/vr/ - Retro Games

=== NEWS ===

[12-7] DoomRL source code released!
https://github.com/ChaosForge/doomrl

[12-6] Run For It, a mod where all decorations/projectiles/items grow pairs of legs and run around, was released
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LE96VqwW2zs

[12-5] Anon map release; Hubris Containment Sector
https://www.dropbox.com/s/n3l6f32py83m3s5/Hubris%20Containment%20Sector%20%28Final%29.wad?dl=0

[12-4] Arcane Dimensions v1.5 for Quake released
https://twitter.com/SimsOCallaghan/status/805343155092680704

[12-4] One anon made a music mod, using OGG format
https://mega.nz/#!3pl0DIIR!xhINj4Ps0m265me6n84Ujc8qjU0OzA8pLudeQEzAXZ0

[12-3] Smooth Doom revived with a bugfix update; plans to add in Doom64 plasma weaponry later
http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=45550

[12-1] 'No End In Sight', an Ultimate Doom megawad
https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom/Ports/megawads/neis

[11-29] RIP Steven Hornback, former Apogee/3D Realms artist
https://twitter.com/3drealms/status/803363758605299713

[11-27] The Macbook Pro's touch bar runs Doom
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GD0L46y3IqI

[11-22] Retro Jam 5, a Wind Tunnel-themed map pack for Quake
http://celephais.net/board/view_thread.php?id=61377

[11-19] MetaDoom v2.0 is out
http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=53010

[11-19] Custom Gun: The Gun-ening. Done by the Hexen Souls author
http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=54303

[11-14] Doom 64-style map textures for Doom 2
http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=37&t=54248

[11-13] Blade of Agony Chapter 1 release
http://www.moddb.com/mods/wolfendoom-blade-of-agony/news/blade-of-agony-chapter-1-released

[11-9] Suddenly a Russian Overkill update
http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=29915&p=953003#p953003

[11-9] RIP Malinku, Doom mapper
https://www.doomworld.com/vb/everything-else/91549-user-malinku-was-murdered/

===

If you would like to submit news and personal map releases, please reply/backlink to this post.

Which one do you like more, doom style maps or duke nukem style maps ?

>>3662594
Quake style maps.

>>3662594
A mix between Duke and Half-Life style I think would be best.

>>3662594
It's hard to choose. Both Duke 3D and Doom/Quake style mapping is very different and IMO both have their pros and cons.

>>3662601
Quake 2?

>>3662637
No.

How difficult would making a map for Quake be for someone who hasn't done it before? Is making Quake maps as cozy as playing them?

>>3662676
Think of it like this. For Doom maps, you make things out of lines. For Quake maps, you make things out of blocks.
Download the go-to Quake map maker Trenchbroom and look through some tutorials.

>>3662681
Half-Life's worldcraft is still the best level editor I ever used.

>>3662689
So what went wrong with Hammer? I keep hearing it's shit

>>3662720
Dunno. I tried using it once, saw it wasn't like worldcraft, and dropped it. I'm too used to having three screens showing the map's blueprints to do without.

>>3662554
What did he mean by this

>>3662731
Use your head.

So Q2 is the id's game with best soundtrack, right?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5_Zi7s4vcZg

>>3662762
Nah i its q1

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qVOHTGYoM6E

>>3662676
Trenchbroom is by far the easiest editor out there. Making geometry is insanely quick once you get the hang of it.

>>3662727
Hammer is literally Worldcraft with another name and with more features.

>>3662832
Fake. Hammer is a blunt, communist tool.

What are the different steps of olde FPS?
It started with Wolfenstein, then Doom introduced heighs and sharp corridors instead of squares, then Duke Nukem added jumping and kekpack, and Quake introduced 3D enemies.
Am I forgetting something?

>>3662868
Well, if you consider the even older titles like Catacombs 3D, Hovertank 3D, and Maze War, then there would be other minor steps of improvement from the earlier days, but as far as bigger steps go... Marathon introduced swimming and dual-wielding, System Shock introduced vertical aiming and reloading, hm... That's all I can think of.

>>3662735
considering how random damage values work in doom, having absolute high damage as well as an absolute lowest one dealt to you doesn't seem far off

>>3662887
you reload in marathon as well

Just finished marathon, that was cool i guess. It gets better later though right guys?

>>3662941
Depends. Marathon 2 is shorter but has a more action focused gameplay. Also the mouselook is better.

>>3662579
Would Vincent Van Gogh have liked playing Doom?

>>3663013
He would have modded it to change the textures.

>>3663020
would be one hell of a wad desu

anybody still got it in them to 'shop this one?

just imagine doomguy's face there with a powerup instead of the plant

maybe change the blue background into the hell background for maximum portrait points

Going Down feels very post-modern. Any other wads like it?

>>3662446
>>TIL projectile damage is done by picking a random number from 1 to 8 and multiplying it by the Damage property, instead of being weighted like dice rolls
that *is* a dice roll, dumbass. it deals 1d8*10 hp.

Sooo thanks to that pinball game, the Doomguy model from the new game got ported to SFM

Sprite artists, I send you my energy.

>>3663046
>the Doomguy model from the new game got ported to SFM
dude nice. is it still wip or has it been released already?

>>3663046
>the Doomguy model from the new game got ported to SFM
Porn when?

I don't play DOOM often and I never play custom wads and I barely even read this thread. But yall OP pic game has been on point. I love cacodemons.

>>3663046
Got the link? I lost it.

>>3663042
>weighted like dice rolls
Read better. 10d8 is multiple dice rolls and would have a weighted result.

>>3663049
>>3663052

The Man They Call The Kins should know, he posted a picture of D4 Doomguy punching thru D3 Doomguy's body on his tumblr.

>>3663058
I mean to the Pinball's Steam store page.

[12-6] Run For It, a mod where all decorations/projectiles/items grow pairs of legs and run around, was released
That video, my fucking sides

>>3663074
>mfw even mancubus's fireballs have legs
That's adorable.

>>3662937
System Shock came earlier, and Marathon's reloading is automatic like the pistol in Duke.

Anyone know where to shop around for midi music for your wads?

>>3663117
I always hated that. These pistols were fucking always rig to run out of ammo in the middle of a fight.

YES, I'M LOOKING AT YOU, UNREAL

>>3662887
You could look up and down and Ultima Underworld which came out 2 years before Shock 1 iirc.

>>3663049
Here is the model port:
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=813800801

Again, lower res/detail than Doom 4 (the texture is a 1024x1024!) but we don't have to assemble the texture out of tons of varying-resolution 128x128 chunks so this is what we get for now.

You can use http://steamworkshopdownloader.com/ if you just want to grab the model files to shove into a decompiler (I use Crowbar) and put into Blender.

>>3663050
A brave new world of Impse is approaching and I'm not sure if anybody's ready for it.

>>3663059
http://store.steampowered.com/app/226980/ I think you can play a time-limited demo of Doom Pinball for free.

>>3663202
Thanks m8.

>>3663202
The only pinball game I ever played was the one given with the old Windows. How does that compare to it?

>>3663202
That makes me want to shoot a hell knight in the face.

>>3663139
other wads or maybe vgmusic is where I get all of my stuff.

>>3662832
Friendly remember that Trenchbrom 2 beta is a thing and have 2D views

>>3663202
Huh. I never noticed that he has a utility belt before.

>>3662582
>DoomRL source code released

Android port when?

my fucking face when I realized the weapon-swapping trick from serious sam 2 works in d44m

>>3663229
Someone needs to play some Epic Pinball stat

>>3663361
which is?

>>3663050
I can't wait to see Doomguy get his dick out!

>>3663373
unlike quake 3 or doom, the recharge time for railguns, super shotguns etc. is reset if you switch weapons then switch back. so in ss2, you can shoot a barrage of buckshot by juggling the two shotguns, and in d44m you can juggle super shotgun and gauss cannon for retarded amounts of damage.

>>3663395
this is genuinely one of the most fun mechanics in d44m imho.
generally reminds me of stuff like quake and dn3d where you could flick switch between guns and make your opponent batter out and lose his focus, or swap out a reloading shotgun for an explosive weapon and deal lots of damage in a matter of seconds, shit is orgasmic

it's also one of the main reasons the MP has a 2 gun limit, but most people never realize this it still sucks tho desu

>>3663389
>Don't need a gun.
>unzips dick
>Guns are for wusses.

Been playing Aliens: The Ultimate Doom. It's interesting because the items and enemies are randomized. This makes things somewhat broken but I find it fun anyway. Anyone else playing it?

>>3663415
>encounter a cyberdemon
>pic related happens

>>3663423
that hud just screams "pieced together from like six other mods without knowing how any of them work"

>>3663412
the gauss and the rocket mod for the assault rifle are easily some of the most satisfying fps weapons ive ever used. the actual rocket launcher was a let down though.

I want to create a version of the dump 3 weapon pack that allows for multiple pick ups of the same class and remove some of the sillier weapons. How do I go about that? I have zero experience.

>>3663429
>Change of plans, I do need a condom. I need a BIG condom!

>>3663245
I know, I use it. Pretty unstable still.

>>3662647
But that's pretty much it, even if it's apparently your taboo game.

>berserker pack - gone

>>3663429
>berserker pack - gone

>>3663446

There should be a cvar that allows for pickups of the same class, I think.

>>3663627
>berserker pack - gone

Lately I'm having a hard time organizing my Doom mods/wads.

What are some programs to arrange my Doom folder?

I just realized the Quake 3 machine gun works under the same premise as the Doom chaingun.

>massive rotary gun
>however actually not that strong
>doesn't fire as fast as one would expect
>however it does have very good uses as precision weapon
>more like a regular assault rifle/machine gun with a gatling gun skin

>>3663618
Half-Life for it's good linear maps and their transition, as well as exploration.

Duke Nukem 3D for how decorated the levels are, and for being open ended and featuring lots of good exploration and secrets.

I like Quake 2, a lot, but it's not really what I'm looking for in the exact sense, Quake 2 isn't quite as barren as Quake 1, but it still doesn't have all the detail that Duke 3D has.

>>3663648
neat

good observation skills

>>3663652
My bad. I just tend to find annoying when people here give Quake 2 a lot more shit than it actually deserves.

>>3663659
It deserves all the shit though.

>>3663664
Ah, there we go. I was wondering where you went.

>>3663664
no, not really.

>>3663664
You deserve all the shit though.

>>3663673
Yes it does. It tried to run on Quake's popularity, while doing something completely different.

>>3663676
I really liked Quake 2.
It isn't that great.
But i never got Quake I until way after i had Quake 2.
And it was a really decent game? no?

>>3663679
>I really liked Quake 2.
Stopped reading there.

>>3663681

>>3663681
STOP LIKING WHAT I DON'T LIKE.

>>3663676
>It tried to run on Quake's popularity, while doing something completely different.
the fact that you're trying to force this as an apparently negative point is genuinely amusing.

here's to hoping you don't get a schism from playing nudoom or wolfenstein.

>>3663648
That gun always looked very weird to me, more like some sort of drill than a minigun of any kind.

>>3662594
A mix of Quake and Unreal would be good imo. The exploration and size of Unreal, and the flow of quake.

Depends on what game you're mapping for though.

>>3663687
>here's to hoping you don't get a schism from playing nudoom or wolfenstein.
Hate to defend the Q2 haters, but that's a pretty bad point. NuDoom and the newer Wolfenstein games are still in some way a continuation of the main themes from their predecessors. It's not like NuDoom is suddenly a tactical counter terrorism game, which is as different from the original premise as Quake 2 was from Quake.

>>3663694
>The exploration and size of Unreal, and the flow of quake.

Sounds like some of the Arcane Dimensions maps

>>3663697
The premise of Quake changed near every game

>1 is a high speed shooter with dark gothic horror themes
>2 is a sci-fi shooter with cyborg monsters
>3 is a completely unrelated arena game which takes characters from various id games (as well as makes up a bunch of new ones) and is all about multiplayer
>4 is a sequel 2
>new quake is 3 all over again

Technically there's more precedent for the Strogg theme or Arena theme than there is the Slipgate theme

>Bethesda Id Removed the Denuvo Anti tamper from Doom, there are LOTS of reports that the games performance increased A LOT after this update

>Doomguy/Slayer armor can be acquired on MP after lvl 11
>Doomguy/Slayer Armor can be used on Snapmap
>Bots added to MP and normal matches

With this, then its true the rumors that bethesda is planning to move out from steam in 2017 with their own gaming platform + GOG

Even if the anti tamper is Securing some early money, the thing itself its being more than a headache for them.

Dishonored 2 is suffering from the same performance problems that Doom Had during the release

>>3663676
>It tried to run on Quake's popularity, while doing something completely different.

Yeah right, it's not like Quake 3 did the same thing.

>>3663708
>performance problems that Doom Had during the release

I thought I heard that Doom ran like a charm on release.

>>3663705
Haven't played it yet.

>>3663202

Metroid Doom when?

>>3663709
Well, I hate Quake 3 too. The game is real fun, but there's no story, no adventure. Just a bunch of deathmatches.

I liked quake 2. But then again I skipped quake 1 because my computer was pretty pants back then. Mods and online play and shit, good times.

>>3663717
Seeing as how Nintendo is putting bounties up on copyright infringers you are probably better off waiting for Booty Project

>>3663708
Have they STILL not released classic armor?

>>3663727

Seeing how they still keep the Smutfic that is Haloroid on YT after all these years...

It's more like Quake is the label that everything not Wolfenstein/Doom gets released under, with such titles as Lovecraft: The First Person Shooter, Space Marine meets the Borg, and Ultimate id Software Crossover Fragfest: Arcade Edition.

>>3663727

I thought the bounty system was just for finding exploits in the 3DS firmware.

>>3663735
I like Lovecraft, and I wish we got more FPS where we actually kick ass, instead of going insane.

>>3663739
Well the Ranger DOES go insane, sort of. It's just that he keeps kicking ass regardless of that.

>>3663708
what kind of dance is that called

>>3663741
>implying Ranger wasn't already mad to begin with
I think Quake 2's protagonist is the only one that isn't insane by the end of the game.
>wolfenstein
>always a homicidal insane but it's okay because he only kills nazis
>Doom
>lol sanity is for the weak, gonna wreck Hell
>Quake
>ends up insane, probably was to begin with
>Quake 2
>pretty okay
>Quake 3
>they're probably all insane after fighting for eternity against each others
>Quake 4
>ends up stroggified, probably has a major freak-out once the war is over and he can realizes what happened

>>3663738

nah its still the shitstorm caused by AM2R and Pokemon Uranium


Even if we update Metroid Dreadnought to run as a complete 1.1 remake of prime's gameplay and a huge megawad, they wouldn't C&D us

>>3663741
Q3 Bio already states that he went nuts after fucking with the entire time and space at the end of DoE

>>3663743
GOD DANGIT ANON!

>http://ahahahahripntear.ytmnd.com/
"improved with memes"
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IFQ_dopXPZE

>>3663738
Yeah, that's right. You don't need to pay monies to hunt down fangames since stuff like those fan-made game projects cant really stay off the radar for long.

I mean I understand that Nintendo gotta protect their IP since it's all they got and the console market is looking skinnier by the minute.

>>3663734
I tried googling that and got some band's music video? I guess movies and fiction is less of a priority than, well, games, even if they're fangames.

I estimate ~half a megabyte worth of TEXTURES lumps in the end.

>>3663761
It looks pointing way too far up.

>>3663763
Intentional, since it it'll only be that far up when the cursor crosshair is near the top of the screen.

>>3663741
Well something is up with him. After using the slipgates for so long (because isnt the tech pre existing and nothing new?.) Its unknown whether hes even fully human anymore

>>3663749
>Quake 3
>they're probably all insane after fighting for eternity against each others
that or they chill out with some space-beer in the vadrigar locker rooms between fights.

>>3663739
>instead of going insane

Just look at this face.

>>3663775
"when u grisly but she still grotto" will forever be associated with that face for me since that recent thread.

>>3663749

thre's a pretty big rumor that Makron transfered his soul and memories to Kane after the nexus died

this is why you can hear his laugh at the end where he's "cool" about the war continuing

>>3663784
>when u grisly but she still grotto
What???

>>3663787

>>3663761
take that clouds!

>>3663787
Grisly grotto is a level and song

>>3663794
Ha?

>>3663792
Alright, you got me

>>3663423
>>3663727
Yuck. Who would want to play a game with textures that look like a toddler drooled on them all?

>>3663793

>>3663804
Yeah, you should wipe your mouth next time.

Report & Ignore the Filter Posters

>>3663720
>I hate Quake 3
>it's real fun

>>3663720
>I hate Quake 3

wow rude

>>3663840
I got a better image

>>3663849
oh shit this is too accurate lmao

>>3663727
>Seeing as how Nintendo is putting bounties up on copyright infringers you are probably better off waiting for Booty Project
Say, how is Konami doing there? I've been toying with the idea of a Metal Gear mod based after the MSX titles, particularly after that Survive fiasco.

>>3663849
Perfect.

>>3663796
HUHN

>>3663858

I haven't heard of any Metal Gear fan projects getting shut down, but I haven't really heard of any in the first place.

>>3663858
>>3663880
Someone attempted to remake MGS1 in UE4, got shut down. Someone else attempted to remake MG1 in Source, also got shut down despite initially getting the go-ahead from Konami when asked. The latter even had David Hayter himself doing voice work for both Big Boss and Solid Snake.

Unless it's Capcom (and don't attempt remakes against them either), most Japanese companies ignore fan projects unless they're remakes or way too popular to stay under their radar. Western companies i'm not sure on, but then people don't usually try to remake western games to a well-known degree as a fan project (as far as i know, and outside of open source engines or such).

So I'm starting a big heretic wad. I'd love to import a bunch of textures from doom and hexen as well as realm 667. Does anyone know any decent guides? I'm having a hard time wrapping my head around it

>>3663893
static or animated?

>>3663898

The thing about nintendo is that

Nintendo of japan and YUROP is cool with Fan crations, Nintendo japan had even the late Iwata and then Miyamoto saying that they dont care about it


its Only Nintendo of America and Reggie

>>3663339
FPC (Free Pascal Compiler) supports Android and dozen other systems. So Android port would be just few key presses away.

>>3663910
You'd ideally need to set it up for decent touch controls. virtual keyboard shit sucks pretty hardcore.

>>3663939
it wouldn't be an android port if it wasn't inconvenient as fuck to actually play

>>3663939
>>3663946
I think It'd be pretty easy to translate the mouse-only controls to touch controls. Just have 4 buttons at the top, "attack", "inventory", "help", and "settings". To move you'd just tap where you wanted to go. I don't know how someone could fuck that up.

>>3663749
bitterman isn't very bitter for being a bitter man

>>3663749
>Quake 2
>Still Insane, but Yellow for some reason.

Quake:
>has cute shamblers

Quake 2, Q3A, Quake 4, ET:QW, Wolfenstein 3D, RtCW, Doom, Doom II, Doom 3, D44M, Commander Keen: Goodbye Galaxy, Dangerous Dave in Copyright Infringement:
>has no cute shamblers

how is it evne a contest??

>>3663984
disable the OpenGL renderer in video options

I just realized Anarki's board has a lost soul on it!

>>3664051
damn

good eye m8

>>3664038

or wait for Q2XP, even Kmquake didnt managed to get rid of the ugly new vegas orange palette

>get Blood
>"Hell yeah time to kill some zombies"
>the mouse looking feels really weird, in fact a lot things feel really floaty
Is this how the game is? It's fun but man it feels weird playing it

>>3664069
Get BMOUSE

I fucking hate decorate. There has to be an easier way to import textures/things. Right? RIGHT?

Seriously FUCK decorate.

>>3664075
Anything that isn't the "Launch Blood" .exe says that it's not compatible with the current version of windows. What's up with that?

>>3664232
You gotta run it through DOSBox. There's a tutorial on how to set up bmouse.exe in Blood's setup.exe on the GoG forums.

>>3664232
Yeah i get that to. Not sure what to do about it. Also

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=286998267

A pretty good guide for getting it to run better

>>3664223
e honda running absolutely wild there

Quick inquiry.

I'm using ZDL to load in a coctail of stuff.

An OBLIGE'D megawad.
Metadoom v2.1 Olivia (with optional pk3).
and Synthdoom.pk3

Things load up alright, but the Synthdoom.pk3, which replaces map music with random synthwave, fails to work and original doom 2 music plays. Works fine on its own. Tried fucking with the load order but nothing seems to make a difference.

Any idea as to what I can do from here?

>>3664223

importing textures doesn't involve decorate at all

>>3664236
I must be retarded or something. This guide mentions an autoexec line in the dosboxBlood.conf but even using the search, it's nowhere to be found.

>>3664306
If i remember correctly just searvh for blood.exe and you can find it

>>3664286
Everything's working for me, no matter which .pk3 I put at the start of the load order. Dunno what your issue is, though my (G)ZDoom version isn't the latest dev build or whatever.

>>3664308
Even searching for that in the conf finds nothing. Now I'm getting suspicious. Where should that line be? I feel like I'm missing lines in my files.

>>3664286
Could it be something with the music settings in OBLIGE?

Is there a quick and easy way to import realm 667 stuff into your wad? I mean selecting EACH item in slade and copying and pasting takes god damn forever and half the shit doesn't work.

>>3664318
>I mean selecting EACH item in slade and copying and pasting takes god damn forever and half the shit doesn't work.

You're doing it wrong, then, because copy/pasting really does not take that long.
What are you trying to do, specifically?

>>3664329
I want to test out a fuckton of monsters, weapons, textures, and weather effects before starting a big new wad. I just copy and paste their content into my map through slade, make sure they have a 15000ish number if they don't in their decorate file, and hope for the best. But half of them come out broken or not working at all. It's really getting on my nerves there has to be a better way

>>3664335

Post your wad, nigga.

>find that Twilight wad
>try it
>secret passageways everywhere
>blue card hidden behind bars
Holy shit, go fuck yourself with that cryptic bullshit, I want to shoot thing, not move back and forth with cards.

>>3664337
ok so if i'm not mistaken I have to double click each and every one of those, copy their content, paste it back in, number the decorate if need be, then save it.

But doing this with just a dozen led to a ton of errors I don't understand with only around 5 of them working?

I'm fucking something up. I love designing levels but this shit.... yeesh.

Doom is probably the shittiest FPS every made, really aged poorly.

>>3664343
Sorry, I misspelled Quake 2.
My bad!

>>3664343
You ever play a FPS on a console? I remember being high as fuck watching my friends play some original xbox games and I thought I was in gamer hell. Games looked like shit, played like shit, and some didn't even have music or ambient sounds. Fuckin console players man.

>>3664342
jfc, anon

>>3664342
>I'm fucking something up.

This is an understatement. I'm not even sure where to begin, to be honest.

Give me a moment, I need to process exactly what I'm seeing.

>>3664353
Like 100 things I downloaded from realm667 I want to test to see what they do.

Is there an easy way to do this?

>>3664342
how much fucking stuff do you have

>>3664357

Okay, let's start this from the top.

1: Testing 100 things at once is a fool's errand. Things are guaranteed to explode in your face. The point of testing things like this is to adjust things a bit at a time, not cram in everything you absolutely can and then be surprised when things don't work.
2: The fact that you've crammed everything in undoubtedly means a lot of files are likely being overwritten with each other, assuming they're even loading in the first place.
3: Your main file is a .wad file, which can not contain other .wad files. A .pk3 can contain a .wad file inside, but a .wad with another .wad inside won't be read.
4: You have mixed files everywhere, mixing graphics with .zips with text files, and there are A LOT with their names cut short. And there are probably more with the same filename overwriting each other.
5: There doesn't seem to be any dividers/markers that divide the decorate from the sprites or the sounds or anything of the sort.

And that isn't even getting into the issues of how to load new actors into a map in the first place.
I ain't seen somethin' fucked so bad in a long time.

>>3664342

>>3664371
Well the map is literally an empty square and slade was one button open directory realm667 stuff.

So guess I'll just delete it all and start cherry picking stuff /sigh

>>3664371
Was hoping it would be like skyrim mods where you can just throw in as much shit as you want and enjoy the show

>>3664342
does anyone have that image of johnny doom where someone opened up the acs folder and there was like 20+ acs files

>>3664342
I'm pretty sure this is what programmers have nightmares about.

>>3664371
Tell that to games "journalists".

>>3664381
I think that was Term

>>3664347
why you post this meme man

>>3663708
does that mean the game can be modded now?

>>3664447
And also hopefully it won't just randomly crash anymore.

>>3663708
>With this, then its true the rumors that bethesda is planning to move out from steam in 2017 with their own gaming platform + GOG

For fuck's sake. Just how many pieces of spyware do I need to install to play vidya?

>>3664467
Enough to make it a pain in the ass.
And be ready to be called a loser by society and medias, until video games become a new fad, and everyone starts playing them, and they become casual shit instead of being fun and challenging.

I feel terrible even mentioning it but does anyone have a link to Grezzo 2 and all the DLC? My version is without

>>3664447
shy demons
i require source

>>3663708
>Dishonored 2 is suffering from the same performance problems
Removing it from my wishlist.

sup gays,

do you pussy-save on quake maps? To me a lot of them seem a bit too long for no midlevel saving.

>>3664484
>loser comes here for confirmation
Lol no. You're the only one doing it.

>>3664484
A 20-minute map like Metal Monstrosity isn't something I would use saves in but I'd use saves in a map like Leptis Magna which is 40+ minutes long, and even then I'd do it only before a foreboding arena encounter.

Quake in general is pretty fair when it comes to surprising or overwhelming the player, compared to Doom II where I find that a lot of its gameplay design (which is only exacerbated in its custom maps) tends to lead to scenarios that are instantly lethal and require precognitive knowledge to beat.

Hi,

I posted this Doom 2 level a few days ago and I have since made some tweaks to it. Fixed some minor bugs and increased the difficulty by reducing ammo in certain key places.

If you played it before don't bother, because the changes are minor, but if you haven't played it then please take a look and post any feedback.

http://www.mediafire.com/file/v6l1k3g6gpu00pc/Mountain-Escape.zip

http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=31741

Looks like Necrodoom got an update.

I've just found out about BStone source port and want to play Blake Stone with it. Tried the game some years ago, but wasnt really interested, now want to play it with WASD. How was the levels of the thing /vr, and how far by now is the port's progress - is it playable?

>>3664537
>still doesn't have the arm-mounted shotgun

Damn it

>>3664539
>try it out
>can't remap W and S keys

You gotta be shitting me.

>>3664584
Oh nevermind, it has a "modern controls" option outside of the controls menu. What an odd way to set up the options menu.

Somehow mouselook feels really sluggish and imprecise compared to ECWolf even after adjusting the sensitivity. Also picking up items from the ground seems to be very hit-or-miss.

>>3664447
Nothing much has really changed, realistically - Denuvo only obfuscated the EXE, not the resource files, which have been poked around in since the closed alpha. Maybe since it'll be easier to poke around the EXE it'll be easier to print ASCII dicks to the screen or perform other Stupid Code Injection Tricks, but realistically, you're not gonna be able to do whatever it is you want to do without Id Studio, which PROBABLY isn't ever gonna get released.

>>3663708
(img - jump to conclusions mat dot joint photographic experts group)

>>3663905
What ?

What do you prefer, Doom or Quake?

I like Doom more. The combat is meatier and more straightforward. Especially when playing wads I love the high difficulty with basically 2d gameplay. There is absolutely no bullshit when playing Doom.

Quake is a good game and I like playing maps for the level design and architecture but the combat doesn't really have any weight behind it.

>>3664637
I like Doom better in most ways.

>>3664637
I prefer Quake. Fewer enemies but fighting each is more nuanced and requires more skilled movement and faster reflexes. Less teleporter trap and monster closet bullshit. Less nukage. Less crushers. Less explosive barrels. Little to no hitscanners. More balanced and varied application of weapons that is encouraged by instant weapon switch and the commonality of rocket ammo drops. And of course, the level design.

>>3664637
>2d gameplay
hope this doesn't derail the thread again

How do I install Arcane Dimensions?

>>3664693
Like any kind of Quake mod. Just unzip the folder into another folder in your Quakespasm folder, then shift+right click to get the option to open a command prompt in that folder, then type in the prompt "quakespasm -game [whatever you named the folder]" and press enter.

Arcane Dimensions then should just run.

>>3664693
Just read the .txt

>>3664701
meh too much hassle fuck this mod and fuck Quake

>>3664710
Well, okay then.

>>3664710
>

I'm looking for some nice comfy wads with vanilla or near-vanilla difficulty. Something like Unholy Realms or Jenesis or Doom 2 Reloaded.

>>3664701
It doesn't fucking work you lying moving violation.

>>3664728
It does. If it doesn't work you're doing something wrong.

>>3664704
Is it possible to run quakespasm in software mode, and does arcane dimensions work in it?

>>3664729
Your dad did something wrong by not drowning you.

>>3664734
Ok, anon.

Fuck Quake.

>>3664734
>>3664728
>>3664739
wew lad

I think Quake is neat, and it still has the best jump sound ever.

That grunt is more iconic to me than Mario's jump

>>3663640
Having the same issue.

>>3664730
Quakespasm doesn't have a software mode.

Fitzquake Mark V has it (the WinQuake executable) and you can run Arcane Dimensions on it, but there's at least one visual bug with doing so which you'll immediately be able to notice in the start map.

We need Brutal Quake.

>>3664747
No we don't.

Was there anything remarkable in multiplayer doom this year?

>>3664537
I don't see any update there. The OP was last edited three years ago. Someone just bumped the thread.

>>3664751
AeonDM came out, that's about it. MP mapping is really dead.

>>3664051
Just Realised, his name is Anarchy.

>>3664749
Yes we do. No one cared about Doom until Mark made BD, with Brutal Quake Quake would have it's time in the spotlight.

>>3664770

Are you retarded? People never stopped caring for Doom or Quake. Please kill yourself.

>>3664350
>No Music
>Or Ambient Sounds.
Sounds like Halo Multiplayer.

>>3664779
Literally no one gave a fucking fuck about Doom until Brutal Doom came out and without BD nu-Doom wouldn't have fatalities. Brutal Doom is the most important thing to happen to Doom franchise.

>>3664779
> feeding shitposters

>>3664784
You are correct if you mean its importance to "normies" and what not. Doom still had a healthy community before BD though

>>3664794
BD is the only relevant mod.

>>3664796
might as well

What do you put in your music folder when playing Quake maps?

>>3664829
fuck Quake

>>3664829
quake is dumb

>>3664829
Same music than when I'm shitting.

>>3664829
Ive never done that before but i have a suggestion!

http://www.last.fm/music/Marc+A.+Pullen/+albums

If youve ever played a freeware game called cube and cube 2:sauerbraten hes the guy who did the music for it.

>>3664794
The Doom community was better before Brutal Doom

>>3664840
I can not disagree with that. Its better to just ignore though

>>3664831
>>3664835


Go back to /v/ samefag

>>3664729
>>3664851
you wanna see a better /vr/?
you wanna destroy shitters who think that trolling is an art?

pull up that report window and hit submit
euthanize the autist that's never seen a clit

What Quake difficulty would you recommend to someone who plays Doom on UV? Hard or Nightmare?

>>3664860

Hard, Nightmare inst that "hard", unless is DoE, fuck those 3x Grenade ogres and the dragon

>>3664632
The pixel noise, is it like a static overlay or an animated fuzz?

>>3664871
static

>>3664829
Put the tracks in Quake/id1/music.
They should be named track02 to track11. There is no track01.

>>3664860
Nightmare right off the bat.

>>3664467
With GOG? None.

>>3664747
The Brutal Fad, Is a fucking joke.
I really DO NOT LIKE Brutal Doom. It's lame af, Putting Reloads in a game like Doom makes 0 sense.
It's like making Doom not Doom anymore, Yes there's lots of Blood, And you got the burtal-executions, but i can't go on Zandronum without a server having Brutal Doom, and then that's become basically "The way to play Doom" in 2016.

I just don't like it. It's bad. In my eyes anyway.

>>3664897
it's second only to complex doom in regards to mp popularity

but mp doom is dead in general anyways so who cares

>>3664897

I like weapons that reload if they have some sort of other additional gimmick to it, like the weapon has infinite ammo or reloading changes how the weapon behaves

>>3664467
GOG is based, I have no qualms about this

I decided to play custom maps for Quake for the first time using AD and ne_ruins to break my cherry and I feel like I was really missing out by not doing this sooner. Anyone have other map recommendations that isn't the two mentioned? Do good custom episodes exist?

>>3664906
>>3664914
MP Doom is dead. But. Since they killed Quake Live, with their shitty Loadout system, I relish every single frag i am able to commit on Doom Multiplayer, as it is closer to the Quake 3 Experience then Quake Live is. And Brutal Doom is NOT QUAKE III LIKE.

>>3664932
Didn't they reset the whole game, and removed the loadouts?

>>3664747
I want Brutal Deus Ex. JC goes full psycho. If he wants, of course. Deus Ex is all about choice.

>>3664958
THEY DID WHAT?!
BYEBYE.

>>3664961
>Do you have a single FUCK YOU to back that up?

>>3664897

this is why i moved to nuDOOM, the retard multitude of Complex mods based on BRD is ridiculous

>>3664932
QL is pretty much alive and Loadouts are Optional

but then is quake community, at least it isn't fractured like Battlezone98 and 2

>>3664958
literally what

no way

fuck

that can't be real

>>3664858
Hahaha.

>>3664968
nope its fake, loadouts are still there and its optional

but the community still acts like a bunch of autistic kids in the middle of a anniversary

most of them still being ze old EU CPMAfags who keeps bitching About "CPMA IS SUPERIOR, ITEM RESPAWN TIMER IS FOR CASUALS!"

most of them moved to reddit or to ReFlex

>>3664973
I wasn't sure if they removed it or not

>>3664932
>>3664958

As an avid Quake 3 fan I pretty much recoiled in horror with every update they made in QL. I stopped playing when they introduced the new "announcer voice".

Only so much faggotry a man can take

>>3664976
You make me happy I still stuck to Quake 3.

>>3664976
>>3664979
How about OpenArena? It's got a "unique art style of it's own"!!!!

:^)

>>3664976


well Xian was Fired from id after Q3A

>>3664989
openarena iii is pretty legit

>>3664989
I wanted to like OpenArena but it's just not the same

>>3664989

OpenArena was pretty interesting. The clashing artstyle reminds me of Freedoom but they've got some really talented artists on board rectifying that.

>>3664997
This is a shop

>>3664997
>two megawads WITH A CYBERDEMON IN THE FIRST LEVEL made the top ten

>>3665015
Do you get a good weapon to take him down with?

>>3665017
In AA he's a turret that you can either avoid, or telefrag towards the end to get 100% kills.

In BD 64 - no.

>>3664997
Is it really mapping if Mark just changes the gameplay?

>>3665015
Fuck this community.

>>3664897
Brutal Doom is very meh, but there is literally nothing wrong with reloading.

>>3664997
What happened with Sgt Mark and who the fuck is he?

>>3665025
b8

>>3664858
heh

>>3664997

Really convincing edit.

I hope you can actually make a living out of your skills in real-life, though.

It'll be a real shame to learn that you don't.

>>3665025

>bait detected
>Report

>>3665040
>Doom mod where you get a fishing rod and fish for cacos, lost souls, pain elementals, and pinkies, reel them in, and punch them to death
>Can use the rod to fish in all your enemies before killing them

rolling

>>3665060
They did a bowling mod, don't see why this shouldn't work.

>>3665023
In a game like CoD or Half-Life year sure.
But in Doom? It's just. It's like. Making Sonic not able to jump for 5 seconds after he's jumped already.

>>3664997
This seriously annoys me, Jesus.
If this happens I will quit Doom for a week.I wouldn't be able to take so much amount of faggotry.

>>3664997
>no Japanese Community Project

>>3665023
Reloading alters the flow of the game. That's not a bad thing in and of itself, but it means you need maps that account for it.

Reloading is at its best when you already want to do something that prevents you from shooting every so often, like take cover or turn and run. Reloading sucks when you want to wade in guns blazing.
Doom trends towards wading in more than taking cover.

>>3665132

What if only certain guns require reloads while others are fire until the ammo pool runs dry?

What's a good wad that focuses on fighting without going full retard like Plutonia?

Difficulty-wise, how are the different retro FPS?

I feel like Shadow Warrior is harder than Doom.

>>3664897
Brutal Doom allows you to disable reloading, even on MP.

DoomRL is surprisingly fun to play, I suppose due to the simplicity of it, even if I can't make it past the Bruisers yet due to poor luck. Would have liked for a few more class options though.

>>3665218
That reminds me, I have to download it before it goes under.

>>3665218
I myself have only managed to get to the end with a marine berserker build so far. I just can't get in my head that I must shoot enemies before they even get in line of sight.

>>3665242
Ammochain is pretty overpowered. I was able to beat the 100 challenge with it without much effort.

>>3665189
>Doom
>hard
Even on the highest difficulty classic Doom is a cakewalk. Blood, Duke 3d, and SW are all much harder games.

>>3665259
If you were to organize them, which one would be the hardest?

>>3665263
Shadow Warrior
Blood
Duke
Quake 1
Doom

>>3665267
Blood is that hard? I remember having an easy time with it.

>>3665270
Try a higher difficulty level. You'll see it very quickly.

>>3664997
>that low-effort banner
You did so much to make it look so real, but that fake as hell banner kills it.

>>3665281
Whats a good difficulty for blood btw? The highest or the one just below it?

>>3665287
Probably the one right above it.

>>3665267
Whoever okayed the hornets in shadow warriors needs to fuck off

>>3664997
I'd be really surprised if foursite got a megawad. It was impressively sized, but that only made it feel like a very big first map, no amount of detailing makes up for good gameplay.

>>3665189
Blood is far harder than Shadow Warrior. There's even a glitch that increases bullet damage like crazy if you reload during a level on the lowest difficulties.

>>3664724
Jiffy bag is pretty comfy. Vanguard as well but I remember that having some tough moments.

>>3665302

>mfw I saved the nukes for hornets

any wads inspired by h.p lovecraft?

>>3665326
I only know of Strange Aeons.

>>3662582
[12-7] DoomRL source code released!

>>3665328
its right there fagtron

>>3665012
>>3665286
>>3665038
flattered, but it's not a graphics edit. i'm not good with graphics editing.
it's the official banner:
http://www.doomworld.com/gbd2/files/cacoward2016/logo.jpg

Doomguy is actually a serial killer who escaped mental ward the demons we kill are innocent people and the police.

>>3664997
>>3665337
I don't know how to take this.

>>3665340
doomguy is actually a demon.

>>3664439
don't respond to the shitter

>>3665356
Isn't that technically the case, He died and went to hell after all, He just fucked shit up in hell that he keeps on escaping to the mortal realms

>>3665373
That would make him a revenant not a demon.

>try Unholy Realms
>it's a fucking "hey, shotgunners all around you all of a sudden" wad

>>3664286
Oblige is fucking it.

They are set to play vanilla Doom music by name, not by order.

Does GZdoom fucks with the pistol and the chaingun? I remember them being a lot more accurate, but all of a sudden I can't shoot anything anymore.

>>3665417
No pistol and chaingun were always garbage piles of shit fucking abominations.

>>3665416

>>3665417
Maybe you disabled autoaim?

>>3665429
I did, yeah. To compensate for using freelook. I wasn't supposed to?

>>3665417

Do you tap-fire with the chaingun? The first 2 rounds are 100% accurate. The pistol is garbage tho.

>>3665430
Whatever suits you, man. It's just that it takes some time getting used to not using autoaim if you've always used it in the past.

>>3665432
>tap-fire
What?

>The pistol is garbage tho
Yeah, I noticed that, but I find it strange that the pistol is less accurate then the chaingun. Through according to what >>3665429 said, it may be because I turned off the autoaim.

>>3665330
>>3665328
sorry forgot to put the ">" there and that's the reaction i make when source codes are released

don't worry i already know where the link is and have downloaded it.
thanks

>>3665417
>>3665436

The pistol and chaingun are unchanged in GZDoom.

Both of them are the same amount of accurate if you tap fire and the same amount of inaccurate if you hold fire.

>>3665436

>What?

If you press the fire button at a steady rhythm you can rattle off a steady stream of accurate shots from the minigun, turning it into an accurate sniping weapon and it's lethal as fuck in deathmatch

well fuck

>one of Snapmaps new modules is Q1DM4

>http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/101725789653362753/9CF9F32F1B5F7BEAF559F99CA4A53C521C8C4762/

>>3665442
Neat.

>>3665442
damn

>>3665442
Too spacious. Looks more like a UT2004 map.

>>3664038
I was making a joke about Quake 3, m8

>>3665337
>>3664997
>http://www.doomworld.com/gbd2/files/cacoward2016/logo.jpg

bruh

>>3664997
but i thought /vr/ was better than /v/!

>>3665025
Guy who made Brutal Doom. He's got an attitude problem and is generally an asshole.

i'm stuck in the TEXTURES editor and i can't get out

I want Burl Tumd updates

>>3665538

dats it mane

>>3665537
you know when you reduce it to just that, he doesn't seem like that bad of a guy

now if you bring up his rampant code thievery, he suddenly becomes actually sinister

>>3665542

poorly organized code thievery at that

>>3665545
truly the worst

>>3665548
>0.l

>>3665537
>He's got an attitude problem and is generally an asshole
Isn't that common to all modders? Medieval 2 Total War has a really good Zelda mod, with models and shit, but the guy who made it threw a public fit when Hyrule Warriors was released because "it doesn't make sense that one person can kill so many people by himself".

>>3665556
I remember someone on /vr/ saying that there was some guy who was really good at working with the donkey kong country games, but he was an insufferable asshole.

>>3664997
Even brutal doom is hardly distantly identical.
By many aspects.

>>3665132
>Reloading sucks when you want to wade in guns blazing.
Not usually a big problem for me.

I make sure to keep guns loaded, and when facing the fray, I strafe and duck (if necessary) to avoid enemy fire, running from cover to cover, luring enemies into infighting, swapping to another loaded gun, anything to get breathing-room (more of a concern with hitscanners, but I usually try to deal with them with the help of cover, since you can't strictly dodge a hitscan).

It's a lot like regular Doom, you just have to continue moving and never let up, working in reloads into these equations I feel is pretty exciting.

>>3664897
Reloading only adds another layer of complexity, also it's not like every gun needs it, see: BFG.

>but i can't go on Zandronum without a server having Brutal Doom, and then that's become basically "The way to play Doom" in 2016.
Are you in 2013 or something? There's barely any BD servers nowadays, the most popular gameplay mod is Complex Doom and even then most of the servers nowadays are varied than say, a year ago.

>>3664742
HUUH

>>3664906
>>3664932
>MP Doom is dead
You mean number of players? Cause there's 156 right now, that's way more than say, Skulltag's average back then in 2009.

>>3664997
Is this for fucking real? I was about to dismiss it as a shoop, but with >>3665337 now I'm wondering.

>>3664875
>recommending nightmare when it's easier than hard due to breaking monster AI

>>3665189
Hardest: Nam
2nd place: Jedi Knight (on hardest difficulty of course)
3rd place: Blood on hardest

>>3665267
>Quake
>Doom
>Duke
>Hard
what?

>>3665606
of course it isn't
the banner is the only real thing about it it seems

stop going full /v/

>>3665615
>damage control

>>3664997
>GZDoom's Unique Lighting
>Implying GZDoom's lighting is unique compared to Doom64.

How common is Doom64's 6-part lighting anyway? was it unique to Doom64 or did they do it on a few N64 games?

>>3665617

what would happen to /doom/ if BD64 wins?

>>3665632
judging by just the past few posts, you can see what will happen

>>3665632
/sthg/ level chimpout

>>3665632
it would be extremely brutal

>>3665636

>>3665632
I'm converting to islam.

>>3665646

Let's not do anything radical now.

so with arcane dimensions' popularity

QUMP FUCKING WHEN

>>3665337
lol

>>3664932
Loadouts were always optional, and once dedicated server binaries were released barely any servers used them now.

Plus CPMA still kind of has a player base if you want to play Q3.

>>3665686

god this year was pathetic for mods.

>>3665686

>>3665686
>it's real

>>3665686
>http://www.doomworld.com/23years/final.txt

>

>>3665686
Trump Doom was legit good though, regardless of /pol/itics,

>>3665686
>No D4D
Am I missing something?

>>3665698
>filename

kek

>>3665690
There's always next year.

<Alfonzo> holy. shit.
<Alfonzo> I mean I don't get /vr/ at all. are their reponses in earnest?
<Alfonzo> did they swallow the txt file hook, line and sinker? :D

no

>>3664997
why are so many folks getting their almonds activated over this?

>>3665686
>mockaward: snapmap

>>3665729
Which secret club is this from?

>>3665729

Whoever this is, and the rest of you people, you're all ginormous faggots.

You know what we need?

Smooth Quake.

Fuck the ugly graphical "enhancement" mods, I just want something that adds more frames to the weapons and such.

>>3665751

Isn't that what the interpolation is for

>>3665751
Animation interpolation

>>3665751
r_lerpmodels 1

>>3665132
>Reloading is at its best when you already want to do something that prevents you from shooting every so often, like take cover or turn and run. Reloading sucks when you want to wade in guns blazing.
Doom trends towards wading in more than taking cover.
SuperShotgun.jpg

>>3665868
Super Shotgun's reload might as well be a slow firing rate, you shoot once and then the animation plays.

>>3665872
The point is that if reloads are bad because they slow down gameplay, the SSG is worse, due to longer downtime.

>>3665885
Reloads are bad because they interrupt gameplay. The SSG just has a slow fire rate. It's constant instead of forcing you to do something not-shooty every six seconds.

Here's an embarrassing question.. if I wanted to pay someone to make game weapon for me where would I go to ask around and how much you think it would cost?

tfw too inbred to learn how to do it myself :(

>>3665908
The dark web

>>3665182
You could try my map if you are up for it. It's in the sticky under [12-5]

I love hearing feedback on it (even the meany ones)

>>3665908

Depends on how complicated the weapon is, really. Some weapons are really easy to make, others are pretty fucking rough.

>>3665637
>chimpout

You gotta go /b/ack.

>captcha: edgewood norte

>>3665920
What's an example of a really complex weapon?

The tesla gun that an anon is working on looks pretty crazy

>>3665930
Found the /sthg/ poster.

Shouldn't you be whining about how Tails hurt your feelings by simply existing and arguing about porn?

Any idea how to change music for a level in Heretic? I know it's in SLADE, but I can't seem to find the file to change music or anything.

>>3665729
>>3665686
>>3665337
>>3664997

LOL. Okay, let's assume for a minute that this low-effort scenario actually happens. Brutal Doom 64 wins, yadda yadda 2016...

People actually protest online over it. Naturally /doom/ goes nuclear over the amount of discussion/shitposting that sparks.

An internal conflict about Doom modding ethics happens, because BD64 is bundled with many resources from the Nintendo 64 ROM file, and the mod can be downloaded for free. So what's the point of forcing people to not use IWAD resources in their projects, if Sgt. Mark not just got a green light with using Doom 64 stuff, but actually was awarded over it? And in an event hosted by a Doom forum known for being very moralist about the IWADs, no less.

People start spreading the stuff Mark did back in the day: the racist remarks in an old version of Brutal Doom, the ZDoom episode where he made a hint to a semi-depressed kid to kill himself and capitalized the words "final solution", and the fact that he never gave proper credit to the actual people behind the resources for his mods. This may be old stuff, but we all know we currently live in an era where people care about stuff like this, and they would wonder "why would they award a person that acts like this?".

And when this reaches all the gaming sites that post about the Cacowards when they're published, this would surely spark even more outrage, not just at Sgt. Mark, but to Doomworld itself, because it just so happens that a couple of high profile Doomworld users happen to be friends with a group of people who actually have links with gaming sites. Just go back in time and remember how Doom 2 In Name Only reached as many sites as it did.

I have no idea if that doctored screenshot was made by one of the organizers or not, and I ultimately don't care. The Cacowards staff is not that stupid to award Sgt. Mark for BD64; unfortunately it seems that they're stupid enough to think people would actually find that idea funny.

>>3666023
Man, Doom modding is serious business.

>>3666023
You are thinking too much into it.
Maybe /doom/ would get mad for a few days but that's it.
No need to.be autistic.

>>3666023
Who cares if a bunch of shitty games websites get mad?