/vr/ - Retro Games

=== NEWS ===

[Highway to Hell] First phase of mapping cut off, build to be released soon
>>/vr/thread/3740943#p3743242

[Til 4-1] QUMP is still going!
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Zlfb2U2VCeS70uS6Klc2ZEOC9KtnYyCyBXEmeetjh0c/edit

[Til 3-15] Dropbox will be dropping support of public folders in mid-March; now is a good time to mirror any Doom-relevant files available through this

[1-22] New IWADS link
http://www.mediafire.com/file/edy3dhdbp33pdg7/IWADS.zip
Forgot to replace the Yadisk link in OP with this. Sorry

[1-22] New Smooth Doom version out.
http://www.mediafire.com/file/mkkqiypo8q4hm88/SmoothDoom.pk3

[1-19] SLADE v3.1.1.5 released
http://slade.mancubus.net/index.php?page=downloads
http://slade.mancubus.net/index.php?page=changes&v=3.1.1.5

[1-17] Circle of Demons mod trailer
[YouTube] Circles Of Demons Trailer (embed)

[1-16] Anon map pack 'Disjunction' beta 2 released
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1NxOZlEf5aNNGgwVG9SaDdjS28/view?usp=sharing

[1-15] BloodCM dev working on a sourceport called gdxBlood
[YouTube] gdxBlood - Java port of Blood#4 (embed)

[1-15] A maintenance fork of GZDoomBuilder is released
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=44&t=54957

[1-15] Turok source code found!
[YouTube] Turok: Dinosaur Hunter Source Code Discovered! (embed)
[YouTube] Acclaim Entertainment SGI Indy / Turok Source Code - Update (embed)

[1-14] D4T, a simplified fork of D4D compatible with Zandronum 3.0 and D-Touch, is released
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=54750

[1-14] First release candidate for Trenchboom 2.0.0 available!
https://github.com/kduske/TrenchBroom/releases/tag/v2.0.0-RC1

[1-11] sock releases a new map for Arcane Dimensions
http://celephais.net/board/view_thread.php?id=61398


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PROTIP: If you would like to submit any news or your personal map or mod releases here, please reply/backlink to this post.

>>3757597
I am not sorry.

>>3757626
you'll be sorry when i escalate it to 20 proxies

Are there any mapsets that have the same kind of atmosphere as Nihility has? I like how desolate and alone it felt.

crosspost >>3757585

What the fuck was his problem?

>Want to learn programming beyond making console applications that do simple shit or back end database shit.
>Decide to download Quake 1's source.
>Realize I'm completely lost when dealing with stuff beyond data structures.

Does anyone have a guide on how to compile the original Quake? I think if I could at least just get it built once, I could start modifying sections here and there to see what I could do.

>>3757752
Probably not best way to learn programming, since the source has aged quite a bit. As for compiling, I'd imagine you'd have to download old compiler used and run it in DOSBox/Virtual Machine.

>>3757585
>Mars Operation
My memory failed me with the name of the wad, but the link is: https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom2/Ports/m-o/marspr9c
>Osiris
https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom2/m-o/osiris

>>3757921
The game or the mapset? The latter is a favorite of mine despite the sometimes questionable gameplay because the atmosphere is so good, but I wouldn't play the former if I was paid money because I loathe procedurally generated maps in FPS games

>>3757925
I really wish BlueEagle had just finished his work with Unloved 2 instead of dropping it for the Unloved game. Procedurally generated maps or not, it's not a very good game.

>>3757631
that's a cute shambler

Vinny of Vinesauce played some more "weird" Doom Wads:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=capPbc02zh0

Here's a list:

InstaDoom - DOOM Selfie Stick Mod
Run For It!
Impatience
MIDI Doom
Error: Doom
Hate Busters
Wobbly Shader
Last Chance
ACS Arcade
Glitch Land
Surreal Killer
Nature's Call
Dun Did it
Shotguns: Shotguns shotguns. Shotguns. Shotguns shotguns, Shotguns? Shotguns. Shotguns...
Total Chaos
A Boy and His Barrel
Aracnocide
The Crystal Maze

Is this a good thread to ask why the hell I seem to be incapable of bhopping? I already know what I'm supposed to do:
>Don't hold W
>Use A/D and look the left and right when jumping
>Use scroll wheel to jump for better timing
I've been trying on-and-off for at least a couple years now and it's just not working. Whenever I rocket/grenade/tau jump I just lose all momentum the instant I touch the ground.

>>3758004
You loose momentum if the change in the movement vector is too sharp - you have to turn in curves and plan your bunnyhops at least 2-3 hops ahead.

How many of actually own Doom on its original floppies?

>>3758034
I don't generally post in these threads because I haven't played Doom in almost 20 years now, but I actually do have a box of old ass shareware floppies that has Doom and Doom 2 in it somewhere.

>>3758034
Was not possible to get floppies in my country. Came preinstalled on my first IBM PC (in '95), along with Doom 2 and Heretic

>>3757751
Didn't punch enough Nazis.

>>3758034
I have official Doom 2 floppies. One of them's dead though so the whole set is useless.

>>3758034
I just own the cd of Doom 2 for Windows 95.

And Quake. I lost the manuals and the boxes. Fuck.

What did gzdoom 2.3 break again? I'm using it and everything seems to work fine.

>>3758034
I dont even have the pile of generic brand floppy disks with handwritten labels my classmate lent to me so that I could install the game onto my computer, as I returned them to him in a timely manner as courtesy dictates.

>>3757618
Nice gif of Master Chief, op

>>3758118
>share stuff between mates on floppies
>buy a pack of new floppies
>they have metal shutters
>think nothing of it
>at my mates, just copied some stuff
>press a buttan to get floppy back
>it comes out halfway
>pull it
>shutter stays in FDD
>my anus clenches
>look at my mate
>he looks at me with hatred
>moment of silence that dragged on forever
>his outburst
I ended up paying for his new FDD, nearly shat myself there, but those were good, simple times

Repeating my question from the hotpocketed thread.
How do I get into Quake mapping dudes? Even with Trenchbroom the entire process seems so much more technical and involved than Doom mapping.

>>3758138
That's just how it is. You have to always think 3D when designing levels in Quake. I'd recommend doing simple layouts with monsters and with next to no detailing first to get a grasp of things.

>>3758034
im thinking of buying a doom 1 and x-com floppy just for shits and to have something physical

>>3758129
cry more

>>3758129

there's a raccoon going through your trash and spreading it across the lawn term

On another note, I wonder if we'll start seeing more and more total conversions and indie games in GZDoom with the the rapid improvements in scripting, lighting effects and model support we're seeing lately.

>>3758202
>there's a raccoon going through your trash and spreading it across the lawn term

He's a real strange li'l fellow, ain't he.
Such are the perils of making code open-source for everyone to tweak, I suppose. Strange people get a hold of it.

>>3758231
>>3758202
i wonder if carmack ever looked on a mod someone made for doom and just cringed

>>3758231
Really curious about his supposed collaboration with codeimp desu

>>3758237
carmack flexed his cerebral lobe and willed the mod out of existence, like he tried to do with bunnyhopping

>>3758240
>like he tried to do with bunnyhopping
It's funny he was against it despite the movement physics being a huge part of what people like about quake. The developers of the tribes series did the exact opposite when they included skiing as an explicit keybind and made it part of the tutorial in Tribes 2 despite it being an unintended feature in the first game.

>>3758240

I'm guessing it had about as much success as when he tried it with bunnyhopping, too.

>>3758004
in what game?

>>3758257
Figuring out shit. Player gets everything at go, but absolutely no health, no armour, no ammo beyond start.

The map will be kinda easy compared to map09 anyway...

>>3758239

>his supposed collaboration

Considering that sperg interpreted Term saying "anybody can use this as a base" as "TERM GAVE SPECIAL SNOWFLAKE PERMISSION JUST FOR ME!", I'd say there's a high probability of it being total bullshit.

>>3758279
You mean "absolute likelyhood"

>>3758274
Aww no berserk

>>3758274
>everything_at_go_no_refills
was I put on this earth just to suffer?

>>3758356
We all are.

I made a thing that changes all the hitscan rays in Doom into extremely small fastprojectile tracer bullets, but for some reason it seems like every single enemy is now way more accurate. I assume this is because of the size of the projectiles vs the infinitely thin hitscan rays, but I haven't found a way yet to mitigate the effect. Has anyone else done this and found a way to make it not enhance hitscan accuracy?

>>3758372
Could be a wide, wide, wide variety of factors.

Post the code you've got, please?

Floatrand, dude, bro, next time you've got a stream going post it. Your mapping is great.

https://www.twitch.tv/floatrand

>>3758372

are you using frandom or random for angle & pitch deviation?

>>3758378
POSS F 3 Bright A_CustomMissile("ZManShot",32.0,0, frandom(-11.3,11.3))
As an example for a bullet attack
ACTOR BulletBase : FastProjectile
{
Projectile
+DONTSPLASH
Damage 0
Radius 1
Height 2
Speed 80
RenderStyle Add
States
{
Spawn:
TRAC A 1
//TNT1 A 1
Loop
Death:
Stop
XDeath:
TNT1 A 0
Stop
}
}
For the tracer. There's the tracer MD3 that everyone seems to have attached to it.
>>3758393
frandom

why does doomguy look so much like halo

>>3758404
First: I think radius has to be 2 as well but I'm not sure. It might fly through 0-width walls otherwise.

>For the tracer. There's the tracer MD3 that everyone seems to have attached to it.
Can I suggest this instead?
>http://wikisend.com/download/930180/1mubeam.md3
It's exactly one map unit tall and wide and points straight down, so you can use your modeldef lump to scale it to the exact dimensions you want. Tilt it 90 degrees forward or backward as you wish - either may be preferable depending on use. This is the model I use for all beams and tracers because it gives more control.

>>3758404

try fooling around with frandoms inside an frandompick.

>>3758404

also, put in some pitch deviation

https://zdoom.org/wiki/A_CustomMissile

Make sure to use the CMF_OFFSETPITCH flag.

>>3758404
Did you alter the delay between the call of A_FaceTarget and A_CustomMissile?Decreasing that would make the guy more accurate against moving targets.

>>3758417
>looks like halo
where do you see the pillar of autumn or the entire UNSC army in his body

also how is halo's sci-fi aesthetic any bad, and how can doomguy look like master chief when he was a ripoff of doomguy to boot

>>3758442
>also how is halo's sci-fi aesthetic any bad
Halo has a pretty boring and cookie-cutter style imho. Not bad per se though.

>>3758442
quit being so defensive over a joke

>>3758447
I'm just asking a question

nothing to do with your bland joke

So this is the power of MAPPING

This tower looks bit goofy, perhaps.
Maybe it should be bit thicker.

Outdoors structures are such a pain when ceiling is so high.

So, for my next map, I'm thinking something small.

It will either be an Auraxis base, an abandoned NOD base, or a Madness Combat base.

Git goin' with selection

>>3758589
Would have to see it in motion.

>>3758589
good shit

>>3758596
you select it.

>>3758589
This looks like part of the underground in Paper Mario TTYD.

>>3757751
*sprite rotates off into space*

>>3758609
>choosing nothing and responding anyway
fuck off

>>3758643
how the fuck were you supposed to know to shoot the glass

how the fuck does a box kill you. these clearly aren't heavy boxes.

>>3758650
>how the fuck were you supposed to know to shoot the glass
The boxes damage the glass too

>how the fuck does a box kill you. these clearly aren't heavy boxes.
You only have 1% HP

>>3758656
In the quintessential means, however.

It's a fucking box.
WOW.

so actiondoomguy could be killed by breathing on him funny?

>>3758598
https://my.mixtape.moe/jenzxy.webm

Still work in progress.
But should get it done this week/end. Hopefully release RC, then fuck off to Berlin for a week, and get back to fix everything broken.

>>3758659
If it registers as damage then ActionDoomguy would die

Probably even laughing too hard would kill him

>>3758662
>https://my.mixtape.moe/jenzxy.webm
Looks okay to me. Maybe a bit more detailing on the sides of it or more than just the one tower (even if it's inaccessible off in the distance), but that's just my thoughts.

>>3758668
oh boy

>>3758668
I wonder if he'd die if he picked up a 0x7FFFFFFF heal medkit

>>3758596

You select it.

>>3758609
>>3758697
>give others the selection of the map they'd like to see in a narrowing down of selection because you don't know what to go with
>HURR DOOR PICK IT URSELF
fucking mongoloids

>>3758721
You select it.

>>3758721
You select it.

>>3758721
you select it

>>3758596
>Madness Combat base
You mean, as in this Madness.
If so, yes please, go for it, right now.

>>3758729
Thank you. Somebody with braincells to rub together

Have an alternative cacodemon art

i was talking to an e-friend of mine about this thread and how shit it is and how shit doom is in general, and he told me i should play some mod (or something?) called brutal doom. am i being baited? should I select that

>>3758757

who the hell says e-friend

>>3758770
an e-diot

>>3758757
Gonna have to correct him here, I'd insist that Reelism is the true way that Doom is meant to be played.

So i found a video that proves halo's mister chef could beat doom kid in a fight, what do you guys think, seems pretty solid to me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vm_MFauHzdo

>>3758778
master chief doesn't compare to ness

>>3758778
how could master chief lose. he has all this high tech armor and weaponry and stuff and doesn't even afraid of anything

Oops looks like some clumsy janitor accidentally deleted my post, because im sure a janitor abusing his power is not something that happens round here, especially in a rule breaking circle jerk thread that is being posted on the wrong board to begin with.

Anyway as I was saying, its been proven Halo is stronger than doomguy and can beat him in a fight easily.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vm_MFauHzdo

Video makers use facts and evidence, its official, Halo > doom

Why hasn't this been adapted in a modern Doom game? Modern being Doom 3 and beyond.

>>3758778
>>3758835

What a bunch of alternative facts

>>3758835
>posts bait
>complains when it gets removed

Are there any other maps with an aesthetic similar to monster hunter ltd? Like dark urban or industrial with loads of custom textures.

>>3758835
stop posting off topic shit. old school fps characters have nothing to do with old school fps games. and who cares if this is a thread that belongs on /vg/ and (very obviously now) has janny staff off topic circle jerking in it rofl

Where do i report janitor abuse too?


also
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vm_MFauHzdo

>>3758778
>>3758835
>>3758864

third time's the charm, right

How did i end up on /vg/ i clicked on /vr/?

>>3758836
there is one Arachnotron coming to a Doom 3 mod, search for the phobos mod, also there is a sort of Spider Mastermind model already done as a mod in D3, too bad it has a retarded sound effect, dunno what was going on in the head of the dude who picked those sound effects.
also why haven't the mods banned this guy already? he just shitposts on purpose, they can check the archives and see how much of a faggot he is. Sometimes i think he's doomkartguy, remember how he used to shitpost in the threads when he was called out of his faggotry?
>>3758864
you're free to complain to hiroshimoot, but remember, GR6
>The quality of posts is extremely important to this community.

>>3758874
You can stop now.

>>3758878
>The quality of posts is extremely important to this community.
unless you are part of the moderation team in which case you are free to shitpost all you like
xoxo

>>3758904
>unless you are part of the moderation team in which case you are free to shitpost all you like
xoxo
GR8.
>Complaining about 4chan (its policies, moderation, etc) on the imageboards may result in post deletion and a ban.

Janitor Abuse General?

Seriously, why is this guy still trying to bite at ankles?

Nevadean underway.

>>3758910
>/vg/ - Video Game Generals

>This board is for the posting of video game "general" threads, which are long-term, recurring threads about a specific topic.

http://www.4chan.org/rules#vg

>>3758936
How bored are you tonight?

>>3758936
How based are you tonight?

>>3758936
wew lad, you seem to forgot moot said it was fine for the doom thread to have his general here.

>>3758941
>Rules only count when they are beneficial to me

>>3758946
See >>3758943, newfaggot.

>am I le epic trool guys? pls be mad :(

>>3758954
Who drew that thing anyway?

>>3758964
Might of been two.

>>3758958
You should get some cream for that butthurt mate It looks nasty.

>>3758958
>i'm n-n-nuh-nuh-not even m-mad.
>now hold on while I delete half the thread

>>3758958
>>3758979

do you really have nothing better to do tonight

>>3758972
how does pain and uncomfortableness in a part of the human body look nasty?

>>3758034
I've got Doom 1 and Hexen. Also have the ID Master Levels around somewhere.

Not sure where Doom 2 got off to.

Holy shit, who's even sperging out this much?

Alright, back to topic, what are some wads that use a lot of blue textures? i saw in youtube one wad which used many purple-looking textures, i'd like to know if you guys know of anything similar but with blue textures.

>>3759000
swim with the whales
ancient AyyLmaos

Brutal Doom is an okay mod and I have fun playing it. I hear Sgt. Mark is a mean guy but I hope he overcomes his meanness and becomes a nice person. I look forward to trying out all the different mods that people make because everyone has something to contribute.

Doom is pretty great if you ask me, with or without mods. Good night all, I better get to bed so I can get a good night's rest.

>>3759005
>spoiler breaks and ruins the god-awful joke
thanks 4chin

>>3759000
swim with the whales

>>3759007
Goodnight, anon.

>>3759007
goodnight anon there's nothing under your bed

Thoughts on Demon Eclipse?

I still have that old compiled wad/pk3 that i hosted for a while there on zand that seemed to be the most "complete" before development was canned and restarted countless times.

>>3759050
It's dead out of 10

>>3759050

I've heard rumors but never actually played it.
Would you mind sharing it?

>>3759061
i'm not sure i'm allowed.

a lot of resources come out of this sucker.

giveall yourself sometime; some of the weapons are inaccessable.

>>3759063
>i'm not sure i'm allowed.
eriance has completely abandoned the project, it's fine

Do we still have the skulltag servers? I miss staving off the demonic horde with you fellas. We always hosted some great maps there.

>>3759063
fuck it
http://www.mediafire.com/file/c7zc7elb17s9x9q/demoneclipse%282%29.pk3
may the ancients be awakened

>>3759078
>skulltag
Anon, save those desperate souls and direct them to Z&ronum

>>3759085
Thanks, anon.

>>3759098
glad to not-wingwong you.

deathmatch going on frag eachother

Are the puzzles in Hexen 2 just as frustrating as the original?

96.126.115.61:18019

an invasion zandro server that's not complex doom

cool

>>3759143
I honestly recall having a bitch of a time in the early part, so probably.

>>3759143
My progress keeps randomly breaking at the shovel part (I've played through the game as all the classes except the Assassin so far) because I apparently did the flag triggers in the "wrong" order or something, I end up having to noclip into the treasury.
Also later on the Egypt area's really annoying and unintuitive.

>>3759143
They are even worse.

>>3759174
>Egypt and it's time travel bullshit
>And the urns shit
>Fucking Greece
I hate Hexen 2

>>3758420
>>3758421
>>3758429
>>3758434
Apparently my post never went through. Thanks for the suggestions, trying them out now.

You have 5 seconds to post the map you're working on/playing on

>>3759150
Joined and had fun. Good old Invasion, always good to chill out and blast monsters even if some of those things were bullshit. On top of that it was a invasion set I hadn't seen before.

>>3757621

Boy, the New Year's start has been a little rocky, huh? A lot of folks were having trouble getting things going, and a lot of work turned in was either pretty unfinished or unfinishable.
Still, the first phase is done.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/o43pohrzhyzusiq/HighwayToHell_test1.pk3?dl=1
The first testbuild of Highway to Hell is released! 11 first-drafts of my_first_zdoom_map.wad, glorious in the way only a train wreck could be, unfinished and unpolished but playable from start to end, either continuous or pistolstart.

For everyone involved in the project, please play through all of the maps and give vague thoughts on what you liked about all of the maps. Even for folks who aren't involved in the project, feedback and comments would be wonderful. The only way to improve things is if we know what's wrong, so point out as many issues or be as nitpicky as you'd like.

The second phase of mapping will start on January 30th and continue until February 28th, allowing for a full month for people to polish up their maps, detail and decorate, or make more maps--or for people who missed the first phase to join in.

https://hastebin.com/raw/lujumozose - For folks interested, here's my own thoughts on the maps.

>>3759223
>https://hastebin.com/raw/lujumozose
Oh boy. Now I can look through this here and have a slightly less shit map!

>>3759223
>or for people who missed the first phase to join in.

Hell yeah, I thought I missed my chance to make something for this project.

>>3759223
i am far too unreasonably excited to be playing unfinished crappy zdoom maps

>>3759223
Someday I will make a map for one of these community projects.


Someday...

>For the v20c release, I was planning to release a new campaign along it, Extermination Day (the finished version of "Hell On Earth Starter Pack"), featuring 34 levels, destructible environments, cutscenes, and a lot of stuff.
>cutscenes
>CUTSCENES

>>3759247
unacceptable

>>3759240
Make it today, anon!

meanwhile in mapper's block land: inability to commit to a single map

>>3758130
Happened to me on a few occasions. You could easily disassemble the floppy nad remove the part that was left in there.

In my school, one of the floppies died because a cocroach decided it was a good place to nap, and was crushed by a diskette, then had his remains scattered across FDD innards.

Nothing beats a cheapo CD-R that literally melted during burning process, covering the CD-R Drive insides in droplets of melted plastic though. Burning animes early 2000's was a royal pain.

>>3759223
knee-jerk impressions as i go

>map01
>best story
>so is this map like this because you're just startan out?
>my_house.wad, clever

>map02
>lighting is cool but overdone
>work on texture alignment, use new textures on angles to break things up, e1 in doom abused this a lot
>half of this level can be cut, link the bigger sections and cut out the corridors in between
>grate bridge hurts you
>nothing stopping the player from whizzing out after picking up the gas can. opening up monster closets is predictable.

>map03
>punching out the gate is cute
>enemies are very scarce, needs a lot more enemies
>nothing indicating this gate needs a blue key
>same with red door
>can crouchjump into blue key room
>had to read previous comment to see "blue key door"

>map04
>almost missed the truck sinking
>nothing is happening
>design is cool
>if you miss the gas tank, dropping off the edge renders the level unwinnable since you can't jump back up
>PLATFORMING IN DOOM YAY
>widen up the platforms, please
>also add more enemies
>south part of the middle shrine has a floor HOM

>map05
>great start, slows down very quickly
>fireblu bathroom is amazing
>very easy to miss the chaingun
>anon ran out of ideas very fast
>shame, it's otherwise a fun map

>map06
>no comments, fun map

>map07
>lots of action, constantly running and shooting, very fun
>design is bare, obviously
>i like that everything is interconnected

>map08
>very vertical design, i like it a lot
>nothing keeping you from just running past a lot of enemies
>starting to get really tired of shotgun/chaingun
>map seems to agree and gives me cell/rocket ammo
>but without either it seems ????

>map09
>holy shit

>map10
>looks like ass but plays fun
>work a lot on texture placement and positioning, wall textures should not be used for floors
>put a radsuit in the sewers
>nothing stopping the player from just running past all of the enemies on leaving the map

>map11
>holy shit mk 2

>>3759223
Half of these maps are sorcery.

>>3759223
Pretty nice stuff! I died a few times while going to map09 where I stopped, though some of it was because I was rushing. The first map proper seems a bit huge for a first map, hopefully a few simpler, smaller maps could go before it because it has both a berserk and a chainsaw.

>>3759261
Clinical depression sucks.

>>3758247
Bunnyhopping got explicitly more pronounced in Q3 though. so I guess he got over and embraced it.

>>3759289
It's probably more mental impairment.

It's like I'm really playing Zdaemon!

>>3758589
>https://my.mixtape.moe/jenzxy.webm

Please make sure to add some sound cullers to prevent whole map getting agitated over your very first shot. Imps firing their balls at you across 3-km maps is not fun.

>>3759295
Graeme Devine headed up gameplay design on Quake 3.

Granted, I'm sure Carmack had his say, but Devine was the guy who'd spend all night arguing for or against tweaks to individual Shotgun pellet damage values.

>>3759247
Well, proves that Mark doesen't get what makes Doom great at all.

have another

>>3759261
i am not certain which of these three to work with.

they're "map that the guy spams almost every threat"
"skullking"
and obviously the madness combat themed one.

>>3759085
Can not download from link - it keeps redirecting me on itself when I press "download". I can download any other mediafire link just fine. WTF? Can you please reupload to something else, like MEGA?

>>3759247
i wonder how many levels he'll pull from freedoom this time around

>>3759321
Im quite sure that would simply be starter pack with more of his older levels, a bit re-touched maybe.

>>3759320
i'll try dropbox sir
https://www.dropbox.com/s/4kfcj9qimerhmkk/demoneclipse.pk3?dl=0

have another now better

>>3759261 (You)
i am not certain which of these three to work with.

they're "map that the guy spams almost every threat"
"skullking"
and obviously the madness combat themed one.

>>3759327
thread even

>>3759223
01 - Should be a decent starter once detailed.
02 - Dick move bro. Brightly colored sector lighting/fade looks really shitty in ZDoom.
03 - Can't pinpoint where but my framerate drops to shit when I look at a certain part of the map. Love the theme.
04 - I can get in the car at the start of the level. Love Cthulhu looking stuff, guessing this'll be longer.
05 - This is mine, I've started working on something else.
06 - Nothing constructive to add. Does what it does. Fun to play.
07 - Really fun. Not a fan of the chaingunner behind the yellow fence thing since you don't notice him until you're already taking damage and then he's too far away to hear.
08 - Awesome but I'm getting sniped by a chaingunner again and that isn't fun regardless of the quality of the map it's in.
09 - Oh hey this map made it in, I was looking forward to playing this one. Finally, a rocket launcher. Something about the bridge is a bit fucked up and rockets collide with something under it.
10 - Gee I miss those rockets I dumped into the bridge already. Questionable chaingunner placement again. Hectic, but I feel like my arsenal should be a bit bigger at the start of this one.
11 - Those midtex vines at the start need to be attached to complete sectors instead of just lines, just drawing lines like that makes things go invisible at certain angles.

>>3759342
That's self-referencing sector I used to make bridge. In Boom-source ports ( originally map was made for Boom ) it works as intended, but in ZDoom...

It is weird compability thing. I will have to replace it with a proper 3d object.

>>3759346
Setting the bridge lines to "Walkable middle texture" in UDMF will do it.

>>3758954
What's the significance of Garrett stealing from Goldeneye?

sum moar progress; Arch Vile now has a "workable" animation rig still need adjust bone weights and figure out how to do normal maps properly

>>3759365

Holy shit!

Make sure to post them in any Doom forums anytime. Looking good so far!

>>3759223
Wait, my map(UAC's 'Gasoline 666') base didn't make it? Fuuuuuck. And here I thought I made it in time for the 1st build.

https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=55061

Final Doomer is done now

>>3759384
Actually, it seems I was wrong and I made it. Yaaay!

>>3759387
>More Sgt Shivers stuff

noice

>>3759387
Kinda funky weaponset but not bad

Why is Doom 2 treated as anything more than a terrible sequel? There are no noticeable graphical improvements, the new enemies range from a chore to fight like the chaingunners, archviles and pain elementals to just plain lazy like the arachnotron and hell knights.
The level design is far worse where in Doom you would always find a key card near the door it was used for but in Doom 2 the key card would be on the opposite side of the map and thanks to the developer's obsession with open maps and multiple buildings you would often have no idea where the door even is. This was when they were even bothering to make a good level and not some gimmick like barrels of fun or Gotcha.
The only new weapon is a slightly stronger shotgun instead of something useful like a better melee option than the shitty chainsaw.
The difficulty balance is completely over the top where playing on Ultraviolence or Nightmare means crowds of enemies standing on every available inch of the map which doesn't make the game harder just more tedious. (I went straight from Thy Flesh Consumed UltraViolence to Doom 2 UltraViolence and it was a noticeable increase in monster spam.)

Doom featured a simple series of levels that culminated in an increasingly difficult set of boss fights. Doom 2 takes those Bosses, the CyberDemon and Spider Mastermind and cheapens any impact they had by using them over and over again as mid level obstacles. The only new boss in the whole game is a fucking wall texture.
I see a lot of justified hate for endless monster gauntlets of the Plutonia Experiment but why does the Doom community gives Doom 2 a pass when its such a lazy cash in?

>>3759407
At the time it was more Doom

>>3759409
This. People wanted more official Doom levels.

>>3758537
the power of no limit mapping, thank you carmack for source codes

>>3759407
>The only new weapon is a slightly stronger shotgun instead of something useful
Stopped reading there.

>>3759407
Arachnotron is so bad that without changing the sprite considerably I can't even figure out how to alter its behavior to make it less shit. However I do think the chaingunners provided a needed element in a suppression enemy, and the Mancubus/Revenant are also good additions to the monster roster. The SSG is OP as all fucking shit however, and the fact that nearly every level involves SSG spam into hordes of enemies really kills the pacing. Overall if Doom is a 9/10 or 10/10, Doom 2 is more like a 7/10 or 6/10 if you hate the more annoying enemies more than I do. It's still a decent game but it can't hold a candle to the original.

>>3759423
I mean not useful as in its only use is crowd control which the rocket launcher already exists for. It doesn't fill a niche of its own making it a poor addition.

>>3759430
Oh my man you are using it WROOONG. It basically outclasses everything up to the plasma rifle. Up close the combined shots can do more than a rocket, far away it can take down whole groups, and the ammo is everywhere.

>>3759407

I disagree in regards of the monsters, I fucking love them. Some of them are definitely used abusively by some matters, but when used well, having to fight a room of enemies with a couple well placed arch-viles is a thrilling thing. Navigating an enemy encounter while dodging revenant fireballs can also be pretty damn fun.

I even like the SSG even if it's a bit OP, I would've liked more weapons that would maybe compliment the SSG ? It's basically an upgrade to the old shotty, they should also have included an upgrade to the chaingun.

As for the level design... Yeahhhh... It's pretty bad overall.
I dont necessarily mind the icon of sin, but I kinda wish we would've gotten an actual new boss monster or two somewhere...

tl-dr : I like the new monsters

>>3759365
Iiii think his llimbs are a bit too long; the body's all squished into the top of the sprite. Also archviles aren't taller than barons.

>>3759407
The new enemies and monsters were welcome addition. The new monsters sort of make design of monsters more complete, and SSG is cool weapon ( although OP and kinda makes regular shotgun kinda worthless in comparison ).

Maps are terrible, though.

>>3759434
>Up close the combined shots can do more than a rocket

>>3759448
It literally has higher max damage with good rolls. Very slightly lower average damage up close.

>>3759407
Doom 2 is literally always treated as terrible sequel. WTF are you smoking.

It is however used as a base for maps more often due to increased enemy roster and SSG.

>>3759387
>>3759394

>explicitly using outdated cringeworthy memes in a mod

Literally WHY.

>>3759387
Having bit problems with the mod. All weapons seem to be the Plutonia-guy's weapons and IDFA/IDKFA gives me jackshit outside of max charges for BFG.

Version is gzdoom-g2.4pre-219-g4dc1d11

>>3759461
oh no not outdated memes
I'm sorry you've been so bothered by me writing down whatever random crap came to mind

>>3759464
The weapons are tied to three different classes, choose another playerclass. And IDFA/IDKFA do not work because crime.

>>3759467
No, all classes default to same weapon set. Seems to be only problem in dev-build, since I downloaded stable release and everything works.

>>3759461

Why do you care ? It's just options. Is the rest of the mod good ?

Btw wasnt the mod balanced for Final Doom ?

>>3759451
literally

>>3759469
Ah, I guess the weird CheckClass shit I did was broken in that version or something. WHO KNOWS~? gzdoom.png

>>3759470
A little bit, I tended to try and make the weapons feel useful for the bulk of encounters in Final Doom, but for the most part the weapons are just balanced against all the other weapons in some strange web of network balancing and i don't even know help im trapped in a balance factory

>>3759365
>>3759440

Also make sure to normalize the tones/lighting a bit so it doesn't stand out as too dark (or too bright) in comparison to other monsters.

One more thing. Try to imagine what the most common distance to your enemy is. You know, how far is a monster from the player usually. Pick the FOV that the game uses, and render the monster sprite using that FOV in the render camera, and the distance that best fits. That way your new monster sprite will have appropriate perspective correction. If you don't do this, the monster might end up being distorted by a fisheye effect or flattened by being too ortographic.

>>3759489
>render the monster sprite using that FOV in the render camera

Correction: Set the distance using the game's FOV. The FOV of the render camera is only used for zooming and framing the target for the final render resolution.

>>3759473
the left graph is correct but the axis labels are wrong

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>>3759223
OK, finarry finished playing all the maps. But before writing feedback to them, I must note something. Losing gasoline can on death is a bad idea, it makes maps impossible to finish, if you die and resurrect yourself.

>>3759497
>the map breaks when you cheat
It's done this way for a reason, if you wanted to respawn after dying then do solonet.

resurrect breaks a huge amount of mods, and it'll break this too. Don't use it.

>>3759302
Whoops! Looks like fog density decided to be uncooperative. Gotta fix it for the next build!

>>3759501
Dunno, the mods I play, don't break after using resurrect. What kind of mods you play that make it happen?

>>3759503
the kind of mods graf zahl plays

>>3759502
Isn't fogdensity a GL-only mapinfo property?
Ergo, it wouldn't take effect in software, which this map set supports?

>>3759503
Generally any that run constant scripts on the player, pretty much. Scripts like that will usually turn themselves back on on respawn but of course you aren't respawning, are you?

>>3759505
What does he even play personally? IIRC he likes BoA but that's all I know.

>>3759506
>Isn't fogdensity a GL-only mapinfo property?
>Ergo, it wouldn't take effect in software, which this map set supports?
I dunno
>Generally any that run constant scripts on the player, pretty much. Scripts like that will usually turn themselves back on on respawn but of course you aren't respawning, are you?
Like what, for example? I'm genuinely interested to see what mods do that kind of thing. I know that Project MSX runs a script on death. MetaDoom also does something like that in permadeath mode, I think.

>>3759501
Maybe they should change resurrect to duplicate the effect of netgame respawn. Or leave resurrect alone but add a different command to do it.

>>3759512
Like "respawn" cheat which works exactly like netgame respawn?

>>3759513
Fair enough, I don't use ZDoom much, I didn't know that existed.

>>3759510
Yeah, my original HtH map was a foggy valley, but after seeing how utterly destroyed it was in software I decided to make a new one instead. Fog is pain.

Couldn't really give you a list off the top of my head, sorry. DoomRPG deeefinitely breaks if you do that. Lots of synthfire stuff would break in the past. Sorry I can't be more helpful.

>>3759512
That's why I said play solonet, which is multiplayer with only one person. The can is specifically setup to respawn in multiplayer.

>>3759516
Solonet isn't just respawning like multiplayer though. It adds extra monster spawns, changes the way weapon pickups work, and I can't remember what else.

>>3759516
>Yeah, my original HtH map was a foggy valley, but after seeing how utterly destroyed it was in software I decided to make a new one instead. Fog is pain.
Fog is pain. Fog is love. I hope I'll figure something out. Maybe I'll mostly get a rid of it and restrict it to pseudogodrays.

Please try my Quake 2-singleplayer unit! I am finally done with it, but it might need some tweaking if you let me know the details.

It has three levels in it. You can see more screenshots and get a download here:

http://colonthreeenterprises.tumblr.com/post/156354414901/my-quake-2-unit-is-finally-here-3c-it-has

>>3759387
>>3759575
Gonna hook these to the news post >>3757621 for future reference.

>>3759223
The first maps lighting is bad, also DESPERATELY NEEDS SHOTGUN, the map feels almost twice as long when you're just popping at imps with the pistol.

>>3759607
Thanks, man.

>>3757618
>>3756391
What note where? Also where?
If it's a MIDI file, I could help correct it...

>>3759223
Just to note: with the brightly-coloured map, the sides of the windows of the armour room are untextured.

>>3759575
screenshot looks pretty. But I'm not into Quake 2...

>>3759575
I played through the first map and I thought it was pretty good, it had some very nice architecture, especially the atriums throughout the first map I wanted to explore the upper parts of the atrium what with the pipes and all, but I was disappointed when I couldn't.
The beginning of the map, however, is COMPLETE shit town 3000. Setting the player up to take a massive amount of damage in order for them to proceed with no way of avoiding the damage much less doing this at the very beginning of the map is not good game design. You've GOT to fix the spawn, make the player dive into deep water to stop the damage, make the player spawn at the bottom of the atrium, do something other than this.
I also think the button that opens the door to the room holding the blue key was too obscure, the player shouldn't strain to activate something like that and they shouldn't be thinking to themselves, "This seems too nuanced and obscure, I don't what the developer intended for me to do, I might just be exploiting a glitch to get to the key" and that was what I was thinking.
The architecture was very nice, though, I thought the way you carved the brush to fit the textures applied to it were very creative.
I'll play the rest of the map, but all in all it was pretty fun and well built.
>>3759976
It was a very fine game, one of my favorite games, but it's not a good Quake game, if id would have just called it "Descent Into Cerberon" Q2 would be a classic on the level of Doom and Quake.

>>3759497
>it makes maps impossible to finish, if you die and resurrect yourself.
why are you cheating

>>3760008
Do you think savegames are cheating? Resurrect is basically using savegames only you don't have to remember to save.

>>3759387
>they used that satisfying weapon pick up sound from shadows of the empire
>those pistols
>especially the Plutonia revolver with the Serious Sam reload sound
>that three hit punch combo for the TNT set

Sweet christmas.

>>3760017
>Resurrect is basically using savegames only you don't have to remember to save.

>>3760017
That's the biggest leap in logic I've heard, next to "the game was intended to be played with cheats because they're intentionally built into the game".

>>3760017

>>3760017
>Do you think savegames are cheating?
savescumming is bad, anon
you should stop savescumming, too

http://coinclink.tumblr.com/post/156358006661/i-eat-your-pancakes-youve-seen-doomguy-now
I had to witness this, so now you all will too.
i'm fucking dying some one send help

Hey guys what's going on in he-
>>3759497
>>3760017
oh lawd

Watch out everyone the IRC circlejerk has moved in.

I have been playing Ultimate Doom recently

I've found E3 to be really grating, thus far it's my least favourite episode, finished Mt. Erebus last night

>>3760064
literally nothing is happening in irc, you dumbass

>>3760082
congrats, you fed the troll.

>>3760082
The IRC has been and always will be an in-club circlejerk and if you ever go there for more than 5 minutes you can recognize the posting styles of the people in there.

>>3760032
Think about it and hopefully you'll see the sense of it. What is the difference between resurrection and reloading a savegame made 2 seconds earlier? I suppose the health reset makes it dubious, but better that than the alternative, to whit, if the choice is between "resurrect" and "quit the wad because your last save was so long ago that replaying all that again immediately is frustrating and tedious at the same time" I'll choose the former but make a note to replay the map properly at some future date.

>>3760098
How about you just load the fucking save?

>>3760098
>What is the difference between resurrection and reloading a savegame made 2 seconds earlier?
the fact that one is cheating and the other is accepting the consequences of your mistake and being grateful that you saved recently, which is not something that happens often.

>>3760104
I believe I answered that.

>>3760112
>"the game broke because i cheated it should pander to me"
>"why don't you just play the game normally then"
>"pander to me pls"

>>3760098
Saving the game right before an ambush requires the observational skills to recognize that ambush before it happens.

>>3760127
or savescumming mixed with trial and error in style of "I will save before every door and switch!"

>>3760127
And even then ambushes are usually blatant.

who wants some co-op on a wad of your choosing?

Now then. Post your WAD collections and we'll rate it.

>>3760110
No, what are the actual differences? I listed one, you get a health recharge. Otherwise the differences in game state are minor.

I don't care what you think is cheating or not. Besides I already said I make a note the map needs to be done again at a later date. Whether I used resurrect or reload to continue is irrelevant. In both cases I would not mark the map as completed.

>>3760119
I'm not the guy who was playing the mod which broke. All I did was claim there's insufficient functional difference between a resurrect and very recent savegame reload to matter, because as for "cheating" I know either way I'm going to have to play the map again properly.

>>3760127
This is true.

>>3760132
>>3760134
So why do you need to resurrect if you spend more time in save menus than you do actually playing the game? Why can't you accept punishment for playing badly? Why don't you just fucking get good?

>>3760143
YOU broke it you stupid fuck. The mod didn't break.

There's more than enough functional difference. One's fucking opening the console and cheating, the other's loading a save game.

>>3760134
No?

Alright. Dig me up a wad and I'll make a terrible-quality webm just for you.

>>3760005
>The beginning of the map, however, is COMPLETE shit town 3000. Setting the player up to take a massive amount of damage in order for them to proceed with no way of avoiding the damage much less doing this at the very beginning of the map is not good game design. You've GOT to fix the spawn, make the player dive into deep water to stop the damage, make the player spawn at the bottom of the atrium, do something other than this.
You can strafe in air into the shallow water to reduce damage from 97 to just 23 hp. I agree that this is bullshit design for blind first-time playthrough. I played on skill 3 and died in a pretty stupid trap with backpack on 2nd map. I don't quite like silly messages used all over the maps though. And there's a lot of red square textures everywhere, I guess I shouldn't see them?

I didn't realize this dam was settled near Plutonia

>>3760169
>

Holy fuck people, lots of players use the resurrect cheat when they're frustrated or otherwise just want to continue playing the game. Stop being elitist about it.

>>3760151
>YOU broke it you stupid fuck. The mod didn't break.
No, you have me confused with someone else.

>>3760151
>One's fucking opening the console and cheating
I don't care what you think is cheating.

>>3760175
lots of players are fucking casuals

I can't believe people are being this anal about "resurrect is a cheat and if you use it you are cheating".

>>3760169
>>3760174
Now anon, stop that. You're killing my sides.

>>3760184
End of discussion.

What wad has the best shotgun?

>>3760190
don't post cringeshit ever again and maybe you'll get your answer

>>3760184

I think there's trolling afoot. Nobody's that clueless.

I dont even care if people cheat, it's your game experience, do whatever you want even if imho you're ruining it. You do you.

But when people blatantly cheat and then claim they arent cheating... Are they delusional ?

>>3760192

>>3760197

>>3760197
now anon, this is different from /v/, you don't need to use bait or post terrible images to incite discussion here.

And the question of "best shotgun" is a really hard one, I mean it all comes down to personal preferences, some people like rapid fire shotguns, super shotgun-styled weapons, shotguns that need reloading, projectile based, hitscan, etc etc.

I'm really fond of the shotgun from Accessories to Murder, that thing packs a wallop and it FEELS good to use

>>3759223
>Can't drive the truck

>>3760213
I guess by best shotgun I mean the most meaty, powerful, and satisfying shotgun to use. I like AtM's shotgun too but everyone and their mother knows that one.

>continues to post cringe images

>>3759387
>infinite reloads

Gay as fuck

>continues to post cringe images

I don't think he's posting in good faith guys. That or he's from a different, worse board.

What the fuck does he keep posting, the Evolve thing?

On-topic though; Anon who spoke of the osiris and mars operation: do you have links? couldn't find on idgames.

Does the resurrection also respawn enemies? If yes it is like reloading. If no then it is a slow godmode.

>>3759247
He must have meant intermission cutscenes
>>3759321
Weren't they placeholders?

>>3760275
It does not respawn enemys.

>>3760275
it respawns you in place where you died with all your inventory at time of death without affecting the level and enemies, literally slow godmode as you described it

>>3760275
Resurrection doesn't respawn enemies. It's worse than savescumming

im up to report the trolling asshole from /v/ who keeps shitposting about cheats

>>3760305

>>3760169
You mean TNT evilution

>>3760316
Right, plutonia's the one with the abundance of revenants

I get the two mixed up a lot

Well it has its fair share of chaingunners too. But it is known for revenants due to the observation that in 32 maps there is only one from which they are absent.

>>3760320
I think many people do since they're both such a hassle to play through. TNT especially

>>3760330
To this day I haven't played through TNT past the 5th map. Is it worth completing?

>>3760281
>>3760337
stop posting /v/ images, also stop posting on proxies.

>>3760337
Why post this?

>>3760339
>why post this?
Because I want to know if TNT is worth finishing??

>>3760330
>TNT especially
no.

>>3760343
You know what you are fucking doing by posting shitty images like that. Cut it the fuck out or go back.

>>3760343
it isn't plutonia however, is.

>>3760337
If you're into torturing yourself, sure
>>3760348
Yes

>>3760343
>>3760351
then maybe you could stop posting autistic furshit?

>>3760350
I actually finished Plutonia recently and really enjoyed it. It's better than most wads I've played and Doom 2 by far.

>>3760356
fucking wrong post i'm sorry

>>3760351
TNT is replayable and the techbase maps look cool. both it and Plutonia being hard by modern standards is false, but at least TNT grants the player a manageable skill curve whereas Plutonia is outright a succession of 'yeah well, let's see you do against THIS', which, aside from being the main attraction, becomes bland overtime.

>>3760356
>autism meme in 2017
>"furshit"

really makes you think

>>3760362
>>3760351
and you know what else? it's a matter of fucking taste so imma shut up about it as keeping it up will lead nowhere. gonna go boot up TNT because I like listening to the music.

TNT has several really enjoyable and replayable maps, but is highly variable, even more so than Doom2. As such it is better taken as a set of individual maps, so the poor ones can be avoided, rather than trying to play the whole thing in sequence.

>>3760363
I could give less of a fuck if it had even the slightest TINGE of relation to the thread.

Fat, balding 50-year-olds with fox tails and ears, and a person dressed up as a childhood icon to many, is not Retro FPS.

>>3760362
That's a fair point but what I really didn't like about TNT was the partly convoluted level design coupled with the fact that it's absolutely riddled with chain gunners placed in such a way that occasionally you have to walk in their line of fire in order to progress the level

>>3760373
>>3760368

see >>3760174

>>3759273
>map09
>holy shit
Holy shit indeed, this map in general is rough as hell but the secret is a butt clencher.

100% worth it though, the prize you find inside is gonna come in handy

>>3760373
most of the chaingunner placement hinges on high platforms, and if there's a defense mechanic TNT abuses, it's cover. you are capable of singlehandedly escaping most ambushes by own volition via non-locked doors, or by heading towards the nearest pillar/wall to keep yourself from open hitscan fire.

active enemies emit sounds when aware of the player's presence, use that to your advantage before heading into a room.

How would I go about setting a new skybox for a map?

hint hint:
http://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/716971

>>3760380
I just lament that I didn't pass proper mapinfo, so the skybox is wrong one ( it should be MECH_99 ). But there's something to fix for next version.

Might even make another shortie map to practice. But gotta finish 'Judecca' first. And assigments. And commissions.

>>3760386
hurr nevermind i'm fucking dumb.

>>3760382
Oh I'm fully aware how you're supposed to avoid hitscan enemies, it's just that sometimes there's no choice but to make a run for it unless you know exactly where to go. That's how I remember it anyway

I'm not sure if I was supposed to crouch and come in here, but fuck it, I did.

>>3760372
He's at least talking about retro fps tho.

>>3760316
>>3760320
Both are actually correct. They both have way too many chaingunners, but Plutonia has almost 500 even on ITYTD.
http://doom.wikia.com/wiki/Heavy_weapon_dude#Appearance_statistics

>>3760372
>>3760397 is right.

btw guys cool thread doom is a cool game. I recently blasted through ancient aliens on qzdoom and really enjoyed it.

Doomism would make for an interesting architectural movement.

I'm imagining these sprawling complexes of over-sized rooms and hallways with minimal detail and no apparent practical purpose whatsoever. Occasionally you would run into a mildly representational element, like a twenty foot wall of computers or a 12 foot-by-4 foot concrete slab painted like it's supposed t be a desk,or some oversized blocky abomination that's supposed to be a chair. You'd have these stupidly long windows into other rooms without any glass in between, huge empty doorways, fuck, maybe even have entire rooms filled with water for no apparent reason.

Think about how terrifying that would be in real life.

>>3760404
That'd be as fedora-tier a movement as Cyberpunk.

>>3760410
>>>/v/

You have to go back.

So, uh, did Randy Heit go transgender some time back? Because I was reading forum threads about Zdoom and saw a handful of people refer to him as "Marisa".

>>3760423
I read the various "end of ZDoom" threads on DW and they were all using "Randi" and "she" as a pronoun. Nobody questioned this. Or maybe they did but that was the part of the thread that was deleted. Annoying.

>>3759273
Dude I found a radsuit in the sewers, and this map is fucking nuts as well.

to those of you that play this: Clench your buttcheeks when you get the yellow key because it's gonna get rough

>>3760427
>she
Are you sure they weren't talking about Eruanna?

>>3760404
Brutalist architecture can be very Doomy.

>>3760423
Don't know why anyone would even bother paying attention to that, you don't even know those people. There's a few trannies on the ZDoom forum, as long as they don't make a "thing" out of it in unrelated topics who cares.

And this is a brutalist church, it would be very easy to make a similar visual even in the original engine.

>>3760437
Is that one of the serpents from Dark Souls in that window?

>>3760445
And here's a more advanced looking church in a brutalist style.

You could easily make something look this good with the right texture choice (Suspended In Dusk had a lot of good concrete textures)

>>3760445
Alright now that actually looks like a room in a Doom map.

>>3760446
Oh fuck, can't unsee

>>3760434
Perhaps. My losing the ability to read would not be a surprise.

>>3760410
well this make it evident that the world is unclean

I don't know why they don't shoot sci-fi movies in buildings like these, you could get untold mileage out of just one university.

>>3760450
Yeah, you could either put in 8 rotation chair decorations, or make a series of curved and long benches.

>>3760454
Actually now that I read the thread myself I noticed that even Eruanna herself is referring to Randy as she/her.
Checked the ZDoom.org frontpage on Wayback Machine to see when he started going by randi instead of Randy and looks like it was sometime in 2012.

>>3760445
I think I've played that map

>>3760380
this looks like a hastily thrown together collage of my favorite buttplugs

>>3760445
that's some dystopian shit right there

>>3760260
>On-topic though; Anon who spoke of the osiris and mars operation: do you have links? couldn't find on idgames.
I posted links literary in the beginning of the thread >>3757895
>>3759575
https://puu dot sh/tA7dR/01caf6413c.zip
If you're interested in watching someone wander around your maps, sort of FDA's. Due to glorious Vanilla Q2's trouble with playing back multiple-level demos, all map changes require a new demo. Demos were recorded in default Quake 2 with unofficial v3.24 patch.
I can't say much. Tanks are placed in a really shitty places because ??????. They don't pose any threat whatsoever. I can understand that a big gun can trigger a trap, or item like a keycard or a major powerup, but tell me please why fucking BACKPACKS trigger traps? What's up with messages for 90% pickups? Some encounters are just meh. And then there's picrelated all over the place. I guess it's "MISSING TEXTURE" texture and I shouldn't see it? How can I solve this problem then?

wip

hope you like going to post-apocalyptic nevada

>>3760469
Nice.

>>3760473
Have any of you guys ever seen pale green marble like in Doom? I wonder if it exists, would be cool to maybe have a fireplace or something else like that. With skulls carved into the corners as detail, of course.

I see a lot of beautiful turquoise/teal tiling and dark green bricks, and lime green slabs, but nothing that quite matches what you see in Doom.

>>3760479
Of course, I spent five years playing that game.

Gotta make the rock and sand red and yellow/orange though.

>>3760491
i seen black mirrored marble floors, there's probably some HD textures that have some

>>3760493
eh?

recommend better textures because that seems to be my shitpoint.

>>3760504
i thought i cancelled that

have the forgotten image.

>>3760437
Are you the anon that made the brutalist mapset posted here some time last summer or so?

>>3760505
also have a wip of the first proper "room"

>>3760506
No, I wish I could map, but I just end up doing really uninspired layout and then fiddling around with a bunch of intricate detail.

I haven't played that one actually, do you have a link?

>>3760504
>>3760505
Well what I mean is that in Nevada, you're generally looking at reddish or yellowish brown rocks and mountains, and yellowish orange sand/gravel.

Gray and black stone textures like those really don't convey "Mojave" to me.
Some places also have a lot of rough brush growth (though that can be underplayed and/or ignored if it's not meant to be a super detailed map, and there's plenty of empty sand dunes in this desert anyway).

Duke Nukem 3D might have a few more suitable textures.

>>3760509
>really uninspired layout and then fiddling around with a bunch of intricate detail
Glad I'm not the only one

>>3760402
>wikia

>>3760515
Wrong Nevada.

>>3760402
>Wikia

>>3760521
Wasn't clear to me.

>>3760519
Sometimes I wonder if I could act as the Executive Detail Bitch to a mapping team, like someone who knows good flow and map design makes a basic layout with the kind of texture style he wants.

Then I come in like a Home Improvement show and put in carpets, lights, furniture, pipes and doodads, add a light flair of realism (like say, a plain room with some medkits in it can be decked out to look like a small infirmary, or a room where you find armor and a gun can be turned into a locker room with a shower, if an outdoors map, a plain grass plot can have some shrubbery, a bench and a trash-can added, along a walkway).

I'd intermittently give a report to the map maker and giving ideas and asking for input etc, showing progress.

>>3760536
They used to do that in 32-in-24 sessions. Someone would make a map, then someone else would detail it.

Soon

>>3760519
Pretty much.

>>3760536
You'd probably find plenty of work.

>>3760546
I'm pretty sure they only did that once. Greenwar 2 was similar, though all the initial layouts were by one person.

>>3760536
I'm absolutely certain countless newcomers would find the Map Improvement programme to their liking.

How do I make the map select the default sky3 instead of CCTEX4's?

>>3760509
>I haven't played that one actually, do you have a link?
Sorry, it's on another hard drive I don't have access to currently. I don't think he posted links anywhere but here, but anyway it was an extremely cool looking and moody map with a desolate feeling. Don't know if he even finished it.

>>3760491
Pale green marble exists, and is mined in the province I'm currently living in actually.

LET'S BEAT THESE NERDS TO THE PUNCH

>no one watch your videos

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_kQk1Tk4o50

>>3760584
jesus christ that looks awful

>>3760584

at least is not brutal doom

>>3760565
nevermind

may need some ACS aid tho.

>>3760584

at least is not project brutality

>>3760584
Stop shilling here, Pablo.

>>3760584

at least is not insanity's brutality

>>3758034
got doom 2 boxed with floppies buried somewhere under my old computer desk, bought at a fleamarket a couple years back came with the strategy guide too

>>3760423

More or less than two years ago, yeah. Explains a few things, when you think about it.

Randi also went absent around November 6th, then came back to the forums and the first thing Randi did was to desist from maintaining ZDoom.

>>3760190
well, that special snowflake isnt wrong

>>3757618
I want to play some Quake but the image won't load

Here's what the Nevada residents have for you so far.

https://my.mixtape.moe/quejmo.webm

I found the image elsewhere and downloaded the Quakespasm thing but when I try to run it I get this error. I'm confused.

>>3760646
>>3760682
Nevermind I fixed the problem

Sorry for being stupid

>>3760681
>custom enemies
>all hitscan enemies and you only have your fist

sigh

>>3760714
>custom
>only hitscan
>only your fist
>SIGH

Probably a really dumb question, but how do I get the resources from the highway to hell base.pk3 to work properly in GZDoombuilder? I tried copying the contents from the pk3 into my wad file with slade, but I get these errors and the truck and gas don't appear when I test it.

>>3760726
Did you load base.pk3?

>>3760726
just load it up as a resource file

don't import things yourself, it's really not necessary

>>3760726
You might need to make a config. I dunno, man.

>>3760729
Thanks I can't believe I didn't try this. I'm still getting the decorate warning though, and the gas isn't working on the truck.

>>3759387
The weapons are reasonably balanced and close enough to vanilla to feel like vanilla+ but the infinite ammo pistols (which already have buffed damage and rate of fire) just break it. It's too easy to cheese plenty of encounters with it. I think it'd be better if pistols still used ammo but swapping to them from any weapon is made near-instant.

Also, what's with the chainsaw replacement for Plutonia? As far as I can tell it sucks just as much as the vanilla chainsaw.

>>3760746
>I'm still getting the decorate warning though
ignore it, gzdoombuilder is bad

>and the gas isn't working on the truck.
apply the script to the truck via the action tab

>>3760726
?

So what makes SLADE 3's map editor unpopular?

>>3760787
gzdoombuilder surpasses it
it's not bad, there's just a much better option available

it's like trying to use a mac to play games. you can, and it's feasible, but it's not what it was designed for.