strongest. Massed chaingunners drain HP like nothing else.

I must be going crazy because I don't ever recall finding TNT unfair with its hitscan usage. I barely ever recall there being overabundance of them, let alone dying to a chaingunner.
if I ever died then it was all on me for not paying attention, especially knowing final doom in general was hard as fuck to me back then.

>>3779820
>projecting
I don't think that word means what you think it means

TNT was the good Final Doom

>>3779820
>t. Team TNT
TeamTNT have not been active for nearly a decade, and the leader Ty Halderman hasn't even been alive for nearly 2 years.

Final Doom 4, a snapmap snappack priced at $19.99

>>3779774
>he throws a bitchfit when he sees more than two revenants in 2 maps

I wished more shitposters realized how most people find strawmen like this hilarious instead of getting angry over it.

>>3779824
>Yeah but Plutonia (and TNT to a lesser extent) spam them to such a degree that they might as well be some of the strongest. Massed chaingunners drain HP like nothing else.

So you're telling me this post was a lie? >>3779812
>There are types of difficulty. Hitscan spam is not really hard, just time consuming.

If only Trump put sanctions on Russia instead of just China, maybe we could get a Quake made in America.

The one fucking way he could have MAGA'd and he fucked it up.

>>3779827
>any complaint is due to things being hard and not annoying
As I said, kill yourself.

>>3779840
I never said anything about reventants save that they don't show up except for one level and I obviously meant to say archviles, not revenants.

>>3779851
lol bait more

>>3779850

that is possibly the most tenuous way i've seen trump connected to these threads yet

>>3779849
Nice reading comprehension. Strong is not hard. A baron that fires 9000 baron balls a second is certainly strong, but it's not that hard to avoid. Hitscan is time consuming because you have to break LOS to avoid it, but it's not that bad unless you've got 10 chaingunners firing at you at once with overlapping fields of fire that mean you're getting fukt regardless of your position unless you just take cover and take potshots.

I mean I know this is bait but try harder.

>>3779857
>overlapping fields of fire
lol

>>3779857
>A baron that fires 9000 baron balls a second
Are there any Doom based SHMUPs, that preferably don't need sourceports for working?

>>3779857
So, what constitutes as hard to you?

'i have skill I swear, it's just only balanced when I don't die'

>>3779869
Look buddo, if me a gamer with these skill can't not die, then mayhap it's not good a map?

>>3779857
>Hitscan is time consuming because you have to break LOS to avoid it

How on earth does that even count as "time consuming" that takes like, what, 2 seconds?

>>3779857
lol you're literally always breaking LOS with a hitscan regardless of quantity. TNT gives you plenty of cover even with its more open sections and plenty of ammo to fight back so it's up to you to die like a bitch.

>>3779867
A combination of enemies that test my ability to avoid their damage while allowing me sufficient freedom in engaging them. For example, there are some arachnotron turrets on raised platforms over a field with small obstacles in it. In the field there are a bunch of demons that rush to attack the player. Also the hallway leading up to the arena has some shotgunners and chaingunners aiming into it, and has lost souls spawn in as well once the player enters the main arena. The demons provide pressure to keep the player moving, while the arachnotrons can be used to kill the demons quicker if the player is skillful, or cause damage if they aren't. The hallway leading out has enemies that deliberately discourage fast play in it to punish the player for attempting to cheese the arena by using the entrance.

Or, you know, just use hitscanners in sane numbers from sane numbers of directions.
>>3779876
>>3779878
When massed it brings the flow to a screeching halt to deal with them. It's not that they kill anyone who isn't shit (or at least knows the map), it's that they take the normal run 'n' gun gameplay and force you to take cover or just plain get fucked.

>>3779873
ok so j havent seen your playstyle. I feel like seeing you eat cum so fucking post a video right now I need to laugh.

>>3779883
>playing final doom
>'run 'n' gun gameplay'
ok

>>3779884
Do you often watch men eat cum?

>>3779887
I mean if you can't run 'n' gun every bit of it without the chaingunners you might need to git gud. Even the archvile bits you can usually run through pretty easily, provided there's cover to duck behind for the last moment of the attack to avoid the damage.

>>3779884
>legit asshurt

>>3779890
I don't get how you can complain about chaingunners breaking the pace while archviles and their mechanics, coupled by their high resilience and chances of resurrecting every monster killed when left unattended, gets a pass.

it's not like TNT shoves them in your face without cover anyways. hitscan does have limit too you know.

>>3779883
>When massed it brings the flow to a screeching halt to deal with them. It's not that they kill anyone who isn't shit (or at least knows the map), it's that they take the normal run 'n' gun gameplay and force you to take cover or just plain get fucked.

This describes literally nothing about TNT, and only like one map in the entirety of plutonia.

>>3779891
>casually offsets request
goddamn you're easily upset.
okay now I know you fucking suck, thanks for the giggles

>>3779857
>overlapping fields of fire
I didn't know doom was rainbow six.

Should I just avoid using dynamic lights in GZDoom? Screenshot taken using GZDoom 2.3.2. In 2.2.0 it works fine.

>>3779941
looks awful

>>3779225
I think slaughtermaps tend to mar great visuals and level design with a slog of monsters that are boring to fight against.

Coming up with comlpex technical placement of monsters also feels like a lot of misplaced effort.

>>3779957
>Coming up with comlpex technical placement of monsters also feels like a lot of misplaced effort.

For slaughtermaps, not in general.

>>3779941
Post screenshot from 2.2.0?

>>3779225
I wish PrBoom+ would add MAPINFO support.

How is Demonsteele? Does it have its own maps and music?

>>3779701
people shooting guns at you should always be hard. Learn to take cover.

Hitscan is just a way of modeling firearms. using actual projectiles wont make a difference, you still can't dodge a bullet, especially when its supersonic and it hits you before you hear the sound of the gun being fired.

>>3779998
it's pretty neat, but doesn't play like doom at all

no maps

comes with its own jukebox, which is cool

>>3779998
It's fun, especially once you get the Iron Maiden.
Doesn't have maps, but has an optional pk3 for extra music.

>>3779985
It should look like this

>>3780012
Yep there's definitely something fucked up.
They removed the dynamic light sliders from settings in 2.3.2 so that might have something to do with it:
https://forum.drdteam.org/viewtopic.php?p=63928&sid=dccbdb2ba76e91a027be8e2e0f2e48fb#p63928

>>3780001
>>3780002
What map wad would you recommend playing with it?

Has anyone here play a wad where each level was based on a different videogame?
I remember one level had a futuristic base look and had Spark Mandrill's theme from Megaman X.
Other level was based on Castlevania: Circle of the Moon, its theme was Catacombs from the same game and the even the map looked like the map from the game (mostly squares)

>>3780023
scythe 2, brotherhood of ruin, or newgothic (if you have a powerful computer)

>>3780028
Vanguard?
https://www.doomworld.com/vb/wads-mods/55256-vanguard-wad-now-on-idgames/
https://doomwiki.org/wiki/Vanguard

Is there actually a way to run blood at 1280x1024 smoothly?

>>3780040
play it in real dos instead of dosbox

>>3780032
Close but no, this doesn't have the CotM and MMX stages.
Also it's pretty old, as the Castlevania level might suggest, around the GBA era.

>>3780031
Do any of these fit its aestethic theme?

>>3780046

didn't somebody talk about how their retro computer that exceeded blood's requirements still lagged like crazy at resolutions above 800x600

>>3780046
Damn the no sourceport blues,

the Brutal Doom guys should just make their own game and impliment whatever they want in it. First, they could make money. Second they'd have full control over it. Third, they would stop having debates about whether Brutal Doom is true to any original developer intent or not. They could just go nuts, and make it true to THEIR intent, and people could like or dislike it. They could call their game "Brutal". (If it's not taken).

I'm suprized they haven't done this yet.

https://twitter.com/jacehall/status/751611945292222464

>July 9th 2016

>>3780070
Which forum is this from

>>3780071

>#iLiveAgain

Is Carmack gonna have to choke a bitch again?

>>3780054
scythe 2's gothic levels do and newgothic does, if you play hae-lin

if you play shihong, traditional 90s techbases may work, such as equinox

Anyone got a link to Duke 3D? I forgot to move it to muh new PC when I shifted over.

>>3780083
>traditional 90s techbases
You mean wads from that timeframe?

>>3780018
I guess. After some more testing I noticed it occurs because I move them around with an ACS script with the warp function, as the lights illuminate correctly when they're in their initial position whatever it is. Were they never supposed to be moved like that?

>>3780110
I think it might be better (if possible) to just copy the light entities and have the second set initially disabled. Then you just switch the activation of both sets.

>>3780110
Check this thread, there's couple replies from Graf:
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=50651

>>3779526
That one map with four Icons Of Sin in a square room (but only one of them is real) is perhaps the least fun official map for Doom.

>>3778737
Trying to make the menu graphics as good as I can within vanilla limits.
Never liked Dooms words overtop of words thing. Looked messy imo. So I put black backboards on all the menus I could (save, load, and options weren't possible)
Pixel aspect ratio on the menu graphics are fucked in gzdoom, but fuckit.

>>3780130
Are you also editing the sliders in the player set up menu for source ports?

Cause I never found a way to do that.

>>3780134
I doubt it. I'm pretty much editing for straight vanilla and letting the rest fall where it may.

The only things I'm doing for the source ports are assets that were originally in vanilla, but were unused. Maybe I'll see what I can do after the important stuff is done though.

Probably will also change the "HELP" option into a "STORY" option, that has a little blurb on the story thus far. Since no one actually needs a help menu for this.

>>3779812
>take cover
>trick hitscanner to start massive infighting
>just shooting him because he's got maybe 80hp at most
Literally git gud

>>3779857
>unless you just take cover and take potshots
Then fucking do, if it's a tactic that works and lets you handle an encounter you would otherwise find difficult, then why don't you just fucking do that?

>>3779883
>the normal run 'n' gun gameplay and force you to take cover
HOLY SHIT! A MAP SET MIGHT BE DESIGNED WITH A SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT SORT OF GAMEPLAY IN MIND, WHAT THE FUCK IS UP WITH THAT? EAT SHIT TY YOU FUCKING FAGGOT, HOW DARE YOU DO THIS TO ME

>>3780018
>They removed the dynamic light sliders from settings in 2.3.2 so that might have something to do with it:
Grafh you fucking reprobate, letting you customize the dynamic lighting to your choosing can make or break your performance and frame rate in certain instances.

You fucking dumb German piece of shit, that's the worst fucking reasoning I've ever seen for taking out a feature.

>>3780130
That is one fine looking menu, REKKR guy

hey check this out

>>3780168
Thank you.

>>3780182
looks bad, what's this for

>>3780182
it doesn't look that bad but it does look cluttered, what's this for

>>3780130
Wrecker
fuck yes. And thats the one most people will be playing too so it makes perfect sense

>>3780190
>>3780191

>>3780194
still looks bad, what's this for

>>3780210
>>3780209

>>3780214
so are you going to give an answer or

>>3780218
It's that "anons_first_map.wad" with the barons and the lack of consistent lines and such. Stream of consciousness wad from a newbie.

>>3778193
Sikkmod with Wulfen and Monoxead's textures. Enable Doom 1/2 style movement, healthpack collecting and flashlight, maybe make the battery less lengthy in the options.

>>3780218
Check the past every-thread.

It's an h2h map

>>3779995
What for?

>>3780182
>>3780194
Protip: since you're using UDMF you could be using slopes.

Is there a weapon pack which would sort-of fit the atmosphere of Unloved? Something slightly horror-y.

>>3778737
I'm late to this but fuck it.

I need to figure out why the hammer doesn't shoot rocks when really close to monsters but I like this

>>3780279
Scratch that, is there a gzdoom compatible Blood weapon pack?

>>3780282
> kegan hammers his boner.webm

Quick question:
I'm using zandronum doomseeker for multiplayer. I just tried to start a server for deathmatch, but I got an error that said; 'W_GetNumForName: PLAYPAL not found!".
I found a thread on the zandronum forum saying that playpal is a pallette in the IWADS, and that I need to have a legitimate bought copy of the doom IWAD.
I downloaded my IWADS from the general's link list, will they not run? Why wouldn't copies from that dl link not have PLAYPAL?

>>3780343
Are your iwads in Zandronum folder? And where is your Zandronum installed?

>>3780282
>that ending

Can somebody post a link of how E1M1's music sounded like on DOS with a good sound card?

>>3780279
There's Shut Up And Bleed.

Though it has a lot of cool ideas and actually can make a lot of even stock maps scary, it's far from perfect (the gameplay balance is very 'crooked', so to say).

>>3780000
>you still can't dodge a bullet, especially when its supersonic and it hits you before you hear the sound of the gun being fired.
I dodged plenty of bullets in RO2. It's doable if the ping is low enough.

>>3780391
Someone pulling the trigger too soon/late or just missing isn't quite the same as dodging.

>>3780394
>peek from corner
>see muzzle flash
>release E
>bullet hits the wall right behind where I was standing
Happened plenty of times.

double jump effect totally not stolen from starbound

>>3780391
>I dodged plenty of bullets in RO2
Thats a game sonny. A game with pretty crap handling of firearms by the sound of it.

Doom 2 would be better if every enemy would be replaced by Chaingunner.

>>3780430
but you need enemy variety
tougher enemies = double chaingunners

>>3780431
>>3780430
Basically regressing the game to Wolfenstein 3D

>>3780147
>I like Doom being a cover shooter

>>3780268
So that mappers that want to keep things vanilla and boom for demo compatibility are no longer restricted on when they can use secret exits, tag 666/667, and story text. Would also doom 1 styled episode selection in doom 2 wads.

Wads like Valiant and Ancient Aliens, despite being compatible with prboom+, also have few mapinfo features used that only work on zdoom and eternity.

>>3780437
The beauty with Doom is that you can mix cover shooting and running and dodging and it is 100% viable.

Always have been too.

>>3780437
>Revenants exist
>Chaingunners exist
>d-dude Doom is like Serious Sam lmao xD

Doom was always a cover shooter and prototypical casual shooter for children it's Quake that was fast and took skill

>enemy spotted

>I always considered Doom to be our worst game.

John Romero

>>3780479
funny how he has done nothing of relevance, other than make a game that has become synonymous with failure and disappointment, oh and a few good levels for doom

though I guess it is very noble that he is willing to take care of his wife's son and now sells newgrounds-tier flash games on steam

>PC gaming is a joke

John Romero

where is doom_txt when you need him?

>>3780071
If its nlt the fucking source code or a sourceport i dont give a shit

>play megawad
>first 19 levels have enjoyable gameplay
>from 20 levels onward it's ''dude square arena with 30 Revenants lmao''

fuck this fanbase

>>3780479
Didn't he spend too much time playing Doom during Quake's development, though?

>>3780505
Scythe is weird, its fine until the 20th level when it turns to slaughtershit then it turns back into normal maps but then for the last map turns back into slaughtershit

>>3780507
>map20
End of episode boss map.

>>3780426
(kill yourself)

>>3780505
scythe is on the easy end of the spectrum when it comes to doom pwads, sorry. try turning down the difficulty to hmp or hntr if you're struggling.

>>3780507
scythe only has two slaughter maps (26 and 30) and only 3 maps with over 150 monsters on uv.

>>3780385
Ah shit, something with Unloved fucks with weapon packs

Good mod anyway, i'll try it out

Doom is easy as fuck
>dude play on UV lmao
>just more enemies
>don't even deal more damage

woah how challenging

Doom is a shit game all around

>>3780541
>Game difficulty is the only quality by which to judge a game

>>3780547
>it's ok for an action game to be boring as fuck

How is mapping with Trenchboom for Quake compared to Doom mapping? Currently considering using Darkplaces for a FPS-project.

>>3780553
>difficulty is the only thing that prevents any game from being boring

Welp, here go all the 90's shoters, except maybe Blood.

What the hell are you even doing in this thread then?

>>3780558
>What the hell are you even doing in this thread then?
Baiting you for replies.

>>3780541
I dunno, that sound MUCH better than simply turning enemies into beefy powerhouses.

>>3780559
Ok. Here's your (You)'s
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Happy now?

>>3780554


forget darkplaces for now, No one has managed to update that thing since havoc left it to work on Google

>https://icculus.org/twilight/darkplaces/files/

but he uploaded a beta update it this year

>>3780562
>doombabs can't deal with actual difficulty
>hurr I'm le hardcore gamer not like COD kids I play a game where most enemies die in three shots tops and that has automaim enabled ;)

xD

>>3780567

>>3780564
I'm not him. I'm just stating that you probably should stop giving him what he wants. Quit sperging.

OH FUCK DOOM HAS SUCH LARGE HORDES OF ENEMIES NOT LIKE NU-DOOM!

>>3780565
Oh.
I have been juggling options of Quake 1/2/3 (ioquake). Plus Serious Engine, but I have trouble setting it up ( plus tools don't work in 64bit? ).
Unity and UE4 I am averse though, since I want a demo-system and both have non-deterministic collision detection.
Plus I want mapping tools be available to players, as well.

>>3780567
Hardcore is a design style, not a difficulty setting.

weee

>>3780587
>Underdoom

Oh man.

>>3780580

try to speak with LordHavok, if hes still alive on QuakeOne forums.

if don't, mail him about that.

>>3780587
those monochrome walls are really offputting

>>3780595
Well, Ambient Occlusion is not improving upon it. Much.

Maybe it will look better once I get to the lighting part.

>>3780591
Still at preplanning-stage, I probably can produce a prototype even with older engine. But thanks, I'll keep that in mind.

>>3780587
Time to UV-max Undertale.

>>3780587
Oh god no, it's alive again

>>3780587
Put black lines on all corners.

>>3780607
You seem offended.

What are some cool maps which rely more on tricky enemy placement than hordes?

>>3780509
I dont remember the levels exactly sorry.

>>3780628
Swift Death?

Does anyone know what the best Quake 1 texture set in Doom is?

I've tried using Afterglow's version but it's a pain to navigate through the big Flat/Texture list. The Realm 667 version has Quake -style animated water textures, but everything is lumped together in the same directory and its even worse to find what you need. Plus, there's a lot of useless crap from the expansions.

Is there a texture rip out there that divides things back into the METAL, RUNIC, etc, sets?

>>3780587
Were you the anon wondering how to handle the 4th wall in your map conversion?

Have you considered using the unseen wall to expand the area a little? Maybe have a small lower area with some workbenches or a kitchen or something.

>>3780617
Not really, I'm more agitated

>>3780665
I'm not sure whether I'm the right one. I wanted to keep the map as close as possible to the original.

When you find all the secrets on a map but still haven't found the keykard

>>3780669
>that perspective
I always had the impression that Alphys' lab had an open top floor, like it could overlook the bottom.

>>3780679
That's what I thought as well. The first time I just had the conveyors be simple elevators. Then, the whole part was just a slope. The way I go about it now makes more sense I guess.

>>3780686
>>3780669
Your map is great so far, so needs that detail work. Can't wait to see the True Lab.

>>3780126
The movement wouldn't be as smooth and it would be harder to implement. In that case I prefer to use sector lights

SCREAM AND FEAR

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ja0SbZKGE8g

>>3780385
Not him but do you have any maps to recommend it with? I've done a few maps but shit's hard with even moderate-sized clumps of monsters

anons, I'm thinking of doing a megawad with maps from the unreal tournament series (obviously adapted for single player)

I'll probably do it for quake too

what do you think?

>>3780675
>being lost in any game and you find a room but it's just a secret and not the way you need to go to progress

>>3780720

that guy like mods

>>3780730
Just do it.

>>3780730
That sounds pretty sweet, I'd play it

>>3780730
How the hell do you adapt a confined and often symmetrical arena into a singleplayer level?

>>3780720
How can a man not see that this does not look good under any angle?

>>3780757

deathmatch levels are not symmetrical

anyway, I can use half of a CTF map

Why is COD so much cooler than Doom?

>>3780776
Still trying huh? You've been here all day. Just like me

Combined Arms sucks.

well, the Zenijews did it.

http://www.vrdb.com/news/zenimax-awarded-500-million-in-oculus-lawsuit

>>3780783
So is Oculus fucked?

>>3780789
Unless they appeal, yes.

I hope they do something spiteful, like pay the whole amount with truckloads of quarters.

>>3780789
Carmack is, at least he's trying to deny it like the cia & the htcVive fucked the oculus imo.

>>3778134
>doom shitters

Ranger could SHIT on Doomguy

I remember I played Quake 3 as Ranger against opponent who picked Doomguy and what a one sided match that was. He couldn't jump or aim upwards meanwhile I was rocket jumping around, taking my pants midair and taking a huge shit on his head he was crying in chat ''but muh rip and tear!'' as I was going 7/0 against him and I felt nothing but smugness on my 8th skill he disconnected and from that point onwards I never picked any other character than Ranger in case they can't rocket jump.

>>3780821

>>3780821
wowee zowee

>>3780817
>>3780821
you tried quakenigger

>>3780821
G, you sure do like SHIT.

I once picked Bones against a Doombab he rushed for railgun and quad wrote ''now you're fucked ;)'' in the chat I let him shot me at point blank and there it happened - it dealt 0 fucking damage.

You can't kill something that doesn't have internal organs, railgun shots just going through my ribs as I bunnyhop at him with my gauntlet

HUMILATION

HUMILATION

HUMILATION

he switched to shotgun, he tried plasma nothing worked because I'm already fucking dead there was no hope there was only a gauntlet handshake
>this game sucks in Doom shotgun kills everything and enemies attack once per hour!
I laughed in real life, wrote him the one and only message during our match ''welcome to Quake scrub'' and rekt him once more.

>>3780271
Slopes and me don't get along
they jump 30 feet up in the air and dont face in the right/anticipated direction

plus i don't feel like manually aligning 3000 slopes

Ever played with a Doombab? Lmao shit's hillarious
>typing IDDQD in all chat
>asking where do you turn autoaim on
>going 0/20 against bots

Doombabs are to gamers what special ed class is to rest of the students.

We're going to need a bigger hell gateway for all these shitposts.

My girlfriend introduced me to her ''special'' brother once, she called him and he sprinted towards me singing E1M1 music I asked
>what the fuck?
and he answered with
>UGH UGH
as he tried to push the wall
>yeah nice to meet you too

my girlfriend was embarassed and I said it's all right then we heard a scream the retard tried to enter the grill because he thought it's a portal to hell.

Doombabs are a danger to themselves and people around them.

So anyone know progress on BTSX3?

>>3780860
I scrapped the project because I realised Quake is a better game.

This is what happens when you faggots don't Oom.

We get a bigger faggot.

Duke Nukem is objectively better.

Doom 2 > Doom 3 > Doom 64 > Doom 2016 > Doom

Gimme them claustrophobic mapsets

>>3780865
What's the progress on Oom

>>3780863
>>3780821
>>3780817
>>3780810
>>3780776
>>3780841

fuck off

>>3780878
I scrapped it because I realised Quake is a better game.

>>3780878
Placeholder shit for jetpack chaingunner and atkins mancubus is there.

There is nothing better than nuts.wad.

>>3780821
>>3780841
>tfw doom babs will never the mouse precision required for quake 3 mp
>tfw doom babs can't play competitive mp in any form
>tfw all doom babs can do is kill imps in hmp e1

>>3780882
babby's first slaughterfest

if you can't slaughtermap you're a bad

Is Doom a mod for Minecraft?