/vr/ - Retro Games

=== NEWS ===

[12-1] 'No End In Sight', an Ultimate Doom megawad
https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom/Ports/megawads/neis

[11-29] RIP Steven Hornback, former Apogee/3D Realms artist
https://twitter.com/3drealms/status/803363758605299713

[11-27] The Macbook Pro's touch bar runs Doom
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GD0L46y3IqI

[11-22] Retro Jam 5, a Wind Tunnel-themed map pack for Quake
http://celephais.net/board/view_thread.php?id=61377

[11-19] MetaDoom v2.0 is out
http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=53010

[[11-19] Custom Gun: The Gun-ening. Done by the Hexen Souls author
http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=54303

[11-14] Doom 64-style map textures for Doom 2
http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=37&t=54248

[11-13] Blade of Agony Chapter 1 release
http://www.moddb.com/mods/wolfendoom-blade-of-agony/news/blade-of-agony-chapter-1-released

[11-9] Suddenly a Russian Overkill update
http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=29915&p=953003#p953003

[11-9] RIP Malinku, Doom mapper
https://www.doomworld.com/vb/everything-else/91549-user-malinku-was-murdered/

[11-7] Total Chaos, a GZDoom total total total conversion, has alpha release
http://www.moddb.com/mods/total-chaos

[11-7] Someone else is making a Doom 4 mod for Doom, called ''Zion''.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Evd4teWlJo

[11-5] SYNTH DOOM, anon-made 80s inspired retro music mod
https://mega.nz/#!KlBiAJDC!PuPUNjIjKdqK6NISzhQlWs8I7hUIrIkpvSuOyRnH4uE

[11-2] Warp House - A Shores of Hell inspired GZDoom map with a lot of monsters, secrets and 20,000 sectors to explore
http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?p=949685#p949685

[11-2] "Runballs" Doom mod in development
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uWVdBk_rd1w

[10-30] Doom4Doom 2.0 released - a gameplay mod that brings the Doom 2016 weapons into the classic Doom maps
http://www.moddb.com/mods/d4d-doom4-for-doom/downloads/d4d-v20


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Bump.
j/k

postan again in case some anons missed it in last thread

>>3653639
>Done by the Hexen Souls author
There are wads for Hexen too?

>>3653639
>[12-1] 'No End In Sight', an Ultimate Doom megawad
I swear I downloaded this years ago and after checking, it's basically the exact same WAD.
Differences being that it now has a title card, different episode names and a forth episode

>NEIS
>it's a Doom 1 megawad so it must be easy
>jump straight to the fourth episode

Jesus H Christ this is actually pretty fucking hard.

>>3652024
>>3652046
>Project Brutality
Yuck no.
X-Weapon: Helsturm.

What are some of your favorite retro FPS weapons?
Hard mode: No ultimate weapons (ie BFG, Wraithverge, etc)
Nightmare! mode: No super shotguns

>>3653662
The shotgun. It's the bread and butter, it's accurate even at long range, and in Doom, the damage depends on how many pellets hits the enemy, so with large enemies like the cacodemon, you can almost sniper them with the shotgun.

>>3653662

Quake 2's blaster, Unreal's dispersion pistol, the flak cannon from unreal tournament, the original shotgun and chaingun in Doom, the sapphire wand in Hexen.

>>3653668
>Quake 2's blaster

Did you know that gun has helped a lot of speedrunners improve their times for the game?

Myself included.

When I first played doom and found it boring
Turns out playing on a harder difficulty greatly increases the experience.

>>3653662
Heavy machine gun from Soldier of Fortune
GL from Quake
AC20 from MechWarrior 3
Shock rifle from UT99

>>3651718
>Switching between some of the weapons in D4D is such a pain that I just disable the MP weapons, the main weapons are overpowered enough anyway.

Late response but whatever. I too disable the MP weapons but only because they're effectively inventory bloat. In FPS that allow you to carry many weapons, you need to give them all a niche and thus adding in too many guns generally creates a shitload of needless overlap.

One of few Doom mods where I can give 'featuring a shitload of weapons' a pass would be DRLA because it actually imposes a reasonable carry limit.

>>3653662
Plasma Gun from Quake 3.

>>3653672

I didn't, how's that work?

>>3653674
>Shock rifle from UT99
Mah nigga

>>3653662
Turok 2/Turok Rage Wars/Unreal's weapons, I like too many, I grew up with them.

>>3653673
>UV-Max for comfy UV experience, because getting all secrets will give you plenty of ammo and health/armor to work with
>UV all kills, no secrets for a more edge-of-your-seat UV experience
Though "comfy UV experience" only really applies to the first two games, since they're fairly easy when compared to Final Doom or popular mega-wads. I almost always go for UV-Max whenever I play through an official Doom game again, and do my best to get all kills and secrets when possible in other old shooters.

>>3653662

I really like the concussion rifle from Dark Forces, I also love the sound effects of the ethereal crossbow in Heretic. It's a pretty good gun too.

Doom Delta is pretty fun, if not horribly unfinished. It's a really nice alternate take on the typical Doom Alpha projects.

Playing with the retroshader and the paletted tonemap really makes it feel authentic. I can't believe torrid's autism actually was useful for something.

Mick comes from Australia to play some D44m themes but then he plays Quake 2 instead

https://youtu.be/5a9E3n_VZRQ

>>3653662
Dual Combat Shotguns from Marathon
Ethereal Crossbow and Firestorm from Heretic/Hexen
Grenade Launcher from Quake
The Mighty Boot from Duke

>>3653693
There's music in Quake? I got the game on GoG, there was no music.

>>3653693
I wonder how many people there even knew Quake 2's soundtrack or played Quake 2

>>3653695
Yes there is. Use a source port like Quakespasm to make the music work by putting music files in a music folder inside the ID1 folder.

>>3653693
Why does it seem like it's not actually live

>>3653639
>[12-1] 'No End In Sight', an Ultimate Doom megawad
downloaded it and holy shit its tedious
4th map already put me to sleep, does it get any better later on?

>>3653684
I like how the game transforms as the difficulty ramps up.
From guns blazing running marathon to peek around the corner and shoot

>>3653662
pistol from realms of the haunting
M16 from nam
heavy repeater from jedi knight
super nailgun from quake
hyperblaster from quake 2
chainsaw from doom
assault rifle from wolfenstein
dynamite from blood
RPG from duke 3d
bows from in daggerfall
flechettes in hexen

>>3653690
So basically this is Doom:Hell Unleashed but with 100% more happening, gotta check it out then.

>>3653701
I think no one expects live music in a bullshit awards event. But it's the nearest thing to fun here.

>>3653719
>heavy repeater from jedi knight
>not the lightsaber

>>3652926
>Nope. The triple gatling's a chaingun replacement.
>It actually does pretty low damage, it just shoots pretty quickly and pretty accurately.

When you used it in your stream I swear I remember you utterly destroying the spongier monsters types. Either way it's pretty much a Russian Overkill tier weapon by design and replacing a common weapon like the chaingun sounds off.

>>3653662
Quake's grenade launcher
Blood's Dynamite
Blood's Napalm Launcher
Unreal Tournament's Flak Cannon
Unreal Tournament's Ripper

>mfw there will never, ever proper single-player reboot of Quake

>>3653778
>you will never have a fast-paced shooter like Doom
I miss having a rocket-propelled wheelchair. Even if the recent DOOM made it fun to move around, it still feels sluggish.

>>3653780
Doom 4 is faster though, by the time you finish cocking your shotgun in Doom 1 after killing 1 imp, you already killed 2 in Doom 4.

>>3653784
I mean the movement. There's nothing wrong with the shooting in DOOM, it's fun as fuck (even through the game is way too big for my small hard drive), but moving around feels sluggish compared to Doom.

>>3653784
I wish I had a PC that could run D44M desu
Even if is doesn't have the staying power of the original, it still looks hella fun.

>>3653784
No.

Fire rate is exactly the same, frame by frame (I know 'cause I ripped it - 33 frames), and while you can kill and imp in one shot in Doom, nuDoom ones need 2 shots, mostly because of a retarded glorykill bullshit.

>>3653787
It is fun. The only beef I have with it is that you have to unlock the secondary fire for your weapons and some of them are really overpowered compared to the normal fire, you have some stupid challenges that feel like a pain in the ass, and there are too many mancubus and they're beefy as fuck (on top of being resistant to bullets).

Other than that, if you can ignore the challenge and just shoot things in the face, it's really fun. DOOM uses a system where monsters get damaged, so if you shoot a hell knight in the face with a two-barrelled shotgun, his face turns into a bloody mess. You almost wonder why it doesn't pass out from the pain.
The Glory Kills get repetitive quickly, but are thankfully extremely quick.
And the two parts I really like but I feel aren't used properly : the less HP you have, the more potent healing items (that you get from Glory Kills) are, and you can use the chainsaw to get ammo : if a monster is killed with the chainsaw (one-hit kill, by the way), then it drops ammos for all your weapons. Usually enough to refill all your weapons.
The chainsaw needs fuel to operate, so it's mostly a game of trading fuel to get ammo, and you often want to use the chainsaw on weak enemies (since tougher enemies require more fuel).

>>3653792
Hi Mark.

>>3653778
Talking about proper retro-FPS, I'm a bit worried about Bombshell didn't show any enemie yet.

I'm trying to get into modding and I got an idea but for that I need to be able to resurrect the player after he died, is that possible?
I looked it up and found this thread
http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=33620
Is this still the case?

>>3653796
It did, the spider thing, they say it's WIP though. Also there is a dead corpse (red thing) on another screenshot that look like an eenmy.

>>3653797
Type "resurrect" in console.

>>3653798

>>3653797
Or you can have a trigger that ends the map if the character is under a specific amount of HP, like in Doom's first episode.

>>3653798
Another shot with the spider. Again, they said it's not finished and polished yet, which is why it looks a little out of place.

>>3653804
Wait, I didn't see this in their twitter. Source?

>>3653690
>That 255 blue eight
My fucking eyes

>>3653778
>even if Zenimax decides to make a Lovecraftian-themed Quake campaign it still won't have proper 90s-style level design

>>3653693
ironically Quake II soundtrack is good

mainly Crashed up Again and Rage

>>3653794
You should be truly retarded to think that "retarded glorykill" and "bullshit executions" are think Mark would've said.

It's Sinael, in fact ( the guy who rips shit in this thread http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=37&t=38067))

Stop spewing bullshit you know nothing about. Speed of all weapon in Doom '16 is same or lower than one in Doom 1/2, and TTK is definitely much lower.

>>3653804
Those spiders are definitely in TrueColor, while textures in the environment attempt to recreate palettized look.

Do you know if they use EDuke32 as some claim, or is this their own fork of Build?

>>3653814
>doom combat armour
>quake 3 rocket launcher
This bothers me more than it should.

>>3653817
Okay, Mark. Stay mad, Mark.

>>3653818
>truly retarded

>>3653801
>>3653803
That's not really what I intend.
I want to create a "Live" system similiar to the one in mario games.
If you die you will get healed and turn invincible for a few seconds and you lose one life. If you have no lives left you have to start the map over.

>>3653819
>>3653814

Ironically, crash's armor really looks like the praetor suit

>>3653819
Don't worry Mark, you still have kids that love you.

>>3653798
>That revolver
But why

>>3653817
They use EDuke32. They said the Spiders aren't finished yet, but one of them said they used a trick to switch palettes as they want or something like that.

>>3653818
>>3653819
lol dumbass

>>3653824
Hello Mark.

Using self encouraging samefaggotry is not good for your mental stability you know.

>>3653483

HAI MARK, how is your butt ointment today?

>>3653823
How deep does the rabbit hole go?

report and hide

>>3653825
It's the revolver from the "real" Bombshell game. IIRC it's based loosely on a real gun, but on 'roids.

>>3653831
>til crash is in fact samus, and that the doomguy's instructor bio is a fluke


HORY SHET!

>>3653834
>>3653825
It is a real thing. Because why shoot some one 3 times in sequence, when you can shoot them 3 times for one trigger pull?

>>3653662
System Shock's Skorpion. That thing is crazy.

>>3653690
download link?

>>3653649

9,5/10 it made me smile.

When the h*ck is Space Pirate and GMOTA

>>3653662

Spray can flamethrower in Blood. It's just too fun.

>>3653886
I wish there was more way to set things on fire in FPS. Blood is the only games that does it properly, except for the blood splatters when it finally dies.

>>3653890

And don't forget the unnerving screams when the cultists get engulfed by fire, they're too enjoyable.

What do you guys usually put as the inventory keys? [ and ] is a bit awkward, mousewheel is good tho

>>3653907
T and Y to cycle through items, F to use
Seems to work ok and doesn't conflict with any other important keys

>>3653907
W X C, for previous, use and next respectively
(on an azerty keyboard, so it's just the 3 keys below the movement ones)

>>3653906
>Crudox Cruo!
>Cruo Stragananda malactose!
>HAAAAAA IT BURNS IT BURNS

>>3653690
Wait, how the hell does that minimap work?

>>3653907
, and . to cycle, enter to use.

Friends, the 23rd anniversary of Doom will be in ONE WEEK on Dec. 10th. I ask whomever makes these threads plans accordingly for that day.

>>3653907

C to select left, V to select right, Q to use

>>3653792
you are still prone to need two shots to down an imp in classic if you fire at it from a distance, but will always down it in a single blast up close. that's the same deal with the new game.

even then
>firing the shotgun from afar
literally what the pistol is for.

>>3653939
Time flies when you are a faggot

>>3653787
>I wish I had a PC that could run D44M desu
>Even if is doesn't have the staying power of the original, it still looks hella fun.
I just assembled my new right last night, and d44m has been the first thing I've played. It's honestly a lot of fun if not particularly challenging in combat. I'm at "the foundry" level and it has some of the better level design I've seen in a long time. Looks gorgeous and is quite non-linear. Many secrets on every level which I really appreciate.

One nitpick is that the chiaroscuro lighting style makes it slightly hard for me to navigate and get a sense of my surroundings.

>>3653946
new rig*

>>3653945
>>>/pol/

>>3653943
In the newDoom, even when you shoot imp from point blank, it will not die and go into "ready to be glorykilled" state instead. Only regular zombies die in one shot, and imps/soldiers can die from one charged headshot from pistol or a poprocket, but that's not really compareable.

>>3653662
The Shrinker from Duke Nukem 3D, not only is it hysterical, it's also really fucking good.

>>3653949
There was nothing /pol/ about that

>>3653662
Tie between grenade launcher in Shadow Warrior and dynamite in Blood. Not even SSG comes close.

>>3653952
>calling someone a faggot out of the blue
Yes it is.

>>3653954
quite sensitive,are we?

>>3653950
>In the newDoom, even when you shoot imp from point blank, it will not die and go into "ready to be glorykilled" state instead.
no, I can *guarantee* you that this is indeed not the case. why would it not, given how imps have less HP than former humans? headshots are a thing too, and they're quite handy when fighting monsters.

also imps and soldiers will only die from a charged shot if and only if it's from a fully upgraded pistol. a non upgraded pistol charged shot to the head is prone to make imps falter, THEN you can finish it off with a glory kill. and you're still gonna need two shotgun blasts to off a soldier afterwards.

>>3653954
Do you know where you are?

What difficulty should i go with for marathon, guys? The UV equivalent, or normal, since i heard it's kinda bullshit?

>>3653957
>>3653954
If someone is called a faggot on 4chan and nobody's there to care about it, why the hell are you trying to argue about it?

>>3653814
>visible eyes
GET RID OF IT

>>3653823
How do you figure? It's just Doomguy's classic armor with even less armor padding, tights instead of pants and an intentionally exposed midriff. Nowhere near as visually noisy as the new suit.

>>3653954
fucking redditors invading my weebsite

>>3653957
>>3653960
>>3953965
>>3653969
what is wrong with you?

>>3653963
UV

>>3653971
I haven't noticed anything wrong.

>>3653968

God dammit Mark, go shitpost somewhere else

>>3653963
Major Damage is fine. Total carnage lets you carry infinite ammounts of ammo but i think itll still be a bullshit difficulty

>>3653971
Protip : if everyone is wrong, then you're probably the problem.

Why is Doom 1's campaign so much more memorable?

>>3653975
save for the blatant samefagging, sure.
>>3653981
the hell does this even mean.

>>3653979
what

>>3653971
>I'm different from everyone else, that means they're abnormal

>>3653985
report and ignore the samefag.

>>3653985
I made 2(two) posts.
Why throw a bitchfit over it?

>>3653982
cause it's the original and more popular one?

it's like asking why is Mario 1's levels more memorable than Mario 2's despite 2 being better.

>>3653990
>bitchfit
what does asking a simple question even have to do with bitching

seriously, are you the same guy who's always having a spergout because his anger gets repressed or something?

>>3653982
Doom 2 has more complete stinkers. Doom 1 is consistently good until Episode 3.

>>3653995
No,I'm just checking out the general.

>>3653998

>>3654001
I'll let you believe what you want to believe,I'm no missionary.

>>3653982
Doom 2's level is all over the place, ranging from spectacular maps to downright atrociously shit. Doom's on the other hand is very homogeneous and never falls into the bad category.

>>3653996
Doom falls flat after episode 1, cause Romero barely had input afterwards. Also I'd rather play Doom 2's shitty city levels over episode 4 any day.

>>3654004
meant to say level design*

>>3654004
>and never falls into the bad category.
E2M9.

>>3654008
>purposefully left out of the single player loop map
it's not even a bad one at that in any way.

>>3654005
Episode 4 was made after the fact anyway and I doubt when people talk about Doom 1, they exclude it anyway, just like Final Doom is not considered a part of Doom 2. Myself I really like Episode 2 as well, even if it isn't as good as the first.

>post spike reaches its highest with five-six in less than two minutes
>now it's quiet as fuck
really makes you think doesn't it

>>3654014
shitposting is one hell of a bump

>>3653986
don't enable it

How do I stop the NUTS wads from lagging? I've seen people play it fluidly and my vid card is great

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PrTaRTzBfBo

>>3654049
I believe you must use the prboom+ sourceport

GoldenEye with KB+M is pretty rad

>>3654059
Still lags bad

>>3653982
Doom 1 is more focused and consistent. Doom 2 kinda just does whatever after the first 6 levels.

>>3654067
>shoot wooden crates
>they explode

How would you fix shubby here?

>>3653907
I put them right next to my WASD keys, so Q and E.

>>3654076
>punch barrels
>they explode

>>3654005
>Doom falls flat after episode 1

I disagree. E1 is comfy fun, but its also very straight forward, mostly linear, and virtually impossible to run out of ammo due to its reliance on zombies. I find E2 and E3 more exciting to play for their mazier and more hazardous level design, and bigger focus on demons over zombies.

>>3654079
I would not, it is perfect.

>>3654005
I still have nightmares about the city levels
>neverending key and button search, you're stuck here forever goy

Hello

I created a DOOM 2 WAD.

I decided that 4chan would be the first place I posted it.

Here it is,

https://www.mediafire.com/?v6l1k3g6gpu00pc

GoG is on winter sales and you can get Shadow Warrior Redux for free. Just earn some xp points, you don't need to buy any game.

I'm finally enjoying SW and the controls are fixed for good, but you can't take screenshots and the print screen button doesn't work.

>>3654098
FUCKING BEES

>>3654097
Oh yeah, I have only tested this with chocolate doom.

>>3654098
>just earn some XP points
how would I go about procuring said currency, my good man?

>>3654098
Neat, thanks.

>>3653870
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/107103062/DoomDelta/DoomDeltaGameplayTestv2.pk3
Super-unfinished, like I said. Glitchy as hell, too.

>>3653931
Fucking magic, idk.
I notice there's a lot of TECHNOLOGY going on under the hood here, but unlike Hideous Destructor or D4D it's being used very subtly, rather than make something super-advanced and impressive and flashy.

The casing ejection system alone boggles my mind.

>>3654105
Just go to gog.com and you'll realize hoiw to.

hmm i wonder where this goes.

>>3654114
fug

>>3654113
That picture only makes me realize how much i miss Thief's castles.

>>3654113
arcande dimensions getting new levels?

>>3654114
>>3654115
What's up with the weird palette?

>>3654128
it's done by reshade called "daltonize". it's chill

But seriously, I am really, really liking Equinox. The kind of shit that I've never seen in Doom or even other FPS games.

>>3654127
Yep

>>3653797

I am one hundred percent sure somebody made a mod that does exactly what you're looking for

Keep looking, if you can't find anything be sure to let me know

>step on water floor
>it's damaging

this violates the NAP
this allows applies to mud flats

>>3654154
>step on green water
>it doesn't damage

>>3654079
Turn the red parts into a McRib.

>>3654174
Are McRibs made of Cacodemons?

Hexen Souls guy, if you're lurking, do you think we could get a standalone release of the YOU DIED script? I'd like it for my autoloads.

>>3654187
>Hexen Souls
What's that?

>>3653797
Anyone, please?

>>3654143
I looked a bit through zdoom forums and didn't find anything (but oh well I don't really know what search terms fall under this)

>>3654194
http://hexen-souls.tumblr.com/
Just what it says on the tin, Dark Souls gameplay implemented in Hexen. No releases yet, but it looks really promising.

>>3654195

okay, give me a moment

>>3654132
Equinox is cool.

>>3654197
Gee, I dunno. Not enough parrying and blocking, it's still "moving backward while spamming m1".

I do like the fact that he kept DaS1's souls sound.

>>3654053
Chaos and order would be a nightmare on some of the more switchhunting levels

>>3654097
How come nobody downloaded my level yet?

>>3654080
but what about use?

>>3654207
it's only been an hour

geeze

>>3654132
strange how nobody talks about it, if its that good

>>3654195
>>3654198 (me)

okay, i can't find anything in the /vr/ archives, I was sure someone posted it here

but anyway, I do remember downloading it, but i have a couple of issues that I need to take care of first, I'll be back, I promise, anon!

>>3654207
I download every map people post here, don't always have anything to say about it.

>>3654217
But MediaFire says 'Downloads: 0'

I don't know who to trust!

>>3654207
I played through it. Not bad if it's your first map. Needed an SSG somewhere before the Spider Mastermind fight I think, getting through those Arachnotrons and then the Mastermind with only the shotgun and chaingun was really tedious. The Revenant ambush after that was well-executed, though. I was a bit lost after getting the red key until I tried hitting the first switch in the map again. Should probably have a second switch there instead.

If you hit the button that opens the medikit hallway near the cyberdemon arena a second time, this happens. Presumably these would be HOMs in software. Other than this, the map was technically sound. Texture alignment and selection could use improvement, but nothing was really offensive.

>>3654220

I downloaded it when I woke up.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯

>>3653662
Razorjack from Unreal (actually nearly every weapon from unreal is pretty dope)
Grenade launcher in Quake was always really satisfying.
Revolver from Half Life.

>>3654215
You are too kind, fellow anon.Thank you and don't stress yourself.
In the meantime I will try to come up with a new idea for a mod.

>>3654221

Wow. Thanks for playing!

What source port did you use?

Thanks for the screen shot. I'll check that out.

Hitting the switch a second time to open up the path to the cyberdemon is meant to be tricky like that. Were you really stuck? After you come through the passage from the red door you are looking directly at that switch, and the light is turned on. But I could make it more obvious.

Also, yeah I meant for the spider battle to have to use the shotgun and chain gun. I think it would be too easy with the SSG.

>>3654221
Also, the last thing I did was change the map because I liked the BGM, but I forgot that it would change the sky texture too. I need to use a different map because I don't like that sky texture.

>punching switches in marathon activates them

>>3654234
I played in stable GZDoom. No gameplay mods, just my custom HUD.

I wasn't stuck for very long, but my first expectation was that the path forward would already be opened since that's how the rest of the map had played out up to that point.

>I think it would be too easy with the SSG.
With all the cover and ammo provided, it wasn't particularly hard anyway, it just took longer than it would've with better weapons. The SSG would also be highly appreciated for the baron encounter at the end of the map. There's enough rockets and plasma that it isn't really necessary though, I just like to mix up my weapon choices.

are there any maps that are fun to play with russian overkill?

>>3654254
Happy Fun Circus.

Just kidding, it's a bugged mess and you can't switch weapons.

>>3654250
Cool. I reproduced the bug with chocolate doom and I fixed by making that switch work only once.

So how was the overall difficulty and pacing? I thought it was cool to have a Doom2 level without the SSG.

I thought fighting the spiders was fun with the shotgun and chaingun because it required patience. Fighting the barons at the end is also kind of interesting because they can actually chase you into the medikit corridor and do all sorts of stuff. You can use rockets on them but there's not quite enough. I might have a little bit too much plasma, I wanted to make sure there was enough for the cyberdemon. I actually had trouble killing the cyberdemon when I first put him in that area.

>>3654250
Did you find the secret area?

>>3654250
Oh yeah and any particular areas you didn't like the textures and/or alignment? I actually tried really hard to have nice textures and alignment.

>>3654079
Shub is a qt. She doesn't need fixing

>>3653639
i made a music mod. most is ogg format. dl & call me a faggot.

https://mega.nz/#!3pl0DIIR!xhINj4Ps0m265me6n84Ujc8qjU0OzA8pLudeQEzAXZ0

>>3654261
Difficulty was decent overall, but you really get shafted if you don't find the chaingunners first. My first attempt had me running around desperately searching for a weapon and only finding more bullets for my useless pistol before getting killed by the first revenant. I feel like the shotgun should be introduced a bit earlier. Not immediately, but maybe just before or after the chaingunners? Using only the chaingun for so long in the beginning wasn't too exciting, either, having another viable weapon early on would be nice.

I didn't find the secret, no. I wasn't really looking for it though.

>>3654309
Haha, yeah well that's the only branching path in the beginning. You either go to the room with the cacodemons or you go to the chaingunners. If you enter the cacodemon room with only a pistol I expected you to turn around and check out the other passage.

And I deliberately make you wait for the shotgun, so you have to take out the chaingunners with the pistol.

When you finally find the shotgun, it's the zombie sergeants who have them, but they are on the other side of a chasm so you can't pick up their guns. But then when you run from the lost souls you find a shotgun at last.

So that was a deliberate tease :).

I didn't realise someone would make it all the way to the first revenant with only a pistol. I might need to do something about that. I thought you would get stopped in the cacodemon room, but I suppose the elevator is fairly obvious to get out of there.

>>3654275
I like how it still looks disgusting even witha qt filter on

>>3654117
You are aware Thief has tons of custom levels, right?

>>3654127
Yes, plus a few new monsters and new features.

>playing marathon
>having fun
>get stuck in one part of the level, the elevator just wont work
>keep loading an earlier save from previous level, keep getting my ass kicked
>"fuck it i'll just find some cheats just to get out of here"
>" Cheat Codes in Marathon? This is what Jason Jones (Lead Programmer at Bungie Software) had to say about cheat codes in Marathon in an early Inside Mac Games interview with Tuncer Deniz:
"There are no secret codes in Marathon."

>>3654332
Yeah, but installing them is a pain in the ass.

>>3654334
Are you playing via Aleph One? There ARE cheats in Marathon, but you'll have to change a few programming switches (from no to yes) and, of course, inputting any cheats automatically kicks it into the highest difficullty.

>>3654345
>inputting any cheats automatically kicks it into the highest difficullty.

>>3654358
Well, I *think* it does. I'm not sure, but it seems like something bungie would do. But search for aleph one cheats.

>>3653982
is there a program that can render any Doom map this way?

It's Saturday bois

I wonder how these guys smell like haha jk

>>3654379
and here's my Heretic map I started a while ago.

>>3654382
Looks like some underground town. Reminds me of Vivec a bit.

>>3654381

hahaha i think it would be funny if one of them just like sat on doomguy and pinned him underneath haha

>>3654379
Most of my pics are the DoomGuy pounding Pinky's anus, so have a safe one.

>>3654408
ermagerd ids in a school you caused sandy hook

>>3654113
That answer doesn't really tell me anything

>>3654408
so is this something you're working on?

>>3654098
Remove Filters

>>3654408
You, remove filters too

>>3654439
>>3654436
Suck my cock, sperg

>>3654432
No. It's the Simpsons mod and the Metroid mod.

>>3654443
Theres no reason to have them enabled, they make the game look like shit

>>3654453
for the record, screenshot saturday is for WIPs

>>3654408
Where would one find these DoomGuy/Pinky pics?

>>3654459
If he doesn't want to turn them off then he likes the way it looks, let him play the way he wants to instead of forcing him into your circlejerk.

>>3653662

the shredder from turok 2

>>3654461
My bad, sorry.

>>3654463
cough cough google "H-Doom" cough cough


At any rate, I finally tried Shadow Warrior. The Redux one from GoG.
And I got my ass kicked in some epic proportion.

>>3654465
>Likes texture filters

>>3654476
Case in point.

>>3653662

>>3654379

GZDoom implemented some new resolution options.
Boy am I gonna have fun editing all the fullscreen graphics to accomodate these resolutions.

>>3653943
>firing the shotgun from afar
>literally what the pistol is for.
No thanks, don't want to spend all day firing.

Chaingun, that's another story.

>>3654079
>Shub-Niggurath
>Nigger Wrath

what did Lovecraft mean by this

>>3654079
Make it look like all the monsters in her level spawn from her (kinda like the IoS), so that she at least seems to fight you in some way.

>>3654097
Good fun. You gave a ton of health at the cyberdemon fight though, made everything that came after that not feel very dangerous.

>>3654559
why did he name his cat "niggerman"?

>>3654098

>you don't need to buy any game

>how to get more xp
>buy games
>use your wallet

>>3654557
I was talking about nudoom though.

>>3654581
Yeah I just realized that. Never mind, then.

>>3654381

T H I C C

>>3654590
T H O C C

>>3654559
>Shub-Niggurath, mother of a thousand young ones.
>Allegory for a black ghetto woman having dozens of children.

He was an extreme bigot. No wonder if he tried to put hidden anti-black messages on his works.

>>3654598
Suddenly I like Lovecraft a lot more.

>>3654603
100x this

mfw the old ones are references to Jews

>>3654401
you mean like gay?

>>3654579
I get SW redux without buying a game. Put some effort

Why do HD mods blow so much dick?

>>3654613

the badges doesn't give you enough xp to reach 5000

>>3654614
looks like a monkeypig with slug eyes

>>3654379
The year of 2016 has brought nothing new to the city. What a tragedy.

>>3654624
what is this?

gmota is shit.
SHIT.

>>3654379
>>3654408
This is why it should be WIP Wednesday. Especially since that "Screenshot Saturday" picture does not at all specify that you're supposed to show something you're working on.

>>3654625
Something I've been working on for 2 years, it's the city map.

>>3654624
>>3654634

looks fucking nice

>>3654638
Thanks man, I haven't been working on it much, ain't got no motivation to do this.

>>3654643
I still believe in you senpai

>>3654632
this is only the second time this issue has happened, and screenshot saturday has gone on for a while, so

>>3654643
>>3654634

Fuckin' do it, mate.

>>3654610
no it's more like a joke heh of course I don't want that to happen

it'd be way too hot

What the fuck.

>>3654667
for you

>>3654076
Everything explodes in goldeneye, even the chairs and filing cabinets

>>3654695
huh? what am I looking at?

>>3654695
Kinda bummed there wasn't any magical zombies or cultist-type enemies in the game.

>>3654614
They tend to be made by people who aren't very good at art. Also because they overall look really out of place in an otherwise blocky game.

>>3654713
The Doom Bible. I thought it was interesting, turns out it's complete WTFness. There are different characters descriptions, and these.

>>3654695
>>3654713
>>3654724

It's basically proto-Rise of the Triad, down to the same characters

thanks, Tom Hall

Was this the most ambitious shooter in recent history?

>>3654729
No.

>>3654729
Yes.

>>3654729
Maybe.

>>3654729
9/10 game

>>3654729
>tfw no Prey 2 where we get to be a space bounty hunter in an alien cyberpunk hellhole city

Would any of you give doom a 10/10? The mechanics are great but the level design is quite SHIT desu

>>3654753
Which one? Neo-Doom is awesome.

>>3654759
talking about classic, I might just be spoiled by superior wads though

>>3654760
I like the map.

>>3654753
>>3654760
Doom is pretty 10/10 desu

>>3654752
don't worry anon, atleast you get a generic rushed mess with grey blobs for enemies and no relation to the original prey universe

>>3654769
But I don't want a shittier space knockoff of Bioshock Infinite

>>3654769
how do you go from this

>>3654774
to this

>>3654776
to this?

>>3654774
to this?

>>3654774
>tfw you'll never play the 1995 beta

>>3654784
>developing a game for more than 10 years
fokkin 'ell m8

why don't they make shooters like they used to?

>>3654780
HDoom.

>>3654805
doesn't make as much money

that's literally it

What emulators do you recommend for my laptop?


I have a HP Laptop


The specifications of my latop are


My laptop has windows 10 home single language


Processor: E1-2100 APU With Radeon (TM) HD Graphics 1.00 GHz


Memory Ram: 2.00 (1.47GB usable)

Type of operating system: 64-bit system and 64-bit processor


And I have 383 GB of 440 GB of space on my laptop

>>3654805
lack of testosterone

>>3654813
ZDoom can virtually run on any toaster

>>3654805
Because the newfangled ID devs stole my dentures!

>>3654810

Well fuck them! I'm gonna make my own shooter on GZDoom! With big guns and dual-wielding and lots of enemies!

>>3654813
>>3654815
This is pretty well all you need for anything outside of some maps/mods that are GZDoom required or absolutely need the original EXE.

You can also try Chocolate Doom or a Boom variant if you're curious, and also pick up Zandronum or ZDaemon for multiplayer (the latter will probably be faster).

>>3654821
and black jack and hookers

>>3654815
I do not like violent games


And i hate the game of doom


What do you recommend me?
>>3654825

Is there any modification of the game in ZDoom that has no violence, and where there is nothing inappropriate?

>>3654821
>>3654829

uhh

>>3654805
>Implying they don't

>>3654832
I can't believe duke nukem actually lived up to all the hype, unbelievable game, 10/10, would wait 20 years for again

>>3654829

I could probably code up a cardgame but a sex system would rely a lot more on graphical assets, which I have no ability to make.

>>3654831

Chex Quest.

Also, you're weird.

>>3654829
Actually, screw the black jack

>>3654831
there's Chex Quest

also Super 3D Noah's Ark

as non-violent as they come

>>3654834
I like how Dusk is shaping up, but it ain't anywhere near released yet.
Also
>Unity

>>3654831
Chex Quest 1-3

>>3654841
could be for his kids

>>3654831
>What do you recommend me?
Two things: Mega Man 8-Bit Deathmatch and Chex Quest. MM88BDM runs on Zandronum though and CQ can be too easy.

Chex Quest is pictured above, but MM8BDM is mega man. It goes as violent as an NES robot game can get.

>>3654842
That action's reserved for the hookers tho.

some kinda railgun TEXTURES wip

>>3654831
>I do not like violent games
recommend you to visit another general

>>3654848

Yeah, that's fair.

>>3654856
nah, he's got Chex Quest and Super 3D Noah's Ark

he'll be fine

>>3654805
They literally can't surpass the community

>>3654848
>there are other anons on this general right now that have children

My son prefers Minecraft to Doom and I feel like I've failed

>>3654849
Since possibility of kids: yeah online is possible, but it tends to be pretty tame in chat, worst thing I've ever seen is the random meme or bait.

Mods for it don't usually get violent or off-color; some drugs went into making Unholy I'm sure, but that's about it. They're all maps/gamemodes and classpacks of robot masters nowadays.

>>3654834
>"What kind of classic shooter do you want to take inspiration from, senpai?"
>"Just fuck my shit up"
Seriously, Dusk just looks messy because it's mixing too many sources of inspiration together, and not all of them mix well together. And while I get that the devs are probably making this game as a love letter to their favorite FPS games, I totally get that, it feels a bit much like they're just trying to rake in on nostalgia cash by saying "Look! We're just like this classic game you love! We have the same weapons and everything! In some cases, almost literally!"
Just fuck my shit up and make the MC spit witty/macho one-liners and we'll basically have covered all the bases.

>>3654831
There aren't that many non-violent oldschool FPS games that are actually good.
There's Chex Quest and Super Noah's Ark 3D, which are family-friendly reskins of Doom and Wolfenstein respectively.
Then there's Bad Toys 3D, which I never played, but I think it's a Wolf 3D clone.
There's also H.U.R.L, which looks really cute, but it's ruined by the awful controls.

>>3654805
people grew up from bullshit like guns in the exact middle of the screen

>>3654831
I just remembered: There's Nerf Blast Arena that runs on the UT99 engine (and amazingly has a sizable amount of fan content if you look). It's even less violent than Chex Quest in that instead of teleporting away the "death" animations are just giving up.

>>3654876
>Nerf Blast Arena
*Nerf Arena Blast

Whoops.

>>3654868
What does /doom general/ think about Dusk level design?

>>3654868
it was partly a joke, I think dusk looks pretty bad so far too tb.h

>>3654831
>>3654870
Isn't there also Shadow of the Wool Ball? That's pretty non-violent/kid friendly from what I've seen.

>>3654874
b-but I like guns in the middle of the screen

>>3654885
Oh, yeah. That's a pretty good one too.

>>3654881
You meant to say Dusk's lack of level design, right? This doesn't look very good desu, much too linear with a lack of interconnection, but it's better than what they showed until now.

>>3654696
he's a big demon

>I don't like linear shooters
HUH? oy vey wander around this level aimlessly until you find the key somewhere, top quality gameplay

Now there's Complex Heretic too.

>>3654897
this

non-linear is good for RPG's imo, but for shooters it just werks

what makes stellar though is interesting, unique, and creative level design

but nonetheless linear to an extent

>>3654779
>FRENCH/CANADIAN DEVS

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TUrezmW1EPI

>>3654905

possibly the only time ever that heretic.wad will be seen on doomseeker

>>3654887
i don't know why, it's so unrealistic it's not funny

>>3654908
nah I've seen it before.

>>3654910
I've seen it too. It was 5 years ago.

>>3654909
I don't think it's that unrealistic, since I doubt doomguy literally holds it right in the middle, its's just that the camera angle is just different

>>3654897
You can do non-linear/interconnected layouts in a shooter without having the player wander your level aimlessly. It requires talent, iterations and lots of playtesting. Quake's E1M5 is a good example of a non-linear level. You can choose several paths and obtain the two keys in whichever order you desire. A perfect example of interconnection would be E3M5, still from Quake, with the layout looping on itself several times while never feeling confusing.

That said Hexen is NOT how you make non-linear and interconnected maps. Level design in this game is total crap and drags it all down.

>>3654874
Centered guns are fine for games like Doom.

>>3654909
Not particularly. Holding the guns at the side is really less realistic (unless you have ADS)

>>3654881
Can't say much from just one image, I'd assume this is an early level or something. Not like Doom doesn't have short and linear maps itself, but I would hope that they branch out in their level designs and styling since they're taking inspiration from games like Quake and Heretic as well. Only time will tell.
Even still, the game doesn't look that appealing to me. It's left a bad first impression.

>>3654921
>"E2M2 is one of the biggest levels so far"

Not an early level, no.

>>3654921
Pic is E2M2. Dev tell Dusk is literally his first atempt at level design

>>3654925
>"E2M2 is one of the biggest levels so far"
Oh...
Oh...
This isn't looking too good...

>>3654929
And it really shows. Everything looks like babby's first map. It's awfully blocky with very simple geometry and barely any detail, rooms are one-dimensional, flat as fuck and textures are hideous. Even Sandy Petersen's Quake maps which were rather ugly in comparison to the others never looked this bad.

>>3654831
Ghostbusters Doom
Batman Doom..

Mayhem Mansion which is pretty much a port of 'Exploding Lips'

>>3654929
He should just hire some mappers from the Quake and Doom communities

>>3654925
>>3654929
>>3654930
>>3654934
well, considering the game works on an episodic format, maybe they're striking for smaller, bite-sized maps in the vein of doom 1?

I don't hold the tiniest grain of hope for this shit in the least but maybe they'll pull out something that'll be sure to surprise their audience.

>>3654934
why does everyone shit on Sandy so much

I think he was pretty ok at mapping

>>3654940
Me too, I love his maps actually, they're crazy as fuck and really fun but they do look rather ugly.

>>3654939
Dunno, seeing as the game is full 3D and heavily borrowing from Quake (more than any other game, looks like) it would make sense it should try to at least look as good as Quake.

>>3654940
Sandy has a mixed bag of great maps, plain average maps, and downright awful maps. He does get more shit than he should since I'm sure most people only know him for the awful maps like Downtown and The Chasm, but I do think Doom 1/2 would have benefited a lot from having Romero work on more maps instead of living like a rockstar. I would love to see an episode 3 made purely by Romero.

>>3654938
>hire some mappers from the Quake and Doom communities

I would pay some money for this, desu

>>3654949
>>3654938
I'm actually surprised they don't just do that.

It worked well for Sega and Taxman.

>>3654890
I want to play that mod

>>3654948
E4 had some of the best Romero's levels. I don't understand why people hates E4

>>3654949
>>3654952
>It worked well for Sega and Taxman.
I was just thinking of that; a "love letter" FPS game made by some of the amazing mappers from the Doom and Quake community. It'd be kinda like Team TNT back in the day. I think it'd be pretty cool though, I'd be down for something like that.

>>3654905
Does it have stuff from Trailblazer?

>>3654961
>E4 had some of the best Romero's levels
>Against Thee Wickedly
>Mfw
While I do love Perfect Hatred for how fun it was to UV-Max pistol start, Against Thee Wickedly is kinda aggravating to play because of that lava pit and central lift/teleporter. It's a good map, but damn it can be annoying at times.

>>3654967
Literally Bombshell, though. But yes, I'm also surprised this didn't happen yet

>>3654969
>>3654905
>>3654908
It's really weird, all enemies have a set weakness to a specific weapon depending on their type, poison enemy variants are weak to gauntlets of necromancer, stone enemies are weak to elven wand, etc.

weapons have an alt fire too and apparently it's still in alpha if the filename is any indication.

>>3654974
E4 fucking sucks on your first playthrough (Perfect Hatred and Against Thee Wickedly especially)

But if you know what you're doing, it can be p fun

but goddamn was it frustrating

>>3653693
I'm not surprised, they did have Sonic Mayhem on the keyboard.

>>3654981
That weakness system reminds me of HXRTC.

>>3654909
No, it actually makes sense. To aim, you use the iron sight.

Why is nu-doom sountrack tranny djent?

>>3655007
Mick+SM easily makes up for it.

>>3655007
I believe Mick said in an interview that he wanted to go full on metal, but then looked up your tumblr account and chose to make it djent particularly to piss you off

>>3655016
You robbed a sperm bank because you're a cum guzzling fag

>>3655020
haven't heard that one before

audible kek

>>3655020
and its effects haven't worn off I see

>>3655020
I robbed a sperm bank because I didn't want your wife sneaking up on you with child care support, homie.

>>3654915
Obligatory

>>3655028
oh shit

>>3654839
"When it's done", said Broussard

>>3655028
moderately savage all the while retaining the autism.

>>3655028
I don't get it

>>3654630
You will eat that shit and you will like it!

>>3655104

>Duke Nukem in Bulletstorm.xvid

>>3654909

thanks god is not used anymore

>>3654834

this game will be bad

>>3654834
It literally looks like a flash fps from mid 2000s

>>3655120
nah

>>3655120
I actually doubt it

I mean yeah it might be shit in some aspects but it doesn't really bring it all down at once, gameplay more b gud

>>3654379
wip map

>>3654097

I don't know what to do here

updated with new content since last time this was posted in a general.
http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=37&t=54369

>>3655202
prepare to have your shit stolen by sgt mark

>>3655206

don't worry, he's used to it

>>3655207 (me)

ah shit, I thought this was MetaDoom, whoops!

>>3654097
Fun enough. A bit linear though. Also I broke it by throwing a switch twice, I think.

>>3655237
It doesn't look all washed out on my screen.

>>3653662
The SAW from Opposing Force is incredibly satisfying to fire, and just demolishes Shock Troopers. Even has the little belt pieces coming off the ejected casings, which I've never seen in any other game ever.

The only thing it needed was a proper 100-round belt.

>>3655242

He's playing with the gamma jacked up, for whatever reason.

>>3655246
I should give Opposing Force another playthrough. I do recall the ending parts being rather rough but otherwise I guess it was alright.

>>3655246
>The only thing it needed was a proper 100-round belt.
This. Who the fuck links just 50 rounds for a belt on a squad automatic weapon? How will you suppress with that?

100 is a minimum, 200 makes more sense. It's not like you couldn't link some 50rd belts

>>3655247
both posts were me. what I meant was that it doesn't look washed out in-game... Just fucked up when typing out a coherent thought.

>>3655242
He's from Doomworld.

>>3655249
I tried running a coop server via svencoop recently, and it kept crashing on of3a2 for some reason...

>>3655249
The ending parts aren't too bad if you just make very liberal use of the SAW, Sniper Rifle, and Displacer.

>>3655253
When the mod became standalone I remember trying to run the build tool for OpFor and Blue Shift maps, but never got it working.

These visuals are good, and the action is nice, monsters are plentiful but not a chore and crowded like hardcore slaughter.

I can't believe someone killed this guy.

>>3655258
You need to install opfor and bs, then run them, then run the tool.

And you can't run the tool, then run the games, then run the tool again or it gets all shit up.

Blue shift and HL run just fine (right now actually) but opfor doesn't want to take for some reason. You can play through a lot of it, and then it stops working for whatever reason. Sucks. Can't find any info online either.

>>3655264
Didn't SC have it's own version of Opposing Force?

>>3655247

the map is dark as fuck, but he should have cranked up the ambient level and not the gamma

>>3655269
The standalone uses your steam copy (because they can't give away everything, I guess) and uses a tool to convert the files to be sven coop compatible.

>>3654729
Verdun. Attempting to capture WW1 infantry only gameplay in a realistic way, and still make it fun. That aint easy.