/vr/ - Retro Games

=== NEWS ===

[Til 3-15] Dropbox will be dropping support of public folders in mid-March; now is a good time to mirror any Doom-relevant files available through this

[12-20] QUMP formalized; get mapping!
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Zlfb2U2VCeS70uS6Klc2ZEOC9KtnYyCyBXEmeetjh0c/edit

[12-19] DUMP 3 weapons finally finished!
http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=52276&start=1335#p963461

[12-19] Arcane Dimensions 1.5 Patch released
https://twitter.com/SimsOCallaghan/status/810575969408925696

[12-18] PortaDoom Alpha 2 released; a HUGE portable WAD collection in 90's disk-zine format
https://mega.nz/#!r4JCEZbY!6QCM6RjLuvLp8Pxac6wJICLRidiblhWxrOsFFSjajSw

[12-16] A keyboard with displays on each key can run Doom
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q7b9glYuAXw&feature=youtu.be

[12-16] DOOM-Crusher released; this tool can recursively optimize and reduce file sizes of your WAD and PK3 files
https://github.com/Kroc/DOOM-Crusher

[12-12] DOOM Resurrected, a documentary series about Nu-Doom by Noclip, is being released in parts
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL-THgg8QnvU4TMnDoFcI-vtJKwP2oLgyH

[12-12] Brutal Doom 64 2.0 released
http://www.moddb.com/mods/brutal-doom-64/downloads

[12-10] The 13th Cacowards were announced in celebration of Doom's 23rd birthday!
https://www.doomworld.com/23years/

[12-10] New Mapset
https://www.doomworld.com/vb/wads-mods/91952-chainworm-kommando-v1-0-released/

[12-10] Colourfull hell got updated to 0.88
http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=47980

[12-7] DoomRL source code released!
https://github.com/ChaosForge/doomrl

[12-6] Run For It, a mod where all decorations/projectiles/items grow pairs of legs and run around, was released
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LE96VqwW2zs

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PROTIP: If you would like to submit any news or your personal map releases here, please reply/backlink to this post.

Comfy Doom mod when?

>>3688068
Jeez, this only recently happened and /vr/'s already made a meme out of it.

Not that I'm complaining, it's the Internet after all.

>>3688083
"This" being the assassination of the Russian ambassador, for the record.

>>3688083
I don't get it.

GhastlyDragon.

Do you post here?

>>3688069
nah man, Quake logo design is god tier, it looks clean and simple while also looking cool enough to be a metal band logo Q2 logo is more obvious, and Q3 looked edgy to me

>>3688068
my pic is in the background, neato!

>>3688082
https://www.doomworld.com/vb/wads-mods/73172-comfy-doom-v2/

>>3688068
OP pic is a win this time.
Bravo.

>>3688097
Hey neat--
>Those spoilers
This is not very comfy, anon.

>>3688147
Don't worry, I found out the hard way.

>>3687969

Yes? I mean, it's a ZDoom mod.

>>3688159
It can run in ZDoom fine, but it requires GZDoom for some of the more advanced particle stuff.

>>3688209
I'll never get this shit. Same with the Bee Movie and Nutshack stuff. Makes me feel old.

>>3688210

Congrats, you've hit that point.

I hit it about three years ago, these kids nowadays are fucking retarded

>>3688068
>the pictured in the background
Kecked

>>3688212
I hit that point the moment I watched someone play Life is Strange. But that other stuff helped too.

>>3688210
Why must everything have inherent meaning?
This is funny because it has nothing behind it.
It doesn't reference anything,it doesn't tell us anything deep.
It's just we are number one BUT...

>>3688218

He's doesn't get it because he fails to see humor in it. It's a hip new meme among the kiddos right now and when you hit a certain point in life you start seeing new trends as fucking stupid and confusing.

It's not funny, by the way.

>>3688225
Oh good, kids and teens like irony now. Fantastic.

>>3688209
>>3688210
>>3688212
>>3688213
>>3688215
>>3688218
>>3688225
What most kids now adays like about We are number one is the cathcy melody, and the nonsensical lyrics. Also slightly fueled by what is for them nostalgia.

Believe me, this shit will get more confusing when you decide to go back to school and everyone in your class is nearly half your age. You get bombarded with memes you didn't even knew existed. Also, the shit you enjoy seems old and outdated to them.

But alas, this discussion has nothing to do with Doom, so to get back on topic:
Who else did an attempt to get through the /idgames archive in alphabatical order?
I'just started and am allready at the letter B, from the Doom 1 loose level sets.
I already regret trying this.

>>3688239
Why the hell did you decide to do that? You'll take years, and you'll have to go through so much trash.

>>3688241
It seemed like a neat challenge. But I'm now starting to see what I got myself into.

Hey, maybe I'll get a Guiness Book of Records notation of person who played every existing Doom mod!

>>3688239
We are number one.wad when?

>>3688239
Finally someone who can actually use the idgames torrent!

>>3688248
Some guy did a MIDI instrumental at least. I tried loading it into GZDoom to replace D_RUNNIN but it was quiet as fuck.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DDGSsQeSF98
https://www.dropbox.com/s/3qux5du0vqy7dcd/We%20are%20number%20one%20MIDI.mid?dl=0

>>3688068
What's that picture?

>>3688359
The man who prompted world war 3.

>>3688361
?

>>3688368
The answer to your question is on the front page of virtually every news website right now, not to mention its in one of the first replies to this thread anon. Step it up.

>>3688369
I googled it. What the fuck?

>>3687924

I'm requesting access to the document

Now that my study is over, I can work on fun things, like Doom!

I have an idea for a casino level, so I've been working on this mechanic.
I am open to suggestions.

>>3688484
I am retarded and forgot the webm.

>>3688473
Looks like I had the sharing set wrong, you should be able to edit now.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Zlfb2U2VCeS70uS6Klc2ZEOC9KtnYyCyBXEmeetjh0c/edit?usp=sharing

>>3688486
That's a neat little mechanic, though I can't imagine how slot machines can make for a fun level more then half the time cause of the luck element.

>>3688490
I am thinking a series of rooms where each you might roll for a weapon, then a random (easy) encounter or multiple, then roll for a break and then a tougher room, onwards and upwards.

It'd be cool cause it'd change each time you played it. Maybe. I think that'd be cool.

But yes, it needs work.

>>3688493
I agree to just give it some time. You'll probably be able to make something really cool out of it.

>>3688068
>>3688209

>>3688498
>"NOW LOOK AT THIS GUN, THAT I JUST FOUND!"

>>3688486
Add weapons and health into the mix so you can get random """loot""" if you are lucky

anyone on a mac with sierra have problems with prboom+? I can't get audio to work

>>3688143
I don't get that reference. Spoon me

>>3688516
Read the news.

>>3688520
Oh, thanks. I was a bit confused because I only saw the Berlin attack

What happened with the guy making DOOM for the Occulus Rift?

I don't see why he got mocked or told it's stupid, it sounds awesome.

Doom is actually a terrible game in 2016.

>>3688573
Your mom is actually a terrible whore in 2016 (wont change in 2017 either)

>QUMP is a thing
Oh shit motherfucker i can't map

>>3688486
>The moment I saw that spooky skeleton in the last slot

>>3688579
Do you have something better to do than learn? I was making my first map but now I'll start to learn how to play the guitar so I guess I can't finish it.

Go for it, anon.

>>3688601
I should have learned to play the guitar.

I should have learned to play them DUMPs

>>3688576
hey now anon
maybe his mom's whoring skills will improve

>>3688068
someone pls explain

>>3688602
It's not late. Just remember, you'll learn for fun and appreciate the music in a new way, not to become the next Joe Dart

>>3688579
QUMP is just for that, learn shit and share knowlege, its my first try at mapping for quake too anon so just go for it

>>3688606
L-lewd

Where can I find a good rock/metal-sounding midi library to put on GZDoom?

I'm trying to get something together with some of my work buddies.

Basically, trying to get them all set up with Zandronum and do some bro-op.

Considering I'm planning on having 5 players, are there any specific wads that are good for co-op of this many people. I figure that standard maps might be too easy with that many.

Is it possible to beat Doom on nightmare theoretically (if that makes sense)? How come it hasn't been beaten yet? I've finished 1st episode, but not much more.

>>3688667

It's been beaten on nightmare multiple times, check out speedruns on youtube or something. It was designed to be impossible, but people got good.

>>3688484
>>3688486

add a shotgun reel and have the room fill up with shotguns and shells

>>3688670
>not knowing the meme

>>3688239
I honestly think it's something to do with the prospect of the quartet.

>>3688674
What meme?

I see these flags and murals everywhere in fan-made Doom levels. They appear at least in Eternal Doom, Alien Vendetta, Deus Vults, Whispers of Satan and who knows what other maps.

But where do they come from? I've never managed to find out who was the first to use them. Do they signify anything? What's the purpose of that trident thing?

>>3688682
It's from Heretic you fucking retard.
> hurr i love classic fps i played 999999 wads
> never played fucking heretic

>>3688682
The trident is a symbol on various banners in Heretic.

>>3688494
Could be an amusing mechanic for a skillsaw wad.

>start map in a very small space, no enemies, just the slots
>play slots
>get result, next segment of map opens up for you to go and clear
>hit a switch and return to the map's central slotwheel hub
>eventually can clear the map in a multitude of ways
>amusing mutators and restrictions applied
It would be Reelism; the Megawad.

>>3688682

>>3688682
heretic, that's the sigils of the final boos

>>3688682
The glass comes from Hexen. The Cyberdemon comes from Doom. The rest is Heretic.

>>3688686

>>3688682
It's probably the sigil of the serpent riders.

>>3688674

Why does everything have to be a meme nowadays ?

>>3688210
Have you ever seen a youtube poop before? The We are Number One song is basically a victim of that, but with a layer of meta humor on top because the humor comes from the act of editing and not the finished product. It's about defying expectations and creating absurd and original scenarios from the foundation of something that doesn't really "deserve" it. There is a second layer of meta involved in people making videos in response to other videos or building off of other videos, which plays off of youtubes system, where someone who happens to watch the first big edit when it came out will be greeted with more and more increasingly absurd edits in their recommendation bar as time goes on.

It's not post ironic, it's pure ironic humor, people don't actually sit down and laugh their ass off watching the bee movie play at increasingly high speeds, they laugh at the idea that someone actually made the video or that the video is being presented as humor. If it was post ironic, they would genuinely find the concept funny in itself, but that is a fundamental understanding of what's going on and what people see in it.

Polite sage for off topic

>>3688690
Either Hexen or Heretic

>>3688484
>>3688486

Make them optional or the level not reward dependent. Depending on luck to progress can be frustrating.

In big rewards prefer to give a lot of tiny rewards rather than a big one (like make the machine spit 100 health bonus instead of a supercharge)

Punishments are okay as long as they doesn't result in death. First machine should reward the player so he gets hooked

>>3688691
>the eyes

>>3688703

>>3688681
>>3688693
The "no one has ever beaten Doom" meme.
Speaking of that, does anyone have the graph showing that the possibility of anyone ever having beaten Doom being lower than the WTC after 9/11?

>>3688682
>not recognizing D'Sparil
do you even heretic bro

>>3688705
Googlydoom.wad when?

>>3688708

>>3688706
it's probably higher.

>>3688486
that Joker Doom yooo

>Yholl hated sounds for my guns
>updated the sounds and added animations months ago
>DUMP 3 weapons released yesterday
>updates to weapons aren't mine, sounds are the same as they were originally

fuck the actual what

Jesus dick, anyone making levels should learn ACS. You'll feel like a god. The possibilities are endless.

You could make a multi-path level without worrying about missing items or monsters at the end tally. Repopulate a reoccuring area with increasingly challenging enemies. Or easily do something like >>3688673.

It's some cool shit.

>>3688706
>>3688692
>>3688691
>>3688690
>>3688687
>>3688686
>>3688684
>>3688683
Okay, okay, I got it. I should play Heretic. And maybe Hexen too.

I had no idea. I just thought that someone made a really influential WAD in the early days of Doom modding and created those textures and everyone then just copied them. Of course I could never find this mysterious WAD.

>>3688721
make a sub-mod

Newbie here, after some years I want to play Vanilla Doom, but I'm on Windows 7, what should I do?

>>3688726
>>I had no idea. I just thought that someone made a really influential WAD in the early days of Doom modding and created those textures and everyone then just copied them. Of course I could never find this mysterious WAD.

Well, you were right. This someone was Raven Software, and the WAD was Heretic.

>>3688730
For plain vanilla, you'll want Chocolate Doom: https://www.chocolate-doom.org/wiki/index.php/Downloads

>>3688731
kek/10

LMAO

Eat shit Steam, eat fucking shit.

http://store.steampowered.com/news/26415/

>>3688738
>The “I Thought This Game Was Cool Before It Won An Award” Award
>Starbound

And to think I ever doubted that Steamfags were retarded.

>>3688738
Gog.com master race

>>3688738
>Doom didn't win the test of time nomination
yeah nah

>>3688738
wow, what a shit show

>>3688738
>>3688743
I mean, really, Skyrim? That game is shit. Oblivion was better. It's a mainstream meme game is what it is.

>>3688731
Well... I guess when you put it that way, then yes I kinda did finally find it :-)

>>3688724
please dont use mouselook in zdoom

>>3688746
I don't think Skyrim has "stood the test of time" all that well, but I don't see why people are so fond of Oblivion, I REALLY don't think it's that good outside of Shivering Isles, for all the technological advances, they dumbed the game down a LOT compared to Morrowind.

Skyrim was hardly perfect but it fixed a bunch of flaws Oblivion had.

>>3688749
Are you saying Skyrim is better than Oblivion?

>>3688748

I'll take it one step further

>>3688740
>Villain in need of a hug
>B*rd*rl*nds 2

>Skyrim on Test of Time when that game aged like feces
>TF2 also on Test of Time when Valve fucked it over just in time for Overwatch's launch

>le walking dead lol epic zombies!!

Oh SHIT OFF.

>>3688746
>meme game

Can you fucking stop as well?

>>3688728
i'd rather get my weapons fixed up properly for everyone's sake

Thoughts

VILLAIN category: shrug
COOL: shrug I'd have chosen Terraria
TEST OF TIME: haven't touched TF2 or Terraria in awhile but both did eat up lots of my time
5 MINUTES: CS:GO to me is five more minutes of me turbojewing my shitty inventory on the market, lol. Terraria is very good for this category. Why are Skyrim and Fallout 4 in two different categories as well as Civ IV and V?
WHOA DUDE: Glad DOOM made it here at least, certainly fits
GAME IN GAME: Ok Garry's or Tabletop obviously win this, probably
CRY HARDER: Yeah while Undertale has its shitty fans I thought it was good. To the Moon was sad too.
FARM ANIMAL: Stardew Valley Farming Simulator too obvious, probably Goat Simulator because lols.
BOOM: DOOM is boom but KSP in this category is hilarious
LOVE/HATE: Ya know I know DS is supposed to be hard but DS3 kind of went a bit overboard on the fuck yous, to me
RELAX: Honestly I could use more comfy games. Too bad I only played Skylines (fuck traffic)
BETTER WITH FRIENDS: Holy shit Magicka.

Sad that "Game most Deserving of a Sequel" didn't make it because HL2 was going to win that one.

>>3688751
I am not a purist anon, just wanted to tell you that mouselook in zdoom causes distortion that makes me motion sick and looks just terrible. gzdoom for mouselook with no autoaim, zdoom for autoaim with no mouselook

>>3688749
That was my point. Oblivion was okay. Skyrim was worse.
I liked how the NPCs in Oblivion seemed to have some life to them. Some would even venture from town to town.
Skyrim felt dead in comparison.

>>3688753
No.
But okay.

>>3688757

I just realized that the moment I posted it. you said ZDOOM specifically, yeah that fisheye lens affect is sickening.

On the plus side I got to post a goofy webm

>>3688751
>tfw always hop around like a retard when traversing damage floors
>tfw megawad disables jump

>>3688750
Skyrim fucked up many things, but at least the level scaling wasn't that brutal. In Oblivion, low levels enemies stop spawning after a while, so you never feel like you're progressing.

But Skyrim is pretty shitty too.
>enemies' damage and HP are independant from their equipement
>it's perfectly possible to loot a shit-tier sword on an enemy that was killing you in two hits, simply because of the scale system
And since there are no stats, the weapons' damages are fixed.

>>3688738

i liked what imx_doomer said, it looks like TF2 got nominated as a consolation prize from the fans to themselves after overwatch blew it out of the mainstream scene

>>3688762

Overwatch didn't kill TF2. Valve killed TF2

>>3688759
>fisheye lens affect
It's called Y-shearing you dip.

>>3688748
>>3688757
>>3688759
Sorry, Anon, I just wanted to highlight that I was hammering the switch, since there's no sound.

considering the mods people make for it Skyrim coulda won best porn game on steam

>>3688763

sadly true

TF2 is pic related

>>3688771
I had a lot of fun with TF2. I still have it installed on my computer, despite struggling for hard drive free space, and despite all my favourite server being dead.

>>3688750
Not him but I would agree that Oblivion is better than Skyrim in some regards and vice-versa but only marginally. I personally prefer Skyrim over Oblivion but that really doesn't make it "better" as you put it. Ever since I got into table top rpgs I've found both of them kind of off-putting anyway so overall I don't really give a shit

>>3688763
HOW?! They literally JUST ADDED competitive mode. They should've done it fucking 5 years ago, but come on. They saved it.

>>3688771
yep.

It used to be so much fun.... fun maps, fun halloween events, a thriving and not fucked economy, non-retarded numbers of cosmetics

now it's just ded. I haven't played in probably 3 years....


Valve can be dumb. They disabled being able to detonate sticky bombs when taunting (WTF?) and they keep doing stupid balancing changes; half the guns seem to be like

-2.678% reload speed
+16.7899% damage (except on Tuesday)
-Does not fire when jumping
-No minicrits


t. has 2500 hours in TF2 and wants it to be 2011 again

>>3688776

Their game is so poorly optimized at this point it's not even funny, plus they keep breaking weapons that had no problems with them, whoever's in charge of balancing TF2 at the moment doesn't know what the fuck they're doing

>>3688780

Them nerfing the righteous bison was the final straw for me.

>>3688780
>They disabled being able to detonate sticky bombs when taunting (WTF?)
There's worse. The sticky jumper is now limited to two stickies at once. You could go fast at first, now you can't anymore.

>>3688781
They nerfed the coolest-looking bazooka in the game? Maaan, that sucks.

>>3688737
Thanks anon

>>3688780
> hurr im that retard who mindlessly does the exact same shit without even trying to learn and is proud of his hourage, me be sad game no more like it was cause nostalgia
Fuck off to dota 2.

>>3688782
hahaha oh man the shenanigans I ran with the sticky jumper, dustbowl 2 (yea I'm a casual scrub) pop stickies fly out the gate past the level 3 on the hut, land on the point and cap with the pain train, scout bonks past the whole enemy team and runs for the second point and we cap it in under 20 seconds

>>3688782

The righteous bison was the laser gun secondary for the solider. They crippled the projectile speed and its piercing ability, claiming it was a bug even though there was a tooltip in the game for years telling players to use the piercing effect of the bison to kill fleeing enemies.

At that point I knew they went full retard and I gave up on the game

This sis stupid as fuck

>http://www.pcgamer.com/valve-reveals-steam-awards-nominees/?

>>3688787
and being able to fly around with a medic buddy and the quick-fix....

used to have lots of fun on 2fort_classic with the glitch where you could get into the enemy spawn with the high-five taunt


>>3688785
never played it :^)

>>3688789
yeah that's fucking moronic, my favourite secondary weapon for soldier

valve really know how to make something incredible and then proceed to ruin it

>>3688783
You're welcome. Do note however, that Chocolate Doom can't play any newer mods/maps (with a few exceptions). For that, You'll need either ZDoom or PRBoom-Plus.

>>3688738

Welp, yet another reason to pirate the IWADs. Valve doesn't deserve our money.

>>3688789
>They crippled the projectile speed and its piercing ability
It was already bad before, with the bullets being uselessly slow.
Shotgun for life.

>>3688802
*cough* gog.com *cough*

>>3688738
>http://store.steampowered.com/news/26415/
>nominations THIS SHIT

wow i mean holy shit that's aids.

REAL WINNERS:
TEST OF TIME: DOOM
COOL: EDF 4.1
5 MINS : TF2
WHOA DUDE: PA:Legion
CRYIN': Evolve. You take that one up with Benellus.
GAME IN GAME: fucking garry's mod.
FARM: Postal 2
VILLAN: Overlord 2

>>3688804

It used to be great for chokepoints and idiots not paying attention, or just to harass targets for free seeing as you could reload infinitely. For general scraps yeah the shotgun was best.

In fact I'd rank TF2's shotgun as one of the best videogame shotguns out there, the thing is a fucking workhorse.

>>3688805

And Zenimax/modern id doesn't deserve any cent for something people who no longer work at the company made either.

Don't kid yourself, you knew you were going to get this answer.

it's always fun to see how people change up the nazi enemy for wads

I've seen aliens, alternative soldiers... what other things have they been?

>>3688812

Dopefish

>>3688809
I'm gonna be honest, I think I killed more people with the shotgun when I did with the flamethrower, when I played the pyro. It's just awesome. The only weapon that was simple to use and really gratifying, since casuals often forgot about it.

>>3688812
Metroid's Space Pirates.
3D Homer Simpson.

>>3688810
B-but Hugo Martin....

>>3688821

Marty, Hugo and the rest of the team deserve the money for Doom '16, I'll give you that one.

But the IWADs?

>>3688738
THESE AWARDS ARE SHIT
WE'RE MAKING OUR OWN
ARISE, MY GOLDEN BONERS!
>>3688808
ALSO: PROTOTYPE

>>3688828

>>3688824

>>3688824
IT IS MY DECREE THAT ALL IWADS COME PRE-INSTALLED ON YOUR OS.

>>3688836
how about the computers that aren't in russia

>>3688836

q:

why didn't doom2 have a shareware version?

>>3688839
ALL OF THEM.
I APOLOGIZE FOR COMING OFF AS PRETENTIOUS. YOU KNOW HOW DEITYS ARE.

>>3687492
>>3687553
Are you trying to say none of you goddam sonuvaguns even tried to get AD co-op going?

>>3688852
So you can only caps post if you're a fucking namefag otherwise you get banned? Genius.

>>3688845

doom 2 was meant to be retail-only

>>3688852
DEITIES*
I have fixed it for You my Lord.

>>3688854
Don't bully the caco.

>>3688856
You tell me.

>>3688864
Okay but hear me out here:

What if we bully the caco

>>3688869
the fuck

>>3688864
You tell me RIGHT NOW how to set up a quakespasm server people can actually connect to or the caco gets it

>>3688871
No.

>>3688862
Thank you. You tend to inherit a modicum of the retardation of one of your creators.

>>3688889
Uhhhh... You're welcome?

>>3688893
Yes

>>3688898
K then

only IWADS deserves to be pirated, Doom 3 deserves to be forgotten

NuDOOM Deserves to be bought and played the shit out of it, because Marty and Hugo got shit done, All thanks to Todd Howard and Pete Hines who stepped up and told Carmack and Hollenstead to GTFO with their Call of Doom ideas, and go back to the old basics.

>>3688923
Weak bait, mate. WEAK.

>>3688854
>>3688874
Seriously though, 3 threads I've been asking this. If any quake enthusiasts are ITT, please feed me with your rusty spoon. I'll be thankful on the inside.

Actually answer me only this question: do clients need to forward the 26000 port for fitzquake protocol as well as hosts? This will help immensly.

>>3688706
>The "no one has ever beaten Doom" meme.

It's a dumb meme and has no reason to be played along with.

>>3688812
I really liked the space pirates in Metrood.

>>3688936

its not a bait, remember that carmack wanted CoD Doom until Bethesda told them to go back to classic doom.

>>3688952
Drednought needs to be updated, atleast is damn easy now to make sprites using SFM, nintendo inst giving a fuck for metroid models there and on Garry's mod

>>3688968
I don't really approve the airhead Samus. I liked her as a silent, determined death machine.

>>3688968
>not pictured: Doomguy breaking Shepherd's faggot face in

>>3688968
>Drednought needs to be updated,
With what?

>>3688972
This T B H famalam.

I need a mapset to run through on UV with DRLA. Go.

>>3689016
Doom ep 4

>>3688972
>>3689012

She is kind of a derp though.

>>3689025
Nah, she's moé.

>>3689025
Not in the Prime games.

Fuck, I liked the masculine Samus that you have in the ending of Metroid Prime. A shame they retconned that in the sequel and made her a sex bomb.

why oh why

do I hardly feel the need to *really* conserve ammo?

some wads seem like they try to squeeze you, but they always end up giving you an awful lot of something no matter what

so sure, you might be out of rockets, but then a room of cells appears or the like

if I were a map maker, I would do it by removing the amount of ammo in the map from the map, that I have remaining at the end of a conservative play-through of the map

if that makes sense

>>3688068
Has anyone made a .wad that bridges the gap between Doom 64 and DOOM 2016?

>>3689034
>A shame they retconned that in the sequel and made her a sex bomb.

Are you new to the franchise?

>>3689043
I discovered the games with Metroid Prime.
Sega forever.

>>3688981
some anon stated here some ideas to update dreadnought a few months ago

>more monsters and maybe bosses, Kraid using the cyberdemon mechanics, Ridley and Omega Mother brain using the dragon and Korax from Hexen
>Zero suit mode
>Samus Power/Varia Suit Player skin using her Super Metroid Sprite Set

>>3688972

Said goes to any silent protagonist of the 90's, Expect the Doomguy petting little animals or even working on pet store, or Freeman Teaching Physics101 in a school or college

In samus case, her clusterfuck of personalities its all Nintendo and Team Ninja's fault

>MUH BABY
>MUH PTSD

Everyone back then saw her as Fem Doomguy + Ellen Ripley aback then, until the manga, 3: Corruption and Other M screwed up with that

>>3689048

That's fair.
First off, welcome to the franchise. It's a good one, one of my personal favorites. Glad to have another bro.
Second off, Samus has been sexy since way early on. If anything, Prime is the odd one out, since they made her more western masculine rather than the vaguely-anime beautiful that's the norm.

I think it was better when it was less the focus of the character, though. Goddamn Zero Suit.

>>3689054
The moment she started talking, the game became bad.

>>3689056
Only played the first two Metroid Prime games, through. The last one never came out on Gamecube.
I still loved the fuck out of them. Completely 100% them both in hard mode.

Also, that artstyle is oddly familiar.

>>3688209
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ki4Xc3ixtc

>>3688741
this

>>3688748
make me

>>3688757
it's not that bad tbqh

>>3689017
twatch tv

An interview with the creators of Arcane Dimensions

http://www.mapcore.org/articles/interviews/arcane-dimensions-a-new-quake-world-r90/

tl;dr They all used at least 2 map editors

>>3688606
>not knowing about the impse
>>3688738
>test of time
>a bethesda game
>fucking skyrim
I know normies have no taste, but seriously now

>>3689149
exactly

To understand that joke, I must ask the obvious.

Is it difficult to make Doom run on a computer?

>>3689302
Depends on the OS.

But Doom is basically the next step up from "Hello, world!" and is a very common tool for technical engineers to learn how systems work.

>>3689308
I'm really sorry, but it's time for an even dumber question.

What's "Hello, world!"?

>>3688738
Aside of all those shit choices, I agree 100% with Age of Empires 2, to be fair I never got tired of Aoe2 after all those years, same goes to Doom, Blood and Duke Nukem. In fact, I can't even play it anymore, if I do I may end up playing for over 30 hours without even realizing it.

But for Skyrim. It's a fucking 2011 game, it's not even that old (along with Civ 5 and Terraria, I give TF2 a pass because the game is a sequel and it took 12 years to develop and it's been 9 years since it released in 2007), along with the fact that it looked like shit when it was released and looks even worse as time pass. What I hated more was the quests (on that aspect people say that Oblivion is better, but I'm not a Elder Scrolls fan, I might give a try someday), I spent the majority of the game fighting draughrs and seeing little variation. I had more fun adding mods to the game, checking if they were work and then I quit, I'm not even kidding, I had more fun troubleshooting mods than actually playing the game with them.

>>3689316
It's literally the first thing you do when you start to learn programming

I couldn't make it work

>>3688943
SEND HELP

>>3689318
Let's be honest, Skyrim is pretty terrible. The map is awesome, but the combat is just terrible. I could go on and on about it, but it's not Doom.

>>3689320
Ha, it's the test message?

>>3689326

Skyim needs a Hexen/Heretic mod ASAP

>>3689302
It's possible to run doom on a kindle or a graphical calculator

>>3689308
Who cares about OS, it's all x64-86 compatibles.

>>3689326
>Ha, it's the test message?
yep

>>3689326
Yes, you just make the computer display the text "Hello, world".

That's literally it.

>>3688738
MEANWHILE

http://www.sourcefilmmaker.com/saxxyawards2016/

>>3689327
I like Skyrim's mana system. In Hexen/Heretic, magic is just a cosmetic skin over weapons.

>>3689330
>It's possible to run doom on a kindle or a graphical calculator
What the fuck? Seriously?

>>3689331
>>3689334
Yeah, okay. I get it.

>>3689326
>Ha, it's the test message?
10 PRINT "HELLO WORLD"
20 GO TO 10

>>3689337
> using C at all
Nigger that's not even funny at this point.bmp

>>3689336
>What the fuck? Seriously?
Yes.

>>3689339
How?!

Internal Conflict got updated?

>>3689338
That's commodore BASIC you philistine

>>3689346
Wizardry

holy shit this thread is too edgy for me

stupid niggers

>>3688776
competitive in tf2 was played since 2007-2009 depending on the region
valve's comp mm is already abandoned since comp players and pubbies both know its shit and well bellow the lowest expectations they had for it.
the ruleset is garbage, there are no tutorials, and even copy pastin everything from csgo would've made it better as ranks just dont work.

>>3689335
Tbh I understand why living in obscurity got drama IMO.

>>3688763
memerwatch just took the already frustrated tf2 players into their fold

i see a lot of tf2 player bitching about OW's shit mechanics and how that games holds your hand in everything, most of them stopped even playing OW and returned back to TF2 because everything in OW is stupid for competitive play, and blizard will never admit that, is the same shit that they did with SC2, HOTS and Even WoW atm.

they're just selling hype, and disguising it as "fun".

>>3689453
this posts reeks heavily of "stop liking what I don't like"

>>3689453
OW might hold your hand but TF2 does a horrible job at teaching you how to play.

i started playing at 2009 so i had plenty of time to adapt as new weapons were released and mechanics changed, but imagine a completely new guy, opening TF2 for the first time, seeing the shitloads of different modes and weapons. its just too much.

>>3689463
Because TF2 expects you to not be a moron.

>>3688068
Hey the link to get all of the IWADs is dead does anyone have a backup?

>>3688753
honestly TTG's first waling dead interactive adventure was pretty good

>>3689025
if i remember well there's an official manga (mostly of the events before the first metroid game) and yeah, she's pretty badass

>>3689475

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/fd4bu64t90wy1ro/AADn4r100J_7zns8S5-_a6WBa?dl=0

>>3689336
>What the fuck? Seriously?
Is this your first day of discovering Doom?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NsN2JIRGHAo

>>3689562
Whaaaaaaaaaaat?

>>3689320
print "hello world";

Does someone have a copy of Nazi Auferstehung? I want to see the legend for myself.

>>3689567
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1nA17vb3KM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-AnvqiKzjY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XLHx3vO7KJM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GD0L46y3IqI

>>3689042
MetaDoom is the closest you'll get so far.

>>3688854
At first glance I thought it was a caco in a wedding dress
Too cute

>>3689042
I assume every 5 player coop (maybe 6 if the traitorous member does not appear in doom 4) counts as Doomguy's adventures with the Night Sentinels

>>3689597
What with Americans crossing arms? There are others postures.

>>3689605
What?

>>3689614
The Night Sentinels are all crossing their arms, to try to look badass. It's a common American thing, people in these show, Pawn Starts and Kitchen Nightmare, they crosses arm a lot.

It looks ridiculous, not badass. Not to mention you can't hold a weapon that way, so a night sentinel crossing their arms like that is just saying "I am unarmed, please eat my face".

At least give them a fucking pistol, it'll be better than trying to strike a post. Am I supposed to be intimated or impressed?

>>3689619
>>3689605
What's with the ESL and /int/-posting?

>>3689619
>It's a common American thing
an arm gesture is not exactly something exclusive to america

be careful /vr/, Overwatch general is shtiposting all over 4chan because of tracer

>>3689647
Boy, >>3689462 must have had you in a tipsy, huh?

>>3689647

...Okay?

I really will stop coming to 4chan, if the VR gets invaded by porn or politics. It just has nothing to do with retro vidya.

>>3689660
>if the VR gets invaded by porn

Let me tell you about HDoom.

>>3689660
>or politics

Let me tell you about Trump Doom.

>>3689660
>
>let me tell you about Doom.

Trying to figure out a style.
I kinda like idea of black sludge around, but I think it might look bit too off - maybe I'll save the gimmick for some other map. I probably should combine this map with some tech and vegetation. Sort of 'ancient alium tech temple overrun by mold and vegetation'.

>>3688082
Russian ambassador was shot in Ankara, Turkey by security - later succumbed to injuries and the perpetrator was killed. There's video footage of it around.

>>3689674

i think you meant to quote >>3688087

>>3689650
and you come from /v/ to shitpost here on /vr/ nigga please

JANITOR!

>>3689647
>Tracer is gay

Wow, amazing.

>>3689682
Oh, so you're shitposting. Okay.

>>3689660
>It just has nothing to do with retro vidya.
people are talking about NuDoom.

There.
You are free to leave

http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=19139
wow

>>3689680
Yeah, that was the intent.

>>3689619
>It's a common American thing
Uh, no, it's a documented kind of body language, this is something we as humans do, people will do it subconsciously even.

>>3689660

we are deeply concerned about your departure

>>3688898
Wow, even your reaction images have filters on them.
God you're pathetic.

>>3689539
thank you so much!

>>3689714
HOW D A R E YOU OFFEND HIS MAJESTY

jk

>>3689619
First, Gordon Ramsay is British.
Second, the sentinels only had swords and shields.

>>3689576
Ah thanks!

>>3689576
>>3689597
Ah thanks guys! I was hoping someone made a wad of the Doomguy killing the Titan after Doom 64 and all that knight sentinel stuff haha

Compiling my quake map after adding some sloped bits and overlapping bits... it wont compile though, and I get this error, any ideas what could be causing it? The map did run before.

>>3689757
It would take some time. The game did just some out.

>>3689730
Actually, he is Scottish.

>>3688738
>starbound
>life is strange
>undertale

>>3689660
>he doesn't know that /vr/ has already been colonized by /v/ for a while

>>3689787
How would you not expect Undertale to make it into at least one bracket with the fanbase it has. I don't understand Starbound though, I didn't even think it had a fanbase.

>>3688751
Thank you for making that.

>>3688751
>that ending

10/10

>>3689792
desu I'd completely forgotten about undermeme until I read that
starbound was completely gutted in it's beta a shame too it could have been good but has the "fortune" of a rabid fanbase on the forums that will defend to the death it's creators laziness.

>>3689806
>meme

please don't do that

>>3689807
oh my I'm deeply sorry to have offended you anon

Hello, I am a newfag to /vr/ and this general in particular.

Read the faq, but wasn't answered there

Where do I got to talk about Doom 2016? I don't want to start a shitstorm since this is /vr/, but I'm not sure where else to go.

>ib4 /v/
>that contrarian shithole

Thanks, and sorry.

>>3689868
/r/doom

get out while you can.

>>3689787
personally i enjoy starbound but it held no place in that list

>>3689871

Alright, I get the point.

Sorry for the disturbance.

>>3689879
uuunfffff

>>3689868
it seems discussing modern games in franchise threads are allowed, if they don't dominate the discussion. modern dragon quest games aren't deleted in dragon quest threads, for example.

>>3689889
We even discuss Quake 4 here sometimes

>>3689761
find concave brush and remove it?

>>3689879
T H I C C

>>3689868
Generally, discussing modern games/xpacks/systems in /vr/ is tolerated as long as they don't become the focal point of a thread.

>>3689882
>>3689896

>>3689879
>>3689882
>>3689930

are these natty?

>>3689930
Why do demons have such defined asses? Is Adrian an ass man?

>>3689942
>Is Adrian an ass man?
Doomguy never skips leg day too, if you see what I mean

>>3689761

>>3689942

>>3689969
Have some goatmen royalty.

>>3689951

>>3689994

am i supposed to be seeing something in this

>>3689597
>traitorous member
I thought The Traitor was a demon from hell that gave Doomguy his armor.

>>3689994

>>3689660
>What is /pol/.wad?

>>3689761
Depending on editor go to the bit that tells you what your current brush errors are and find the one that says you fucked up

how did you even manage to make a concave brush?

>>3689785
You wife's son is Scottish, also black.

Wew lad, why is JohnnyDoom a superior BD spin-off? Shit is delicious with some the bullshit turned off. Playing through DtwId:LE right now, and it's somehow great.
Chainsaw and pistol are great.
Perfect violence is the lowest setting.
Just wished the combo system had some sort of stunlock while CQCing.

>>3689868
>>>/v/
You just need to disguise the thread as if you were shitting on the game, so people will come and have a good discussion about the game.
It's what everyone does.

>>3690009
Fuck off.

>>3690017
>JohnnyDoom
Does it work on Zandronum?

>>3690017
>Vanilla Monsters
>No fatalities
>Blood: Low - 1
>UV 125% or Combat Carl
The game is now pretty fresh with minimal bullshit aside from glorious gibs and sprite """Ragdolls,"""" without the hideous blood pools.
The action bonuses are plentiful and balanced enough to turn gimmicky fatalities off.
Vanilla Monsters means pistol only, no rifle.
Seems to work with a lot of WADs balance wise, unlike BDv20 or BPv9. Or that fucking monstrosity that is Project Brutality.
By far my new favorite NuDoom substitute.
Good alternative from SmoothDoom/pure OG. Kinda need to nerf ammo capacity, somehow

>>3690032
Dunno if you're fucking with me senpai
I'm running GZ obviously and never play with anyone else ever, not ever tried Zandronum :_;

>>3690024
are you okay

>>3690009

I was waiting for someone to do this

>>3690009
>>3690024
>>3690056

is it supposed to be loss

>>3690058
yes

>>3690058
NEDM

Not Even Doom Music

>>3689660
Then get the fuck out while you can.

YOU ARE GONNA BE ENRICHED BY HARD CALCIUM FILLED BONES

>>3690061

Took you guys long enough. smdh

>>3690061

oh, that makes more sense

>>3690058
I know, that why I said: "Fuck off."

I'm not sure how I survived this...

>>3690078
SHITSHITSHIT

>>3690079
[lost soul slowly drifts into frame as if taunting]

rng a foul mistress

>>3689930
>>3689942
>>3689972
What is there to do in hell but get gains?

>>3690113
Kill other demons

>>3690128

I never, ever liked that edit. There's just so many wrong things about it

>>3688694
Just an FYI I'm pretty sure a post with an image will bump regardless of whether or not you sage, only a text post like this one will work (unless it's been changed or it's board-specific)

>>3690078
>>3690079
>>3690080
This is why you should pause your game before alt-tabbing.

>>3690126
>>3690128
>>3690130
>filters

>>163308338
I dunno, Cities Skylines and Planet Coaster are still around.

>>3690153
>"stop liking what I don't like REEEEEE"
Oh, fuck off.

>>3690161
those do look rather bad 2bh

>>3690161
Disisbait.pk3

>>3690161

>>3690017
I'd like it more if it didn't lag like hell desu

ho ho ho! The map's done, I guess I'll use the last few days for polish and balancing or something.

Is there a Star Wards wad for Doom?

>>3690348
Yes, there're various Star Wars themed wads, this one in example: https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/themes/starwars/starwar4

>>3690348
There's Star Wars Dark Forces, which is basically a Doom/Duke 3D kind of Star Wars game.

>>3690348
Star Wars mods for Doom are pretty much as old as Doom itself

>>3688068
I'm playing DOOM 64 EX and HOLY SHIT IT'S FUCKING AWESOME!!!!!

THAT LEVEL DESIGN IS LETHAL!!!!

>>3690369
Doom 64 EX is the real Doom 3.

>>3690370
Thus Doom 3 is actually Doom 4, and what came out this year is really Doom 5?

>>3690372
Doom 3 is just kinda there, it's like an alternative universe retelling of the first game.

>>3690369
Doom 64 > Classic Doom

>>3690358
>>3690360
>>3690368
Neat. I hope the lasers won't be slow in these. I always hated how slow the lasers were in the Jedi Knight games. I'm sure you could outrun them and get hit by your own bullets back then.

Why does quakespasm limit fps to 72 by default? Is it a physics thing or can I change it without braking things?

>>3690386
Because the original Quake was hard-capped at 72fps. Yes, it's a physics thing, inherent to all the early id engines- i.e. Q2/3 multiplayer where lower framerate meant not jumping as far.

>>3690403
My question is mainly will raising it cause issues, or has quakespasm/it's lineage fixed any related issues? It seems to run noticeably choppy when I have it set at the default, but raising it fixes it and doesn't appear to cause any issues. I'm just not really familiar with how Q1 should "feel", I'm mostly used to Q3, so I'm not sure if its off or anything.

>>3690153

>filters

was there one time this Asperging worked?

>>3690409
No. But autists have trouble learning, so he'll keep sperging about it.

Apparently there's already 11 entires in QUMP so far, looking pretty good. I wonder how much of those are from /vr/ and how much are from func?

>>3690415
>check func_
>"I started building a quake map and decided someone should start a QUMP project,"

who's this nerd

i spammed QUMP posts for literally months

On the subject of Doom 4, what is the most popular series lore on /vr/?

I don't quite understand how Doom 4's story takes place after Doom1-2-64, since it seems to both reference the three and reboot the original.

>>3690420
>Doom 4
Qué?

>>3690423
NuDoom
don't play coy you cheeky breeky

>>3690419
Evidtently this other person actually did something about it other than "wouldnt qump be cool guys"

Any good maps where I can slaughter tons of monsters?

>>3690454
UV Sunlust

I had a lot of fun with it, at least

>>3688576
xD upvoted

Is it bad if I play the game with the arsenal weapons mod?

>>3690462
that might be out of my league

>>3690467

dude, play with a dragon dildo up your ass if you like it that way

>>3690476
get good then


no but I was about to quit after the 1st level, too. I powered through, it was tough, but in the end (and probably 6 gorrilion deaths later) I think it's one of my favorite doom experiences

give it a shot, yo

>>3690482
HMP difficulty here I come!

>>3690487
don't forget to enable the hi- rez texture override thing if you're using prboom+

a few levels have special background textures

>>3690360

said dark forces, as along with blood and outlaws WILL NEVER HAVE A PROPER SOURCE PORT

Also, there's way to replace most of Doom: ONE stupid extra OST?

id love to see a midi version of this one

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IamYtUfjjb4

>>3690482
So sunlust is basically like going down? Cool looking visuals and insanely difficult gameplay?

>>3690493
It's a very refined look; It has a more centralized theme which develops as the levels progress. Going down has excellent architecture which contributes to the feel and play of the wad, while Sunlust is beautiful... and very hard.

>>3690493
sunlusts gameplay is different. not cyberdreams different, but it sure isn't what you'll ever encounter in regular maps.

I added two tutorials to the qump pdf

I'm trying to get a copy of The Hows and Whys of Level Design

>>3690476
Play some Plutonia to git gud, then find the secret levels to get a good first taste of slaughter.

>>3690347
FFS FINALLY! Do you know any other winter wads? CaH is too demanding for my pc station.

Do metadoom or d4d have their own maps like BD and PB or are those just wepsets for retarded kids?

>>3690525
PB has its own mapset?

>>3690530
Yeah, just like BD(2) and DE. I think SD is planning that as well.

I just got to the city levels in DOOM II and holy shit this is awful. Big ass maps with no direction and monsters poorly placed everywhere... truly I have breached hell.

Again, my inability to fiddle with details and not work the actual map layout ruins me.

>>3690556
It's a Hell on Earth

>>3690560
It's not Earth you fucking retard. It's earth - but they capitalized every noun like dumb cuntinos.

>>3690515

added the hows and why of level design pdf

>>3690556
It's pretty agreed that from The Factory onward Doom II isn't very good. Levels are too big and don't have enough direction and it's just not that fun.

>>3690568
>Levels are too big
Oh yeah, the game is too long, levels are too big, there are too many monsters, I want more micro-levels with just 2 imps in a corridor.

>>3690541
What are these acronyms and how can i find these levels? googling only reveals the starter pack

>>3690563
But a large part of the game is set on planet Earth anyway. In either case what is even the problem here?

>>3690569
No, you're right. Mt. Erebus was the highlight of the original DOOM, every level should be just like that.

>>3690572
It's not. Last chapter of doom 2 takes place in marine's hometown which is NOT an Earth town. It's just a planet LIKE Earth, but it's not Earth.

>>3690575
The Intermission clearly states this is planet Earth

>>3690575
>"It's just a planet LIKE Earth, but it's not Earth"
>game is called Hell On Earth
>explains that the entire human population is trapped on earth

>>3690481
Man, I'm never gonna get a dragon dildo.

>>3690557
That looks really nice though.

>>3690602
Your post made me google dragon.
I found a bullet called dragon breath. I hope it isn't the same thing.

>>3690605
I probably wouldn't recommend using one of those for dildonic purposes, Anon.

>>3690605

>>3690623
It seems perfect to clean your butthole of all the hair.

>>3690626
>alcohol and styrofoam
What.

>>3688757
>motion sick
enjoy your subpar genetics

Animation is still really fucking hard.

I'm gonna make the big beam split in half and melt away to reveal the sword soon

>>3690130
That's a pretty sky. What wad?

>>3690670
Ancient Aliens

>>3690626
>tfw no "Fuck your shit" shotgun rounds in doom
I remember an old X-com mod adding napalm rounds.
That was the shit