/vr/ - Retro Games

=== NEWS ===

[12-4] Arcane Dimensions v1.5 for Quake released
https://twitter.com/SimsOCallaghan/status/805343155092680704

[12-4] One anon made a music mod, using OGG format
https://mega.nz/#!3pl0DIIR!xhINj4Ps0m265me6n84Ujc8qjU0OzA8pLudeQEzAXZ0

[12-3] Smooth Doom revived with a bugfix update; plans to add in Doom64 plasma weaponry later
http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=45550

[12-1] 'No End In Sight', an Ultimate Doom megawad
https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom/Ports/megawads/neis

[11-29] RIP Steven Hornback, former Apogee/3D Realms artist
https://twitter.com/3drealms/status/803363758605299713

[11-27] The Macbook Pro's touch bar runs Doom
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GD0L46y3IqI

[11-22] Retro Jam 5, a Wind Tunnel-themed map pack for Quake
http://celephais.net/board/view_thread.php?id=61377

[11-19] MetaDoom v2.0 is out
http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=53010

[[11-19] Custom Gun: The Gun-ening. Done by the Hexen Souls author
http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=54303

[11-14] Doom 64-style map textures for Doom 2
http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=37&t=54248

[11-13] Blade of Agony Chapter 1 release
http://www.moddb.com/mods/wolfendoom-blade-of-agony/news/blade-of-agony-chapter-1-released

[11-9] Suddenly a Russian Overkill update
http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=29915&p=953003#p953003

[11-9] RIP Malinku, Doom mapper
https://www.doomworld.com/vb/everything-else/91549-user-malinku-was-murdered/

[11-7] Total Chaos, a GZDoom total total total conversion, has alpha release
http://www.moddb.com/mods/total-chaos

[11-7] Someone else is making a Doom 4 mod for Doom, called ''Zion''.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Evd4teWlJo

[11-5] SYNTH DOOM, anon-made 80s inspired retro music mod
https://mega.nz/#!KlBiAJDC!PuPUNjIjKdqK6NISzhQlWs8I7hUIrIkpvSuOyRnH4uE


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Is it really true that people used to create ONE HOUR LONG videos in the Quake engine?

>>3657396
No.
They made FOUR HOUR LONG videos.

>new Arcane Dimensions uses a new Shambler model
Oh god fucking kill it with nails, it's hideous.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pdr9dwCKDew

STRAFE still looking good
>inb4 procgen = shite

>>3657404
>fucking kill it with nails
A good plan, shamblers have 50% rocket resist

Here's a speedmap I just made. Has a custom monster.
http://s000.tinyupload.com/index.php?file_id=54167349761399082413

>>3657415
It'll get me off from using OBLIGE so much at least

>>3657423
Didn't they make OBLIGE great again?

By which I mean OBLIGE for the first time ever started producing borderline playable levels

>>3657428
>>3657423
Also I've a feeling STRAFE is using good ol' make 200 prefab rooms and stitch them together randomly method of procgen

Which, unless your game is grid based, is the only sane option of doing it

>>3657428
It doesn't make slaughtermaps anymore if that's what you're asking. It can still get very samey and there are some quirks I'm not big on but it's still a drastic improvement.

>>3657415
>A good plan, shamblers have 50% rocket resist
that'sthejoke.tga

also strife looks like shiut

MARINE,

Grab your plasma rifle. Those white coats over at the Hubris labs really did it this time. Some kind of... test subject.. has taken over their mainframe and now has complete control of the sector. All communication with the security squads has been met with silence.. or screaming. Your orders are to eliminate all hostiles and shut down their main control terminal. Here are your teleport coordinates:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/n3l6f32py83m3s5/Hubris%20Containment%20Sector%20%28Final%29.wad?dl=0

You have been granted permission from upstairs to use our new upgraded weaponry, simply select ALTERNATE upon mission start.

God speed soldier.

-Sarge

This map would not exist without your help. Thank you all, I hope you enjoy it! There are 4 secrets, none of them require wall humping. Good luck!

>>3657434
I've last used oblige... must've been no later than 2009, it was reliably churning out simple layouts while managing to look like heated up puke

Goes to show if you keep developing something for 8+ years eventually it will turn out pretty alright through sheer dumb luck if nothing else

Also, doom hardly needs a level generator when you have 2 human made maps in first 15 posts of a doom thread on kambodian knitting forum
>>3657417
>>3657445

>>3657415
>inb4 procgen = shite
procgen = shite

>>3657445

Cool, I'll play it.

Name your top three (or five) favorite retro FPS games. Let's hear some opinions and see what games are generally liked the most.

>>3657476
Quake
Quake
Quake
Quake
QUT99

>>3657476
Doom
Blood
Duke Nukem
Quake
Outlaws

>>3657476
Doom
Doom II: Hell on Earth
Quake
Quake III Arena
UT99

>>3657476
I would think most people here are going to choose Doom, Quake and then either Duke, Heretic, or Blood.

I'm actually more curious to what you guys really enjoyed in more recent years. For me it was Left 4 Dead 2, Killing Floor 2, and Planetside 2.

>>3657476
Doom
Quake
Duke3d
Blood (although dogcocks fucking kills it)
Half-Life

>>3657486
d44m
team fortress 2
wolf tob (tno is eh)
titanfall 2 campaign
GTA V (first person camera mode)

>>3657486

You sure about Heretic? While there are people who like it, I don't think it'd be on most top 5 lists.

>>3657476
Doom
Unreal
UT99
Chex Quest, just for being the best damn thing every placed inside a box of cereal
Quake

>>3657486
Metroid Prime
UT2k4
I haven't actually played any FPS more recent than those two.

>>3657486
I honestly don't know any other "modern" FPS I've played recently other than Mount & Blade and maybe a bit of Serious Sam: The First Encounter (which is already pushing it, as it's quite old in itself)

Come to think of it, maybe STALKER: Shadow of Chernobyl as well? Haven't really gotten into that one quite yet either...

>>3657491
I disagree.

>>3657486
filthy dumb terran scum

>>3657476

Unreal
Doom
Quake
Descent
Nerf Arena Blast

>>3657501
you have solved one eighth of the laser removal clinic quest

>>3657476
Descent
Doom
Unreal
Marathon

>>3657486
FEAR is the most fun I have had with a recent fps.

>>3657404
Oh god it has like weird abs and toes now fucking kill it

>>3657387
>Let's post li-HUUUUUUUUH

>>3657476
Duke Nukem 3D
Quake
Doom

I'd like to try Unreal one day.

>>3657476
Doom
Thief (if you count it)
Unreal
Trespasser
Probably HL or Day of Defeat or something. Something obvious I'm missing.

>>3657559
>tfw Starry Cacos Over the Rhone will never be the OP pic

How I go designing a Doom drinking game?

>Take a sip each time you see the ouch face

>>3657415
procgen = shite

>>3657569
I will make it so next thread.

I have absolutely no idea about zdoom and other modern stuff. What is the best way to play Doom, Heretic, Hexen and Q1 on modern PC? With original resolution graphics, old textures, but with music in Q1 and preferably remastered music in Doom.

>>3657597
>I have absolutely no idea about zdoom and other modern stuff.

Now is a good time to get learned, friend.
Check out the "SO YOU WANT TO PLAY SOME..." section in the OP.

>>3657597
Chocolate Doom is the closest you can get to playing Doom like the original exe. I've heard of Chocolate Heretic and Hexen as well.
For Quake 1, the best port to use is Quakespasm but there's also Qbism if you want it to look pretty much like the DOS exe.

>>3657597

ZDoom or GZDoom for DOOM/Heretic/HeXen with remastered music (good luck finding any for Heretic or HeXen though), QuakeSpasm for Quake I with music.

>>3657597
>What is the best way to play Doom, Heretic, Hexen and Q1 on modern PC?

Definitely either ZDoom or GZDoom, no doubt abou

>With original resolution graphics, old textures

Ah, well if you're looking for a more "authentic" experience, I would suggest either Chocolate Doom or PrBoom+ for Doom, Heretic, and Hexen

And as for Q1, Quakespasm is your best bet.

>>3657601
oh fuck I'm blind
(-_-;)

>>3657605
>(-_-;)

wew lad

>>3657597
Best way to go around Q1 solo is Quakespasm. More information in the OP.

>Remastered music in Doom

You can use the BASSMIDI frontend + soundfont to improvise the quality of the original MIDI files, though there are some pre-recorded versions somewhere done from a real SC-55.

>>3657602
>>3657603
>>3657604
thanks guys

>>3657597
>>3657603
>(good luck finding any for Heretic or HeXen though)
Try this guy's stuff:
http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=48937

>>3657610
I'm looking forward to his TNT cover

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-StbF_XDGU

>>3657415
>coming to PS4
So I guess it's not coming to PC then?

>>3657607
>not listed: GZDoom

how old is that image?

>>3657615
Try reading

>>3657476
Unreal
Heretic
Doom
Duke3D
Blood

In that order.

>>3657614
>So I guess it's not coming to PC then?
No, it means it's not coming to xbone. Or that it's coming to xbone a month later.

Windows/Mac/Linux still on.

>>3657613
I like it, but the guitars feel way too loud in comparison to everything else, they also feel a bit... harsh, I suppose? But otherwise this sounds cool.

>>3657476
Blood
Quake
Quake 2
Aliens versus Predator (1999)
Half Life

Not including Doom/Doom 2 cause I only like post release versions. Go play chocodoom and tell me it's as good as zdoom with free aim.

Doomfag here, wanting to play some Quake.

So, I grabbed Quake from GoG and found a tutorial how to get the music working in Quakespasm. But how about music in single player maps from Quaddicted? I definitely want to play Arcane Dimensions. Youtube videos of that campaign have no music at all. Doesn't it have it's own soundtrack? Or will it use the original quake music one I set that up?

>>3657634
Well, it's something different at least. That and if it's like his other covers, you'll be able to load it with other mapsets and not just TNT. Wonder how he'll handle MAP31's music.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zFT0We5tKnM..

>>3657637
You didn't even need to download it off of GoG. There's a fully working install of it ready to play in the 2nd Quake pastebin in the OP.

>>3657637
I have the GoG version of Quake too (got it because of the included expansions) and the music works just fine with Quakespasm.

Don't know why it's not just werking on your machine -- are you trying to add custom music?

>>3657637
You can drop the original soundtrack into it, or any ogg vorbis (I miss it when games used vorbis sound, nowadays it's fucking uncompressed waveform to save 2% APU load on consoles) music

Woops, posted in an old bread

>>3656779

I have.

>>3657404
Yeah, it's awful. It doesn't even look like it's covered in fur like it's supposed to.

>>3657657

i know it's supposed to be fur, but it still looks like skin to me on the default model desu

>>3657657
Looks more fleshy, like a Khezu but just bloodier

only just realised it was 10 years ago that Toke died in a car crash

I'm still sad about that

>>3657665
the best part about the stock quake models is it can go either way, and it's up to your mind to fill it in how it wants to, which is fitting for the setting

i always thought the shambler had big hooves, for example, not feet, so the new model looks REALLY shit to me

I tired chocolate doom, but it only runs at 30fps
Any way to fix it?

>>3657735

yes, install zdoom

>>3657651
saw climbing will never stop being fucking hilarious.

>>3657735
It's not supposed to go over the vanilla hard coded limit. Play prboom instead.

Is it normal that the animations in Quake are bad? I have honestly no idea.

>>3657735

The DOOM engine is locked to 35 FPS, and Chocolate Doom tries to mimic it as close as possible.
If you want a vanilla-ish experience but with an uncapped framerate, try Crispy Doom (I think that uncaps the framerate) or PrBoom+.

>>3657736
anon I tried
can't stand opengl graphics

>>3657741
>>3657747
vanilla had 35fps limit?

>>3657746
Quake had non skeletal animation with manually made frames afaik

>>3657746

What do you mean, exactly? Are you referring to the minimal frames of animation when not using interpolation?

>>3657746
Perhaps you mean you're not using animation interpolation, i.e monsters move all twitchy? Should be able to toggle that.

>>3657657
Looks good to me, more definition to toes would be nice. You've not seen awful 3D models if you think that's bad.

You have been warned.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mCigiEuRvrA

>>3657735
Doom engine runs at 35 fps. The trade off being it runs on an i486 with 8MB RAM.

>>3657748
>can't stand opengl graphics
zdoom doesn't use opengl, it has a software renderer just like the original.

>>3657748
Aren't all animations manually made?

>>3657749
????

>>3657750
Yeah, that's that. They move like Mr Game&Watch in Super Smash Bro.

>>3657754
I confused it with gzdoom then

>>3657751
>Looks good to me, more definition to toes would be nice.
Are you a footfag?

Question about Quake 2:

Are the files in the OP pastebin dump already patched to v 2.3 for use with Yamagi?

>>3657748
Yes. The Doom engine is capped at 35fps by default, and all game logic runs at 35 "gametics" a second. Source ports like ZDoom allow for higher framerates by interpolating between each gametic.

do you need 4 runes for the secret AD level?

Finally, a mod that's a good middle ground between HD and RGA2. The weapons feel good to use despite the lack of first person sprites because of the good weapon sounds and nicely done recoil.

any christmas-themed wads that worth a play?

>>3657782
Yup. I'll save you some trouble from searching every level- the maps with runes are Crucial Error, Foggy Bogbottom, Obsessive Brick Disorder and Lavatomb.

The latter two are great, the first two are eh to lame.

>>3657765
>Are you a footfag?
No, just not a big fan of flat textures trying to substitute for geometry

>>3657785
don't say what mod it is or anything

>>3657751
I think I'm gonna puke

>>3657792
I vastly prefer Crucial Error over Lavatomb. The latter is too much like a Painkiller map with all the arena combat. It also feels like it was two maps connected together by a big courtyard rather than an interconnected whole. I think the map should have went straight to the final arena segment the moment you reached the courtyard; the other side of the map just felt like filler.

>>3657805
>not a big fan of flat textures trying to substitute for geometry
where do you think we are

>>3657657
Not a fan of the elephant feet it has. I always thought it had hooves or something.

>>3657807
http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=54460

Sorry, it's a bad habit from browsing /v/ too much

>>3657805
>not a big fan of flat textures trying to substitute for geometry
You don't belong here.

>>3657813
HAHAHA GUESS WHAT? I FUCKED UP THE MAPS. It's not Lavatomb that has the rune, it's Firetop Mountain. I agree that Lavatomb is boring and disjointed, definitely feels like two maps meshed together and definitely not too pretty at that.

I'm vice versa- I thought Crucial Error dragged on too long and STILL got lost occasionally even on my second run of it post-1.5- that, and the author changed a few things with the update so clever players can't just rocketjump to the secrets anymore. Aside from that, the keycards you collect for the rune don't show up at all unless you've already been to the rune room entrance- which is hidden behind a grate in a vent, completely identical to EVERY SINGLE DECORATIVE VENT in the map and NOT like the vents you can break which have a very distinct crack going through where you can see the room or hallway behind them.

On the other hand, Firetop felt like it flows really well and has a number of nice touches and events (the Ring of Shamblers and the teleport to the start of the map once you've beaten the boss so you don't have to manually trek all the way back), and the story for the rune was neat, as well as how it was shown to the player- even if you don't spot the apparition leading you to the start of it, you can still find the bones (in the vents/cells) and books (platforms), just not interact with them- which means when you DO activate the rune route, you already know where to go.

That's just my opinion, though. We can all agree the best map is Necromancer's Keep.

>>3657825
>necromancer's keep
no lmao, tedious as fuck

>>3657828
better than crucial error

the most crucial error was including it in the mod LMQO (laughign my quad off)

>>3657825
The best map would be either the E2M2 remix or Arcane Monstrosity.

>>3657823
>>3657815
The irony of the situation is not lost on me, HOWEVER

If you're gonna remake models, do it properly

>>3657835
I think you just want to see Shambly's fuzzy clawed toes.

new blood game when?

>>3657836
just because I browse /tv/eddit when I'm bored doesn't mean I have a foot fetish you kunt

just installed slade, and why the fuck does it attempt to launch gzdoom when I try to compile ACS? It's pointed to acc.exe in the GZDoom Builder folder.

>>3657858
Apparently this version doesn't like me having my gzdb folder in a subfolder of were gzdoom.exe lies.

What the fuck

>>3657486
Super Hot is nice, definitely better than CoD.

>>3657445
Oi, my ZDOOM doesn't run the frakking thing. Says PLAYPAL not found. What gives?

>>3657486
TF2, CSGO, Planetside 2, SUPERHOT... currently rocking a bunch of Titanfall 2.

>>3657837
Soon as never ever.

Is there a way on Slade to make attachable objects(obstacles) with multiple sprites so that for example a picture on a wall is seen from multiple sides and not just one rotating sprite/part of the wall's texture?

why the fuck do I have unplayable FPS when I try inquisitor

>>3658015
update your drivers.

>>3658003
Yeah
>http://zdoom.org/wiki/sprite#Angles

>>3657486
Rainbow 6 Siege.

>>3657404
I like it.

Guys! guys!

Just tried something:

Adessa.wad + Lasting light

At midnight it gives the worst of the creeps. But because the maps are empty, there is no way to refill the light

Only now did I find out that the tower of babel is being built as you progress through The Shores of Hell.

>>3658128
wow never noticed that, that's pretty cool, what does it mean?

>>3658134
demons are crafty.

probably a bunch of imps being ordered around by barons.

>>3658134
probably some biblical reference

>>3658142
in bible it was the gateway to heaven and in doom it's the gateway to hell

>>3658154
actually the intermission says Deimos is already in hell, floating, you rappel down at the end of e2m8.

doomguy goes to hell at the end of e1m8.

>>3658158
so the marines succesfully set up a few bases in hell before being BTFO'd?

>>3658163
no, deimos is on one of mars's moons
and
"Before the game, Deimos is teleported out of its orbit to float above Hell."

>>3658163
>so the marines succesfully set up a few bases in hell
no, Deimos is a moon on Mars, like Phobos the UAC also had set up bases there. The teleportation experiment started in Deimos and is where the demons first invaded, they transported the moon to Hell.

>>3657771
>probably a bunch of imps being ordered around by barons.
that sounds cute

I wonder if imps would reply to every command with that 'MOOOO' sound they make and go 'wackwack' when they move around with the building materials

>>3658178
whoops, misquoted

>>3658136

is there a doom stealth wad?

is there a wad that will let me kill my university professors?

>>3657825
Not even close, Terror Fuma is the best by far.

>green water
>doesn't damage you

>>3658128
Doom is one of those games where after all those years and replays you still notice new shit like this

after all these years...

>>3658301
>red (((water)))
>you were supposed to casually run over it to finish the map

>>3658308
>this image is posted in every thread.

You're not funny.

>>3658316
Look, I'm not renaming the filename ok? Stop getting your panties in a knot

>>3658308
oh so it's the cuckodemon, I get it

>>3658316
It's almost a tradition at this point to post it.

>>3658339
It's almost a tradition to post cuck porn every thread?

>>3658350
The act itself is already tradition in your household

>>3658339
Because you have nothing better to post?

>>3658358
but cacos a qt! CUTE!

Post good single player doom 2 mods.

Also why do so many dislike brutal doom?

>>3658389
too popular.

>>3658360
shamblers are cuter than cacos but are severely unappreciated

>>3657993
only works with GZDoom it seems mate

>>3658389
Overdoes it. It feels like a kid's first mod, with 100000x more bullets per bullets, 999999999x more blood, and 20x more stolen assets and bitching.

>>3657445
tfw nobody has reviewed the map you worked so hard on :(

>>3658416
so were you looking for a review or for people to play it?

First was brutal doom, then brutal doom 64 came afterwards.
So how long until brutal chex is announced ?

>>3658418
yes

>>3658432
Chexquest was the shit as a kid. Like wtf there's a VIDEO GAME in my cereal box!?

I wonder when someone will call "hellsmith1" out on his rampant mythomania.

>>3658448
Too bad that the game is a shit.

>>3658449
nani

>>3658432
Brutal Heretic when?
I want to desintegrate enemies with my necromancers gauntlets.

>>3658458
>Brutal Heretic
>not brutal hexen
Shit taste

>>3658462
Heretic has the wider variety of weapons and monsters though. It's far better for a gameplay mod.

>>3658462
cough.

So should Doom be played with freelook or not?

>>3658489
only if you're playing with opengl.

>>3658489
If you want the "authentic experience", no.

>>3658462
Brutal Hexen exists.
And Heretic is more fun desu.

>>3658489
Preference, really. Doom doesn't exactly have vertical aiming.

why was the doom movie so god-tier?

>>3658506
Me personally, I find it weird if I move my mouse left and right but it never moves up or down slightly. It's useless, but I need it

Kind of like jumping, I need a jump button. I will never use it to exploit level designs, but it feels so weird to me not being able to jump when I'm running long distances without combat

>>3657748
>cant stand opengl graphics

Easy Fix. Open GZDoom

Display Options
OpenGL Options
Texture Options

Set texture filter mode to None.

>>3658551
you think that's the only thing opengl does?

the actual fix would be vid_renderer 0 in the console.

>>3658301
>blue water
>damages you

>>3658484
>shield in hexen

wtf

>>3658489
I allow freelok as long as autoaim is disabled, that way it still takes admittedly minimal effort to shot enemies down

>>3658561
>throwing parts of the environment in hexen
wtf.

>>3657787
H2H 24 or something like that
I don't quite remember the name and I'm not home

I know I played 2 wads last year. One you play as Santa, and one has a weird "how the hamburglar stole Christmas" cover or something

>>3658567
>"how the hamburglar stole Christmas

literally what

>>3658563
>in hexen
wtf

>>3658557
but that puts it in Software mode.
OpenGL minus the Filters is best, then you still have the software aesthetic, but can look all the way up and down in mouselook, which you can't do in Software mode.

>>3658573
>but that puts it in Software mode.
duh, anon says he doesn't like opengl graphics, textures aren't the only thing that makes opengl look like that, the lighting especially.

>>3658573
>OpenGL minus the Filters is best, then you still have the software aesthetic,
Nooooooooo, that's not what the software aesthetic is.

Why is hexen so terrible?

>>3658591
bad level design.

>>3658591
quoth the raven

>>3658301
>Red water/Brown Water
>Doesn't have any indication of it being harmful
>Damages you

Either use the yellow Toxic texture around those areas, or just use green liquid and lava for damaging floors

>>3658489
What I usually do is if I'm playing the classic doom levels I always disable free look. If I'm playing a fan wad I'll usually enable free look. I'm okay with either. Jump is always disabled for me tho.

>>3658598
>the yellow Toxic texture
??

>>3658608
The hazard sign.

>>3658608
I meant to say yellow Poison sign texture

>>3658591
Its repetitive as fuck and confusing due the puzzles that force you to back track a lot and few weapon choices.

>A third of the puzzle has been solved in seven portals

>>3658591
It had to compete with Heretic which is the better game.

>>3658594
I kind of liked the level design after the boring first hub. What kills it for me is only having 4 weapons.

>>3658591
>Horrid level design
>Shitty obscure puzzles
>Super limited arsenal
>Annoying monsters

I'll take Heretic over Hexen any day of the week.

>>3657748
>>3658557
>>3658573
>>3658578
>>3658587
Problem Solved.
Sector light settings and Tonemap mode can be found in OpenGL settings.

Have fun, DoomBro, GZDoom for Life

>>3658648
all those look the same...

>>3658573
If you want software A E S T H E T I C S you need to not only disable filtering, but also set sector lighting mode to Software, use Palette tonemap AND use Retroshader on autoload(don't forget to enable lens distortion in-game and disable posterising in the config file inside the pk3).

>>3658651
I'm unfamiliar with Retroshader
I don't think Doom had lens distortion

>>3658656
Retroshader is here: http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=53250
Also, GZDoom does have lens distortion.

>>3658659
>A mod that causes glitchy ugly distortions, seeing through corners, and other forms of shit graphics that I am glad to see the back of
I give up.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FTsDWAsUgy8

>>3658664
>seeing through corners
>glitchy ugly distortions
where?

>>3658241
I agree. Maybe it's not as eyecandy as the others maps, but TF has more flow and feels good to just exploring

>>3658665

Cool, now I don't even have to aim or care about monsters at all anymore, they'll just automatically die.

>>3657445
Prolly one of the best single level wads I've ever played. Impressive variety of tricks n traps and the boss fight was tits

>>3658687
This vid from a few month back
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PInaFaVPKbE

>>3658693
Terra Fuma is eyecandy as fuck, especially with the glass canopies and all the custom machinery and computery stuff.

>>3658709

Strange. Can't say I've experienced that in my own playthroughs.

>>3658716
I'm more a lovecraft guy than a base guy. Not saying TF looks bad or anything

>>3657476
Doom
Doom 64
Duke3d
Two-rock
Half-life

>>3657486
DOOM
ArmA3
S.T.A.L.K.E.R.
Fallout NV
Doom 3

>>3658735
what kind of game is "Two-rock"?

I can't seem to find anything about it

>>3658742
Turok.

>>3658742
Turok : The Dinosaur Hunter
It was on the N64 but has recently gotten a new PC re-port.

>>3658742
the sequel to Will Rock

>>3658742
Will Rock 2.

>>3658742
>there are people in this day and age that haven't played Will Rock and Two Rock

why even live

>>3658489
I usually allow freelook when playing zdoom wads, but not with Boom/Vanilla wads.

>>3658751
Is that a serious sam clone?

>>3657476
Doom
Duke 3D
Half-Life
Return To Castle Wolfenstein
Blood

>>3657486
Far Cry 3
Rage (despite all of it's flaws)
New Vegas
SWAT 4
Morrowind

>>3658780
Yeah rage was pretty fun, I think the biggest flaw was how it ended so prematurely though

>>3658780
>Rage
Another person who liked that game!

>>3658783
Too short, and no satisfying endboss, but fuck, using the wingsticks was fun as fuck.

>>3658790
desu I barely remember anything about the game besides that the fights with mutants were fun

>>3657404
>>3657657
>New Shambler model that is only slightly more high poly, and with a touched up skin.
>looks higher res than the original model, but doesn't look out of place in the game.
>Basically, an "HD update" done right, unlike Doom's many attempts at doing "HD sprites" who not only failed, but also looked terrible
>"OMG, IT SUCKS!!! IT'S NOT MUH ORIGINAL SHAMBLER!"

You hardcore purists can go eat a dick. Say what you will about you preferring to use the original Quake model, but at least give credit where credit is due, they did a great job on that model.
>but it doesn't have fur!
>It's supposed to have fur!
>And that's not what the feet are supposed to be!

And how can you be so sure judging from such a low only model like that from the vanilla Quake? You saw fur in the Shambler, but the guy who made the new model didn't. You saw hooves, but the new guy didn't. It's hard to interpret such nuances in a low-res monster like that, and as far as I know, there's no Quake 1 concept art to prove which interpretation is right or wrong.

>>3658806
Basically, you had an item (not a weapon), that you would throw at the enemies. It was a guaranteed oneshot on unarmoured enemies, and later upgrades would even give it a chance to not break upon use.
I fucking love it, the sound it made was so damn satisfying. It was "woosh-bzzzzZZZZZ CRUNCH OH GOD MY FACE".

>>3658813
found the artist

>>3658823
>found the autist
ftfy

>>3658648
>using OpenGL
>but not enjoying the unlimited colors
Nah

>>3658709
Those distortions aren't from the retroshader, that's a separate added effect made to mimic the wobbly polygon rendering of the PS1

>>3658874
why tho

>>3658869
>not appreciating the crispness of 256 colors

>>3658881
Some people like that in an ironic way.

>>3658884
>>crispness
>graphic isn't fullbright
>graphic bleeds out in increasingly less colors
I like being able to see the beautiful texture and sprite work, thank you.

>>3658451
not him but I'm guessing this?
http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=26733&start=24255#p959013

>>3658903
>"Hello this is Richards again just to let you guys know that Hellsmith1 is doing ok and the doctor told us that he does not have a concoction"
Someone tell that retard hellsmith not to mix concussion (a blunt trauma) and concoction (a medicine).
He obviously never saw a doctor.

>>3658907
he later posts that Hellsmith fell into a coma
http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=26733&p=960004&sid=3a00d70ae43084f17b6eed512c9e7d0e#p959989

wtf is this shit

>>3658917
> the police found the hit and run person Boy I'm glad that he's not around me because I'll mess him up really bad
Wooo we have a tough internet guy.

>>3657445
Mission accomplished. Area 99% cleared; there's still some hard-to-shoot thing in the sewers. If you hear weird musical humming, lock and load.

Pretty damn good time, for a killfest. Though tell R&D that trying to emulate wireframe VR needs a more abrupt transition than that, and as usual, quit trying to weaponize the demons.

Definitely something to show the rookies. 8/10.

>>3658917
Did he ever do something besides being an attention whore ?

How do I activate frames transitions in Quake? Enemies moving around really creeps me out.

>>3658917
He made a bajillion posts about his various sick relatives while asking for sympathy before that. And no one can call him out on it without seeming like a turbo-dick.

>>3658950
huh?

>>3658956
Quake.
Enemies.
Move around on simple frame.
Me scared.
People said earlier that frame could be better.
That Quake could interpolate frames.
Makes monsters not teleport around.

so lads what is your prediction for this year's egregious cacoward snub?

I am going to guess D4D. (BD64 also won't win but that's not really a snub)

>>3658960
Well tell us what port then anon.

>>3658963
If I knew, I wouldn't be asking, duh.

>>3658962

Well, the big-name releases this year are D4D, Blades of Agony, JPCP (big-ish? Not really), Ancient Aliens, and BD64/Hell on Earth.

I'd say Blades of Agony if only because it's fucking awful and I will be genuinely surprised if anybody on that team liked it.

>>3658941
Not really. His history consists of mainly off topic posting for the sake of posting. clogging up the forum

>>3658971
Are you playing dosquake? winquake? glquake? Quakespasm?

You must know what your damn exe file is called.

>>3658986
GLQuake, I think. The one from GoG.

>>3658567
That'd be a 32in24 entry, I think 14 was the latest one? Could be 15. It was recent, I know that.

>>3658995
The latest coop one, that is. Obviously one gets made every year, it's usually competitive gamemodes though.

>>3658992
Well then, get quakespasm instead and type
r_lerpmodels 1
r_lerpmove 1
in the console if it's not on by default

Well, this secret is bullshit.

>>3659007
Copying that to my notepad, I'll try that later.

>>3657387
>RETRO FPS THREAD
How many years until Half-Life and F.E.A.R. become retro?

And now I remember that F.E.A.R. was extremely good, and then the sequels arrived.

>>3657445
Wow, one of the best single map wads I played, fresh monsters, cool looking weapon sprites, great map with lot of details, the boss fight was also intense with his impossible to dodge laser attack which forced you to take cover behind pillars constantly hiding into ground, making you vulnerable.

10/10 fantastic level

Where the fuck do I torrent Blood?

Cant find it anywhere

>>3659064
damn he still looks a woman after all these years, especially from the thumbnail

>>3659064
I thought it was a woman with fake dreadlocks from the thumbnail.

>>3659071
He turns into a lesbian if you add earrings

>>3659064
Make sure to get the GOG version

>>3657445
Hell, this was a seriously cool map.

The weapons feel alright, though I'm not sure there was much point to the changes, given how the combat was structured.

The new enemies mesh well with the existing bestiary, which is excellent. The poison imp dude was a little meh, but the worms in the sewers, and the lasting light stretched assholes were much more interesting. I entirely skipped one of the fights, got the chaingun, and waltzed back into the hub.

I feel like the map's best parts were all on the back half, though, once you have the yellow key. There's some setpieces before that, but it doesn't get cool until you see the fleshy mass in the sewers. The rooms afterward were really neat, even if the fighting was a little one-directional, and the boss was pretty solid.

I also skipped the chaps what showed up after I killed the boss.Just ran right past them. Not sure if that's what you were going for.

>>3657396
>>3657401
And sometimes we made them in Heretic II instead.

>>3658962
>>3658973

Out of curiosity, I decided to compile a list of Cacoward winners to see if there's any recurring theme.
And suffice to say, I did in fact find one. I am absolutely amazed at the sheer bias towards one particular author, who... Well, I'll just let the numbers speak for themselves.

http://hastebin.com/simakitosu.md

>>3658813
>You saw hooves, but the new guy didn't. It's hard to interpret such nuances in a low-res monster like that
except he very clearly put toes in where there was previously no detail whatsoever, and quake has a surprising amount of detail despite being low-res- stuff like the emblem on the ogre's suspenders, the pupils of grunts' eyes, the chinks on hellknights' armor, all of that is included even if it's just a pixel or two

the shambler has NOTHING there

>and as far as I know, there's no Quake 1 concept art to prove which interpretation is right or wrong.
there is, but we've never seen it because adrian carmack never released it unlike the doom concept art
romero has said shamblers have fur and no eyes, though

>>3659125
>over 20 awards
shameful.
simply shameful.

>>3659125
Wow, I can't believe the Cacowards are rigged.
The proof's been there this whole time.

>>3659015
Jump off the left ledge and air control around to it? There's a similar secret at the very start of Terror Fuma requiring you to move about in midair to get to the nailgun on the tram.

>>3659102
I hate this meme, both steam and GOG versions are the same.

>>3659125
I don't get it

This fight is fucking bullshit

What are some mapsets for Doom that fit the quake aesthetic?

>>3659125
>Sergeant Mark IV

>>3659125
joking aside, this is an interesting list, thank you

>>3659154
Get efficient. It's not even the hardest fight.

>>3659048
Never. The 1999 rule will still stand when its 2020.

>>3659179
Man, /vr/ would practically turn into /v/ if the gate was raised for non-Dreamcast 6th gen

>>3659186
between JD, kattfag, australia-kun, autismo, and the doom babbies nerd, we've got some interesting characters

>>3658568
You think I was kidding?

The wad is here >>3658995

>>3659125
I'm surprised Ribbiks won so many. I love his shit but his stuff is pretty polarizing.

You know, all I see are comments about SP uses and tactics for the vanilla Doom weapons, but how do they stack up in competitive deathmatch use? Any gun seen as the OP choice? Which ones are generally considered the less useful?

>>3659186
I'll never understand why people think this.

>>3659234
>ripped by me
>gib credit pls
Why are spriterippers so retarded?

>>3659186
>would

It already has

>>3647368

>>3659256
Not just /v/-lite, but full-on /v/

>>3659234
BY ME

>>3659245
Yeah from now on everytime I repost that pic I'll just chop that part off.

>>3657390
Run For It, the mod that gives everything legs, gets a release.
https://youtu.be/LE96VqwW2zs

>>3659273
So this was the Runballs mod? Definitely going to play this

>>3659265
That thread was pretty much full on /v/-tardation from the start. The only way it could get worse if we had unironic cringe threads.

>>3659273
This should not be nearly as funny as it is.

>>3659273
Holy shit, this is fucking glorious.

>>3659273
funny as shit

lmao

This is not going to bode well.

>>3659301
>laughter_stops.jpg

>>3659273
what the fuck

Oh god

>>3659337
themdangol'itemsrunnin'roundlikethemdang'olroadrunnercartoons, mang

>>3659350
>>3659345
Some sort of modular sprites? Seems neat.

Guys

Guys

Try playing it with Fractal Doom

Imp fireballs are no joke in Run For It. If they hit a wall they simply turn into a homing fireball that continues to pursue until you shoot it at least once. This also makes Revenants a pain in the dick.

The player's advantage is that they can set their runballs to a specific target, and can freeze them all at will.

Now imagine playing with fast monsters.

>>3659273
What the actual fuck

How do I run Quake mods and maps with Quakespasm on Linux?

This is a fucking revolution in modding

>>3659396
>Mancubus

Oh god

>>3659390
Same way as any other OS. For mods, launch Quakespasm with the "-game x" parameter where x is the name of the folder the mod is in inside the Quake directory (rogue, hipnotic, ad, etc.) For maps open the fucking console and type "map x" where x is the name of the map.

Quake Injector and other tools have made people stupid.

fucking HELL YES it finally works

I'll be tweaking the randomized arc offset and also give each bend a chance to spawn sub-arcs tomorrow. This thing will look awesome.

>>3659446
Looks great!

>>3659459
Took basically the entire day to figure out the math.

Speaking of which, anyone know the the best way to scale a range of say 0 - 500 so it goes from 0 to 1 in the middle and then back to zero again? I want to scale the randomized offset so it's less random closer to each end point of the arc.

>>3659104
I call the 3 "Flesh Wizards" that appear after the boss The Council. Since they appear when you are on the circular platform and quickly surround it. Cool thing about the yellow key room that I haven't seen anyone take advantage of is the arachnotron that appears after you grab the soulsphere. You can use it like a turret to clear everything but the barons!

>>3659051
Very happy with how that boss room turned out. It's simply but it works so well. Depending on what he's launching at you ya either need cover or you need to move lol. One thing I'll admit is I'm not entirely sure how I got the pillars to move so randomly :P

>>3658937
Good shootin soldier. It's possible you missed the secret monster near the exit button

>>3658705
Glad you liked it!

For my next wad I plan to make a Heretic map where you play as the original owner of the Gauntlet's of the Necromancer. If anyone can help me tweak the gauntlets to raise the dead I'd pretty much be forever grateful!

>>3659416
I've never used Quake Injector.

>>3658316

calm your agitation

>>3658648
Still not perfectly Software-ish

>>3659382
>Now imagine playing with fast monsters.
Someone record a .webm

>>3659446
>>3659480
u guys are some next level smart I feel like normie scum in this thread sometimes

>>3659273

>>3658869
That was my first thought too, but I'm not above helping the guy achieve at least part of the software experience while keeping the OpenGL charm

>>3659396
Barrels o' fun was my fav map as a kid :]

>>3659540
Ditto.
Though it's not really a super good design

>that one guy who signed up on the doom 2016 general on doomworld to baitpost
gee

I wonder who might that be

>>3659551
you?

>>3659551
Unless I've read it wrong it says that it registered in 2005.

On the bright side, we at least have a name.

>>3659557
>On the bright side, we at least have a name.

Contrary to popular opinion, not all shitposters are one single person.

>>3659551
the TNO remark is a dead giveaway.

>>3659273
>I AM WEAK.jpg

>>3659234
WEHN POSSIBLE

>>3659548
yeah it's downright sloppy compared to what us mappers make today but to 7 year old me it was fuggin genius

>>3657445
Now that was a fuckin cool map.

>>3659273
Fuck yes, it's out.

Previous thread someone mentioned a better BSP plugin for UE4 that wasn't finished. Anyone know if there is a similar plugin that would allow for quake/doom style level editing in UE4?

>>3659396
>Chara
So I am not the only person using that name in Doom. From now on I guess I'll go as "Chara(2)" to avoid confusion until I can think of a better name.

Can you beat that map with hostile barrels on?

>>3659709
I don't play much multiplayer anymore and I would probably use a different name anyway, no need to worry

Not sure, i'm sure it's possible.

>>3658484
Honestly, the shield is a pretty cool addition. I'd like a mod that added just that to the game, just for that slight extra bit of combat depth for melee.

why is strife so shit omfg

>>3657476
Doom
Return to Castle Wolfenstein
Half-Life (Opposing Force, mostly)
Quake
Duke Nukem 3D
I really need to replay some games like Quake, HL, and Duke, and finish/start some other retro shooters. Already got Marathon trilogy to work on. Time to make a list...

>>3659725
Because it's an RPG that was built using the Doom engine. It barely works and has no real direction. More of an experiment then anything

When they sold it in stores Duke Nukem 3D was the talk of the town so no one gave a shit about it.

>>3659446
fucking
how

i was trying yesterday to make a hitscan that made a smooth arc from point A to point B
i even tried copying D4D's lightning gun effect, but that went completely over my head

>Running around in Marathon
>Looking at my map to speed through since I've cleared everything out and not paying attention
>Open door and random Wasp is waiting there to attack me immediately
>Happens about four times
>Jump every time cause I'm not paying attention
FUCK OFF YOU TINY LITTLE FUCKERS

Any way to change the view model in quakespasm? Like make it bigger or move it up?
I know disabling sbaralpha will fix it a bit, but I'd like to know if there's a better way.

Is there a way to save the changes in quake spasm?

>want to play Hideous Destructor multiplayer
>GZdoom
>oh boy
>set it all up
>download the newest fucking versions of GZDoom and HD because they update every 3 days
>plug both computers directly into a network switch
>run the game
>"Out of sync with 2" appears at the top of the screen IMMEDIATELY

Can someone explain the steps necessary to having a good time playing ZDoom multiplayer?

I don't understand. How did people play over a phone network in '93 just fine but I can't play a lan game today

>>3657445
Good job.

>>3659765
They do too much damage for how little and weak they are

>>3657445
>hubris labs

I really hope the anon from two threads ago (>>3653797) is still around these parts

http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=47003

This is perhaps the mod he was looking for.

Any quake mods that grants the player to slow down time at will not the super hot type i mean the F.E.A.R style?

>>3659856
>Zdoom multiplayer
If it doesn't run in Zandronum its not worth trying

>>3659856
ZDoom multiplayer is basically a pile of floppy dicks.

>>3659879
>>3659883
With Edward out of the picture is there any hope for a netcode revamp?

>>3659885

No, since Edward was the only person who was willing to work on it.

>>3657445
Now this is why I still come to /vr/. A game old enough to drink but you guys still somehow make it fresh

Is there a way with UDMF to cause your vision to fade in from black at the start of a level, similar to what Doom64 does?

>>3659913
You mean like in Painkiller?

>>3659908
So what about the Z& netcode devs then? Or is the culture between the two ports too different for any cooperation?

>>3659913

script 1 ENTER
{
faderange(0,0,0,1.0,0,0,0,0.0,1.0);
}
}

>>3659919

Oops, added an extra }
Oh well. Put that in your map's ACS and have a funs.

>>3659864
Thankfully the fusion pistol one shots them, whenever I see more than two or three I run back and pull out the fusion pistol to mow them down.

>>3659919
>>3659920
Awesome, thanks for the help.

>>3657476
Doom,
Quake 3
Serious Sam
TF2
UT2003

>>3659781
Fitzquake Mark V has an option to raise the view model

>>3659978
Fitzquake Mark V is basically just another version of Quakespasm ain't it? Both of them are basically the same program but Mark V decided to change a couple things.

>>3659416
Quakespasm also lets you change mods via the console. Try "game ad"! (You might also want to type "exec quake.rc" as the console suggests afterwards to load mod-specific default settings)

>>3659918
Not so much culture as codebase. Z& is behind in ZDoom features because they have to add support for all of them to the netcode, and the Skulltag netcode was... well, it's a fine fit for the ZDoom codebase, let's leave it at that.

>>3659749
Well first I looked at scroton's lightning spawner code and tried to wrap my head around bezier curve explanations on the internet. But at that I failed spectacularly, so I just spawned and logged (distance/100 nodes) in a line with randomization, then in a second loop spawned another such line between each node.

If I'd done it properly, there'd been variable smoothness between the bends.

>>3657476
Doom
Quake
System Shock 2
Deus Ex
Half-Life

>>3657561
Unreal is fucking amazing. And it's almost uncanny how good it still looks with graphics turned way up, much thanks to A+++ art direction and detail textures. Most important though is this adventurous feeling of exploring a large alien environment, kind of like how morrowind felt the first time you played it.

>>3660032
the vast, empty locations aren't really that interesting. Unreal's game play is also pretty boring, which is far more important than it looking pretty. It does look a lot better than some other games on the same engine, like deus ex which looks horrendous.

>>3657445
>armor/health bonuses on the map
I fucking love you, this was really enjoyable, my only gripe is that shotgun felt really weak compared to other weapons.
>that secret at the end of the level
Chuckle.avi

>>3660041
I found exploring huge environments to be pretty interesting on its own. Besides, locations become much more dense with enemies and obstacles after the first few levels. Also if you think location is empty it more often than not means that there's a secret somewhere out there.

>>3657445
This is sticky worthy.

Is there a point to this secret or is it just "lol lore" shit? I need megahealth and red armor, not lore.

>>3659487
Oi, can you make yer map work in ZDoom? I've been itching for good maps. Anyhow, I like your plan. Heretic seems great.

SCIENCE!

So with Arcane Dimensions, is there any particular order that I should play the levels in?

So I'm trying to set up EDuke32 and all, and the base game seems to be working just fine, but the DC/NW/CV add-on episodes seem to be pretty broken. Is there something I'm missing from the same directory as ED32 that I need to copy over? I've got the add-on folders and most content folders ("classic, data, maps", etc.) copied over into the same directory already.

>>3660168
Not really. Arcane Dimensions is just a collection of levels made to play in any order. Just pick the one that peaks your fancy.

>>3660165
shit son
that's awesome

>>3660174
Here's a solution: play a better game

>>3660174
Wait, figured it out. Had to copy the "nwinter, vacation, dukedc" app files over from their folders and run the expansions separate from Atomic edition.

>>3660174
I had problems with those as well, but after just downloading the Duke 3D pack that you can find in the main pastebin, the episodes worked fine.

>>3660202
If you have the add-ons from Megaton edition, EDuke32 should directly detect the grp files corresponding to each add-on and you can select them in the startup menu. (if not, copy paste the grp files in the EDuke32 base folder)
Keep in mind that this doesn't work with the original add-ons grps files, the ones from megaton were modified. It's still possible to play the original but it's a little more complicated.

>>3660208
Ha, well shit I didn't see that link. Ah well, did things the messy and hard way by just copying from the Steam folder contents. Everything seems to be working fine.

Am I wrong in thinking the "less busy" section looks better than the two bricks with more pixels?

>>3660219
Shit's too dark yo.

Why dont we make a reverse wad database filled with anti-wads that is just meant to be bad?

>>3660230
Yeah, also let's call it "Official /vr/ approved wads"

>>3660230
>terry.wad
>terry2.wad

>>3659781
Check the command list, I know there's cl_ options for it.

Can we all agree that these wads are the only ones a doom player ever needs?

Ancient Aliens
Back To Saturn X
Back To Saturn X 2
Sunlust
Valiant

>>3659856
>download mods, make sure both players use the same version
>download GZDoom, make sure both player use the same version
>open port 5029 in udp
>agree on a load order in ZDL
>launch the server, give your friend your IP
>friend joins
it just werks, but save often

>>3660278
There's no need to limit your choices when there's tons of shit to play.

>>3660278
why the fuck would you limit yourself like that?

>>3660278
>Can we all agree...
No. I love the wads you listed, but there are a hell of a lot more worthwhile wads than just those 5.

>>3660165
h-...how?

>>3660165
teach me your secrets

>>3660297

Maybe I'll extend my list to 10 wads. Which ones would you recommend on top of the 5 I listed?

>>3660298
>>3660301
LineAttack, SpawnParticle, and a lot of trig in nested loops.

Grab the code when it's finished and released :P

>>3660319
Impressive, I'll have to check it out. I love lightning guns and am abysmal with math.

>>3660319
>:P

>>3660240
damnit, we wanted a quality wad ,not terry traps.

Fun new trick I just learned for people with trash computers: Apparently the GZDoom commandline "-glversion 2.0" will force the legacy GL renderer, even if your computer can *technically* run the new one (at a terrible framerate).

I haven't tried this myself yet, because my GPU is mint, but I'm told it's a thing.

>>3660326
I'm terrible at it too, there's hours of trial and error before anything works.

Got the thing to fork just now by the way, so this feature of the mod is done pretty much. Runs into the max particle limit very fast though and breaks the ACS instruction limit with low node sparsity/distance limit.

>>3660350
I think new gzdoom versions should automatically detect which renderer will be the fastest.

Keyword is 'should' I guess..

>>3660356
you could do that thing that D4D did with it's solid beams

>>3660367
Haven't looked through how it works there, but aren't they 3d models/flatsprites which are GL renderer only? I want this mod to be software compatible.

I wish someone would continue developing Project MSX.

>>3660394
and take out the regen shield while they're at it.

>>3660280
>make sure both players use the same version
I think this is where I fugged up.

What are the best netplay options, both from the command line and in the GZDoom menu?

>>3660395
I don't mind it actually. Some of the guns really need tweaking though, to balance them better and make them feel more satisfying

>>3660395
There needs to be a mod where you have
Health
Armor
Shields

The shields recharge, the others don't.