/vr/ - Retro Games

>>3661313

I loved Blazing Lazers back in the day, great shooter. So is Ordyne, Psychosis and Magical Chase. (MC is retarded expensive now tho)

Military Madness is a good (somewhat simple but fun) turn based strategy.

Alien Crush and Devil's Crush are pretty good pinball sims.

Oh and Bomberman if you've got some friends to play with.

>>3661313
http://vsrecommendedgames.wikia.com/wiki/TurboGrafx-16

>>3661374
So what is the best shmup for the regular PC-Engine/Turbografx overall? Since that is the console's bread and butter.

What is that console's equivalent of Chrono Trigger (as in the MUST PLAY for its respective console in a particular genre).

>>3661313
City Hunter
Batman
Neutopia
Dungeon Explorer
Legendary Axe
Legendary Axe II
Bomberman 93
Bomberman 94
New Adventure Island
Bloody Wolf
Soldier series
Gomola Speed
Dragon spirit
dragon saber
After Burner II
1943 kai
salamander
gekisha boy
bonk's revenge
ninja spirit
splatterhouse

>>3661464
>chrono trigger
>must play

>>3661464
>So what is the best shmup for the regular PC-Engine/Turbografx overall?

Of course that's a matter of opinion, but I really enjoyed Super Star Soldier and Final Soldier. Final Soldier feels very casual in comparison, but the stage design was really nice

There's also a nice port of the original arcade Gradius. If I'm not mistaken, I think that version included an exclusive bonus stage, too.

>>3661481
Chrono trigger is a must play, why would you deny it?

The Turbo CD add-on is mentioned a lot because it was the best cd add on.

I'm not trying to diss the SEGA CD, but it had less gems compared to the Turbo CD.

>>3661492
Expanding on this. Which is the best game overall of the Star Soldier trilogy on the PC-Engine/Turbografx?

>>3661481
Whenever I see one of these big lists I have to mentally filter out the arcade ports. Different story if you're collecting but you're going to emulate it might as well be the best version.

>>3661464
>shmups:PCE::jrpgs:SNES
That's pretty harsh on the SNES...

>>3661647

I want to say Super Star Soldier, but the game bullshits you too much by making you restart at an earlier part of the stage whenever you lose a ship. Boss fights are especially ridiculous.

Final Soldier has probably the best stage design out of the entire series, but the difficulty is too much on the casual side. Maybe if you played it on the hardest setting.

>>3661492
Soldier Blade is better than both of those, and I like all of them. Parts of Soldier Blade legitimately look like they're running on Neo Geo.

>>3661678
Bloody Wolf and 1943 Kai have a ton of extra levels

Ninja Spirit has an easy mode, Splatterhouse has a new hard mode (harder than arcade)

>>3661464

>So what is the best shmup for the regular PC-Engine/Turbografx overall?

Depends who you ask...most people would probably say Soldier Blade though

Air Zonk, Gate of thunder, Lords of Thunder, and Gunhed are all considered top tier though

>What is that console's equivalent of Chrono Trigger

That would be Legend of Xanadu I and II, whose translations are finished...the hackers are figuring out the optional dub right now

Best Platformer is obviously Rondo of Blood, though New Adventure Island and Bonk 2 are also extremely special games

Just got a Flashcart over the weekend and I'm currently hooked on Devil's Crush, Air Zonk, and Coryoon. Coryoon may be super easy but I just cant' stop going back to it.

>>3661847
most pc engine ports have those things like gradius has an extra level. rtype has an extra boss

Which game has the best graphic on PCE including cd?
I know PCE can display much more color than Genesis, so it indeed has much better graphics, right?

How did NEC fuck up the American launch like they did?

It wasn't like the the SNES or Saturn where half the games were text-heavy RPGs that required extensive translations and in the former's case expensive extra-capacity cartridges with a costly battery save. It was an action machine with loads of great arcade ports that were ready to go.

I wanted to get one just for R-type.
>>3661515
That's probably because PC Engine could display more colors onscreen than SNES. (not including the silly 16-bit color cycling bs)

>>3661313
keith courage, dungeon explorer, and silent debuggers was my shit.

>>3662114
They took almost 2 years getting it released in the US and the Sega Genesis still somehow made it to market first. I'll bet if they had a 6 month turn around after Japan, Sega would have been in their shoes.

>>3662110
Including CD?

Arcade CD: Sapphire
Super CD: Rondo of Blood
Just the regular PC-Engine: Soldier Blade or Bomberman 94

I am not so sure on the last one or the Super CD, but that is just from what I have seen.

>>3661678
true, but some ports might be good enough, and it's not like everyone owns the Arcade versions

>>3661508
Because it really isn't as great as everyone is getting an erection over it, it's overrated, there are better RPG's FAR better ones

>>3662131
Keith Courage is garbage. It being a pack-in game was yet another one of NEC's dumb decisions relating to the American PC-Engine launch. It should have had Blazing Lazers instead.

So any good convetional turn-based JRPGs on PCE? There's a lot of beautiful and fun to play action RPGs, but what about regular ones?

>>3661756
I love Soldier Blade for regular Hu-Card. Sadly, I cannot afford it for my Duo (it is recapped now despite image title). I have to settle for it on PSP and PS3, but it is amazing not just graphically but audio-wise as well coming from just the base PC-Engine.

>>3662736
>angsty teens having an opinion in front of me

>>3662736
TTI gave a lot of stuff with the system just to get people to buy it. The Duo came with Gate of Thunder, Ys Books 1&2, Bonk's Adventure, Bonk's Revenge, Ninja Spirit, and Bomberman (accessed with input code). I think those were outstanding pack-in games.

>>3662782
How's your Japanese?

>>3662782
There's an exclusive wRPG, Order of the Griffon. That amuses me, I wonder what the sales were like.

>>3662090
>most pc engine ports have those things like gradius has an extra level. rtype has an extra boss
I wish it were easier to find information like this. Ghouls n Ghosts seems like a 100% straight port, unfortunately with limited credits. Shinobi apparently cut the whole second level out (of an already short game). I didn't know about R-Type because I can't get that far :(

>>3661847
>Splatterhouse has a new hard mode (harder than arcade)
I think the arcade version is still harder (more onscreen enemies at points) but it's still nice to give the PCE version a spin sometimes. You get the red mask and different design for the church boss too.

>>3662852
I was talking about the console's initial launch, not when they were desperately trying to keep it from dying (around 1992).

>>3662869
>You get the red mask and different design for the church boss too.
only for the USA version

>>3662803
I have heard people call Soldier Blade the best shmup on the normal Turbografx/PC-Engine, and in general one of the best games on the console, if not the best. Is it really that good?

>>3662782
Startling Odyssey II is the only one that's translated

Cyber Knight is pretty far along.

The Tengai Makyou games are considered the cream of the crop, in the turn based genre

I've also heard amazing things about Anearth Fantasy Stories, Gulliver Boy, and Sol Moonarge

>>3663106
Legend of Heroes 1 was also localized. Unlike the previous Dragon Slayer games it was turn based.

>>3662782
>>3663106
>>3663110
If we're abandoning the thread's hucard requirement, there's Cosmic Fantasy II in English
>good
Maybe not

>>3663209
There weren't really many Hu-Card RPGs since RPGs would generally profit from the options on the CD.
https://refuge.tokyo/pcengine/tg16/RPG.html

>>3661515
the PC-Engine in general was probably the weakest console overall in terms of library, that is why people lump the Turbo CD in with it. Heck, its arguable that the Turbo CD actually had a better library than the card-based Turbografx.

>>3661374
came here to post blazing lazers and allen crush. some of the most amazing musics and gameplay mechanics of their time. bombermen '94 is the epitome of 2d bombermen games, too bad I can't get my brothers to play it with me except the one on dremcast.

>>3663259
Next you're going to make the outrageous claim that the Japanese library is stronger than the American one.

>>3663274
It was...

>>3663094
It's definitely up there. As mentioned it has impressive graphics as it keeps throwing new things at you, and you are seeing new sprites/tiles all the time. Its music is catchy and it has a few spoken voices which are pretty good considering it's coming from just the Hu-Card (and these sampled voices impressed me back then). On the normal setting, the game will feel easy, as it carries you along, you go from wondering how you could ever die, then as you progress suddenly towards the last couple stages it actually shows what it can really throw at you. The game is not a bullet hell danmaku game, but features just the joy of moving around destroying everything, which is less common these days. It is paced very well to give a very enjoyable experience. I wish I could get the TurboChip, but that is way beyond my means, so I settle for the collection on PSP UMD and digitally from PSN to play on PS3. I did muster up enough during the Thanksgiving holiday to purchase a Turbo Everdrive (it is the cheapest krikizz offers) and you can bet I'll be enjoying Soldier Blade (Coryoon and Magical Chase).

>>3663259
I think the HuCard library is pretty strong, but that's the beauty of the system, if one adds CD-ROM, Super CD-ROM, and/or Arcade CD-ROM games, the library becomes outstanding. Of the TurboChips (my Duo and TurboExpress are not modded to play import HuCards), I was pretty happy with as they have helped me through a long road trip, that is some decent strength to me, all that limits me now from enjoying more is funds, I hate being poor.

>>3663616
What would you rank as the Top 5 best games for the Turbo (Hu-Card) and the Top 5 for the CD?

>>3663259
CD platform was great for RPGs and shooters, but was total ass in regards to arcade ports or platformers

Rondo was the only really good CD platformer. Possibly the best on the whole system, although both new adventure island and Bonk 2 are also in that legendary tier. Chiki chiki boys and valis I were decent CD games I guess

Also a big lack of Taito and Namco games on the CD platform

CD was quality over quantity. You have Rondo, Ys, Xanadu, GoT, LoT, River City Ransom, Spriggan, and not a whole lot else, other than a ton of RPGs that are unplayable unless you know Japanese. People always name the same usual suspects like the n64

>>3663674
>but was total ass in regards to arcade ports or platformers
I disagree, there were games that are equal or even surpassed the arcade versions

>>3661313
I'm never going to be able to afford collectiong for the Turbo Grafx 16 in the near future but I want to play some of these games. I have emulators for the NES, SNES, GENESIS and GB and they work fine on my PC (Which isn't that great)

My questions are, what is a good emulator for the Turbografx and will it run on my average PC?

>>3663728
Magic Engine is the best but you have to pay for it

Mednafen is pretty popular, and is the core used in the Openemu multi emulator on Mac

>>3661374
Ah yes.

>>3661313
Why never ever any love for Falcon?

Dragon Egg
PC Kid aka Bonk's Adventure games
Doraemon games
Parodius
pretty much all the shooters are good
Neutopia games
Dragon's Trap
New Adventure Island
New Zealand Story
Parasol Stars

and to a lesser extent Puzzle Boy.
There's stuff I am missing, and I never did play any of the CD ones, which the Castlevania and Ys ones are supposed to be the best versions out there, so there's that.

>>3661508
Because he's a hipster who's mad he didn't grow up with the game. Chrono Trigger is better than every PC Engine game but together

>>3661481
>Talks shit about Chrono Trigger
>list has nothing but mediocre drivel and arcade ports

The Ys series on turbo is great.

The Ys III soundtrack blows my mind on turbocd.

>>3664119
>>3664036
>butthurt chrono niggers
tell me how chrono trigger isn't mediocore

>>3664565

Chrono Trigger is the best JRPG.

>>3661313

Parasol Stars is excellent and worth picking up today. Hu-Card format.

>>3663768
>Magic Engine is the best

Untranslated Visual Novels/ Eroge.

>>3663628
That's the problem with me. I can rank things as they are all excellent to me. Also there's so much I have not played which are excellent. Also it is not hard for me to enjoy a game, all I expect is when I push a button, shit happens, and I will be entertained.

On HuCard I've had great memories of Splatterhouse, Ninja Spirit, Air Zonk, Soldier Blade, Military Madness, Blazing Lazers, Legenday Axe, Bomberman '94, Alien & Devil's Crush, pretty much all the usual suspects ... I can't wait to get in the Turbo Everdrive because I tried Coryoon and Magical Chase on emulation and I absolutely love them. I have a soft spot for Aldynes which was so desirable to me back in the late 90s and to find it plays great also makes it stand out to me. (I also realize I forgot to get the Star Soldier Collection out for the pic, which is excellent).

On CD, it is overloaded with stuff I love like the Ys games (I still wish the PCE 4 was the canon one), Cotton, Spriggan, Cosmic Fantasy 2 (just for love at first sight of Cadette Babbette/Rimu), Ginga Fukei Densetsu Sapphire, Syphia, Gate & Winds of Thunder, Rondo, Frey, Popful Mail, and I forgot the ninja game I played but never owned, there's just too much that I do enjoy (I even like the strip mahjong games, and adventure games). So you see it is too difficult for me to rank anything, I am also probably forgetting a lot too since this is off the top of my head.

Almost every system I can find a game I like for various reasons. My friends know me to enjoy crap games, so now you understand my dilemma. (Also Chrono Trigger is one of my most favorite games, but it is not on a PCE HuCard to my knowledge, did someone make a homebrew I am unaware of, because I'd love the ROM once I get in the Turbo Everdrive)

>>3664605
cannot* ...

I cannot rank things ...

>>3664569
because?

>>3664605
you have enough to buy paper to attention whore here

>>3664642
Yeah, I can afford paper, good free-ish fun. I have made paper airplanes, drawn on them, and write stuff on it. Great retro fun which kids have better now, but I still enjoy it.

>>3664642
Being poor means having to make do with what I have. I even enjoy reading on paper too. Learned about some really good HuCards that way. Those days are long gone now, but it's better now with the information highway with paper being obsolete.

how is the resolution on virtual console turbografx games? i heard they added a blur filter to most of the titles, and have a 480i resolution. the later turbografx virtual console games such as castlevania rondo of blood, ys book 1 and 2, bomberman 94 dont have the blur filter and run at 240p.

Vaseel
Cosmic Fantasy II
Ys 1/2/3
Lords of Thunder

>>3661313
Listing shmups makes every list look the same, so here's a list of action platformer that are hu-card games worth playing:

Legend of Hero Tonma
New Adventure Island
Jackie Chan's Action Kung-Fu
Ninja Spirit
Legendary Axe I / II (I personally prefer II)
Son Son 2
Legend of Valkyrie
Shubibinman 2
Dragon Egg
JJ and Jeff / Kato and Ken
Cyber Cross
Cross Wiber

>>3664565
>Posts >>3661481 full of mediocre games
>calls CT mediocre

you're stupid lol

>>3662736
Opinions are like assholes. Yours is full of shit.

>>3665520
Tell me why Chrono Trigger is a must-play

>>3665536
Not that guy, but Keith Courage is pretty meh

If you want another Hudson pce game that's like KC except 10 times better, play Momotaro Katsugeki

>>3664639

The characters, the music, the world map, the time traveling, the plot, the fun factor, the graphics, and its the perfect RPG for beginners.

>>3661313

The best 3 shmups on the system are all Hu-Card format.

Blazing Lazers
Soldier Blade
Super Star Soldier

>>3666337
>Keith Courage is pretty meh
How would you know? You've only watched the first 30 seconds of a LP.

Rondo of Blood and Gate of Thunder are the only worthwhile games.

>>3666587
>implying vertical shmups are good

>>3666584
Live A Live is better in every way

>>3667326
Don't assume things you fucking retard.

>>3667584
No assumptions made kiddo. If you wanted more than 30 seconds of that LP you'd know they were nothing alike beyond that.