/vr/ - Retro Games

=== NEWS ===

[Til 3-15] Dropbox will be dropping support of public folders in mid-March; now is a good time to mirror any Doom-relevant files available through this

[12-21] Intermission, a Doom/Retro FPS podcast by Term and friends, wraps up the year with E1M8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-75U6NLVuKY

[12-20] QUMP formalized; get mapping!
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Zlfb2U2VCeS70uS6Klc2ZEOC9KtnYyCyBXEmeetjh0c/edit

[12-19] DUMP 3 weapons finally finished!
http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=52276&start=1335#p963461

[12-19] Arcane Dimensions 1.5 Patch released
https://twitter.com/SimsOCallaghan/status/810575969408925696

[12-18] PortaDoom Alpha 2 released; a HUGE portable WAD collection in 90's disk-zine format
https://mega.nz/#!r4JCEZbY!6QCM6RjLuvLp8Pxac6wJICLRidiblhWxrOsFFSjajSw

[12-16] A keyboard with displays on each key can run Doom
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q7b9glYuAXw&feature=youtu.be

[12-16] DOOM-Crusher released; this tool can recursively optimize and reduce file sizes of your WAD and PK3 files
https://github.com/Kroc/DOOM-Crusher

[12-12] DOOM Resurrected, a documentary series about Nu-Doom by Noclip, is being released in parts
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL-THgg8QnvU4TMnDoFcI-vtJKwP2oLgyH

[12-12] Brutal Doom 64 2.0 released
http://www.moddb.com/mods/brutal-doom-64/downloads

[12-10] The 13th Cacowards were announced in celebration of Doom's 23rd birthday!
https://www.doomworld.com/23years/

[12-10] New Mapset
https://www.doomworld.com/vb/wads-mods/91952-chainworm-kommando-v1-0-released/

[12-10] Colourfull hell got updated to 0.88
http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=47980

[12-7] DoomRL source code released!
https://github.com/ChaosForge/doomrl

===

PROTIP: If you would like to submit any news or your personal map releases here, please reply/backlink to this post.

first for caco a cute

>>3692385
> not doom
> funny
It's been a fucking while. Well done.

Kinda wanna do a .wad based on keygen music. What ports support mod-music?

>GZDoom Builder supports resizes texture preview
F I N A L L Y

>>3692419
ZDoom does

>>3692419
>Resizing textures
You could just make an .m3u playlist of keygen music and play that in ZDoom with the playlist command and bind playlistnext / playlistprev, making a wad out of it is overkill unless you really want the same jukebox UI everyone else seems to use. https://zdoom.org/wiki/CCMDs:Other#Music_control

I shall try making a level now.
Been thinking about dem corridors.

>>3692426
Kinda meant a mapset. Bitesized things that last about single keygen loop on first attempt.

I need to finish Disjunction first, though...

I have been replaying the same map with different mods for two weeks now.
This isn't good.

>>3692446
Must be a good map then. Care to share?

>>3692448
I care to share.
https://www.doomworld.com/vb/wads-mods/85749-a-short-city-themed-map/

I like the open street and the carnage.
The only fucked uo thing is that the main street has an invisible hell baron on a platform.

Trying it out with colorful hell now.
Pretty challenging stuff.

Releasing the map now because I may forget about it if I wait much longer. Single player boom compatible map. Small to medium sized and no difficulties implemented.
Download:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B4mwJRa7e5VpaWtFRkJsRVYxNnc/view?usp=sharing

Play with the resources from this wad loaded:
https://www.doomworld.com/vb/wads-mods/92010-christmas-doom-compilation-vanilla-compat/

Or get the version that has the resources in the wad itself:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B4mwJRa7e5VpMGM4Z1NrNTJyY0k/view?usp=sharing

Happy holidays!

>>3692456
I spent like half a minute laughing at the fist replacement while bashing pinky demons.

Really good music though

>>3692456
FDA if you're interested: http://puu dot sh/sXM7k/5441bdb865.lmp

You know what they say.

Doomers and life, uh, find a way.

>>3692537
He's a big guy

>>3692537
I really dont like this design, it should be more slim, and head looks just retarded, especially the "horn"

>>3692552
I heard the Cyberdemon in Doom 4 was suppose to look like some kind of demonically transformed version of Doom4guy. See the overall armored look that looks like the suit a bit and how it has 10 toes.

How does Doom 4 tie into Doom 1/2/64?
Doom guy is implicitly the same fellow having been trapped in Hell, ripping and tearing, but UAC has never heard of him, so he's not that guy who refused to shoot unarmed civilians. Unless he's been fighting in Hell so long (until he was refrigerated) that the universe as we know it did a full loop
and that's a long time

>>3692569
He was fighting demons in hell after 64 for a very, very long time. Till he was finally captured by the demons and had his armor removed and then himself sealed in a coffin. He wakes up from that coffin at the start of Doom 4.

>>3692569
my theory is
>D64
>doomguy stays in hell to rip and tear for eternity
>does it so long that he eventually settles down
>demon trickery happens
>rip and tear part deux
>gets crushed by temple and sealed in coffin
>uac from another dimension retrieves coffin
>D4 happens and doomguy rips and tears again

>>3692582
and somehow all of the fan-made wads link into that as well

other dimensions and stuff

>>3692569
It's pretty open. There are suggestions that he's another Doomguy, one that got betrayed by the demons after selling out his order, but it may be someone else entirely.

>>3692582
>the only way the demons could stop him was to drop a temple on him
>the ceiling collapsed and he was trapped, and not able to kill

>>3692592
>even ironic bad fanficion is canon
the most meta lore out there

>>3692556
I heard that the reason why he's all rotten, filled with holes and cracks and his horn is missing is that he was excavated out from under the ruins of an ancient tower, then resurrected with UAC science magic and argent.

Everyone probably knows which tower we're talking about, and why he died. Protip: Shoot him until he dies.

>>3692456
>>3692508

Ugh all this christmas shit gives me horrendous flashbacks to Duke Nukem 3d Nuclear Winter. God damn that campaign sucks ass. Fortunately it was the first expansion I played. DC was great, Caribbean was amazing.

>>3692636
Yeah but unlike nuclear winter, this anon put some effort into his map.

Man, arcane dimentions is hard

>>3692587
That guy is different then Doom guy since the Demon Voice thing never mentions that person when talking about the Doom Slayer

>>3692656
no shit sherlock

>>3692656
Mostly thanks to the new enemies they put in who're much more aggressive then the typical enemies plus the levels are pretty long and sometimes confusing. At least the triple shotgun makes short work out of the enemies.

>>3692637
It makes me happy to hear that.

>>3692514
And thanks for the demo, no better way to learn than to watch other people play your map.

>>3692587

Are you talking about the guy in Hell who helped the Doomslayer and N'Nurians forge the Praetor? That's the only betrayal I recall. The wretch going against hell to help the slayer.

>>3692673
I guess I misunderstood it, then. I thought it was the same game, and that they named him Doom Slayer only when he started tearing their forces.

>>3692687
>N'Nurians

*D'Nurians

>>3692689
Yeah the Doom Slayer is the guy from DOOM-DOOM 64 but the Betrayer and Doom Slayer are different people

>>3692687
I thought the guy who made the armor was a demon?
And no, I was talking of the one who betrays Argent D'nuir to Hell in order to get his son. I thought it was the Doomguy, since the Night Sentinels ghosts seem to know him. Or at least respect him.

>>3692704
By the Betrayer, you mean the guy who made the armor, or the guy who betrayed Argent Something?

>>3692707
The guy who Betrayed Argent whatever because the Icon of Sin was his son.

The person who made the armour was some women from Earth/another Earth.

>>3692707
I thought the Doom Guy just joined the Knight Sentinels after find him and the Betrayer was someone else since Doom Guy never had a family mentioned. Unless he had a kid with the women who gave him future UAC armour

>>3692713
I almost forgot that. I should replay it.

Also, source for that? I may have missed a log saying more about the Blacksmith.

>>3692715
Well. Here goes my theory that the Doomguy is pissed that Hell killed his son.
Turns out he's just furious that they murdered Daisy.

>DooM now has a complex lore behind it
You learn something new every day

What happened to the anon making a standalone version of the Security Officer class from Samsara?

>>3692721
Here's something else : the Doomguy (well, the Doomslayer) now has a personality beyond RIP AND TEAR.
He get mad when Scientist McRobot says it's all for science and the greater good, take a good look at a dead body when listening to McRobot's bullshit, and decides to break the argent energy filters rather than just deactivating them.

>>3692721
Doom 4's story is surprisingly well written and interesting.

>>3692718
If you listen to the demon logs and read the data logs it mentions "the wench" who gave him the armour. If you look at the armour it has a serial number and UAC on it

>>3692718
The Betrayer could be the Doomslayer but the Demon logs never mention them taking the Doomslayers child

>>3692728
I thought it was just an insult.

>>3692385
I don't know much about Quake 1 but does DOOM 2016 tie into it? I know it involves Hell

>>3692730
So the Betrayer is basically John Romero's dad?

>>3692734
Doom and Quake are different universes entirely.

>>3692734
No. Quake is about Lovecraft stuff. Not Christian mythology.

>>3692731
Yeah but it raises the question of who this women was and where did she get the new armour. She either brought it from the original Earth the Doomslayer is from or is from another Earth entirely. This is just guess work though

>>3692737
>>3692738
Oh ok my bad. I never played Quake when I was younger like I did DOOM. I was wondering since DOOM 2016 deals with different dimension

>>3692741
It's a woman?

>>3692745
Quake doesn't follow the rest of the games. Even if there are theory the Ranger is Blazchowitz's descendant and Doomguy's ancestor, it doesn't have any base in the game.
Plus the Ranger loses his sanity during Quake (according to the flavour text), while the Doomguy is still fine.

>>3692745
Every Quake game is different as Quake back in the day was basically id's idea bucket. The only ones that went into each other were Quake 2 and Quake 4, which were basically generic army games with added occasional body horror.

>>3692748
And torture porn.
Because don't tell me the scene in Quake 4 was mandatory to the scenario.

>>3692747
>>3692748
Ah thanks guys I'll try my hand at them in a bit

>>3692750
The Stroggifacation scene in Quake 4 is legit the only memorable part of the game.

>>3692725
The Demons even mention he's pure and incorruptible

>>3692757
So you agree with me?

>>3692758
>Doomguy
>pure
... I have read too many hentais.

Is it possible to run Doombuilder under Linux? If not, does it at least run nicely in a VM?

>>3692765
Best you could do is just try running it in a latest build of Wine. I think SLADE3 works natively with Linux though.

>>3692768
>I think SLADE3 works natively with Linux though.
It does, but the map editing is SHIET. Everything else is super nice though.

>>3692723
ded

RIP

>>3692820
BUT I DON'T WANT TO HAVE TO DEAL WITH ALEPH ONE'S MOUSELOOK
WAAAA

>>3692679
I think the standard shotgun has been buffed too. Takes only 3 shots to kill scrags and knights instead of 4.

>>3692741

its a rather strange idea

But why does this wench sounds like A certain scientist from UAC, it would be interesting if she did infact survived and stayed in hell after the gate was sealed on Site 1

she would be fighting the forces of hell by her own after the engineer died fighting betruger, thus she should had learned a lot about hell tech by then

Unless the Wench is Crash from Q3A or the Demoness from Hexen II, and the serpent riders were the Generals of the 3rd Dark Lord

>>3692830
Plus it's also a projectile attack now.

>>3692747
that was from generations arena timeline

>>3692831
I doubt it. Hell wouldn't bother giving her a name, they would just say "some bitch".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iKujQuKa6Jo

fucking asians, man, how do they work?

>>3692831
Pretty sure they said wretch not wench.

>>3692856
It is wretch. Unless someone has something else.
http://doom.wikia.com/wiki/Codex/Artifacts
Slayer's Testament VI

>>3692861
>wikia
no

>>3692849
This person must have a boner for Reaper in overwatch.

>>3692882
indeed
the wikia wiki should be nuked

the .org one is way better.

>>3692861
>using doomguy 2000's wiki

Why is aleph one such shit?

regretting putting off unreal for so long, the level design and atmosphere is 10/10

>>3692861
Ah my bad I thought they said wench so I assumed it was a women who gave him the armour.

Who was the guy who talked to the Doomslayer when he woke up?

>>3692898
the music too

>>3692887
Because sadly not enough people care/know about Marathon to make a better port for it.

>>3692902
>Who was the guy who talked to the Doomslayer when he woke up?

Here's an idea:
He's Death. And he was also The Wretch. The reason why he helps doomguy is that he enjoys murder indiscriminately, and doomguy is an expert at slaughter.

>>3692902
An angel.

wheres the anon who said he would stream doom wads? do something ffs

>>3692849
Every time I see Black Warrior update, there's always something that makes me wonder how the fuck he did it.

>>3692932
wasn't that anon's suggestion of streaming wads shot down as something that nobody was interested in?

>>3692385
>>3692385
did that horror wad ever get finished? I can't remember the name of it but it was super detailed. It had animated grass, fog and it was through the lens of a grainy camera

>>3692942
iirc only one person outright said "no". Another person said "if you play interesting stuff", and another person said "if you play terrywads".

>>3692905
>dat ending music
Hnng

>>3692887
At least it's not the Windows 95 port of Marathon 2.

>>3692947
>the rrajigar mines music
Hnnng.

>>3692963
https://soundcloud.com/funkyrustic/flightcastle-2
By the lord himself.

what's the most colorful texture wad you've ever used? I want to combine something with the wobbly shader

tried the two expansion packs, arcane dimentions and nothing seems to invoke the feeling that vanilla quake made me feel when i first played

>>3692979
>dimentions
geez

>>3692974
If my ears could cum, I would be deaf.

>>3692942
I might try to streem some Heretic instead if anyone is interested. Just give me about 10 minutes to set stuff up.

>>3692986
i'm up for anything desu

>>3692986
just use steam broadcasting

it's EZ and not cancerous like twitch

takes literally 20 seconds to configure and set up


all you gotta do is add your heretic executable as a non steam game

>>3692990
Isn't steam broadcasting still a laggy and unoptimized piece of trash?

>>3692998
nope. equal to twitch nowadays.

the problem was that people who can't broadcast in the first case were trying to broadcast; they lacked the internet speeds to do so.

that and lots of improvements over the last 2 years
I think it's pretty great desu

>>3692986
http://www.hitbox.tv/deepsee
Stream is up.

>>3692990
Don't do that if it requires Steam to watch though. I don't have Steam.

>>3693014
You can watch it with your browser, I think.

>>3693013
>log in to chat

>>3693015
>>3693014
yup. firefox/chrome/IE/safari

>>3692385
>doom babbies
:^)

>>3692990
>>3692998
>>3693004

Last I checked steam broadcast it was still a piece of shit.

that was quick

>>3693023
dunno where you got that from. works great for me.

v hates everything so if v says it's shit it doesn't mean anything

Works on my computer

>>3693027
>dunno where you got that from.

Watching Steam broadcasts.
I mean, if it works for you, great. But it's definitely not a reliable option for Anon-Come-Lately.

>>3693020
>IE

>>3693031
can those same people stream with a different program any better (at the same quality)?


I sometimes watch random friends on steam play games; people that never stream at all or don't know that steam broadcasting existed

it's always been perfectly fine...

Man, this area needs some heavy recolouring later on.
At least the bridge works now.
Stupid amount of lines though, gonna trim it later...

>>3693040

Hmmm, now that you mention it.

Only a couple people I know of has tried both, using OBS to stream on either Hitbox or Twitch compared to using Steam broadcast. Both were pretty bad on Steam but good on the streamsite. But, well, two does not a reliable test group make.
There might be some external factor at work.

>>3693013
>log in to chat

>>3693054
>no confirmation email required

https://twitter.com/tdDaz/status/811214745848180736

Simon OCallaghan (Arcane Dimensions co-creator) on Qump:
>I'm not convinced this is the best way to learn mapping; its more likely to adopt bad entity habits and inefficient building methods

Thanks for the motivation, Simon

Man, what's the deal with Doom 2 in Name Only?
I really want to enjoy it and it's a great concept, but the maps seem to take only the worst of D2 and Doom games in general.
I just finished The Crusher and fucking DESPISED every single second of it, and Dead Simple seems an unfun clusterfuck even (especially?) after killing the Spider.
Am I weird for saying I'd rather replay D2 for the trillionth time than go on with that?
Any other opinions?

>>3693080
so what would you say is the best way to learn mapping, simon, if not by fucking making maps?

>>3693089
I fucking hate D2INO's The Crusher. I have never completed that wad just because of how much of a demotivator that single map is. No map should be that tedious.

>>3693013
A-a-and it's down so don't bother joining now.

Well that was a fun stream

>>3693089
I stopped at The Crusher. Long, boring, lacked direction. Just a terrible map.

hory shieeeeeeet

http://steamcommunity.com/games/405820/announcements/detail/543079817035237080

>>3693089
>>3693108
D2INO is a fine example of why you're supposed to come up with a name for your map AFTER you finish making it, and not before. If you think The Crusher is bad, it's only because you haven't experienced the slog that is The Citadel.

so, how do i change music on SLADE

i need to remove the stupid shit that DOOM:One has

Also, dear goodness!

My Thanks to the anon who showed that vgmusic still exists, some of the Super Metroid arrangements sounds like BP's music at his prime

>>3693089
i like dead simple

>>3693121
OH shit, I thought it was never going to happen.

>>3693121
You know since the engine works almost like Zdoom with SLADE3 compatible package files, it will be probably a breeze making custom.. everything.

Speaking off modding, I've managed to rewrite DoomShock's weapon sprite drawer from hudmessage (blech) to A_WeaponOffset. Means better performance, infinitely more sensible decorate (yay, actual sprite names) and compatibility with dynamic light, sector color etc.

>>3693129

1: Go to music file in Slade.
2: Right click music file.
3: Select Import.
4: Select your music file to replace it with.
5: PROFIT.

>>3693132
Why do i have a feeling this is gonna be incompatible with 90% of wads

>>3693121

oh yes

What's the best level editor for quake ?

>>3693148
I'm getting Alien vibes.

>>3693151

trenchbroom

>>3693138
Well any gameplay mod that touches weapons or powerups won't be compatible since it's a full replacement for those, but it should work with all levels and monster replacements.

>>3693119
You don't know just how lucky you are to have stopped instead of putting literally a hour and a half into it to examine every single passage again and again until you get to the right one because, hey, maps -do- get better once you get over the now-devoid-of-enemies labyrinths right?
No, the map gives you a huge, disappointing, anger-inducing, unfun FUCK YOU, putting you in an unexitable square labyrinth filled with cocoas (hey, that's not bad right?) that FLY OVER WALLS (ok, so it may get a it clusterfucky but it's not that-) and bakes the shit by filling it with ARCH-VILES. Yes. Obviously they DO revive the cacos even if they die on top of the wallsOh did I mention said room has NO HEALTH BONUSES and generally nothing besides a fuckload of rocket (YES, ROCKETS IN A LABYRINTH) ammo?.
I spent TWO HOURS getting to the end, trying again and again, to get to the end and SURPRISE the ceiling comes down on you and you can't really avoid it, you just have to get the megasphere and run to the start
A fun and engaging experience, 9.6/10 would invest time again

>>3693115
Welp, XSplit can hook glboom-plus now so maybe I'll do another choppy stream tomorrow but something different and will start earlier. I won't do Ultimate Doom + blessed.deh or Mars Operations. But I'm itching to do so though

>>3693174
>Blessed Engine
Do it.

>>3693178
I've tried that and it might actually work but expect me to be paranoid of absolutely everything.

>>3693209
Eh, I'm fine with that.

Where do I get the Quake wad misters

>>3693225
read the op

>>3693225
>wad
>quake
jeez

>>3693225
https://www.quaddicted.com/reviews/

Retro Jam 6 Rules are up

>http://celephais.net/board/view_thread.php?id=61387

Hey, cursor-ified the gatling. Also, now it's a rocket gatling and has an animated ammo feed made from spider legs.

>>3693252

FUUUUUCCK

This is amazing

fuck

>>3693258

>>3693258
wat

>>3693258
help

>>3693263
>>3693264
>>3693267
Well I'm fucked

>>3693258
>>3693267
>>3693271

Nigga what are you doing.

>>3693252
Is that all TEXTURES? if so: explain yourself

>>3693282
Showing to the world why they say no one has ever beaten Doom.

jesus fuck

the doom remixes of Super Metroid soundtrack on VGMusic are sick

some good ones
>www.vgmusic.com/music/console/nintendo/snes/My_Lower_Brinstar.mid
>http://www.vgmusic.com/music/console/nintendo/snes/Super_Metroid_-_Ridley_Theme_Remix_V1_1.mid

>>3693284
>Is that all TEXTURES
Yes.

>if so: explain yourself
This is what unemployment does to me. send help

>>3693295
I hope you never get a job again.

I say this with the best of intentions.

>>3693295
What did you work with?

>>3693225
you should be able to just google it.

>>3693229
yeah for quake mapping you need the quake textures, which tend to be stored in a .wad

>>3693301
>>3693308
I do have a seasonal job a bit more than half of the year.

Anyway, put the contents of this pastebin:
>http://pastebin.com/28YBKe5J
into a TEXTURES lump and you can see how the thing is made yourselves. The only part that was hard rather than just time consuming was the barrel rotation because offsets need to be pixel-perfect to maintain the illusion.

>>3693313
>yeah for quake mapping you need the quake textures, which tend to be stored in a .wad
I'm aware of that (Goldsource uses wads for textures as well) But I doubt someone would the whole ID1 folder EXCEPT quake.wad

>>3693315
>I do have a seasonal job a bit more than half of the year.
What is it?

>>3693318
Way to fucking invade Anon's privacy.

>>3693321
>Anon (You)

>>3693324
me?

>>3693327
ye

>>3693317
I had to download it separately, its not in the original quake files, and doesn't come with quakespasm

>>3693324
:^)

>>3693318
I'd rather talk about playing and modding doom anon.

>>3693334
Are you a manwhore?

what the fuck

Does /doom/ rename their wads for better organization? How does /doom/ organize it?

here's my spaghetti mess of a GZDoom folder.

>>3693357
I'll download a wad and play it, when I'm done, I remove it. I have separate folders for maps I've made and resource wads.

>>3693357
Mine is a chaotic labyrinth with many folders I haven't opened for several years. There's a total of like 8 "doom2.wad" in there and many executables.

>>3693291
>doom remixes
They're called midis.

>>3693271

>that spectre

>>3693372
It's actually ten Spectres inside of each other.

>>3693374
Sure it ain't a MegaSpectre then?

>>3693374
I remember stacking ten revenants on each other and they instantly killed me when I got close

>>3693380
pic related

>>3693382
No shit.

>>3693371
>being this stupid

Nigga stop walking around on /v/, he was a making a point about something GUD

also VGmusic still exists?

>>3692391
Xeotroid released his cover of the TNT soundtrack

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=He3F4CQFZVY

>>3693374
An Archon?

>>3693394
A Megaspectre, as noted by >>3693380

>>3693391
two stars

>>3693357

>>3693357
Thinking about using ZDL and putting each file into categorized folders.

what happens when you merge a bunch of megaspheres together

>>3693445

>>3693450
actually looks more like soulsphere juice, maybe a shield belt would be more appropriate

>>3693457
just imagine juicing a soulsphere like one would an orange

Is there any enjoyable and good atmosphere RPG made with same engine? I tickle my mind but cannot remember if I saw one

>>3693527
MIND
FUCKING
B L O W N

>>3693531
unf

>>3693527
>just imagine juicing a soulsphere like one would an orange
So pic related?

>>3693532
wow seems fun anon

>>3693537
>doesn't know the meme
My sides are dying

>>3693539
will you go away if I don't reply?
hopefully a non-autistic retard would provide a proper answer to my question.

>>3693545

Who pissed in your cheerios?
There's been several RPG mods made with the engine, like Serpent Resurrection.
Or if you want a full game, try Strife.

>>3693545
Fine, I'll give you a proper answer:
If by "the same engine" you mean idTech 1, then you're probably thinking about Strife.
The meme is that we're supposed to reply "unf" whenever someone posts that picture

>>3693549
>>3693550
Thanks.
I just read my post again and can't stop laughing right now.
>non-autistic retard
see how your meme got me angry to tpyo my thoughts out

>>3693537
>>3693552
You just gave me the urge to find out if unf.com exists

>>3693556

OH FUCK

>>3693556
what the heck

rip anon, after visiting unf.com he contracted 54934509812342300 netherworld computer viruses and became zero patient for hells invasion.

>>3693556
Jesus fuck what

>When you get ambushed on both sides, panic, and go straight for the flamethrower to kill everything around you

>>3693679 I recall a game mod -- wasn't it reelism? Where fire weapons were actually really fuckin dangerous because you would light a foe aflame and they would start runnign around uncontrollably on fire and right into you and you would burn along with them. Really put me off fire weapons for a bit.

>>3693696
its Marathon

>>3693696
maybe rott or strife

>>3693696
I like the flamethrower in Marathon because it's a good alternative to killing a group of organic/unarmored enemies real easily (as opposed to the fusion pistol), but I always hesitate to use it more often because of the fact that you have about three canisters of gasoline (which is comparatively low ammo to other weapons) but I also forget the fact that each tank of gas actually has quite a lot of fuel to burn. It's one of those "use it for a tight situation" weapons for me, not quite as expendable as say Doom's rocket launcher or plasma cannon.

what if the cacowards was presented entirely in a self-contained wad?

first ever interactive cacowards

>>3693784

If they let me code that next year, I'd totally be up for that.

>>3693784
Dat filesize tho

>>3693786
>code that
lmao. it would be a boom compatible wad so people could speedrun it, dumbass

>blow 100 dollars on steam games
>I still have to play 10000 doom/quake maps

>>3693804
>paying for games
>buying new games when you have almost infinite free content

>people discussing Doom 2016 in its respective doomworld general forum
>user presents complaint about how it's somehow doom's fault his computer hit the shitter
>people articulate how the game has nothing to do with his rig blowing itself up
>STOP GIVING VALID EXPLANATIONS DOOM 4 DEFENSE FORCE REEEEEE

r/doom it is then.

>>3693792
... you do know gameplay mods win those too right

>>3693821
Phml is a superfluous salty fuck. pay his shit no mind.

source: couple of coop complex doom runs on chillax days ago

>>3693357
If you think that you have that bad then look at one of my dooming folders! They're usually filled with archives, wads and demos I can't even remember what the hell is in there and what they are doing on my hard drive.

>>3692738
>Not Christian mythology.
funny enough though a lot of Christian imagery shows up in Quake though, even giant reliefs of christ himself

Not exactly Doom related but, Turok's level editor has just been released.

>>3693884
Did they add Linux support yet?

>>3693891
it does not currently support linux

it also does not currently support blackberry os, plan 9 or os/2

Fuck revenants
Why are they so scary.
Whenever I see one I want to run,even though it's just a few shotgun blasts.

>>3693908
>it also does not currently support blackberry os, plan 9 or os/2

That was mean,but the funny kind of mean

>>3693909

Was it announced if there was ever going to be another Vinesauce map competition next year, or whenever? I had some interest in that, but never got around to it.

>>3693915
I can't be the only one who finds these things horrifying.
No other monster(Besides the archvile,but that is really strong and is a worthy opponent) gives me this feeling

>>3693909
Don't click this image, anon, you might get AAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>3693924
It makes that really strange sound in game.

>>3693909

>>3693923
The only reason I find them spooky is the implication that they're possessed humans that you killed.
And the idea that all the zombies that I killed were converted into revenants scares me.

Just over a year ago, somebody here said they listened to New Retro Wave while playing "Back to Saturn X".

Out of interest I started listening to NRW and holy shit over that time I found the music genre I actually can say I listen to the most and you were right anon, it's fucking *great* for Doom.

To that guy, thanks.

PS: Whatever happened to the guys making that cyberpunk/neon looking mod with the Zsecs?

It used this song (which is also New Retro)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YjkvsD2wLq8

>>3693959
>PS: Whatever happened to the guys making that cyberpunk/neon looking mod with the Zsecs?
Cyberpunk shootdown? dead

>>3693961
I felt bad for that, I went on leave from here when it was coming out.

I actually have a fully sprited Plasma gun Zsec Specops for Ghastly Dragon but he never got back to me......it's been sitting on my HD for god knows how long but I don't release it for fear he'll think I'm being a jerk.

>>3693963
>giving a fuck about what an inactive loser think

>>3693963
Ghastly's pretty chill IMHO. He'd probably just appreciate it.

>>3693089
Exactly how I felt playing it the other night. The Crusher was so tedious, and Dead Simple dragged on and on with a confusing, samey layouts that made it hard to figure out where to go next

>>3693969
rude :3

>>3693963
Release it for all to enjoy Anon. It's not like it will stop him using it

>>3693990
I'll have to dig out an old drive to find it.

Where would be the best place to actually post it? Somewhere on the Doomworld or Zdoom forums I imagine? I'm not really familiar with them.

>>3693986
>Dead Simple dragged on and on with a confusing, samey layouts that made it hard to figure out where to go next
heh

>>3693915
About time someone updated this.

On this note, what do people use to animate things?

I got this on sale and feel like I fell for a meme

I don't like this at all, they missed the point on everything that made Doom good

Recommend me some .WADs with good map flow, interesting design, and well thought-out encounters.

>>3694001
I actually quite liked it.

The "Foundry" level is where the game really starts to go.

>>3694001
Going Down.

I can see how you feel. Even though I liked D44M, I think finishing moves or wave based encounters were a mistake.

>>3694001
>I don't like this at all
Well. That's a shame. I don't think I can convince you otherwise, but I personally loved it.

>>3694001
yeah, it took me a while to get into to it, but when you get over the comparison to the originals the later half of the game gets really fun.

>>3694001
The first two levels are crap. If you would have judged the game by its demo you wouldn't have bought it at all. How does it miss the point of Doom? Lack of infight-baiting? No crusher ceilings? Platforming with actual jumping that you can recover from without a pistol restart? Levels with rooms above rooms?

>>3694008
>Levels with rooms above rooms?

>>3693998
I set one frame with the spoiler image layer in front first, then another with it directly above. I use the 'tween frames' feature in Photoshop to make a smooth transition between the two.

>>3694003
>wave based encounters were a mistake.

That's the consoles' fault. They can't handle AI this complex when there's more than a dozen of them. The level designers had to make killboxes that prevent retarded pacifist speedrunners from baiting an army of demons behind them and tanking the performance. And because SnapMap sharing isn't platform-specific, all the limitations of the console are imposed on PC.

>>3693993
Zdoom's Resources subforum or the sprite thread in the Editing forum.

>>3694001
>good map flow, interesting design, and well thought-out encounters.

Quake's vanilla levels does those things better than anything else I've played 2bh

>>3694038
How did id achieve this when they originally envisioned Quake as some kind of RPG

>>3694012
>And because SnapMap sharing isn't platform-specific, all the limitations of the console are imposed on PC.

You really think they'd bother making a real map editor otherwise ?

>>3694043
When Romero's garbage rpg ideas were canned

>>3694024
Thanks bruh.
I'll get around to it sometime.

>>3694043
Development of the engine took so long that when id finally started working on maps, everybody was so tired that they just stuck with what they knew rather than going with John's crazy ideas.

>>3694054
John designed the "Doom clone" version of the game as well.

>>3694046
They probably somehow think that modding support doesn't sell games. I guess they've forgotten to ask their publisher about that idea.

>>3694046
>>3694058
Official word from one of the programmers during a Quakecon panel was that they shied away from "real" custom maps because they'd all be like, 2gb downloads minimum.

>>3694058
funny thing is that if they released SDK or just some map making utility, multiplayer would be more than just a ghost town

>>3694062
Are you sure, given how well Rage's modding SDK went?

>>3694063
who gives a fuck about rage?

>>3694065
I do. I liked it, even if it was full of flaws.

>>3694061
I guess that's megatextures for ya. Though that could be fixed by having the game generate the megatextures from imported custom levels after the dowload. When you're mostly using the assets that come with the game, map data shouldn't be all that huge.

I could be talking out of my ass. I only have a hazy idea of how megatextures work

>>3694061
holy FUDG

>>3694061
Well the base game is already 55+ GB, what's the big deal if each custom map has to be around 5 GB?

>>3694061
I just want to rebalance and recode the gameplay.

>>3694052
Side note: the zdoom forums is probably the best place on the internet for sprite based FPS assets. Tons of rips from obscure games as well as some extremely high quality original art.

>>3694074
it's pretty crazy how I can download about 4-7 hours of fun doom madness in 14 seconds with most megawads

we should be appreciative of that....

>>3694083
It also allows to hoard good mods very quickly.
Compared to that, finding Half-Life mods is harder. I haven't been able to refind Surprise! for years.

>danny odwyer will never release the quakecon 2014 footage

>we will never get to see the cute.little cleaning robot

>>3694061
I don't think why it would be showstopper to release a version of their map-development tools for those who wish to indulge in mapping. Megatextures seem like weird problem - are they contained in the map-files? Does the game not have its own folder of map-textures? Makes sense if all maps use different textures, but if not, re-using seems more sensible.

Of course, licenses and security might be trouble.

>>3694092
I am guessing a lot of problem is baked data, on top of lightmaps, cubemaps and vertex data you add splatmaps and decals that decide where goes what

>>3694092

You'd also have to invest thousands of dollars in a computer farm in order to compile your maps

>>3694093
Oh yeah. I haven't done that level of work, so kinda didn't think about that.

>>3693445
Sphercutor

>>3693531
Strife?

I've been wanting to create a TES-like RPG with Doom for a while now but it's way too much work and I'm lazy as fuck

Can someone recommend me a map with custom textures and a cyberpunk theme, like BTSX E1?

>>3694057
>doom clone version of quake

>>3693556
>>3693560
>>3693595
>>3693606
>>3693613
A SECRET IS REVEALED!

>>3693884
Fucking awesome. Where can I get it?

>>3693909
They're only scary when you don't have enough room to maneuver and you're not a fucker using crouch in ZD

To me the scariest demons are Pain Elementals, even if you manage to kill them quickly that's already a lot more Lost Souls then I'd like to ever deal with. Also Spectres in Vanilla Doom were really hard to see, always scared the shit out of me and then fucked me up.

>>3694127
Download the latest Steam update. There will be an "editor.exe" in the root directory, and a big PDF file with documentation.

I don't think it's in the GOG version yet.

>>3694116
>cyberpunk
>btsx e1
I'm confused here, it's just techbases you want then? Try Mutiny.

>>>/wsg/1459055
dshockv2 gameplay test with sounds.

Only the static overlays of the hud are ported to the new codebase as of now, but they work in widescreen despite being displayed at 320x200. They'll need to be tweaked some though.

>>3692932
Hey, I'm here. I can't stream at all because my upload rate is complete shit... I can record and upload to a Youtube channel if you don't mind non-live gameplay.

>>3694138
I meant you know, the dark grayscale accentuated with bright neon color theme. A techbase can have many different styles.

You guys still play Doom online?

I'm having a little bit of a 3D floors problem.

Textures on the sides wont show up no matter what.

I have set the middle texture on the dummy sector but nothing seems to work.

>>3694158
only the texture on the 3d floor special line matters. It gets applied to all the sides of the 3d floor.

Self-referencing sectors are such pain to work with sometimes.
Broke when I fixed the railings a bit, so I had to redo most of the bridge.

>>3694162

Well it is set... I've trid setting it everywhere else because nothing seemed to work

>>3694172
Have you tried setting the back side?

>>3694175

Yep, but "backside" unchecks itself automatically

>>3694176
Does the ceiling and floor render in the level?

>>3694181

Yep, no problem, I've got a top, I've got a bottom, aint got shit in between.

It's fucking weird.

>>3694184
What happens if you select the the actual 3d floor's side in GZDB and set the texture from there ?

>>3694186

It acts as if it's there. Crazy, right ?

>>3694187
Are you using some kind of map format that doesn't support Flats as wall textures?

>>3694190

Nope, using UDMF, there's flats all over my walls ! heh

>>3694191

Tried making one in the second level of my wad... Works just fine.

What the fuck is happening ?

>>3694197
Yo, is that PAYNE?

>>3694203

Nah, it's the rifle biker from the old Zombies TC, I'm remaking it.

>>3694207
>Zombies TC
Pretty cool my dude, godspeed.

Is it possible to achieve regular door opening?

>>3694218
Even vanilla Hexen can do that, so yes.

>>3694218
Make "keyframes" of a door opening, where each keyframe is an array of parts of the door rising up from the floor at instant speed. Door opens, door opens more, previous frame disappears, next frame appears.

>>3694228
Or a polyobject..

that nudoom documentary has released an extended, hour-plus long version of the interview that all the hugo bits were from

https://youtu.be/LVLecokaRv4

>>3694229
I'm not a Doom editing expert. I just have some basic knowledge of the limitations of the original Doom engine. No idea how much those limitations have changed. I know the original engine can't have angled slopes, rooms above rooms or any horizontally moving sectors. Something that the Build Engine does have. Well, the rooms above rooms can't be rendered simultaneously but the illusion of them is possible.

Doom64 has some amazing level design tricks to get around limitations made by masking platform movement by making them silent and instant.

>>3694197

I figured I did something wrong on the first level and came back.

Still wont work.

Works perfectly on the second level.

What the fuck ?

>>3692636
What are you talking about, Nuclear Winter is so bad it's good again.
You need to fully embrace it's shittyness to enjoy it.

HOW CAN THIS GUY BE SO CUTE AND AWESOME!

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LVLecokaRv4

Extended interview with Hugo Martin

>>3694246
Njah. I don't need to appreciate objectively bad level design. I could challenge you to do the same regarding Quake 2.

>>3693556
What the christ

>Finaly managed to get 100 kills on the map after 10 days
Fuck pinky demons,they were hidden behing a completely sunsuspicious door

Does Realm667 not have a forum anymore?

Sorry if this is old news but I just tried to check and can't see one.

Best track coming trough!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=re0A23CSvpw

>>3694158

Got it to work, not even sure how. I just tried making another one elsewhere, and it worked, then I tried making the same one back where I started, and it didnt work. Solved the problem by making a copy of the first one and modifying it.

Magic I guess ?

>>3694303
What would be widely considered as the worst Doom track?

>>3694328
Some of the full glitch songs with no metal or proper riffs are pretty bad in Doom4 but I think "They're going to get you" from Doom1 and "The Healer Stalks" from Doom2 are my least favorite tracks. The former is off-key in a way that doesn't actually suit the hellish theme that well, and the latter is goddamn samba. As bad as I think Doom2 is, it shouldn't have up beat latino dance music like it's trying to be D3D Life's A Beach.

>>3694328
Anything that doesn't scream "high octane action"
I consider the horror tracks to be shit
"Suspense"
"Demons on the prey" and their kind

>>3694337
The Healer Stalks is a perfectly fine track
It's not horrorshit,not metal.
It just falls on it's ass trying to sit on both chairs if you think about it.

>>3694259
>pinky demons
>E1M1
???
What's all this then

>>3694370
>E1M1
>Entryway

>>3694370
It's a different map but it kept the name for some reason.

Why do people always put Revenants on top of high platforms?

>>3694381
They can shoot at you easier that way (ie. they are cunts)

>>3694371
oh yeah, E1M1 is Hanger isn't it
Entryway is Map01, right?

I've come to the conclussion that Doom literally hasn't aged.

Quake has aged.

Hexen has aged.

Half-Life has aged.

Doom still feels as fresh as it did when it came out. Not even nostalgia speaking rn, I played the game for the first time in this decade.

>>3694446
all games age, question is if it ages like a fine wine or like milk.
cant speak of hexen as I am not a fan, but other 3 games you mentioned aged like wine, while Deus Ex for example aged like milk

>>3694446
Honestly,the community kept it updated to a ridicoulus degree in my opinion.
What other old fanbases can speak of having actual modernized source ports that still live and are updated?
X-Com and other id games come to mind but not much else

>>3694451
Shut up u fag I like Deus-Ex, it looks like shit but still plays as originally intended.

>>3694453
Even on DOSbox Doom is still fun desu. The design of the game and the aesthethics would still be acceptable today, even if it wasn't as an AAA game.

>>3694470
I do like deus ex as well anon, but you cant say that it hasnt aged poorly in terms of technology, mechanics and design decisions.

>>3694470
2.5D didn't really evolve past that point.
So there is fucking nothing to compare doom today.
It isn't shit in a relative way to anything.
While 3D is constantly evolving,surpassing and making itself obsolete.

>>3694451
>Deus Ex for example aged like milk
>That "A BOMB" cutscene
At least it still plays well

>>3694481
music and atmosphere are the only things that make me reinstall really

>>3694487
I only have it installed to play the Malkavian mod, since I've beat it so many times it's no longer fun

>>3694328
I always hated Facing the Spider.
It's not only a bad idea to do more hardcore thrash in MIDI, but the track itself is just really boring.

D44M's final boss theme as least has a nice groove to it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BC5WjyaxdXA

>>3694475
I think it plays fine, it's not a shooter, it's an RPG.

>>3694476
Truth, 3D visuals that aren't cell shaded have a tendency to age like milk, tho I think there's something cute to Quake aesthethics, if you only make them higher resolution.

>>3692943
You mean Total Chaos?
It's close to completion, had a beta release recently.

Friendly reminder that Hugo Martin saved us all

>>3694470
>Shut up u fag
WOW
RUDE

>>3694527
>e3 showed us a kinda cool looking modern look on if hell invaded & humans had their back to the wall fighting demons on the streets & closed the intro with a soldier with a double barreled shotgun overlooking a crater

>then they give us this game with a shit plot, retarded way to play it & cancerous mp

he didn't save us from shit

How do you make Doom graphics if you can't draw at all? I wanted to make some new weapons but I guess I can't...

I'm not even gonna bother quoting you

here's your reply, you pick it the fuck back up yourself

>>3694557
Can't you just cut out real weapons or make some frankenstein tier weapon with photoshop?

>>3694557
Make 3D sculpts and screenshot them

>>3694550
cinematic ''''''experiences'''''' aren't gameplay anon

I also never saw a single demon throughout the demo save for a sole teleporting imp, let alone people actually struggling against several demons

I would suggest you stop being a contrarian, you'll wake up arguing against things you genuinely like one day

>>3694527
He just copied Painkiller and called it a day

>>3694557
Anon like 90% of Doom's arsenal are photoshopped pictures of real world things.

You could also open up Gmod and pose some weapon models that way

>>3694557

I dig up photographs and do shitty MSPaint scribbles over them, then filter the FUCK out of them in Photoshop.

>>3694564
>exploration
>environments
>character progression
>powerup placement in arena battles
>>>lore that enriches story of past iterations
>painkiller
ok

>>3694527
They should have had this team work on RAGE. It would have probably ended up more interesting.

>>3694550
Doom 4 was at least a good continuation of classic Doom's style, which is desperately needed in the modern industry.
I wouldn't mind a mod where you play coop as a bunch of ordinary jackoffs trying to survive the invasion.

2012's environments at least looked nice and open.
I also like how it looks contemporary. I'd imagine the UAC doesn't care much about earth.

>>3694581
Some of the environments even remind me of Doom 2 levels.
This one looks like Monster Condo

>>3694570
>exploration
>environments
>character progression

Try actually playing Painkiller sometime, it has those

>>3694587
>all of those are exclusive to painkiller
wew lad

>>3694581
>good continuation of classic Doom's style

other than in the mods, i didn't think you need to jump like a fool to survive.

>>3694604

A continuation of the Z axis is probably the stupidest reason to discount something, though.

Name a wad. I'll play anything you name other than jokewads unless they're really, really good.

>>3694626
Doom: Rampage Edition

>>3694626
https://www.doomworld.com/vb/wads-mods/71954-murderworld/

>>3694632
>https://www.doomworld.com/vb/wads-mods/71954-murderworld/
Fucking amazing.

>>3694523
OH awesome thank you!

http://www.simonoc.com/pages/design/sp/ad.htm

Arcane Dimensions Devkit, if anyone is interested

>>3694630
>>3694632
Nice bad jokewads. Whatever, I'll just find good wads on my own.

>>3694626
equinox

>>3694645
>murderworld
>jokewad

>>3694659
The only reply saying the wad is good is by ironic memelord AdamAK

>>3694662
i played through it and found it very enjoyable, regardless of your feeling about adam gayk

>>3694664
I'm sure you did.

>>3694667
???

>>3694669
>>3694667

>>3694671
Yep. Definitely not a jokewad. Look at all that polish and work put into it.

>>3693267
It looks like you're birthing the monster from Akira.

>>3694682
Tetsuo is not a monster, he's just misunderstood.

>>3694626
>>3694645
If you dismiss Doom: Rampage Edition as jokewad then play The Sky May Be in Chocolate Doom.

>>3694678
>every map ever made has to be a totally serious masterwork
Back to Saturn X was a mistake.

>>3694705
but he said no jokewads

>>3693178
Choppy stream is back, slowly crawling through Ultimate Doom with The Blessed Engine this time.
http://www.hitbox.tv/deepsee

>>3694705
It's not about quality, it's about the effort. Ironic jokewads are no different from shitting on a canvas and calling it art, it's effortless and due to the fact that it can't be criticized (it's bad on purpose!) it leads to no growth or knowledge gained by the creator, while at the same time still being fellated by his peers.

I've played plenty of "my first wads" that were not particularly good but I still hold them in a much higher regard than any jokewad, at least the creator was trying, not something a lot of people do these days what with this disgusting spread of ironic culture.

>>3694626
D T S T
I I P R
M M A A
E E C V
N E E
S L
I L
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N R

>>3693080
Where'd he say that?

What a jerk.

>>3694735
Dimension Timeeller Space Trav?

Soon.

>>3694446
>Half-Life has aged.

As somebody who played it for the first time last week, you're full of shit.

>>3694773
Yeah, it was never good.

>>3694775
Yeah, the expansion packs were never good.

>>3694775
rude

Ewww, who let /v/ in here? The place smells of diarrhea now. Ugh. Disgusting.

>>3694773
It's very drowned out, base game enemy variety gets stale basically half way trough. Puzzles are very simplistic and the storytelling method was copied by other games afterwards.

Don't take me wrong, I love half-life, but sometimes I rather play Black Mesa.

>>3694791
>the storytelling method was copied by other games afterwards.
That doesn't seem like it should dock points off the original game, though.

>>3694775
>>3694778
>>3694791
Story aside, Opossising Force is a better game desu. If you played that one first you'd definitely think it's the better game.

>>3694741
Dimension time space traveler

Completely screwed it up

>>3694792
I mean, it doesn't, It still gets the credits in my conscious mind, but if you played other games that did it better before it, you'll have a hard time appreciating it.

Kinda like HL2's technological achivements, only legitimately impressive back when they were brand new.

>>3694721
>not playing with mouselook
>playing some shittier meme .deh
kys urself my mane

>>3694795
HL2 relies too much on technology showcasing stupid puzzles and gravity guns and all humanoid enemies

HL1 is still Quake at heart and there's nothing stopping you from waiting four seconds for that scientist to unlock the door, then immediately gibbing him and Gauss jumping through the level at Mach 5

>>3694797
>never heard of the Blessed Engine
>kys
fat