/vr/ - Retro Games

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Sorry fags, best RE is not retro

>>3651470
>magic teleporting kike with a shit accent
>enemies drop supplies
>shooting galleries
>escort mission
>no puzzles
>QTEs

shit game made for tasteless dudebros, the aiming is the only good thing about it

>>3651461
Equally good, for different reasons.

Resident evil is the best "Retro" game

REmake is the best overall game

>>3651594
>remake

Not better overall than 2, not better in gameplay than 3.

>>3651594

>Resident evil
>Best anything

Hahahaha

>>3651527
Let's be fair, the puzzles in RE accomplished little more than wasting your time because of their trivial difficulty.

>>3652228
>Let's be fair, the puzzles in RE accomplished little more than wasting your time because of their trivial difficulty
>wasting your time

Puzzles and key hunting in early RE made up a pretty significant chunk of the game

>>3652228

Tell that to people who cant even figure out the music puzzle or water puzzle in RE3

>>3650661
What would you want to see in a new, fixed-camera-angle style horror game?

>>3651594
>Resident evil is the best "Retro" game
WRONG.

RE2 > RECV > RE1 > RE3

>>3652247
the water sample puzzle I can understand since it's random and a pain in the ass, but not breezing through the music box one is inexcusable (except for tonedeaf ppl, rip)

>>3652485
Bad voice acting similar to RE1 and other games from that era would be a good start.

>>3651527
The seller isn't always the same guy. There's a point in the game where you see a lot of them impaled on spikes, and later on, you'll meet one that has red eyes.

>>3651461
gr8 b8

>>3651470
re4 is a great game, but it did signal the end of resident evil as a survival horror franchise, which is sad. I wish re4 was a new IP or a spin off.

>>3652504
you have CV and 3 mixed up friendo

>>3653342
3 wasn't very good tbqh.

>>3652504
>CV
>above anything

wrong

>>3653321

the one with red eyes is probably just having a dude weed lmao moment

>>3652754
Even if you're literaly deaf, you have no excuse for the music box puzzle. You're given 2 solutions, try both of them, one of them is correct.

>>3652754
Isn't the water sample puzzle "Add up these tetris blocks"?

>>3653517
Which emulator and what configuration do you have using with the filtering?

>>3653403
>le CV is bad meme

>>3654052
That's the PC version. Why would you emulate when the PC version of RE3 is (one of the) best and works perfectly even on modern hardware?

>>3654089
Is it the semi remastered pc version of BH3? Last time I checked it had some issues on 64bit hardware and wasn't fully translated.

RE2 is the weakest of the classic RE's

fight me

>>3652247
>>3652754
Water puzzle fucked me up so hard as a kid.
I quit the game and only returned 3 months later after i finished RE1. I literally jumped in joy after solving it.

>>3654148
I agree but i did enjoy A/B scenarios. I find it too straightfoward with the weakest enemies and bosses.

>>3654119
No, it's the PC version. The game was never remastered, just ported to other systems.

>>3654182
But the original, or the improved one from SourceNext released for Japan only in 2006?

>>3654182
It was back in 2006. The sourcenext version is consider an improvement over the original 2000 version. Hence been called "remastered" by some.
>>3654189
It's the Sourcenext 2006 version, you can tell that by its models. They're clearer compared to the classic ones.

>>3654263
>you can tell that by its models

Also by the fact that IT FUCKING WORKS

the original PC port was a piece of shit even back then

>>3652504
you right

>playing RE2 for the first time
>playing Claire
>boss (Tyrant?) on the elevator as you escape the lab.
>saved up maybe 2 dozen grenades
>unload in his face
>transforms
>out of ammo
I've been stuck for months. He's so fast that I can't seem to run from him long enough to see if maybe you just have to survive.

Send help.

>>3655105

You have to kill him. Bring more ammo next time

>>3655105

what kind of grenades. It sounds like you're missing a lot

>>3655105
>boss (Tyrant?) on the elevator as you escape the lab.
>>3655105
>stuck for months
>>3655105
>Send help.

only harekiri can restore the honor of your family

og resident evil 1 had the best atmosphere, and 2 will forever hold the title of perfect sequel. but code veronica has to be my favorite of the whole series.

>>3651527
>magic teleporting kike with a shit accent

Are we talking bout the merchant? His LONDON accent was ok.

>>3653517
Christ. This is gonna sound like its a shit argument im sure but, when i play my PS1 versions of RE1-3 because the res is not so good, it all looks fine.

When character models are this hi res, but the backrounds are super obviously pixels, surley it just looks like a character model on jpeg?

On console, i am able to suspend my disbelief, for RE1-3 and REmake and Zero. But i bet its actually a double edged sword for PC users.

Am i wrong about this though?

>>3656059
The pixelation could be handled better but other than that most of the time I've played high-res versions they look fine imho but it's not the first time I've seen the complaint you've made.

>>3656059
The cool thing about the highres backgrounds is that you see more details. It's very obvious in RE3 especially because a lot of times, the dev put writing or stuff just to make it look detailed, but the text doesn't make any sense, it's just that you couldn't make it out in the PS1 version but you can on PC. This being said, there is also some cool details.

>>3656059
Yeah that hi res doesn't look good there IMO. Most PC games, however, let you choose the resolution to use, so this doesn't have to happen. Here's the original PC port running at 640*480, I would assume the source-next version has the option as well since it's supposedly the better version.

>>3650661
worst re title you posted there. a shame

>>3656059
Yeah I agree that that hi res doesn't look good there. Most PC games, however, let you choose the resolution to use, so this doesn't have to happen. Here's the original PC port running at 640*480, I would assume the source-next version has the option as well since it's supposedly the better version.

>>3650661
Does anyone knows how come a sourcenext version of RE1 never got released? It's a shame really, the RE1 was and still is highly problematic to run.

I remember seeing an image with comparison of different RE versions. I think I've lost it. Does anyone have it?

Where the hell can I find a proper version of RE2 and 3 SourceNext translation? Without untranslated stuff and everything.

>>3653321

there are a lot impaled? i missed that, where is it?

>>3658175
Probably means at the bottom of Salazar's pit. I always assumed they were just random cultists

>>3657689
Translation patches for SN versions are pieces of shit. Don't listen to faggots, grab GC versions and emulate.

>>3651527
>no puzzles
You didn't play the game.

Also RE2 is still best RE. I've come to appreciate 3, though. And Mercenaries is fun as shit.

>>3659767
GC is best if you need it in English.

Sourcenext is best if you can read moon or know your way around the games well enough to make it without reading.

Just whatever you do, don't play the originals unless you want to see what's up. I played RE3 GC for the first time 2 months ago, and I cannot go back to pig disgusting 240p.

>>3659854
Speaking of GC versions, is there a mod that replaces RE2 backgrounds with Win 480p versions?

>>3652223

>Thinking resident evil doesn't have a miles better atmosphere of tension of helplessness than 2 or 3 which have ammo and herbs everywhere

good one m8

>>3659852
you're right, I dropped it during the castle segment because I thought it was shit
but I don't remember any puzzles
maybe forcing the hunter rip off to hit those two bells counts as a puzzle

>>3660380

Man I sure do feel the tension in this brightly lit mansion while listening to hilarious voice acting and effortlessly running past enemies with terrible AI. I'm really feeling the heat! Somebody save me I feel so helpless!

Only played 1 and 4. 1 is WAY scarier, probably due to controls/music. But 4 is just more fun, keeps you moving and feeling like a badass

>>3659852
>>3660452
RE4 has like 3-4 puzzles in the entire game, for 10+hours of gameplay, half of which are non mondatory and for bonus stuff. It's nothing like the originals.

Any reason to choose original RE1 over REmake for a first playthrough?

>>3662389

It being a completely different game springs to mind

>>3662389
Many.

- Completely different feel and experience
- REmake is better appreciated if you've played the original, because it plays on your experience and expectations of the original, and it also expands on it
- Historical value

>>3662390
>completely different game
Nigga what? It's exactly the same.

>>3662389
I've played both and no, not really. You'd be just fine if you only played REmake.

>>3662413
>It's exactly the same.

>>3662413
>Nigga what? It's exactly the same.

Open your anus, bitch, cuz im cummin'!

>>3662389
>tfw you want to play RE1 when you're playing REmake.

REmake is superior though.

>>3655105
You're stuck in Birkin IV i think.

Do you not have any other guns? Bring your pistols if you have too.
Since it's your first time i'm sure you grabbed the optional Machine Gun in the RPD.

My honest suggestion is to just stand still and shoot him, RE2 bosses are weak and have low health.

Claire also can get a Sparkgun before the Elevator to the lab, if you have a save file before Birking 2 i suggest you load it.

>>3662389

No. Honestly, other than minute differences in story and gameplay, its the same experience only better. The only people who say the original is worth playing over the remake are nostalgiafags who cant see the original for how laughable it really is. Only play the original if you want to cringe at a poorly aged game. Even then you're better off looking it up on youtube.

>>3662389
Hell, there's no reason to touch the PS1 versions of 1, 2, and 3 if you own either the GameCube or Dreamcast versions of whatever is applicable.

>>3663006
What are you even doing on this board?

>>3663006

The REmake is very good but pretty much is catered to joyless cunts like this faggot here

>>3663029
>>3663063

And here comes the butthurt from fanboys that cant handle the truth

>>3663063
>The REmake is very good but pretty much is catered to joyless cunts like this faggot here

REmake is actually a love letter to people who have played RE1, which is part of the reason people recommend playing it.

You can knock out both titles in about 10 hours total, roughly 5 hours for each game. If you have the time to shitpost on 4chan, you have the time to play both.

>>3663661
>REmake is actually a love letter to people who have played RE1, which is part of the reason people recommend playing it.

You don't remove the iconic ham if you're a love letter.

I don't mean to hijack this thread, but I thought there were so many RE threads that I didn't want to post a new one just to ask a question. I've been itching to replay pretty much all of the RE games for the first time since I was very young (I grew up with the series and never replayed any of them, starting with 1 in 98 when i was 5 and ending with RE5 which just didn't click with me when it came out).

What are the best versions of each these days? I'm interested in playing both the original and the REmake of the first one for the nostalgia, so this includes what the best version of the OG RE is.

4 > 2 > REmake > CV:X > 3 > 1 > 0 > 5 > 6

>>3663729
Some of us care more about iconic gameplay than stupid memes.

>>3664193
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>>3664193
>>3664197

>Meme

Oh fuck off, you said it was a love letter but it removed part of what made the series stand out to appeal to SRS BUSINESS fuck wads like you. Not every thing's a meme.

>>3664201
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>>3664201
>Not every thing's a meme.
Resident Evil's whack-ass dialogue is literally a meme.

Master of Unlocking, Jill Sandwich, and all of the bad dialogue are literal memes. Just because you don't like it doesn't mean it's not a meme. Meme is a neutral descriptor.

I don't care about the games being serious business. I didn't even complain about the dialogue in RE1. I actually like it. My point is that the gameplay is more important than having a 40 year old man awkwardly read a "Jill Sandwich" line.

>>3664072
GameCube versions of all games.
For 1 you can play DualShock edition with soundtrack fix and uncensored intro. Play PC version of Gamecube remake, it's a good port, same with 0. You can also emulate DS version afterwards for Rebirth mode.
For replaying, Japanese PC re-releases of 2 and 3 are pretty good, but translation patches are not flawless, so it's not good for the first time.
PC version of 4 is good, but only new re-release on Steam.
You can also play Biohazard Outbreak in co-op now, using PS2 emulator and google magic.

>>3664072
RE1 doesn't have an ultimate version, they all have pros&cons. Personally I'm all for the Saturn version.

For RE2 and 3, PC or Dreamcast. Highest background resolution, seemless loading times, most bonuses.

CV you don't play to play.

For REmake and 0 there is no reason not to play the HD remasters, as long as you play those in 4/3 and with the original controls.

>>3664406
>For RE2 and 3, PC or Dreamcast. Highest background resolution, seemless loading times, most bonuses.

Not a big deal but I remember seeing a thread on a forum detailing differences between versions and IIRC RE2 DC has the wrong music or no BGM at all in a couple spots.

What gives

>>3664406
>Personally I'm all for the Saturn version.
Considering that Saturn version doesn't have transparency and has worse textures at times, it looks uglier than ps1 version.

>>3664072
Putting PC to the side, I have the following suggestions:

0: GameCube or Wii, they are virtually identical.

1: Director's Cut (non Dual Shock) on PSX.
Dual Shock edition for a novelty only.

REmake: GameCube or Wii they are virtually identical.

2: Dreamcast. Pretty much the same as GameCube but has better FMVs. N64 version is a reasonable alternative as it has unique extras.

3: GameCube. Has better FMVs and cleaner looking 3D

CV: GameCube, it's the PS2 version without the jaggies.

>>3664603
>0: GameCube or Wii, they are virtually identical.
>REmake: GameCube or Wii they are virtually identical.
GameCube is 480i only and GameCube controllers. Wii is 480i or 480p with Wii Remote or GameCube controllers.

>>3664619
Is there really a noticable diff between 480i and 480p?

>>3664619
You could probably force the Gamecube version into 480p with homebrew

>>3664630
You can, and it runs flawlessly.

>>3664427
>transparency

I love about "transparency" becomes such a supposedly meaningfull arguement every type the Saturn ports of RE1 and SOTN are brought up.
For one thing, transparency is a rare occasion, and the Saturn versions way of coming over it work just fine.

There are much more important things, like audio quality, background quality, extra content, but for some reasons this always come after "transparency" for people who want to "objectively state with facts that the Saturn versions are worse".

Nothing personal against you, but years after "transparency transparency transparency transparency" just ended triggering me.

>>3666346
Fair enough, transparency is a rare thing in RE1.
So, about background quality, it looks noticeably worse on Saturn.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hcwhE4-UZ8I

>>3651470
RE4 is the best, it's not even close.

In fact, RE4 is in the running as the GOAT, Ocarina be damned.

>>3666352
>video for console comparison
>uses emulation

>>3666375
Running RE1 on an old CRT won't make Saturn port better looking than PS1 version.

>>3666376
I dont care about that, just like they dont care to make a proper console comparison.

3 - You just cant go wrong with Nemmie, shares my all time fav ps1 title with MGS.
Perfect combination of scary, action and difficulty for my taste (the first few playthroughs)
Only complaint is it should have had a Nightmare mode. That whould have been ridiculously awsome.

1 - Even tho the voice acting is hysterical, there is some magic going on here. The atmosphere is amazing and the plot for the scenario is simple, as it should be.

C:V - I want to love this, but the developers must have been burnt out on crack when they made it. The story and dialog is completely garbage, they're retcon'ing and why the fuck all the matrix shit. I love the gameplay tho, great music and nice graphics. Torn on if I feel this is a part of the series, really.

2 - This I didn't like. There are some great things about it, like the music, town and the station. But it doesn't hold up to me.

First off, I dont like the characters. They're so over the top, and I didnt think the little girl stuff was believable.
"Mr X" is so fucking boring, he just walks after you until the end.
The whole G-virus thing is also too ridiculous also, and the lab is waaay to grand.

But my biggest complain is how fucking easy it is. There is no struggles and you get rained down with health and ammo. I didn't even die fucking ONCE on first replay 10-15 years after. (played it a single time as a kid in 98)

These are the ones I consider Resident Evil, won't comment on the rest.

Per NESfag's advice some time ago tho, I will have to give RE2 Nightmare a go on dreamcast whenever I get a hold of one.

>>3666352
It's largely known that backgrounds generally look better in the Saturn version. The 3D models are more blocky, even then some people argue they look better that way.

>>3666465
>The 3D models are more blocky, even then some people argue they look better that way.

This, plus there's that zombie model that's a lot less blurry and more defined in the SS version (white shirt with blood stains).

>>3666436
>Only complaint is it should have had a Nightmare mode. That whould have been ridiculously awsome.

a true hard mode with no bullet tool would've been enough
maybe there's a patch out there

>>3666615
>maybe there's a patch out there

Sadly not. Apparently RE3 is the hardest to mod to having the most semi-random factors and the most factors that change depending on player's actions.

This is also why RE2 is the most modded, because everything is linear and nothing ever changes within a scenario.

I'd love a true hard mode for RE3, I did some challenges runs myself, but it's not quite the same as having RE2 Nightmare mode in which each zombie die from a random number of bullet (between 1 and 35) and in which lickers can do a two hits combo that kills you in one hit.

>>3653339
>I wish re4 was a new IP or a spin off.
Wasn't the 'original' concept for RE4 turned into Devil May Cry?

>>3666465
>It's largely known that backgrounds generally look better in the Saturn version

Not true at all. Only thing that is different is a slight color temperature rebalance. You could probably switch between the two types by adjusting the settings on your TV

>>3666684
that's correct

>>3666675
interesting
well I guess I can always do a no reloading tool run

>>3663006


To be fair, the laughable cheese its self is a reason to choose the original over the remake.

The only other acceptable one being done with Crimson Heads' bullshit.

>best RE thread

>no one choosing Resident Evil 1

>no one choosing Sweet Home

You fucks.

Pic related.

>>3662389
I whould play the original all day despite the poor graphics and voice acting. The original feels MUCH more in line with 2 and 3.

To me the changes + retcon in REmake feels like they were just setting up for more future bullshit with wesker and the other things that really should have been its own game series.

Because the series ended with 3. it was litterally 1 2 and 3. But when you play the REmake, this changes.. Which worries me about the REmake2, they'll probably throw in shit from 4, 5, 6 and 7 to fit their retarded new "ideas" better.

I hope they NEVER touch Resident Evil 3.

>>3662389
only if you don't feel like dealing with crimson heads

>>3667406
When I play REmake, I think of what you're saying. And actually, I think Mikami did everything he could to preserve his baby.

For instance, the connections to RE0. RE0 came out after REmake, yes, but it was in development WAY before REmake even started. So they knew all about it at that point. In 0, Rebecca's personality is completely different; but in REmake, she said true to the original.

Furthermore, the changes made to fit RE0 with REmake are as simple as possible. IIRC it's just a single file to read which even aknowledges it. There could be a lot more about the team, about Rebecca saying what she was up to, about Wesker's actions, etc

As for Wesker's death, it's all very in line with the original too as far as I recall.

I feel like Mikami did everything in his power to keep his vision and the original intact; he connected via one readable file that player may even miss, to make Capcom content, because he had to.

>>3667146
>>no one choosing Resident Evil 1
who wants to play a turd that's aged like shit with awful tank controls, horrid voice acting, like 3 guns, fmvs with shit actors that only has 2 hours worth of gameplay.

you're the one who should be considering suicide for having such shit taste, faggot

>>3667468
Part of the charm is that it feels like a cheese B film, you are the fucking retard and there is nothing wrong with preferring RE1, its the best one by far.

RE2 has shitty easy puzzles and RE3 is too action oriented.

>>3667502
>muh B movie!

literally the only defense re 1 fags can muster for their shit game. beyond pathetic. kys asap please

>>3667512
Also its the only game with challenging puzzles as I stated before, and the only one that is challenging survival horror game, you actually have to take care of your ammo.

In RE2 its literally impossible to run out of ammo unless you waste it on purpose.

And RE3 its an action game.

>>3667452
>As for Wesker's death

SPOILERS ASSHOLE

>>3667523

Tbh the only challenging puzzles i can think of from the whole series are found in 3

>>3667452
>I feel like Mikami did everything in his power to keep his vision and the original intact

That may be, but I still dont feel its anything like the original game. The crimson masks and the troll girl from 1965 just completely takes it away from being believable as the same "universe". I did like it tho, got a great vibe, just didn't fell Resident Evil to me.. On top of this the Wesker deal.

So I guess my point is,
if your'e new to the RE games, you should play the original 3 games first (Resident Evil 1, 2, 3) if you want the story as they first told it..
(which to me is far superior to the "alternate line" as in REmake, Zero, CV, 4, 5, 6 etc).

If you want a more modern take on it or whatever I should call it, start with Zero or REmake.

the best RE is RE3 only after having played and relayed the 1st two.

only thus can one appreciate what was achieved with it.

>>3667910
Also a side note here, by modern you also get the luggage of that gaming has changed the last 15 years. Just be aware.

>pls holds my hand
>michael bay

is there a way to play as nemesis?

>>3667502
>RE2 has shitty easy puzzles
which re1 puzzle is hard

>>3668080
Not him, but I whouldn't say hard, they require you to at least think.
The chemicals comes to mind, the pictures in the crow room, and wasn't there some statue puzzle or something you had to push around the floor?

>>3667930
"Her skin nothing short of perfection."

>>3667986
You can swap models but you retain Jill's moves and everything, looks glitchy as fuck iirc.

>>3667930
I swear I don't know why I saved pic related.

>>3667910
I don't have a problem with the added stuff like the masks and Lisa. It is true that it gives a horror vibe that is different than the original, with a bigger accent on disturbing material. I think the whole thing serves two purposes, first giving higher horror stakes, as the horror standard evolves with time, and also because people already knew the original by definition, you gotta make things different by definition to keep it horrifying (horror stops being horrible when you're used to it). Secondly, it also serves to create a more believable base for the mansion ever existing. That's something they didn't think would be needed with the original, but with time they realize some people thought the mansion itself was kind of silly and therefore it needed some kind of deeper explanation, so having crazy people doing crazy things help.

>>3667938
I hope you don't mean REmke and 0 for this.

>>3668151
>re1fags think moving two statues to cover up gas vents is good puzzle design

rofl

>>3666684
i think they reused some assets, but re4 was never going to be like what devil may cry turned into.

>>3653358
CV was downright terrible. if you liked 1 and 2 i don't see why you wouldn't have liked 3

>>3653226
things that are bad on purpose are cringeworthy, like your post

>>3654081
CV was always bad. CV being good is a meme that didn't exist until a couple years ago

>>3654148
why fight you? life has already defeated you if you don't love re2

>>3655347
shit graphics, terrible story, weak combat. what is the appeal of code veronica?

>>3662389
none whatsoever. the original has aged very poorly. the remake has everything good from the original while fixing its problems and adding tons of cool new stuff.

>>3664619
so... virtually identical

>>3664076
not the worst taste, but not good either

>>3664625
no

>>3667146
>i made a reference to a slightly obscure nes game. Will they finally accept me?

>>3667605
i had fun with this one

>>3668482
lol troll harder, the remake doesn't even have the jill sandwich line

>>3668496
>>3667605
Gaiden had some good ideas but terrible execution.

>that entire shooting mechanic, made even worse against bosses
I see no reason why they even went with that and not have top down shooting.

>music that changes depending on how near you are to enemies
Dynamic music can be good, but the execution is just terrible here, it's downright annoying

>important items that magically appear in rooms you have already visited
>they can't even be seen on screen and you have to press the action key to find them
Holy shit.

This being said it had interesting setting, and amazing graphics. Best shading I've ever seen in a GBC game.

>>3668491
Most fans of RE know that it was heavily inspired by Sweet Home.

>>3668552
RE started off as a "spiritual successor", but only the base idea of making a horror game taking place in a mansion remained. That and the door transitions. Can't really call that "heavily inspired".

>>3668552
>heavily
they took the door opening animation whoopee
RE was inspred way more by aitd

In my early playthroughs I never even knew the ammo mixer 'leveled up' at mixing each ammo type. Now it's like my favourite element of the game and I wish it were in others.

>>3668473
>bad on purpose

Nowhere did I mention or imply that it had to be bad on purpose. The RE1 example I used remains on point while your shitty reading comprehension and autismo-tier attempt at starting shit are, ironically, what's really cringeworthy.

>>3668569
>>3668597
The limited inventory and each character having a special item were also taken from Sweet Home. Also the title Resident Evil might have come from it, although that may have just been made up by the translator.

Really though Capcom just didn't want to admit that they were influenced by AitD. Shinji Mikami only admitted it after he left Capcom.

>>3650661
Nigga dat ain da bes' reseva

Way ya heh at???

Sweet Home had the exact same setting more or less too and was a Capcom game. Are people actually pretending it didn't influence RE?

>>3651470
>So linear
>So easy
>Boss battles are "hit the weak spot 3 times"
>Half the game is awful quicktime events
>Quarter of the game is escort missions
Why is it still so good?

>>3672571
>Why is it still so good?
babby's first re

>>3672571
>All the RE games are pretty linear really. RE4 has some non-linear options such as either fighting the second El Gigante or the Chainsaw Sisters and there are secret areas you can visit all throughout chapters to get treasure, as well as extra stuff like Separate Ways, Secret Agent Ada, Mercenaries, etc. Playing New Game+ also makes it really satisfying and there are numerous ways to defeat several bosses
>Play it on professional (and without Ashley's armour) and it's actually really challenging. Also shit like the Regenerators and numerous bosses like Verdugo can be a bitch if you don't know what you're doing. Hell the parts where you get shot at with a machine gun I also remember being challenging
>Le QTEs are awful meme. Tell me the Krauser shit wasn't hype
>Ashley is fucking hot so it's fine and you can have her stay behind (occassionally even do things like hide in dumpsters) and you get other partners like Luis and Mike for certain parts who are more useful than Ashley
These flaws are kind of generalized and perhaps exaggerated DESU

>>3672607
I beat RE1-3 and CVX before 4 and I still find 4 to be a masterpiece and easily the best in the series

>>3672616
>I beat RE1-3 and CVX before 4 and I still find 4 to be a masterpiece and easily the best in the series

"How would you like your taste in RE games, sir?"
"JUST FUCK MY SHIT UP, PHAM."

>>3672623
Are you talking about yourself again, dude? That's not healthy

>>3672612
>chapters

>>3672536
>Are people actually pretending it didn't influence RE?

Nobody's pretending that. But people exagerate its influence, and I've seen people back up this kind of shit with "proof" such as an "interview where it says RE was a remake of Sweet Home" even though all it said is that they were asked to make a spiritual successor.

RE1 was more inspired by AITD than Sweet Home.

I honestly don't know where all the Sweet Home chills come from. I'm not sure if it's all the [buzzword] trying to sound [buzzword] by namedropping a Famicom game, but Sweet Home's legacy is way too overated, such as claiming it was "the first survival horror game", even though it's barely even survival horror, and even though Zombi came years out before and was a lot more survival oriented, or claiming it had a immense impact on RE1.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0kcF7E69C6Q

>>3675207
>mfw this shit started playing and I realized that I used my last CD-R to burn this ISO instead of usual version by mistake

>>3651452
Good pic, derpiest shot of Jill in the game.

The original RE games are great but I think the mark of a mature critic is being able to recognize faults in things you love. RE1 aged terribly and isnt that great of a game. It was remade for a reason. The fans were asking for a remake for years. We still love it, we just acknowledge it for what it is. All these people defending RE1 need to pull their head out of their ass and realize their defense of the game boils down to

>Its only pretending to be retarded!

No its not. They were trying to make a legit horror game. They succeeded by some people's standards in 1997 but failed by today's. Just get over it.

>>3668476
CV was always good. CV being bad is a meme that didn't exist until a couple years ago

>>3675553
> It was remade for a reason

This is faulty reasoning

Many fantastic things are remade (especially now in the age of remakes), and it's not because of the flaws.

>>3675605
His point stands in the case of RE1, Capcom took an eternity to move on to 2, which was great even back and way better produced than 1.

That RE1 received a remake, and for more than 10 years still the only to date to be out, shows that pretty much.

>>3675548
>derpiest

you dont know shit. out.

>>3675635
No you idiot, Capcom's plan was to make remakes of 2 and 3 for the GameCube, but because the GC was a failure and REmake didn't leave much profit, they backed off and re-released the original games instead (besides they wanted to focus on RE4)

>>3675971
>No you idiot

Sure kid, sure...

>>3676056
>Sure kid, sure...
>kid

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Resident_Evil_2#Legacy

>>3676078
>linking to shitty wikipedia that cites a source in japanese means I'm right

If only that were true, kiddo, if only...

>>3675931
Then post a derpier one, hotshot :^)

>>3650661
Bunper cars

>>3675553
>but failed by today's
What? Do you even understand what you've just said with this statement?

>>3654182
The GameCube version has slightly enhanced graphics that for me make a big difference.

It looks superb on my BVM I'd post pics but am too lazy.

>>3668569
>>3668597
>>3669454
The series is known as Biohazard in Japan. They went with Resident Evil abroad because there is a band who copyrighted the name Biohazard and were likely to sue. If you think that the law is stupid with copyrighted names, keep in mind "Detective Conan" was marketed here as "Case Closed" just after the "Conan the Barbarian" state, gave them shit about Conan being on their title. The translators who hacked Sweet Home just added that as a nod / joke to the players.

Also Resident Evil was not just spiritual to Sweet Home, the game itself started as a 3D remake with Sweet Home until Capcom chose to make it its own thing. Tokuro Fujiwara worked on both games, he had as much input as Shinji Mikami.

http://www.glitterberri.com/developer-interviews/tokuro-fujiwara/

>Resident Evil was based on Sweet Home, was it not?

>Yeah. Once the Playstation was released, conversation turned towards the idea of launching an original franchise. The basic premise was that I’d be able to do the things that I wasn’t able to include in Sweet Home. It was mainly on the graphics front that my frustration had been building up. I was also confident that horror games could become a genre in themselves.

This post will get buried, but for what its worth heres my feelings about resi.

Probably my favourite series.
resi 1 was one of the first games i played on ps1. i found it too hard back in the day, the furthest i made it was back to the mansion once hunters had arrived. by this point i'd used all my ink ribbons, and i just gave up. i came back to it years later and now i adore it. great level of challenge, great atmosphere, music, everything really.

resi 2 is equally awesome. maybe a bit too much ammo, zombie dodging is easy to do in most rooms, and bosses are pretty easy. but again, great atmosphere, environments, everything.

resi 3 i really love. nemesis scared me when i was younger, i never knew when he'd appear. i can kill him everytime now, tho i still have problems with the 1st fight (i never really understood how dodging worked).
maybe a bit too much ammo. if your clever, and go back to the shutter which needs the crank, and then back to the 1st room, u are sorted for rest of the game.
i always wind up having far too many magnum bullets at the end, and just start using it on zombies.

resi survivor actually had a good atmosphere, was pretty creepy. but the gameplay really stank, and the characters were funny.

CV was great in my opinion, gameplay wise. storywise, the characters were pretty awful, and i feel everything goes downhill once u reach the artic.

resi 4 was amazing at the time. i remember feeling by the end of it, "wow this is a really long game, and theres so many different areas/bosses/guns". really liked that game, but still prefer classic resi.

5,6 i never played. they looked stupid. i hated how people were now transforming into creatures 100 times their size. and i was so fed up with wesker. hes not a good villain imo.

umbrella chronicles 1, worth playing but very repetitive, and kindve boring. never played no.2

7 is looking interesting. i'm liking the emphasis on puzzles, cud be gd.

tldr:
1>2>3>4>cv

I've only ever played the Remake. I've noticed there's a bit of disagreement about the differences between the two versions - if the thread lives for a little longer, would anyone mind explaining what some of the differences are that they have found between 1 and the Remake?

>>3677087

That RE1 isnt scary or intense at all by todays standards? Which is obviously true.

>>3677797
>umbrella chronicles 1, worth playing but very repetitive, and kindve boring. never played no.2
2 is a slight improvement. I don't recommend either of them though

>>3675543

>>3677797
> tho i still have problems with the 1st fight (i never really understood how dodging worked).

That one is the hardest of the game because of the lack of supplies. All you have is the basic handgun and the shotgun. The shotgun is useless against him: its downtime is too huge, you're sure to get hit before you can move again after a shot.

So arm yourself with the handgun and with patience. You need to stay at a middle range distance, far enough that he can't hit you, but not far enough that it will make him rush towards you. So, be at that distance, shoot 1-3 bullets, and run a bit to recover the lost distance between him and you. Repeat. If you do it right, he'll NEVER rush towards you.
If he does, avoid him by turning in the direction of the arm he doesn't use to attack.
You don't need to use the dodge mechanic at all. People on youtube just do it for show, but this is more reliable.

>>3679009
Shotgun is definitely doable if you fire only one shot

>>3679023
He'll grab you more often than not. And if you're far away you're not getting the most out of the shotgun shells.

Would rather be at a distance and fire 2-3 shots with the handgun a bunch of times and then use the shotgun when he's down, real close for maximum damage.

How many versions of RE1 are there and what are the differences between them?

>>3659859
http://forums.dolphin-emu.org/Thread-resident-evil-2-high-res-ui-textures-v2-2-ghae08

>>3679074
I did it the other week with shotgun, never grabbed me once. You have to be really careful with judging distance and trying to avoid his grabbing arm.

>>3679080
It's just a UI mod, it doesn't change backgrounds.

>>3664406
>RE1 doesn't have an ultimate version, they all have pros&cons.

http://www.the-horror.com/forums/showthread.php?10318-RELEASE-PS1-Resident-Evil-Ultimate-Directors-Cut-Dual-Shock-MOD

>Capcom never made RE2: Deadly Silence

>>3679080
>that Darkside Chronicles photo of Claire

>>3679084
His new deranged mode is terrible. Also still doesn't have the Saturn bonuses.

>>3679078
off the top of my head:

-original with no autoaim, released for Playstation in the long box and later in a jewel case
-Director's cut with RE2 demo
-Director's cut Dual Shock edition, without the RE2 demo and in greatest hits packaging
-PC version of Director's Cut, iirc no differences from the Playstation version of REDC
-Saturn version with a battle mode iirc
-REmake for Gamecube
-REmake for Wii
-Steam version of REmake

>>3679814
also the Nintendo DS version

The Japanese versions of 1 and 2 are infinitely easier than their American counterparts. Is this the case too with RE3?

>>3680041
JP RE3 Heavy Mode is easier than US Hard Mode, though I dont know the specifics

>>3676082
is better than speculating with no kind of source at all, faggot

>>3679084
I remember entering a certain door in this version somehow led me to a completely different place than where it was supposed to go

>>3680041
>>3680060
IIRC Jill has more HP and some enemies like Nemesis have less. There isn't as much difference as in RE2/BH2 but it is easier.

>>3680280
That's his "re-imaged" game, a romhack basically. You don't have to play and you can play the original; but yeah it's pretty bad. The game had the skills and means to do an entire new RE1 route with different item/enemy placement etc; but he blew it by only doing senseless shit that's pure trial&error with HEAVY punishment. I think you can even randomly fuck yourself over

>go through door 1 out of 3 available
>get teleported somewhere else
>door you just went through is now locked so you can't go back
>again you have choice between several doors
>repeat

It's awful. I was excited for this mod desu and very disappointed. Haven't tried his new battle mode though.

>>3651461
Fuck yes. I remember getting this when I got my dreamcast. This was back when RE was still all about classic shambling zombies.

Either this or RE2, they're both really great.

>>Those feels of when you're a kid and wake up knowing you get to spend the whole day with a game you're love'n

>>3682621
nice feels indeed.

but cmon, cv is objectively wrong and a piece of shit. i think a monkey would have written a better story. cause the gameplay itself might not be bad, the 3d backgrounds etc, but that fucking story fucks it up... and playing some zombie-shooting game on a vacuum feels funny.

inb4 >playing for the story