/vr/ - Retro Games

>>3661256
How related is it to the GBA Fire Emblem? Is it harder?

>>3661256
>Maybe I'm just a casual but this game seems like a sort of hidden gem
You are casual, anybody who knows about Sega knows about Shining Force because it's one of the most note-worthy RPG series attached to it, with Shining Force II being one of the best games on the console.

>>3661264
Fire Emblem is much tighter in terms of powerlevels, more lethal, and has permadeath. They're the same genre but radically different games.

>>3661256

I have played through a few SF titles, but like you said, it's a slog. This unfortunately tends to be true of many tactical RPGs, like FF Tactics.

If you haven't played SF2 yet, you may be surprised as how much is improved. Although the art direction takes a more colorful and childish approach, the game play is a lot richer. For starters, you have multiple class upgrade tiers instead of just one promotion per character, and there's actually a selectable difficulty setting on the title screen.

Sword of Hajya for the Game Gear (also an enhanced port on Sega CD) was also pretty enjoyable, but the game is a more watered down version of the SF engine. (e.g. no explorable towns)

>>3661256
you're pretty casual for posting a ridiculous detailed description of a game everyone here has played.

>>3661267
>>3661293

Yeah I figure anyone who knows a thing or two about MegaDrive/Genesis is likely to know about this game, as it's got quite some quality. I literally didn't know what MegaDrive/Genesis was until a few days ago when I dug up some memories of having played that one neat RPG on some shitty emulated games bundle on PC, ~10 years ago, when I was about 10 years old, then asking around to find out that the game I played was Shining Force II.

It's quite funny. For the past ten years I've had a stagnant memory of having played "that one game" (SF2), without knowing its name, what platform it's for, etc. I had only played it once or twice too because I literally couldn't figure out how to save the game (I think the emulator was broken actually), and it was just one of some 50 emulated console games on this odd CD I got by trading with a friend, on which there was also fucking Pac Man 2, Scooby Doo Mystery and other crappy games.

It's a really weird kind of nostalgia.

>>3661256
Not a hidden gem at all, was huge. Played all of the Shining entries multiple times.

Shining force was the reason I couldn't play Final Fantasty Tactics. Played tactics for about 30 minutes and was like "fuck this shining force rip off".

Dark Wizard was good too- if you have a Sega CD.

No guides required just experiment. The game are all pretty easy from what I remember.

>>3661308
>I literally didn't know what MegaDrive/Genesis was until a few days ago
Was it hard moving your furniture out of the rock that you were living under?

I
DON'T
EVEN

>>3661256

Doesn't seem to be much of a hidden gem on /vr/ bug Shining Force/SF2 are indeed wonderful games. I still have mad love for some of the characters in those games:

>Zylo
>Slade
>Guntz

in SF1 pic related was insanely awesome. i don't understand why his second attack animation was so much worse than the first

Never played Shining in the Darkness (i'm a pleb who can't do first-person dungeon crawling w/out an automap) but that game looked extra-cozy

>>3661975
*but

>>3661975
arthur's the coolest SF1 guy

magic horseman is raaad

>>3661905
the genesis in the 90s started to look like tetsuo at the end of akira

>>3661975
SitD has a map spell. It is a dope, plastic-wood-in-a-theme-park kind of dungeon crawler.

>>3661996
i read that he's the best but you have to do some pretty serious grinding to get him there. zylo is just 10/10 the moment you get him straight to the end

>not that insane grinding isn't part of the charm of the game if you choose to
>and still not as good as the phoenix in 2 but w/e
>also based pic related. avg i guess but cool af and i always had him in the squad

>>3662023
that's good to read. that game always looked charming

>>3662005
too funny

This os the second thread in a week claiming Shining Force is a hidden gen

Are we being memed on? It's massively popular

>>3661905
I don't think this is unusual at all for someone born in the early 90s or later, who mostly grew up on PC games. The only console series that "everyone" know of are those of Nintendo (incl. the handheld ones) and those of Sony, correct me if I'm wrong. Well, and ancient arcade machines like the ones on which games like Street Fighter and Mortal Kombat were originally played on. Don't even know who manufactures those.

>>3661996
I missed Arthur and it feels terrible knowing I literally missed the most powerful Paladin character, but then I hated his better-than-thou pretty boy face so...

>>3662069
I made a thread on /v/ to figure out what "that one game" I played back then was, and it was determined to be SF2. Maybe another casual gamer anon saw that thread, began playing the series, and also didn't realize it was popular among retro folks.

>>3662065
Oh yes Earnest is my boy. I just love that EDGE on him, no shame. I really feel like giving him the Devil Lance for extra cool points but then I won't be able to equip spears mid-fight...

>>3663173
>I don't think this is unusual at all for someone born in the early 90s or later, who mostly grew up on PC games. The only console series that "everyone" know of are those of Nintendo (incl. the handheld ones) and those of Sony, correct me if I'm wrong. Well, and ancient arcade machines like the ones on which games like Street Fighter and Mortal Kombat were originally played on. Don't even know who manufactures those.

That's pretty fucking uncommon. The genesis held it's popularity on the playground, so to speak, long after it's prime. And who hasn't heard of Sonic?

>I made a thread on /v/ to figure out what "that one game" I played back then was, and it was determined to be SF2. Maybe another casual gamer anon saw that thread, began playing the series, and also didn't realize it was popular among retro folks.

Well we talk about it pretty often around here.

I admit, my view of what's "popular" has been skewed by years and years of being balls deep in this hobby to the point where I have the tendency to be like "YOU CALL THIS GAME OBSCURE? I HEARD SOMEONE MENTION IT ONE TIME YOU FUCKING CASUAL"

But seriously SF is among the more popular games on the Genesis

>>3663218
>And who hasn't heard of Sonic?
Everybody knows of Sonic because that franchise is everywhere by now. There even was a cartoon of it when I was a kid, and my currently 12 year old brother played "Sonic & Sega All Stars Racing" on his Xbox 360 about two years ago.

It's not that I've never heard of the brand "Sega", but I'd bet money on that 95%+ of people aged 25 or younger have never heard of the Genesis/MegaDrive platform.

I still could be totally wrong. I've grown up in Turkey, learning about console games from my German cousins and through the late 90s / early 00s Internet, mostly just emulating (we once owned a Game Boy Pocket tho) and lived in Germany in the past decade. Maybe it's different in the USA. But for me, SNES, N64, Game Boy, and the PS series are totally "duh" whereas Genesis/MegaDrive is, well, as I said I literally didn't know about that platform until a couple days ago so it seems quite obscure to me.

>>3663295

That explains it. In the USA to have been born in 1990 or so and not have ever heard of the Genesis would have to have meant you lived in some backwater Mormon cult or something

>>3661308
If you literally didn't know about MD until a few days ago then shut the hell up and stop trying to act like you got an epiphany and discovered something new (i.e. calling an EXTREMELY popular and loved game that spawned tons of sequels and offshoots a "hidden gem"). Don't be a damn imbecile. Imbecile.

>>3663435

>>3663421

Starting to wonder if you're the same person as >>3661007 and >>3662306 or whether this board is infested with 12 year-olds who get bullied at school then come here to blow off their pent up frustration by insulting people for petty reasons.

>>3663295
That's like saying a 30 year old has never heard of an Atari

>>3663475
>or whether this board is infested with 12 year-olds who get bullied at school then come here to blow off their pent up frustration by insulting people for petty reasons.

First day on 4chan?

>>3663475
I'm starting to wonder if you're just stupid or a complete retard.

>>3663505
It really sticks out in this board. I guess I just grew accustomed to it in most others.

>>3663507
Yes, you definitely sound like a pent-up 12 year-old. Did mommy scold you?

>>3663529
Don't you have a gay orgy to attend to, Mehmed?

>>3663529
>It really sticks out in this board. I guess I just grew accustomed to it in most others.


Yeah, that's true. /vr/ tends to be more chill, probably because we're all old faggots who have our dickwaving days behind us so it sticks out more when it people lose their cool.

>>3663546
I just began dating someone so no gay hookups for me for now. How did you know though?

>>3663550
I know, right? Everybody's relatively chill and then one dude pops and calls someone an imbecile, retard, cunt, whatever, and for the pettiest reason.

So on hindsight it's actually because this board is not infested with guys like this, that they stick out so much. Weird how that works.

>>3661256
It's pretty well known - the problem is that since it's no longer unique you have to compare it against the other games of its kind and it really kind of comes up short, even compared to the SRPGs that were out at the time. Honestly I feel that even Langrisser 1/Warsong was more fun and interesting and that game's older than SF1.

>>3661256

>Shining Force
>hidden gem

"no"

>>3664634
I haven't tried out Warsong yet but it seems more focused on disposable units? I like it how SF is an SRPG in JRPG clothing so to say.

>>3661256
Shining force, hidden gem

>>3661256
>shining force
>hidden gem

Never make threads again until you've actually done some research.

>>3665304

OP, I have a better tip: Leave 4chan forever. It's not a good place for anyone. You don't need to waste your time on this garbage.

>>3665338

Normally I'm on board with this but /vr/ is bretty gud when our dedicated shitposters are sleeping

>>3665338
I've been on /a/ for almost five years before I finally quit so I'd say I have very high tolerance. This board is nothing in comparison, LOL.

I expressed fondness of so-called "SJW" stuff in gaming (in particular the diversity of characters in Baldur's Gate) and didn't even got shat on by two dozen people so that's like, really advanced for a 4chan board. Complete opposite of my experience on /v/, obviously.

>>3662023
That spell is useless

>>3663475
>whether this board is infested with 12 year-olds who get bullied at school then come here to blow off their pent up frustration
you're projecting pretty hard here buddy

>>3661264
If Shining Force had permadeath then it'd be harder than Fire Emblem to the extent of being stupidly cheap in some battles. Individual encounters were balanced knowing the player could just revive fallen allies and there was no real penalty for losing a battle besides having to try again.

>>3665992
And losing half of your cash.

Have you guys heard of this game Sonic the Hedgehog? Truly a forgotten classic!

>>3662065
I did a playthrough recently where I finally levelled everyone to 20 before promotion and Arthur still came out like ass. His stats immediately after promotion were insane, but his level-ups were all terrible. Zylo, on the other hand, ended up staying one of the best characters until the end, aside from that weird wolf-claw magic mud fling attack animation. Also, the rumored difference between Hans and Diane was negligible at best and Lyle is still superior to both.

Of course there's RNG involved with level-ups, but I was very disappointed because I had high hopes for the marinara knight. Guntz, on the other hand, surprised the hell out of me with his abilities.

So does the game actually give you better stat gains on Ouch! difficulty?

>>3661308

I can't believe I live in a world where somebody doesn't know what a Sega Genesis is.