/vr/ - Retro Games

Has [insert game here] aged well?

>>3621758
>p l a y i n g 5 0 h z e u r o t r a sh

>>3621758
Can't you just play the Japanese version?

>>3621774
This. Japanese version is the way to go.

Do I have to worry about toxic substances like lead paint on bootlegs?

>>3621758

>>3621782
Only if you eat them

>>3621768
>>3621804
Not every PAL game run slower. Some have good conversions. IIRC Sonic 2 plays at the intended speed but I could be mixing up with another one.

Why not just play the Taxman port? It has both music tracks so you can listen to Sonic Boom then change to Japanese.

The Japanese version is what you want. Best music AND 60Hz.

>>3621920
No lyrics for Toot Toot Sonic Warrior makes it inferior.

>questions that don't deserve their own thread
>makes a thread specifically for it

when cleaning pins with alcohol, should I use 99% only or can I use 70% as well? And is a Qtip the best cleaner to use?

Can a DSI XL play GBA games?

Can a 3DS play DS games? And do those DS games utilize the extra screen space on the new 3DS?

>>3622563
None of the DSi models play GBA carts

All 3ds models play DS carts with real hardware. There is no stretch option. You either play at the same aspect ratio vertically stretched to fit, or at pixel perfect res which shrinks the image down a bit. I highly reccomend you play them on a 3dsxl/new3dsxl because it's twice the size of an old DS screen, thus it can fill the screen vertically perfectly witout distortion. DS games on the small 3ds look kinda icky and blurry.

>>3622596
*There is no horizontal stretch option
Here's a pic of what I'm describing. The mode on the left looks like dogshit on regular 3ds, but looks amazing on an XL.

>>3622596
>I highly reccomend you play them on a 3dsxl/new3dsxl because it's twice the size of an old DS screen, thus it can fill the screen vertically perfectly without distortion. DS games on the small 3ds look kinda icky and blurry.

Wait, which 3DS model is the small one? Can you give me the specific model that you recommend?

>>3621758
>is the european version of sonic CD slower than the north american one?
Yes. Because PAL has 50fps instead of 60. Rather than re-work all the logic and constants relating to running and jumping, etc, they just had the game run slower.

>>3621782

>>3622687
Either the original regular-ass Nintendo 3DS, the *New* Nintendo 3DS, and the 2DS have the smaller screens. Everything else is an XL.

>>3622687
And that anon is suggesting you play on an XL variety of some kind.

Is it okay to use 91% alcohol to clean pins or does it have to be 99%?

>>3622756
>>3622754
Oh, I thought the New 3DS had the same screen size as the XL's. It's all confusing lol. They've made way too many versions of this thing.

>>3621920

No timer-reset mechanic.

>>3623030
yes it's okay

>>3621758
The PAL version has different music?

OP here. I can't find the JP rom anywhere, so I just downloaded the JP soundtrack. I heard you can somehow insert it into the US version. How do you do that?

>>3621768
funny story, emulation of PAL games is technically easier to get full speed because there are less frames to render.

>>3622461
I've used 70% for years, it works fine.

>>3622596
>>3622620

I don't understand, all 3DS models have the same screen resolution, just different sized screens. What's this you talk about with distortion on one model vs. another?

>>3623282
DS games were a different aspect ratio than 3DS, so when playing a DS game on the 3DS, you can maintain aspect ratio or stretch

>>3623148
PAL and JP have a different soundtrack, yeah. They made up a new one for the NA release because the style of music used in the original wasn't considered a popular choice for US players.

>>3623283
right, but the poster is suggesting that playing on a 3DSXL (old or new) is better than playing on a 2DS/3DS/N3DS, and I don't understand the argument that it looks better on the XL given that they are identical screens save for size. What's the basis for such a claim?

What's the best Genesis flash cart? I've been considering one, but there are like 4 different ones...

>>3622596
>>3622620
>>3622687

This is not retro and also some of you guys are wrong.

DS Phat and DS Lite are only DS that can take GBA carts. The DSi and DSi XL do not have the cart slot for a GBA. I think the processor is the same (just double clock speed) in the DSi, so maybe there is some way through homebrew I don't know about.

The 3DS can play GBA games natively if you have an ambassador system, or you hack it. Hacking it is a pain in the ass and i'm pretty sure they closed the security hole in newer firmwares. Check /vg/hbg .

Resolutions:
GBA resolution: 240 x 160
All DS models: Two screens at 256 x 192
All 3DS/2Ds models: Top: 400 x 240, Bottom 320x240

DS automatically windowboxes GBA games. It still looks good since the resolution is not too different.

3DS automatically does blurry stretching of DS games by default. Looks like ass. You can force a 1:1 pixel ratio by holding start or select when launching DS software. Crisp but small screen, sorta okay for the XL variants though.

That guy saying some shit about "twice the size" is turbowrong.

The choice of what NON RETRO REEEE nintendo handheld you want gets even more complicated when you consider the shitload of variants and various quality of LCD screens available. I generally like the AGS-101 for GBA and previous, the DS lite for emulating GB/GBC, the "New 3DS" non-XL for actual 3DS games, and the "New 3DS" XL for emulating 3rd and 4th gen.

>>3623285

Was that really the reason? The JP music is super funky and fun, and very "Sonic" like. I'd be very surprised if they thought American audiences wouldn't like it...

>>3623306
I believe so, though I won't pretend to be an expert on the subject. I just know that they changed the soundtrack for the US. Everything except the Past levels (those have their music encoded into the actual game files I believe) was changed. On the plus side, we got Sonic Boom out of this, so it wasn't all bad.

>>3623302
This is a good post, retro or not.

I will add to this that the most excellent Sega 3D Classics series come off as being a little hard to see properly on the non-XL systems, and prefer the large XL size screen for those games.

Also hacking got much easier in the last two months. Worth looking into if you have a 3DS (or especially if you have a New 3DS).

Now my quick question, can you use a GBA link cable for GB/GBC games if playing on a GBA? The connector won't fit in a GB/GBC, but it will fit in a GBA, and GBAs do play GB/GBC games.

>>3621758
No. Out of the 16-bit games only Sonic 1 was not speed adjusted for PAL. Ignore comments from Ameriburgers who've never played a PAL game in their life.

>>3623260
It's redbook CD audio, you just burn the tracks you want as audio.

You could probably do it with a multisession disc, burn the data track but do not fixate the disc, then burn the audio tracks as a seperate operation and fixate the disc.

>>3623335

Any other good retro ports on the DS that you'd recommend?

>>3623412
Even if it got a proper speed conversion, it is still possible that some things have different timings or act differently.
It's not as simple as "changing the overall speed of the game" like you would on an emulator, and some actions may not be possible to convert accurately depending on how they are timed to begin with.

So yes, MAYBE Sonic does "float longer in the air" in the PAL version like OP suggested.

>>3621758

Might as well just plop down 5 bucks for the steam version, it has both soundtracks plus has no speed problems at all

>>3623689
Is it a good port? or is it emulated?

>>3623689

this

>>3623694

it's running on a new engine, but has been meticulously recreated to have everything work just right and perfectly, seriously, you can't tell the difference. Also with that you can have HD res and all that, seriously get it it's only five bux and one of the best ports ever made.

Also the engine is the being used for Sonic Mania

>>3623094
Same resolution, not the same size. There's a *New* 3DS AND a *New* 3DS XL.

>>3622563
If you want to play GBA I just recommend you get an GBA/SP (but not the micro), it plays GBA, GBC, and GB. The DS doesn't play GB or GBC.

>>3623696

Only thing I hate about the steam version is that it doesn't have the level select cheat. I liked being able to start the level from any of the time periods

>>3623280
Can I put drops of 91% alcohol on my SNES female pins and then insert a cart it out?

>>3623280
How do you clean out your SNES female pins? Can I put a few drops of 91% alcohol in there and just swap a cart through there a few times?

>>3621774
>tfw US Sega CD but want to play JP Sonic CD
apparently SCDConv doesn't work, either

>>3623260
if you ever manage to successfully do this I would love a copy

>>3624420
I used to put alcohol on a toothbrush and brush the cart slot, but your method sounds good too. There's probably a 'best' method but I don't know of what it would be.

>>3624908
if you get an everdrive (certain models I think) then you can run other region BIOS, I think it's a bit finicky though.

>>3624350
The level select is there, you just have to unlock it now rather than using the old cheat method. iirc first you unlock the special stage time attack and then level select, they're in the main menu once unlocked.

>>3621920
id rather play the JP than the Taxman version. His engine isnt all that great.

>>3623290
>What's the basis for such a claim?
his personal preference.

The XL will make the DS games the exact same screen size as the DS/Lite

While the correct resolution on the smaller 3DS will make the screens smaller.

There is no distortion at all. The screens are smaller on the 3DS thats all.

>>3624908
Get the 920 prototype of Sonic CD. It has the original soundtrack (JP/EU) instead of the original one, it's US region, and otherwise does not have any differences from the final release of the game as it's the last prototype build.

I want to start buying japanese ps1and ps2 games. I have a pal ps2 and pal ps1 but would like to play them on my pc. I've got a blu ray drive would it be as simple or putting the disc in and running it or would I have to do stuff like burn it and making an iso?

Also the bluray drive is currently set to region 1 that wouldn't affect it reading the disc would it?

>>3625496
>I've got a blu ray drive would it be as simple or putting the disc in
Yes it would. Just tried this on my LG blu ray to make sure. Sorry for the shitty 3ds camera.

Is there any reason to get a Famicom Disc System? I just got a Famicom myself and was wondering should I take the chance to get a FDS. The problem is I have no idea of its exclusive games.