/vr/ - Retro Games

>>3686389
keyboard

>>3686389
I am tempted to say the DualShock 4, if only because it works right out the gate, and the PS1, 2, and PSP are all systems that can be emulated today with relative ease.

Three systems the controller matches automatically, and then has enough buttons for whatever else you might want to play.

Of course, there's plenty of other fine choices as well. This is just the best one I can come up with.

>>3686389
I feel like WiiU Pro Controller is perfect for everything except the gamecube games that requires analog triggers

>>3686406
what's nice about Dolphin is that it has separate input binds for fully clicking a trigger, and then another for just pushing it halfway

what I do on a pad that has two pairs of triggers is assign each one to a row, so for example I would press L1 in Mario Sunshine to spray while running and 2 to stop and aim the nozzle

it works pretty well, but you have to get a little weird with Z - I resorted to mapping it to clicking in the analog stick

>>3686412
>Z on RS/R3
Not a completely bad idea
Would take relearning a little

But seriously, there's so few games that actually uses analog trigger. like what, Sunshine and F-Zero GX?

My reasons for liking WiiU pro controller
D-Pad + Face button are great, perfect for NES/NES
Symmetrical, which is good for Playstation shit

The symmetry stinks in general since asymmetrical is better, but it's really not that big of a deal

The 3rd party USB i use makes it work as dinput and xinput, so everything fucking works

nice form

>>3686406
Playing the majority of GameCube games without a GameCube controller doesn't feel right anyways. I use the Wii U GameCube adapter.

>>3686419
I would give the Wii U Pro controller a shot if I had the proper adapter for it to work on my PC, but alas.

>>3686389
Not the one in the OP pic. I own the same one and it fucking sucks. analog stick pops out of place and the buttons stick all the time. Don't buy this one if you're going to play N64.

Nothing really beats a ps4 controller, they're a bit expensive though

It depends. For ease of use and comfort, probably the PS4 controller. It just werks. For best feel, nothing beats an original controller with a USB adapter. Either way, lag is a real thing, though.

>>3686510
>Either way, lag is a real thing, though.

liar, controllers don't introduce any input lag that wouldn't be negligible, adapters or not

>>3686389
PS4 controller or the OG PS1 DualShock with a converter (PS2's pressure sensitive buttons combined with the fact that the converter only checks digital input hurts it -- you have to push a bit hard on the buttons, and diagonals tend to flicker).

the PS3 controller is similar to the PS2 one, but nicer overall (I hate L2/R2 on it though)

>>3686389

An original controller with a USB adapter.

>>3686389
Controllers are cheap.
Controller-to-usb-converters are cheap.

Just buy 1 controller for every system.
And one converter for eahc controller. They are like 2 dollars each on ebay from chinks

>>3686538
No, but emulating does.

>>3686601
smart post.

>>3686604

I disagree, maybe you use inaccurate emulators.

>>3686601
>snes controller on amazon
>3 new from $195.94 50 used from $12.89 14 collectible from $14.49
>cheap

Oh yeah, very cheap, if you are willing to buy a weared out used controller, you don't know how much use it has, this things WEAR OUT with the years, you might get lucky and get one barely used

Anyone here reccomend a fightstick for mame? Mainly going to be used for action games and beat 'em ups so it doesn't have to be amazing tier for tournament fighters.

Under $100 usd would be a plus too, ty.

>>3686567
Most of our N64 controllers have worn to hell after all those thousands of hours of gameplay, and NOS controllers cost triple cash compared to brand new newly made usb gamepads.

I like my DS3.

>>3686423
I still want a Wii-U, but that controller I felt would be best for my emulation machine. Symmetrical analog sticks, 360 controller ergonomics, and Nintendo quality D-pad ... the only thing is that it lacks analog triggers for racing games.

The "second player" controller.

>>3687065
These were $under $60 at one point on Amazon. Under $30 for the one that had ugly Cena and Helmsley on it. The artwork can be replaced, so aesthetics aren't any problem. However, the stick and buttons are decent imitations of Sanwa parts.

>>3686389
I would say whatever suits your hands best. I personally find the Sega Saturn controller to be the best for my play, so I've gotten adapters for it to all systems. There are even official USB ones too. They are great for me in general use.

However, for some emulated games, like those that require analog sticks or two joysticks, I'd try an adapter for a more specialized controller (like a N64 to USB adapter for N64, or Wii-U Pro for the dual analog sticks for Smash T.V.).

>>3686389
>What is the best controller to use for an emulator?
Stupid zipperhead

>>3687151
>ragging on the F310

Fuck you that controller rules.

>>3686389
Buffalo USB SNES controller for 2D games and a wired Xbox 360 controller for 3D games.

Wii Classic Pro controller.

>>3687172
D-pad is shit. It's the cheap kind you can press completely inwards.

>>3687351
But they advertise it as being better than other d-pads.

>>3687356
Well it's not, I have one. The lack of a center pivot point actually makes it worse. You have to awkwardly slide your thumb all around the pad instead of having it rest in the center naturally. And no it's not anything like a Sega sliding d-pad.

>>3687157
This is a wii stick? Do you know if these are still sold in gamestop stores? No problem buying online, just that I have the cash in person. Also any chance of it being usb if there's a 360 or ps3 version?

>>3687145
I have an alpha for the same purpose, only problem is that its the base model and can't run mednafen saturn. I use my school laptop or desktop for that.

>>3686804
Fair concern, however, you can buy them for like 1 dollar each at thrift stores sometimes.

Also, I mean I didn't expect him to literally buy a controller for every single system. A ps2 controller will cover nearly all of them.

But a nes controller would be a good investment for nes games as its much better than using a modern controller.

>>3687356
>>3687367
so the d-pad is basically four face buttons? i have one such pad, it was like 3$.

>>3687170
what is this? a knockoff saturn pad for the playstation? never seen this before

>>3687170
>dual analog sticks for Smash T.V
you are a genius i never thought of trying this

>>3686389
>What is the best controller to use for an emulator?

Original Saturn USB pad is perfect for everything without an analog stick. However they are difficult to come by and very expensive, so your best bet is in getting a knockoff, and then exchanging the shell with a real Saturn pads.

X360 pad is great for everything WITH an analog stick. Has enough buttons for every other controller, has rumble, iirc you can even get a microphone for it for the odd few games that support that peripheral (but I'm not aware if any emulators support that feature - Seaman would be a blast to play like that).

>>3687652
Sega released a bunch of peripherals in the early 00s, which included Saturn pads with USB, Saturn pads for the PS2, and the HSS-0136 sticks for the PS2 (and maybe even for PC, I think). It's not a knockoff, it's a real product.

I recommend this controller, I played through dark souls with it on my PS3 actually. It has several driver modes built into the controller itself which is a lifesaver. It's cheap af and much, much better than >>3687151
trust me, I have both.
here's a link, maybe you can find it cheaper elsewhere, I don't know
https://www.amazon.com/Vibration-Feedback-Gamepad-Controller-Joystick-architecture/dp/B00OAYHIRA/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_product_top?ie=UTF8

Adaptoid USB + a real N64 controller. Hard to find, worth about $100. Runs the rumble pack.

>>3687172
The result of pimping out a controller for the first time. It suffered many problems like sticky buttons n' shit (which I later fixed), but I said "fuck it," and turn it to the equivalent of a cheeto dust-covered Mad Catz controller. Hence the name: "Player 2." Alternate names are Joy Machine and Stercore Opus.

>>3687719
Of course the F310 is pretty crappy, but it doesn't need several drivers to use it. I also used to have a Nyko PS3 controller (as a backup controller), but it feels very cheap & lightweight.

>>3686389
Xbox 360/One

>>3687121

>triple cash for N64 controllers

ebay has refurb and new N64 controllers for under $25. So IDK where this meme came from.

>no 8bitdo shilling
laowai, i'm dissapointed.

>>3687669
That's how the game was originally designed bro, have fun!

>>3687952
Why would you want an NES/Famicom style controller where the face buttons are not in line with each other horizontally? Whats the point?

>>3686389
dual shock 3

>>3687974
>Whats the point?
Becouse it's better that way. Having more than 2 face buttons already ruins the OG aesthetics, so who cares.

>>3687992
>not mapping unused buttons to useful features like save/load states and fastforward toggle for rpg's

>>3686391
>>3686389
And mouse.
PC mustard rice represent!

>>3687669
That sounds like cheating.

>>3687996
but that's what i do. why did you assume i'm against extra buttons?

>>3688017
it's not /vr/ but emulating wii games can be pretty fun with a mouse and keyboard

like clicking and dragging shit in Galaxy, it works very well

>>3686389
2d = saturn pad
>>3686538
>controllers don't introduce any input lag that wouldn't be negligible
Wireless ones do.
>>3686793
Emulator accuracy has nothing to do with input lag. The lag comes from many factors outside the emulator.
3d = dualshock 4 (probably)

>>3687876
>Xbone controller
Holy shit how are you the only one saying this. I don't even own the console but that controller is comfortable as fuck.

>>3687952
>Not the Pro Version

>>3688426
the sticks are said to be dogshit(such small sticks are always shit though), the buttons and d-pad are smaller than on non-pro version and are also said to be dogshit in comparison to non-pro, not to mention that vr consoles that use analog are poorly emulated . so why would anyone get this over say dualshock 4 which is almost as expensive?

>>3686389

>4th gen and earlier
Saturn gamepad with an adapter.
>N64/GC
GC controller with adapter.
>PSX/PS2
Dualshock with adapter.
>Xbox and anything PC
Wired 360 controller.
Adapters for most things are mass-produced and only cost a few dollars. There's no reason to use anything other than the real controller, imo. Don't fuck around with the $20 Nyko or Logitech controllers. They're garbage.

>>3687452
Yeah, the one pictured is for the Wii, but there were ones for the 360 and PS3 as well if you want a simple direct to USB connection. They were sold in Gamestop at one time, but by now they are likely gone.


>>3687489
The form factor makes it great. I read the newer ones make more noise but does not have a graphics bottleneck for modern stuff. I got the Alpha for cheap because there's a newer one out and it is primarily for emulation in my home, works out great. I have not tried Saturn emulation on it, but MAME, DOSbox, and ScummVM works just great for me, I should try Dolphin and research Playstation (PPSSPP, PCSX2, ePSXe, etc.) for enhancements like perspective corrections or translation patches in the future.


>>3687970
Once I was in an arcade with a really early revision of Smash T.V. which had a twisty joystick like that of Time Soldiers and Ikari Warriors and two buttons, one to fire the standard shot (to conserve ammo for the 2nd button) the other for the latest special weapon. I have not checked if that early revision ever got dumped to MAME.


Sometimes, when you emulate, maybe an adapter is best. So you can hook up Super Nintendo controllers when you are emulating S.N.E.S. games.

>>3688551
>Yeah, the one pictured is for the Wii, but there were ones for the 360 and PS3 as well if you want a simple direct to USB connection. They were sold in Gamestop at one time, but by now they are likely gone.
Thanks for the info. It's Madcatz brand right? At least that's what google is telling me.

>>3688496
BR? Same here. Top kek

I always thought the Madcatz STIV fight pad would be great for genesis/saturn emulation. Has anyone tried using them?

>>3687157 artwork was super easy to replace, currently waiting on some cash to get new buttons.

>>3688947
I always figured these fighter gamepads would be perfect for non-analog games in general, really

>>3688784
Yes, it is Madcatz, Google is correct. Do note that the buttons and stick are imitations of Sanwa (that's why I intend on replacing them with actual Sanwa ones in the pic), but they are pretty close and most wouldn't notice. The stick is also replaceable but I cannot afford one now, and I am still looking up if it would support a Seimitsu LS-32-01 stick (as I prefer that brand over Sanwa for Japanese styled sticks) when I unlazy myself.


>>3688947
I have. I believe one should get the controllers that would be best for each individual. If you feel these would be best for you then get them.

I am always looking for a Saturn pad alternative because authentic SLS/Sega Saturn pads are getting difficult for me to get and prices have gotten pretty high (the knockoff imitation Retrolink ones I just don't like, and I can feel the difference in play). So much that I spent the last hour or so cleaning this pink USB one I got recently, shipped from one of the shadiest Japanese sellers, in a pussy color, filthy as hell, and it still cost $18USD shipped, but that's the price I have to pay because I have found the Sega Saturn pads are the best for my hands. The only thing the Ascii and Madcatz ones has over the Saturn pad are equal sized XYZ buttons to ABC, but they all fall short to me in some way.

The Madcatz SF4 controllers has a large and soft D-pad, which may be better suited for people with large hands. It feels loose to me and given that I use charge characters (like Guile/Nash/Dictator) my thumb would start sliding from the down-away position. However there are some great players which prefer these controllers like a notable Zangief and Guile players. Note the SFxT controller from Madcatz is smaller.


>>3689032
I spent the extra because I like the Shinkiro art. I would definitely replace the art had I spent less and got the one with naked men as its artwork. However I am more curious to that controller in the back which looks like a NES advantage

>>3686403
Xbox 1 controller. Then you don't have to mess around with guaranteeing it works in emulators and mostly everything else (steam or similar)

Not OP. Just wondering how people are using wired controllers for Wii emulation. Someone said adapt the controller you want to use to GC, then use the GC ports. That seems to make sense, but someone else must have more input for me.

>>3690336
I should clarify. I have people, including myself, that use the Wii as an emulator box from time to time. How can I use a wired controller with my wii.

Something wired is preferred over bluetooth. I use the Hori Fighting Commander 4 which works on just about everything. The D-Pad is a mix of a saturn pad and a sony pad. The buttons are big, flat and sort of clicky. For everything else I use a 360 controller. I'm thinking about getting an XBONE controller. Also I use a Hori RAP4 for arcade, and fighting games.

>>3690334
>playing /vr/ with the out-of-the-way Xbox d-pad

>>3686389
DualShock 4 no contest

>>3687136
me too

>>3686434
Huh, I also have that same one, but none of those problems.

The D-pad was kinda flakey on mine, but It seems to have fixed itself.

>>3687065
I found a really decent PS2 arcade stick for $10 at a local game shop the other day, and I happen to already have an adapter for that. I paid $3 in total for the adapter on ebay, and it's been working solidly for a few years.

Not saying it has to be a PS2 stick, but I bet you could get a decent console fightstick+adapter for pretty cheap.

>>3692827
You misspelled Xbox 1 controller.

Do people actually buy DS4 without owning a ps4? Fucking idiots. Controller is junk in all regards compared to X1. Driver support non existant, dpad gummy, joysticks suck, all top buttons blow, etc. Stuff X1 doesn't have wrong.

The Logitech F130 is pretty good for $20.

Do any of those GC adaptors work on Linux/BSD?

>>3694647
Did they fix the d-pad on X1? 360 was the worst ever.

I want to get one of those blue PS2 to USB adapter like pic in >>3688496 but i hear so much shit about it being hit and miss about drivers and compatiility with the pressure sensitive buttons of PS2 controllers, so... since there are various ones at varying prices from many different brands, could anyone suggest a specific one that is less likely to have issues?
With all the info i got i'm actually confused and have no idea which i should buy.

>>3694647
The DS4 has an incredibly receptive, firm d-pad. What the fuck are you on? The Xbone d-pad is still utter wank, and it's in the wrong place.

>>3686389
Pretty happy with DS1 and DS3.

I have one of those $3 Chinese made USB SNES controllers rather than a Buffalo one. It's actually pretty good. The d-pad isn't amazing or anything but it works alright.

>>3686395

I owned this.

>>3694713
doctor rey!!!!

PS3 or Xbox One controller