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So why were they originally called Chaos Emeralds anyway? It makes them sound like very evil relics. It's the only case I can think of where the party-neutral MacGuffin wasn't named something ambiguous or benevolent sounding. Like, in Ninja Gaiden II, the eponymous Dark Sword of Chaos is not a good thing the hero can use to his own ends. It's a bad sword. It's not only dark, but it's also of chaos.

>> No.363928

Why not?
Sonic was totally cool and radical, do you think "power gems" or some shit was good enough for the fastest thing on two legs?

>> No.363940

>First game
>they're called Chaos Emeralds
>bust your ass to get them all
>finally do for the super best ending
>they make flowers appear

>> No.363943

>>363897
This bugged me too, honestly.

>> No.363968

>>363928
>do you think "power gems" or some shit was good enough for the fastest thing on two legs?
Yes.

>> No.364008

Why do people associate chaos with evil?

Nature is chaos

>> No.364048

>>364008
It was canon that they were actually being used for evil. Then the master emerald happened.

>> No.364064

>>364008
Harmony is preferable to chaos. Would you not agree?

>> No.364067

Maybe they used the word because it sounded cool without really knowing what it meant. Like the scrapped Genocide City Zone from Sonic 2.

>> No.364072

>>364008

Chaos is bad. Order is good.

This is fact.

>> No.364084

>>364067
The 90s was full of shit for no reason.

Example: Shoulder Pads

>> No.364113

>>364072

No, no it is not.

They're two different spectrums

Good and Bad are like, left and right.

Order and Chaos are like up and down.

You can be Chaotic Good.

You can be Lawful Evil.

They are not mutually inclusive.

>> No.364115

It's confusing as fuck playing Sonic Generations

Like, are the Chaos Emeralds the same thing as that Chaos boss the same thing as that Omachaos thing I turned off as soon as I could access the options menu?

>> No.364119

>>364072

>Robin Hood was the bad guy
>Sheriff of Nottingham was right all along

Nah.

>> No.364141

>>363928
Archie comics Sonic used power gems.

http://archiesonic.wikia.com/wiki/Power_Gem

And it was totally lame and everybody felt violated afterwards for having experienced it.

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364159

And why is Chaos himself just a mass of water? Seriously, a water elemental? That's all you got?

>> No.364171

>>364159
It's not water, it's hair gel.

>> No.364176

real question

why does your png have jpg artifacts? that shit is seriously bugging me

>> No.364180

>>363940

>First game
>battle fierce robots
>created by an evil maniacal genius
>whose intents are to enslave a whole planet
>kill them
>little baby animals pop out sugoi~

>> No.364186

>>364176
Yo mama.

>> No.364194

>>364180

The robots were being powered by the animal's life force.

Kinda like the Matrix.

>> No.364204

>>364194

Nah, you're wrong.

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>>364180

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>>364215

>> No.364215

>>364194
>tiny baby animals pop out and bounce away
>not full size animals which would be actually useful
>they aren't bloody and abused from being brainwashed and forced into robot bodies
>sugoi~

>> No.364228

>>363897

>512x510
>JPG resaved as PNG
>330KB

OP that image could be like 20KB
you're upsetting me

>> No.364249

>>364159

Water is the most chaotic element of all, it grants life but excess of it destroys it, it can change from a calm tide to a vicious storm, it changes and molds the very earth itself

>> No.364256

>>364064

No, harmony is lethargic, it's sameness. Chaos is motion, evolution.

>> No.364270

>>364249

you should write for children's cartoons

>> No.364303

>>364072

FUCKING FASCIST CUNT.

>> No.364330

>>364215

Sonic and Tails are full-sized animals and easily defeat said robots. There's a reason Robotnik has them collect baby animals; his robots are that shitty.

As for the abused and bleeding part, I dunno.

>> No.364369

>>364330

What's the deal with Sonic's legs anyway? They should be ripped. Also, are those socks? How come they don't fit his legs? What is going on. Why does he wear pointed shoes when he has normal human feet? Wouldn't that hurt? There's not even arch support. He would ruin his own body.

>> No.364373

>>364369
Because kawaii desu yaoibait.

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364385

>>364270

Finally someone appreciates my talents

>> No.364392

>>364369
>What's the deal with Sonic's legs anyway? They should be ripped.
Fuck off, America.

Fuck off.

>> No.364402

>>364392

Wut

>> No.364413

>>364402
I would bet anything you're american.

Anything.

>> No.364426

>>364413

I'm not but ok

>> No.364443

Just stopping by to say that the Chaos Emeralds are not a MacGuffin. A MacGuffin serves NO PURPOSE other than a plot point. Rarely do you even visually see a MacGuffin. It's just there to serve as a goal.

The Chaos Emeralds were bonuses in the original, and plot points in the newer games that had purpose (an energy source).

Perfect example of a MacGuffin, whatever was in the briefcase in Pulp Fiction. It's a film term and rarely applies to video games as most things in video games have an effect on gameplay. The only thing I can really even start to say is a MacGuffin in games is Link's Triforce of Courage, but his goal is never to just get the triforce.

Sage for off topic.

>> No.364463

>>364443
Sonic 3 & Knuckles.

That is all.

>> No.364518

>>364330
In the archie comics Eggman can power an entire metropolitan city by shoving furries into these underground ball things. Said balls drain the life of the furries, but they don't come out looking like shit.

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364719

I'm pretty sure the general idea is that the emeralds are part of Sonic's world, and that they hold everything together and keep chaotic energy in check maintain balance. Unleashed kinda points to that, with the emeralds restoring the planet back to it's original form and eradicating the evil forces Eggman let loose.

Or, if you like Sonic The Comic's explanation, they simply absorb evil/chaotic energy. Since chaos is bountiful in the universe, they're fucking loaded with energy, which is why the likes of Eggman wants them so badly.

Then of course there's Chaos Control, which is just harnessing the energy of the emeralds and bending it to the user's will. And the Master Emerald which is just a bigass chaos emerald that can veto the power of the emeralds if need be, and if in the right hands.

Bearing this in mind, to answer your question, they're all very closely related to chaos, so why not dub them after that fact? It also could have been named that by the echidnas after the whole Chaos debacle, perhaps as a warning to future civilizations to, you know, not fuck with them like they did.

tl;dr

They're called chaos emeralds because dealing with them is exactly what you get: chaos.

>> No.364883

>>364719
>every plot, no matter what, involves Chaos Emeralds and all that shit's going on due to them
>they are actually the source of all the bad stuff and warp reality to attract, well, chaos
maybe they even have some sort of consciousness
they need to be destroyed

>> No.364928

>>364883
>Master Emerald gets crushed into tiny fragments
>enter Knuckles
>MUH EMERAWS
>proceeds to collect said fragments to rebuild Master Emerald

>> No.365072

>>364159
That's because they wanted something showcasing the new hardware capabilities, namely transparency, something the saturn missed.

>> No.365089

>>364928
What the fuck happened to the Master Emerald

Like after SA2 Knuckles just seemed to forget about it and started hanging around with Sanic and co. down on the ground

WHO THE FUCK IS GUARDING THE MASTER EMERALD

>> No.365094

>>365089
eggman

>> No.365817

>>365089
Why does the Master EMEROWD even need guarding?

>> No.365942

>>365817
also eggman