/vr/ - Retro Games

Heh Devil's Crush actually looks weird to me on CRT because I played so much of it on TurboExpress back in the day.

>>3747945

>>3747961

Don't fall for it.

Just wanted to say this is a cool game.

>>3751086
picked this up for 20 doallarydos wanted a smaller one but once i hooked it all up im happy

>>3751185
richfag

>>3751185
>not hooking up an N64 and 007

OPPORTUNITY WASTED

>>3751219
dont have a n64 i do have a dreamcast, saturn and a mega drive

some type ago an anon here was planning to make an rgb to s-video circuit.
I also need one, so I tried making one out the CXA41145, like how the md/gen mod is.
Well it half works. Some consoles are darker than others, and deeper blues turn purple...
So I have 4pin crystals on the way to try with a CXA1645 (the1145 can drive 2 pin ones but not the 1645), and I also ordered some AD724. They look very simple to build and can also drive simple crystals.

>>3751539
Did you run this post through google translate?

>>3751539
>rgb to s-video circuit

>>3751702
For americans

>>3751705
They can just use s-video without the conversion.

>>3751702
-because pic related
-because I might sell the TM-H1750 (maybe to a friend) without the rgb card and I want the new owner to be hassle-free, even more if it's my friend.
-because own curiosity
And I went that route because I have 2 outs on my scart switcher, so I can just leave everything connected and use the 2nd out.

>>3751747
>make him get RGB cables and fuck around with scart switches
>when he could just use s-video
>hassle-free

>>3751762
everything is oem rgb scart here famalam.

I know no one with knowledge about repairing CRTs visits this thread but I'll try anyway.

I was adjusting a pot for horizontal size inside my 1980s fake woodgrain CRT when the screen cut offt. Now the CRT wont stay on longer than 3 seconds. Could it just be a bad capacitor or dry solder? or is it likely the horizontal output transistor is just fucked?

>You literally cannot drive a flat-faced tube effectively with analogue circuitry. So that's why they only started appearing when they did (mid-late 90s).

Then how did vertically flat Trinitrons exist?

Do flat VGA PC CRT monitors have problems with geometry and deflection compared to curved VGA PC CRT monitors?

>>3751987
You dun goofed.

You have adjusted the pot beyond normal operating conditions and as a result it is likely causing a voltage issue due to drawing too little or too much. It is impossible to tell if it's completely fucked without reverting back to a setting within normal range.

I had this happen myself when I foolishly wondered what the G2 potentiometer did. My CRT instantly shut off with a loud *ZAP* and would not turn back on. I thought that I fried something, but after returning it back to the original position, it worked fine. Lucky me.

Hopefully you used a silver or white marker to note the original position before you touched it, or even better used a multi-meter.

Also, I'm not a tech. Just a fool who hasn't been electrocuted yet making some basic adjustments. For input from people who actually know their way around a CRT, check an arcade restoration forum.

not retro, but

what does my crt do if I run a 720p capable game from my original xbox via component cables?

>>3752181
Depends on whether your CRT is SD, HD, or multiformat and whether you you run your game on 480i, 480p, or 720p.

>>3752179
Yeah I turned it as close as I could tell back the other way but it didn't fix it sadly. I mean I never turned it extremely far past its original point. Its a bigger set so I was having to turn it then walk around to check the image and I turned it a very small amount and walked around about 3 times but it still wasnt lining up until finally it did that.

I've done the same as you with the g2 pentiometer though on a different set and it was fine.
I think older sets must be more sensitive or something.

Ill check out that forum

>>3752219
Yeah, having one of those easy to move, tall mirrors that you would normally hang on the back of a bedroom or closet door is really valuable when making TV adjustments when they're running.

Regarding potentiometers, I have dealt with many that are so sensitive that even touching them with the tip of screw-driver wildly changes the reading on a multi-meter. I mean just barely putting any directional pressure at all. It can be very annoying, and it is often literally impossible without being able to take a reading unless it was marked ahead of time.

Anyway, best of luck.

Did any arcade cabinets use flat CRT display or where they all curved screens?

>>3752454
Arcades were dead by that time.

>>3751086
>retro collectors forum
>they all have their games hooked up to LCD screens
>ayyo where the CRTs at?
>bro it's fine quit being an autist
>CRTs are stupid and old
The fuck is wrong with people

I have an old FS7600 CRT Monitor, don't know if its good or meh

>>3752674
Its just an average PC CRT

>>3752615
Perhaps you have autism.

>>3752691
Is that bad?

>>3751086
Beauty

>>3752703
depends on what you want to use it for

>>3752740
pure beauty I love crt

So I looked around quite a bit and couldn't find any advice on this:

Sega Genesis model 1 uses an 8-pin DIN connector. I have a PVM that can take an RGB signal, through BNC. Also, I already have quite a stack of RCA -> BNC connectors.

I was wondering: what's the path of least resistance when it comes to getting the RGB coming out of this thing to my PVM? I'm mostly trying to DIY this stuff.

>>3752835
Buy a genesis 1 generic av cable (make sure it is fully pinned, if not buy 2 and cannibalize one for its pins)

buy the necessary bnc connectors (4 or 5) and 2 rca for the audio (genesis 1 is mono unmodded, but you can pass the sound down both L and R channels)

construct your own direct rgb bnc cable for the genesis.

This is what I'm doing right now.

>>3752848
Nice. Do you know if the wires inside are easily separable?

>>3752854
The wires aren't very good if you buy cheap, I'm just throwing away and using my own.
You'll need more than what's in the cable to make rgb if it's an AV cable because av uses less pins, so unless you buy a genesis scart plug you will need to rewire.

>>3752615
Many collectors aren't concerned about actually playing their games.

>>3752848
somehow I feel you'll be back asking why everything is overbright.

>>3751086
What game is that

>>3753384
Devil's Crash MD

>>3752848
>>3752869
Sounds like a lot of hassle just to get a badly soldered DIN connector (which will almost certainly be sealed anyhow)

You do know you can buy those off the shelf right?

>>3752198
an sd crt

How would one go about cleaning this? It's a 5041q so it has a little plastic(?) cover over the screen. I'm not sure what it is but it looks like marker, at first I actually thought it was nail polish. I used some rubbing alcohol on a qtip but no luck.

Any advice?

>>3753682
If it's a marker then use water and soap.

>>3753682
if it's marker you need alcohol, rubbing alcohol might not be enough so use isopropyl (90% and more)
if it's nail polish you need acetone, but only on the glass as it melts plastic.

>>3753701
>>3753713
I'm still waiting to hear back from the seller to see if she knows what it is.

I don't think it's marker because if i go over it with my finger nail I can feel that it is on top of the cover.

I have a Mr clean magic eraser but I doubt that'd be safe for the screen protector

>>3753719
Why don't you just take it off?

The microscratches are going to fuck up your image contrast in any case. If it were me (and I gave a toss about having one on it I'd take the plastic along to a glass cutter and have them make up a replacement which would be scratch resistant.

>>3753663
>what does my crt do if I run a 720p capable game from my original xbox via component cables?
>an sd crt

it will fuck up and not display anything.

>>3752454
many late sega cabinets used a hitachi tri sync flat tube

>>3753872
don't tell me this. I feel you jerkin my chain. Mainly because a large number of people still had sd tv's when xbox was releasing 480 and 720p games. I don't ever recall xbox asking if you would like to play a game in an alternative resolution but maybe I never had component cables back then. Hard to remember.

>>3754407
it doesn't ask you. If your set your Xbox to display in 720p, 1080i modes, it will test if your set can display in them. If you have the component cables in, it will always run in 480p, meaning if your set doesn't at least support 480p, you will get a fucked up picture.

I say this as someone who wrote extensive guides on Xbox modding, and the only good xbox games recommendation list.

>>3754407
og xbox only did 480i, it could do 480p and above through a hacked bios + component cables.

>>3754425
You don't know what the fuck you're talking about

>>3754420
Are you 100% cereal. Because I'll cry if so. I've og Xbox component cables coming in the mail and I was so hype to use them with my sd tv ;_;

>>3752181
If you have it set to interlaced in the dashboard it will be fine.

Not sure what the fuck that so-called "modder" is banging on about but I'll have whatever he's smoking...

>>3754590
The xbox can do both 480i and 480p with component cables.

>>3754623
This brings me peace. So will I see an improvement in visuals over composite even though I'm running interlaced

>>3754642
>So will I see an improvement in visuals over composite even though I'm running interlaced
Yes.

>>3754646
Then it's all worth it. I appreciate the all the help!

>>3754590
If you mean you're keeping it at 480i, it should work.

Hey fellas, I'm using a Sony PVM 8044Q with y/c video to play PS1 games, and everything is going good except for the fact that the screen is warped near the bottom. It squishes anything at the bottom of the screen to a very thin size. See pic related, it's should just look like the letter O.
I'm also getting some sort of fuzz tracing to the right of an object whenever it's accompanied by a black background.
Any way to fix this?

>>3753087
this

Collecting is for the rich and nostalgic, who both tend to be casual.

How do I wire a bnc connector with non-coax wires?
I've got bnc male connectors that I think were originally for cctv cameras, so they're designed to take coax cable, but I'm trying to make them take just 2 24 gauge wires (one video feed one ground). I've tried threading the video cable through and then wrapping the ground wire around the outside where the coax sheath would normally be and then crimping, with no luck.

I think for now I'll solder the wires to some rca's and then run them through an rca-bnc adapter.

>>3754938
They use coaxial for a reason. A pair of 24 gauge wires are not going to have the same impedance as the coaxial cable. Unless you use a very short cable you are going to get some nasty interference/reflection.

>>3754954
Ya, I'll just give up on this route, although I'll keep fiddling with it to see if it can be done.

Thoughts on "RCA Stereo Monitor Colortrak Plus"? Any good? Had it since I was young. I love it but it puts off that really high pitch noise.

>>3754818
Your first problem is related to vertical linearity. You'll need to open the case and find the appropriate pot to adjust it.

The second could well be a weak signal on your input or unterminated loop-through outputs. What signal type are you using? How's your cabling? Do you need to add BNC terminators?

>>3754818
>>3755242
Just noticed you're using svideo.

Can you try another source on that input and see if it goes away?

>game has a screen adjust option

I wish it was more common.

>>3754584
I was half right, this applies for pal xbox

>never played xenogears before

Damn ive been missing out. This game is beautiful

>>3755524

>>3755282
Heh me too.

Just got a monitor where I suspect the RGB input is fed directly to the neckboard as geometry controls have no effect.

What's the best way of dealing with horizontal centering issues?

>>3755242
What are these pots going to look like? What do I use to adjust them, my hands? Will I electrocute myself?
In the case of the picture you presented I suppose I need to look for the pin amp or corner pin.
>>3755243
How do you mean another source? The CRT only takes s-video. Are you saying I convert another method of input from the PS1 into -S-video?

>>3755790
The CRT will also at the very least have an RF port and most likely composite as well
test those

>>3755798
It's got a component port, but the female ports look like the strangest things I've ever seen, component cables aren't going to fit in here, what do I use to access these things?

>>3755870
BNC to RCA adapter to use the cables you likely already have.

>>3755870
Those are BNC ports.

>>3755790
>What are these pots going to look like?
Small cross-head screws on the D board
>What do I use to adjust them, my hands?
A small cross-head screwdriver will suffice if you don't have a plastic trimmer tool.
>Will I electrocute myself?
Not if you keep away from the anode cap and any large power supply capacitors.
>In the case of the picture you presented I suppose I need to look for the pin amp or corner pin.
No. I mentioned vertical linearity so you want the V.Lin one (RV507)

Do yourself and download the service manual from https://www.manualslib.com/products/Sony-Trinitron-Pvm-8044q-3973341.html - the info you want is on page 22 (pic related)

>How do you mean another source?
Another device outputting s-video. DVD player perhaps? This would help to eliminate the PS1 cable or the console itself as a possible cause of your issue.

>The CRT only takes s-video
No it doesn't. It also accepts Composite, YPbPr and RGB.

>Are you saying I convert another method of input from the PS1 into -S-video?
You could I suppose but better to try another source and cable altogether.

>>3755798
No RF on monitors m8.

>>3755881
I fooled around with RV507 and even a few others and I saw very little difference. I think it may be a problem with S Correction because the top seems to do it as well, I don't know.

>>3756048
Possibly an underlying component failure then. A full board capacitor replacement might fix it, or swap out the D board for a known good spare one.

Might be cheaper and easier to retire it as a spares unit and get a new one though.

>>3756149
I see. Thanks for the help, I'll look into it.

Does moving a CRT (sliding across table, turning to face other directions, rotating onto its side) while it's powered on cause more damage (components on/near the yoke coming loose) than doing the same while the CRT is off?

>>3756201
I wouldn't really recommend it but any movement in relation to the earth's magnetic field - whether switched on or off - will cause minor purity issues.

These usually fade over a few days / degauss cycles though. DO NOT be tempted to repeatedly force degauss in a short period however. Let it subside naturally.

>>3756201
you can shake the electron gun filaments while they're hot and break them.

Does anyone know what might cause a sudden and uncorrectable Bowie distortion such as pic related?

My camera has introduced a small amount of barrel distortion making the top and bottom edges of the picture appear bowed but in reality they are dead straight. It is only the sides which are pinched toward the middle.

My first thought are that a capacitor may have failed somewhere in the deflection circuit due to lack of use or simply old age.

Any thoughts or theories are welcome. TIA.

>>3756360
>Bowie

I meant Bowtie. Let it go phone, he passed on over year ago now...

Are you a bad enough dude to spend $3000 on a CRT?

>>3756481
My Toshiba weighs 177 pounds, I'm not carrying that thing again until it breaks.

>>3756481
I honestly sort of regret not jumping on the same model last year for like $600.

>>3756481
I'm not bad enough yet, but man it'd be great to play games on one of those

>>3756481
>buying a fully depreciated studio monitor with countless hours for the price it had when brand new
It's no that I'm not bad enough but more that I'm not stupid enough to buy it.

>>3757110
>for the price it had when brand new
Now that's funny.

You're off by a factor of 10, if not more.

>>3757170
It might not be the price of a brand new BVM, but it's still about the price of a brand new SD 15" Ikegami broadcast monitor.

>>3756360
Anyone?

I'm going to phone a couple of local repair places today but it would be nice to have some idea in case they try to tell me it's uneconomical or something.

>>3757176
>I'm not paying THAT for a used S-Class! I could pick up a brand new Camry for the same amount.

>>3757195
Except that a used Class S usually cost less than a brand new Camry here.

>>3757176
The D24(and A24) is also a considerably rarer and more scarce monitor.

Also, I can't seem to remember the page, but I'm pretty sure that you're still looking at 10-20k for Ikegami's Grade 1 monitors(which are still available)

>>3757213
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/632864-REG/Ikegami_HTM1990RRM_HTM_1990_RRM_19_HDTV_SDTV.html

They do a 9" LCD for 3k bucks though...

>>3757213
>I'm pretty sure that you're still looking at 10-20k for Ikegami's Grade 1 monitors(which are still available)
Here are the prices from Ikegami's website:
http://www.ikegami.com/br/products/sdtv/moni_comparison.html
It's 2500 bucks for an RGB-capable 15" broadcast monitor, the 10k+ one is a multiscan 19" broadcast monitor.

>>3757221
Still, it's the 19'' that is the closest comparison here.
Also the only two that are still available.

>>3757220
it's 9" though

why would you spend so much?

seems like a waste

>>3757238
You know how much money is in television and movie production?

A LOT.

>>3757243
but aren't people buying it for video games?

even if the quality is alittle better it's only 9 inch

>>3757246
Not sure what planet you're on but Hiroshima needs to block its IP...

>>3757227
Okay, it's not the price they had when brand new, but it's still equivalent to a brand new decently sized RGB-capable broadcast monitor, and unless the dude serviced it entirely (cleaned both inside and outside, replaced capacitors, diodes and transistors with brand new components, and calibrated it) there's no reason for him to sell at such a high a broadcast monitor that likely have been used 24/7 for some pretty high amount of time and is now fully depreciated, which means it has no value at all -- if the studio tried to sell it, they'd get the tax office on their back for trying to jewing them, cause that would mean the monitor was worth more than what was declared. That doesn't mean that I think monitors shouldn't be sold at all, but anything more than 200$ for a used monitor which price already went down by 25% the second it was put in use and was decreasing greatly ever since is kinda ridiculous.

>>3757249
>WAAAAAH. WHY SHOULD SOMEONE BE ALLOWED TO MAKE PROFIT! MOOOOOOMYYYYYY TELL THE NASTY MAN TO GIVE IT ME FOR FREEEEEEEEE!!!!

pathetic

>>3757251
Wow this must be the most autistic general on this site, you guys are arguing about CRT's for christ sake.

>>3757251
>selling a professional monitor that you got for free for 150 bucks isn't making profit.
>he think PVM and BVM resellers on ebay are some kind of commercial agents that deserve a gratious pay for reselling free shit, even though they'd get 0.00 bucks if they really were 'cause 60% of 0$ is still 0$.
>he think that selling an old used monitor for several hundred, or even thousand bucks is okay even though the seller didn't even service it
>he's willing to pay 3000 bucks on a used, unserviced monitor while he could have a smaller, but refurbished, or even brand new monitor with guarantee and all

>>3757278
If it were obsolete I would be inclined to agree but the fact is that it's widescreen and HD-capable. It would quite happily slot into a modern edit or grading suite or, if the worst came to the worst would be worth the asking price in parts alone to keep others going.

It is not a retro gaming monitor and never will be, despite Phonedork singing it's praises.

>>3757317
>It is not a retro gaming monitor and never will be
if you go this way, the only retro gaming monitors are commodore, atari, msx and the like.. quite the stupid claim

>>3751086
Rate my shit

>>3757356
lens flare/10

>>3757317
If it's for production I think that having a serviced unit or at least some kind of guarentee or technical support is even more important, unless it's some hobby of yours -- you don't want one of your revenue source to fall appart without being able to fix it/replace it quickly.
>>3757352
Yeah it's not like there are plenty of non-HD broadcast and pro monitors from sony, ikegami, barco, jvc and the likes.

hi guys quick question, but the female SCART to BNC breakout cables I use with my SNES, can I use the same cable to use with PS1 or other SCART cables?

>>3757356
size?

>>3757246
No its for filming. The small size makes it portable so its good for filming away from the studio.

>>3757251
I've been in this thread for a while and any time someone says professional monitors are becoming overpriced you write some pathetically over-exaggerated greentext that makes me feel sorry for you if you actually think that's how every person who mentions the prices thinks.

that being said the person you replied to is pretty stupid
>>3757249
you have to understand these may be the same people selling it who bought it 20+ years ago. they dont want to think that it could have that huge of a depreciation and since they are so rare whoever sells them controls the depreciation since there isnt many precedent sales.

>>3757356
>mitsubishi
Nice. I still have my old 20" Mitsubishi that my mom bought for my brother and me in 1987 to go with our new NES. I played every video game I owned until 2011 on it. I feel like I should dig it out of the attic and play some vidya on it for old time's sake.

The only picture I have of it. Taken with an extremely shitty polaroid in 2000 while watching some MST3K. I think that's my Genesis underneath with Earthworm Jim 2 plugged in.

>>3757627
of course you can

>>3757672
>you have to understand these may be the same people selling it who bought it 20+ years ago. they dont want to think that it could have that huge of a depreciation and since they are so rare whoever sells them controls the depreciation since there isnt many precedent sales.
Not to get off subject, but apparently this is a baby-boomer thing. They think EVERYTHING should hold its value FOREVER. I remember trying to buy CRTs from people even 6 or 7 years ago. They still wanted multiple hundreds of dollars for them because "that's what they paid for it brand new", even though by then CRTs were yesterday's news.

>>3757672
>you have to understand these may be the same people selling it who bought it 20+ years ago. they dont want to think that it could have that huge of a depreciation and since they are so rare whoever sells them controls the depreciation since there isnt many precedent sales.
The meaning of depreciation used in the post you're quoting is the accountable one -- the value of the monitors have to be fully depreciated after a multiple year cycle before the business can give it/throw it away without losing money. After being depreciated at 100%, the product have no value at all (it's worth 0$) and the business can't sell it. The guy who bought it 20+ years ago know that they've been fully depreciated, technicians work together with the accountants when they make the inventory. The dude selling it most likely looked at the original price of that shit online and put one that's less than the original one while still being really high
>that being said the person you replied to is pretty stupid
Naah, I'm just wondering why would someone pay a few thousand bucks for something that was worth 0 bucks when the reseller got it. It's okay if the guy selling the monitor he got for free got it serviced or put a reasonable price, but asking 2300 bucks for an old, used, unserviced broadcast monitor is just being a turbojew. Hopefully that kind of shit doesn't happen in my country.
>>3757747
That's mostly an american phenomenon, and it seems pretty common when it comes to people selling musclecars (the usual rusted-out shell sold for tens of thousand dollars with the "Don't try to negociate, I know what I got" comment). I've never seen people doing this here (unless they didn't want to sell their shit).

>>3757784
>That's mostly an american phenomenon
Well, baby boomers are an American phenomenon, so I think my original statement covers it.

Where are you from, though?

>>3757809
There have been a baby boom in most developped countries during the reconstuction. Our boomers are kinda anoying in some way too, but they're not into the "I know what I got" thingy.
Anyway, I'm from France.

Anyone know what would cause a monitor to start buzzing? It didn't use to and now after a few minutes of being on it will sometimes begin to buzz and not stop unless I turn it on and off

>>3757830
Does your monitor have a speaker?

>>3757851
No, it has external speaker output

>>3757829
bonjour, Mr Baguette. Francais moi aussi

Just found a Sony trinitron

here's model number. It's 32 inch so it's pretty damn heavy. Anyone think this is a decent model?

>>3757891
yep thats a good model

>>3757956
>>>3757891 (You)
>yep thats a good model
Any tips on carrying it? Its huge as fuck

>>3757967
>Any tips on carrying it? Its huge as fuck
Asking for some friends to help you out is one of them.

>>3756481

>Someone just bought it

Holy shit. This is really going to be one of those $5000 holy grail monitors isn't it? I get that they only made 500 of them but...damn that's expensive.

>>3757982
it's still usable for 720p, 1080i and even 1080p/24fps. Pretty sure that's still decently cheap for a 1080i broadcast or for some 24 fps bluray mastering

>>3755870
>female ports look like the strangest things I've ever seen
i don't get how people can search out and buy pro monitors and NOT know about bnc connectors...

>>3757982
D24 has been a holy grail monitor for a while now, that's why it's so expensive. It's perfect for PS2; it can do 4:3 240p and 480i, and widescreen 480p and 480i, and even 1080i for the four games that support it.

>>3757982
>16:9 CRT

It's shit.

>>3757891
>2001

Enjoy your faded green gun in a few years.

>>3758620
?

HI
I REALLY want to play my GBA games from my laptop on a TV, because everdrive GBA is way too expensive

PROBLEM: My LCD makes everything looks like ass. So I'll play on my CRT! But my CRT has RCA+S-Video, and my laptop has HDMI. Halp

Anybody know how the get the service menu on a JVC TM-H150CGU? Can't find a service manual anywhere.

>>3758636
You should find a cheap Wii and run mgba on it.

>>3758734
hold Menu, press +, then down, release Menu, press + or -

>>3758005
That crossed my mind reviewing the posts, welp

>>3758636
Just get the pictured adapter from Amazon and set your HDMI output to 640x480 (otherwise the adapter will look like garbage). Converts audio and everything just fine. There's also a similar item at Radio Shack, if brick and mortar is your scene.

>>3758749
Didn't see anything for geometry in this menu. Is there any way to adjust this without opening the monitor up?

>>3753682
>>3753701
>>3753713
>>3753719
This isn't one of the two I sold, but I'll say this: the cover glass for the 5041q is just there to protect it when in transport. You could open the little guy up and unscrew the who front fascia/bezel if you want. The monitor looks kinda cool if you do, though the buttons are at risk.

I don't remember if it's real glass or plexiglass, but either way that screen protector is there to be scratched. Clean it with whatever you have that doesn't melt plastic. It should be fine.

>>3758807
it's deflection block, you have to try each setting as it's not named

>>3756481
I bought a D24 in December for around $800 total from an auction. It didn't have a power supply though, so I had to drop another $75 for that.

>>3757982
>>3758505
There's actually a lot of D24 monitors out there. The D32s though, they are rare as heck.

>>3758810
Thank you so much. I've been trying to get this info for awhile!

>>3758636
>because everdrive GBA is way too expensive

There are other options to the Everdrive flash carts. I use a EZ Flash IV, and it only cost me like $25 on ebay. It is a little quirky, but it gets the job done.

>>3758796
This will work, and I used a similar one with s-video for a while. But there is no way to get 240p with it that I know of. Everything was blurry and pixelated and scan lines were practically non-existent. But for a couple of dollars, it is a very cheap temporary solution.

>>3758810
You don't happen to have a service manual too, do you?

>>3758849
https://www.manualslib.com/j/jvc+tm-h150cgu.html

>>3759067
>those prices
did a retro gaming store start selling CRTs or something?

I snagged a CRT from my neighbour but when I tried it there's a lot of popping noises what's wrong with it?

>>3751539

RGB to s-video with SCART input?? Can you share how you made it? I wanna build one to use with my shitty model 2 Genesis.

>>3758845
does your ezflash iv run mother 3? Mine doesn't save.

>>3759182

>>3759286
I couldn't get it to save with my 3-in-1 either, which I would assume is using a very similar loader/process to the IV.

>>3759182
Probably the HV leaking into the DAG coating on the outside of the tube. Assuming you know how to discharge, open it up and run it that way in the dark. Can't see anything arcing from the back? Pull the anode cap off and remove the rust from the shatter hook thingy and the anode button it clips into. Clean everything with isopropyl and try again.

>>3759257
I will once I test both circuits to find the better one.

>>3758796
>>3758845
That might be my best option, but I thought I'd check to be sure:
Considering I also have VGA output, is this legitimate?
>https://www.zoro.com/value-brand-vga-to-svideorca-adapter-cable-black-2509/i/G4474662/?gclid=Cj0KEQiAtqHEBRCNrdC6rYq9_oYBEiQAejvRlwvXkl0QufyYan2H9NG0CSOp8w2a3Bx2dcHNBiIfQIIaAnCK8P8HAQ

Alternatively, g said to use a USB to S-Video adapter. But I'm not sure if that's legitimate either.

>>3758845
Oh and by the way
>I use a EZ Flash IV
Thanks for the tip, I really appreciate it

>>3759608
Nevermind, it seems no matter what you need a converter box.
Best options seems to be
>https://www.amazon.com/HDE-Computer-Converter-S-Video-Composite/dp/B00BZA2U7K/ref=sr_1_3?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1485362184&sr=1-3&keywords=vga+to+tv

God only knows if it won't look like absolute ass

>>3759608
No. As >>3759758 states, you need a converter box.

Those cables and others like them are for taking a particular type of input, such as component or s-video and feeding them into something like a projector which only has a 15-pin D-sub input. They will not convert the signal, only provide a means of linking devices with ports which do not match but will otherwise accept the same signal.

It can be confusing figuring this all out. Like I only found out that you can feed a Component signal into an Extron RGB 203 Rxi unit and still get a Component out without using shit like BNC to SCART fed into a SCART to Component converter box because of random posts by Fudoh on the Shmups hardware forum. Saved me well over $100 USD getting everything connected to my CRT that only accepts Composite, S-video, and Component without falling for the fucking SCART meme.

>>3759852
shut up bray wyatt

>>3759852
>Needing a box to go from component to component

>>3759904
PC > VSC 500 > RGB 203 Rxi > CRT

480p > Downscaled to 480i > adjusted to 240p > comfy scan lines

Not saying it's ideal, but it gets the job done.

What is the smallest CRT with component hookups I could possibly find guys

>>3759946
SONY 5041Q

>>3759946
13"

>>3759969
If you mean consumer TVs

>tfw poorfag
>tfw moving across the country soon
>tfw can't afford to safely ship all my CRTs

life is suffering

>>3759987
So wrap them in blankets and stick them in your van or whatever?

>>3759969

Any particular models you know of that are that small with component cable support? I've made the recent discovery that my PS2 on component on a crt looks amazing but I'd like a smaller one due to moving soon

>>3759967

Oh my goodness, you aren't kidding. That looks great but they seem pricey. Anything of similar size?

>>3760060
It's the only 5" I know of that does Component, RGBS, and Composite. They really aren't bad price wise, ~$40 on eBay last I checked. Consumer 5"ers with RF or composite are running about the same.

>>3760056
Go S-Video loser

Question about RGB/s-video on PSX.

I have an s-video cable, but it doesn't look great. It came from a bargain bin and in unbadged. I know on SNES, shitty s-video cables often exist where it is an s-video plug but actually carries composite. Is this the same for the PSX? How is PSX s-vid?

I do have an RGB cable for PSX, but it looks fucking awful for Chrono Cross. I vaguely remember something about CC switching resolutions. Anyone know what's up with this?

And please don't tell me you hate CC. I really don't care.

>>3759067
What the fuck am I seeing here?

Where did you take this picture?
What year was it?

>>3760153
You can pick up official Sony S-Video cables really cheap nowadays, brand new even. You'll find it delivers 95% of the quality of RGB with 5% of the hassle (assuming you live in NTSC-land).

In any case I'd take a quality S-Video cable over a chinkshit SCART any day of the week and I live in a place where RGB hookups are commonplace.

>>3760154
I think it's an older Goodwill shot.

>>3760172
Any tips on getting a legit OEM cable? I saw listings on eBay for them for $10, but I had assumed they were bootlegs. Know any good sellers or have any clues to make sure I get a real 1st party one?

>>3760198
Find one still in the original packaging.

>>3760202
Like this http://r.ebay.com/aDSYVy ? The more something says genuine the more I assume it's fake...

>>3760198
Stick to the ones with the metal plug housings. They are custom Sony parts and no bootlegger would go to the expense of replicating them.

Sony did also release a version with coloured plastic plugs but I'd steer clear as they tend not to be any cheaper and are far easier to rip off by sneaky chinks. The metal plugs are typical old-school Sony quality. Tactile, weighty and generally godlike.

>>3760208
That looks legit, and if something on eBay isn't what the description said you get your money back.

>>3760056
toshiba and sony flat screen 13" are likely to have component

>>3760208
And rightly so. Chinese are fucking pro at counterfeiting.

Literally ZERO of my 1st-party memory cards for psx, ps2, and ngc which were bought recently on ebay are actually legit. Which I learned after opening them up when I got curious one day. All of them were bought sealed new with official logos and everything. Meanwhile, all the ones I already owned from my youth were legit when I opened those to check.

Avoiding buying from sellers outside of the US won't help either. Oddly enough, the best solution I have found was to specifically look for items which are obviously used and showing wear typical with age but still in decent shape. The newer it looks, the less likely I am to consider a purchase.

>>3757725
http://www.ebay.com/itm/TRUE-RGB-LUMINANCE-SYNC-CABLE-FOR-PLAYSTATION-1-2-3-SCART-VIDEO-LEAD-CABLE-/172500502618?hash=item2829d4c85a:g:aUoAAOSwLEtYiMmH

will this do? retro_game_accessories is out of stock of their product but this seems to be the same thing, and cheaper too. for reference im trying to hook up a fat ps1 to my crt that only takes in the bnc type inputs. so i'll be doing scart to bnc and i already have the female scart to bnc adapter.

>>3760208
>>3760153
OEM Sony PS3 s-video cables are the way to go for PS1 and PS2, and are legit dirt cheap for new in box right now. PS3 component cables are better if your set accepts component, but while they were cheap a couple years ago they've shot up in price recently.

>mfw Pokémon R/B are reddit tier

>>3760561
XD le le meme meme

>>3760289
should work just fine

I have no basis to tell if a price is good or not, so would $140 be reasonable for a PVM-14N1U? I know it's not a steal, but it doesn't sound too bad.

How come some CRTs go for $100s on eBay and some are for free on Craigslist? Are there certain tiers of CRT, or is it possible that the free ones aren't actually CRT but are something else? I kind of just assume anything not an HDTV is CRT, am I wrong?

>>3760947
Since you clearly have no idea about any of this, you need to know only one thing: turn back now. Don't fall for the meme. CRTs are for mentally ill autistic people.

>>3760947
>>3761079
See >>3759913 if you need proof.

What CRT model is this?
Apparently it has VGA and S-Video only.

>>3761187
>VGA and S-Video only
I find that hard to believe. If it does, get it.
They probably just mistakenly called composite "VGA"

Was this monitor worth twenty bucks? It does 1880x1440 at 70Hz, 1600x1200 at 85Hz, everything below it pretty much handles at over 100Hz, has a USB hub that I can't get working, and takes RGB BNC and VGA.

I picked it up cause it's got better specs than my 955DF and so far I don't regret it. It's actually better than the 1080p LCD I paid two hundred for last year.

Got this Flatron 915FT Plus for twenty bucks. Good deal or no? I like it so far, the resolution is fucking nuts for a CRT, 1880x1440 at 70Hz. It definitely beats my 1080P LCD.

>>3761207
>Oh shit! I posted the reddit one! Better correct that.
Too late, I already saw the previous post.

Anyway, 20 bucks for a monitor like that? It's not bad at all. Seeing the frequencies it can substain at such a high resolution, I bet that he could be able to put out something higher like 2048*1536 if you try a bit.

>>3761187
>>3761197
Yeah without a doubt they mixed up VGA and RCA (misnomer for composite a/v).

Worth picking up, those hi-black consumer trinis were noice in the '90s

>>3751987
recap the thing, if it works for 3 seconds meaning ics are ok. most likely lack of tension due to old/bad/chinese caps

>>3761216
I tried for a little to get it that high but to no avail, when I put that in as a custom resolution in nvidia control panel it switches to 1638x1229 instead. I'm still pretty new to using CRTs again so if you could shed some light on how I might be able to get 2048x1536 I would appreciate it. It's the timings that I need to adjust, right?

>>3761221
Nah usually on older windows all you had to do was uncheck "hide modes that aren't available" or something, put the refresh rate at 60Hz and try higher resolution progressively.

>>3752454
not hitachi, it's toshiba for late sega cabs (new net city / late naomi-triforce and initial D3 and similar)

weiya w/ samsung or LG tube for the egret3 (some say early egret3 had a toshiba PF as well...never seen one)

anyway IMO best arcade crt are nanao from 18 to 26"

29" is too big, looked good when new but now they're all fucked up

>>3752562
no

>>3757982
fuck, man. maybe I should sell mine. I don't need the money right now, but I can't imagine it will go up or even hold its value much longer.

http://www.audioreview.com/cat/televisions/standard-televisions/jvc/av-27d500/prd_121411_6435crx.aspx
I've got one of these.
Is it a goodun?

>>3761225
So I did end up getting it to run at 2048x1536, but only on my retro pc which runs XP. No idea why my main pc wont do this, but I guess it proves that it's possible.

>>3761880
might be EDID shenanigans, win7 and beyond are notorious for this.

>>3761901
That's what I'm thinking too, cause I had to disable that stuff on xp to get it working. Maybe CRU will be able to help.

>>3759371
I know absolutely nothing about discharging so I would personally not clean it because I don't want to fry my organs
If I can't find someone who can fix it, should I just trash it or is it not going to be a big problem in the future?

>>3761232
true honestly 27 inchers look pretty fucked up too

such a shame

>>3753682
>>3753701
>>3753713
>>3753750
>>3758808
Here with an update on the scratched little 5041q. He's in good health after I finally used Novus on him. Took a few coatings of the stuff but eventually all got wiped clean.

Is RCA and composite the same thing?

>>3762368
No

>>3762368
RCA is a connector type while Composite is a form of transmitting video.

>>3762373
This is an RCA cable? Would it work on a JVC X'Eye?

https://www.amazon.com/Skool-Genesis-Nomad-Standard-Cable-Packaging/dp/B00XBDM4R0/ref=pd_sbs_63_t_2?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=S9W4SAJESAZ37RY27CBK#customerReviews

>>3762340
Looks a lot better, but what the hell is that stuff all over it?

>>3762438
Eh just some dust and miscellaneous specs. Nothing a good microfiber can't clean off. The main issue is solved and I'm happy.

>>3762385
If you're just going for composite the X'Eye has standard RCA jacks on the back so just get a cable that has the yellow, red and white cables on both ends.

>>3762502
Yeah, that's what I'm currently using. That other plug that looks like a S-video jack is DIN?
Would it be any different to use that?

>>3762535
Not for composite. You can get RGB from there using a Genesis 2 cable though.

>>3762549
Alright, I think I'm understanding. So that DIN = composite (R,Y,W). To do RGB, it would have to be through SCART and an adapter? There is not a DIN to RGB cable?

Hi /vr/

I'm looking for a CRT since my old one has just died on me.

I'm torn between these two (pic related). A 29' Samsung Tantus (Top) and a 29' Sony Trinitron
(bottom).

They're both the same price but I don't know the video inputs of the Sony Trinitron since the seller only took that picture. Does any one knows the video inputs of the Trinitron just by looking at the picture?

So, which one does /vr/ think I should buy?

>>3762647
Buy the Trinitron

>>3762689
>Buy the Trinitron

Yeah, I'm leaning towards the Trinitron.

Can you elaborate on your recommendation, though?

>>3762647
if the samsung is curved buy that one. if theyre both flat buy the trinitron.

>>3762712
I own a similar model, a KV-32FS120, and it's great for retro.

I can't tell the model # for yours just by looking, but a model that big should have at least one s-video and probably one component input.

>>3762743
>tfw we have the same model

Should I get this thing?

I like this one just for the smallness and it's clean.

>>3762776
brotherrrrrr

>>3762647
It looks like the same Trinitron I have which does have component inputs in the back, it's a great set, and I'd invest in a Scart to component switch box from ebay so you can play games in RGB as good as a PVM

>>3762882
Does it have S-video?

>>3762607
>DIN = composite (R,Y,W)
The other anon just said that the din port was used for RGB.

>>3762803
I can't entirely tell, but as long as it isn't HD, yes.
If it's an FV310, double YES.

>>3762804
That's in fantastic shape, and a nice TV at that.

>>3761573
are you the Dxx double owner that has the 24 at the foot of your bed?

>>3762607
>>3762535
>>3762368
you fucking normies need to do some fucking googling before shitting up these threads....

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>3763137
damn i havent posted a pic in months, but yeah thats me. the other's a D20.

>>3763165
anon, i remember everything.

if you ever want to get rid of the d24 i'll trade you my d20 and my 14l5 (and any of the four 15khz rgb 800tvl monitors too) for it

you around western ny? let's play some vidja

>>3763338
I'm in the city, unfortunately. And I don't need any more monitors lol, but thanks. I wasn't considering selling this one at all, but $2k is a lot to pass up.

>>3763338
>>3763359
Uh oh Ny boys coming thru!

>>3762930
With a scart cable to a box to rgb, not a single cable. Right?
>>3763151
Sorry man, all the sites I've seen are written by autistic guys. This normie is trying to learn how to get the best picture.

>>3763408
your biggest hurdle is seeing the difference between cable types and video signals. SCART, DIN, RCA, BNC: these are just the names of ports/connectors, like USB. RGBS, Component, Composite, S-Video: these are video signals. These signals aren't limited to any one type of cable.

The yellow RCA port on your X'Eye outputs composite video. The DIN port outputs multiple types of video.To answer your main question, yes, there are DIN-to-SCART cables that you can use to get RGB from that port. You'll just need to make sure you have a method of connecting the SCART end to your display.

>>3763408
>With a scart cable to a box to rgb, not a single cable. Right?
If the port output RGB then it output RGB and that's it. All you need is the cable that carries the signals and that's it.
>Sorry man, all the sites I've seen are written by autistic guys. This normie is trying to learn how to get the best picture.
>muh autism
Just admit you don't want to search for shit and want to be spoonfed instead of relying on bullshit excuses.

I bought this SCART to Y-U-V adapter is it any good?

I wanna play Genesis on Component

After month of hunting for any sort of half decent CRT I just found a KV21FT1B for 20 bucks
Is it any good and does it actually support RGB input I'm probably being retarded but I can't seem to find any confirmation it supports it or not

>>3763452
Yes it does

My friend, a fellow crt enthusiast, stumbled upon two Commodore 1702 monitors on the street. He was nice enough to give me one of them, and luckily both of them ended up working after some drying out. After some DEEP cleaning (Fucker was literally brown) it's up and working beautifully. S-Video looks amazing, but the entire screen is tilted. I assume I can only fix that with a yoke adjustment? Composite looks too saturated and super blurry. I've already seen the focus pot on the inside, but I didn't want to adjust it because I don't know if it affects the S-Video's focus. Same thing with the colors. Any clue if the focus pot affects S-Video? And how simple is adjusting the yoke?

Photo: SNES through S-Video

>>3762804
I have the 14 inches version of this TV
Good stuff.

>>3763471
Looks like composite.

>>3763471
loosen a screw and remove/loosen the rubber tabs to rotate the yoke ever so slightly.

the focus pot affects s-video and you should adjust it. composite shouldnt look saturated, maybe your contrast is too high? but yes the focus pot will sharpen s-vid and composite.

Quick stupid question for anybody who has NESRGB with palette switching.

Can you switch palettes while its on?

>>3763526
Yes

>>3763610
Thank you!

>>3763646
>WARNING! YELLOW PERIL APPROACHING!

I picked up an Orion CRT today at a thrift store and it didn't come with a remote. Is there anyway to get it to the AUX/line out channel without one? Going below channel 3 doesn't work

>>3763660
You can use a universal remote or a Wii U gamepad. Some Android phones have IR blasters too.

>>3762964
It is an FV310. The giveaway is the dark bezel without a memory stick port to the left of the flip-down cover near the center-bottom under the bezel.

The HD Sony CRTs with the same dark bezel will all have the memory stick port, and the SD Sony CRTs other than the FV310 series all have a light bezel.

>>3762803
Yes! I have two of them, and love them. It will likely have geometry issues though.

>>3763428
I have read that you will need to open that one up and adjust the pots for the color encoding. Straight out of the box, these apparently have color-matching issues.

You should have done a bit more research and bought either the Shinybow or one made by Fusion.

>>3763678
>the SD Sony CRTs other than the FV310 series all have a light bezel.

NOT SO FAST CRIMINAL SCUM!

>>3763693
The FS320 has a different digital comb filter, no high-voltage regulator, and no sub-woofer. I don't know why anyone would want one anyway. If you prefer bloom for nostalgia reasons, you'd be better off with a FV300.

That said, it probably is just as good as any of the other FS models, and they can be excellent.

>>3763704
I wasn't recommending it, just pointing out that other SD models happen to have dark bezels and could conceivably be mistaken for an FV310 by the unwary.

>>3763713
Yeah, you're right. Anyone looking for an FV310 should avoid memory stick ports altogether.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/192089177324

>DAT CONDITION
>DAT PRICE

This shit is getting out of control!

>>3763873
Someone will greentext you alluding you to a whining child because some anon absolutely loses his shit any time someone mentions the ridiculous rising prices.

>>3763873
Frankly, PVM are way overrated.
Don't break your neck trying to find one.

>>3763873
>membrane buttons
>ideal for gamers
>flightcase

>>3763879
I've been following this seller for quite some time but this is the first time I've ever seen them targeting gamers. The scary thing is that this lot is even more expensive on bblist which makes me fume as there aren't anywhere near the same fees to pay.
>>3763881
Already got four BVM-20s, a PVM-2950 and a 27" Profeel not to mention a couple of extremely nice PC CRTs. I don't want or need this and paid less for my entire collection than the asking price for this one (probably fucked) 2130...

>>3763646

>>3763471
this looks shoped, the pixels, etc.
Anyway, focus pot is general regardless of source, usually only minor adjustement is needed.
C64 s-video is not exactly true s-video because it predates actual s-video standard (4 pin mini din, hi8, svhs), the connection is just 2 rcas. So you might wanna search info on signal levels, to correct an eventual discrepancy.

>>3763879
>2017
>not willing to pay a hundred dollars for a worn out, composite only consumer CRT with CNN screenburn that's been sitting in someone's attic for a decade, despite the seller kindly informing you that he "knows what it's worth"

Wow, blah blah fucking poorfags, blah blah supply and demand, blah blah entitled children, blah blah I can buy two worn out consumer CRTs a week with my adult salary.

>>3763989
You're retarded as fuck.

What is pic related and where can I get one?

[Hiryu Shoten Ha intensifies]

>>3764047
LOL

>>3764047
That's a video card (not graphics card) with a breakout board. Not sure which one or where to find it but try Ebay?

>>3764120 again
It's a Radeon X740. Good fucking luck finding one, as far as I can tell it's an OEM card so you might need to buy a whole prebuilt system from the early 2000's. Neat thing to know about though.

>>3764120
>>3764132
Thanks for putting me on the right track anon. I looks perfect for an emulation setup.

Apparently I just recently missed out on one. Will now set up an ebay alert.

>>3764174
Thanks for bringing it up. The Medion 8386 XL as whole looks like a very interesting computer to have. I myself might even have to setup an alert for it cause that thing is crazy.

>>3764190
I know right?

Looks like they did one with YPbPr out as well :)

>>3764047
>>3764174
>>3764210
it's probably just like other tv outs (downsampling chip), only with a more convenient rgb out. Some cards did the same with a 9 or 10 pin minidin and a breakout.

>>3764047
I almost guarantee it only outputs 480i.

>>3763873
Not quite for that price, but it's not as bad as some of the 2030s that sold in the past few months. And given that it does have a flight case, I'd agree to that adding at least some amount to the price. At the very least, ups your chances quite well of it arriving in one piece.

hey guys what's happening

I need a rec on a 240p -> 480p line doubler using component video in/out. Any ideas?

>>3764515
OSSC, if you can get one.

>>3764542
Ossc is hdmi out only IIRC.

>>3764549
For the pre-built units it's DVI due to HDMI licensing fees, but either would be fine for output in my case. Not sure if the HDMI spec OSSC does audio or not, but the DVI one won't for sure.
>>3764542
Was looking for something a bit cheaper. Shouldn't there be some $30 chink tier unit that does this, or something similar enough?

>>3764562
Hdmi, dvi... digital only I meant.
The other anon wants component in and out.

http://www.firebrandx.com/nespalette.html

>"Original Hardware (FBX)"
>This is the palette meant for CRT users. It will trigger the same reactions to the CRT phosphor as a real NTSC NES front-loader does. This is techncially a hybrid palette that used the composite direct capture results as a base to work from. Then from there, I reversed-engineered the intensity levels by outputting live 240p RGB into a PVM that was also getting live feed from an NTSC NES front-loader. Each palette entry was then tweaked until it caused identical phosphor reaction that the NES itself was causing. This is a critical advancement in palette accuracy as capture cards cannot do this. Effectively when you use this palette on a CRT, you will get the same experience as a real NTSC NES console, only with the benefit of a clean RGB picture. It even looks quite decent on digital displays, though obviously is not tuned for them (some darker hue values are too subtle for digital displays to distinguish to the human eye compared to CRT phosphor).

Has anyone tested this?

>>3764563
I am the other anon. It's for a capture card.

>>3764575
Just get a USB3HDCAP. Takes RGBs over VGA.

>>3764568
I have an usb blaster on the way for this. Will test when it arrives.

>>3764579
fuckin neat, thanks. Is sync sent over H or V?

>>3764584
H. It also requires clean sync and I've noticed some sound issues with arcade board. I just use a cheap usb sound capture device with it.

>>3764568
>>3764582
And to be clear, I have a NESRGB AVFamicom and another stock AVFamicom, so comparisons will be easy.

I just have a laptop right now, my CRT and desktop are packed in storage because I'm moving... But I'm missing the a e s t h e t i c of my CRT... is there any kind of emulators that simulate CRT scanlines, distortion, pixel bloom, etc? I haven't found any good ones.

>>3764594
There are lots of OK or "good" options, but all of them will add additional processing lag on top of normal emulator lag, most people don't care or can't feel it, but you probably aren't used to it. What system/game are you wanting to play?

Retroarch lets you use the same filter for any system it supports, which is nice
https://github.com/libretro/common-shaders/tree/master/crt
http://emulation-general.wikia.com/wiki/CRT_Geom

Can anyone help me? There is this old CRT monitor at work, but it's surrounded by a bunch of broken LCD monitors and I don't wanna look suspicious around it.

I tried my best to find info online so I'm hoping someone here has tried one of these before.

>>3764592
>>3764568
Authenticity and accuracy is nice and all, but using the composite picture generated by a CRT as an objective reference is just silly. There are always going to be variances in how different CRTs decide to decode a composite signal, so color matching to one CRT is not going to guarantee that it will look accurate to the composite generated by another.

At the very least, I would hope that the monitor they're using was properly calibrated and specifically, it's composite output.

>>3764660
http://marcotec.ro/media/00000007093.pdf
Advertised as a security monitor, so if that one has been used for said purpose, it's quite possibly got burn in from time code information/etc. You'd have to turn it on to test.

450TVL, so it's have a pretty decent picture for a 14'' monitor. That said, it's composite only, so if you were hoping for RGB/Component or even S-Video, you're out on that one.

>>3764690
is your trip a reference to my little pony?

>>3764690
It wasn't used for security footage, but for engineering simulations in 3D

Didn't even think about burn in. Next time they are doing a recycling run on old electronics I'm gonna see if I can bring this thing home. I'm fine with composite since I don't got any RGB cables for older consoles anyway.

>>3764697
Now where would you get such a silly idea like that from?
Just a Mega Man reference is all.
Was, previously, perhaps.

>>3764712
>it's not a ref to based Cody Rhodes
I'm sad

>>3763520
Thank you!

>>3763506
Well it isn't composite, as the port is clearly in photo not in use.

>>3763971
Uh, the pixels?
Anyway why wouldn't it be S-Video? From what I understand S-Video is Chrominance and Luminance, and the two RCAs on the back are labeled Luma and Chroma. I use the same 4-Pin Mini DIN to Y/C RCA adapter that I use for my Amiga 1080 with no issues, what possible discrepancies could happen?

>>3764697
Never heard of "dashing" as an adjective?

>>3764749
things like signal levels mostly. Monitors will probably adapt well enough to actual s-video, but it's known that C64 chroma output requires some tinkering to work well on standard s-video in.

Any opinions on whether or not it's worth hanging onto my Apex Digital PF3230 32" 480i tv? It's become rather cumbersome for our house (it weighs a ton and demands a lot of space). We're very much a retro household and currently have a couple consoles hooked up to it, but downsizing seems like a better idea. Is finding a quality CRT difficult these days? We've tried using a modern TV and the input lag for Tetris Attack is unbearable, so going without a CRT isn't an option.

>>3764756
A dashing person here? On /vr /?

I don't think so, pal

>>3764930
Check out your local thrift stores for Trinitrons. You want one with composite, s-video, and component inputs, but avoid models with DVI or HDMI, those are no good for retro.

>>3764749
>Uh, the pixels?
The way the bottom of the mask cuts off the tube sort of looks like the picture on the screen was shooped overtop of another picture. Similar enough to one's where I've composited a lit room shot with an unlit one, at least.

>>3764930
Check your local variation of craigslist to see what may be in the area before you chuck it. Without knowing where you live, no one can really say whether what you're going to find is decent or an actual downgrade.

Even classifieds like CL are tending to only have larger models in many areas, since they're harder to move and get rid of as opposed to the smaller to medium sized ones that many people still like to use.

Got this JVC AV-2132W1 for the equivalent of $10, is it any good?

>>3765134
Inputs

>>3764749
>Uh, the pixels?
yes, the pixels

>>3765134
>>3765137
>is it any good
Apart from having a frankly vile flat tube, yes

>>3765162
U was looking for a curved one, but couldn't find any in good shape. I live in a tiny town without a proper shop for these old tvs and other electronics

>>3765259
I
*quick fix*

I just bought a PVM 14M4U and the picture looks like this. It also emits a loud screeching noise while powered on.

What do

>>3765280
the screeching is most likely a broken flyback so you're fucked. Turn it of immediately and maybe think about throwing it away.

When will someone start producing 4'3 flatscreen monitors that perfect emulator crt's for retrogaming? I'm pretty sure there would be a demand for that especially considering real crt's are getting more expensive and dying

>>3765291
After waiting for a bit, the screeching stopped and the picture settled down.
However, the part in the middle keeps stretching out and back in. Idk which setting in the service menu will fix it

>>3765312
That's a problem with the horizontal drive circuit.

Not fixable in the service menu. It needs a technician.

>>3764690
PVMs are supposed to be reference monitors. As far as palette creation / translation goes, his approach makes the most sense. And given the lenghts he went to create them, I have no doubts he calibrated it.

On a related note,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MWn3kaUeqRw

I don't normally post in this thread
I have a Zenith 27" CRT, I think made in 2000 or something
Has nothing to do with what I'm gonna ask


Do you guys think some games are designed with input lag in mind due to HDTVs?
Playing Pac-Man CE2, and I feel like the game is trying to compensate my inputs as if I have a TV with noticable input lag (more than your usual HD monitor), and I'm wondering if this is an actual thing some developers do.
It's really pissing me off in this game, but I can't be 100% sure that's why it's happening

>>3765312
looks like the "sexy" setting in the menu. I can't imagine why it would go in and out, though.

>>3765507
>trying to compensate my inputs
In what way? Is it trying to predict your movement and moving for you? Because that would be incredibly weird to play.

>>3765532
I'll try my best to explain

It's Pac-Man, maze and stuff
Let's say you're moving left
You JUST went past a path to go down, you then press down because you wanna go down at the NEXT down-path
Your pac-man actually goes down the down-path behind you

I feel like this is a design choice to compensate for input lag or something.

Sorry for not retro, but anti-HDTV is pretty close to an on-topic CRT post

>>3765507
developers are certainly aware of it, but since the range is so wide on how long the total delay is, there isn't much they can do. I think it's more about making challenging gameplay easier (few tight jumps in platformers, auto-aim in console shooters, etc).
>>3765595
That's really irritating. I think there are some newer nintendo platformers that will forgive a jump at the end of a platform in the same way. Though for pac man that sounds like it should be able to turn off since you are basically queuing your next input and it serves as a detriment.

>>3765595
might have a larger and/or moved forward input window for turns compared to older versions, quite possibly on purpose because of modern display lag.

Anyone know what inputs a Sony KV-2184 MT has?

>>3765260
Don't sweat it, it's only a preference thing. I have both curved and flat, and they both look excellent.

>>3762893
Yes, has two composite inputs, an S-video input and component.

There's a FW900 on Ebay right now, just letting you guys know.

Hey guys, so I just found out my dad took our old Sony Trinitron KV 36 inch, similar to >>3757891, to the dump today and now I'm a bit upset because I wanted to set it up in my room. So now I'm looking into getting a new TV but I'm thinking now I would maybe get something between a 12-20 inch, I would mostly use it to play my SNES, N64, PS2, Gamecube and XBOX. Anyone have any suggestions I would really appreciate it. Papa bless.

>>3765415
I am entirely aware that PVMs(or rather BVMs) are intended as reference monitors. But composite encoding/decoding is inherently a variable process between different encoders and different decoders. Even if you're dealing with the same encoder(or rather generator) in the case of the NES, the composite output of any give CRT is going to give you slightly different results in the best of cases.

There's not many other ways to go about dealing with the issue, but you're never going to get 1 exact composite color that applies across every single CRT with absolute accuracy.

>>3766136
A similar model of a smaller size would be a good place to start. There aren't too many KV-FS models that are 20 or under, so you may have to move up to a 24'' model to actually have a chance of finding something.

Without delving into all types of extra equipment/hardware/cabling, you'll get the best out of you SNES/N64/GC with S-Video, and PS2/XBOX with Component, which most all of the KV-24FS*** models should have at least 1 of the former and 1 of the latter.

If S-Video is enough for you, I'd suggest possibly looking into some of the older, non FD("Flat") black cased Trinitrons from the 90s. Really all depends on what you can find and is available to you. Check your local craigslist or equivalent and see what's there, or even just link it here.

>>3765640
Composite + Mono

With SECAM decoding.

>>3766193
>Composite + Mono
>With SECAM decoding.

>euro crt
>but not european enough to have scart
that's a bit sad.

>>3766203

What the FUCK is vtr

>>3766193

Thank you for responding, also ya that actually sounds pretty good, I can go up to 24 inches, just need to make a bit of extra room. Also is there an all in one S-Video cable for the SNES/N64/Gamecube that is worth getting?

>>3766220
Video Tape Recorder

You got one of those green connectors anon?

>>3766232
I'm just perusing jewlist right now and spotted a pvm 1390, and was just a little interested. What is the connector on the sync on green called, and what types of inputs does it take?
Does anyone maybe have a pinout for it?

>>3766252
Nevermind, realized that's just a printer cable port

>>3766224
I don't blame you for wanting to downsize, even the 32'' FD Trinitrons are massive immovable boat anchors.

Assuming you're in the US, if you can locate 1 quality S-Video cable for any of those three Nintendo systems, it will work correctly on the other two.

>>3766252
VTR is similar to SCART or HDMI in function. All signals in one connector. In this case, it's Composite and Mono Audio.

Sync on Green is the label for the switch. That connector is the "CMPTR" (Computer) port, and uses a DB25. Uses the same pinout as the PVM-2030/2530. That is to say, that's your RGB input.

https://www.retrogamingcables.co.uk/sony-av-accessories/sony-pvm/sony-pvm-scart-converter

>>3766256
it's a DB25 but it's obviously not a printer port...

>>3766259

Ya that Anchor was almost about 200 pounds. Also would this work since all 3 systems use the same cable?

>>3766260
Who knows, maybe it was a male printer output?
No, I realize I was an idiot
>>3766259
Thanks for the info. Sounds like a cool little monitor, but at 13" I think I'll pass it by. I've already got a tiny lad on my desk.

>>3766269
Sorry forgot link...
https://www.amazon.com/Gam3Gear-SNES-Nintendo-Gamecube-Video-Cable/dp/B00LE3EAIK/ref=sr_1_1?s=videogames&ie=UTF8&qid=1485657207&sr=1-1&keywords=nintendo+s-video+cable

Is there any way to fix this dip in the top of my monitor? The settings in the OSD don't help at all and I've heard this is just an issue the 915FT has.

>>3766269
>>3766274
it'll work, but those have way too thin svideo cable so you'll run into checkerboard.

Are there any rear projection tv's that are old enough to work well with 5th gen?
I've seen quite a few with s-video and component, but sometimes also hdmi which leads me to believe it may not be the best.

>>3758617
It's not
It's a phenomenal monitor

4:3 pillarboxed in a 16:9 screen kinda sucks though but that's not the fault of the display itself

Anyone know anything about rca's eia multiout ports?

>>3766334
Found some more info, I think it's just a scart port but wired for A/V.

>>3766285

Is there an S-Video cable that's better to use? I'll keep looking around but if you have one or a few worth getting I would appreciate it.

>>3766334
>ports
SCART port under a different name. The Dimensia is NOT wired for RGB, so it's just an extra Composite + Stereo Audio input.

It might be possible to modify the set to actually have it make use of RGB, but you could go through that exact process with a newer and potentially better set. The only benefit of doing it with the Dimensia is the connector already being there, and for the aesthetic look of the set(s).

>>3766338
Three absolutely safe bets would be an official Nintendo cable, a Hori made cable, or (again, amusingly) a Monster branded cable.

>>3766340
If you've got experience with the Dimensia, how does it look through s-video? Great or just passable?

>>3766340

Wow, I didn't know the official Nintendo cables were that much, but it's not that big of a deal. One last question real quick. Should I stick with the component cables that came with the PS2 and XBOX?

TV identification help, please.
The seller says its a 32" Sharp tv (and gives no other info/pictures), but I can't find any such model that has the sharp logo on the bottom left like this.

QUICK
Post your current favorite monitor + your favorite console to play on it.

>>3766476
NEC XM37
original Xbox

>>3766493
>NEC
pics in action plz, not many around.

Anyone know how to disable EDID in Windows 10? I'm about ready to go back to 7 cause this is pissing me off.

>>3766510
Pretty sure you can't. And 7 has nearly the same problems I think.
You have to break the EDID pin or use VGA-BNC if your monitor has BNC inputs.

>>3766515
It has BNC but I don't have cables for it right now. Is the EDID pin always the same one on VGA?

>>3766531
yes. some clever dude broke the pin on that small vga extender from voodoo cards to use on any monitor.

>>3766538
Alright, thanks for the info. I don't think I'll be doing that right now as I only have one VGA cable long enough and it's the original one for my monitor. As it stands I can force Windows into recognizing it as a generic "analog display" by hotswapping DVI adapters. Not sure why this works but it does.

>>3766507

Not him, but I can post something from my NEC XP29.

>>3766552
go ahead please, rarer stuff is always welcome

>>3766510
Extron do various EDID spoofers.

Look into getting one.

>>3766476
Toshiba 14AF44
Sega Genesis

RPi with a SCART cable > Breakout to S-Video on my 12-13 inches telly

>>3767247
You playing street fighter interlaced? gross

>>3766476
Ikegami HTM 2050R, and sega saturn.

Give me a list of your guys' favorite Follin soundtracks

>>3767368
Whoops wrong thread

>>3767342
It's not interlaced, it's shadow mask.

It's 240p

>>3767383
what monitor is it? All my Ikegami's have blank lines, and they are shadowmasks.

>>3767387
Toshiba 14AF44

It's actually a triad slot mask, but I call them shadowmasks due to their similarities.
The scanlines are harder to see because of the triangular mosaic it makes. I prefer it that way.

>>3767415
That's some really great color

>>3767387
>>3767387
scanline thickness depends on a variety of factor (tv size, display technology)

shadowmask are more common in europe and you won't notice scanlines on smaller television sets. It also depends on the number of TV lines

these slot television sets usually look smoother and sharper when looked from afar

pic related, this is what you call a slotted shadow mask

>>3767471
>shadowmask are more common in europe
They're common everywhere.

>>3766476
Lacie Electron22blue
old PC

Hello guys, could I get some help from you?
I want to get either a crt monitor for pc or television for quite some time now and recently a store that has old electronic equipents opened nearby and I want to finally get a crt.

I pretty much only play retro games and my backlog is huge so I'm sure I have enough games to last me years, but of course, only through emulation.

I have some doubts though, I'm not sure what to do since I only play on my computer through emulation, should I get a pc monitor (probably not a very good one) or maybe a Sony Trinitron (there are small ones there) and somehow use an adapter to connect it to my pc and play games?
I'm at a loss here, I have no clue what to do but I've been itching to stop using shitty filters and play on the real deal for a while and I feel like this is the right time to finally get a crt.

Any recommendations? I'm from a PAL region too btw, so I think SCART is a thing.
Also, they have a couple ps1 for sales but I'm pretty sure they are PAL too, can I somehow play NTSC games on the console through some kind of trick?

Thanks and sorry for sounding so stupid and new but I'm having a bit of trouble on my own.

>>3751086
>Looking through Media production, hospitals, and other professional work places to pick up a fucking CRT.

In what land does anon live in? Where I am from, most of these professionals will tell you to fuck off if you go around asking for old surplus electronics. Saudi Arabia is a real shit hole for looking for anything decent other than those VHS CRT combos from early 2000.

>>3767712
Well as a general rule AV technicians will help you if you're polite, as you're basically riding them of old hardware no one use anymore but that they have to keep for reasons. At least here it's the case.

>>3767712
Tell them you're building a bomb and you need their PVM

>>3757238
Your mother spent 3k on my 9" last night ;^)

How's Sanyo as a brand?

>>3767886
depends what it outputs.

>>3767905
This one's got 2 s-video and a component output.

>>3767906
Then take it.

>>3767913
Guess I've got a little road trip ahead of me; it's low price but about 45 minutes away from me.

>>3767918
Squadellah! We're off!

HP P1130

Worth a punt at £15 and a five hour round trip?

>>3768026
If you don't already own a monitor in the same size range, sure.
I bet a dreamcast would look beautiful on it.

Would the simplest way of getting a nice picture be, emulating from the Wii with component on a CRT?

I'm gonna open up my HD CRT to fix the geometry. I already did everything I could with the service menu.

What's the best thing to tweak and what safety precautions should I take?

>>3768105
Don't do it if you have no experience.

>>3767383
The RPI only outputs 480i

>>3768126
I have none but I really need to fix this geometry.

>>3767471
If your display is <10", you won't notice the scanlines from a playable distance. I speak as someone with numerous 13, 14" monitors, one 9" monitor, and one 20" monitor, the only one which scanlines are hard to perceive is the 9" monitor. Everything else has them as clear as day.

>>3768132
Wrong. It only outputs 480i from the composite headphone jack.

It can do 240p with an expansion port.
This is 240p.