/vr/ - Retro Games

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>>3670605

All jrpgs released for snes in NA have aged well, most of those games got ports on newer systems.

Chrono Trigger
Earthbound
Breath of Fire 1+2
Lufia 1+2
Final Fantasy IV-VI
Secret of Mana
Secret of Evermore

>>3670695
I do love Chrono Trigger, has not aged a day since I remembered.

>>3670709

What are you talking about? CT looks great and its got a DS port.

Games don't age.

Ikaruga

Definitely Treasure's games.

Normies don't really know about them, IGN praising Ikaruga happened like 15 years ago.
And elitist tryhard posers on /vr/ hate them because god knows why. They are severely underrated.
And their games are still pretty damn good to play nowadays.

Probably their most underrated game is Bangai-O.

>>3670789
Right on, man. I love Stretch Panic.

>>3670840

Not Retro.

>>3670789
>Bangai-O
N64 or Dreamcast?

Just no OP, take your funnies to another board ok

>>3670695
>>3670709
Games dont age you stupid fucks

>>3670892
Of course they do, you fucking memer. Everything ages.

>>3670918
No they dont you are the memer here.

>>3670852
DC version has better game balance, improved graphics and sound, more content, skippable cutscenes and superior boss fights.

>>3670852

Both.

>>3671298
>better game balance

How so? It's actually more broken because they throw HP refill at you everytime you kill enemies. DC version is great but fairly easier. It's recommended to start with the DC version, and play N64 one for a better challenge.

>>3670892
they do, and so do their chips and boards. They degrade over time.

>>3671312
N64 version is more broken due to the shop based on your combos where you can upgrade your shot power and penetration, refill your HP and gain invincibility for a short duration. Also on Dreamcast you can only hold 5 explosions instead of 10 in reserve, the missiles in a super shot are based on how much stuff is near you instead of a fixed amount, and you can't charge up an explosion anymore for extra damage potential. The DC game rewards you by using your bombs intelligently instead of going around collecting oranges. Anyway N64 version is only harder if you're bad at combos or refuse to upgrade the mech (hence worse balance; note that harder != better).

>>3671390

I guess we'll have to agree to disagree, I don't think having to use combos to upgrade or refill HP is more broken than randomly getting HP refills all the time, and you don't even need to upgrade your shots on DC version, you're at max from the beginning.

>note that harder != better

I didn't say one is better than the other, I find both versions worth playing, just the DC one is better for someone who never played the game, N64 version offers more challenge for someone who has already cleared the DC game.

Also you're talking about shots, but the shots are very different in both versions. Mami's shots are always weaker on N64 version, but on DC version both Riki and Mami shots deal the same amount of damage.

>>3671417
>>3671390

You guys already had this discussion before

>>/vr/thread/S3365595#p3365605

>>3671426

>>3671390
>Also on Dreamcast you can only hold 5 explosions instead of 10 in reserve

Yeah but in N64 you need to collect fruit to build the missile meter. You hardly can collect 10 bars all the time, in later later levels especially where things get more strategic instead of shooting away.

>The DC game rewards you by using your bombs intelligently instead of going around collecting oranges

it's the other way around, since you need to collect fruit to charge the super, that means you'll be short of it and can't use it all the time.
On DC version you have 5 supers right out the bat and you can use it anytime. Most of the time you don't really need more than 1 or 2.
On N64 version you need to save supers for bosses, not really a thought while playing DC.

Why fight over the N64 and DC when Missile Fury is the version with the greatest difficulty and gameplay?

>>3671689

Because I don't own an Xbox!

I'm still confused as to what Missile Fury is though. I saw footage of it and seemed more like a new entry in the series rather than a remake.
Granted the differences between N64 and DC were a lot but you could tell it was still the same game, MF seems like a completely different game.

>>3670657
Talk about fucking brutal deaths.

>>3671705
>Because I don't own an Xbox!
Shiiiiiiiiiiet.

Sounds like you need to get a 360 for them definitive versions of RSG and GH.

>>3670605

definitely not earthbound. It's pretty mediocre.

>>3672054
The battles in most Mother Games are superfluous. They don't usually add anything to the game except whackiness. Most of the Mother games could be books.

>>3672054
>>3672064

Mother is just Dragon Quest with 8 direction movement instead of 4, PSI instead of spells, and a modern setting instead of medieval fantasy.
Mother 2 is the same but with enemies on the map field like Chrono Trigger instead of random encounters.

Every time someone says Mother games are shit, you're technically saying Dragon Quest and a large number of similar JRPGs are shit, which is an opinion but not a popular one.

>>3672054
Too deep for you

>>3672064
You are just retarded

>>3672096
nothing deep about it, but it's become one of those mediocre games hipsters gravitate to because it's got a pedigree now. Not a game which does anything interesting with its game play.

>>3672132

>Earthbound
>hipster

Why should I believe Earthbound fans are the hipsters and not the special snowflake anti-EB people?

>Not a game which does anything interesting with its game play.

I thought being able to sneak your enemies from behind/insta-kill them if they're low level and the HP rolling mechanic were interesting additions to an already extremely exploited genre than ultimately took everything from Dragon Quest.

DQ is a series that never really innovated much, and that's precisely why it's loved by lots of fans. Not broken, don't fix it.

>>3672142
an hp rolling mechanic which has pretty much 1 enemy in the entire game that does anything with it.

>>3672197

Which enemy? Attacks from all enemies make your HP roll. It's how your HP decreases (or increases if you use replenish items/healing PSI).
Anyway, again, those were small bits of unique feats the game had, but it didn't really need to deviate much from the DQ formula because that's basically what it was meant to be.

>>3672054
The OP is bait you idiot.
>>3672070
This.

Calling EB a DQ clone is complementing it. DQ is one of the few jrpgs never to become insufferable.
>>3672142
>>3672197
EB has a few unique features but as the guy I quoted above said it really was Itoi saying "This DQ gae seems cool, I should try making something like this'. Personally it's my favorite game. Yeah call me ahipster but I genuinely love it. I don't think it's perfect and the fanbase is kinda annoying but I find it the most appealing game in terms of my interest.

Only hipsters hate this game.

>>3672204
Guessing he means the trees.

The HP odometer is definitely deeper then that though. It's not huge but it does lead to some cool situation and a sense of pressure when your character was hit with a mortal blow and your desperately trying to heal them.

>>3672208

The only thing that kills it for me are the loading times.
Random encounters + loading times + long attack animations = bad idea, but it's still a pretty good game otherwise. A shame the remake will be shit because modern Square is shit.

>>3672213

Yeah trees are hardly the only enemies that give you fatal blows. Most end game enemies (like Last Starman and such) can land pretty brutal damage even if you're overleveled.

>>3672218
Those times arent even bad compared to ff9

>>3670605
>underrated
>gem

ball the fuck out

>>3672204
yeah and it's kinda boring. Only challenging part is the last boss. There are better RPGs on the same system to play. Earthbound was just memed into relevance, still have my childhood copy tho.

>>3672851
>memed
You must be 18 or older to post here.

If you don't like EB that's fine but don't sound like a autist and say it was "memed" to relevance.

>>3672934
You do know what a meme is, right?

Wouldn't say it aged well, unless its upscaled to 1080p w/o a texture filter.

The Legend of Dragoon

>>3672851
There are better, and there are worse, EB is fine.
Why do you care about other people though?

>>3672208
Underrated games.
Not games that get their dick sucked dry with a few people standing around saying it sucks.

>>3672943
the graphics may not have aged well, but the prerendered backgrounds are pretty and the battle system is more engaging than 80% of RPGs; new, old, western or eastern
played the game this year for the first time and it was pretty enjoyable

not particularly underrated tho

>>3673092
the overwhelming majority of people cry about ff7 being overrated, it's a pretty solid game tho.

Do you fucks not know what underrated means? At all?

>>3673159
Yeah cunt fuck off
You didnt see the excitement around FF7 remake?

>>3673452
> Hey fellow anons, FF7 was a really good game
> HURR DURR CUNT FUCK OFF DIN U KNO DERE WAS EXCITMNT 4 DA REMKE?? THN U SHOLDU KNOW IT

>>3673494
see
>>3673432

>>3673432
Enlighten us by posting an actual underrated game then.

>>3673716
Something that got poor or relatively poor review scores, didn't sell well, isn't really known (often not even enough to have a cult following)

Not shit like Chrono Trigger and FF6 which are considered masterpieces every retro gamer knows and even some modern gamers

>>3674103
Mr Gimmick is a really fun game but emulating it really hurts the control.

I'd love to get an everdrive or a 300 in 1 cart with it on it.

>>3674180
Same, I owned the game as a kid up in Scandinavia... fuck it's been so long. Emulators are the only way I've been able to play classic games lately, I miss the consoles so much

>>3670892

>music doesn't age you stupid fucks
>movies don't age you stupid fucks

wtf are you talking about??

>>3670605
yuck

>>3674103
Gimmick's pretty overrated now that the speedrunning scene learned of it.

Sonic 1 for the master system. It plays like a "nintendo hard" Sonic game. People just shit on it because Sega can't stop re-releasing the shitty screen crunched Game Gear version instead.

>>3677979
But SMSonic 1 has fairly boring levels.

Sonic 2, on the other hand, was an YUGE improvement.

Why does /vr/ never discuss this hidden gem?