/vr/ - Retro Games

>>3665705

What do you mean by Scrollers?

>>3665707
He's just forcing a new term for a genre of games that already have an established term.

>>3665705
>Treasure

>>3665705
>>3665842

Wow, two reoccurring shitposters in the same thread.

This is better

>>3665705

>>3665705
Belt Scroller? Oh, do you mean parallax pop'n boppers?

>>3666590
>parallax pop'n boppers

But they are called side scrolling beat 'em ups

Because they scroll sideways and you beat "them" (the "other", in a Deleuzian sense) up.

There's no belts involved and calling them belt scrollers could be referring to vertically or horizontally scrolling shooters or platform games too

This is a stupid meme.

(But Guardian Heroes is the best)

>>3665705
GH is significantly different from other games like SoR or FF. All "traditional" games like this bore me senseless, but Guardian Heroes is always fun.

>>3666626
>It's not the term that was common where I grew up so that means no one else ever used it and anyone who says so is spreading memes

http://www.giantbomb.com/belt-scrolling/3015-8588/

Why do you people even argue over semantics? You all know what both terms mean.

>>3666702
It's a meme because, in spite of the majority of the board accepting the term Beat 'em up, you individually create the same thread every month or so over an entire year, with the same name, and the same complaints, yet continue to use the term.

You must know by now it derails the thread before it even begins, what sort of ego do you have that you can continue to bang your head against a wall just to use a term that went out of fashion decades ago?

>>3666720
It's not my thread. There's only one game in this genre I even sort of like >>3666692 and give no shits about what any of you calls them.

I just think taking his bait and squabbling over semantics is pointless. If you like the games and want to talk about them, do so.

>>3666692
>All "traditional" games like this bore me senseless, but Guardian Heroes is always fun.
Same with shmups and pic related for me. Thing is, with Treasure, you're not just playing a game, you're getting an *experience*, something can change the way you look at interactive art.

>>3666893
desperate for (you)'s aren't you

>>3666893
>Treasure shmups

>>3666914

>Replying to your own post

>>3666893
Treasure's hit and miss with me, sometimes I love their games and other times meh. Ikaruga never did a ton for me. Bangai-O is easily top 10 of all time for me though.

this is my fav WAAPFITBM

>>3666893
Best Ikaruga bait so far. Well done.

bump

>>3666720
>You must know by now it derails the thread before it even begins

What you really mean by this is that you will automatically derail a thread if you see someone using the term you don't prefer. It doesn't matter that this board has people from all sorts of different experiences and backgrounds and that they may be used to other terms. It doesn't matter that everyone knows that belt scroller and beat em up refer to the same thing. All that matters is that someone didn't change what they are used to in order to suit you. So in turn you will troll and derail anything you don't like, and feel smugly justified the whole time.

It's pathetic schoolyard bully type behavior and it's rampant on this board. No one here even tries to talk about games anymore.

How's the new River City Ransom remake on 3DS?

Easy Mode: Elbow Strike
Hard Mode: Any other move
Bimmy Must Die Mode: Headbutts only

1cc'd Final Fight a little bit ago. Not sure why /vr/ jacks off all over it. Streets of Rage games are way better.

>>3668665

> No one here even tries to talk about games anymore.

Oh for fuck's sake, that's not even remotely true

>>3666590
do you mean Ribbon Panner?

>>3670589
FF is a lot better than SoR1 and SoR3, SoR2 is aight

Never heard of this genre, but if they are anything like beat'em ups I'm in. Any recommendations for a starter?

>>3670596
He sure as fuck wasn't interested in talking about games.

>>3670589
Because it was the one that set the standards for beat-'em-ups, just like Super Mario Bros. set the standards for platformers.

You can prefer Sonic if you want, but there wouldn't had been any Sonic without Mario.

>>3665705
I think you meant to say strolling donnybrooks OP.

Also would you anons care to talk about the more obscure games in this category. Games like Ninja Kids.

>>3670784
>Any recommendations for a starter?
Pretty much any arcade from Capcom, Punisher isn't too hard so try that.
Guardians/Denjin Makai 2
Streets of Rage 2/3
Ninja Baseball Batman
Also play for the 1cc, otherwise it's trivial to play them if you don't have a goal/challenge.

>>3671000


>>3671000
Aside from killing enemies with jumps, Mario didn't innovate anything relevant for the platform genre.

>>3671291
t. Australia-kun

>>3671309
nice rebuttal faggot

>>3671291

Did any other platform game before Mario use momentum with running like holding the B button?

>>3671324
Pac-Land a whole year before.

>>3671309
Not an argument.

>>3666982
What did he mean by this

>>3671000

But Double Dragon

Anyone know the artist that worked on DnD Tower Of Doom? Also, what's the best way to play and find people online for beat 'em ups? Fightcade?

Appreciate it

>>3671476
>Anyone know the artist that worked on DnD Tower Of Doom?

Wasn't it the guy that formed Vanillaware?

>>3671483
George Kamitani ? The guy who did the art for Dragon's Crown? ok, his style is more cartoon like today than back in the day, ty

>>3671476
>Also, what's the best way to play and find people online for beat 'em ups? Fightcade?
Fightcade is pretty good but the problem is only 2 players support, also there aren't that many beat 'em up players aside from some Cadillacs and Final Fight guys. Aside from that there is MAME Kaillera which works like shit for me sadly, and other chinese FBA servers like gotvg which is pretty good but not many westerners use.

>>3671476
https://www.reddit.com/r/MAMEHub/

>>3671467
Double Dragon = Pac-Land
Final Fight = Super Mario Bros.

Incidentally Double Dragon and Pac-Land were made by different Kishimotos (Yoshihisa and Yoshihiro), but I don't think they're related.

Belt scrollers would be every single side scrolling game, right?

I like Mario on NES.

>>3671945
Where does Ninja Gaiden Arcade fit into the analogy?

>>3671947
>Belt scrollers would be every single side scrolling game, right?
No. Only games that have some z-dimensional depth, where you can circle around enemies, but still scroll forward for the most part.

>>3671947
>>3671961

Is Animaniacs on SNES a belt scroller?

>>3671970
Aye, it be.

>>3666702
>http://www.giantbomb.com/belt-scrolling/3015-8588/
so, by your own reference, the term is only used in Japan, and refers to the game design technique, not the game genre.

The Japanese use all kinds of clunky Engrish terms. that's no reason the rest of the world needs to use them

>>3665705
Well, you got the first word right.

>>3672146
0/10

>tfw versus fighters killed scrolling fighters

>>3671806
>>3671815
cool ty guys

What does /vr/ think of Undercover Cops?

>>3673742
>tfw belt scrollers killed arcade platformers

>>3675658
nawh mang

>>3675706

/vr/ is the only place where ive ever heard the term 'belt scroller'. normal non-autist people call them beat em ups

>>3675745
I'm guessing Iwata was an autist then.

They're actually just called fighting games, but Vs. fighters gained more popularity and stole the genre name from them.

>>3675771
is this a wiki? retarded people write them.

>>3675825
>is this a wiki?
You wish.
http://iwataasks.nintendo.com/interviews/#/wiiu/platinum-games/0/1
>retarded people write them.
It seems you've contributed to many.

>>3675862
>6. Final Fight: A belt-scrolling action game that appeared in arcades in 1989. The Super NES version was released in December 1990.

Iwata said this? Or was it the editor that added it?

>>3675868
I'm guessing it was an editor, since I can't' imagine it would've been brought up in the actual interview. The Iwata Asks interviews tended to be translated rather literally and very rarely did they ever localized JP-specific jargon.

Incidentally this translated interview from Capcom uses the similar belt floor action game.
http://game.capcom.com/cfn/sfv/column/112429

>>3675653

Too undercover, no one's played it

>>3676071
It's probably much more popular that Bare Knuckle in Japan judging by all the fanart it got.

>>3676085

Anon I was making a shit joke

>>3676398
I know, but it doesn't change the fact that UC was popular in Japan. Never understood why the game bombed in the U.S. (supposedly the export versions of the game were based on an early revision, which doomed it)

whats the best saturn game non fighting

>>3665705
why do these games have to be so expensive?

>>3670589
Which version of Final Fight did you 1cc?

>>3671945
Nekketsu Kouha Kunio-kun = Pac-Land

Double Dragon = Super Mario Bros.

Final Fight = Super Mario Bros. 3

Streets of Rage 1/2 = Sonic

Streets of Rage 3 = Awesome Possum

>>3676615
I didn't realise a spindle of cd-rs' was expensive.

>>3676963
>Pac-Land is better than SMB
always knew it

>>3676963
>Streets of Rage 3 = Awesome Possum
You went too far there m8.